Latest / Beautifully Complex / 270: 3 Steps to Empower Confidence in Your Teen, with Kristi Simons

Transcript

270: 3 Steps to Empower Confidence in Your Teen, with Kristi Simons · Beautifully Complex

0:03
Those times when you're really feeling low. What small steps can I take to
0:08
start to bring me back up to a place where you know, I feel
0:13
better? And that for everybody who is going to look different, that's going
0:15
to take time, but yeah, it's it's definitely really important just to take
0:19
those small steps because every small step, I believe empowers our confidence because action
0:25
is what empowers confidence. Welcome to the Beautifully Complex Podcast, where I share
0:33
insights and strategies on parenting neurodivergent kids straight from the trenches. I'm your host,
0:39
Penny Williams. I'm a parenting coach, author and mindset mama, honored
0:44
to guide you on the journey of raising your atypical kid. Let's get started.
0:53
Welcome back, friends. I am joined by Christy Simon's today, who
0:59
is a Team life coach and host of the Confident Teen podcast, and we're
1:04
going to talk all things teens and confidence. This applies to young adults too
1:11
and pre teens even. You know, the more we know about building confidence
1:14
in our teens earlier than the teen years, the petter off they're going to
1:18
be when they do reach those teen years. So I hope everybody will listen
1:23
it's going to be a really important conversation. But first, Christy, do
1:26
you want to start by telling everybody a little more about who you are and
1:29
what you do. Yes? Absolutely, Penny, thank you so much for
1:33
having me today. It is such a pleasure to be here. You were
1:37
just on my podcast. It actually just launched yesterday, so this is really
1:41
exciting and I'm just really excited that we get to have another conversation because the
1:44
last one was really really wonderful. So my name is Christy. As you
1:48
said, I am a teen life coach. I'm actually a certified teacher.
1:51
So I was a teacher for just over twelve years before I made the decision
1:55
to step away from the classroom to pursue this passion of mine teaching teens how
1:59
to lead their lives with more confidence. And the reason I chose this path
2:05
is because I realized that it was really during those formative years, those teen
2:10
years, that I had really lost a lot of my self confidence, my
2:15
self worth, and looking back, I can see that there were so many
2:21
essential life skills that had I known them, they could have significantly impacted my
2:24
life for the better and helped me take steps more confidently. Towards adulthood and
2:30
towards the things that I was truly desiring in my life. And this is
2:35
why I have decided that, you know, these skills that I was noticing
2:38
were not taught in the traditional school system, I was just going to branch
2:42
out and teach them on my own. So this is the work that I
2:44
do today, really just taking so much of that brokenness form my teen years
2:50
and having that fuel me and lead me and guide me forward to helping teens,
2:54
as I said, to feel more confident in their lives as well.
2:58
Yeah, and why don't we teach that stuff in school? We send kids
3:02
to school to prepare them for life, but we don't really prepare them for
3:06
a life. It's so frustrating. I think so many teens have a really
3:10
hard time where if we had more like social emotional learning, more confidence and
3:17
just how to be a good human, I think it would make such a
3:21
difference. Yeah, for sure. And as a confidence coach, team life
3:24
coach, I feel like that word confidence can just be such a big word
3:29
for people. I often have parents come to me and the first thing that
3:34
they will say is just I want them to feel or I want them to
3:37
have more confidence, but it's not something that just clicks and happens overnight.
3:40
I definitely believe that we all have what I like to call it's almost like
3:45
this, like soul spark, So our soul is able to spark our confidence
3:50
when we are truly honestly surrounded by joy is where I feel like it's really
3:54
cultivated. But confidence in itself, what I have noticed over the last four
4:00
years on my own journey is that it is something that needs to be worked
4:03
at and practiced every single day, And I feel like the source of the
4:09
energy for your confidence within is really honestly fueled by just that taking actions in
4:15
your life that really align with you and the desires that you have for yourself
4:18
in the ways that you want to feel. So those are some of the
4:21
practices and the skills that I work on teaching the teens that I lead through
4:27
my business. I think it's so important for them to be able to show
4:31
up authentically, and I think so many teens and young adults don't feel like
4:36
they can do that, either out of fear or perceived that they might be
4:42
rejected or something like that. How do we help them to be more confident
4:47
in who they are even because I think that makes just such a difference in
4:51
how we show up every day if we feel like we can be ourselves.
