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24. The Astrology of Your Life Purpose with Marina Lynn · The Favourite Self Podcast

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  SPEAKER_00: I really believe the lunar nodes is what, like if we were talking from a business sense, it's what you came to offer the world.
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  SPEAKER_00: And it's it's like, how do we take our life path and turn it into our life's work?
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  SPEAKER_00: Because it's literally the path you're having to walk.
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  SPEAKER_00: So there's no one that can do it better than you.
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  SPEAKER_01: Welcome to the favorite self podcast.
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  SPEAKER_01: I like to think of it not as your future self or your best self, but your favorite self.
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  SPEAKER_01: My favorite self that just makes me feel the truest version of me.
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  SPEAKER_01: What lights your favorite self on fire?
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  SPEAKER_01: I'm Carly Ottaway, founder, author, storyteller, and a woman who learned that building a successful life means nothing if it doesn't feel like yours.
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  SPEAKER_01: This podcast is for women who are building businesses, raising families, leading movements, and asking themselves, is this it or is there more available to me?
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  SPEAKER_01: This is your invitation to come back to yourself.
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  SPEAKER_01: Let's dig in.
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  SPEAKER_01: Welcome back.
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  SPEAKER_01: I have an amazing guest for you today, someone that I thought of right away when I launched the podcast that I knew I had to have on because, of course, if I'm gonna be talking anything about astrology, I need to bring in the experts to be able to speak to exactly what is going on, especially right now in this huge transit I feel like we are navigating.
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  SPEAKER_01: So I am so excited to have Marina here today.
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  SPEAKER_01: Welcome, Marina.
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  SPEAKER_01: Thank you so much for having me.
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  SPEAKER_01: I'm really, really excited to be here.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, our story goes back.
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  SPEAKER_01: You were just saying, even pulling up my chart from a past reading.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I still remember my reading, my first reading with you, and just how instrumental it was for me, really understanding specifically my south and north nodes and my chart.
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  SPEAKER_01: And we're gonna obviously get into that and what that means and how, and I'll share too how instrumental that knowledge and just affirmation has been for me and how much clarity it's brought me.
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  SPEAKER_01: And now I reference it all the time with clients and also tie that into their own, you know, story and brand story as well.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I think it's such a game changer.
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  SPEAKER_01: So I would love to start off with your story and really how your own healing journey, which I know you have such an incredible story, led you to evolutionary astrology and eventually became your life's work that you do today.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, well, yeah, that's it's a big, big journey still unfolding.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, but I guess really how I found evolutionary astrology is I was working downtown corporate job.
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  SPEAKER_00: I was working as an event planner for a financial firm, and it was exciting, but very busy.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I was getting run down and burnt out.
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  SPEAKER_00: And then I remember there was this period of time where all these big things happened at once.
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  SPEAKER_00: It was like, you know, the big three.
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  SPEAKER_00: They always say that big things happen in threes.
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  SPEAKER_00: And it's like, okay, I just hit a rock bottom.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I remember telling my roommate, I was like, I'm just going the wrong way.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like it, I was like, I need a complete 180.
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  SPEAKER_00: And that's even before I knew the lunar nodes are actually a 180.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I ended up packing up my bags.
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  SPEAKER_00: I got rid of my apartment, I got rid of everything in it, left my job, and my 180 was going to work in a farm in Denmark.
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  SPEAKER_00: Well, on a farm in Denmark.
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  SPEAKER_00: And here it was really great because you're just working in the garden.
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  SPEAKER_00: So you can listen to podcasts, you can have music and and stuff like that.
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  SPEAKER_00: So that's when I discovered um the cosmic calling podcast by Soul Shine Astrology.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I remember her talking, there was an episode about the lunar nodes, and I was like, oh, what is this?
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  SPEAKER_00: Like my whole body just lit up, and I was like, I want to know more.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I just like dove down a rabbit hole.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I remember reading like my south node and like what patterns I was like reliving in this lifetime.
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  SPEAKER_00: And it was like, whoa.
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  SPEAKER_00: Uh like no one could have described it more clearly to me.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like, no therapist.
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  SPEAKER_00: I've been like, you know, therapy and counseling, no one could have just near to back that perfectly.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so it was just full permission to be like, this is actually what I've come here to experience.
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  SPEAKER_00: And um that was really deeply healing.
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  SPEAKER_00: And then there's also this beautiful piece where it's like, oh, and then this is where I'm going, and this is where my soul wants to grow next.
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  SPEAKER_00: And that also felt really exciting because there's like this newfound clarity where I was like in a period of my life feeling really kind of confused on what to do next or what was right for me.
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  SPEAKER_00: So um, that's when I really just dove headfirst into learning everything about evolutionary astrology because I found it so deeply healing and I really just wanted to share that wisdom with others because I felt like the North Node was this hidden thing in astrology no one was really talking about at the time.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I still feel like it feels that way for the majority.
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  SPEAKER_01: And, you know, even my audience of listeners tuning in right now, can you actually just share?
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  SPEAKER_01: Like, let's back up a little bit and just share a little bit about the lunar nodes, what they are, why they're important, and also what your own are.
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  SPEAKER_01: And and just tie in Sun, Moon, and Rising as well.
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  SPEAKER_01: Cause I've talked about that a little bit, but just if you could kind of speak to each one, give us a little quick uh description of why they matter, how they show up in your chart and in your life, and if you can share your own, we would love to hear as well.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, absolutely.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I think the easiest way to put it is if you were to pull up your birth chart, just like you would look for your sun sign or just like you would look for your moon sign.
