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215: Raccoons Sound Off! Is Robyn Evil or Stupid, David & Mykelti Twinning + a Mystery Caller... · Reality TV Cringe

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  Speaker 1: Okay, well let's just get right into those speak byes as, right. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: first one we got is from Haley.
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  Speaker 6: HAYB and D. This is Hailey calling from a rainy
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  Speaker 6: dumpster in Seattle. I've got a couple things.
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  Speaker 7: First.
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  Speaker 6: The comment that Christine made about McKelty and David being
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  Speaker 6: very similar and it's basically like she's marrying her daughter.
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  Speaker 6: That confused me because I see McKelty and David as
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  Speaker 6: polar opposites. I think McKelty is a clout goblin and
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  Speaker 6: a narcissist, and I have not gotten that impression from David,
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  Speaker 6: So what are we not seeing? Is he completely different
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  Speaker 6: off camera? I'd love to know what your guys' thoughts
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  Speaker 6: are on that comment she made. Also, what just happened
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  Speaker 6: with Mary on the couch and that conversation she was
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  Speaker 6: having with her two girlfriends. She did not want to
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  Speaker 6: talk about the breakup combo and then finally Jen got
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  Speaker 6: her to do it, and then all of the sudden,
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  Speaker 6: production wants to show us the tea. They want to
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  Speaker 6: give us some actual new information and go back and
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  Speaker 6: show us what Cody had actually said, which was poor girl,
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  Speaker 6: that was so hard on Robin completely discout Mary's feelings
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  Speaker 6: in that conversation. My question though, is why are they
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  Speaker 6: not showing us that until Mary talks about it? Are
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  Speaker 6: they waiting for the og wives to bring this up
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  Speaker 6: on camera to get the green light to air the footage?
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  Speaker 6: And how is all of that going on behind the scenes.
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  Speaker 6: I'm so confused. Lastly, Cody's comment about all these men
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  Speaker 6: lined up around the block for Robin at church, I
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  Speaker 6: guarantee there are more men that are interested in Cody
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  Speaker 6: than interested in Robin. Thanks ladies, love the podcast. You
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  Speaker 6: guys are the best.
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  Speaker 1: Oh that was great.
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  Speaker 4: I also agree about Cody, and there probably is more
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  Speaker 4: men that are.
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  Speaker 1: Into Yeah, I know, I can definitely see that as well. Yeah, okay,
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  Speaker 1: So the first question was how in the world Christine
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  Speaker 1: can say that David is like McKelty. Yeah, I'm trying
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  Speaker 1: to remember the context in which Christine said that. I
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  Speaker 1: think that they were at one of these goddamn wedding celebration, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: something like that to the nuptials, and McKelty was playing
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  Speaker 1: around something with David. Yeah, or like maybe it was
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  Speaker 1: the one where she like spilled the tacoberia sauce on
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  Speaker 1: her white dress and mackelty was calling David over to
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  Speaker 1: see it. David is nothing like McKelty. No, he seems
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  Speaker 1: like a reserved, laid back, chill kind of person. He
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  Speaker 1: doesn't seem like somebody who needs to shove himself into
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  Speaker 1: the spotlight or to like have all of the attention.
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  Speaker 1: He seems content to support Christine, not to like stand
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  Speaker 1: in front of her and soak up all the oxygen
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  Speaker 1: in a room. So I don't see it.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't see it either. And I think that
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  Speaker 4: was in the context of like sarcasm, like mickelty and
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  Speaker 4: David are just as sarcastic or snarky or something. But
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  Speaker 4: I'm like, I don't see it. I don't even think
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  Speaker 4: mckelty's funny.
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  Speaker 1: So not at all.
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  Speaker 4: I feel like David's way more funnier. I feel like
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  Speaker 4: he's way chiller. He's a Capricorn. I thought he was
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  Speaker 4: a Sagittarius, but actually he's like Capricorn sag cusp. So
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  Speaker 4: he's like the grandpa, yeah of the zodiac, So he's
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  Speaker 4: like chill whatever. I feel like Christina and McKelty are
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  Speaker 4: very much alike.
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  Speaker 1: Do we know what mchelte's sun sign is?
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  Speaker 4: I can look it up?
