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Normally Podcast: Cuomo’s Comeback Struggles, NYC Mayoral Drama, and Trump’s 2025 Game Plan · Normally

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Speaker 1: Hey guys, we were back on normally. The show with
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Speaker 1: normal is it takes for when the news gets weird. I'm
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Speaker 1: Mary Catherine hamp and.
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Speaker 2: I'm Carol Markowitz. How's it going, Mary Catherine?
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Speaker 1: It's going good. I had travel day to day, so
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Speaker 1: I've been up for a while trying to get used
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Speaker 1: to West Coast time.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, always tough.
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Speaker 3: I had a very intense playoff game today. It was
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Speaker 3: among nine year olds playing flag football. I love living
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Speaker 3: somewhere that takes sports so seriously. Like I had moms
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Speaker 3: who don't have any kids playing in this texting me
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Speaker 3: like what's the score? Like tell us they're nine. I mean, look,
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Speaker 3: I my heart was beating out of my chest. I
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Speaker 3: was sweaty, like it was really something. But I would
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Speaker 3: only care if my kids in it, Like.
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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, see, I know if you had me out there,
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Speaker 1: I would definitely care. You were just carrying.
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Speaker 2: But they weren't out there.
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Speaker 1: They were home, like, hey, who's winning?
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Speaker 2: Like it's just you know, yeah.
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Speaker 1: I mean.
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Speaker 3: I always kind of enjoyed the places that take youth
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Speaker 3: sports very seriously, and now I live in one of those,
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Speaker 3: and that's crazy.
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Speaker 1: Well, I'm excited for the not Today's result, by the arrest,
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Speaker 1: is a tournament.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, he plays another game, another playoff game tomorrow on
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Speaker 3: the road to the nine year old Super Bowl.
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Speaker 1: Alrighty okay, shall we let's do it?
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Speaker 3: Is there a Nazi tattoo on the chest of a
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Speaker 3: Democratic US Senate candidate out of Maine?
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Speaker 1: There is? So, this is Graham Plattner, who is a
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Speaker 1: Democratic nominee in the primary fight to face Susan Collins,
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Speaker 1: who is the always stay winning Republican perennials from Maine.
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Speaker 1: Now is there a chance to knock her off in
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Speaker 1: an off year when people are ticked off at Trump
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Speaker 1: in a place that is not super Redy okay, Yeah,
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Speaker 1: so they got They got two folks running in Maine.
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Speaker 1: One is this guy who got in early, who's a
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Speaker 1: Graham Platner, who's a marine vet, working class guy, oyster man. Yes.
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Speaker 1: Whereas the other person that the establishment is backing is
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Speaker 1: Janet Mills, who is the governor of Maine. This is
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Speaker 1: an interesting matchup because the governor of Maine embodies all
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Speaker 1: the things Democrats messed up last time, which is like,
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Speaker 1: she's just like an establishment old person, and so people
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Speaker 1: are gonna get ticked off about that. But Platner's got
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Speaker 1: his own problems, which we're finding out about now.
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Speaker 3: So he had some questionable Reddit posts making fun of
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Speaker 3: working class white people, which not great in Maine claims
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Speaker 3: to be. I'm always like, it's always the people who
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Speaker 3: are the whitest who are making like bad comments about
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Speaker 3: white people, and I'm always like, you are white, you
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Speaker 3: are white.
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Speaker 2: Stop it. Yeah.
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Speaker 3: So, and then this tattoo thing comes up, and the
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Speaker 3: story's been kind of floating around. People knew about that
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Speaker 3: this tattoo.
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Speaker 2: For a while.
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Speaker 3: He knew what it was for a very very long time.
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Speaker 3: There's evidence that he's been aware for a very long time.
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Speaker 3: And now he's like, oh, I'm gonna just I'm going
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Speaker 3: to cover it up. It's totally fine. I had this
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Speaker 3: Nazi tattoo for decades, but it's all good now.