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  SPEAKER_00: There's also a symbol.
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  SPEAKER_00: Well, there's two, and one of them looks like a it looks like headphones, and that's your north node.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's the direction your soul is here to grow in this life.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, it's really your growth edge, but it's also where you're gonna find the most joy and um fulfillment in this life the more that you move towards it.
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  SPEAKER_00: And then directly opposite, because they're always directly apart from one another, they're always 180, and that's your south node.
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  SPEAKER_00: And that really represents your you like your comfort zone where you've been, the lifetimes you've mastered over and over again.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's really your default pattern when you come into this life, and it creates that kind of subconscious program, programming that we're operating out of a lot of the time.
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  SPEAKER_00: So that symbol looks just like the North node, but it's an upside-down horseshoe.
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  SPEAKER_00: So you can picture the same symbol, just flipped.
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  SPEAKER_00: So if you were looking at your chart, you would look for those two symbols.
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  SPEAKER_00: And what that really represents is a story.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's your story in this life.
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  SPEAKER_00: How you're moving from that point A to point B and all the lessons you learn while you walk on that path.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's your purpose.
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  SPEAKER_00: The purpose is not your north node, it's not getting to your north node, putting the flag in the ground and being like, I made it.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's who you're becoming as you walk on that path.
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  SPEAKER_00: Your north node is the guiding, it's your north star.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's the guiding light that you always want to be walking towards.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's really helping you make your decisions in life.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I feel like you just sent out an email yesterday talking about I think the Big Bang.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I feel like in evolutionary astrology, like the north node is that what you were referring to, the big bang.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, so that's really, you know, what your north node is.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's your guiding light in this life.
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  SPEAKER_00: And the more that you make decisions from it, the more that you're gonna find fulfillment in this life.
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  SPEAKER_01: Oh, I really love that distinction that it's not the finish line of arriving at the sign and what it represents.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's everything that you experience and overcome along the way.
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  SPEAKER_01: And we tend to get so we lose track of that, right?
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  SPEAKER_01: And we felt we're so future forward focused instead of being present in truly recognizing what we're navigating right now and who we're becoming in that timeline.
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  SPEAKER_01: And yes, the the big bang is um part of a process by I'm reading clockwork by Mike McAllowitz.
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  SPEAKER_01: If anyone wants to check it out, I'm really enjoying it so far.
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  SPEAKER_01: And he calls it the Big Bang, which is really like ultimately your purpose, your why.
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  SPEAKER_01: And so that's why I love this work so much and specifically the lunar nodes, because it ties in so deeply to your business.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I know a lot of our listeners and my friends and people in my community are feeling this like real communal shift right now.
• 8:42
  SPEAKER_01: We're gonna, we're gonna get into that, but especially around this feeling of like it's kind of a different type of burnout or exhaustion.
• 8:49
  SPEAKER_01: And I really believe it's because we've been just trying to follow a very specific framework or way of working and way of building businesses.
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  SPEAKER_01: I mean, if you're in corporate in that world, like it's, you know, this framework that you've just been plopped into that doesn't isn't customized for you and your way of working at all.
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  SPEAKER_01: We know as women we operate so differently from men, just in terms of like a cyclical, you know, format and where the nine to five is created for that the men in the world, it's not for us.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I think just knowing your astrology and really understanding the transits and how they're impacting us collectively and you individually is just so affirming and and brings so much clarity.
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  SPEAKER_01: So I love how you explain that.
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  SPEAKER_01: And would you say, because a lot of people are even at the point where they're still understanding like the difference between your sun, sun and your moon sign and your rising sign?
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  SPEAKER_01: So um when you're, you know, paying attention, when you're feeling like something is shifting and you really want to understand your chart, would you as is are the lunar nodes like your go-to from that perspective?
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  SPEAKER_01: Like, how would you navigate that?
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: So to me, the north node is the most important point in the entire birth chart.
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  SPEAKER_00: I think it's more important than your sun sign because it is literally the north star of your chart.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's guiding the rest of your entire chart.
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  SPEAKER_00: You literally cannot understand why you are the sun sign you are until you understand your north node, because that is giving context.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's giving you the story, and then your sun sign is the character you are in the story.
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  SPEAKER_00: So when we look at astrology as like, okay, what's your sun, your moon, and your rising?
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  SPEAKER_00: And you find that out, you're like, okay, great, but like what am I doing with it?
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  SPEAKER_00: There's no context.
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  SPEAKER_00: So it's like it's nice to know, let's understand the story first, and then you can understand the character you're playing.
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  SPEAKER_00: Your moon sign is what you need on that path.
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  SPEAKER_00: I like to think of it as your backpack.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like, what are you putting in your backpack as you go on the journey?
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  SPEAKER_00: Because those are the things you're gonna need.
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  SPEAKER_00: And then your rising sign, it's really about like how people first see you.
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  SPEAKER_00: So it's how you first shine when you meet someone.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, I never get personally, I don't get too hung up on the rising sign because I think the more that we, as we get older, we actually become even more stronger in our sun sign.
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  SPEAKER_00: And we don't feel like we need to perform through that comfort of our our rising anymore as much.
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  SPEAKER_00: So you can think of the three as an onion.
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  SPEAKER_00: When you first meet someone, you're gonna meet them as the rising sign.
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  SPEAKER_00: Spend a few weeks with them, you'll start to see their sun sign, live with them, and you'll see their moon sign.
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  SPEAKER_01: So accurate.
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  SPEAKER_01: So accurate.
