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ICE: How We Got Here (Part 1) · Stuff Mom Never Told You

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Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie and Samantha and welcome to STEF.
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Speaker 1: I've never told you a prediction of I heard to you.
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Speaker 2: And today we are going to do something unpleasant. Annie
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Speaker 2: and I hate that we have to do unpleasant things,
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Speaker 2: but I guess that's the nature of intersectional feminism, especially
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Speaker 2: when we're talking about intersectional feminism in the US today.
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Speaker 2: But we're actually going to talk about the not so
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Speaker 2: great history of ICE or the immigration and customs enforcement
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Speaker 2: in the US and also the Customs Border Patrol, so
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Speaker 2: they kind of go hand in hand in what we're
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Speaker 2: talking about today. And this is one of those topics
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Speaker 2: that affects us all, whether we are immigrants or not.
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Speaker 2: And again, as we are an intersectional podcast, we wanted
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Speaker 2: to address what is happening and how some are dealing
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Speaker 2: with the realities of today. So this is going to
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Speaker 2: be a multi part series, the type of thing.
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Speaker 1: I think it's just gonna be two partners.
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Speaker 2: We'll see, we'll see, because it is an ongoing thing.
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Speaker 2: And for today's portion, we are doing the historical context
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Speaker 2: of what is ICE and what is CBP and how
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Speaker 2: it came about today content warning, I think that can
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Speaker 2: be easily read into there's a lot of trauma in
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Speaker 2: this conversation. We're going to be talking about separation of families,
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Speaker 2: We're going to be talking about death unfortunately, we're going
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Speaker 2: to talk about rape and survivor later in these episodes.
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Speaker 1: So we're going to put that caveat here.
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Speaker 2: Just the fact that it is a relevant topic today
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Speaker 2: is traumatic in itself. We know that world issues are bad,
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Speaker 2: so yeah, traumatic and believe us we feel that pain.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: And also because it is ever changing, and because we
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Speaker 2: know things are coming out very rapidly with a lot
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Speaker 2: of information and misinformation and disinformation, we did want to
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Speaker 2: put a timestamp. We are recording on February sixth, twenty six,
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Speaker 2: and these episodes again will be split and actually are
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Speaker 2: going to be recorded separately as well, because you know,
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Speaker 2: I need we need breaks in between some of these subjects, y'all.
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Speaker 2: It's a lot, oh yeah, and there's and also to
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Speaker 2: the detriment, I have probably fifty tabs open.
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Speaker 1: Nightmares that yeah, that is a nightmare nightmares.
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Speaker 2: And also into sites that I don't want.
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Speaker 1: To be on. Yes, Oh my gosh, someone needs to
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Speaker 1: pay me conversation just for that. I don't get paid
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Speaker 1: enough for that. We don't get paid enough for that,
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Speaker 1: the trauma of research. I tried to I've brought that
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Speaker 1: point up at a meeting. What's believe you me?
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Speaker 2: Did they say we have a program for you. You can
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Speaker 2: get therapy a couple a couple times a year.
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Speaker 1: Honestly, they didn't take me seriously at all about the Lord,
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Speaker 1: of course they didn't. Well with all of that.
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Speaker 2: Yes, we are going to delve into the history and
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Speaker 2: kind of bring us up to date on how these
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Speaker 2: organizations came about and the history of protecting the borders,
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Speaker 2: as they would love to say. So when we talk
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Speaker 2: about ICE, we have to talk about the origins of
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Speaker 2: the beginnings. So in fact, Ice is young, a younger
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Speaker 2: than many of us, literally twenty three years old, so
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Speaker 2: super young. So again what we would call maybe barely
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Speaker 2: legal how we like to say, you know, legal to
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Speaker 2: drink in the US, that is barely an adult could
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Speaker 2: be a crime anyway, moving on, But the fear mongering
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Speaker 2: of invaders have been in place way before then. It
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Speaker 2: wasn't until the incident of September eleventh, nine to eleven
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Speaker 2: that we heighten the rhetoric. So in order for us
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Speaker 2: to keep update on this history, we have to talk
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Speaker 2: about the creation of US Customs and Border Control, which
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Speaker 2: has been around since the beginning of the colonization of
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Speaker 2: the United States. So I will say we did not
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Speaker 2: delve into what it looked like for the Native Indigenous
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Speaker 2: people here, which we've probably will come back to later on.
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Speaker 2: But this started getting longer and longer and longer because
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Speaker 2: talking about the old school customs and borders, patrol and
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Speaker 2: protection to ice and DHS today really got long. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: because September eleventh, we know, was a really stark moment
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Speaker 2: in our history, and there's a lot of things that
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Speaker 2: we have to talk about with that, but we don't
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Speaker 2: want to ignore the fact that with that beginning, Yes,
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Speaker 2: it definitely affected the Indigenous people, and it disregarded them
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Speaker 2: as the first people's obviously, and whether or not they
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Speaker 2: deserve protection or they deserved a voice to begin with,
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Speaker 2: but that's again another episode we'll have to come back to.
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Speaker 2: So let's talk about US Customs and Border Control. So
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Speaker 2: they began in seventeen eighty nine, but were actually known
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Speaker 2: as the US State's Custom Service and according to the
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Speaker 2: DHS site, when I say DHS Department of Homelands Security
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Speaker 2: site from twenty sixteen. This was established in July of
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Speaker 2: seventeen eighty nine by President George Washington and was headed
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Speaker 2: by the first Collectors of Customs or now known as commissioners.
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Speaker 2: But I think the Collectors of Customs is a more
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Speaker 2: fitting title, and I kind of wish they kept that
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Speaker 2: because it's a better descriptor. Anyway, it was General Lincoln
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Speaker 2: and General Lamb who were the first people, and from
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Speaker 2: their portraits, they were well fed and accustomed to cushy life, y'all.
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Speaker 2: They were not uncomfortable in the least, and they seemed
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Speaker 2: pretty smug about it and the portraits, if I have
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Speaker 2: to say so myself, maybe I'm looking a little too
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Speaker 2: into it. But if y'all want to go look at
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Speaker 2: that site, you should, because it was like an anniversary of.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Anyway, So from the DHS site, they write, the US
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Speaker 2: custom Service holds an important place in our nation's history.
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Speaker 2: For its first one hundred years, the service was the
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Speaker 2: primary source of funds for the growing US government. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: it was all about that money. They were trying to
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Speaker 2: get that money. So from Wikipedia, because the history wasn't
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Speaker 2: so easy to find, y'all. Weirdly, whatever, they write that
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Speaker 2: due to the cost of the American Revolutionary War, Washington
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Speaker 2: needed to get money, and so with the help of
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Speaker 2: the first US Congress, they passed the Tariff Act on
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Speaker 2: July fourth, seventeen eighty nine, which tax the hell out
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Speaker 2: of important goods, and with that they soon established the
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Speaker 2: US Customs Service. So that was the beginning. They just
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Speaker 2: needed that money, and this is what they're going to do.
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Speaker 2: The imports, the teriffs, which.
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Speaker 1: We've heard a lot about recently.