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Speaker 1: Well, and his story is he got it on. Surely
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Speaker 1: even Croatia, he was drunk. They didn't really know what
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Speaker 1: it was. They just thought it looked cool. Even if
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Speaker 1: you believe his version of the story, they've.
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Speaker 2: Done many years of it.
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Speaker 1: He had almost twenty years to cover it, twenty years.
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Speaker 1: The reason he covered it is because someone found out
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Speaker 1: about it. In his first run for office. That's that
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Speaker 1: doesn't I don't that doesn't pass.
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Speaker 2: The stiff exactly.
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Speaker 3: And obviously the mainstream media is holding him accountable for this.
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Speaker 1: Right right, obviously, especially the pod Save America bros, who
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Speaker 1: I guess now are just a clearinghouse for excuses for
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Speaker 1: Nazi tattoos, because it's amazing it came there to drop
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Speaker 1: the news. He was like, where could I do a
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Speaker 1: sympathetic interview about my Nazi tattoo? And he came to them,
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Speaker 1: and then the rest of the media, of course, has
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Speaker 1: lots of nuanced thoughts.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, they are so nuanced.
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Speaker 4: It's about a like it's by the way, it's not
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Speaker 4: even like on his tush, right right test, Yeah, like
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Speaker 4: where you're going to see it a lot, And yeah,
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Speaker 4: there's a lot of nuanced thinking going on out there.
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Speaker 1: I think you flagged one tweet in particular.
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Speaker 3: Crystal Ball, who is just the worst, said for me personally,
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Speaker 3: I'll take a candidate with a regrettable tattoo over one
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Speaker 3: who has steadfast lead supported a Jenna's side, and like
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Speaker 3: the readers add context note on it is like they
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Speaker 3: supported a genocide. The Nazi ss were responsible for running
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Speaker 3: concentration camps today Neo Nazis used a symbol to glorify
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Speaker 3: that genocide.
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Speaker 2: He reportedly bragged about the tattoo.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Do you want to take a guess whether Crystal
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Speaker 1: Ball thought that Elon was guilty of a Nazi gesture
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Speaker 1: when he raised his hand at the crowd. Oh, yes,
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Speaker 1: she did. She thought that he needed to be held
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Speaker 1: accountable for that. But ink ink, that is specifically a
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Speaker 1: death's head. That's gonna be fine. And then I noticed
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Speaker 1: one of the pods save guys also, uh was you know,
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Speaker 1: did a long nuanced tweet about you know, do we
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Speaker 1: only want perfect candis?
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Speaker 2: Right?
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Speaker 1: Hey, ma'am, Like, I actually agree with you that we
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Speaker 1: don't want to cancel everyone who had unfortunate posts when
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Speaker 1: they were in their twenties, right. I think that's fair.
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Speaker 1: I don't want teenage tweets to bury people for the
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Speaker 1: rest of their lives. You guys were the ones who
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Speaker 1: were firing people over Okay, symbols that they put out
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Speaker 1: of their window in traffic. Okay, that was your line, right,
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Speaker 1: that was me yea, that we need to be considered
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Speaker 1: of the redemption arc of a working class vet who
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Speaker 1: had a Nazi tattoo for twenty years before he covered it.
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Speaker 2: And knew the whole time, and you know, did nothing.
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Speaker 3: Sung Min kim At, a reporter for AP, had this tweet.
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Speaker 3: Maine Senate candidate Graham Platner tells AP he got a
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Speaker 3: new tattoo to cover one scene as a Nazi symbol
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Speaker 3: seen as yep, we would totally get that benefit of
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Speaker 3: the doubt if our tattoo was seen as a Nazi symbol.
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Speaker 1: It's just it's I don't find it that hard to
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Speaker 1: be like these guys joking in the chat about the
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Speaker 1: ovens and the gas chambers. I don't want anything to
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Speaker 1: do with them. Yes, guy with the Nazi tattoo, he
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Speaker 1: should be out of the race. That guy with the
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Speaker 1: uh violence political violence encouraging texts about his opponent in
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Speaker 1: the AG race in Virginia. Not him either. These are
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Speaker 1: just qualifying events.
