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Mac & Bone Hour 2: Big Wins For Wake Forest, North Carolina & South Carolina · Mac & Bone Podcast

• 0:23
  Speaker 1: I challenged Lenores in a team meeting after the Alabama
• 0:26
  Speaker 1: game in front of the team that I told him,
• 0:28
  Speaker 1: Cutter's going to get some first team reps and you
• 0:31
  Speaker 1: need to play better.
• 0:32
  Speaker 2: I did.
• 0:32
  Speaker 1: And I challenged everybody, not just Lenores, but he's the
• 0:35
  Speaker 1: quarterback and you've got to hold him accountable. And he
• 0:38
  Speaker 1: responded against Kentucky and I thought he was a freaking
• 0:41
  Speaker 1: dude today. I mean, some of the throws he threw
• 0:44
  Speaker 1: in the tight windows, running the ball, just poised, confident.
• 0:50
  Speaker 1: I don't think anything changed. I think he just continues
• 0:52
  Speaker 1: to trust himself and do what we're asking him to
• 0:56
  Speaker 1: do and go make plays.
• 0:58
  Speaker 3: That is Shane Beamer after the huge beatdown of the
• 1:02
  Speaker 3: Gators in the swamp, surprising the heck out of us
• 1:06
  Speaker 3: and I'm sure the whole college football world.
• 1:09
  Speaker 4: And I love that.
• 1:10
  Speaker 3: After the Alabama game, he challenged, you heard him there
• 1:13
  Speaker 3: talking about it, challenged Lenora Sellers to be better in
• 1:16
  Speaker 3: front of everybody. And he responded. He played a pretty
• 1:21
  Speaker 3: damn good game against Kentucky, too. And on Saturday was
• 1:25
  Speaker 3: another level because there wasn't a mistake in there. He
• 1:28
  Speaker 3: didn't just drop the ball on a fourth down run
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  Speaker 3: like he did against Kentucky. Four touchdowns, a couple of
• 1:34
  Speaker 3: them absolutely beautiful passes. Like Coach said, tight window throws,
• 1:39
  Speaker 3: a running touchdown. Or did he not get a running?
• 1:42
  Speaker 3: He stopped at the one. He had the rushing touchdown.
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  Speaker 4: He did. So five total touchdowns.
• 1:45
  Speaker 2: He had 299 yards of offense, no turnovers, and five touchdowns.
• 1:50
  Speaker 2: touchdowns in a game where jayden ball was playing uh
• 1:53
  Speaker 2: one of the best players in america when norah sellers
• 1:55
  Speaker 2: far and away was the best player on the field
• 1:58
  Speaker 2: and maggie are we sure.
• 1:59
  Speaker 4: Jayden ball is still one of the best players.
• 2:01
  Speaker 3: In america it's supposed to be holy crap those last
• 2:04
  Speaker 3: two weeks florida can't run the ball that that.
• 2:06
  Speaker 2: Game also started out with adversity bailey stockton scores immediately
• 2:11
  Speaker 2: and it's like here here we go again they're they're
• 2:13
  Speaker 2: about to get run off the field but There they go.
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  Speaker 2: That was the only big play y'all gave up, though.
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  Speaker 2: They looked adversity in the eye and said, not today.
• 2:21
  Speaker 2: And that's the thing about Beamer. Obviously, I've been down
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  Speaker 2: on them as can be. I thought Beamer was done,
• 2:27
  Speaker 2: but he is Rasputin. When you think it's over, Shane
• 2:30
  Speaker 2: Beamer finds a way to get one of these ranked
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  Speaker 2: wins and reinstall hope into the program. I think we
• 2:35
  Speaker 2: gave up on it, though. I thought they'd show out
• 2:38
  Speaker 2: against Bama. Then Kentucky comes along and you're like, okay,
• 2:43
  Speaker 2: can they win? I think everybody kind.
• 2:45
  Speaker 4: Of gave up.
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  Speaker 2: It's also the way they lost the last two. Mississippi
• 2:49
  Speaker 2: State and Kentucky, I should say. The way they lost
• 2:51
  Speaker 2: those games, it was just deflating. Blew a lead against
• 2:55
  Speaker 2: Mississippi State. They blow a lead against Kentucky. It wasn't
• 2:58
  Speaker 2: just the fact that they lost those games. It's the
• 3:00
  Speaker 2: manner in which they did lose those games, which is
• 3:02
  Speaker 2: hard to come back from.
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  Speaker 4: But somehow, someway... By howdy they did. By howdy.
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  Speaker 3: So Gamecock fans, are you back on the Beamer Express?
• 3:13
  Speaker 3: Do you need to see more of it?
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  Speaker 4: Never left. To get on the Beamer Express? I was
• 3:16
  Speaker 4: just simply trying to motivate. Oh my God.
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  Speaker 3: So let's put this into context here for this segment.
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  Speaker 3: Carolina and South Carolina both get wins they needed, right?
• 3:30
  Speaker 3: Those coaches needed them and they both get them. Carolina,
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  Speaker 3: obviously beating Pitt. Wake Forest, this could be a dream season.
• 3:37
  Speaker 3: So if you're a Wake fan, we got to hear
• 3:40
  Speaker 3: from you too on how big you are dreaming. I mean,
• 3:43
  Speaker 3: we've got Deke fans saying, I want Miami. I want
• 3:47
  Speaker 3: a revenge chance in Charlotte against Miami. And it doesn't
• 3:50
  Speaker 3: sound crazy. It does not sound crazy. And they took
• 3:53
  Speaker 3: that game over in the second half, scored the last
• 3:55
  Speaker 3: 31 points.
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  Speaker 4: C.J.
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  Speaker 3: Bailey was 16 of 16 out the gate. Everybody in
• 4:01
  Speaker 3: Raleigh is enjoying the heck out of themselves. And after that,
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  Speaker 3: Wake Forest just took that game over. And we have
• 4:07
  Speaker 3: to have a Dave Dorn conversation. Part 748. I just
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  Speaker 3: I think state fans are done. I think State fans
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  Speaker 3: are done with this experience. Beamer, please remove yourself from
• 4:19
  Speaker 3: the hot seat. Dave Dorn, please enter the room. We're
• 4:21
  Speaker 3: looking for Mr.
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  Speaker 4: Dave Dorn.
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  Speaker 2: Dave Dorn, put them big old honey bag hams right.
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  Speaker 4: Up there on the seat, baby.
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  Speaker 5: No, I do.
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  Speaker 4: It's warm.
• 4:29
  Speaker 2: I have to say something. I have to defend Mac
• 4:32
  Speaker 2: for a moment here. A text came in and said
• 4:35
  Speaker 2: Mac and Mac Jr. were in attendance. They're the two
• 4:39
  Speaker 2: that ruined state. Not so fast, my friend. People trying
• 4:43
  Speaker 2: to blame you. You actually weren't there on Saturday. No,
• 4:45
  Speaker 2: we didn't go, which is a whole other story. Early
• 4:48
  Speaker 2: in the morning.
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  Speaker 4: You didn't show up either to the Wolfpack.