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Speaker 2: And for over one hundred years it was the primary
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Speaker 2: funds for the entire government, and it continued to grow,
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Speaker 2: purchasing land, you know, all the alien purchase acts if
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Speaker 2: you remember, you remember, and soon they became the law
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Speaker 2: enforcement officers. In the nineteenth and twentieth centuries. Again from
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Speaker 2: that Wikipedia site, they said Customs special Agents investigated smuggling,
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Speaker 2: an other biolations of customs, narcotics, and revenue laws. Custom
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Speaker 2: inspectors were uniformed officers at airports, seaports, and land border
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Speaker 2: ports of entry who inspected people and vehicles entering the
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Speaker 2: US for contraband and dutiable merchandise. Customs patrol officers conducted
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Speaker 2: uniformed and plane closed patrol. Other borders on land, see
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Speaker 2: and air to deter smuggling and apprehended smugglers. So Lamb
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Speaker 2: and Lincoln were both posted at the Canadian border. One
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Speaker 2: was posted at the New York port and the other
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Speaker 2: one was I believe in the Florida ports, so that
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Speaker 2: they had their areas to make sure they were getting
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Speaker 2: those monies, because you know, we needed those money so
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Speaker 2: we can buy and take land from people.
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Speaker 1: Why not?
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Speaker 2: So how did the Department of Homeland Security begin? We're
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Speaker 2: going to use an article from the National Academies of Science, Engineering,
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Speaker 2: and Medicine that's titled Terrorism Reducing Vulnerabilities and Improving Responses,
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Speaker 2: which was a US Russian ROOS proceedings. So it kind
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Speaker 2: of tells you the history of what is happening. And
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Speaker 2: this one is a little bit dated, like two thousand
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Speaker 2: and four, but I wanted us to look at the
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Speaker 2: historical response of the Department. And again, like I said,
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Speaker 2: it continues with some of the follow ups and will
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Speaker 2: come back with some of the changes. But a lot
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Speaker 2: of these articles are going to be a little older
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Speaker 2: because when September eleventh happened, it was in two thousand
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Speaker 2: and one, and a lot of responses came from that.
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Speaker 2: So this article is from two thousand and four, and yeah,
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Speaker 2: we're going to read a little bit from them.
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Speaker 1: Yes, so from their chapter on the DHS. Here's what
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Speaker 1: they write. Quote. In the early nineteen nineties, Americans increasingly
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Speaker 1: became concerned about terrorism on our soil. This concern was
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Speaker 1: fueled by the World Trade Center bombing in nineteen ninety three,
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Speaker 1: the Oklahoma City bombing, and the discovery of a bomb
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Speaker 1: at the Atlanta Olympics in nineteen ninety four. Moreover, it
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Speaker 1: became increasingly evident to the American public that terrorism had
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Speaker 1: a growing, sophisticated and global reach, a perception fueled by
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Speaker 1: overseas events such as the bombings in nineteen ninety eight
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Speaker 1: of the US embassies in Kenya and Tanzania and subsequent
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Speaker 1: bombing that power was devolving from the nation states to
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Speaker 1: the individual and to transnational or sub national groups and organizations,
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Speaker 1: That individuals and disaffected groups were seeking and might gain
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Speaker 1: access to weapons of mass destruction, and that globalization, free trade,
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Speaker 1: and the expansion of democratic regimes provided a relatively unregulated
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Speaker 1: environment for terrorists and criminal groups worldwide.
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Speaker 2: Right, So, I think those explanations is a good beginning again,
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Speaker 2: we also don't really mention, even though this is about
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Speaker 2: the US Russian proceedings, we don't mention the Cold War necessarily,
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Speaker 2: but it does get mentioned later on, and I think
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Speaker 2: we might bring it back up that the US as
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Speaker 2: seen as a superpower because they were able to help
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Speaker 2: end the Cold War supposedly, as well as bring about
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Speaker 2: peace by putting in our own armies into different countries.
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Speaker 2: So there's this level of conversation about who is targeting whom,
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Speaker 2: and because the US has become seen as a big power,
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Speaker 2: they think that people are after the US. To be fair, also,
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Speaker 2: the US has done a lot in historical contexts to
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Speaker 2: other countries that they want to retaliate for. So not
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Speaker 2: saying any of these tragedies are warranted, but that there's
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Speaker 2: a cause and effect here that we don't always talk about. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: so there's been talks of upgrading defenses and trying to
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Speaker 2: counter outside threats for a long time. That may have
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Speaker 2: been encouraged by the US with this response as the
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Speaker 2: then perceived idea of being a superpower, and it's been
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Speaker 2: here for a while. I also want to talk about
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Speaker 2: the fact that a couple of these bombings were domestic terror,
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Speaker 2: so they weren't even from outside. The people who perpetrated
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Speaker 2: one of them was named McVeigh. I was very ashamed
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Speaker 2: of that. I had to fight that. Yeah, I had
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Speaker 2: to hide that.
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Speaker 1: I wouldn't. I went to Oklahoma, y'all.
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Speaker 2: I think a few years later, like not a decade later,
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Speaker 2: a few years later, and I was like, that is
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Speaker 2: not we don't spell it's the same. It's not the same.
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Speaker 2: But it was like in response as a white power dude.
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Speaker 2: So just leaving that there, you know. Then the attack
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Speaker 2: on September eleventh of two thousand and one happened, and
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Speaker 2: for those who may have forgotten it, which the theme
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Speaker 2: is never forgot, but you know, this has been a minute,
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Speaker 2: here's a quick rundown. On that day, four commercial passenger
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Speaker 2: planes were hijacked by Islamic extremists al Qaeda and attacked
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Speaker 2: several targets in the US, the World Trade Center in
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Speaker 2: New York City, the Pentagon in Arlington, Virginia, and then
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Speaker 2: another plane that crashed near Shanksville, Pennsylvania, that had been intercepted. Essentially,
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Speaker 2: people on the plane prevented it from its goal, and
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Speaker 2: we held those people as heroes. This tragically killed around
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Speaker 2: three thousand people in these attacks. The current president at
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Speaker 2: the time, George W. Bush, made a speech declaring war
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Speaker 2: on terror and soon after created the DHS, or Department
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Speaker 2: of Homeland Securities. According to some reports, the idea of
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Speaker 2: the DHS was a brainchild of VP Cheney. Yeah, there's
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Speaker 2: a lot of lore and legacy behind these two.
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Speaker 1: Old w Oh. Yeah, I don't know.
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Speaker 2: I just want to put that out there again about
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Speaker 2: how Cheney shot a man and had the dude the victim,
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Speaker 2: actually apologized to him.
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Speaker 1: That still threw me off. Funnily enough, recently, on my
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Speaker 1: food podcast Saver, we did an episode on Quail and
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Speaker 1: I was like, oh, yeah, right. I was like, I
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Speaker 1: wasn't expecting to reread about this today and we're talking
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Speaker 1: about it again. I know, Wow, we are in sync.
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Speaker 1: That's true. Guess it's true.