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Speaker 2: It's crazy, all right.
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Speaker 3: Onto the crazy little mayoral race in New York City.
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Speaker 3: Curtis Leiwa is the Republican candidate. He is running against
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Speaker 3: the Democratic candidates or Mom Donni and ex Governor Andrew
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Speaker 3: Cuomo is the independent candidate who is the kind of
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Speaker 3: the great hope to stop Mom Donnie Curtis Sliwa Republican
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Speaker 3: is real tough. It's a real tough road in New
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Speaker 3: York City, obviously, But so Curtis has a lot of
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Speaker 3: pressure on him to drop out, and he's saying, why
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Speaker 3: should I drop out? Andrew, I'm lost to Zora Jwani
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Speaker 3: in the primary? Why don't Why isn't he drop out?
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Speaker 3: Give me his can you know his voters? Why do
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Speaker 3: I have to drop out? It's getting real ugly. I'm
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Speaker 3: seeing some battles on X between you know, kind of
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Speaker 3: either moderate Democrats or Republicans, and there's a lot of
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Speaker 3: people kind of mixed in there just really hoping that
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Speaker 3: slee Wa drops. He has said that he's been offered
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Speaker 3: fifteen million dollars to drop out, and he won't. I
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Speaker 3: don't feel like the fifteen million thing is true. Personally,
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Speaker 3: it just doesn't seem worth it. I don't know, because
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Speaker 3: the truth is that I don't know if Sleewa dropping
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Speaker 3: gives Andrew Cuomo the edge to beat Mam Donnie. And
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Speaker 3: I definitely don't think, you know, if, I just don't
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Speaker 3: think either one of them dropping out makes that much
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Speaker 3: of a difference.
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Speaker 2: So New York's in a really tough spot.
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Speaker 3: I was at the commentary magazine dinner last weekend in
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Speaker 3: New York, and I love commentary. I love New York
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Speaker 3: City despite all of its many, many problems. But all
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Speaker 3: the conversations I was having were very copy. They were like,
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Speaker 3: you know, yeah, ma'm Donnie's probably gonna win, but he's
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Speaker 3: not going to be able to do all the stuff
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Speaker 3: that he wants to do, which, listen fair enough. I
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Speaker 3: feel like if I was in New York right now,
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Speaker 3: I would either be pressuring Slee or to drop out.
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Speaker 2: Or studying myself for.
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Speaker 3: The reality that I'm going to have this communist Islamist
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Speaker 3: mayor and hope that he can't get his crazy proposals through.
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Speaker 1: I understand Sleeve's position because Andrew Clomo already lost to
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Speaker 1: this dude. He had a chance to beat him and
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Speaker 1: he didn't beat him. Cuomo has also run one of
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Speaker 1: the least impressive miamigs I have ever seen. I mean,
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Speaker 1: the oppo on Mom Donnie is like mana from heaven
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Speaker 1: and he can't get any of it out there at all.
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Speaker 1: They haven't done any work on that. He is unimpressive
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Speaker 1: on the debate stage. Whereas Clots was.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, he did great. Yeah, because it cares.
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Speaker 3: He cares about Like Curtis can't win. He can't win,
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Speaker 3: and that's too bad. But he cares about new York.
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Speaker 3: You see it in him. He wants it. Curtis Leewa
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Speaker 3: wants to be New York's next mayor. Does Andrew Cuomo
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Speaker 3: want to be New York's next mayor? I don't see
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Speaker 3: him fighting to the death on these Twitter threads. I see,
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Speaker 3: you know, people who really want New York not to
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Speaker 3: head further down that bad path having these really you know,
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Speaker 3: scratching each other's eyes out arguments. Meanwhile, Andrew Cmo is
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Speaker 3: barely campaigning. I said this, you know many times on
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Speaker 3: the show. But during the primary he would skip voter
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Speaker 3: for hims like Curtis lee What would show up and
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Speaker 3: him I'm donne would show up and some of the
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Speaker 3: other candidates.