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  SPEAKER_01: I love that description.
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  SPEAKER_01: So let's actually bring in some specific examples because I know when I'm listening to any astrology podcast, I'm like, okay, give me the actual signs, like help me see myself through this.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um, so can you share your own?
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  SPEAKER_01: I don't come back, circle back to your own south and north node and just like how that's shown up in your life and your world and also your sun, moon, and rising and from that analogy too.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
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  SPEAKER_00: So my south node is in Gemini in the eighth house.
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  SPEAKER_00: So that's my comfort zone.
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  SPEAKER_00: Those are the the things that I am already really good at.
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  SPEAKER_00: I've mastered over many lifetimes, and I can come into this life, and it feels like these things I'm naturally gifted at.
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  SPEAKER_00: Things like astrology.
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  SPEAKER_00: The eighth house is the underworld.
• 12:33
  SPEAKER_00: It's things that rule like psychology and esoterics, and we think of like tarot, and so it's like all these like it's really like understanding energetic patterns and tools that help us understand energetic patterns.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's really what the eighth house is all about.
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  SPEAKER_00: And then it's also about other people, so other people's money, other people's thoughts, other people's resources.
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  SPEAKER_00: And because it's in the sign of Gemini, it's a lot of my ability to understand other people on this mental level, which makes sense using astrology to help understand other people's lives.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, so you would say maybe what I'm doing is kind of South Nodey.
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  SPEAKER_00: But what we want to do is take those gifts of our South Node and bring them through the lens of our North Node in this life.
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  SPEAKER_00: So, yes, if I continue to stay here and just do this, it won't feel as fulfilling as if I actually then apply it to my own life because my north node's in Sagittarius, and Sagittarius is the philosopher, the world traveler.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, it's embodied wisdom.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's not just information, it's like, how are you actually living this on a day-to-day basis?
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  SPEAKER_00: How are you integrating it?
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  SPEAKER_00: And it's in the second house.
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  SPEAKER_00: So it's really about um creating value in my life from this work.
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  SPEAKER_00: So creating like income from it, things that will actually create safety and stability for myself.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so it's more about how can I use this wisdom I've applied I've learned from many lifetimes to create my own safety for myself, my own income in this life.
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  SPEAKER_00: How can I apply it to my own life and actually live it daily?
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  SPEAKER_00: So that's kind of my path with the lunar notes.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: So beautiful.
• 14:25
  SPEAKER_01: Wow, I love that.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I always need to get stronger in the houses because I'm immediately thinking my own north and south node, my south node's Virgo, my north node's Pisces, but I think my south node of just pulling out my charts in the fourth house.
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  SPEAKER_01: So tell is that right?
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  SPEAKER_00: Okay, so this is the other thing that we can talk about too.
• 14:45
  SPEAKER_00: So there's placidus house system and there's whole sign house system.
• 14:49
  SPEAKER_00: So depending on what system you use, it will put your signs in different houses.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, I like to use Placidus House system because evolutionary astrology just typically it's rooted in that system.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, but a lot of people I know like to use the whole sign house system.
• 15:06
  SPEAKER_00: So it's whatever resonates for you, but it will move your chart.
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  SPEAKER_00: So, like when I did your reading a few years ago, I used Placidus.
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  SPEAKER_00: So it was in the fifth house, your south node, north node in the 11th.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: And what does that mean?
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: So for you, your south node is in the fifth house.
• 15:25
  SPEAKER_00: So we think of um that the fifth house is really the house of self-expression and creativity.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's also the house of it rolls up children, romance, pleasure.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's really this like it's the house of hobbies.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's like what we're doing for fun and what we what brings us pleasure.
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  SPEAKER_00: And when it's in the sign of Virgo, I think of someone who's an editor.
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  SPEAKER_00: It really like you're a fixer, you're a practical healer.
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  SPEAKER_00: So maybe we think of someone in a prior life who is in editing someone else's creative work, you know?
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, and or being a practical supporter for others who are creatives.
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  SPEAKER_00: And now with your north node in Pisces in the 11th house, it's about how can you become less of a practical healer and more of a spiritual healer?
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  SPEAKER_00: So, how can you take the practical but also merge it with the magical?
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  SPEAKER_00: And how can you do that on a collective level?
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  SPEAKER_00: Because it's in the 11th house.
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  SPEAKER_00: So your soul really wants to make a ripple effect in this life.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's about this movement and it's re it's reaching a large group of people, and you want to express your own creativity in this life in a very Pisces way, which is very creative, dreamy, flowy, it's intuitive, it's spiritual.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, so these are the qualities that you're going to be sharing.
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  SPEAKER_00: So you're releasing kind of the that that fixer, that detail-oriented person, and just kind of surrendering more into this intuitive way of sharing your work.
• 17:04
  SPEAKER_00: And then that's also the gift that you offer others.
• 17:08
  SPEAKER_00: That's what you also help others do.
• 17:10
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, I love that piece because it really is like your own transit is mirrored in how you the impact that you have and how you're able to help others.
• 17:20
  SPEAKER_01: That's for everyone, right?
• 17:21
  SPEAKER_00: Not just Yeah, like I really believe the lunar nodes is what, like, if we were talking from a business sense, it's what you came to offer the world.
• 17:31
  SPEAKER_00: And it's it's like, how do we take our life path and turn it into our life's work?
• 17:35
  SPEAKER_00: Because it's literally the path you're having to walk.
• 17:39
  SPEAKER_00: So there's no one that can do it better than you.