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Speaker 2: But yeah, Like, this dude, from what we understand, did
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Speaker 2: have a lot of influence in this administration and this
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Speaker 2: was his brainchild. So with the shock and trauma of
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Speaker 2: the attacks, the opportunity to push the new department was perfect,
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Speaker 2: and it was done very quickly. A recently published paper
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Speaker 2: from Jason A. Thomas from Binghamton University talks a bit
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Speaker 2: about this his paper titled The Future Arrives on Flight
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Speaker 2: eleven nine to eleven The Crisis of Meaning and Disinformation
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Speaker 2: in the twenty first Century. And I'm gonna put the
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Speaker 2: caveat here, and I think I'm gonna repeat it again
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Speaker 2: at the end of what we talk about here. There
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Speaker 2: are tons of conspiracy theories behind what happened with the
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Speaker 2: September eleventh attack.
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Speaker 1: Many of them are misinformed or disinformation.
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Speaker 2: Many of them have eyebrows people like eh. But also
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Speaker 2: many of them are not too far off in that
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Speaker 2: politicians use it to their advantage. So I think we
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Speaker 2: want to It's hard to navigate through some of this,
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Speaker 2: especially today, because either it was completely dismissed as again
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Speaker 2: conspiracy and that people are not thinking right, or oh,
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Speaker 2: it is so far ingrained that this is all about
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Speaker 2: protection that has also become misinformation. The amount of people
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Speaker 2: I can't remember the statistics, but I remember the rise
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Speaker 2: of those who enlisted after nine to eleven because of
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Speaker 2: this conversation of like protecting the country but also vengeance.
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Speaker 1: So we're just going to put that there.
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Speaker 2: But back to this quote, he writes, in the immediate
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Speaker 2: aftermath was a declaration of war which authorized the US
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Speaker 2: to engage in military action against all who were deemed
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Speaker 2: to have quote, planned, authorized, committed, or aided the terrorist
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Speaker 2: attacks that occurred on September eleventh, two thousand and one,
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Speaker 2: or harbored such organizations or persons. This so called war
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Speaker 2: on terror was accompanied by a restructuring of the US
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Speaker 2: national security infrastructure, which resulted in national defense spending increasing
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Speaker 2: more than fifty percent, from three hundred and fifty four
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Speaker 2: billion to about five hundred and forty seven billion dollars.
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Speaker 1: And it continues. Most notable among the changes was the
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Speaker 1: creation of the Department of Homeland Security, an idea that
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Speaker 1: was proposed by Vice President Cheney as soon as three
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Speaker 1: days following the attacks. The breadth of the response the
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Speaker 1: US government to this occurrence establishes nine to eleven as
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Speaker 1: a geopolitical shock event of significant proportions. On top of
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Speaker 1: catalyzing a war and restructuring of the US's national security apparatus.
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Speaker 1: The significance of the attacks is reflected and the epistemic
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Speaker 1: effects on the US that have emerged since. Geopolitical shock
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Speaker 1: events cause rapid shifts through the political status quo through
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Speaker 1: their ability to introduce a novel opportunity for discourse, and
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Speaker 1: prompt the construction of new narratives.
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Speaker 2: So Thomas's writing brings into question the usage and harms
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Speaker 2: of misinformation with the help of the nine to eleven attacks.
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Speaker 2: They talk specifically about the harm of the nine to
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Speaker 2: eleven truthers. I do remember this term. Do you remember
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Speaker 2: that term nine eleven truthers?
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Speaker 1: I don't remember the term, but I know what you're
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Speaker 1: talking about. Yeah, they add a whole page to the
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Speaker 1: man dedicated page. Yeah, which, if you were alive.
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Speaker 2: When I was alive with the occurds, you probably have
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Speaker 2: heard of these theories. Again, we kind of talked about
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Speaker 2: it earlier, whether it was the government who arranged for
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Speaker 2: this to happen, or that the government knew it was
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Speaker 2: going to happen and allowed it to or in the
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Speaker 2: reddick of the government calling specific countries the nexus of evil.
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Speaker 1: I remember watching this speech. Did you watch this speech,
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Speaker 1: George Bush? George w I'm sure I probably heard it. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: Like I probably heard like clips from it. I was
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Speaker 1: very big into the Daily Show at that at that time,
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Speaker 1: so I probably saw it part of it.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, but yeah, I remember this pitch calling like countries.
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Speaker 2: The nexus of evil North Korea was but it have
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Speaker 2: been there. I was like, Okay, that's interesting. And the
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Speaker 2: usage of the term of a war on terror, which
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Speaker 2: I remember when I first heard this because I was
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Speaker 2: freshly in college, I had taken a break. I was
16:46
Speaker 2: in a different state when everything went down hearing that,
16:51
Speaker 2: because we were all scared, and I was very much
16:53
Speaker 2: of my religious moments. I was like real religious at
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Speaker 2: this point, and so I was praying, scared. All the
17:00
Speaker 2: cell phone usage went down the day of the attack.
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Speaker 2: You could not get hardly get a hold of anybody
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Speaker 2: because everybody was freaking out trying to get to each
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Speaker 2: other the first cell phone.
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Speaker 1: We've talked about that before.
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Speaker 2: And people knew that Atlanta was going to be the
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Speaker 2: next target because the CDC was there and that could
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Speaker 2: cause like massive biohazard.
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Speaker 1: Like there was a whole lot of things happening.
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Speaker 2: But the minute he like declared war on an area,
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Speaker 2: which didn't make sense, everybody was like, wait, Iraq, Yeah,
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Speaker 2: I don't why are we attacking Iraq?
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Speaker 1: I thought he was, and I forget what.
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Speaker 2: And then saying it's a war on terror, which at
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Speaker 2: the same time we were having the war on drugs
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Speaker 2: and all of these euphemisms for the evil that you're like,
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Speaker 2: what are we targeting? Then?
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Speaker 1: Who who are we targeting?
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Speaker 2: So they definitely were using jargon in order to bring
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Speaker 2: in morale for and support in this in this moment. Again,
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Speaker 2: like I said, it kind of worked because again the
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Speaker 2: amount of people who enlisted and went into the military
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Speaker 2: after that was pretty astounding. They turned this from like
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Speaker 2: being protection into being like revenge and vengeance and to
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Speaker 2: attack whole countries and even innocent bystanders, again saying if
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Speaker 2: you're even associated with it, if you've been around, if
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Speaker 2: the people are there, that they became targets as well.
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Speaker 1: For the group of al Qaida.
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Speaker 2: It was a horrifying moment seeing what was happening and
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Speaker 2: trying to figure out how this was actually protecting the country.
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Speaker 2: And again, my conservative self at that time still questioned
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Speaker 2: it too, going wait what why?
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Speaker 1: Literally I was like I don't.
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Speaker 2: And then I got really upset, and I think I
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Speaker 2: remember crying that my older brother was going to be enlisted.
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Speaker 2: I did.
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna just remember that moment because I was.
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Speaker 2: Like, they're all going to war. M h.
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Speaker 1: That was a big moment.