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  Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, So as Beatrice was pulling up mckeltie's sun sign,
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  Speaker 1: I said, I bet she's a Gemini. Yeah, and she's
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  Speaker 1: a Gemini.
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  Speaker 4: And I guessed it too in my head. Yeah, definitely
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  Speaker 4: a Gemini.
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  Speaker 1: Totally seems like a Gemini, and David absolutely seems like
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  Speaker 1: a Capricorn. I think people get tired of it's talking
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  Speaker 1: about astrology. Okay, they you can suck these nuts.
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  Speaker 4: You can suck these nuts.
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  Speaker 1: We like talking about it.
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  Speaker 4: I love astrology.
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  Speaker 1: She loves astrology. Yeah, we do talk about it from
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  Speaker 1: time to time. Yeah, there's absolutely no similarities between the two.
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  Speaker 1: I think Christine loves to hear herself talk. Yeah, and
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  Speaker 1: so she says these stupid things that are not rooted
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  Speaker 1: in reality, and you just have to forget. She even
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  Speaker 1: said them in one ear and out the other. That's
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  Speaker 1: how I feel about Christine yep, and even less about
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  Speaker 1: Chelty agreed. Okay, So the second part of her question
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  Speaker 1: was in regard to Cody making that comment about poor
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  Speaker 1: Robin when Mary and Cody were breaking up on Kytie
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  Speaker 1: Pass and why we did not see that footage when
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  Speaker 1: that episode aired. Yeah, and are we sure about that?
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  Speaker 1: I don't fucking know. I can't keep any of it, dude,
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  Speaker 1: But a lot of people have said that that wasn't
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  Speaker 1: actually included. But when I saw it, I thought I
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  Speaker 1: had already seen it, but I'm probably wrong.
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  Speaker 4: Well, we're watching the same footage over and over and
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  Speaker 4: over again, so it's kind of hard to like keep
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  Speaker 4: it all together. But I mean, the producers are not
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  Speaker 4: gonna show us the real footage because they got to
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  Speaker 4: keep some of the juicy bits to like string us along,
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  Speaker 4: like Mary Brown does with her Instagram posts and her
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  Speaker 4: vague igrit therapy stuff. Yeah, so like that's what the
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  Speaker 4: TLC producers are doing. Like they'll keep like the one
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  Speaker 4: good little clips and they'll just like string it along
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  Speaker 4: in previews or in the next season because they got
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  Speaker 4: to make content.
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  Speaker 1: I guess it kind of felt to me in the
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  Speaker 1: moment when they were having that conversation at Brandy's house
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  Speaker 1: in Vegas, like the producers actually told them to somehow
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  Speaker 1: bring this up because they wanted to feature that clip,
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  Speaker 1: and so they wanted to get it in and so
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  Speaker 1: they're organizing production behind the scenes, and so they're requiring
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  Speaker 1: these conversations. But I don't know, Like I don't know. Listen,
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  Speaker 1: I'm the last person to be able to decipher the
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  Speaker 1: rosetta stone of this production team because they seem to
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  Speaker 1: be operating on a different planet entirely the way I
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  Speaker 1: would be doing it, so differently if I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: And yes, Cody would attract the attention of the male gaze,
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  Speaker 1: if the male gaze was interested in all.
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  Speaker 4: That, I'm sure you could find a nice gay man
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  Speaker 4: that would be into Unfortunately, but I mean his classmates
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  Speaker 4: in high school did say that they thought he was gay.
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  Speaker 1: So not just gay flamboyantly gay, flamboyantly gay. That makes a.
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  Speaker 4: Different Yeah, it does make a difference.
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  Speaker 1: So good questions. Yea from Hale, Thank you all right.
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  Speaker 4: Next one is from an anonymous O.
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  Speaker 8: God, I'm just so fed up with Mary, and I
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  Speaker 8: don't know. I can't, like I haven't fully fought through
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  Speaker 8: why I'm mad at her. But I'm mad at her for.