• 4:52
  Speaker 3: Wolfpack gave you, as the Wolfpack are apt to do, Bone,
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  Speaker 3: they gave you a good half. And what happens in
• 4:57
  Speaker 3: the second half of their games is appalling. Absolutely appalling.
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  Speaker 2: Wolfpack fans, I wish you could see the look on
• 5:03
  Speaker 2: Fitty Marlowe's face right now. Wolfpack gets blown out at home.
• 5:06
  Speaker 2: UNC gets a win over a ranked team. Mac, I
• 5:08
  Speaker 2: haven't seen this man smile like this since he went
• 5:12
  Speaker 2: to the pumpkin patch.
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  Speaker 6: Still haven't been, by the way. And the clock is ticking.
• 5:17
  Speaker 6: I told the girlfriend I want to do this. We've got, what,
• 5:21
  Speaker 6: three more weeks left in prime pumpkin patch season?
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  Speaker 4: She better come through.
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  Speaker 3: Don't you know, Bone, Finney is such a smitten-fittin' that
• 5:29
  Speaker 3: if you bring up his lady, he will go off
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  Speaker 3: on a tangent, man.
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  Speaker 4: I was just making a joke, Finn.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't realize I wasn't getting the actual pumpkin patch update.
• 5:37
  Speaker 2: We did not go to the game. My troops did
• 5:39
  Speaker 2: not want to battle Mother Nature.
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  Speaker 3: And the forecast actually, I think, looked worse than it
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  Speaker 3: turned out being because I don't think it rained pregame,
• 5:46
  Speaker 3: but I don't think it rained in the first half.
• 5:48
  Speaker 3: The rain came, and NC State must have left too, Boney,
• 5:51
  Speaker 3: because Wake Forest, Gio Lopez went the hell off. CJ
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  Speaker 3: Bailey's a good quarterback. Gio Lopez, at a much cheaper price,
• 6:02
  Speaker 3: absolutely outplaying CJ Bailey on Saturday and for the entire season.
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  Speaker 3: It's unbelievable. And those two receivers, Hernandez and Foley, are unbelievable.
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  Speaker 3: If you're a Wake fan, there's no way you're not
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  Speaker 3: thinking about, can we get to an ACC title game?
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  Speaker 3: There's no way you're not thinking about that right now.
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  Speaker 2: And the way that team played Miami the first time,
• 6:23
  Speaker 2: they're thinking, all right, give us one more shot at
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  Speaker 2: that thing.
• 6:25
  Speaker 3: Bone, everybody else that's supposed to be around them has
• 6:27
  Speaker 3: lost a game. Like SMU still ranked. I don't know
• 6:31
  Speaker 3: if I don't really feel like they're great. Louisville did
• 6:34
  Speaker 3: beat Florida state after getting down 14, nothing, but they
• 6:37
  Speaker 3: have few losses. Duke now has a loss. Um, Virginia
• 6:41
  Speaker 3: tech now has two losses after they let a backup
• 6:43
  Speaker 3: quarterback at Cal light them up the other day. So
• 6:47
  Speaker 3: you're looking around and it's like, I, I think wake
• 6:51
  Speaker 3: is the second best in a damn conference.
• 6:53
  Speaker 2: Well, Lopez right now, 13 touchdowns, one INT on the season. Um,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, we're talking ACC Player of the Year caliber stuff. Maggie,
• 7:02
  Speaker 2: I did hear from a source that you were very
• 7:04
  Speaker 2: upset that the family wasn't going to Raleigh.
• 7:06
  Speaker 4: He said, no, we need to go.
• 7:08
  Speaker 2: Don't make me sit on the couch all day and
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  Speaker 2: watch all these games for 12 hours.
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  Speaker 3: I wanted to be there, man, but, like, I just...
• 7:14
  Speaker 3: If everybody's going to be miserable, it ain't going to
• 7:17
  Speaker 3: be fun. But if a State fan would have said, hey.
• 7:19
  Speaker 4: There's Matt, get up, that would have ran you out
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  Speaker 4: of there. Oh, man.
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  Speaker 3: But anyway, so Wake fans got to be happy. South
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  Speaker 3: Carolina and North Carolina fans, it's interesting. How happy are
• 7:30
  Speaker 3: you really? Like, I think you've got to be happy.
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  Speaker 3: I don't want to be one of these people that
• 7:35
  Speaker 3: wants you to, like, spend the whole season, like, skeptical
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  Speaker 3: of your coach, hating your coach, and then we get
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  Speaker 3: a win and you don't celebrate it. I don't feel
• 7:42
  Speaker 3: like that's a fun way to survive. And I will
• 7:45
  Speaker 3: say this about South Carolina. The guys they paid played.
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  Speaker 4: Sellers.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, they did.
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  Speaker 3: Stewart with a sack, and then he was involved in
• 7:53
  Speaker 3: that forced fumble later.
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  Speaker 4: And Nick Harbour.
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  Speaker 3: That catch he made, getting his feet down in the
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  Speaker 3: corner on that dime by Sellers for a touchdown, and
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  Speaker 3: he had four for 83. But that catch he made
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  Speaker 3: in the end zone, I did not... It's kind of
• 8:08
  Speaker 3: like when the ball's in the air at XL. I
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  Speaker 3: did not expect him to make that play. Contested catch, dude,
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  Speaker 3: getting his feet down.
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  Speaker 2: No, because he's been open a lot back the last
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  Speaker 2: handful of years, and it doesn't always mean that the
• 8:17
  Speaker 2: ball will be caught, so... It's an adventure. That's the question, Mac,
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  Speaker 2: for Gamecock fans. What do you feel now? Do you
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  Speaker 2: think that this is the start of a run like
• 8:28
  Speaker 2: a couple years ago where they became a factor? I'm
• 8:32
  Speaker 2: not thinking they're going to be a playoff team, but
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  Speaker 2: just the run of wins. Can they put together performances
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  Speaker 2: like that back-to-back?
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  Speaker 5: Or.
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  Speaker 2: is the trepidation still there of, Oh no, that was,
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  Speaker 2: that was a tease. And they're going to slip up to,
• 8:45
  Speaker 2: you know, Arkansas along the way. There also is, and
• 8:47
  Speaker 2: we've already gotten the text. There also is the inclination
• 8:49
  Speaker 2: to look at Florida and say, what a fraud, what
• 8:52
  Speaker 2: a fraud must've just caught Mississippi after the Lane Kiffin bowl.
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  Speaker 4: You know what I mean? Like just timing of it.
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  Speaker 3: Because they, they have had two brutal weeks and all
• 9:03
  Speaker 3: of a sudden now Florida's running game. We thought it
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  Speaker 3: was one of the greatest running games we've ever seen.
• 9:08
  Speaker 3: It's like, Well, maybe not. Maybe it isn't. But I'm
• 9:12
  Speaker 3: happy for Shane Beamer, man. You listen to Shane. We
• 9:15
  Speaker 3: get a polarizing reaction when we say we like Shane
• 9:18
  Speaker 3: Beamer because he does have this defiant personality in press
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  Speaker 3: conferences when things are going bad that annoys some people.