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Speaker 2: Was we touched a lot of misinformation being used as
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Speaker 2: a political attack on the show, like you can see
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Speaker 2: many of probably all the episodes with bridget Yeah, we're
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Speaker 2: talking about all of that. And here Thomas specifically talks
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Speaker 2: about the origins of some of the usage of misinformation
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Speaker 2: which has led us to today again DHS. He writes, quote,
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Speaker 2: the crisis and book cases have opened the door for
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Speaker 2: misinformation as a viable political strategy due to the loss
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Speaker 2: of a guiding principle for the construction of future political aspirations. Furthermore,
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Speaker 2: there are two responses that are symptomatic of this crisis
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Speaker 2: having arrived in the United States, the War on Terror
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Speaker 2: and the movement for nine to eleven truth. As previously mentioned,
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Speaker 2: the rhetoric of war on Terror and accompanying moralistic language
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Speaker 2: by Bush relied on the effective contagion caused by nine
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Speaker 2: to eleven and caused epistemic harm through discouraging investigation and
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Speaker 2: leaving Americans unable to parse through the decades of context
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Speaker 2: leading up to the attacks. Now, this context is that
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Speaker 2: same conversation we were having with the superpowers, weapons of
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Speaker 2: mass destruction, the continued use against immigrants, the whole level.
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Speaker 2: Now with that we talk about immigration, We're talking a
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Speaker 2: lot more about Muslim and Southeast Asian people who are
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Speaker 2: discriminated against based on the nine to eleven attacks. So
20:16
Speaker 2: this leads to the continued, as I said, misleading of
20:19
Speaker 2: where we are today and the usage of departments like
20:22
Speaker 2: DHS and of fear and racism to protect the borders.
20:26
Speaker 2: You know, we love that phrase, protect the borders. The
20:28
Speaker 2: rampant increase of Islamophobia after nine to eleven was alarming, astounding.
20:34
Speaker 2: Many Muslim Americans reported being profiled and harassed soon after
20:37
Speaker 2: the incident. To be clear, the Islamophobic attitude in the
20:41
Speaker 2: US was not new at the time. It just increased substantially,
20:47
Speaker 2: so it has already been a thing. People are already
20:49
Speaker 2: criticizing Muslims in general. We know the whole adage of
20:55
Speaker 2: when we hear it today like Muslims are anti women,
20:58
Speaker 2: our anti queer, these things which can be true just
21:03
Speaker 2: like any other religions, and just like any other religions,
21:06
Speaker 2: there are extremist groups, as we see in the US
21:08
Speaker 2: with the anti trans movement. So according to one committee,
21:14
Speaker 2: the American Arab Anti Discrimination Committee, there was over seven
21:18
Speaker 2: hundred cases of hate crimes against the Muslim community within
21:21
Speaker 2: the first nine weeks after nine to eleven and ten
21:24
Speaker 2: years after the incident. After nine to eleven, a Pew
21:27
Speaker 2: research showed that at least forty percent of Americans believed
21:31
Speaker 2: that there was strong support of extremist terrorists Muslim groups
21:34
Speaker 2: by the Muslim Americans in the country. So if you're Muslim,
21:38
Speaker 2: that must mean you're an extremist supporter and wants the
21:41
Speaker 2: downfall of the US essentially is what it comes down to.
21:45
Speaker 2: And in twenty twenty two, there was a paper written
21:47
Speaker 2: by Jenny Lebowitz. She quotes different research papers that interviewed
21:51
Speaker 2: young Muslim students in the US who spoke about their
21:54
Speaker 2: experiences after nine to eleven and how they had to
21:56
Speaker 2: deal with the harassment and tension with their schools. Again,
22:00
Speaker 2: it wasn't just in the schools or just among the population,
22:03
Speaker 2: but also by the politicians to bring extreme biases from
22:08
Speaker 2: their constituents. They love these platforms. We know this, we
22:13
Speaker 2: see this, we're seeing this. So in this paper she
22:16
Speaker 2: expounds on the experiences of the youth at the time
22:19
Speaker 2: and even the discrimination they faced by their teachers and
22:22
Speaker 2: the administration. As in the government administration and the school administration.
22:26
Speaker 2: She talked about the way they the courses were taught
22:29
Speaker 2: and how oftentimes the portrayal of the extremists was used
22:33
Speaker 2: as a way of discriminating against the Muslim youth and
22:36
Speaker 2: their families. So it was like, see example here, you're Muslim,
22:40
Speaker 2: don't you think this is your fault? Type of conversation.
22:44
Speaker 1: Yeah, And the new policies put into place after the
22:47
Speaker 1: attacks only worsened the experience. Quote. It is not merely
22:52
Speaker 1: from peers, educators, and school staff that Arab American youth
22:55
Speaker 1: are subjected to discrimination, but through government agencies as well.
22:59
Speaker 1: The USA Patriot Act Uniting and Strengthening America by Providing
23:04
Speaker 1: appropriate tools required to intercept and obstruct terrorism, was put
23:08
Speaker 1: into action shortly after the September eleventh attacks for the
23:11
Speaker 1: purpose of improving national security by increasing the powers of
23:15
Speaker 1: federal agencies to conduct searches, use electronic surveillance to intercept
23:20
Speaker 1: communication both nationally and internationally, and detain suspected terrorists. Many
23:26
Speaker 1: have found this political policy to encroach on several liberties. However,
23:30
Speaker 1: at the time, many citizens felt that the Act was
23:32
Speaker 1: a compromise for the purpose of a safer nation. The
23:35
Speaker 1: Pew Research Center found that Initially, forty nine percent of
23:38
Speaker 1: Americans agreed that it was acceptable and wise to sacrifice
23:42
Speaker 1: individual freedoms and ensure national security.
23:48
Speaker 2: And I think that's where we are today. Maybe I
23:51
Speaker 2: think we are falling back a little bit, not necessarily
23:55
Speaker 2: with just the Muslim community, but obviously any brown and
24:00
Speaker 2: black community people. They are saying, you know, it's fine,
24:03
Speaker 2: we can infringe on their human rights because it's gonna
24:06
Speaker 2: save all of us. Yeah, every time I hear sentences
24:10
Speaker 2: like that, I have to pause, be like, what how
24:14
Speaker 2: far are you willing to let this go? And do
24:18
Speaker 2: you really think it's protecting you? Spoiler alert No, now
24:22
Speaker 2: she does say that. Just a few years later, the
24:24
Speaker 2: approval dropped by eleven percent, so the people started to realize, wait,
24:29
Speaker 2: maybe not, maybe not. The ideology was slowly turning by
24:33
Speaker 2: that time. But that obviously did not stop the policies
24:36
Speaker 2: put into place, as we see some of the repercussions today.
24:40
Speaker 2: So during this time, strict and stringent processes were required
24:44
Speaker 2: for many of the Muslim majority countries. So they were
24:47
Speaker 2: targeting and they still are by the way, these being
24:50
Speaker 2: countries Muslim countries, new forms of surveillance were used to
24:53
Speaker 2: keep tabs on everybody who might be seen as a threat.