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Speaker 2: And Andrew Cmo thought it was beneath him. And I
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Speaker 2: haven't seen a.
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Speaker 3: Change in that attitude. He is not out there in
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Speaker 3: New York like I want to be your mayor. This
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Speaker 3: is what I stand for.
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Speaker 2: Vote for me.
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Speaker 1: I don't.
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Speaker 2: I don't see him doing any of that.
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Speaker 1: No, he's entitled. He thinks he he thinks he should
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Speaker 1: get a redemption ARC and I, actually, you're not the arc,
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Speaker 1: not owed the arc. You have to go out and
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Speaker 1: work for it. And he's always been somewhat unimpressive. The
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Speaker 1: only time anyone liked him was that month or two,
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Speaker 1: the month about COVID every daying. It turns out he
11:14
Speaker 1: was totally wrong, and a ton of people it's amazing. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: but this all, this all feels very too little, too late,
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Speaker 1: and it is reminiscent of the Democratic Party with Biden
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Speaker 1: and Harris, where they're like, oh, we waited too long
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Speaker 1: to do the thing exactly, run any good candidates. Now
11:35
Speaker 1: what do we do?
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Speaker 2: But and they don't have a plan at all.
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Speaker 3: Right, you know this is this account Queen's parents on X.
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Speaker 3: She her bio says she's a mom, she's a moderate.
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Speaker 3: She's said to me on X, you know, why don't
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Speaker 3: you have Cuomo on your show? And the truth is
11:54
Speaker 3: that we would have Clomo on the show. He would
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Speaker 3: never come on. He would never come on. It would
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Speaker 3: be interesting because we could give him a fair shake,
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Speaker 3: but I we'd have some questions.
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Speaker 1: We'd have we'd have some questions. And he also already
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Speaker 1: has demonstrated he's not interested in giving answers to those
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Speaker 1: questions exactly debate. He doesn't have a SoundBite to explain
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Speaker 1: the sexual harassments none, yep, yeah, And you know if
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Speaker 1: you haven't, he just doesn't think.
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Speaker 2: He has to.
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Speaker 3: It's so galling and it's why people turned against him
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Speaker 3: during the pandemic too, because in the beginning he seemed
12:33
Speaker 3: like he was just figuring it out with the rest
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Speaker 3: of us, and then he got high on his own
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Speaker 3: supply and he was like, I know more than the
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Speaker 3: rest of you, and he knew less, he knew less.
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Speaker 1: So also, can we just note the poster, remember, yes,
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Speaker 1: just gonna go there. If you haven't seen the poster.
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Speaker 1: If you don't remember the poster, google it, please look
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Speaker 1: up Andrew Cuomo's.
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Speaker 2: Self himself and sold it on his website.
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Speaker 1: And he's sold about New York getting over the mountain
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Speaker 1: of COVID and he's like leading the flock. It is
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Speaker 1: one of the wildest things that has happened in politics.
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Speaker 1: And the fact that he wasn't mocked more mercilessly is
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Speaker 1: media bias on its space.
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Speaker 2: Our friend Nancy, we have a show together. We just
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Speaker 2: you know, we just it's so you have to look
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Speaker 2: it up.
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Speaker 1: By our listeners, please do yourselves a favor.
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Speaker 3: Look has been framed on her wall in her apartment
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Speaker 3: and it's awesome and everybody takes pictures in front of it.
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Speaker 1: It's such a ridiculous thing.
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Speaker 2: Good all right, one more?
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Speaker 3: One more Democrats are Banana's story. What's going on with
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Speaker 3: the shutdown?
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Speaker 1: Well, the shut shutdown is online. Think it could be
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Speaker 1: updated by tomorrow. But the twelfth vote of Senate Democrats
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Speaker 1: against reopening the government. They need a handful of those
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Speaker 1: guys to cross over to beat the filibuster. They keep
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Speaker 1: filibustering it. Democrats keep saying like, you won't open the government,
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Speaker 1: but that's actually not true, Like, yeah, Republicans have been
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Speaker 1: the culprits in the past. And it's funny because you
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Speaker 1: keep hearing and I think we've said this, but you
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Speaker 1: keep hearing like this is such a chill shutdown. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: because the media is not interested in making them pay
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Speaker 1: the price that they would pay. But they're going to
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Speaker 1: make themselves pay the price because Democrats keep telling on themselves.