4:57
So I absolutely love this question, and I love that you're asking this today.
5:00
Before we jumped on, I did tell you that I'm kind of just
5:02
moving through the waves of life and this podcast, podcasting in general, my
5:09
podcast, and meeting with other people to connect and have these meaningful conversations.
5:13
I know that this is a source of my joy and this is something,
5:15
as I said, that it does fuel that confidence that I have inside of
5:18
me, and it really helps that to shine and to grow. But this
5:23
morning I definitely had thoughts around canceling and not showing up because anger and sadness
5:29
are present currently in my life and I'm facing some struggles and some challenges,
5:33
and honestly, thinking back to Team Me or even myself in my twenties and
5:38
earlier thirties, that is something that would have been completely debilitating and I wouldn't
5:42
have been able to show up for a conversation like this. But because I
5:46
now have the skills and tools to help me manage and move through that,
5:50
I feel like I can still show up for the things that I truly love
5:54
and I truly enjoy knowing that, Yeah, like I'm confident in the way
5:58
that I'm able to manage and move through To me, I think I always
6:01
believe that somebody who was confident was somebody that had to feel good all the
6:05
time and be their best all the time and look perfect all the time.
6:11
And the more I do this work for myself and for others, I'm becoming
6:15
more aware that really truly confidence is being able to show up to a situation
6:23
and be in that situation feeling the way that fits that experience right, and
6:29
it's just about learning how to manage and move through that. So this morning,
6:33
before showing up for this conversation, I told myself, like I wanted
6:38
to be here, So what can I do? What do I teach my
6:41
clients that I can now put into practice to be able to show up and
6:44
have this conversation and share value with the listeners. And it really all comes
6:48
back to the skill of being able to hold center, to feel anchored and
6:54
grounded within yourself. That connection with yourself is so so very important, and
6:59
being able to trust your I trusted the little voice within this morning that was
7:02
like Christy fear and sadness are going to come along for the ride. You've
7:06
walked, you've moved through it, you've done the things, but you need
7:09
to show up for this conversation because there's definitely going to be something there that
7:12
you are able to share. And so something that I shared with you that
7:15
I know that you'll be able to share with your audience afterwards is the my
7:18
anchor activity. So when I talk about holding center or staying grounded within yourself,
7:25
then my anchor activity, I feel has been such a game changer for
7:28
some of my clients because they're actually able to put visually on paper the things
7:32
in their life that mean a lot to them. So for me, podcasting
7:36
and connecting with other people is something that means a lot to me. But
7:41
because I was navigating life's challenges and life storms this week, I really had
7:46
to anchor myself in and my anchors in my life are things like walking,
7:53
running, I love to paint, I like to meditate, Like There's lots
7:56
of things that I can do for myself to help me, as I said,
7:59
manage those motions so that I'm able to show up for the things that
8:01
I love and not completely miss out on my life so yeah, that is
8:05
really I feel like where confidence is cultivated is trusting ourselves and knowing that we
8:09
can move through things that are uncomfortable and come out on the other side with
8:15
that as a learning experience. Yeah, and I think that's a huge struggle
8:18
for most of our neurodivergent population. You know, my own kid, who
8:24
is twenty one now, he is avoidant. He's very avoidant. I don't
8:30
want to do uncomfortable things. I don't even want to think about the possibility
8:33
of doing uncomfortable things, right, And so it's something that we've had to
8:37
be much more mindful of and really purposeful around. You know, we've really
8:43
had to sit down and think about, Okay, what sort of activities might
8:46
be able to challenge that a little bit, to push in that direction.
8:52
You know, he certainly has his safe spaces, what he considers his safe
8:56
spaces, and he retreat to those often. But often we see, and
9:01
this is true for you know a lot of neurodivergent kids, that they want
9:07
to spend all their time there because that just feels safer, right, And
9:11
so really helping kids to be able to take a risk to be uncomfortable can
9:20
be really difficult. It can be really challenging. You know. We've been
9:22
working on this for years. I wish I knew when he was younger to
9:26
focus more on it. You know. I kind of thought, oh,
9:30
well, with maturity and with working on skills and things, this will just
9:33
get better, and it really doesn't. You really have to be very mindful,
9:37
you know, as a person with anxiety. I've had to do the
9:41
same thing for myself. It was something I actually wrote about in my weekly
9:45
email today as we're recording this, that I let anxiety really hold me back
9:50
in my life for a long time, and it still does to some extent.