• 17:41
  SPEAKER_00: You're having to go through, like, you know, all the pain points, you know those threshold moments, and you've walked it and you've lived it.
• 17:51
  SPEAKER_00: And so now that's the gift that you're gonna be sharing with others.
• 17:55
  SPEAKER_00: And I truly believe like the more that we can bring the North Node into our business, the more you're never gonna outgrow your business because it's just growing with you.
• 18:05
  SPEAKER_01: And this is the power of I believe, this new paradigm that we're stepping into.
• 18:09
  SPEAKER_01: And I know we're getting even more woo here, but there is this like massive shift that we're experiencing.
• 18:16
  SPEAKER_01: And I believe it's gonna be so much more tied to our lunar nodes and exactly what you're saying.
• 18:21
  SPEAKER_01: When we are in alignment with our unique gifts and our lived experience, we literally can make a living, a very abundant living, being ourselves.
• 18:31
  SPEAKER_01: We you get to be get paid for being you.
• 18:34
  SPEAKER_01: And there's so much in your chart.
• 18:35
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, I like to bring in human design for this as well that can really help you navigate that in your own unique gifts and also the wounds and the blocks and the shadow work that you're navigating too.
• 18:49
  SPEAKER_01: And before we jump into that, I will share a bit of a concrete example because I've I've recorded a podcast episode on my the evolution of my speaking.
• 18:58
  SPEAKER_01: And I feel like it's a great example of the lunar node transit and how it's impacted my how I show up and share my message.
• 19:07
  SPEAKER_01: And so before exactly what you were saying, I loved to edit myself too.
• 19:12
  SPEAKER_01: And and I, of course, like started my career in journalism, you know, was editing so many other people's stories, and I was so comfortable communicating behind the keyboard when I could edit and I could perfect it like very Virgo energy.
• 19:25
  SPEAKER_01: And then I've really stepped into, especially more recently, when I am speaking on stages, I used to like be feel like I needed to be so scripted because I was most comfortable communicating through writing.
• 19:36
  SPEAKER_01: So I needed to write out what I wanted to say, and then I had to memorize it like word by word, but that wasn't working for me.
• 19:42
  SPEAKER_01: It was actually only getting in my way.
• 19:45
  SPEAKER_01: And when I'm in that true like Pisces energy of being so intuitive with the talk I need to give.
• 19:51
  SPEAKER_01: And, you know, it takes practice.
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  SPEAKER_01: I'm not saying I just suddenly show up on stage and like a download comes through in that moment.
• 19:56
  SPEAKER_01: It but it's so much more intuitive and it in flow.
• 19:59
  SPEAKER_01: And I can really speak to what I'm channeling truly in that moment based on the room I'm speaking to and really reading the energy and the magic of that.
• 20:08
  SPEAKER_01: And it's been so such a game changer.
• 20:12
  SPEAKER_00: Wow.
• 20:13
  SPEAKER_00: I feel like that is such a perfect example of like you grow, yeah, you growing into that north node energy and releasing some of those Virgo South Node tendencies.
• 20:23
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm curious, like, has this do you feel like has it really amped up during because you've been going through your north node return, right?
• 20:31
  SPEAKER_00: Mm-hmm.
• 20:31
  SPEAKER_00: So do you feel like this is really amped up during this or even before?
• 20:36
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, first can you just explain a little bit about the north node return for everybody?
• 20:40
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so your north node return is when the north node, it's exactly what it sounds like, it's when the north node returns to where it was in your birth chart when you were born.
• 20:50
  SPEAKER_00: So it's gonna be right though where the north node is in the sky right now is aligned directly with where it was in the sky when you were born.
• 20:59
  SPEAKER_01: And is that in terms of the house or how does that work?
• 21:02
  SPEAKER_00: We will be in the same house as well for you.
• 21:05
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 21:05
  SPEAKER_00: So um, this happens around age 37 to 38.
• 21:10
  SPEAKER_00: And your north node return is really a to me, it's a deepening.
• 21:15
  SPEAKER_00: It's not a chaotic energy.
• 21:17
  SPEAKER_00: That's more of your Saturn return.
• 21:19
  SPEAKER_00: You're getting uprooted, you're having to learn like what are you getting serious about?
• 21:23
  SPEAKER_00: And that's really when we commit or let go of big things in our life.
• 21:27
  SPEAKER_00: Um, so the the north node return is more of like you're you've already understood.
• 21:31
  SPEAKER_00: You've probably already heard the whispers of your north node, you've probably already started aligning to it.
• 21:36
  SPEAKER_00: And now it's just like a deepening of it.
• 21:38
  SPEAKER_00: You're like, oh, like I really get it now.
• 21:41
  SPEAKER_00: I'm really in this energy now.
• 21:43
  SPEAKER_00: It's just like you're you just really embodying it.
• 21:46
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that makes so much sense because I mean, last year I wrote and well finished writing and published my book, which was very much in like the writing side of it and you know, the editing, and like then that is what led to.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_01: To these different stages that I've been able had the opportunity to speak on more recently.
• 22:05
  SPEAKER_01: And I think, you know, I mean, there's nothing like the act of writing your story in a book that's gonna give you more clarity on what you're here to say.
• 22:13
  SPEAKER_01: And that's why I always say, like, when it comes to speaking or sharing your story, you are the expert of your story.
• 22:19
  SPEAKER_01: And yes, absolutely.
• 22:20
  SPEAKER_01: Often we need to do a lot of work to really get clear on what that is and what we're sharing.