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Speaker 1: As this video shows. This is Catherine Clark, the House
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Speaker 1: Democratic whip, so she's in leadership this is not some
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Speaker 1: rank and file backbencher. And this is what she's got
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Speaker 1: to say talking to Chad Program of Fox News about
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Speaker 1: the Democratic philosophy on the shutdown.
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Speaker 5: I mean, the shutdowns are terrible, and of course there
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Speaker 5: will be, you know, families that are going to suffer.
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Speaker 5: We take that responsibility very seriously. But it is one
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Speaker 5: the few leverage times we have.
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Speaker 3: People are going to suffer, but this is how we
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Speaker 3: get political leverage.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's not a good message, it's not a
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Speaker 1: good look. I do think they look. I think Republicans
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Speaker 1: are branded as the shutdowners.
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Speaker 2: In this case.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, they had to overcome that, and I think Johnson
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Speaker 1: in particular has done pretty a pretty good job of
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Speaker 1: messaging very well about that. The facts are on the
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Speaker 1: Republican side this time, and these guys keep doing stuff
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Speaker 1: like this. Didn't Schumer say something like like every day
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Speaker 1: gets better for us?
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Speaker 2: It wasn't the greatest thing ever. Yeah, that's not it.
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Speaker 1: That's not it because there are people who suffer, and
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Speaker 1: those people, in fact, are likely to be left leaning
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Speaker 1: constituents of the Democratic Party. So talking about it in
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Speaker 1: this way, particularly if you're in leadership and you're responsible
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Speaker 1: for their messaging. It's not great.
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Speaker 2: Yeah great, I am sure be held responsible by many.
16:03
Speaker 1: Peter Johnson has placed a screen in front of his
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Speaker 1: office for when they all so the Senators have been
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Speaker 1: wandering over to his side of the Capitol to say, like,
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Speaker 1: you guys should open the guy Republicans, you go back
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Speaker 1: to your Senate chamber and do it. So he left
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Speaker 1: a big screen TV playing this clip for anyone who
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Speaker 1: shows up.
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Speaker 2: Nice. I love it.
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Speaker 3: We're going to take a short break and come back
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Speaker 3: to hear how Trump is raising the White House.
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Speaker 2: It just won't exist anymore. Be right back.
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Speaker 1: It's crazy.
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Speaker 2: We are back on normally where the Libs are.
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Speaker 3: Having a normal one about Trump putting in a ballroom
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Speaker 3: in the East wing of the White House.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, they're really flipping out. So Trump has plans to
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Speaker 1: make this giant ballroom. And the East wing of the
16:55
Speaker 1: White House is not what you think of when you
16:57
Speaker 1: think of se at all front of the White House
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Speaker 1: or the south lawn or where the West Wing is
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Speaker 1: or where the President goes. It's actually down a long
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Speaker 1: hallway in a slightly separated building, and they are removing
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Speaker 1: that to do a privately funded ballroom, which actually I
17:15
Speaker 1: got to say, just on a practical level, Yeah, the
17:17
Speaker 1: White House barely has an event space.
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Speaker 2: How does the White House not have an event space?
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Speaker 3: I just I need them to bring the temperature down
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Speaker 3: and ask themselves, how is it possible that the White
17:30
Speaker 3: House doesn't have an event space?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, like you can cram people into like some of
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Speaker 1: those rooms, but a true event space would be extremely
17:40
Speaker 1: practical as an addition to the White House, and privately
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Speaker 1: funded makes me happier than publicly funded. But the freak
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Speaker 1: out is a, he's doing this while the government is
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Speaker 1: shut down and people are hurting, even though it had
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Speaker 1: been planned and it's privately funded. B it's privately funded,
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Speaker 1: so it's open for like or what have you. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I think I think it's but like there's two different
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Speaker 1: complains about it. And then it's just like he's ruining
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Speaker 1: America because part of the White House will no longer exist.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's ruining America because part of the White House
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Speaker 3: that maybe you didn't even know existed will no longer exist.