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  Speaker 3: But I just think you listen to him and what
• 9:27
  Speaker 3: he said after the game about, man, the way he
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  Speaker 3: feels about for his players, his family. We should play
• 9:33
  Speaker 3: the clip, I guess. I just think there's a good
• 9:35
  Speaker 3: man there. And I just think he has a pressure
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  Speaker 3: cooker jawbone.
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  Speaker 4: That is hard.
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  Speaker 3: And I just think, I think, you know what I mean?
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  Speaker 3: I think he wants to do it well so badly.
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  Speaker 4: And he gets a little testy. And the guys, I.
• 9:48
  Speaker 2: Will say this. We've seen it numerous times. The guys
• 9:53
  Speaker 2: never give up on him.
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  Speaker 4: All right, let's not play the clip because we've got
• 9:55
  Speaker 4: to play the Dornan clip.
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  Speaker 2: The guys never, they always, just when you think the
• 9:59
  Speaker 2: locker room is over with, they seem to pull off something.
• 10:02
  Speaker 8: Do they not?
• 10:03
  Speaker 3: The way we talk about Bill Belichick and the way
• 10:05
  Speaker 3: Jordan Shipp and those guys gave him the game ball
• 10:07
  Speaker 3: after the game, you can tell these dudes want to
• 10:11
  Speaker 3: play for him. And they fought for him, man, with
• 10:13
  Speaker 3: no running game. And still to find a way to
• 10:16
  Speaker 3: win for a team that wants to run it first?
• 10:18
  Speaker 3: Gamecocks have the seventh. North Carolina fans should. They are improving, man.
• 10:24
  Speaker 3: It's just a matter of how many of them can
• 10:25
  Speaker 3: they get, man.
• 10:26
  Speaker 2: Gamecocks, Matt, are 17th in total offense in America right
• 10:29
  Speaker 2: now at 475 yards per game. Kendall Briles higher is good.
• 10:33
  Speaker 2: The offensive line is night and day. I mean, the
• 10:36
  Speaker 2: offensive line, they attacked in the portal. It's night and day.
• 10:38
  Speaker 4: And if Sellers is going to play like he did
• 10:40
  Speaker 4: the last two weeks. See, that's the thing, Bo. Rank him,
• 10:41
  Speaker 4: you cowards. Rank him, cowards. Rank him. My Lord.
• 10:45
  Speaker 3: Is Sellers going to play the way he has the
• 10:48
  Speaker 3: last two weeks? I think that's the big question. North Carolina,
• 10:51
  Speaker 3: we'll talk more about as the show goes on. Heels fans.
• 10:55
  Speaker 3: It wasn't pretty, but we knew, Bo, it would have
• 10:57
  Speaker 3: to be ugly and gritty for them to win the game.
• 11:00
  Speaker 3: And they found a way to get it done. Big
• 11:02
  Speaker 3: defensive stops late. The big pass play to Shamar Easter.
• 11:05
  Speaker 3: They're finally getting some other guys stepping up in the
• 11:07
  Speaker 3: passing game other than just Shipp and Thurman. So I
• 11:11
  Speaker 3: think you've got to feel good about the fact they're improving.
• 11:14
  Speaker 3: I think the question for Belichick is, how many wins
• 11:16
  Speaker 3: can you post? How much better can you be on
• 11:18
  Speaker 3: the football field? And can it outweigh some of the
• 11:20
  Speaker 3: dysfunctional stuff that people got tired of?
• 11:22
  Speaker 6: After Saturday, a bowl game's back in play.
• 11:25
  Speaker 4: You shouldn't lose to UConn. That would be a huge step.
• 11:28
  Speaker 6: And you shouldn't lose to Syracuse. So that gets you
• 11:30
  Speaker 6: to five. You're telling me, I mean, can you get
• 11:34
  Speaker 6: one more? I think state that game being at home.
• 11:37
  Speaker 4: Okay. Louisville, they're explosive.
• 11:41
  Speaker 6: What are they going to be when we get to
• 11:42
  Speaker 6: that point into the season? They're not going to beat Miami.
• 11:45
  Speaker 6: I'm not going to be. Flounder was trying to convince
• 11:48
  Speaker 6: me the other night that we could play with Miami.
• 11:49
  Speaker 4: Oh, God. Because of recent history. Because that matters on
• 11:52
  Speaker 4: a football field. This is what I love.
• 11:54
  Speaker 3: I love college football fans, bone and fitty as exhibits
• 11:58
  Speaker 3: A and B, that are so down on their coach,
• 12:00
  Speaker 3: so down on their program. and they get one win,
• 12:03
  Speaker 3: and all of a sudden they're looking at the schedule like,
• 12:05
  Speaker 3: we can get that one.
• 12:06
  Speaker 2: Can we get this one? That is pretty insane. It's
• 12:10
  Speaker 2: just kind of funny. That's an insane thought by Flounder Finney.
• 12:14
  Speaker 2: I am looking at the Gamecocks-Georgia game later on this year, though,
• 12:18
  Speaker 2: and I'm.
• 12:18
  Speaker 4: Wondering, why not us?
• 12:20
  Speaker 2: Why not us?
• 12:23
  Speaker 4: Why not us? Why not us? You got to be
• 12:26
  Speaker 4: Georgia and the refs, unfortunately. That's the problem.
• 12:29
  Speaker 6: To be fair, Mac, I've been critical of the Belichick
• 12:31
  Speaker 6: stuff off the field. I've kind of defended what he's
• 12:35
  Speaker 6: done in terms of the football.
• 12:36
  Speaker 4: Well, not last year. This year. The football stuff.
• 12:38
  Speaker 3: Please tell me last year you weren't defending. Can we
• 12:41
  Speaker 3: just rip Dave Doran? Can we get to the whole
• 12:43
  Speaker 3: point of this segment?
• 12:45
  Speaker 6: I've been trying to rip him for five years on
• 12:47
  Speaker 6: this radio station, but you won't let me.
• 12:48
  Speaker 4: Well, he won't let you because he ruins your Thanksgiving
• 12:50
  Speaker 4: every damn year. Seriously.
• 12:52
  Speaker 3: Peas all over your Thanksgiving turkey. I'm sorry for the
• 12:55
  Speaker 3: graphic image, y'all. Let's do this. Is it time to
• 12:58
  Speaker 3: end NC State fans?
• 12:59
  Speaker 4: Is it time?
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  Speaker 3: Listen, Dave Doran's done good things there. Good's the word
• 13:03
  Speaker 3: for it. But is it time to just end it?
• 13:07
  Speaker 3: The trend bone of NC State getting up in football
• 13:10
  Speaker 3: games and getting their doors blown off in the second
• 13:13
  Speaker 3: half is beyond alarming at this point. It happened to Vanderbilt.
• 13:17
  Speaker 3: It happened with App State. It happened with Louisville. Now
• 13:20
  Speaker 3: they were able to win the App State-Louisville games, but
• 13:22
  Speaker 3: they blew double-digit leads. And then it happened again with Wake,
• 13:25
  Speaker 3: where Wake scored 31 points in a to end this
• 13:29
  Speaker 3: football game. So listen to the obvious question Dave Dorn
• 13:33
  Speaker 3: got asked in the presser, and listen to his response.
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  Speaker 5: Hey Coach, outside of Richmond, NC State has not been
• 13:39
  Speaker 5: outscored 115-53 in the second half of games this year.