24:57
Speaker 2: Muslim informants were used to watch over Muslim people for
25:01
Speaker 2: the FBI. Many were discouraged from wearing their religious clothing
25:05
Speaker 2: like turbans or h jobs in fear of discrimination, and
25:08
Speaker 2: many were deported or detained based on being racially profiled,
25:12
Speaker 2: or many were just deterred from trying to obtain visas
25:15
Speaker 2: or citizenships due to the difficult process. I feel like
25:19
Speaker 2: this is also where we put the caveat When people
25:21
Speaker 2: say do it the right way, they don't understand the
25:25
Speaker 2: level of process that they have to go through and
25:28
Speaker 2: the years it can take, yeah, to actually be able
25:32
Speaker 2: to get it.
25:33
Speaker 1: Years, Like people have waited twenty thirty years.
25:36
Speaker 2: Yeah, as in like they put their application in and
25:38
Speaker 2: have to check in every year, but they never.
25:40
Speaker 1: Get to go through officially.
25:43
Speaker 2: Yeah. And those are the same people who've been a
25:45
Speaker 2: lot of them have been detained.
25:47
Speaker 1: Again.
25:47
Speaker 2: This will be a later subject, but just saying so.
25:51
Speaker 2: It was during this time in SEERS or the National
25:54
Speaker 2: Security Entry Exit Registration System was implemented to help screen
25:59
Speaker 2: out any foreign threats. Oh what a novel, idea, y'all novel.
26:05
Speaker 2: Through this program, the government stated they would root out
26:08
Speaker 2: terrorists from the start. So from the American Immigration Council
26:12
Speaker 2: dot org article. This is also from two thousand and four.
26:15
Speaker 2: This is at a media after they write this. Attorney
26:18
Speaker 2: General Ashcroft announced in seers in June two thousand and two,
26:22
Speaker 2: describing it as a response to the nine to eleven attacks.
26:26
Speaker 1: Quote.
26:26
Speaker 2: In this new war, our enemies platoons infiltrate our borders,
26:30
Speaker 2: quietly blending in with the visiting tourists, students, and workers.
26:34
Speaker 2: Ashcroft said, they move unnoticed through our cities, neighborhoods, and
26:38
Speaker 2: public spaces. Their tactics rely on evading recognition at the
26:41
Speaker 2: border and escaping the tension within the United States. Their
26:47
Speaker 2: terrorist mission is to defeat America, destroy our values, and
26:50
Speaker 2: kill innocent people in seris. He said, we'll expand substantially
26:56
Speaker 2: America's scrutiny of those foreign visitors who may pose a
26:59
Speaker 2: national security concern and enter our country, and it will
27:02
Speaker 2: provide a vital line of defense in the war against terrorism.
27:07
Speaker 2: Spoiler alert, it did not.
27:10
Speaker 1: It did not.
27:11
Speaker 2: So during the Obama administration, the program was scrapped in
27:14
Speaker 2: twenty eleven, but was replaced by US Visit and We're
27:19
Speaker 2: not going to go into that. What we can tell
27:21
Speaker 2: you is it has its own similar issues and it's
27:25
Speaker 2: not as effective. It was a little less intense. Again,
27:29
Speaker 2: but by the way in SEERS I say it was scrapped,
27:32
Speaker 2: it could actually be reinstated at any time. It was
27:35
Speaker 2: just put on hiatus, as some people might say. So
27:40
Speaker 2: there's a lot to be noted here, and again we're
27:46
Speaker 2: not focusing too much on these programs. But like I said,
27:49
Speaker 2: it was not a good program. It was so unforgiving
27:54
Speaker 2: that it turned away a good like one tenth of
27:57
Speaker 2: those who were looking for asylum help and profiled many many.
28:04
Speaker 1: People in SEARS.
28:05
Speaker 2: Was originally overseen by the DOJ so because it was
28:08
Speaker 2: created before DHS, But in two thousand and three it
28:11
Speaker 2: was switched to be under the Department of Homeland Security,
28:13
Speaker 2: so they had to shift things around with the new department, right.
28:17
Speaker 1: Yeah, And going back to the DHS, it was created
28:21
Speaker 1: in response to what we just talked about in two
28:23
Speaker 1: thousand and two under the Homeland Security Act. It is
28:28
Speaker 1: a federal executive cabinet and in it they tackle relations
28:31
Speaker 1: like quote, counter terrorism, border security, cybersecurity, immigration and customs,
28:37
Speaker 1: and disaster prevention. Preparedness and management. The DHS is headed
28:41
Speaker 1: by the Secretary of Homeland Security and headquartered in Washington, DC.
28:45
Speaker 1: And this information is from Cornell University Law School site.
28:50
Speaker 2: Right, So back to that National Academy's article, there's a
28:54
Speaker 2: bit more detail. They write, the creation of the new
28:56
Speaker 2: department constitutes the most substantial reorganization of the federal government
29:00
Speaker 2: agencies since the National Security Act of nineteen forty seven,
29:03
Speaker 2: which placed the different military departments under a Secretary of
29:06
Speaker 2: Defense and created the National Security Council in SC and
29:11
Speaker 2: Central Intelligence Agency CIA. Again, we're not going into all
29:15
Speaker 2: of that either, man trying to If we were trying
29:19
Speaker 2: to break down the US government and these types of services.
29:22
Speaker 1: I think we'd be a here for years. Years.
29:27
Speaker 2: So when we look at the emerging Department of Homeland Security,
29:30
Speaker 2: we see that it incorporated twenty two government agencies and
29:34
Speaker 2: some one hundred and seventy nine thousand people into a
29:37
Speaker 2: single organization. This is again from the National Academy's article.
29:41
Speaker 2: So they continue with we also see an organization with
29:44
Speaker 2: a proposed budget for the fiscal year two thousand and
29:47
Speaker 2: four of thirty six point two billion dollars, roughly one
29:50
Speaker 2: tenth the size of the nation's military defense budget, which
29:53
Speaker 2: is three hundred and eighty billion at the time. Note
29:55
Speaker 2: that overall these amounts constitute roughly a seven percent jump
29:58
Speaker 2: in the domestic defense spending. And those figures come from
30:02
Speaker 2: again two thousand and four. The spending today is much
30:06
Speaker 2: more than that. Just for the anti immigration enforcement that
30:09
Speaker 2: was included in the Big Beautiful Bill Act, which we
30:13
Speaker 2: have not talked about yet. They were granted one hundred
30:16
Speaker 2: and seventy billion dollars, not just the thirty six point
30:20
Speaker 2: two billion, just so you know, and what is that funding.
30:25
Speaker 1: Let's talk about it now, you ready.
30:29
Speaker 2: So the US Immigration and Customs Enforcement, along with Customs,
30:32
Speaker 2: Border Protection and Patrol are the big winners here. They
30:36
Speaker 2: get in the money. These two departments that are under
30:39
Speaker 2: DHS have made huge waves.
30:41
Speaker 1: We know this. So who are they?
