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Chuck in the Morning 9/7 H3: MMQB with Hugh MIllen · Chuck in the Morning

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  Speaker 1: And the Apple Cup's already over. I know. Wait, does
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  Speaker 1: that mean that all of football season's over? No, no, no.
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  Speaker 1: Just beginning. Oh, okay.
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  Speaker 2: Just beginning.
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  Speaker 1: That was very weird. Yeah. Very odd. Great morning to
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  Speaker 1: you all. Happy Monday. Happy Labor Day. Yes, we are
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  Speaker 1: doing a live radio show all day long here at
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  Speaker 1: Sports Radio 93.3 KJRFM, celebrating the holiday, celebrating labor right
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  Speaker 1: here on Sports Radio 93.3 KJRFM. And we are also
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  Speaker 1: launching our Factor Fiction as well. We've already given out
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  Speaker 1: the first pick. That was at 735 this morning. It'll
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  Speaker 1: be the morning show's slot for Factor Fiction throughout the year,
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  Speaker 1: and that is at 735. Apparently, we already have run
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  Speaker 1: into the you're not getting the bounce back receipts that
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  Speaker 1: you typically get. Again, we don't know why that happens.
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  Speaker 1: If we did, we would have fixed that because we
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  Speaker 1: don't want to deal with the frustration. But I don't
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  Speaker 1: know why. Um, sometimes you don't get the bounce backs.
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  Speaker 1: Today's one of those days, but that does not mean
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  Speaker 1: that we did not get your pick. So we got
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  Speaker 1: your picks. You just didn't get a receipt. Yeah. We
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  Speaker 1: got your picks and we know you're not getting the
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  Speaker 1: bounce back. So you also don't need to text it
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  Speaker 1: and tell us you're not getting a bounce back, but
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  Speaker 1: all is good. All is good. And we've been doing
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  Speaker 1: this long enough and we've had this little snafu long enough, uh,
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  Speaker 1: that we know, uh, that we, uh, we have all
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  Speaker 1: the picks, uh, And your fact or fiction prediction is
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  Speaker 1: part of the record. Yes. All right. We've got a
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  Speaker 1: special Monday morning quarterback session here today. Joining us now
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  Speaker 1: is our QB1 to talk some Apple Cup. He's been
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  Speaker 1: in a couple of these here in the past. It's
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  Speaker 1: Hugh Millen joining us here. on the radio program. Good morning, sir.
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  Speaker 1: Good morning. Great to be with you. Do you always,
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  Speaker 1: every apple cup, just kind of put on your old, uh,
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  Speaker 1: you know, Jersey and just walk around the house in it? Uh,
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  Speaker 1: not at all. Um, you know, I, I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: We're going to call this the apple cup because I
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  Speaker 2: think there's a lot of entities that benefit from it.
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  Speaker 2: You know, you paint it on the field and I'm
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  Speaker 2: sure there's money to be had for that. But, but I,
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  Speaker 2: In my own mind, I think if the Apple Cup
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  Speaker 2: isn't dead, it's at least in a coma. And let
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  Speaker 2: me defend that proposition. If you go back to the
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  Speaker 2: history of the Apple Cup, we all know that Washington
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  Speaker 2: State has a lot of– they have elements of their
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  Speaker 2: university that are– are not to the level of Washington.
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  Speaker 2: And so it, it, it's competitively imbalanced through the years, right?
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  Speaker 2: I don't think anybody would dispute that. I would also
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  Speaker 2: credit Washington state for playing above their, their, uh, their
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  Speaker 2: means in many ways. I mean, hell, they got four quarterbacks, uh,
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  Speaker 2: drafted in, in the top three picks of the first round. Uh,
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  Speaker 2: Washington doesn't have any in the top five. So they've
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  Speaker 2: in a lot, in a lot of ways they've outperformed,
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  Speaker 2: but The imbalance now, when you consider that Washington has
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  Speaker 2: five to six times the NIL money, before when the
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  Speaker 2: Apple Cup, yeah, there was an imbalance, but at least
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  Speaker 2: Washington State was saying, hey, our scholarship check is the
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  Speaker 2: same as Washington's. You're playing in the same conference. And
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  Speaker 2: so there was at least something of a fair fight.
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  Speaker 2: And even at that, other than Oklahoma State, there's a
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  Speaker 2: bigger imbalance in the Apple Cup than in any other
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  Speaker 2: traditional rivalry. So now you've got the only school now
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  Speaker 2: where a traditional rivalry... Now, there's been others that I'm
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  Speaker 2: not going to get into the history of college football.
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  Speaker 2: There's others that have dropped down a conference, but then
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  Speaker 2: now have climbed back up to the same conference. To
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  Speaker 2: my knowledge... Tell me if I'm wrong. This is the
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  Speaker 2: only traditional rivalry where one team is in a power
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  Speaker 2: four school and the other team is in a group
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  Speaker 2: of five. And so I don't know. I just look
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  Speaker 2: at the Pac-12. They call it the Pac-12, but you
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  Speaker 2: could call a Beagle a Rottweiler. That doesn't make it so.
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  Speaker 2: It's not the Pac-12. It's Washington State and Oregon State. which,
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  Speaker 2: by the way, the Pac-8 came into existence in 1968
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  Speaker 2: and then dissolved in 2023. The team, the losingest team
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  Speaker 2: in the history of the conference is Oregon State at 380.
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  Speaker 2: The second losingest team is Washington State at 450 win percentage.