• 13:43
  Speaker 5: What do you think has led to some of those
• 13:44
  Speaker 5: struggles in the second half? Is it an inability to adjust,
• 13:47
  Speaker 5: or is it an inability to adjust to other teams' adjustments?
• 13:52
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I think it's more execution, you know, and that's
• 13:55
  Speaker 8: the sad part. You know, teams aren't doing things that
• 13:57
  Speaker 8: they didn't do in the first half. A lot of
• 14:00
  Speaker 8: times they're running the same plays that we defended and
• 14:02
  Speaker 8: then we're not defending them with discipline. And I'm speaking
• 14:05
  Speaker 8: about our defense because that's what you asked. You know,
• 14:09
  Speaker 8: for example, they ran a sprint out with a hitch
• 14:11
  Speaker 8: and a corner route and we're in quarters and the
• 14:13
  Speaker 8: corner is supposed to sink. That's day one install. You
• 14:16
  Speaker 8: do it all the time and he doesn't. He sits
• 14:19
  Speaker 8: on the hitch and now the corner is open and
• 14:21
  Speaker 8: It's a principle of the coverage. You play high to low.
• 14:24
  Speaker 8: And so we're not executing. And so as coaches, we
• 14:28
  Speaker 8: got to get that done. You know, we got to
• 14:30
  Speaker 8: do a better job on defense and getting our kids
• 14:31
  Speaker 8: to execute in the second half. And I wish I
• 14:35
  Speaker 8: could tell you that we're getting out adjusted because, you know,
• 14:40
  Speaker 8: that's not what's happening. I mean, it's like the week
• 14:42
  Speaker 8: before Louisville runs split zone, like the most basic run
• 14:45
  Speaker 8: play known to man. And we've probably run 1,000 reps
• 14:49
  Speaker 8: of defense against that run because we have it on offense.
• 14:52
  Speaker 8: And it pops for a touchdown. And so, you know,
• 14:55
  Speaker 8: it's basic things. It's fundamentals. It's not pressing and doing
• 14:59
  Speaker 8: your job. And it's really frustrating.
• 15:04
  Speaker 3: Sounds like somebody is blaming the players and not taking
• 15:08
  Speaker 3: any blame on the coaches. Oh, they're just running the
• 15:11
  Speaker 3: same stuff in the second half. We just don't execute.
• 15:14
  Speaker 3: We just can't stop it. I wish I could tell
• 15:16
  Speaker 3: you we were getting out-adjusted.
• 15:17
  Speaker 4: Really? Is that what you wish?
• 15:20
  Speaker 3: You wish you could tell everybody that every other coaching
• 15:23
  Speaker 3: staff is completely taking us to the cleaners as the
• 15:26
  Speaker 3: game goes on.
• 15:27
  Speaker 4: None of that is you.
• 15:29
  Speaker 2: Everything they do, Bone, the opponents in the second half,
• 15:32
  Speaker 2: when they kick your ass, is the same as the
• 15:34
  Speaker 2: first half.
• 15:34
  Speaker 4: I find that hard to believe.
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: We just gave credit to Beamer and Belichick for keeping
• 15:39
  Speaker 2: things together internally during down times. Dave Doran right now, Matt,
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: doesn't seem like that's the same thing. Remember CJ Bailey's
• 15:47
  Speaker 2: mom and the whole blame thing at the end of
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: the Vanderbilt game? It doesn't feel like they are all
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: moving in the same direction. Locker room, coaches, and when
• 15:57
  Speaker 2: that starts to happen repeatedly, you're losing the locker room,
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: you're losing the fan base. I do think the end
• 16:03
  Speaker 2: of Dave Doran is near. Matt, how about the total
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: scores in just the Virginia-Wake Forest games? They've been outscored
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: 72-22 in those two games alone this year. Against Wake
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: and Virginia, when you think about those programs, who they are,
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: NC State should be beating and competitive, at least, with
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: those programs, 72-22 in those two games right there.
• 16:25
  Speaker 4: And Virginia, we found, that isn't any good.
• 16:27
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: By the way, Mac, SI right now does have, in
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: their latest playoff projections, Wake Forest as a playoff team.
• 16:35
  Speaker 4: Playoff team? Playoff?
• 16:36
  Speaker 3: They have them as the 11th seed overall. That's crazy
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: to me. No offense, big fans, but that's crazy to me. Hey,
• 16:43
  Speaker 3: I'm just glad they got ranked. I'm just glad they
• 16:45
  Speaker 3: got ranked. As far as Dave Doran goes, Bone, you
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: sit here and you compare them to a Wake team
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: that just obliterated you, and you look at their funds
• 16:54
  Speaker 3: versus yours. And then you go, like, you look at
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: what Jake Dickert is doing, too. A brand-new coach there.
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: Look at what he's doing at Wake. If you're a
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: State fan, how do you not look at Dave Dorn
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: and say, I'd like to try to get our Jake Dickert, right?
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: You've done good stuff, Dave, but we've seen all you've got.
• 17:12
  Speaker 4: Right. Yeah.
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: And, and, and then look at Duke again, I know
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: Duke lost bone, but I'm looking at this athletic article
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: about the member. They did all the research on the
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: football budgets for all the schools, FBS schools. Duke is
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: the second lowest budget in FBS football, 12 to 15 million,
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: according to the athletic NC state is up there, 22
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: to 26 million, double the budget. And look at the
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: difference between the two football teams. Like, I'm sorry, man.
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: It's an indictment on Dave Doran. The way they play
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: in the second half is an indictment on Dave Doran.
• 17:45
  Speaker 4: And I don't know if the locker room's turning. I
• 17:46
  Speaker 4: don't know about all that. I'm not in there.
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: But I do know that this is the second time
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: he did it with C.J. Bailey after the Vandy game,
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: where his first inclination after the game, when asked a
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: tough question, is not to take on accountability himself or
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: the staff, is to blame college kids.
• 18:02
  Speaker 4: I don't like that crap, man. I don't like that
• 18:05
  Speaker 4: crap at all.
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: So I'd be I'd be shocked if state fans, if
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: y'all are out there listening, tell me how you feel.
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: I would be shocked if today's state fans. in their
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: minds are not done with this.
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: I also want to point out that the next coaching cycles,
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: the next few off seasons will be very interesting about
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: who some of the schools can attract because with the
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: uncertain future Mac of the ACC, our coach is going
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: to want to run to some schools where they might
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: not be knowing what their future is, what the conference,
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: but I'm not talking about the Clemsons and Miami's and
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: all that.
• 18:38
  Speaker 4: I'm talking about those schools that are.
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: Not linked to possibly leaving the Do coaches say, yeah,
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: I'd love to go there, but I don't know what
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: this program or what this conference may look like. Very
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: interesting coaching cycles back, I think, coming up in the
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: next few off seasons, even for a team like NC State.
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I said, Philly, you still have to try. No, no, absolutely.
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: You still have to try to find, again, Jake Dickert
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: went to Wake. You know, like you can get a
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: good coach there.
• 19:03
  Speaker 4: When we come back, Jim Zoki, Panther Radio Network.