9:54
But I had to at some point say I want this to be different,
9:58
and I'm going to be as uncomfortable as it takes for it to be
10:03
different. And I forced myself to take a public speaking gig and I literally
10:07
thought I was going to pass out. I thought I was coming out of
10:11
my skin like it physically was the biggest challenge in the world. But I
10:16
still did it, and after that it doesn't seem as scary right now.
10:22
I'm like, oh, I could do that again. But I never thought
10:24
I could for a long time. And it was that decision almost to be
10:28
like, I'm not going to let this hold me back anymore. How do
10:31
we help our teens kind of recognize when they're doing that and make those decisions
10:37
for themselves. Yeah, And that's just it that right there to me,
10:41
Like even just sitting here now, I mean definitely, I'm starting to feel
10:46
a lot better because now we're connecting. And I knew that showing up this
10:48
conversation would be the thing that would would also help, right because giving voice
10:54
to some of those fears, those anxieties, those emotions that are coming up
10:58
for you. I feel like once you actually speak your truth, that's what
11:03
allows your confidence to shine through and help you navigate that. But that doesn't
11:09
go without saying, like, I know how big of a challenge this was
11:11
for me just to show up for this today, so you can only imagine,
11:15
and this is something that I do practice, so I can totally understand
11:20
from the lens of a teenager or putting myself in their shoes, how challenging
11:24
it can truly be. And that it just makes me realize how much more
11:28
empathy we need to have for just people in general. Yes, because everybody
11:35
faces challenges, everybody, It's just I don't believe that they're talked about as
11:39
much as maybe they could be or should be. And yeah, that's the
11:43
reason why for me personally, I used to get really really stuck in my
11:48
life and feel like there was something wrong with me, when in fact,
11:52
there's nothing wrong. It's just about showing up, having the conversation, talking
11:54
to somebody that you feel safe with and that you know that you can trust,
11:58
or just taking that time and see, you know, some people may
12:01
have not been able to show up for this conversation for example, like I
12:05
did today, just pushing through and moving through so I was able to some
12:09
people might need more time, and that's okay. I really just feel like
12:11
it's about knowing yourself, really connecting with yourself and having a better understanding of
12:18
who you are and what you need in those situations, those times when you're
12:22
really feeling low. What small steps can I take to start to bring me
12:26
back up to a place where you know, I feel better And that for
12:31
everybody is going to look different. That's going to take time, but yeah,
12:33
it's it's definitely really important just to take those small steps because every small
12:37
step I believe empowers are confidence because action is what empowers confidence. So it
12:45
doesn't even have to be like these macro actions. It can just be these
12:48
little micro baby steps of things that we start to do promises that we keep
12:52
to ourselves. I promise myself today I would show up for this conversation,
12:54
and I am here, and I know that after I leave this conversation,
12:58
that's only going to help move through what I have to move through in a
13:01
more aligned way. As you were talking, and this comes up for me
13:13
every day. We hide ourselves from each other culturally, I guess, or
13:22
just the innate fear of being human. I don't know what it is specifically.
13:26
I think it's a lot of things, but we tend to hide ourselves.
13:30
And in the autism community we call it masking and we talk a lot
13:33
about it. But what I have come to realize is that we all sort
13:39
of mask, especially those of us who have anxiety, because we're pretending like
13:43
everything's fine while inside it's all like falling apart and freaking out. But I
13:48
think that we just are taught to show up to please others and to be
13:54
what they expect instead of being taught to just be yourself, and that will
14:01
help you surround yourself with people who accept that, who celebrate that right,
14:07
who you fit with? Who are your people? We don't teach our kids
14:11
that, we don't teach adults that. But I just think about how different
14:16
would the world be if we all felt genuinely okay with who we were,
14:22
and we could just walk completely authentically with never worrying about judgment from others.
14:28
It would be a different world. And you know, I get called an
14:31
idealist a lot. I know that's a very idealist thing to say. But
14:35
if we just took a few steps there, right, if we just help
14:39
our teens to feel okay with who they are, how do we support that
14:45
as parents? I'm just imagining there's so many different like things we could do.
14:50
You know. One way that I would show up with my own kid.