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  Speaker 2: So you take the two losingest schools in the history
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  Speaker 2: of the Pac-12, combine them with a bunch of Mountain
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  Speaker 2: West teams, and then throw in Texas State, who was
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  Speaker 2: in the Sun Belt, who used to be called, they
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  Speaker 2: were a directional school. They were Southwest Texas. And so
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  Speaker 2: now you're going to call that the Pac-12 and somehow
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  Speaker 2: tell me this is the Apple Cup? Look, to me,
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  Speaker 2: in my opinion, this is more like the Apple Stem Cup.
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  Speaker 2: There's a portion of an Apple Seed Cup. And so, look,
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  Speaker 2: I understand it benefits Washington to bark about winning the
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  Speaker 2: Apple Cup, but I think that, you know, in a way,
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  Speaker 2: I understand where Cougars are like, hey, I'm losing interest
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  Speaker 2: in this because it was already– A tough fight before. Right.
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  Speaker 2: Now it's just a level of absurdity and unmatched. So
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  Speaker 2: at any event, I don't think that there's a lot
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  Speaker 2: of pride that Washington should be taking from this. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: you line it up, you play, it's an opponent, you
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  Speaker 2: should win. They are a team from a group of five,
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  Speaker 2: and there's not much more to it to me.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. And yet at 10, 15 left in the fourth quarter,
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  Speaker 1: it was a three point game. Um, at four 30,
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  Speaker 1: it was a seven point game in the fourth quarter. So, uh,
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  Speaker 1: the game itself, um, I mean, there are a lot
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  Speaker 1: of different angles obviously that we can take, but what's
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  Speaker 1: the first one for you that tells the story of
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  Speaker 1: this game yesterday?
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  Speaker 2: Well, obviously the defense and we can, we can highlight
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  Speaker 2: the defense. They deserve to be, uh, lauded. Um, You
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  Speaker 2: go back to two years ago, and Washington State was playing.
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  Speaker 2: They had John Mateer, and now you get this kid
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  Speaker 2: from UC Davis. So that just underscores where they are,
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  Speaker 2: the Cougars, offensively. But I think for Washington, a year ago,
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  Speaker 2: Washington went into Pullman, scored 59 points. They were 8
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  Speaker 2: of 9 on third and fourth down conversions. This is
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  Speaker 2: a year ago. Yesterday, they were 4 of 14 in
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  Speaker 2: third and fourth down. At Pullman last year, they scored
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  Speaker 2: touchdowns on their first three drives, then kicked a field goal,
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  Speaker 2: and then scored touchdowns on their last four drives. They
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  Speaker 2: had essentially eight drives, and they scored on all of them,
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  Speaker 2: and they were seven of eight on touchdowns. Now, technically,
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  Speaker 2: they had one drive at the end where they took
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  Speaker 2: a knee, so it was nine drives. Yesterday, the first
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  Speaker 2: nine drives, playing at home, which should be a more
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  Speaker 2: imbalanced roster. And with Kirby Moore in year one, Washington
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  Speaker 2: had nine drives, one touchdown, one field. So I think
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  Speaker 2: that you could say that, I mean, if you're a
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  Speaker 2: Cougar fan, you'd say defensively a huge improvement from a
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  Speaker 2: year ago, which means from a Washington perspective, certainly a letdown.
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  Speaker 2: And yet, As you point out, the fourth quarter was
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  Speaker 2: really impressive. A lot of big-time football, but a lot
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  Speaker 2: of big-time playmaking on the offense and with DeMond Williams. But,
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  Speaker 2: you know, a lot of just, you know, just kind
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  Speaker 2: of stagnant, stuck, you know, just the details. The details, Chuck,
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  Speaker 2: I've been studying this damn tape for hours, including this morning,
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  Speaker 2: and every single play, all of the mistakes, There's detail problems.
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  Speaker 1: Give us an example.
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  Speaker 2: Well, okay, the touchdown or the last play of the
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  Speaker 2: second quarter, everybody remembers that. That prompts the head coach
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  Speaker 2: to throw his head down.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, fourth and one. This is embarrassing is what Coach
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  Speaker 1: Fish said, not being able to get one yard. Fourth
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  Speaker 1: and goal from the one, went for it, and got stuffed. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: so details.
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  Speaker 2: So they're running inside zone, split zone, which means that
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  Speaker 2: you've got the tight end in what's called the sniffer position.
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  Speaker 2: He lines up right behind the tackle. That is a
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  Speaker 2: common term in football. That's not my term. You could
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  Speaker 2: go to any football coaching convention, high school, college, or pro.
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  Speaker 2: You can use the term sniffer, and you get away
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  Speaker 2: with it. Now you can use your imagination why he's
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  Speaker 2: called the sniffer, but he's going to come across the formation,
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  Speaker 2: and you're going to run the inside zone right. you're
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  Speaker 2: essentially going over right guard. If you're going to do
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  Speaker 2: it from shotgun, where your quarterback's heels are at five yards,
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  Speaker 2: then the running back, if you're going to be at
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  Speaker 2: the goal line, generally the running back is going to
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  Speaker 2: be to the left because going from the left behind
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  Speaker 2: the left guard, going over right guard, it's a straight
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  Speaker 2: line and you could hit it faster and you can
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  Speaker 2: have a straight line. When you line up the running
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  Speaker 2: back to the right, he has to start to the
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  Speaker 2: left and then slow down his momentum. and and then restart,
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  Speaker 2: and then there's a portion. Now, Washington didn't block it well.
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  Speaker 2: The Mike linebacker for Washington State gets unblocked. It's as
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  Speaker 2: if he was wearing an invisible juice or drank invisible juice.
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  Speaker 2: Nobody thought to block the middle linebacker. But if you
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  Speaker 2: line him up, What's that?