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: Sports Radio 92.7 WFNZ. Mack and Bone with you. I
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: want everybody to know that the view from the booth
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: does not take a bye week off, ladies and gentlemen.
• 19:43
  Speaker 4: That's right. Much to the chagrin of some. You seem
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: very upset about that.
• 19:47
  Speaker 7: No.
• 19:47
  Speaker 4: Gosh, no.
• 19:49
  Speaker 7: We've got to get our reps in.
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: Jim Zoki.
• 19:51
  Speaker 7: We've got to get our reps in.
• 19:51
  Speaker 4: DBO. Here, baby.
• 19:53
  Speaker 7: Don't beat ourselves.
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: Where was that memo for half the, or probably over
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: half the NFC East Jets?
• 20:01
  Speaker 4: Jim Zoki's got a no days off mentality.
• 20:04
  Speaker 7: Related fully to Matt Rule, don't beat anybody in the
• 20:07
  Speaker 7: top 25. Like ever.
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: Ah!
• 20:10
  Speaker 4: Zoke comes in firing, baby.
• 20:11
  Speaker 7: Well, we got that extra rest. We're extra rested for it.
• 20:14
  Speaker 4: I like it.
• 20:14
  Speaker 7: We've got extra little snarkiness.
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: Oh, we're here for it.
• 20:18
  Speaker 7: Yeah, we're here for it.
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: We are here. And he's got his Guardians hat on, Bone.
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: He's feeling it.
• 20:22
  Speaker 7: It's not often I get to wear the Guardians hat
• 20:24
  Speaker 7: this late into the season. We usually check into the
• 20:26
  Speaker 7: wildcard round and then exit. We skip the wildcard round.
• 20:30
  Speaker 7: And somehow, for those of you looking for a team
• 20:32
  Speaker 7: to root for, because we're down to the Final Four,
• 20:35
  Speaker 7: welcome aboard to the bandwagon. I'll tell you two things. One,
• 20:38
  Speaker 7: we may not score another run. And secondly, we've not
• 20:41
  Speaker 7: won a World Series since 1948. So at your own caution,
• 20:44
  Speaker 7: if you want to join the Guardians... And the bandwagon.
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: I'm in, Zog. I'm on your side.
• 20:49
  Speaker 7: You've got Brewers, Dodgers, Rays.
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: I need you desperately, Zog, after what the Rays did
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: to my soul last week.
• 20:56
  Speaker 4: We have one more. Guards up. Is that what they're saying?
• 20:59
  Speaker 4: Guards up?
• 20:59
  Speaker 7: I don't even know. Is it guards ball, which means
• 21:02
  Speaker 7: we can't hit? We hope to pitch, but we can't hit.
• 21:06
  Speaker 5: Oh, man.
• 21:06
  Speaker 7: I just called it Cleveland, so I'm still getting used
• 21:08
  Speaker 7: to the name.
• 21:08
  Speaker 4: You called it Cleveland. You called the ECU win over rice.
• 21:15
  Speaker 7: I did not use a cooked rice. Thank you for that.
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: You did not use it?
• 21:18
  Speaker 7: I did post a picture, and this was factual, in
• 21:20
  Speaker 7: both the suite area and in the media area. They
• 21:24
  Speaker 7: had a giant bowl of rice in each place filled
• 21:27
  Speaker 7: with peas in it.
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: And I hate peas.
• 21:29
  Speaker 7: So it's just like. It was like, perfect. We're playing
• 21:31
  Speaker 7: rice and they're serving rice with peas in it.
• 21:35
  Speaker 4: Peas are horrible. I'm with you on that. Bushy green peas.
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: That goes back to my youth, man. I did not.
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: The peas got fed to the dog a lot when
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: I was growing up. Underneath the dinner table.
• 21:44
  Speaker 4: I did.
• 21:44
  Speaker 7: I would hide them in the mashed potatoes and just
• 21:47
  Speaker 7: in the napkins. I couldn't.
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: Napkin. That was another move I did.
• 21:50
  Speaker 7: Spread them around the plate.
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: Your thoughts on peas brought to you by QC Mechanical,
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: your original HVAC experts.
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: Does anybody, yes, ask the audience, does anybody actually like Pease?
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: I don't think I've met anybody that actually says, yay,
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: Pease are on the play.
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: For me, about two to three times a night. All right.
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: Well played.
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: I wanted to ask you about the ECU game. They
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: get down early second half.
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: Rice, I really feel like that was their vaulted running game,
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: really only ran it on that one drive, right, for
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: the touchdown.
• 22:21
  Speaker 7: It was four plays, 75 yards on the ground.
• 22:24
  Speaker 4: What in the?
• 22:25
  Speaker 7: Pirates had done so well up until that point.
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: And after that, I feel like they did.
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: They did.
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: Y'all just said, OK, you want to play that way?
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: It was three quick touchdowns, offense and defense both involved,
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: and they put that one away.
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: What do you think of this team as the season
• 22:38
  Speaker 4: goes on?
• 22:39
  Speaker 7: The defense is the star. They had two takeaways in
• 22:43
  Speaker 7: this game. Previous two games, they had touchdowns on takeaways
• 22:46
  Speaker 7: from safety, Aiden, and Duncanson. So the defense is keeping
• 22:50
  Speaker 7: the scores down, first of all. So they've won three
• 22:51
  Speaker 7: in a row, in large part, with that. And then secondly—
• 22:55
  Speaker 7: The passing game is still a work in progress with
• 22:57
  Speaker 7: the quarterbacks kind of getting ready. Emery Williams is looking
• 23:01
  Speaker 7: a little bit better every week. They had Mitch Griffiths
• 23:03
  Speaker 7: to begin the season. But T.J. Engelman has become the
• 23:06
  Speaker 7: star running back, and he's put up big numbers the
• 23:08
  Speaker 7: last couple of weeks. So I think the smart thing, obviously,
• 23:12
  Speaker 7: with a short week is to lean on that run game,
• 23:14
  Speaker 7: play at Alabama-Birmingham on Thursday night, back-to-back Thursday games, at
• 23:18
  Speaker 7: Memphis after that, which I think everyone believes to be
• 23:20
  Speaker 7: the best team in the American Conference. But they've got
• 23:23
  Speaker 7: all the components kind of. Every week, incrementally getting better
• 23:26
  Speaker 7: and better. And like a lot of group of five teams,
• 23:29
  Speaker 7: I mean, you've got to kind of put your offensive
• 23:31
  Speaker 7: line together every year. Basically, we have five new starters
• 23:34
  Speaker 7: this year. We had one carryover who was kind of
• 23:35
  Speaker 7: like the sixth man last year. So it's just, it
• 23:38
  Speaker 7: takes time to put all that stuff together as far
• 23:40
  Speaker 7: as gelling. This will be the halfway point of the
• 23:43
  Speaker 7: regular season. And I still feel like we're still trying
• 23:45
  Speaker 7: to figure out where they are because with today's college football,
• 23:48
  Speaker 7: especially that group of six level, it takes a while
• 23:51
  Speaker 7: to get chemistry and get things where you get kind
• 23:53
  Speaker 7: of a feel of what your team is going to
• 23:54
  Speaker 7: be about.