• 9:05
  Speaker 7: Being mad at Robin for how Robin acted on Kyote pass,
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  Speaker 7: because like she didn't even have to be there, Like
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  Speaker 7: you put her in a position where she was that
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  Speaker 7: involved in your relationship and you allowed Cody to put
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  Speaker 7: her into that position. Like she's been annoying this whole time,
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  Speaker 7: she's been crossing boundaries and you know, making her emotions
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  Speaker 7: about your emotions about herself for this whole time. Like
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  Speaker 7: now you're gonna complain you were permissive in that just
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  Speaker 7: always got the wrong take. She's always like trying to
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  Speaker 7: be so original and higher than the others, And like
• 9:37
  Speaker 7: you want an original take, why don't you stay besties
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  Speaker 7: with Robin the way you have and just completely go
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  Speaker 7: hard on Cody. I want to see you put Robin
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  Speaker 7: in a position where she has to criticize Cody, and
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  Speaker 7: I want to see the fallout from that, Like she's
• 9:50
  Speaker 7: always too soft and just like really weak willed about
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  Speaker 7: her anger, and I just want to see her like,
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  Speaker 7: do something original, Mary, be mad, feel your feelings, show
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  Speaker 7: us something, because I just kind of think you're.
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  Speaker 1: Sad, I e pathetic. Yeah, like a couple of episodes
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  Speaker 1: A goal.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I agree. It's hard for me, like
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  Speaker 4: somebody who tends to be kind of reactive and like
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  Speaker 4: I just do shit. You don't even want to know,
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  Speaker 4: You don't even want to.
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  Speaker 9: See a girl.
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  Speaker 1: God, you are so ready to put your ready.
• 10:25
  Speaker 4: To put my duke, so all ready to fine, I know,
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  Speaker 4: but no, for real, Like I'm so emotional. I'm like
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  Speaker 4: if I'm mad, you're gonna sense it. You'll see it
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  Speaker 4: on my fucking face, like or I will start screaming
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  Speaker 4: at you. So it's like hard for me to look
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  Speaker 4: at somebody like Mary who can just bury that down
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  Speaker 4: and not be authentic, especially on TV, and just like
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  Speaker 4: keep all of that behind her walls and not react
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  Speaker 4: because it's like nobody wants to see that. We want
• 10:49
  Speaker 4: to see you be you and say how you actually feel.
• 10:53
  Speaker 4: She's kind of starting to do it. Some of these
• 10:55
  Speaker 4: most recent talking kits for Mary.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, only when she doesn't have anything else to lose,
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  Speaker 1: then she feels a little bit more comfortable. But I
• 11:03
  Speaker 1: feel like we have seen Mary bear her teeth, but
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  Speaker 1: it's always with like Christine. Remember when the fire was
• 11:11
  Speaker 1: coming in Flagstaff and so the whole family went over
• 11:14
  Speaker 1: to Mary's rental and Christine was trying to help and
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  Speaker 1: being her annoying self, and Mary totally snapped at her,
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  Speaker 1: Like we've seen her with Janelle and Christine be a
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  Speaker 1: bit defensive and I wouldn't say aggressive, but I could
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  Speaker 1: see it in her to do that, but we have
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  Speaker 1: not seen that with Robin. I think that is such
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  Speaker 1: a brilliant idea anonymous to have Mary talk to Robin
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  Speaker 1: as a friend would yea, and talk about their things
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  Speaker 1: that they have in common, which is Cody and all
• 11:43
  Speaker 1: of the ways that Cody did all of the women wrong.
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  Speaker 1: To see what Robin would say, because I think Robin
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  Speaker 1: in that moment would probably get pissed and be very defensive,
• 11:53
  Speaker 1: which would be stupid. It would be really interesting and
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  Speaker 1: fun to see how Robin actually handles that.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, to be a fly on the wall, like if
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  Speaker 4: they didn't do that off camera or on camera, if
• 12:04
  Speaker 4: they did that off camera. It would be so interesting
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  Speaker 4: to see, but we're never going to see it.
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  Speaker 1: No, we are not.
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  Speaker 4: And I do have a comment that I wanted to
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  Speaker 4: read from somebody else, kind of piggybacking off of this.