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  Speaker 1: Can you get some of that? I'd like to try that.
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  Speaker 1: Wouldn't that be cool? Yeah, it'd be great. It would
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  Speaker 1: create all kinds of, man, you could really creep. Is
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  Speaker 1: that available? Can I grab that at Safeway? Well, you
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  Speaker 1: know what?
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  Speaker 2: Ask the Mike linebacker for Washington State because apparently he
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  Speaker 2: drank it because nobody had a thought to block the
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  Speaker 2: middle linebacker. And yet there's a point where you say
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  Speaker 2: you're getting the double team with the center and the
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  Speaker 2: right guard. And, uh, uh, uh, because you're going inside,
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  Speaker 2: that's the point of attack inside the right guard. And
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  Speaker 2: so there's a point there where you say, even though you,
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  Speaker 2: you don't block the Mike linebacker, you get with a
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  Speaker 2: big back that they had there, um, that you're gonna,
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  Speaker 2: you're gonna plow in and get the touchdown, but you're, um, with, uh,
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  Speaker 2: Jaden Lamar, um, But you're not going to get it
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  Speaker 2: when you line up. A, when you go shotgun instead
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  Speaker 2: of under center because that's going to slow things down already.
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  Speaker 2: But then when you put the running back on the
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  Speaker 2: right side and make him do counter steps instead of
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  Speaker 2: plunge steps, that's enough. So, you know, maybe the coach
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  Speaker 2: was throwing his headset because he realized he drew.
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  Speaker 1: Up a play with poor detail. Hmm. I mean, we
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  Speaker 1: can be here all night. Well, there was another fourth
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  Speaker 1: and one play later, and they were 0-2 on fourth
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  Speaker 1: down in the game, and it really blew up. Williams
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  Speaker 1: had nowhere to throw, no time to throw. They decided
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  Speaker 1: to try to throw the ball, maybe roll him out,
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  Speaker 1: and it just looked like an absolute mess. What went
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  Speaker 1: wrong on that play?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you're going sprint left, and you get into a
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  Speaker 2: bunch formation, and so you're trying to get some rubs
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  Speaker 2: where you've got the tight end is the innermost of
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  Speaker 2: three guys in a bunch.
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  Speaker 1: You generally have a point guy.
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  Speaker 2: It looks like a triangle, and Washington had that. And
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  Speaker 2: so they get the nice rub. The tight end's open, but– Apparently,
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  Speaker 2: and they showed it from multiple angles, I have no
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  Speaker 2: hesitation to offer this. DeMond just didn't like the vision.
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  Speaker 2: The end was up the field, and if you just
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  Speaker 2: kind of stop and you say, okay, what's he seen
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  Speaker 2: from his level? He didn't like the picture because the
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  Speaker 2: guy's up in his face. I still think that he
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  Speaker 2: had enough depth. I know this, the NFL would look
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  Speaker 2: at that and say, dude, throw the freaking ball. The
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  Speaker 2: tight ends open the flat. Like if they're scouting them,
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  Speaker 2: there's nobody's going to give him a break on that.
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  Speaker 2: And so he just missed, you know, that was a
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  Speaker 2: well-designed play. Got the tight end open.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: I understand you're not six foot five, but you still
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  Speaker 2: have to throw that ball. And so he ends up
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  Speaker 2: turning down the tight end in the flat and And
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  Speaker 2: then there's a corner out that was developing down the field.
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  Speaker 2: He holds up, gets his arm hit, and it's just
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  Speaker 2: a complete mess. But there was enough there that the
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  Speaker 2: quarterback needs to execute and you get the first down.
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  Speaker 1: So in general, the offense did not get going until
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  Speaker 1: the fourth quarter. Why?
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  Speaker 2: Well, I don't think that they had any real dynamic
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  Speaker 2: running game. I mean, they They did mostly their zone.
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  Speaker 2: They tried a lot of inside zone and outside zone.
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  Speaker 2: They couldn't really get to the perimeter, couldn't really gas
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  Speaker 2: anything from the inside. Their best runs were on what's
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  Speaker 2: called gap scheme and counter, particularly to the left side.
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  Speaker 2: They had a nice counter to the left down in
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  Speaker 2: the red zone going to the goal line, but you
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  Speaker 2: didn't really get a lot of explosive plays. The running
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  Speaker 2: backs averaged under four yards per attempt. Wasn't it 3.6?
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  Speaker 2: I know it was under four. Um, and so, so
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  Speaker 2: you can kind of start there. I think that, um,
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  Speaker 2: you know, demand for through three quarters was very inconsistent.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, he, you know, on an RPO, um, pass
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  Speaker 2: early on, which is, you know, you're going to call
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  Speaker 2: inside zone, but if you, if you got a guy
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  Speaker 2: in the flat, uh, which he had, you don't throw
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  Speaker 2: it to him, but he dirts the ball. Um, you know,
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  Speaker 2: he had, he had play action passes where, He had,
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  Speaker 2: you know, just basic, simple, just double deep curls. You know,
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  Speaker 2: it's a stop route, so you don't have to be
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  Speaker 2: dynamically accurate. And, you know, he turns down a completion there,
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  Speaker 2: you know, because, you know, he's conservative. He gets the
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  Speaker 2: check down for, you know, four or five yard gain,
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  Speaker 2: but that's not why Jed Fisk called that play.
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  Speaker 1: He wants a shot. He wants to go get, you know, 16,
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  Speaker 1: 18 yards down the field. The.