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: Zouk, on the pro football side yesterday, we had some
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: completely insane endings, and one includes the way that the
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: Eagles lost in London to Jacksonville. Eagles were already a
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: volatile mess going into that game, and then they lose
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: in that fashion. Nick Sirianni now. is under more fire
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: than he was before, they're banged up. But when you
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: look at the Eagles and what we want out of this,
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: did we want them coming in on a high and
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: feeling better, or did we want them like a wounded
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: animal like they are? I guess everybody's got a different
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: opinion on that.
• 24:25
  Speaker 7: Yeah, they were one second from being 3-2 instead of 2-3,
• 24:27
  Speaker 7: which feels completely different.
• 24:28
  Speaker 4: Went over a real good Jacksonville. They were so close
• 24:31
  Speaker 4: to that.
• 24:31
  Speaker 7: That's a long flight back from London, too.
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: Like, ah, one second.
• 24:35
  Speaker 7: Oh, it's miserable. But I tell you what, they— They're injured, obviously,
• 24:38
  Speaker 7: but I agree with you, Bon. I think, you know,
• 24:41
  Speaker 7: this is like back to the wall. Like, you're just
• 24:43
  Speaker 7: going to get every bit of everything out of Philadelphia
• 24:46
  Speaker 7: going on the road, and there's always tough. So, I mean,
• 24:48
  Speaker 7: they're going to be an edgy team, and they're going to,
• 24:51
  Speaker 7: you know, we'll see as the week goes on if
• 24:53
  Speaker 7: they can get Saquon Barkley back. Will Shipley left that game,
• 24:57
  Speaker 7: Weddington star with a foot injury. Devontae Smith, Hollywood Brown.
• 25:01
  Speaker 7: And then they depart with two different offensive linemen last week.
• 25:04
  Speaker 7: And the guy they had as their center, Drew Kendall,
• 25:06
  Speaker 7: wasn't even available to play this week. So we'll see
• 25:08
  Speaker 7: if they get him back this week, too. So especially
• 25:10
  Speaker 7: on the offensive side, they had a lot of injuries.
• 25:12
  Speaker 7: We feel sorry for nobody when we start talking about
• 25:14
  Speaker 7: injuries because we've been dealing with it probably as much
• 25:17
  Speaker 7: as anybody since the beginning of training camp as far
• 25:19
  Speaker 7: as fighting through injuries, which I think to me is
• 25:21
  Speaker 7: like really the story of the Panthers this year is
• 25:23
  Speaker 7: just the fact that they've played so well. hope to
• 25:26
  Speaker 7: get even better, but they're doing it so shorthanded and
• 25:28
  Speaker 7: just kind of putting it together right now.
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: I finally saw the chart bone that I knew had
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: to be fact on Friday. I forget who put it out,
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: but Panthers were at the top of the most like
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: games lost because of injury. And I'm like, I know
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: that has to be the case, but now I finally
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: saw it in writing. We're even ahead. of the power
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: station Niners. We're even ahead of them on injuries. Now, granted,
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: their injury-to-win ratio is pretty damn good in San Francisco.
• 25:54
  Speaker 7: Thank God we don't have a power station. I have
• 25:58
  Speaker 7: a train track. Does that do anything to him?
• 25:59
  Speaker 4: There's a theory. There is some sort of power station.
• 26:02
  Speaker 8: There is?
• 26:02
  Speaker 7: No, that's real.
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 26:03
  Speaker 7: It's real as far as people talk about it.
• 26:05
  Speaker 4: But here in Charlotte, people talk about it. Oh, you're
• 26:07
  Speaker 4: saying we do? Yeah.
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: Some Duke Energy power station. Or is that just BS?
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: I think it's the light rail. The light rail's causing
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: all these problems.
• 26:13
  Speaker 4: Is that what it is? Yeah, it's the.
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: The sparks of the track. Are they getting hit by
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: the light rail? Oh, the sparks of the track.
• 26:19
  Speaker 7: It could be our radio signal. We're not that far
• 26:21
  Speaker 7: away from the stadium.
• 26:22
  Speaker 4: Yeah, we're always blaming us for it. It's our radio signal.
• 26:25
  Speaker 7: It could be an FM radio signal that's doing this.
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: I'll say this. I'm sure we'll talk about this all week.
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: Canalis 0-2 after the bye week. Remember when Ron had the— that.
• 26:32
  Speaker 4: Was a more extended tour. That's right.
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: I was talking about Ron. They do have to look inward.
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: Ron did that. What are we doing off the bye weeks?
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: Is there anything we can cling to? But they need
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: to get a post-bye win. I will say this. I
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: love the NFC South.
• 26:45
  Speaker 4: I love it.
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: I want to hug it, and I want to kiss it.
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: Because yesterday, we saw it again.
• 26:50
  Speaker 7: Very romantic.
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: I didn't get too dirty there, Bo. We saw it
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: again yesterday. The New Orleans Saints offense completely shut down.
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: Tyler Shuck doesn't even have 100 yards passing against that
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: great Minnesota defense. And then we saw it last night
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: against Atlanta. They blow a lead. They lose in overtime.
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: Their run defense, which was number one statistically, gets run
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: all over. Maybe it's not as good as it looked.
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: Just like last year when they were at the top
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: of the defensive charts early in the season.
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: And by the end of the year they were not.
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: And Michael Penix got hurt again, and Tua still stinks
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: because he threw a horrible interception and the game. How
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: are you feeling about the teams around us in the
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: NFC South?
• 27:30
  Speaker 7: It's just like my Guardians. It's the American League Central.
• 27:33
  Speaker 7: It gives you your best chance. to win is the
• 27:35
  Speaker 7: NFC South. So whether it's the, the Panthers winning or
• 27:38
  Speaker 7: the rest of the division losing and about the time
• 27:40
  Speaker 7: we were ready to bury the Buccaneers, they get a win, uh,
• 27:43
  Speaker 7: back on Thursday. So it's like, you can't count anybody
• 27:46
  Speaker 7: out right now. I would still say as far as
• 27:47
  Speaker 7: beyond the Panthers, the team that has the most potential
• 27:50
  Speaker 7: is still Atlanta, uh, because they have been better with,
• 27:53
  Speaker 7: with panics out there. If they can resolve some of
• 27:54
  Speaker 7: the other issues they have end of game defense, obviously
• 27:57
  Speaker 7: was huge for them in the loss on Sunday night. But, uh, Yeah,
• 28:01
  Speaker 7: Tampa Bay doesn't seem, even with Baker, I just don't
• 28:04
  Speaker 7: feel like they, without Mike Evans, they just don't feel
• 28:06
  Speaker 7: like the same team anymore. So I don't think they're
• 28:08
  Speaker 7: probably the most volatile one. And we'll see. I'm not
• 28:11
  Speaker 7: going to count New Orleans out yet because they do
• 28:12
  Speaker 7: have a lot of, they've got a lot of good
• 28:14
  Speaker 7: talent there. But I think the Panthers, if they can
• 28:16
  Speaker 7: get healthier and get through the next, whatever it is now,
• 28:20
  Speaker 7: six weeks of getting the corners back out there, I
• 28:23
  Speaker 7: like the way it sets up as far as our
• 28:25
  Speaker 7: long-term projection for the season. It's such a dang long season.