30:43
Speaker 2: So this is from the ICE dot gov site. We're
30:46
Speaker 2: going to get some direct information from them, okay, And
30:49
Speaker 2: this is what they write. ICE was created in two
30:51
Speaker 2: thousand and three through a merger of investigative and interior
30:54
Speaker 2: enforcement elements of the former US Custom Service and the
30:57
Speaker 2: Immigration and Naturalization Service. So the overall department has changed
31:02
Speaker 2: through its existence again a bit more information from a
31:06
Speaker 2: Forum together dot org. In recent years, ISIS activities have
31:10
Speaker 2: increasingly focused on interior immigration enforcement. In fiscal year two
31:14
Speaker 2: thousand and nine, ICE made two hundred ninety seven thousand,
31:17
Speaker 2: eight hundred and ninety eight arrests for violations of immigration laws,
31:22
Speaker 2: and the number declined each year through fiscal year twenty sixteen,
31:28
Speaker 2: until the trend reversed between fiscal year twenty sixteen and
31:32
Speaker 2: fiscal year twenty seventeen, where arrests climbed from one hundred
31:35
Speaker 2: and eleven thousand, one hundred and four to one hundred
31:38
Speaker 2: and forty three thousand, four hundred and seventy The number
31:41
Speaker 2: of individuals apprehended without a criminal record has been increasing
31:45
Speaker 2: under the Trump administration. On average, four one hundred and
31:49
Speaker 2: forty three undocumented immigrants without a criminal record have been
31:52
Speaker 2: arrested each month since January twenty seventeen, more than double
31:56
Speaker 2: the one thousand, seven hundred and three per month average
31:59
Speaker 2: during the November and December of twenty sixteen. ICE also
32:02
Speaker 2: detains immigrants through its management of the nation's civil immigration
32:06
Speaker 2: tension system. In addition, ICE works with other agencies to
32:10
Speaker 2: carry out the detention, enforcement and placement of undocumented children
32:14
Speaker 2: and adults. The agency works closely with Customs and Bordered
32:18
Speaker 2: Protection CBP, whose officers enforced immigration law at the borders
32:22
Speaker 2: and port of entries. Specifically, ICE also works with the
32:26
Speaker 2: Department of Health and Human Services HHS Office of Refugee
32:30
Speaker 2: Resettlement ARR, which assumed the responsibility of detaining and caring
32:35
Speaker 2: for unaccompanied migrant children after I was restructured. So those
32:41
Speaker 2: this specific rapport from FORUM together was from twenty seventeen,
32:46
Speaker 2: So this is about a ten year old report. I
32:49
Speaker 2: am not putting any of the newer numbers yet. We're
32:51
Speaker 2: going to put that in its own section, but we
32:54
Speaker 2: needed to talk about what has happened and why it
32:56
Speaker 2: is growing. Also, you can kind of see the difference
33:00
Speaker 2: between CBP and ICE here and we're gonna get We're
33:03
Speaker 2: gonna talk about CVP in a minute, because I think
33:05
Speaker 2: we need to talk about the differentiation and why they're blending,
33:08
Speaker 2: because it is tactical. So now under ICE there are
33:11
Speaker 2: specific offices as well. For specifically, they are the Enforcement
33:15
Speaker 2: and Removal Operations e r O, who I think we
33:18
Speaker 2: see a lot on the news, a lot more than
33:20
Speaker 2: the others. Then we have Homeland Security Investigation HSI, Office
33:25
Speaker 2: of Principal Legal Advisors op LA in the Office of
33:28
Speaker 2: Professional Responsibility. So I will say the UH, op l
33:32
Speaker 2: A and OPR are the ones that are supposed to
33:34
Speaker 2: be overseeing like cases to help I.
33:38
Speaker 1: Believe refugees and migrants.
33:41
Speaker 2: I think I'm gonna say, if I had to give
33:43
Speaker 2: them a grade, it's an fus F minus.
33:46
Speaker 1: Is there.
33:46
Speaker 2: Yes, So the main focus of much of the conversation
33:49
Speaker 2: again lies with E R O, who are behind the
33:52
Speaker 2: arrest and large scale raids. Of course, they do have
33:55
Speaker 2: assistance currently from other sectors, so other like the hsi's
33:59
Speaker 2: also helping them as well as.
34:00
Speaker 1: Are kind of coming together.
34:02
Speaker 2: Their mission is quote to identify, arrest, and remove aliens
34:06
Speaker 2: who present a danger to national security or are a
34:09
Speaker 2: risk for public safety, as well as those who enter
34:12
Speaker 2: the United States illegally or otherwise undermine the integrity of
34:16
Speaker 2: our immigration laws and our border control efforts. I don't
34:20
Speaker 2: think the first two parts really matter to them. So
34:24
Speaker 2: this sector is also in charge of overseeing and managing
34:27
Speaker 2: of immigration detention centers as well. And I'm not going
34:30
Speaker 2: to mention well, I am going to mention obviously, I'm
34:32
Speaker 2: mentioning it the private sectors that are involved in this
34:37
Speaker 2: as well. We're going to talk more about the specific
34:39
Speaker 2: detention centers in our part two maybe part three who
34:43
Speaker 2: Knows and specifically talk about what that looks like and
34:46
Speaker 2: why we need to be watching them, and also the
34:48
Speaker 2: new ones that are popping up everywhere. I believe we're
34:50
Speaker 2: about to get a couple of new ones here in
34:53
Speaker 2: Georgia as well, but there's a lot to be seen.
34:57
Speaker 2: They are supposed to be overseeing it, but they're also
34:58
Speaker 2: supposed to be overseen by federal government as well. I
35:01
Speaker 2: guess the federal government, mRNA.
35:05
Speaker 1: They suck. Just why they suck?
35:10
Speaker 2: If you're interested, because I was questioned in a becoming
35:16
Speaker 2: an officer specifically for the ro O. This is what
35:18
Speaker 2: USA jobs dot gov, which is the federal job sites require.
35:23
Speaker 2: Condition of employment, you must be a US citizen. You
35:27
Speaker 2: must successfully pass a background investigation, which it doesn't really
35:30
Speaker 2: imply what that looks like, complete the initial online assessment
35:34
Speaker 2: and USA Higher Assessment if required. You must completely pass
35:38
Speaker 2: a pre employment drug test as a condition of employment.
35:41
Speaker 2: Employees are a subject to drug tests throughout. Males born
35:44
Speaker 2: after December thirty one fifty nine must certify registration with
35:48
Speaker 2: selective Service. I actually don't know what that is. No, either,
35:53
Speaker 2: I don't know if that's something to do with like
35:54
Speaker 2: enlistment or like enlisting the probationary period.
36:01
Speaker 1: They have a.
36:03
Speaker 2: Mandatory pre employment physical fitness test, doll, I wonder what
36:09
Speaker 2: that looks like. I will say, as the person who
36:11
Speaker 2: worked with the Department of Juneral Justice, we also had
36:13
Speaker 2: to do that.
36:14
Speaker 1: It wasn't that hard, so that just to not.
36:17
Speaker 2: Be noted requirement to obtain and maintain a secret clearance.
36:21
Speaker 2: I feel like that's not true. But we'll say you'll
36:24
Speaker 2: be required to carry a firearm while performing the duties
36:26
Speaker 2: and maintaining firearm proficiency. It's also mandatory you have to travel.