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  Speaker 2: The whole sequence in the second or going towards the
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  Speaker 2: lake with the, you know, they got them to, what,
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  Speaker 2: third and 33? They get in delay of games. They
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  Speaker 2: get a holding call and then another holding call. And
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  Speaker 2: yet they dial up. They move the pocket and they
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  Speaker 2: dial up. The Cougars bust a coverage. And they get
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  Speaker 2: with a little scissors action. They got the corner route,
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  Speaker 2: a post route. coming open for whatever reason, the free
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  Speaker 2: safety comes out of the middle to cover the corner
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  Speaker 2: out in a scissors concept. And the corner had been
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  Speaker 2: turned around. It's wide-ass open on third and 33. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: like there's barely even Cougars in the picture. So that's
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  Speaker 2: a hell of a play for any play caller to
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  Speaker 2: dial up to get somebody that open on third and
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  Speaker 2: 33 in the back of the end zone. Hell wasn't
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  Speaker 2: even the back of the end zone implies that it
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  Speaker 2: would have taken a tough, a tough throw. It was
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  Speaker 2: wide open at the front of the end zone, the
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  Speaker 2: middle of the end zone and the back of the
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  Speaker 2: end zone. And so for, for, uh, for, uh, demand
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  Speaker 2: with his experience now and what is expected of him
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  Speaker 2: to miss that was rather alarming. I mean, even the,
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  Speaker 2: the post route that they took a shot, you know,
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  Speaker 2: they were clear. They, they wanted to take the shots.
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  Speaker 2: They go play action in the first half on a
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  Speaker 2: post route. Now, they get the pass interference.
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  Speaker 1: Do you remember that?
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  Speaker 2: It was nullified because there was offensive holding and defensive
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  Speaker 2: pass interference.
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  Speaker 1: Do you remember that one? Yes.
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  Speaker 2: The safety comes out of the middle. That's a very
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  Speaker 2: poor ball placement. It's up the field and to the left.
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  Speaker 2: As a quarterback, when you see the safety vacate and
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  Speaker 2: you've got the entire middle of the field and to
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  Speaker 2: the right, you're the, there's a, the defender has to
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  Speaker 2: mirror the receiver. So you, as you look, your post,
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  Speaker 2: your post route is going from your left side. He
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  Speaker 2: goes up the field and they runs towards the post.
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  Speaker 2: As the name implies, the, the defender is going to
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  Speaker 2: match that angle.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: So let's think of like a, a railroad track. You
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  Speaker 2: got the receiver on the one track and the corner
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  Speaker 2: on the other. If you throw the ball more to
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  Speaker 2: the middle of the field, the receiver, the defender is
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  Speaker 2: not tracking the ball yet. He's, he's, he's running with
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  Speaker 2: the receiver. And so if you, if you flatten the
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  Speaker 2: ball over more towards the right hash, even though he's
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  Speaker 2: coming from the left side, if you flattened him towards
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  Speaker 2: the right hash, then he flattens it, his angle. And,
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  Speaker 2: and that there's creates a little separation bubble because, because
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  Speaker 2: the corner can't react to that. And so the, So
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  Speaker 2: then you catch it, and there's all that area. You
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  Speaker 2: can kind of throw it to any angle over there.
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  Speaker 2: Make him go get to the ball towards the right
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  Speaker 2: sideline is what I mean by flattening it.
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  Speaker 1: And he did the opposite.
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  Speaker 2: He threw it up over the left shoulder as opposed
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  Speaker 2: to bringing him over to the opposite side.
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  Speaker 1: So that's detail. That's poor ball placement. Hold on. All right,
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  Speaker 1: we're losing, but I think we're at the end of
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  Speaker 1: the segment anyway, so we'll reconnect here. Hugh Millen is
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  Speaker 1: with us. It's our Monday morning quarterback session, 24-10 Washington
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  Speaker 1: over Washington State in the 118th playing of the Apple
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  Speaker 1: Cup yesterday, and we've got a lot more to evaluate
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  Speaker 1: with our QB1, so we'll continue on the other side.
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  Speaker 1: It's Sports Radio 93.3 KJR FM. Monday morning quarterback here,
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  Speaker 1: special edition, Apple Cup edition. We've got our QB1 with us,
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  Speaker 1: Hugh Millen. The Huskies went over the Cougs 24 to
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  Speaker 1: 10 yesterday, but at one point it was 10 to
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  Speaker 1: 7 with 10 minutes, 15 seconds left in the fourth quarter.
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  Speaker 1: And so in our next segment here with our QB1,
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  Speaker 1: let's dive right into that fourth quarter. And The Cougs'
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  Speaker 1: lone successful touchdown scoring drive made things a little bit
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  Speaker 1: uncomfortable there. Hugh, what did they finally get going against
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  Speaker 1: that Huskies defense as you saw it?
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  Speaker 2: Well, that was their best drive on offense. They had
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  Speaker 2: a fourth and four. They converted on a QB sneak,
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  Speaker 2: and then they they did a little naked misdirection like
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  Speaker 2: they're running to the left they got the tight end
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  Speaker 2: in the flat for a first down that he he
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  Speaker 2: hit a hell of a slant route down near the
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  Speaker 2: red zone where he threw it in into a window
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  Speaker 2: and zone just past what's called the hook defender the
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  Speaker 2: inside shallow defender and And then the QB draw was
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  Speaker 2: very well conceived at about the 11-yard line. That should
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  Speaker 2: be tough yards to get, but on first down, they
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  Speaker 2: got aggressive. They dialed up a play where they fake
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  Speaker 2: like they're doing a quick toss to the left. They
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  Speaker 2: got the influence they want. They got the lead blocking
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  Speaker 2: on the counter blocking, and they popped the touchdown from
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  Speaker 2: the 11-yard line. So that put it, as you said,
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  Speaker 2: at 10-7 with 10-15 remaining. The Huskies get the ball,
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  Speaker 2: and You know, from Jed Fish's perspective, you know, there
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  Speaker 2: was an aggression. They moved the pocket. They sprint out.