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  Speaker 4: Last week that we did the speak pipes, we had
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  Speaker 4: somebody called Raccoon in Our Adoration or whatever, and they
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  Speaker 4: talked about Mary and her lack of self and she
• 12:25
  Speaker 4: made a follow up comment that I thought was kind
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  Speaker 4: of interesting. She said, I think that Mary's lack of
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  Speaker 4: self is also what's making her need to feel like
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  Speaker 4: she's handling the breakup and leaving better than Janelle and Christine,
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  Speaker 4: rather than owning her truth, actually healing and walking away
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  Speaker 4: on her terms. She is trying to be the best
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  Speaker 4: ex wife because now that she's not as dependent on
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  Speaker 4: Cody for her self worth, she's trying to find it
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  Speaker 4: in comparison and in navigating life with what she thinks
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  Speaker 4: is more grace than the other women. I think we
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  Speaker 4: can expect to see a lot of Mary doing that
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  Speaker 4: toxic teenage girl thing of bearing others down to make
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  Speaker 4: herself look better for a little longer until she stabilizes
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  Speaker 4: her self worth. And it's not mean spirited. It's this
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  Speaker 4: psychological need that is driving her actions that she's not
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  Speaker 4: even aware of or probably able to identify.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my god, Yeah, what an enlightened take.
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  Speaker 4: Raccoon and adoration is based.
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  Speaker 1: I can see that though. That makes a whole lot
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  Speaker 1: of sense to me. Yeah, that a lot of what
• 13:22
  Speaker 1: we're seeing when she's taking these digs at these other
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  Speaker 1: women is an attempt to stabilize who she thinks she
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  Speaker 1: is or how she's showing up in the middle of
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  Speaker 1: this experience. And once she feels better about herself and
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  Speaker 1: stronger in her own identity, whatever that is. And I
• 13:36
  Speaker 1: do think right now, the Mary that we're getting, even
• 13:38
  Speaker 1: on Instagram, it's a very fluid identity. I feel like
• 13:41
  Speaker 1: she's still trying to find herself. But once she does,
• 13:44
  Speaker 1: I think her messaging is going to be a lot clearer. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: whether we like it or not, I think we're going
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  Speaker 1: to understand at least where she's coming from. But right now,
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  Speaker 1: I'm just like, you still ingratiating yourself to Cody. You're
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  Speaker 1: still caping for Cody, right You're still advocating for Cody.
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  Speaker 1: Even when you're taking some digs, You're still defending him.
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  Speaker 1: And I don't respect it.
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  Speaker 4: I don't either, and maybe that's why she's tearing everybody
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  Speaker 4: else down because she doesn't. She doesn't feel like she
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  Speaker 4: can with Cody and Robin, like maybe they're kind of
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  Speaker 4: scary to her or something.
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  Speaker 1: Well, but she's starting to talking. She's calling her relationship
• 14:16
  Speaker 1: with Robin non reciprocal. She's not calling Cody out for
• 14:21
  Speaker 1: talking to her badly, like there are some She is
• 14:23
  Speaker 1: using her friends as mouthpieces, obviously, because she's still not
• 14:26
  Speaker 1: confident enough. The way I would be blowing up his spot,
• 14:29
  Speaker 1: the way I would be having some sort of a
• 14:31
  Speaker 1: PowerPoint presentation with the receipts, That's what I would be doing.
• 14:36
  Speaker 1: Mary is obviously not me. But hopefully we can get
• 14:39
  Speaker 1: her there over the next few years. That would be delightful,
• 14:43
  Speaker 1: so great, so good.
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  Speaker 4: That would be such good TV. Yes, so anyway, thank
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  Speaker 4: you anonymous raccoon.
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  Speaker 10: That was great.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, all right. Next one we have is from Alie.
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  Speaker 2: Alie, Hello, ladies, This is Ali from the Baltimore Dumpster
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  Speaker 2: here in Maryland, and.
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  Speaker 3: I love your podcast, and I know everybody says that,
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  Speaker 3: so I'm sorry for repeating that, but I just have
• 15:08
  Speaker 3: a thought when I hear Robin talk about Cody no
• 15:13
  Speaker 3: longer being involved with his kids. I really do feel
• 15:18
  Speaker 3: like she cares, but I think that like she's so
• 15:21
  Speaker 3: mentally underdeveloped that she doesn't realize that the actions that
• 15:26
  Speaker 3: she's helped him make over all of these years has
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  Speaker 3: destroyed that relationship. I genuinely don't think that she understands
• 15:35
  Speaker 3: that her actions are what have her actions and Cody's
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  Speaker 3: actions have are what have caused this.