• 22:25
  SPEAKER_01: But when you have that clarity and you've built that muscle and you've put in those reps, it starts to become so much more naturally and flowy for you to share.
• 22:36
  SPEAKER_01: So I absolutely feel that deepening because of all the work that I've done that has led me here.
• 22:42
  SPEAKER_01: And that's why I feel like again, I'm stepping into this other shift of like things are just like clicking now in a way that I've been waiting for.
• 22:50
  SPEAKER_01: Since releasing my book, Coming Home, one of the things I've heard again and again is that it feels like a mirror.
• 22:58
  SPEAKER_01: Women have told me it felt like having a late night conversation with a friend, that it really helped them see their own courage, their own heartbreaks, their own hopes, and the parts of themselves still waiting for permission.
• 23:10
  SPEAKER_01: And honestly, that's exactly why I wrote it.
• 23:13
  SPEAKER_01: Coming home is for the woman who is building a business, a family, a life, a dream, and looking to do it in a way that actually feels true to who she is.
• 23:23
  SPEAKER_01: It's a book about healing, storytelling, motherhood, ambition, identity, and the courage to build your own path when the one in front of you doesn't quite fit.
• 23:33
  SPEAKER_01: So if you've been craving a reminder that you are allowed to want more, become more, and still come home to yourself in the process, I think you would love coming home.
• 23:43
  SPEAKER_01: You can grab your copy through the link in the show notes.
• 23:47
  SPEAKER_00: It's it's almost like you've understood it on a rational level, but now it's in your like it's down here in your body.
• 23:54
  SPEAKER_00: Does that make sense?
• 23:55
  SPEAKER_01: Like that's I feel like that's truly embodying it.
• 23:58
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you're like, it's truly like, oh, it's just like a whole, I don't know how to fully describe it, but that's the best way I can.
• 24:05
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 24:05
  SPEAKER_01: And just because you mentioned the Saturn return too for listeners, what is the age again for the Saturn return typically?
• 24:11
  SPEAKER_00: So a Saturn return is around age 27 to 30.
• 24:15
  SPEAKER_00: That's usually when we see people leave careers that they went to school for, they got degrees for, and they're like, actually, I don't want to learn this, I don't want to do this anymore.
• 24:24
  SPEAKER_00: You're in a long-term relationship and you're like, actually, this isn't my person, or you make a big move.
• 24:31
  SPEAKER_00: Um, so we see we because Saturn's asking, what do you want to build?
• 24:34
  SPEAKER_00: What are you getting serious about?
• 24:36
  SPEAKER_00: It's time to become an adult and take your life seriously.
• 24:39
  SPEAKER_00: So what does that look like?
• 24:41
  SPEAKER_01: Does that have anything to do with the South Node too?
• 24:44
  SPEAKER_01: Like the uprooting?
• 24:45
  SPEAKER_01: Is there an a connection there or no?
• 24:47
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so I always find the Saturn return is directly connected to your North Node because, well, Saturn's just such a karmic planet as well in evolutionary astrology.
• 24:57
  SPEAKER_00: And you're essentially whatever you're going to release and move towards is going to do with that north, the story of your north and south node.
• 25:07
  SPEAKER_00: So let's say, like, if you're like, yeah, this career, I can't believe I went to school, like, this is just not what I want to be doing.
• 25:15
  SPEAKER_00: That's because you've probably gone to school for something that's related to your south node.
• 25:20
  SPEAKER_00: And you've realized you're starting to feel the call towards your north node, which is gonna be a 180 from what you went to school for.
• 25:28
  SPEAKER_00: And it's really trusting that intuitive knowing we go through these major threshold moments.
• 25:34
  SPEAKER_00: We all experience them.
• 25:36
  SPEAKER_00: But if you're the one that's like, I'm the only one going through this chaos, why is not like why are none of my friends?
• 25:42
  SPEAKER_00: They're gonna go through it later.
• 25:44
  SPEAKER_00: And that's your uraneous opposition.
• 25:45
  SPEAKER_00: Like, if you didn't listen to it at your Saturn return, it's gonna come back around when you go through your Uranus opposition.
• 25:53
  SPEAKER_00: That's age 40 to 42, which we call the midlife crisis, which is really just an awakening.
• 25:59
  SPEAKER_00: And if you're on the path, I feel like it's not really chaotic.
• 26:05
  SPEAKER_00: It's just again a a different deepening.
• 26:08
  SPEAKER_00: But if you haven't been listening, which I've seen some people in my life are really going through that, that uh awakening energy because um, you know, you didn't really you didn't listen to those.
• 26:21
  SPEAKER_00: The whispers turn into screams.
• 26:23
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, exactly.
• 26:26
  SPEAKER_01: I love that.
• 26:27
  SPEAKER_01: And and I think it'd be fun just to share some other examples.
• 26:30
  SPEAKER_01: I a mutual friend of ours I was just speaking to yesterday, and she's gonna know who she is when we share her south and north nodes because she is South Node, Libra, North Node, Aries.
• 26:42
  SPEAKER_01: So very much going, and I'm not sure exactly the house it is, but we were talking about her.
• 26:47
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 26:49
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 26:50
  SPEAKER_01: So our conversation around in how it relates to business and what she's building is going from this, and it's really kind of how she's building and how she's marketing herself, going from this Libra people-pleasing kind of energy or like the nice girl, or really uh shying away from activating or triggering people and and wanting to, you know, yeah, be that kind of calm presence, or bringing the balance, I guess, to the Aries energy of like the fire of really speaking her truth and being willing to be bold and being willing to activate people and knowing that's actually her purpose and what she's here to do.