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  Speaker 2: And they throw an over route where you get a
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  Speaker 2: crossing route. Now, in this case, I'll tell you, if
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: you're a cougar, you're like, there was a guy closing
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  Speaker 2: from the backside.
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  Speaker 1: And.
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  Speaker 2: DeMond almost got his arm hit. That could have been
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  Speaker 2: a fumble on the first play of the drive, but
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  Speaker 2: it wasn't. They get the crossing route to Chris Lawson.
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  Speaker 2: He breaks a tackle. He gets 29 yards, and then
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  Speaker 2: they dial up immediately. Again, speaking to the aggression at
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: that point, they were not going to get conservative. They
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: go the flea flicker. get a really nice play. Um,
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  Speaker 2: now I think this is one of those cases where
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  Speaker 2: Yogi Roth and, and I know Yogi well, love him
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  Speaker 2: to death. He, he, he gets a lot of, of, uh,
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  Speaker 2: grief for being a little bit positive. And I think he,
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: he had a little bit of hyperbole in praising, uh,
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  Speaker 2: demand on that play. It was just a cover four,
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: four deep three under. And, uh, it's a concept, very,
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: very ubiquitous concept. I call it jungle, uh, which is
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: a word conjunction of, of, uh, jet and go a
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  Speaker 2: little 12 yard out route.
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  Speaker 1: And he's wide open.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, there's only three guys in a, in a
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  Speaker 2: four under three deep flat and the flat defender didn't
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  Speaker 2: get out there. So even though he's thrown to the
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  Speaker 2: far hash, there wasn't anybody within five yards of him.
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  Speaker 2: So that was a easy throw. Well, you know, well-designed
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  Speaker 2: flea flicker. They, you know, they got the guys flat
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  Speaker 2: footed just enough. So, so they get the run down,
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  Speaker 2: run down, running down to the three yard line. He
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  Speaker 2: was out of bounds and, And then they had a
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  Speaker 2: nice RPO where they fake the run, but they get
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  Speaker 2: a well-designed RPO with the receiver coming across the formation.
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  Speaker 2: And they get the touchdown pass on that on a
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  Speaker 2: design run that DeMond pulled the ball and threw it
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  Speaker 2: to Rasheed Williams, who had caught the flea flicker.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, he earned it. He deserved it. He deserved it.
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  Speaker 2: And so I think that's the best thing you can
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  Speaker 2: say about the offense was the answer drives. In the
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  Speaker 2: fourth quarter, when Washington State made you, if you were inclined,
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: to bite your nails, the Cougars did that. And on
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  Speaker 2: both of those drives, Washington came back with aggression, made
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  Speaker 2: big plays, and DeMond.
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  Speaker 1: Had some really terrific plays. Yeah, I mean, I think
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  Speaker 1: it's just, having the athletic ability that he has. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know if there's much, uh, science to break down
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  Speaker 1: on his scramble for 21 yards where he alluded to
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  Speaker 1: play the game. Yeah. He alluded three, uh, Cougs on,
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  Speaker 1: on third and nine. And then, but the 33 yard
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  Speaker 1: pass to Lawson where he was getting mugged, uh, down
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  Speaker 1: the field and still made the catch. So that sequence
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  Speaker 1: of plays capped off by the 11 yard touchdown run. Um,
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  Speaker 1: that was a hell of an answer. You're right. Yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And, uh, you know, they had, They tried a couple
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  Speaker 2: of bootlegs, one to the right, one to the left,
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  Speaker 2: and that set up third and four. They get the
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: false start with the freshman left tackle.
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  Speaker 1: So it's third and nine, 254 to go.
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  Speaker 2: The Cougars are going to force a punt here and
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  Speaker 2: get the ball back, and the score is 17-10. They're
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: going to have the ball with a little over two
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  Speaker 2: and a half minutes, and they had just had in
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  Speaker 2: their prior sequence, as we had said, they got their
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: best series. earlier in the fourth quarter. What I can
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: tell you on that play of the game, the Cougars
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: are playing man-to-man, but they only rushed three. You can
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  Speaker 2: rush up to five if you don't want to account
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  Speaker 2: for the quarterback and you don't want to have a
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: low hole player. But because the Cougars only rushed three,
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: they had a couple of robbers in the area that
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: And I would just say there's a point there where
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  Speaker 2: when DeMond goes to his left, I didn't look up
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  Speaker 2: the roster, but number one, number 15, and number six.
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  Speaker 2: If you can for me, Chuck, hold up three fingers
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  Speaker 2: with your middle finger being In the middle.
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  Speaker 1: I can't hold up the middle finger. We're on YouTube
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  Speaker 1: right now. Oh, okay.
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  Speaker 2: Well, if you have accessories, you can accessorize it with
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: the index finger on one side and the ring finger
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  Speaker 2: on the other.
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  Speaker 1: Okay. Are we safe that way? I got it. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I got it.
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  Speaker 2: So Washington State was in that situation. And now I
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: want you to put your other hand, put your index
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: finger kind of right in the middle of those three.