• 15:41
  Speaker 2: I think that she thinks, oh, well, if they come
• 15:43
  Speaker 2: over for Christmas and you know, we shoot in the
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  Speaker 2: text every once in a while, like it's gonna be fine.
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  Speaker 2: Even though my kids are number one, it's okay, you
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  Speaker 2: can still have a relationship with them. I really think
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: that's what she wants, but like she doesn't realize that
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  Speaker 2: that's not how that works anyway. Love, you have a
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: great day.
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  Speaker 11: Hard disagree, Yeah, hard disagree, Although I appreciate the sentiment,
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  Speaker 11: and I think there are actually a lot of people
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  Speaker 11: out there that feel that way about Robin, Like she's
• 16:18
  Speaker 11: kind of yeah, she's orchestrating it, but.
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: It's almost unconscious. She doesn't really know the effect that
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: her actions have on the family, Like and I think
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: a lot of people feel a lot of people feel
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: that way, but I don't. I think she absolutely understands.
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: I think when we see her and Cody in the
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: driveway with that fake, performed argument, we see her trying
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: to rehabilitate her image, it's because she knows. It's because
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: she knows how she's coming across. It's because she knows
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: the group chat for Christmas has been leaked. It's because
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: she's thinking about how she wants to present herself in
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: front of other people. And that's because I think she's
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: fucking cunning and again, not super intelligent, but I think
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: she's cunning. I think she has the instinct for manipulation,
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: and I'm just I'm just not agreeing with that. I
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: think that gives her way too much of an out
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: I give. I think that gives her way too much grace.
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: I think she's diabolical, bitch. I think we're seeing demon
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: demon principalities power when we're looking at Robin Brown.
• 17:24
  Speaker 9: Well, I don't know.
• 17:24
  Speaker 4: I mean I could see like a world where if
• 17:28
  Speaker 4: she's truly a narc that we know she is. You know,
• 17:31
  Speaker 4: narcs think that what they're doing is always good enough,
• 17:34
  Speaker 4: Like they don't ever think that they're wrong, or that
• 17:37
  Speaker 4: they're doing anything wrong.
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: Or that there are raccoons with monocles who can clock them.
• 17:41
  Speaker 4: Exactly, and they think that, like with their relationships with people,
• 17:44
  Speaker 4: that they're the fucking best, Like they think that they're
• 17:46
  Speaker 4: doing everything right. So I mean, I could see a
• 17:48
  Speaker 4: world where maybe she does think that just Cody, you know,
• 17:53
  Speaker 4: sending them a text every once in a while or
• 17:55
  Speaker 4: seeing them once a year or whatever could be good enough,
• 17:58
  Speaker 4: because I've seen that in my own family, Like I
• 18:01
  Speaker 4: see that with people I know in my life that
• 18:03
  Speaker 4: think that that's enough effort, Like that's that's okay, that's
• 18:07
  Speaker 4: enough effort for our relationship to be okay. I'm not
• 18:10
  Speaker 4: saying I'm not justifying that, obviously, because we all know
• 18:14
  Speaker 4: that that's wrong and we all know that that's not
• 18:16
  Speaker 4: a way to conduct a healthy relationship. And I don't
• 18:19
  Speaker 4: even think it gives her an out. I just think
• 18:21
  Speaker 4: that because she's such a fucking narcissist and she's so
• 18:23
  Speaker 4: fucking delusional, she probably does think that she's done nothing wrong.
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: Or bent over backwards? Isn't that what she said? Yes
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: last week's episode, I bent over backwards to make sure
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: that Cody contacted his wives and stayed in touch with
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: his children.
• 18:35
  Speaker 4: I was being gas lit the whole entire time.
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: You think she believes that she bent over backwards, You
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: think I don't. I think I think she's just trying
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: to sell us a bill of goods as the audience,
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: so that we believe that she bent over backwards. I
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: think she knows that she did not. And now that
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: the family has been destroyed. Yeah, we have kids out
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: here and wives out here who feel like they've been
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: treated unfairly, what are you doing to make it right?
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: And if you've got kids out here saying you stole
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: from us, or wives who are saying you took from us,
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: what are you doing now to make it right? We
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: don't see any of that. So if she had that awareness,
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: and she really truly cared about this family, why wouldn't
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: she be taking necessary action now to fix it?