• 27:29
  SPEAKER_00: Mm-hmm.
• 27:30
  SPEAKER_00: Um, did you do you mean like she's feeling like she wants to bring a little bit back of her South Node into her?
• 27:36
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, okay.
• 27:36
  SPEAKER_01: She's just getting fully into North.
• 27:38
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 27:39
  SPEAKER_00: And I I see that all the time.
• 27:40
  SPEAKER_00: Every time she's showing up, I was like, Aries, like Aries energy.
• 27:45
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 27:45
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's great to see because I feel like a Libra South node, it's a it's definitely a tough one.
• 27:52
  SPEAKER_00: Um, to because I think it just naturally mirrors as women what we're so there's almost like a double layer to it because it's like, yeah, we're as women we're told like be nice, be considerate, put everyone before yourself, which is just like natural that Libra energy.
• 28:10
  SPEAKER_00: So there's almost like these two like two programs of it at the same time.
• 28:14
  SPEAKER_00: So I think she's doing a wonderful job navigating it.
• 28:16
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 28:17
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 28:18
  SPEAKER_01: I love that.
• 28:19
  SPEAKER_01: Are there any other examples you can share um of other South North Note transits that you how they've kind of shown up in for clients or in real life?
• 28:29
  SPEAKER_01: Anything else that you've seen recently?
• 28:32
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I feel well, actually, just speaking to that, I did recently just talk with a past client.
• 28:37
  SPEAKER_00: She's also Libra Aries.
• 28:39
  SPEAKER_00: Um, for her, it's her Libra South Note in the fourth house.
• 28:43
  SPEAKER_00: So, you know, this is a lot to do with her comfort zone, her home and family, and she really just wants to build a homestead and you know, have this like beautiful, peaceful home with her children.
• 28:55
  SPEAKER_00: And there's nothing wrong with that, but her north node in Aries in the 10th house is asking her, and this is again, how can we take our south node and move it through the lens of our north node?
• 29:07
  SPEAKER_00: So it's not necessarily asking her to abandon that desire, but how can then she make that her career?
• 29:16
  SPEAKER_00: So, how can you like how can you show up and share your the way you live to other people to inspire other families to live the way that they are living?
• 29:27
  SPEAKER_00: Um, because I think that that's how you bridge the two.
• 29:30
  SPEAKER_00: You don't have to give up one thing for the other.
• 29:32
  SPEAKER_00: I think it would be actually not in alignment if she was like, I need to be in this like business by myself and like away from her family.
• 29:41
  SPEAKER_00: She's a cancer son.
• 29:43
  SPEAKER_00: So that's when we start to see these other placements come in that really reinforce the story as well.
• 29:48
  SPEAKER_00: It's like, oh no, this is so meant for her, but the but like it has to be um something that supports her career.
• 29:57
  SPEAKER_00: It can't, she can't hide away at home and never be seen by others.
• 30:00
  SPEAKER_00: She's really here to have an impact and build something outside the home.
• 30:05
  SPEAKER_00: But what if you build something outside the home related to home?
• 30:09
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, I love that.
• 30:11
  SPEAKER_01: And I really also wanted to chat about Chiron as well.
• 30:14
  SPEAKER_01: And and I love your analogy again of like the path and the hike and the backpack.
• 30:19
  SPEAKER_01: And can you talk a bit about the wounded healer and how that plays into this journey as well?
• 30:26
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so Chiron is always a sensitive one in our charts.
• 30:30
  SPEAKER_00: It's our inner childhood wound, so we all have one.
• 30:35
  SPEAKER_00: Um, how the the myth goes that Chiron, he was um immortal and he gets hit by a poisonous arrow, and so he can't die.
• 30:45
  SPEAKER_00: So he's kind of just in this pain, and he's all he was a healer, but he just couldn't heal himself through this, which is kind of the ironic thing.
• 30:52
  SPEAKER_00: So he decides to um commit his life to helping heal others, can like keep continuing to do that work, even though he can't heal himself.
• 31:02
  SPEAKER_00: And so that's really kind of what it represents in our charts.
• 31:06
  SPEAKER_00: It's where we are wounded or sensitive or have a vulnerability, um, but we're actually just naturally gifted at helping others in that area because we understand what it's like to be vulnerable there.
• 31:20
  SPEAKER_00: So we've kind of like learned how to um nourish it and so we can offer that to others.
• 31:27
  SPEAKER_00: And so it how it shows up, I guess, in life and in business is it's really gonna be your key that unlocks your north node.
• 31:39
  SPEAKER_00: So, like, I'll give you uh an example.
• 31:42
  SPEAKER_00: So my north, um, so my Chiron is in Leo and a tenth house.
• 31:46
  SPEAKER_00: So it's a natural wound around being seen within like my career, or maybe I feel wounded about finding my purpose.
• 31:56
  SPEAKER_00: Like, what is my true work meant to be in this life?
• 31:59
  SPEAKER_00: What is my life's work?
• 32:00
  SPEAKER_00: So ironically, that's the very thing I help people find.
• 32:05
  SPEAKER_00: And the other layer is you can't fully unlock your north node until you heal that Chiron wound.
• 32:14
  SPEAKER_00: So I can't, my north node's in the second house.
• 32:17
  SPEAKER_00: I can't fully create my own income through this work until I let myself fully be seen.
• 32:25
  SPEAKER_00: Oh my gosh.
• 32:26
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, this is why once you once you dive into this, like you can't see it any other way.