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Speaker 2: It's yeah, they're just how could they stay this crazy
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Speaker 2: for this long? About this man?
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Speaker 3: I think it would bother me if he lived in
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Speaker 3: my head the way he lives in their heads, like
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Speaker 3: Hillary Clinton tweeting, it's not his house, it's your house.
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Speaker 3: It is our house. We elected him. He's allowed to
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Speaker 3: put in a ballroom.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. It's also like all of this depends on just
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Speaker 1: erasing all of history before last year, right, right, Because
18:51
Speaker 1: Coolidge did a giant renovation, Truman did a giant renovation.
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Speaker 1: Every single president does things to the White House, including
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Speaker 1: including ambitious things.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: I believe several have gutted large parts of the White
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Speaker 1: House to make them more livable. The Obamas did a renovation.
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Speaker 1: It is one of the like best. It's one of
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Speaker 1: the open secrets of Washington and political culture in general,
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Speaker 1: that the White House is not nearly as fancy as
19:23
Speaker 1: the White House's reputation need you to believe. Yeah, And
19:28
Speaker 1: that the building is like kind of creaky and the
19:32
Speaker 1: floor boards are covered in weird carpet in places, and
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Speaker 1: you could roll a ball across the room because it's
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Speaker 1: not level like it's that there's a lot of spots
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Speaker 1: that it's.
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Speaker 2: An old building, you know.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, And the fact that they don't want him to
19:46
Speaker 3: touch it because they don't consider him the president. They
19:49
Speaker 3: don't think of him as a legitimate president, and they
19:51
Speaker 3: don't think that he should be allowed to do things
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Speaker 3: to it. And that's just ridiculous and too bad for you.
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Speaker 3: Near A Tandon believes that the images of them destroying
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Speaker 3: the East wing of the White House could be a
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Speaker 3: game changer in the elections, and she links a poll
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Speaker 3: that you know doesn't look great for your home state
20:09
Speaker 3: of Virginia. Spanberger is leading Earl Sears by like thirteen
20:13
Speaker 3: points in this poll.
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Speaker 2: Jay Jones is leading by five point points. But then
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Speaker 2: I was just curious.
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Speaker 3: I mean, I look, it could go badly in Virginia.
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Speaker 3: It's an off year election. This is what happens to
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Speaker 3: the out party like this, This could all I mean,
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Speaker 3: I hope that it doesn't and I hope you know
20:30
Speaker 3: all my fingers crossed for you guys.
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Speaker 2: But I go to the survey.
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Speaker 3: I go to the page of this poll and it
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Speaker 3: says this survey was fielded from these dates among six
20:38
Speaker 3: hundred and ninety four registered likely voters in Virginia.
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Speaker 2: Respondents were randomly chosen from a voter file provided by
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Speaker 2: I three sixty and texted a link that directed them
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Speaker 2: to complete an online survey hosted on the survey Monkey platform.
20:52
Speaker 2: Let me tell you that is not not exactly. That
20:55
Speaker 2: is not a poll I would put my trust in.
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Speaker 2: And again, it doesn't mean that things aren't bad for
21:03
Speaker 2: Republicans in Virginia, but the online survey that they have
21:06
Speaker 2: to complete after you send them a link, I mean,
21:09
Speaker 2: the person has to be really, really motivated. And you
21:12
Speaker 2: know who's really really motivated people who hate Donald Trump.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: By the way, two recent developments in that race. Abigail Spamberger,
21:20
Speaker 1: who's the Democratic governor candidate, was asked about j Jones
21:23
Speaker 1: for ag running mates texts by none other than Katie Kirk,
21:28
Speaker 1: who was like, these texts are encouraging political violence, like
21:32
Speaker 1: what's the deal man like? And Spanberger's like, you know,
21:37
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just upset. I even have to talk
21:39
Speaker 1: about it front as somebody's text.