• 19:18
  Speaker 4: Because she's a nark and narks don't actually care. It's like,
• 19:21
  Speaker 4: that's why a lot of families go no contact, because
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: it's like, Okay, you're not gonna change, You're not gonna
• 19:26
  Speaker 4: make any effort, Like you can't even see the error
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: in your ways because you think everybody else is doing
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: you wrong, Like this is class a narcissism right here.
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: I mean, it's so ridiculous.
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: Okay, that's a little different from what Ali I think
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: is talking about. Ali is talking about somebody who's oblivious, underdeveloped,
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: just doesn't understand. Oh my god, you mean I contributed
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: to the downfall of this whole. No, absolutely not. No,
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: Now a narcissist. I can see how they would be
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: self deluding, although again I say, I think she's fully
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: aware of what.
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: She probably yeah, she probably is, but thank you Allie
• 20:02
  Speaker 4: put up a.
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: Pole to ask people whether they think that Robin is
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: doing this on purpose, which is all Instagram plan, yes,
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: you shoot on Instagram, or whether we think that she's
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: just like this unconscious person person it has no idea
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: how this happen. Lost my identity, bitch.
• 20:22
  Speaker 4: You still a YouTube pole too? Yeah, I won't, but
• 20:25
  Speaker 4: I know I'll forget, I know, bober All right, next
• 20:31
  Speaker 4: time we have is from Catherine.
• 20:33
  Speaker 5: Hello Raccoons. This is Catherine in California, and I have
• 20:39
  Speaker 5: a suspicion that the reason Mary was having her friends
• 20:42
  Speaker 5: talk about Cody for her was because she really felt
• 20:46
  Speaker 5: a threat about the land and she wanted to be
• 20:50
  Speaker 5: as careful as possible while still getting to share some
• 20:54
  Speaker 5: through her friends. And of course, as we see in
• 20:56
  Speaker 5: the later talking heads where she appears slimmer and time
• 21:00
  Speaker 5: had gone by, I think that she'd begun more of
• 21:03
  Speaker 5: her processing that all of this was really over, forever forever,
• 21:12
  Speaker 5: and that as long as their relationship had been delayed
• 21:15
  Speaker 5: with the divorce, she feels this land decision won't be
• 21:18
  Speaker 5: over soon enough for her to spill some things about
• 21:22
  Speaker 5: her past with Cody.
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: Forever, ever, forever. That's interesting and I think we did
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: opine something like this. Yeah, like that maybe she's being
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: a little bit more reserved but allowing her friends to
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: kind of take bites out of him because she still
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: has some stakes, whether that's financial or otherwise. Yeah, that
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: does make sense to me. And she did say in
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: the most recent interview with Entertainment Weekly that we talked
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: about I think last time, she said that the property
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: stuff is still being handled, still being worked through, so
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: it's not resolved. It'll probably be addressed in the next season. Yeah,
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: So that makes some to me that she might be
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: withholding her full on fire and vitriol for Cody and
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: Robin until that shit is taken care.
• 22:07
  Speaker 4: Of probably, Yeah, And I mean she can't hold back
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: all of her pettiness though, so that's why she's got
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: to have her friend's talk for her, which makes sense.
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: But also I'm just like, why don't you just go
• 22:18
  Speaker 4: balls to the wall, Like what can you do? I mean,
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: I don't think could they use it against you and
• 22:24
  Speaker 4: Core if you're like talking shit?
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: No, I mean that we're talking about property here, the
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: vision of property.
• 22:30
  Speaker 4: Absolutely not just let it out, Yeah, just be your
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: full authentic self.
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, But she's a bit of a coward. She is
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: a bit and she's a bit emotionally stunted.
• 22:39
  Speaker 7: Sorry.
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: I know that we have a lot of Mary stands,
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: but like she is not comfortable at least in these
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: various conversations with the randos she's bringing in. Yeah, episode
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: to episodes, she's not fully comfortable yet saying these things
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: out loud and or with her full chest. I do
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: hope we get there. I have a little bit of
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: hope that we might please. I do think it's in
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: her capricorn nature to be to do that. But like
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: she's just not she's processing, like this person loves her
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: name Katherine, Thank you Catherine. You know my mom's name
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: is Katherine and she was from California. Oh my god,
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: she's from southern California. I'm like, that's so sweet. So
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: I like that name. Yeah, it's a.