• 32:31
  SPEAKER_01: And it's so powerful.
• 32:32
  SPEAKER_01: I feel, yeah, my Chiron's in Gemini remind me, Marina, what house?
• 32:37
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 32:37
  SPEAKER_00: So well, in Claudus, it's in your first house.
• 32:40
  SPEAKER_00: So you're really here to help people heal the wound of who am I?
• 32:44
  SPEAKER_00: And that like, how do you how do I share my story, right?
• 32:47
  SPEAKER_00: Like, who how does that work?
• 32:49
  SPEAKER_00: Because it's in the sign of Gemini, which is communication, um, writing, teaching, speaking, uh, like networking, these are all the things that you help people with.
• 33:00
  SPEAKER_00: And so for you, when we think talk about your life path, it's like, oh, you can't step into that north node in Pisces and share your creative work with the world on this large scale until you heal your voice.
• 33:16
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 33:17
  SPEAKER_01: And that's why, again, with this deepening and the my lunar note that we were talking about, I've been using my voice in a whole different way.
• 33:29
  SPEAKER_01: And, you know, this is the inner work that's so important, especially in entrepreneurship as well.
• 33:33
  SPEAKER_01: And you'll quickly see the connections if you've done any inner child work and you maybe have aren't familiar with your Chiron and you find out where it is in your chart.
• 33:42
  SPEAKER_01: Because for me, it to it's connected with the block around not enoughness that started in childhood, and I can really remember those key times in my life when I felt like I did use my voice and I immediately felt like shame or embarrassment or or the the not-enoughness like really showed up.
• 34:01
  SPEAKER_01: And it's it's this is our life work, right?
• 34:03
  SPEAKER_01: Like I am still working on this with every up level.
• 34:07
  SPEAKER_01: And so there's certain pivotal times where it really I you unlock a new layer of healing.
• 34:14
  SPEAKER_01: Like sharing my book absolutely was part of that.
• 34:16
  SPEAKER_01: And now speaking on stages is another part.
• 34:19
  SPEAKER_01: And I was, I find it so interesting too in the spring when I was doing a lot of speaking, and then I lost my voice.
• 34:24
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm like, oh my gosh, of course.
• 34:26
  SPEAKER_01: Like I'm, you know, it's constant practice.
• 34:29
  SPEAKER_01: So it's so beautiful, and I'm this is why I love it so much.
• 34:33
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I mean, that's such a good example of it because it's it's so, it's not, I mean, people could look at you and be like, oh my God, Carly's doing it all, she's so amazing.
• 34:44
  SPEAKER_00: And it's like, no, this is really uncomfortable for me.
• 34:47
  SPEAKER_00: This is hitting all my insecurities every time I show up and speak, every time I share my story, every time I share my voice, it's hitting on your Chiron wound.
• 34:55
  SPEAKER_00: But every time you do, not only are you healing yourself, you're healing everyone else and showing how that how they can heal that too.
• 35:03
  SPEAKER_01: So powerful and so beautiful.
• 35:05
  SPEAKER_01: And, you know, again, like this is what really matters.
• 35:09
  SPEAKER_01: Like, this is where I think our true definition of success is lying.
• 35:13
  SPEAKER_01: You know, we've been in this trap of defining success in these very traditional ways, but it really is so individual.
• 35:21
  SPEAKER_01: And once you get to know your chart on this deeper level, you can get so much clarity in that.
• 35:30
  SPEAKER_01: So I love to talk a little bit more about this communal shift that we are experiencing as we shift the North Node shifting into Aquarius and South Node into Leo, right?
• 35:41
  SPEAKER_01: Can you speak to that and how that's showing up right now and what you're kind of seeing in clients that you're working with as well?
• 35:49
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 35:50
  SPEAKER_00: So this is an interesting energy because, well, this whole year has, I don't know if like you've heard many people be like, We're we're in this new era, we're birthing a new world, and we truly are.
• 36:05
  SPEAKER_00: We have so many signs shifting, I sorry, so many planets shifting into new signs.
• 36:11
  SPEAKER_00: So that's really where that's coming from.
• 36:13
  SPEAKER_00: So not only do we have the North Node moving into Aquarius, which I'll speak to in a second, but we've also just had Pluto moving to Aquarius.
• 36:22
  SPEAKER_00: That was 2024, and it was retrograding back before that.
• 36:26
  SPEAKER_00: So it's now here studied, going to be moving through Aquarius.
• 36:29
  SPEAKER_00: That will be for the next 20 years.
• 36:31
  SPEAKER_00: So that's a lot about transforming society, right?
• 36:35
  SPEAKER_00: Communities, technology, innovation, um, how we live, how we create together.
• 36:41
  SPEAKER_00: All of that's going through a huge transformation for the next 20 years.
• 36:46
  SPEAKER_00: And then we have Neptune that just moved into Aries this year, and that's also a slow-moving planet.
• 36:53
  SPEAKER_00: So it's gonna be in Aries now for 14 years.
• 36:57
  SPEAKER_00: And then we have Uranus that just moved into Gemini, which is gonna be there for seven years.
• 37:03
  SPEAKER_00: So these are all like long chapters you can think of, like a long period we're all gonna be working on as a collective.
• 37:10
  SPEAKER_00: And so Uranus and Gemini, that's what we've already seen, AI, right?
• 37:14
  SPEAKER_00: It's gonna be really revolutionizing communication, how we communicate, how we um travel, and how we kind of share information with one another.
• 37:26
  SPEAKER_00: So that's all gonna be changing.