14:52
He's very into music and he didn't like to talk after school when I
14:56
picked him up. You know, I was always like, how was your
14:58
day? Tell me? And he was like, no, not doing it
15:01
right because he'd already lived the pain. He didn't want to go there again,
15:05
right, And so I learned if I wanted him to talk to me,
15:09
I had to meet him where he was. I had to you know,
15:13
go with his interest and so I would say, hey, just hook
15:16
up your phone and play you know something that you discovered recently that you think
15:22
I might like because we're you know, our whole family's into music. My
15:26
husband is a musician, and it's just a thing that he's really passionate about
15:31
our son. And so it was a way for me to open the door
15:35
with him, right, And I didn't have to then, you know,
15:39
it wasn't to then drill him about his day. It was just to connect,
15:45
but also to say, I see you, I see that you don't
15:48
want to talk about this. I see that you're really into music and it
15:54
really excites you, and so we're going to go there, right. What
15:58
other sorts of things like that can we do? Yeah, I absolutely love
16:02
that. What came up for me when you were saying that is just imagining
16:06
like somebody standing on the other side of a door, right, and just
16:08
allowing that individual to have their own human experience and to feel whatever needs to
16:15
be felt, and to also learn that they are capable of moving through that
16:19
on their own, like not trying to rescue so much, but just letting
16:23
them know that you're going to be there on the other side of that door.
16:26
When they're ready to come to you for any additional support. I feel
16:30
like that's huge, right, like not trying to control that situation or that
16:33
experience for them, but just allowing them to have it and knowing that on
16:37
the other side of that, which is what I keep telling myself, I
16:38
know these waves, they come and go, and once this passes on the
16:42
other side of it, I'm going to be able to look back and say,
16:45
Okay, this didn't happen to me, it happened for me, and
16:48
what are the reasons. I think the most important thing that I would tell
16:52
parents, because I know it's been one of the most significantly impactful things in
16:59
my life that I've done for myself is just after a challenge, after you
17:03
navigate one of life storms, it's just really reflecting and actually taking the time
17:07
to be present with all of that and saying, Okay, what was that,
17:11
what happened there, What did I do that worked? What could I
17:15
have done differently? What other supports do I need to put in place the
17:18
next time? If this happens, you start to learn more about yourself right
17:22
and what works best for you. And I think that's truly where confidence is
17:26
cultivated. I already had my own self care toolbox. I have had that
17:30
in place for the last four years now, right, so every time I
17:34
am faced with a challenge or a struggle, I know exactly where to turn,
17:37
the people, the music, for example, the car ride that I
17:41
might need, the walk that I might need. Again, it's going to
17:44
look different person to person, but I think if you have that self care
17:47
toolbox, that's something that's huge and then a big thing for me too,
17:51
has just been an affirmation, a quote something again, just to keep me
17:55
grounded in myself. And for the last four years, whenever I feel like
17:59
quote unquote giving up on myself or giving up on that day or that task
18:02
or whatever it was that I wanted to show up for, but I now
18:03
feel like I can't because my emotions are getting in the way, I just
18:07
make sure to repeat it to myself, and it's be brave, trust yourself
18:11
and take action. And it's just this small little reminder, but being brave
18:17
is just that reminder to be still to try and get to that root cause
18:22
if you can. It's just about reflection, right, just about being aware
18:26
of what's actually going on and then trusting that you have everything within you to
18:32
move through and navigate this challenge, whether that means asking for help or using
18:37
your toolkit that you have for yourself to be able to navigate that, and
18:41
then taking action on that. So if it is I just need to go
18:45
into my room and blast that song that I love so much to move this
18:48
energy through me, then you're trusting yourself and you're taking action to do that.
18:52
And you'd be surprised when you start actually listening to yourself and then showing
18:56
up for yourself. That's where the magic happens. And this is a process
19:00
we can teach our kids and our teens and our young adults. Right one
19:04
hundred percent. I'm still working on it, but it's for me personally in
19:08
my life. I know for sure if I would have had some of these
19:11
tools as a teen, it would have impacted my life significantly. I don't
19:17
know who would have taught them to me, how I would have learned them,
19:21
how open and receptive I would have been, because I definitely know now
19:23
in my mid thirties compared to when I was, you know, sixteen,
19:26
seventeen eighteen. Yeah, I was a different person back then. But I
19:32
know if it would have been like presented to me rather than you know,
19:36
forced on me. I definitely think that I would have been accepting the support
19:40
and the help. Yeah, that approaches everything right. And I think too,
19:44
it's the relationship that you have that you've already set in place that then
19:49
your teen is open to having conversations like this with you. If you don't
19:56
have that relationship, then yeah, you're going to get shut down work that
20:00
I do with parents. I'm like, look, relationship first, relationship first.