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  Speaker 2: If you're just going to say basic fundamental football, you
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: would say if we got three guys, you would talk
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  Speaker 2: to your index finger and your ring finger and you'd
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: say never let the quarterback go around you, like force
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  Speaker 2: it in towards the middle. And if the one in
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  Speaker 2: a hundred chance we don't make the tackle, it's got
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  Speaker 2: to be between your ring finger and your middle finger.
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  Speaker 2: and your middle finger and your index finger. It's got
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: to be between them, never to the outside of the
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  Speaker 2: outside guy or to the inside of the inside guy,
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  Speaker 2: getting back to football.
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  Speaker 1: Does that make sense?
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  Speaker 2: Let me repeat that again. Three guys converging on the quarterback,
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  Speaker 2: and whoever number six is, For Washington State, I don't
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  Speaker 2: know if their numbers are crumpled up. It's possible it
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  Speaker 2: was eight, but I think it was number six. But
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  Speaker 2: the inside guy, you cannot let the quarterback run to
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  Speaker 2: your inside. The outside guy, you cannot let the quarterback
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  Speaker 2: get to your outside up the sideline. You should feed
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  Speaker 2: it into the middle, have the other two guys help
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  Speaker 2: you tackle, and if the one and a– I said
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  Speaker 2: one and a hundred. And the one and a thousand
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  Speaker 2: he gets through, I guess with DeMond it's going to
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  Speaker 2: be more than– but it's got to be in the
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  Speaker 2: middle of those. And so for them to lose, the
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: term is lose leverage, uh, two guys to lose leverage.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Um, you know, it's just a astonishing breakdown of fundamentals,
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  Speaker 2: but then you'd say, well, demands the kind of guy
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  Speaker 2: that can kind of break rules.
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  Speaker 1: Uh, and, and he did that.
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  Speaker 2: And you, as you said, then he hit the go
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  Speaker 2: route with the guy in his face. That's a hell
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  Speaker 2: of a play. That's a double plus for the quarterback. Um,
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  Speaker 2: and then the run was a pin and pull design,
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  Speaker 2: nice design, the center and the tackle are pulling out and,
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  Speaker 2: And so you got great blocking at the point of
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  Speaker 2: attack and you may, you know, uh, real good blocking
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  Speaker 2: out on the perimeter, make running back makes the guy miss.
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  Speaker 2: It's kind of how you draw it up, uh, just about.
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  Speaker 2: And so, uh, so Washington closed strong, um, with some
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  Speaker 2: really good football and some aggressive play calling and what
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  Speaker 2: have you, and save some of their best stuff for those,
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  Speaker 2: those two answer drives. That's the best thing I can
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  Speaker 2: say about the offense is, is not just good play
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  Speaker 2: in the fourth quarter, but. responding in the answer drive
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  Speaker 2: after Washington State had scored in each of those occasions.
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  Speaker 1: Well, that's the best thing they can say about them.
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: Probably the worst thing that you could say about the
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: Huskies yesterday were all the penalties. 130 yards worth of
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: penalties and really a lot of stupid ones in that bunch, Hugh.
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  Speaker 1: A lot of stupid ones.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I think to have two delay game penalties, particularly
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: when you start the third quarter with a delay game, Benny,
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: after you'd already probably peeled some paint off the locker.
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: To start the third quarter with a delay game is
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: just unforgivable. The holding call on a really nice jailbreak screen,
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  Speaker 2: but that's holding. I think you're probably focused on the
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  Speaker 2: defense on some of those lapses. You get the young freshmen.
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  Speaker 2: I guess all freshmen are young, right? But Ramzak Fruin.
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  Speaker 2: He gets on third and I think third and 11.
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  Speaker 2: He ends up bumping the quarterback. This was in the
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  Speaker 2: third quarter, right, on a drive. Now, he had been
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: juked out a couple plays before. Do you remember that
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  Speaker 2: one on the bootleg?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And so now he– that was on the defensive left side.
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: Now he's on the defensive right side. They go third down.
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  Speaker 2: They don't allow him to rush the quarterback. They have
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: him drop off in a fire zone, a zone blitz.
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  Speaker 2: And so he's on the right side of the field,
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: and give him credit, he chases all the way over
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  Speaker 2: to the left sideline. He bumps into the quarterback, and
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  Speaker 2: maybe it was the frustration, but it was great hustle.
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  Speaker 2: He'll learn from that. Now you get a third and 19.
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  Speaker 2: You force the quarterback to scramble. You gang tackle the
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: quarterback with three, four guys, and your middle linebacker, what
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: is he, senior middle linebacker?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, senior middle linebacker.
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  Speaker 2: He wants to get up and stand over the quarterback
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  Speaker 2: on third and 19. So now this is the second,
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  Speaker 2: third down, you you give up um and uh uh
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  Speaker 2: oh the that you had the uh on a third
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: down the obviously the targeting yep um you know i
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: think you know how i feel i hate i hate
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: the whole targeting thing i think that for me to
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: throw a targeting you'd have to um have a an
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: egregious clear sign of intent because um I'll just summarize
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: it like this. If you knew you gave every player
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: on the field a little potion. We talked about the
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: invisible juice before. Now we're going to have juice that, that,
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: that removes any part in the brain that would have
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: an intent to hit an opponent in the helmet.
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  Speaker 1: I got to really visit your apothecary. Yeah. Oh, Hey, listen,
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: I got the goods, man. Just come see me.
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: We got Bob Marley playing and we're handing out the
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: good stuff, but, but so now we know just as
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: a thought experiment, every player on the field has been removed.
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: We know for a fact that every player has, has
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: had any intent to hit another player in the helmet
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: removed from his intent. You're still going to watch the
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: game and you're going to see a lot of helmet-to-helmet
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: contact because you're going to say, well, don't hit with
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: the head, hit with the shoulder. Well, it's a funny
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: thing about the head and the proximity to the shoulder.