36:32
Speaker 2: Travel is required. I think we know that, complete a
36:36
Speaker 2: pre employment medical examination and if referred a polygraph. I
36:43
Speaker 2: find all of these things like, okay, it doesn't even
36:45
Speaker 2: talk about education. They do say you get higher if
36:50
Speaker 2: the more education you get, like the pay grade, the
36:53
Speaker 2: grade kind of like a military if you have certain level,
36:56
Speaker 2: you can get pretty high if you have one year
36:58
Speaker 2: of college.
37:00
Speaker 1: But I didn't see anyway acquired a high school diploma either.
37:03
Speaker 1: Though I didn't see it. I know I mentioned this
37:07
Speaker 1: very much in passing because you were asking me about YouTube,
37:13
Speaker 1: and like, I consume a lot of YouTube and recently
37:16
Speaker 1: because usually like a lot of times I'll put on
37:19
Speaker 1: I don't know, like a thunderstorm anything like that, but
37:21
Speaker 1: I don't have I don't pay for the fancy YouTube
37:24
Speaker 1: where you don't get ads. But I've had to stop
37:27
Speaker 1: watching YouTube because there are ads for ice and there's
37:30
Speaker 1: nothing like having your relaxing thunderstorm and then being outrage
37:38
Speaker 1: by an ad for ICE. But in it they've been
37:41
Speaker 1: they're like, oh, you can get all these great benefits.
37:43
Speaker 1: It's pretty easy to get in. Like I'm kind of like.
37:47
Speaker 2: Yeah, essentially, it is easy, And we're going to talk
37:49
Speaker 2: a little bit more and then the next part about
37:52
Speaker 2: the benefits that he is promising, that government is promising,
37:56
Speaker 2: as well as who who was actually applying, because we
37:59
Speaker 2: do have some rles for that. But also we'll come
38:01
Speaker 2: back with the fact that on Reddit right now, a
38:04
Speaker 2: lot of those people who are hired are angry because
38:06
Speaker 2: they aren't being given those promise rewards or the war
38:12
Speaker 2: rewards that have to be like you have to invest
38:14
Speaker 2: in ten years.
38:15
Speaker 1: Yeah, it doesn't surprise me.
38:18
Speaker 2: Also, interestingly, I don't know if this is true. This
38:21
Speaker 2: is just a side note for those who are calling
38:23
Speaker 2: in reporting and getting all these like from like crime stoppers.
38:27
Speaker 2: I don't think anyone's ever actually paid out these rewards
38:32
Speaker 2: from what I understood that there's statistically no one gets
38:34
Speaker 2: paid out because you have to do these certain things
38:36
Speaker 2: and they make sure you have a disqualifier or even
38:39
Speaker 2: if those tips are credible. Moving on, I will say
38:55
Speaker 2: I couldn't find their values on here and for drama,
39:00
Speaker 2: Paulity for drama. But here's their missions and vision. So
39:05
Speaker 2: they say mission protect America through criminal investigation and enforce
39:08
Speaker 2: immigration laws to preserve national security and public safety, which
39:12
Speaker 2: is not true because we know they profile that's not
39:14
Speaker 2: a criminal investigation.
39:15
Speaker 1: Yeah, just put out there.
39:17
Speaker 2: But their vision is this DHS premier law enforcement agency,
39:21
Speaker 2: mitigating transnational threats and safeguarding our nation and communities lawful immigration, trade, travel,
39:26
Speaker 2: and financial systems.
39:29
Speaker 1: I don't know that's true.
39:32
Speaker 2: I don't think your vision is coming true, my friend.
39:36
Speaker 1: My enemy, Go back to your vision board. Go back
39:39
Speaker 1: to the vision board. Yes, and we can't ignore the
39:42
Speaker 1: usage of the current CBP though they are seemingly used
39:47
Speaker 1: for the same agenda. There are some differences. Here's a
39:51
Speaker 1: bit from yahoo dot com quote. Customs and Border Protection
39:54
Speaker 1: focuses on protecting US land, air, and sea borders and
39:57
Speaker 1: controlling the flow of goods across the border. It has
40:00
Speaker 1: agents stationed at three hundred and twenty eight US ports entry,
40:04
Speaker 1: including airport, seaports, and land border crossings, where they screen cargo,
40:08
Speaker 1: packages and foreign visitors. US Border Patrol is an arm
40:12
Speaker 1: of Customs and Border Protection. The agency includes field, air,
40:16
Speaker 1: and marine operations, as well as tactical units. Immigrations and
40:20
Speaker 1: custom Enforcement is tasked with identifying, arresting, and deporting immigrants
40:24
Speaker 1: who are in the country illegally. They also conduct operations
40:28
Speaker 1: to combat transnational crime and partner with local law enforcement agencies,
40:33
Speaker 1: as they have throughout Florida.
40:35
Speaker 2: I'm not really sure why Florida was mentioned, but I
40:39
Speaker 2: guess I'm.
40:43
Speaker 1: Sure there's a reason, and that's not I mean, obviously
40:47
Speaker 1: it's going on everywhere. That's not a call out.
40:49
Speaker 2: For but just saying for some reason, y'all was like
40:54
Speaker 2: specifically in Florida.
40:55
Speaker 1: Fair enough.
40:56
Speaker 2: So. The CBP has changed quite a bit from its
40:59
Speaker 2: origination in eighteen ninety one. We have the beginning of
41:03
Speaker 2: immigration inspectors who collected immigration of rival records and whether
41:06
Speaker 2: they could be admitted or rejected into the country, which
41:09
Speaker 2: was created under the eighteen ninety one Immigration Act. Later,
41:13
Speaker 2: this agency would be named the Bureau of Immigration and.
41:16
Speaker 1: Would later be put together with a Bureau.
41:18
Speaker 2: Of Naturalization Services as the Immigration and Naturalization Services or IONS.
41:23
Speaker 1: I think everybody pretty much does what that is.
41:25
Speaker 2: So it would be in nineteen twenty four that border
41:28
Speaker 2: patrol agents would be created under the Immigration Bureau. Then
41:32
Speaker 2: in two thousand and three, yes, two thousand and three,
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Speaker 2: when the IONS was dissolved, we have the beginning of
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Speaker 2: the CBP. Do that long again, nine to eleven, nine
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Speaker 2: to eleven, y'all. And I want to put this fun
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Speaker 2: fact here that this was created in nineteen twenty four
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Speaker 2: in Part two Prohibition. So this is from the CBP
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Speaker 2: side itself.
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Speaker 1: They say.
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Speaker 2: The eighteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution, prohibiting the importation, transport,
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Speaker 2: and manufacture or sell of alcoholic beverage, went into effect
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Speaker 2: at midnight on January sixteenth, nineteen twenty With the passage
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Speaker 2: of this constitutional amendment and the numerical limits placed on
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Speaker 2: immigration to the United States by the Immigration Acts, of
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Speaker 2: nineteen twenty one and nineteen twenty four, border enforcement received
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Speaker 2: renewed attention from the government. The numerical limitations resulted in
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Speaker 2: people from around the world to try illegal entry if
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Speaker 2: attempts to enter legally failed. Therefore, the mission of the
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Speaker 2: border patrol became more important to the US government, and
42:30
Speaker 2: they go on to say liquor smuggling was a major
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Speaker 2: concern because it too often accompanied alien smuggling. The majority
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Speaker 2: of the border patrol was assigned to the Canadian border.