21:42
Speaker 2: You, ma'am.
21:43
Speaker 1: I bet you are. You should talk to him about
21:45
Speaker 1: that anyway. So that happened. And also apparently there's a
21:48
Speaker 1: special prosecutor assigned to his speeding infraction that he didn't
21:54
Speaker 1: do his community service for, so now they're investigating whether
21:57
Speaker 1: he did his community So that guy wins.
21:59
Speaker 2: It's just boat blue no matter who. I just hope
22:03
Speaker 2: he does you know?
22:04
Speaker 1: But I do think if I may entertain the neurotandem
22:08
Speaker 1: notion for a moment, I do think there it's like
22:11
Speaker 1: a little jarring to watch that facade come down, and
22:16
Speaker 1: there is enough quick consumption of news with no context
22:21
Speaker 1: because the media is not interested in giving you context
22:24
Speaker 1: that like if you're fed all the time, Oh look
22:27
Speaker 1: at this dastardly thing he's doing. People could go like,
22:30
Speaker 1: oh gosh, oh, you know, Trump is always making high
22:34
Speaker 1: rises and he's ruining things right when in fact he's
22:37
Speaker 1: like just gonna make a really nice ballroom that has
22:40
Speaker 1: a little too much gold, and later some Democrat will
22:44
Speaker 1: come along and happily give it a little facelift and
22:47
Speaker 1: host everybody there because they need it.
22:50
Speaker 2: Life moves on.
22:51
Speaker 3: We'll be right back with more on Normally, where we
22:54
Speaker 3: try to be normal and have normal conversations.
22:56
Speaker 2: Be right back. We are back on Normally.
23:02
Speaker 3: Where our third topic is actually a column from August
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Speaker 3: that for some reason is trending again and it's got
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Speaker 3: a lot of people talking. It's from the Wall Street
23:12
Speaker 3: Journal and it's called work Life Balance will keep you
23:15
Speaker 3: mediocre for financial freedom by age thirty, optimize ruthlessly during
23:21
Speaker 3: your peak physical and cognitive years.
23:24
Speaker 1: Now.
23:25
Speaker 3: I don't know about financial freedom by thirty. I don't
23:29
Speaker 3: think anybody should be promising you that in a subhead
23:32
Speaker 3: of anything. But I do think that optimizing ruthlessly during
23:38
Speaker 3: your peak physical and cognitive years is not a bad
23:42
Speaker 3: idea and what I will suggest my own kids do.
23:45
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. Look, there's a happy medium, right. There's
23:50
Speaker 1: some of these videos I watch on Instagram that are like,
23:54
Speaker 1: I'm an investment banker, and it's just like beautiful twenty
23:57
Speaker 1: four year old woman who works from yeah I've seen
24:00
Speaker 1: right to one. Yeah am, and I'm like, whoa, yeah,
24:05
Speaker 1: let's do something else, but it's not for me, right,
24:08
Speaker 1: But she also is making banks, so like maybe she's
24:10
Speaker 1: just saving that for later, right. I do think there's
24:13
Speaker 1: a happy medium between that and like I must be
24:17
Speaker 1: able to do my twenty step skincare and my workout
24:21
Speaker 1: every day. Yeah, all these like specific, very specific wes.
24:25
Speaker 2: I finish at five o'clock.
24:27
Speaker 3: I there's a lot of videos like that also, And
24:29
Speaker 3: I do I respect that the girls who are like,
24:33
Speaker 3: I'm finished with work at five o'clock.
24:34
Speaker 2: I do not take calls at five point thirty. That's great.