• 28:28
  Speaker 7: We're only four games in to 17. So even though
• 28:30
  Speaker 7: we're missing some guys, there is some positive news. You know,
• 28:34
  Speaker 7: you get A-Chan back, it looks like. Sounds like some
• 28:37
  Speaker 7: positive momentum with.
• 28:37
  Speaker 4: Moten in turn. Morton, yeah.
• 28:39
  Speaker 7: Morton coming back. So we'll see, I guess, probably maybe
• 28:42
  Speaker 7: by as soon as today when I get some kind
• 28:44
  Speaker 7: of news out of Coach from that. We have Panther
• 28:46
  Speaker 7: talk today. Wednesday, of course, is the bigger day as
• 28:49
  Speaker 7: far as injury news goes. I'd love to get these
• 28:50
  Speaker 7: guys back.
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: Does Coach hit you with a, we'll tell everybody on
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: Wednesday on Panther Talk?
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: You should put Panther Talk on Wednesdays then. A little
• 28:56
  Speaker 4: more forthcoming.
• 28:57
  Speaker 7: I think they kind of stick to the script as
• 28:59
  Speaker 7: far as talking about, as far as on the program,
• 29:03
  Speaker 7: about what we can relate with that. But there's obviously,
• 29:08
  Speaker 7: we've got to be gaining on it as far as
• 29:09
  Speaker 7: the amount of time some of these guys have been out. Obviously,
• 29:12
  Speaker 7: A-chan for sure, but with some of the other guys
• 29:14
  Speaker 7: we'll see about.
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: Do you think once a year they should have a
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: Sunday that is... NFC South, NFC East Challenge Week. Where
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: they all play each other and we just watch absolute
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: chaos happen. But they play at like 10 o'clock in
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: the morning or something.
• 29:26
  Speaker 4: Yes, yes. On a weekday, I mean. It ends in
• 29:30
  Speaker 4: three ties. Two teams score 12.
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  Speaker 7: It's like Maction on a Tuesday.
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  Speaker 3: No, I'll go to Bone. One of Bone's lines. They're
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: going to put that on Gas Station TV. You've got
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: to go to Gas Pumps to watch it there.
• 29:43
  Speaker 4: I'm telling you, man, I'm.
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: Working on a case that our division might not be
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: the worst, thanks to the NCEs.
• 29:48
  Speaker 7: The NCEs just made a case for it.
• 29:50
  Speaker 4: Take it a while. At least the Giants and Commanders
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: didn't play a weird game at all.
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: Zoke, multiple texters pointing out that there is a substation
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: near the practice field, Zoke.
• 30:03
  Speaker 4: All these 30-plus years. That's why you get away-headed every day.
• 30:06
  Speaker 7: I tore my Achilles walking in here.
• 30:10
  Speaker 4: That must be it. All right, Zoke, you're the man.
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  Speaker 5: Thank you, sir.
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  Speaker 7: Good luck this week.
• 30:14
  Speaker 4: There you go. That bye week one was fun.
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: There was no pressure this week, and we got to
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: watch two division rivals lose.
• 30:19
  Speaker 4: We should do more bye weeks. We said it last year.
• 30:23
  Speaker 4: We'll say it again. The best way to win the
• 30:27
  Speaker 4: NFC South is do not play. That's right.
• 30:29
  Speaker 7: Watch the other teams play. Watch them go backwards.
• 30:33
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Can we just pass? Hey, we got a game
• 30:36
  Speaker 4: this week. We're going to pass. Let our rivals play.
• 30:39
  Speaker 4: You should have one pass week. Yeah, we're not in
• 30:40
  Speaker 4: this week. I was thinking more like six. Actually, no,
• 30:43
  Speaker 4: I shouldn't do that.
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: When we come back, college football conclusions, including App State
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: losing and getting the ultimate disrespect after the game.
• 30:53
  Speaker 4: I'll explain. Sports Radio 92.7 WFNZ.
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: Sports Radio 92.7 WFNZ, Mack and Bone with you. Time
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: for a little college football conclusions, Bone.
• 31:23
  Speaker 4: It could be offbeat. It could be silly.
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: It could be a serious college football point that you
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: are dying to wow the audience with. And feel free
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: to share your conclusions, things you noticed and learned this
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: weekend in the world.
• 31:36
  Speaker 4: Of college football. We learned that Shane Beamer is alive.
• 31:40
  Speaker 4: He is alive.
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: But what else did we learn, Bone? What do you
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: got over there? We learned that App State, Matt, got
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: a double whammy. Not only did they lose at home
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: to an under 500 Old Dominion squad, only scored three
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: points in the game. After the game, Matt, they got
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: embarrassed further. When ODU head coach, we think his name
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: is pronounced back, Ricky Ronnie?
• 31:59
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: Did the mudslide down the hill shirtless right after the
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: win there. Matt, you lost or three points in the
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: opposing coach. is mudsliding at your stadium shirtless. That's a
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: rough day for App State. It looks like you've done
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: that before, I believe, after a youth soccer game. Every
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: time it's storming, and that was some of the worst weather.
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: I was just telling Nick, who's an App State fan,
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: he was at the game, said it was miserable out there.
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: I said, I think of all the games that I watch,
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: I think y'all might have had the worst weather. like
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: it was just like that had to be a huge
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: reason why malachi singleton was five a freaking 23 um
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: and odu was able to run it better than app
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: but um i look at that and i'm like i
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: 100 if i went to app state would be would
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: be you know pre-gaming and probably in the state of
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: mind just to throw myself down a muddy hill about
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: 16 times during the game like the kids do you'd
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: be back to it's all game now i did see
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: a thread back of some upstate upstate upset app fans
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: that wanted the coaching staff to go fight him after
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: the game because of the disrespect of the mudslide is
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: he not ridiculous of a fight would that be like
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: hey you don't slide on mud our stadium.
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: Pal is he not free to slide down the hill
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: like the game's over is he not free to go
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: slide down a muddy hill if he chooses to.
• 33:17
  Speaker 4: Like god like i don't know if you're gonna fight
• 33:19
  Speaker 4: over that i feel.
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: Like that goes into the category of touchdown dances you
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: don't want them to touchdown dance on your hiney then
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: don't let them beat you you don't want them to
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: slide down your muddy hill don't let them beat you.
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: Oh by the way when the panthers beat the eagles
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: on sunday we're gonna need a hill and some mud.
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: Oh my god man all right so I have to, Bone,
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: talk about our guy Bryce back in Bama as the
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: guest picker on game day. Bryce with a couple of
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: nice upset picks. He's the only dude on set, or
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: maybe one of two, that had the UCLA upset pick
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: over Oregon. He called it, Nick Saban called him a
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: homer for picking the California team, but he nailed it.
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: He got the UNC upset, Bo, so he saw that
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: one coming. He then was involved in a situation at
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: the end of the show when McAfee picked Georgia where
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: Bryce and Nick Saban, the hooligans they are, threw McAfee
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: to the ground in a scene where that I am
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: positive could not have been scripted at all, Boney.
• 34:16
  Speaker 4: Not at all. That punch really landed some excitement.