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: Pretty it is, all right. Next one we have is
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: from Jen.
• 23:20
  Speaker 9: I will without hey, ladies. Jen here a raccoon from
• 23:23
  Speaker 9: podaf New Hampshire. Love the show. Keep doing what you're doing,
• 23:27
  Speaker 9: like you, ladies. I also have many opinions, especially when
• 23:30
  Speaker 9: it comes to the dumpster fire that is Sister Wives.
• 23:34
  Speaker 9: So we've heard a lot of things about Mary in
• 23:37
  Speaker 9: regards to her relationships within the family. You know, people
• 23:40
  Speaker 9: have made comments about her being mean and abusive, and
• 23:44
  Speaker 9: I just wonder if that stems from her feelings around
• 23:47
  Speaker 9: not being able to have multiple children like the other wives,
• 23:51
  Speaker 9: and it has caused her to essentially be resentful, not
• 23:54
  Speaker 9: just towards the other wives, but towards the other children
• 23:57
  Speaker 9: as well. You know, we've seen her have a totally
• 24:00
  Speaker 9: different relationship with Robin's kids, who are not biologically Cody's kids,
• 24:07
  Speaker 9: and then with salin Aari. You know, we've all seen
• 24:10
  Speaker 9: Cody make it very clear that when Robin came into
• 24:13
  Speaker 9: the family, his relationships with the other wives were solely
• 24:17
  Speaker 9: dependent on how they treated Robin, and I think Mary
• 24:20
  Speaker 9: just dove all into relationship with Robin as a means
• 24:23
  Speaker 9: of gaining favor with Cody, and their kids together were
• 24:26
  Speaker 9: just sort of an extension of that. Anyway, just my thoughts,
• 24:30
  Speaker 9: Not sure what your opinions are and all of that.
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: I mean, I could see it. I could see her
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: being resentful and projecting that onto the other kids because
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: she could only have one, and Mary's kind of a passive, aggressive,
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: slash aggressive person, so I mean I could see that
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: her taking that out on the relationships with the other
• 24:49
  Speaker 4: kids and the family with Cody and Robin's kids. I mean, yeah,
• 24:54
  Speaker 4: I could see her trying to get in their good
• 24:56
  Speaker 4: graces just so she could get into Cody's pants. I
• 24:59
  Speaker 4: can totally see.
• 25:00
  Speaker 10: Yeah.
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: I'm not sure if I'm feeling that what Mary was
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: doing with the kids with potentially allegedly overdisciplining them was
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: born of resentment. I think, if anything, it might have
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: been an overcompensation, like wanting to be a parent, like
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: wanting to do what parents do, like we discipline our
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: kids and this is how parents act, and maybe wanting
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: to show up so badly as a parent that she
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: showed up kind of in a wrong way, and or
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: she's just one of a like a lot of us,
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: who came up in a very toxic, potentially abusive household,
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: and she did not know how to become a parent
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: or be a parent, so she didn't know what she
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: was doing. I don't know. And also I don't want
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: to diminish the experiences of the kids who experienced her
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: in a specific way as abusive and potentially allegedly putting
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: her hands on some of them and yelling at them.
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: We saw a couple of glimpses so far, we're still
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: going through the archives of Sister Wives. We've seen her
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: talk to mckelte in a very kind of dismissive, condescending,
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: and even humiliating tone, not necessarily overtly with words, but
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: like you could say, okay, well the cameras are down.
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: I can see her putting mckelt down, and mckoulty has
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: certainly alluded to that. And that's just character shit to me.
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: That's just like not knowing how to be a parent
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: and also not doing anything as an adult to ensure
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: that you're a better parent to children. So she didn't
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: know how to do it, and maybe she was just
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: wired that way and or compensating because she only had
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: that one kid.
• 26:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah, maybe taking out her unhappiness with her marriage with
• 26:40
  Speaker 4: Cody and unhappiness with plural marriage and these other wives
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: who are fucking her husband left and right and having
• 26:47
  Speaker 4: all these kids and she can't have only but one.
• 26:50
  Speaker 4: You know, like, maybe it's just taking it out on
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: everybody else because she's so angry. And Mary can't express
• 26:56
  Speaker 4: that anger or any emotion healthily. I mean, everything's always
• 27:00
  Speaker 4: walls up. Yeah, maybe that's why she has walls up too.