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: They seem to be very close to one another. So
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: every time, so when you're trying to react to contact,
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: you know, the moving target of a ball carrier and
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: you go and okay, Hey, my intense to hit with
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: the shoulder, my intense is the shoulder and not.
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: To hit his head.
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: But then the, the, the ball carrier moves. And then
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: now all of a sudden you go head on head. And, and,
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: and then everybody's going, wait a minute. I thought you
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: took the potion. He's like, I did take the potion.
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: I didn't intend to hit him in the head.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: But neurologically, I can't freaking react that fast to a
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: moving target. So I think the whole thing's absurd, and
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: the Huskies got stung on that one.
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I thought for sure he was going to get
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: hit with the penalty when I saw it in real time.
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: And then they threw the flag. I'm like, yep. And
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: then the explanation was given by the Gene Steratore. I
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: don't know what the guy's name was. We know what
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: you mean. Yeah. And I'm like, oh, okay. All right. Yeah. Okay.
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: Might get away with this thing. So I don't think
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: anybody can complain that you didn't necessarily get away with
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: that under the rules because it was close. But I'm
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  Speaker 1: with you. I was kind of hoping that the official
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: would get talked out of that.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you know, Chuck, I think I'm going to have
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: to go to school on this because I thought that
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: there was a middle ground where you'd say it's a
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: penalty but not an ejection. Like if you hit forcible
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: contact to the head and neck area, it doesn't matter
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: whether it's with your shoulder, your forearm, or whatever. And
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: so clearly, as the rules are written, we can all
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: agree that the Cougar quarterback got bobbleheaded his head. He
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: definitely took a significant blow to his head. Like, like
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: no Huskies should deny that. Now the question of whether
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: it's the crown, which is the, is the part that, that, uh,
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: triggers the ejection. I think there's a lot of question
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: as to whether the crown did. I don't, I don't,
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: I don't see crown intent at all. So I was
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: thinking based on what I thought the rules were, it's
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: going to, the 15 yards is going to stand and,
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: But the ejection is not because it's not crown. But
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: then we got the guys, you said the stare tours
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: coming on saying if they, if they turn down the ejection,
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: they're going to turn down the 15 yard. And I'm
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: sitting there going, oh my God, I'm a, I'm an
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: analyst on the radio show. And I don't even know
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: the fricking rule.
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: Well, they did change something about it. You now don't
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: get suspended for the next game. So that's the thing
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: that they changed. So you can still get thrown out
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: of the game for targeting. But the first offense does
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: not carry over into the next game. What about the
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: last play of the game, then? You're a little frisky.
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: You're a little salty about losing. Maybe, maybe, if you
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: want to take advantage of it. But if you get like–
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: I think then it accumulates, like two offenses, three offenses,
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: and then it gets worse. Yeah. All right. What's the–
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: what do I always hear? Clean that up? Yeah, clean up. Yeah,
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: get the bleach out. There's a lot to clean up.
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: All right, one more segment with you here today. An
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: hour of Monday Morning Quarterback Apple Cup edition with our
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: QB1 on Sports Radio 93.3 KJR FM. Oh, Monday Morning Quarterback.
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: You're getting two of them this week. You're getting one
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: today on the Apple Cup. You're getting another one Thursday
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: when we recap the Seahawks opener. on Wednesday. And of course,
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: the star Monday morning quarterback is our quarterback, Hugh Millen.
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: One more segment here today to put a bow on
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: this 24-10 win for the Huskies over the Cougs yesterday
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: in the 118th playing of the Apple Cup. And I
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: think that we should spend our final segment talking about
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: the defense a little bit. It did seem smothering. It
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: seems stifling. I don't know how much of that has
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: to do with the Cougs' offense, but certainly they were
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: beehiving it yesterday. And I know who stood out to me,
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: and that was the freshman, Derek Coleman-Bruce, who looks like
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: a grown man out there. Ramzak had his one misstep
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: there on the sidelines, but I thought he was prominent.
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: An interception from Jones. I mean, the freshman, to me,
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: stood out on defense yesterday, Hugh.
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they sure did, and we'll talk about Ryan Walters
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: hopefully here as well, but let's talk the personnel there.
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: Derek Coleman, Bruce, they kind of play an NFL front
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: for the most part where they played a lot of
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: what's called over front where they slid everybody to the
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: strong side, and Derek Coleman, Bruce, is the three technique,
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: so he's in the shade between the guard and the tackle.
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: They're not always asking him to get up the field,
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: having him hold his gap. man, that guy has star
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: written all over it. He's got NFL stamped all over
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: his body. I mean, I'm sitting there, is this guy
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: some kind of J.J.
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: Watt? You know, T.J.
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: Watt's more of the outside linebacker, but if you remember, J.J.
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: Watt would play more inside. I mean, beautiful frame on him,
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: the strength, you know, the hold down. So I just, man,
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: the sky's the limit with him. And Just, again, they're
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: asking him to play with power from that scheme as
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: opposed to always trying to penetrate, and he has the
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: frame to do that. But there's also some– I'm going
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: to be interested to assess his twitchiness moving forward. But
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: then Ramzak Fruin, he played mostly on the left side
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: as an end. There's probably– a greater gap on his
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: upside from where he is now to.
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: Where he'll, he will be.