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: And it needs to be mentioned that the Bryce mania
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: of the national media continues tonight. He will be a
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: guest on the Manning cast with Peyton and Eli tonight.
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: Is it possible, Bone, that Bryce is now being overexposed?
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: They have talked to him more in a month, more
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: with him and about him in a month or in
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: a week. than they had his previous three-year career.
• 34:45
  Speaker 4: It's crazy.
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: Is he about to get the Panther fan cam treatment?
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: This guy better be ready in his playbook for the
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: game on Sunday. You know, if Cam Mack did too
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: many things, they'd get on him about this. Is someone
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: going to turn on Bryce and say, enough TV, you
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: better get in the lab and worry about.
• 35:00
  Speaker 4: The Eagles on Sunday? Do you think so?
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: Someone's going to say it. You think someone's going to
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: say it? You've been having too much fun. And his
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: name is Mr.
• 35:08
  Speaker 4: Bop.
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: Matt, Kentucky has been fined $ 500, 000 by the SEC for
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: the field storm the other day, and all that money
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: goes to LSU. Do you think they care, Matt, about
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: having to pay that fine to LSU? Also, we'll bring
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: this up again, during the field storm, LSU brings a
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: basketball turnover hoop to the sidelines. Kentucky fans were dunking
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: all over that hoop on their way to the field,
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: including they stole the basketball.
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, reportedly then stole the dang basketball and made off
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: with it as well.
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: It's always hoop season in Kentucky, though. They saw that hoop, Mac,
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: and they're like, we got to get to that hoop. Bro,
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: how about freaking Will Stein, dude? That dude, and I
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: knew it.
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: The second they scored that touchdown in overtime, I said,
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: he's doing it again.
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: They're going for two, and they get it. They win
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: the exact same way by the exact same score back-to-back
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: weeks in overtime. I had Kentucky on the money line
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: in that game, so I was excited that day.
• 36:07
  Speaker 4: You were enjoying that. I enjoyed it.
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: Also, CBSSports.com right now has Kentucky as a playoff team.
• 36:13
  Speaker 4: How about that? Interesting.
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: Some interesting playoff teams on some of these things that
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: you are seeing. Will Stein. Can we play this moment
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: from the press? This was his press conference at SEC
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: Media Days. First of all, Will Stein looks like he's 12.
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: So you look at him and you're like, how's this
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: dude a leader of young men?
• 36:33
  Speaker 4: But he is. He's unfreaking believable.
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: If you're a Kentucky fan, you've got to be so
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: excited about the present and the future with this dude.
• 36:39
  Speaker 4: And I've got to stop saying, Bone, what have they proved?
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: I've got to just embrace the fact that this dude's
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: the real deal and this Kentucky team's good.
• 36:45
  Speaker 4: But listen to Will Stein. Was this his Cignetti moment?
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: Remember when Cignetti said when he got hired, multiple moments,
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: but he said, I win, Google me, when he got
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: hired at Indiana. And everybody's like, what's this dude talking about?
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: Listen to Will Stein, SEC media days. People thought, what
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: is this dude crazy?
• 37:03
  Speaker 4: Listen to this.
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: Historically, it's fought against the narrative, against perception.
• 37:08
  Speaker 4: Why do you think you can win big here?
• 37:13
  Speaker 8: This is going to sound like really, I think because
• 37:21
  Speaker 8: of me, to be honest.
• 37:23
  Speaker 4: Because of me. He said that and people are like,
• 37:26
  Speaker 4: this dude thinks because of him? How arrogant is he?
• 37:29
  Speaker 4: He thinks he can win in the mighty SEC. Look
• 37:31
  Speaker 4: at this dude, man.
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: He's doing the job in such a different personality than
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: what Mark Stoops was, right? Mark Stoops won, but he
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: did it in a certain kind of an ugly way.
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: He wasn't the most personable guy. Kentucky's now got a
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: guy that they're going to love, that guy, for a long,
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: long time.
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: Grew up in Lexington as a diehard Kentucky fan, so
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: he's one of them, man.
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: Mag, I saw a thread on social media of– I
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: don't know if it was some Karens or how to
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: describe them. People upset at Kalen DeBoer for going after
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: the DB the other day and yelling at him on
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: the sidelines because that's not how you treat people on
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: national television. And then other people were saying– It's a
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: player and a coach. What are we doing here? Mack,
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: any problems, Mack, with a player getting yelled at on
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: the sidelines? Heck, we smoking now, man. You ain't allowed
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: to yell at a dude that gets a dumb penalty
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: that ends the game.
• 38:24
  Speaker 4: You ain't allowed to yell at him immediately.
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: Wait until it's in a quiet environment.
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: And Alabama fans, we never saw Nick Saban yell at
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: people on the sidelines, ever. Nick Saban I saw one
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: time choking a player with a headset. Please tell me
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: that was like two upset Karens.
• 38:39
  Speaker 4: Please.
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: I'd still call my eye, though. What would they have thought, Bone,
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: about Kirby Smart's pregame speech?
• 38:44
  Speaker 4: Oh, that's the pearl-clutching moment of the weekend.
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: If y'all have not heard this, this is absolutely amazing.
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: As someone that grew up for a coach that screamed
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: at him a lot.
• 38:56
  Speaker 4: I absolutely love this. You have to find this.
• 38:59
  Speaker 3: Now, you can't play this at work because he is
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: bleeping and bleeping. But I absolutely love that speech bone.
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: And I'm telling you, my old out of shape behind
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: could give you a couple of good downs if I
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: got screamed at that way about what we're going to
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: do to Alabama. And by the way, his transition from
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: praying to mother bleeping the tide was so quick.
• 39:22
  Speaker 4: I respect it totally. It's amazing. And it's going viral.
• 39:25
  Speaker 4: Y'all got to check it out, man. Oh, yeah, it is.
• 39:28
  Speaker 4: It's on. I've I've. learned to really grow.
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: Obviously, he coaches a team I don't root for, but
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: when he first started years ago, I thought, well, he's
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: trying hard to be the next Saban. Is he just
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: doing everything he learned from Saban, and then he learned
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: over time?
• 39:44
  Speaker 7: No.
• 39:45
  Speaker 4: He's his own man. He does a lot of it
• 39:47
  Speaker 4: from Saban.
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: He does, but at first it was like, is he
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: just cosplaying Saban?
• 39:51
  Speaker 4: And then over time you realize, no, this dude's his
• 39:53
  Speaker 4: own man. Did you say that while he had two titles?
• 39:55
  Speaker 4: Were you still saying that?
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: No, I'm saying when he was emerging as the coach
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: he became, I thought, oh, he's really just kind of
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: emulating a lot of Saban. But then you realize, well,
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: that's just who he is, but he's also his own man.
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: And I do respect that. Kirby Smart is a football
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: guy's football guy. That's well said, Boney. That is well said,
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: my friend. When we come back here on the Mac
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: and Bone radio program on this Monday edition of the show,
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: what stuck out the most to us about week five
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: in the NFL? As we sat on the couch during
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: the Panther bye week, we got two rivals losing and
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: two NFC East teams that just puked their guts out
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: at the end of the game.
• 40:38
  Speaker 4: Sports Radio 92.7 WFNZ.