• 27:02
  Speaker 4: Maybe she realized that she was being abusive and toxic
• 27:06
  Speaker 4: and bad, and she puts everything behind a wall. Now
• 27:10
  Speaker 4: now we have emotionless Mary because she can't figure out
• 27:13
  Speaker 4: how to deal with her shit.
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: Right, Maybe that's her way of trying to moderate her
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: behavior because she knows that it's not necessarily healthy, and
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: so it's better to just not emote and or not express,
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: and so instead she just kind of tucks it away.
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: I'm not sure. I'm really not sure. I would just
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: love to hear them speak about this more. And I
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: know Peyden said in that one interview he did with
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: that guy John Yates, I forget what his name is,
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: but that interview that he did last season, he said,
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: when the show is over, I will talk more about
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: Mary and specific I will talk more about all of
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: these things, and so the kids will feel more comfortable,
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: apparently when the money's gone. Yeah, to sort of step
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: up and say something. Wow, though, Peyden, I think it
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: would be so much more interesting if you did it. Now,
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: are you even being paid by TLC?
• 28:04
  Speaker 4: Now?
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: Are you being paid by your family? Maybe they're starting
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: to pay him maybe now he has an incentive to
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: wait until the show's over. But like, let's be talk,
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: let's be let's out abusers.
• 28:14
  Speaker 4: Now, I know, right, Like, why do we have to wait,
• 28:16
  Speaker 4: let's talk about that in the family. Why are we
• 28:18
  Speaker 4: making them comfortable?
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: I don't I don't know.
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah, sorry, I didn't mean to cut you know.
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: You're absolutely right. Yeah, this is the kind of thing
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: like that I would want to be getting at if
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: I was a producer of a show, Like if I
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: had kids that felt that they were abused by one
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: of the primary members of the show, I would want
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: to have those conversations. But they're just covering up for
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: all of these people who are potentially allegedly abusers. I'm
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: not saying Mary was. Yeah, I don't even know really
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: what happened, but maybe more conversations around that would be good.
• 28:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but we can never get anything real with the
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: Brown family.
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: No, so slippery yep yep.
• 28:50
  Speaker 4: All right, Well we have one more huh and it's
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: from an anonymous records.
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: Always scare me because I never know if like somebody's
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: gonna come for.
• 28:58
  Speaker 4: Us, I know, or like say some bad All right, let's.
• 29:03
  Speaker 10: Hear its messages for D. I want to know more
• 29:08
  Speaker 10: about that fat cat. Hm, my name is Cornelius. You'll
• 29:14
  Speaker 10: be hearing from me again, but tell me about it.
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: That is my husband.
• 29:24
  Speaker 4: Well, you're more about that fat dude again again.
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: That is my husband.
• 29:30
  Speaker 10: It's messages for D. I want to know more about
• 29:34
  Speaker 10: that fat cat.
• 29:36
  Speaker 9: Mm hmm.
• 29:37
  Speaker 10: My name is Cornelius. You'll be hearing from me again,
• 29:42
  Speaker 10: but tell me about it.
• 29:44
  Speaker 4: We had to explain to him over Christmas what fat
• 29:48
  Speaker 4: cat meant.
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well you address some of my presents.
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: Yes, I wrapped up for him, so I put the
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: fat cat from Big Papa and he's like, what's fat cat?
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, Papa's feeling sexy tonight. We gotta be
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: shutting this down. I got something to do. Apparently I
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: got something to do tonight, Cornelia.
• 30:12
  Speaker 4: My god, you gotta call him that in the bedroom, Cornelia.
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: But how did you figure out how to call us
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: on speak? But that's a creative man. Everybody's so creative. Yes,
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: oh my god, that caught me off birds that voice
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: right there. Wow, I guess that's where we will leave this.
• 30:32
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I gotta go now.
• 30:34
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• 30:56
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• 30:58
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• 31:15
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• 31:16
  Speaker 1: Sorry, I can't get over this.
• 31:17
  Speaker 4: What the fat cat?
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: Oh my god. We will be back next week to
• 31:24
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• 31:28
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• 31:34
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• 31:36
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• 31:41
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