20:03
Everything is different when your relationship is solid, when you have connection and
20:11
bond. And I think that's where just getting your teens to talk to you
20:14
about anything comes in. They have to feel safe doing that. And speaking
20:21
of relationship, it's interesting how relationships can work right because like showing up here
20:26
today, we've only spoken once, we met and we connected on my podcast,
20:30
and I honestly, Penny, which I mean, this is just a
20:33
testament to the person that you are from that last conversation that I had with
20:37
you, Like I knew that I could show up here today and be completely
20:41
open and vulnerable and honest with you because this feels like a safe space.
20:45
So glod. Yeah, awesome. So I feel like that's another really important
20:49
piece to this is just allowing for those conversations to happen and just understanding that.
20:59
I person think that had my parents been more open with me and actually
21:03
communicated some of the struggles, maybe not all the details. I definitely think
21:07
there's you know, there's things that can be left out. Not everything needs
21:11
to be said, But I do believe had they communicated the way that they
21:14
move through challenges and struggles, it would have helped me significantly as an adult.
21:17
But I feel like I almost felt, as a team like there was
21:19
something wrong with me because everybody around me it's you know, you get the
21:22
same standard question every time you cross somebody on the street, or you meet
21:26
somebody in the supermarket, or you're talking with family friends, it's always how
21:30
are you? And the default answer for most people is fine, fine,
21:34
or good. Those are usually the two that we hear most often. Because
21:38
who would show up to a conversation and start just you know, expressing everything
21:44
that's on their heart and everything that's going on. It doesn't a lot of
21:47
people don't feel safe to do that. Yeah, so yeah, that's it's
21:51
a big place to start. Yeah, the more we have this conversation and
21:53
the more I just think about how we're not doing ourselves justice. Any of
21:59
us. Know my childhood example was much the same my parents, and I
22:04
think, you know, it's generational, it's what they were taught. But
22:08
they were never vulnerable in front of us ever. And I knew that one
22:17
of my parents. I'm not gonna share too much detail in out anyone,
22:21
but I knew that one of my parents struggled with anxiety. I could tell,
22:26
but we didn't talk about it. We never talked about it. We
22:30
just knew that they always had, you know, lots of toms with them
22:34
for all those stomach aches from all that anxiety. And then I was struggling
22:38
with anxiety myself, and I just thought, you know, I was a
22:41
weirdo, and you know, something was wrong with me. Right if we
22:47
had just had these conversations, But they didn't know to do that either.
22:51
Like, we're not criticizing parents. We want things to change. We're here
22:57
to help change it. You know, we've learned what we've learned as we
23:03
grew up. Either we learned how to be a parent, or we learned
23:07
exactly what we didn't want to do as a parent. You know, I'm
23:11
going to be the opposite for my kids, right, But we don't,
23:15
like, we don't teach parenting skills. You go to the hospital, you
23:18
have a baby, and you take it home, like all you have to
23:21
have is a car seat, yes, and off you go. Right.
23:25
You just learn by doing and buy the experiences and the examples that you've had.
23:30
So, you know, criticizing people doesn't help. You know, we
23:33
all learned whatever we learned, but we can learn better and we can do
23:37
better. And I think that's what we're talking about, is just being able
23:42
to show up differently. But I so want us to show up differently for
23:48
our teens and young adults. They need it so desperately now, I think
23:52
more than ever. You know, when I was that age, thank goodness,
23:56
we didn't have smartphones and social media, and you know, I didn't
24:00
have to worry about people making fun of me and it going viral. All
24:06
I worried about was like showing up to school and people talking about me behind
24:10
my back, right or something like that. Now it's a whole another layer
24:15
of fear and anxiety that goes along with causing us to just hide who we
24:23
are, to not show up authentically. Yeah, I really hope we'll keep
24:27
having these conversations and we'll help one teen and one family at a time,
24:33
right, Yeah, that's it. One of the most important things too.