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: Um, I mean, if Derek Coleman, Bruce can have a,
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: a huge gap, then that guy's going to be a
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: first round draft pick, but, but, uh, Ramjack through and,
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: you know, he, he's long and athletic. Um, you know,
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  Speaker 2: he got juked out in space, so I don't want
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  Speaker 2: to say he's some kind of Eman worry as an athlete,
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  Speaker 2: but he's long and, and, you know, he's a young
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  Speaker 2: guy and, I understand why they're starting him. Really encouraging
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: to have your... You're playing essentially a 40 front, and
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  Speaker 2: half your defensive line there, at least as they were
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  Speaker 2: constituted at starting, are true freshmen.
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  Speaker 1: Man, crazy. Very crazy. You did mention Walter's good start
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  Speaker 1: for him, and there are big expectations for him in
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: this defense. A few notes there.
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  Speaker 2: I know we're pinched on the segment, but after the
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  Speaker 2: first drive where the Cougars went down, missed a field goal,
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: you know, very first play of the next drive, they
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  Speaker 2: line up in a bare front. They had been getting
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  Speaker 2: beat in the running game. So the bare front is
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  Speaker 2: where they have, it's also called the double Eagle. You
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  Speaker 2: got the center cover, both guards, you got a five
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  Speaker 2: man defensive line instead of a four man defensive line. So,
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  Speaker 2: you know, that stopped the run right from the beginning.
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  Speaker 2: Their zone blitzes on back to back plays. They went, they, they,
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  Speaker 2: they're bringing five, which obviously means they're playing zone with six.
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  Speaker 2: They go three deep, three under on one, and then
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  Speaker 2: the very next play, they come back, they go zone blitz.
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  Speaker 2: Bring it from another angle, it's still just a five-man rush,
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  Speaker 2: but they're playing a two-deep, what's called a palms coverage,
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  Speaker 2: where the corners are going to activate to the flat
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  Speaker 2: or they're going to drop deep. And so it's an
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  Speaker 2: entirely different structure from the quarterback's perspective. And I noticed
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  Speaker 2: the Wazoo quarterback was going straight to the iPad to
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  Speaker 2: study that. The delay blitzes with the experienced linebackers where
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: they get up, they mug up at the line scrimmage.
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  Speaker 2: act like they're backing out and dropping into coverage and
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  Speaker 2: then delay blitzing. That tripped up the Cougars.
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  Speaker 1: You had.
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  Speaker 2: They play Tampa 2, where they just lined up and
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: showed you Tampa 2.
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  Speaker 1: What does that mean?
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  Speaker 2: That's a 5-under and sometimes 6-under because there was times
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  Speaker 2: in a critical part in the fourth quarter where Ryan
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  Speaker 2: Walters just rushed three, and he had a drop in
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: eight guys, and he was able to cloud, meaning the
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  Speaker 2: corners in the flat. And that's exactly where the Cougars
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  Speaker 2: wanted to go on third and three was to the flat,
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  Speaker 2: and the corner could jump that. That caused a punt situation.
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  Speaker 2: So that's really being one step ahead of the playmakers
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  Speaker 2: play caller for the Cougars but as I mentioned the
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  Speaker 2: Tampa two that's too deep with a with generally a
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: middle linebacker in the middle but the the wrinkle that
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: the Huskies showed is that they had Alex McLaughlin just
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: kind of standing in the middle and yet they played
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: the uh the two around it with the safeties around
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  Speaker 2: him and then the corners coming up into the flat
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  Speaker 2: and so now that defense always taketh, defense giveth. So
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: that's taken away the sidelines, and it's taken away the
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: deep stuff down the middle. But the shallow stuff in
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: the middle, you're vulnerable. But because the Huskies are so
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: good at linebacker, And in that defense, the linebackers have
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: to cover more ground. They're experienced. They're fast. They're good tacklers.
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  Speaker 2: And so they could play that coverage because their linebackers
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: are so deep and talented and experienced that they react
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  Speaker 2: to what they see. They're one step ahead. They get
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: to where the ball is, and they make the sure tackle.
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  Speaker 2: So that's a good coverage to play with your personnel.
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  Speaker 2: So I think there's a lot of good things from
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: a scheme standpoint, what he was dialing up. Ryan Walters,
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: you know, yeah, the fourth quarter touchdown. I'm sure he's
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: upset about that early in the fourth quarter. And, you know,
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: there's a couple missed field goals. Maybe there's a few
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: more points that Cougars would have added. But by and large,
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: Ryan Walters, given the youth that he has and the secondary,
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: I didn't even get to the secondary, they look good
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: and athletic and well-prepared. So I think a really good
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: day for Ryan Walters.
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: Well, we are underway.
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: We won't do this for Utah State. So from any
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: meaningful perspective, how was this any different than Utah state? Well, well,
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: I mean, if you're taking away nostalgia, if you take
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: nostalgia out of it, right.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I made myself clear on, on the apple cup, not to, uh,
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: you know, denigrate the Cougars.
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: If anything, I'm being charitable to the Cougars.
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: Like, Whoa, dude, you guys, you guys played above your, your, uh, your,
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: your circumstances for all those decades now, but this is
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: just asking a little too much.
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: All right, man. They were competitive.
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: As you said, you know, there are two drives where
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: they had a chance to go tire, win the game.
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  Speaker 1: Yep. Yep. Yep. All right. Uh, well, thank you, sir.
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: We appreciate great stuff as always. You're building our QB
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: one with a little, uh, Apple cup Monday morning quarterback
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: for you, uh, right here on the radio program coming
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: up next. Um, well, we are two days away from
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: that Seahawks opener. And today, uh, I mean, usually it's
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: Wednesday where we start previewing the next opponent. Well, the
• 41:45
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