24:37
Speaker 3: I just think to myself, AI is coming and it's
24:40
Speaker 3: going to replace a lot of people. And the people
24:43
Speaker 3: that are going to be replaced first are the ones
24:45
Speaker 3: who are like watching the clock to go home. It's unfair,
24:49
Speaker 3: and you know it's wrong. You're right, you should be
24:52
Speaker 3: paid for every you know, hour that you work. Absolutely,
24:56
Speaker 3: but there's a lot of jobs that are very strivy jobs,
25:00
Speaker 3: those like you said, those were never for me. I've
25:02
Speaker 3: never wanted to be, you know, a top boss somewhere
25:06
Speaker 3: or something. I always wanted that work life balance. So
25:11
Speaker 3: I completely understand. But if you are in these careers,
25:14
Speaker 3: there is something to the fact that you work insane
25:17
Speaker 3: hours in your twenties and then you coast a little
25:20
Speaker 3: bit in your thirties, forties and beyond. It is definitely
25:24
Speaker 3: the hours come down after a certain point, But those
25:27
Speaker 3: those hours in your twenties. I know people at these
25:31
Speaker 3: kinds of jobs and at these kinds of upper echelon
25:33
Speaker 3: of these kinds of careers, and.
25:36
Speaker 2: They work their butts off in their twenties.
25:39
Speaker 1: And even I'm going to give like a counterintuitive take,
25:41
Speaker 1: which is like, when you are hustling in your twenties,
25:44
Speaker 1: there's joy in that. Yeah, that's what you're doing at
25:48
Speaker 1: that moment of your life, right, And I did all
25:52
Speaker 1: sorts of silly stuff because I came up in new
25:54
Speaker 1: media when new media first existed. Yeah, I was figuring
25:57
Speaker 1: out how to make videos. I was figuring out how
26:00
Speaker 1: to throw things at the wall on YouTube, on Twitter
26:03
Speaker 1: to see what would work. And my bosses were letting
26:05
Speaker 1: me do it so because it was like this whole
26:07
Speaker 1: new frontier and that's how I made my career. But
26:10
Speaker 1: I pulled an all nighter every single Thursday night for
26:14
Speaker 1: years because I was editing video, and editing video took
26:19
Speaker 1: so long in two thousand and eight.
26:21
Speaker 2: Oh my god, the kids don't know.
26:23
Speaker 1: They did not know. I I have no idea. It
26:26
Speaker 1: took so long. And I was doing a little weekly
26:28
Speaker 1: YouTube show, and so I edited all night long on
26:32
Speaker 1: Thursday night and then just get up and go to
26:33
Speaker 1: work on Friday.
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Speaker 5: Mon.
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Speaker 1: This is what you do.
26:36
Speaker 2: That's what you did.
26:36
Speaker 1: I had created a product, and I created something that
26:39
Speaker 1: worked for my career, and it was fun and silly
26:42
Speaker 1: and also I worked real hard on it.
26:44
Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely.
26:46
Speaker 3: The writer of this piece a Meal, bar I mean,
26:49
Speaker 3: he's like, you know, started companies when he was in
26:52
Speaker 3: his twenties and is that kind of person. But you know,
26:58
Speaker 3: you don't have to be the tech bro and whatever.
27:01
Speaker 3: What you're talking about is the same thing he's saying.
27:04
Speaker 3: He has a great line. When you frontload success early,
27:07
Speaker 3: you buy the luxury of choice for the rest of
27:09
Speaker 3: your life. Because Mary Catherine right now is like stay
27:13
Speaker 3: up all night and do editing of videos like and
27:17
Speaker 3: you have that luxury of choice right because thank you
27:22
Speaker 3: to the Mary Catherine of back then.
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Speaker 2: She had worked real hard.
27:25
Speaker 1: She could handle those all nighters. Not no more, no
27:29
Speaker 1: more friends. But yeah, there was joy in that, and
27:33
Speaker 1: there was joy in being with work people after hours.
27:36
Speaker 1: And you know, you live a little bit more of that,
27:39
Speaker 1: the office life, where your more of your relationships are
27:41
Speaker 1: in that place than at your house. And it was
27:45
Speaker 1: good and it was fun.
27:46
Speaker 3: Yeah, and the adrenaline keeps you running. Thanks for joining
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