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Speaker 2: Smuggling was commonplace along the Mexican border also, but whiskey
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Speaker 2: bootleggers avoided the bridges and slipped their forbidden cargo across
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Speaker 2: the Rio Grande by the way of pack mules along
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Speaker 2: the southern border.
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Speaker 1: Now replaced the abasion. I cannot stress enough how it
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Speaker 1: a big if an impact. It actually.
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Speaker 2: Really like the level of like, okay, and now coming
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Speaker 2: back into it, you understand that this is ridiculous.
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Speaker 1: This is a money making scheme.
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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, even today, yeah yeah, okay. So soon they
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Speaker 2: would continue to expand their operations with new technology and
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Speaker 2: new ideology, with things like Operation Hold the Line, which
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Speaker 2: targeted El Paso as a dangerous areas with many quote
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Speaker 2: illegal border crossers, and in the early nineteen nineties and
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Speaker 2: soon was used to have anti smuggling units. So Border
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Speaker 2: Patrol ended up having these. But that would all change
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Speaker 2: once again September eleventh, two thousand and one, and as
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Speaker 2: an international traded overall travel grew rapidly, they brought this
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Speaker 2: organization from administrative to becoming federal law enforcement in the
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Speaker 2: twentieth century. And as it was once under the Department
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Speaker 2: of Treasury, because you know, it was about the money,
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Speaker 2: it was so would be passed on onto the law
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Speaker 2: enforcement under the new Department of Homeland Security.
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Speaker 1: So this is how we get them too.
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Speaker 2: Oh and if you're interested in applying for the CBP,
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Speaker 2: here are their requirements again, be US citizen, have a
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Speaker 2: valid non restrictive driver's license. Does that mean if you
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Speaker 2: have glasses, is that restrictive.
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Speaker 1: Restricted? I don't know. I think it just means sometimes
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Speaker 1: you get those points on your license. I don't know. Oh, okay,
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Speaker 1: I can't say.
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Speaker 2: You have to have resided in the US for at
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Speaker 2: least three of the last five years. They have to
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Speaker 2: be a US citizen. Maybe, I guess if you're a
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Speaker 2: I don't know. You have to be eligible to carry
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Speaker 2: a firearm. They have something about their birthday as well,
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Speaker 2: be willing to travel. You need to pass the application process.
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Speaker 2: You may be disqualified if your background includes illegal drugs
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Speaker 2: or selling of illegal drugs, convicted including UH misdemeanor domestic
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Speaker 2: violence charges which I think it may have been taken
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Speaker 2: off for the Ice people, by the way, that's not
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Speaker 2: a requirement, and international harboring or concealment of undocumented aliens.
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Speaker 1: Well, here are their core values. Vigilance is how we
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Speaker 1: ensure the safety of all Americans. We are continuously watchful
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Speaker 1: and alert to deter, detect, and prevent threats to our nation.
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Speaker 1: We demonstrate courage and valor in the protection of our nation.
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Speaker 1: Service to the country is embodied in the work we do.
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Speaker 1: We are dedicated to defending and upholding the Constitution of
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Speaker 1: the United States. The American people have entrusted us to
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Speaker 1: protect the homeland and defend liberty. Integrity is our cornerstone.
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Speaker 1: We are guided by the highest ethical and moral principles.
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Speaker 1: Our actions bring honor to ourselves and our agency. Wow,
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Speaker 1: I feel like those have changed. They might need to
45:50
Speaker 1: change those. I have to say. I have some words
45:56
Speaker 1: that I hear in any kind of thing like this,
45:58
Speaker 1: and valor is one. No, that's code word. Whatever you're doing,
46:04
Speaker 1: I'm not on board with it. Sound like a white
46:07
Speaker 1: supermassist level a little bit. Yeah, Yeah, you're right, you're right.
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Speaker 1: It does feel like it.
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Speaker 2: So the two agencies do work hand in hand and
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Speaker 2: have many joint tasks force. In fact, the leaders of
46:17
Speaker 2: several ICE positions have been given two Border patrol officers
46:21
Speaker 2: and have since adopted their more aggressive tactics and arrests
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Speaker 2: and operations. So think black hawk helicopters, swat like like it,
46:29
Speaker 2: swarming essentially.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: So, here's a quote from an NBC News article written
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Speaker 2: in October of twenty twenty five. They write, the mentality
46:36
Speaker 2: is CBP does what they're told, and the administration thinks
46:39
Speaker 2: ICE isn't getting the job done. One of the DHS
46:42
Speaker 2: officials said, so CBP will do it. The White House
46:45
Speaker 2: has signed off on a list of at least a
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Speaker 2: dozen directors of ICE field officers who are set to
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Speaker 2: be reassigned in coming days. The two DHS officials, the
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Speaker 2: former DHS official and the federal law enforcement official said
46:58
Speaker 2: they said that at least half of them will be
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Speaker 2: replaced with Border Patrol officials. ICE has twenty five field
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Speaker 2: offices around the country, so the move could replace nearly
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Speaker 2: half of the agency's leaders. So again, as it's become
47:12
Speaker 2: more and more volatile, we see a little bit changing.
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Speaker 2: And it was on purpose. The government literally said ICE
47:19
Speaker 2: is not doing it fast enough, hard enough, loud enough,
47:23
Speaker 2: so we're bringing in Border Patrol, which already has this
47:26
Speaker 2: type of reputation. Go ahead and put this caveat here
47:30
Speaker 2: at the end of this, and then we'll bring it
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Speaker 2: back again when we do part two. The following statistics
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Speaker 2: the issues that the things that are happening today with
47:40
Speaker 2: the state of immigration and the usage of government agencies,
47:45
Speaker 2: and again the tactics being used are both ICE and CBP,
47:49
Speaker 2: but right now the rhetoric is ICE. I think it's
47:53
Speaker 2: kitchi to say Ice out, we joke because we're in
47:58
Speaker 2: We're in drama all But essentially, when we talk about
48:02
Speaker 2: what is happening, who is the center of these types
48:07
Speaker 2: of operations, it is both Border Patrol and Immigration services,
48:14
Speaker 2: and they are doing this together. The tactical level of
48:17
Speaker 2: what we are seeing may be headed by seasoned people
48:22
Speaker 2: like from Customs, Border Patrol, the ICE officers who are
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Speaker 2: coming in do not seem to be seasoned, who are
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Speaker 2: just following loosely these rules as they are playing it
48:35
Speaker 2: by ear fast and the loose. So there's a lot
48:39
Speaker 2: to be said. I know this is a lot of information,
48:43
Speaker 2: but this is why we have split it up because
48:46
Speaker 2: we've already hit pretty much our marker with just this background.
48:50
Speaker 2: When we come back, we are going to talk about
48:52
Speaker 2: where we are today, what has happened in comparison to
48:56
Speaker 2: the past with today, and also we will come back
48:59
Speaker 2: with who are actually pushing back because we love to
49:03
Speaker 2: end on some hope. Yeah, oh you know, stick with
49:06
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