24:37
I think that I've realized on my own journey. I mean, my kids
24:40
are still young, they're only two and four, but I do know that
24:45
if I want them truly to feel confident, or to show up in their
24:48
lives confidently and take confident actions towards the desires that they have in the dreams
24:53
and the goals that they want to set for themselves, I know that I
24:56
also need to be showing up in that way as well. I need to
25:00
model what I expect of them. So I feel like that is why I
25:03
am so so connected to this work. And it's funny, as you were
25:08
saying all that just about like parenting and stuff, I often think, I'm
25:11
like, oh my goodness, I hope that they never start a podcast like
25:14
twenty years down the road. Yeah, talking about all the same things,
25:18
like the things that we maybe did that weren't and you know things are going
25:22
to change. Then that's just it. I feel like we need to just
25:25
give ourselves more grace. I feel like we need to just embrace the fact
25:29
that This is a human experience that we are all experiencing, and it comes
25:33
with just this beautiful mix of all of these emotions. I never want to
25:38
show up here either with the intention of saying that any emotions are bad.
25:42
I actually believe. I mean, I don't. I really don't like feeling
25:45
sad and angry. I'm not gonna lie to you, but any right,
25:48
however, it's normal. Without that contrast, you can't honestly feel like the
25:52
depths of the joy and just how proud you are of yourself when you move
25:56
through something like that's really challenging. So I had never thought about it that
26:02
way. That is the message I wanted to share today. Yeah, I
26:06
never thought about that contrast and how important that contrast is so that we really
26:11
feel joy, Yeah, because otherwise everything would be kind of flat, right,
26:17
Well, and thinking back to my teen years too, right, I
26:18
don't even feel like that experience was a part of my life because to me,
26:22
it was just oh gosh, fear sadness. You know, a breakup,
26:27
a friendship that's gone wrong, somebody saying something behind your back, for
26:30
example, and you start to dabble in things that help you to numb those
26:37
feelings. So then that becomes your norm and you reach adulthood and you realize,
26:41
oh my gosh, like I can't use those outlets anymore. I'm a
26:45
mom. I need to be responsible. I can't just run away from my
26:48
pain. I have to learn how to face it and feel it. Yeah,
26:52
And I just feel like if I would have had those essential life skills
26:55
and tools as a teenager, you know, maybe not like drilled into me,
26:59
but just tiny little seeds planted, it would have made a world of
27:02
a difference. So, yeah, this is why I'm so passionate about the
27:03
work that I do. It's amazing, and I just want parents to know
27:07
that not every kid is going to do the depth of reflection on their childhood
27:11
that we have done. Right, Yeah, I'm not all going to be
27:15
doing this work that causes you to really dissect a lot of things. No,
27:21
So don't fear this just about taking the pressure off. Yeah, yeah,
27:25
I you know, one of the biggest things that I have been passionate
27:29
about lately is just being real in front of our kids, being totally human
27:34
in front of our kids, because when we don't, we set an expectation
27:40
of perfection that they can never attain and it's damaging and that's not what we
27:45
want, right. We think we're doing the right thing, but actually it's
27:48
not helpful, it can be harmful. So yeah, such a pleasure again,
27:53
as always, Christy, I feel like we're walking a similar path and
28:00
and similar ideals and ways that we want to advocate for kids and teens.
28:06
And I really appreciate the work that you're doing and I want to make sure
28:10
that everyone connects with you so they can learn more from you and the work
28:14
that you're doing. As you said you had my InCor activity. I also
28:18
have a link to one of your podcast episodes that I think aligns with that
28:22
activity, and we're going to post that in the show notes so that you
28:26
can do that activity and learn more about that. We will also have a
28:32
link to Christie's website and social media all that good stuff there, and those
28:34
show notes are at PARENTINGADHD and Autism dot com Slash two seven zero for episode
28:42
two hundred and seventy, and I hope that you will go and connect and
28:48
check out more of Christy's work. Thank you, Thank you for showing up
28:52
as your real, true, authentic self and showing us what that looks like
28:56
and how we can move through challenges and difficult times and still show up for
29:03
ourselves. I really appreciate you. Thank you. I appreciate you too,
29:07
and every meaningful conversation that we get to have. Yep, yeah, so
29:11
much. Well, I we'll see everybody next time. Take good care.
29:15
Thanks for joining me on the Beautifully Complex podcast. If you enjoyed this episode,
29:21
please subscribe and share, and don't forget to check out my online courses
29:26
and parent coaching at PARENTINGADHD and Autism dot com and at the Behavior Revolution dot com