• 37:28
  SPEAKER_00: And then we have Chiron that just moved into Taurus, and that's eight-year cycle.
• 37:34
  SPEAKER_00: So that's gonna be about this huge theme on I think healing our relationship with the land, with earth, with our resources, raw materials.
• 37:45
  SPEAKER_00: Um like really how are we taking care of this planet moving forward and getting more sustainable?
• 37:53
  SPEAKER_00: I think a lot of people are really gonna be thinking about that because that's the wound we're all going through as a collective for the next eight years to heal.
• 38:02
  SPEAKER_00: So those are all big things that have been going on.
• 38:05
  SPEAKER_00: Kind of leading up to this north node moving into Aquarius, which is in a few days here, um, which will be July 26th.
• 38:15
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not sure when um you're tuning in to listen to this.
• 38:18
  SPEAKER_00: It may have already happened.
• 38:19
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, probably will.
• 38:21
  SPEAKER_00: And what that means is a collective growth edge.
• 38:24
  SPEAKER_00: Wherever the north node moves is what we are collectively growing towards or learning for the next 18 months.
• 38:34
  SPEAKER_00: And so you can already see all these themes going on with these other planets, and now the north node's gonna be like, yeah, this is a big growth edge for us.
• 38:43
  SPEAKER_00: Like, we don't, we gotta rebuild our systems in a more sustainable way.
• 38:49
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, we gotta learn how do we wanna relate with technology now.
• 38:54
  SPEAKER_00: Um, we gotta learn just I think putting humanity first rather than uh like what do I want versus like what do we need as a community?
• 39:05
  SPEAKER_00: Um, because the south node will be in Leo, which is more self-focused.
• 39:11
  SPEAKER_00: And so the north node is saying, how can we move from me to we?
• 39:15
  SPEAKER_00: And that's what we're all gonna be feeling.
• 39:17
  SPEAKER_00: And I think there's gonna be this really big movement towards doing things offline, actually, doing things in community.
• 39:26
  SPEAKER_00: We're really wanting that um human connection, like with our local communities.
• 39:32
  SPEAKER_00: And I think that that's like gonna be the biggest energy that's coming the second half of the year, is a lot of people are gonna stop like de-unplugging and resting.
• 39:43
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I feel like that's actually really showing up strongly right now in the conversations that I'm in having, you know, and it's no surprise because I these are the trailblazing women that I surround myself with and the innovators and the ones that are typically ahead of this of the curve, and they're already feeling that pull.
• 40:00
  SPEAKER_01: And of course, we're, you know, in the middle of summer, and there's also that piece of people wanting to turn the screens off and really focus on being present in the reality.
• 40:10
  SPEAKER_01: But I feel more and more, and especially in the online business space, we are feeling this pull and prioritizing the IRL connections and community building and like, yeah, coming into more local connections as well.
• 40:25
  SPEAKER_01: And then even even that ties into like the shift to to homesteading, that then taking care of the land and living off the land and the sustainability of it.
• 40:34
  SPEAKER_01: So yeah, you can see it happening.
• 40:37
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, running wanting to build, yeah, these communities where we just sustain each other within that is going back to the village, the village lifestyle.
• 40:46
  SPEAKER_00: And you know, this first half of the year, we were getting a taste of the new world that is to come.
• 40:54
  SPEAKER_00: Now all the planets, the second half of the year, so let's say from now into December are all gonna be retrograding back.
• 41:02
  SPEAKER_00: So we'll have almost all the planets in retrograde.
• 41:05
  SPEAKER_00: And what that means is when any planet is retrograde, we are reflecting, we are re-editing, we're revising, we're rewinding to tie things up.
• 41:17
  SPEAKER_00: So we have one foot in the old world and we have one foot in the new world this last half of the year.
• 41:23
  SPEAKER_00: And I feel like there's going to be this like really a pause energy.
• 41:31
  SPEAKER_00: Like, we're not, we're not like, okay, I'm gonna launch this thing or I'm gonna do this new idea.
• 41:36
  SPEAKER_00: It's actually like, oh, I'm gonna give myself the rest of the year to have this like space to really close out these long chapters to really give myself space and self-compassion to like release whatever I need to let go or tie up whatever I need to let go.
• 41:55
  SPEAKER_00: And so I can fully have this clean slate for when all the other planets go uh direct again next year in 2027, and we fully say, Okay, welcome, new world.
• 42:06
  SPEAKER_00: Let's go.
• 42:08
  SPEAKER_01: Uh so good.
• 42:09
  SPEAKER_01: And that makes me think of, and we can share specifically in regards to certain lunar nodes, how that's impacted.
• 42:16
  SPEAKER_01: Cause I'm thinking again, what I was referring to around this feeling of like this exhaustion, this kind of burnout in the online business space specifically that we're reading a lot about, and we're seeing these big names in business that are pulling back and you know, shutting down their like multi-million dollar podcasts, or and they're really giving themselves more space, but it's not like a permanent thing.
• 42:42
  SPEAKER_01: It is that rest and that pause and that reset, which can be so uncomfortable for the ambitious entrepreneur that especially the one that has been very much, I don't want to say necessarily stuck, but familiar with more of that hustle, go, go, go.
• 43:00
  SPEAKER_01: I know I feel it even right now, just I've I was trying to even just embrace like cancer season of like tuning into the home and letting myself rest more.
• 43:11
  SPEAKER_01: And it's so uncomfortable for me.
• 43:13
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
• 43:14
  SPEAKER_00: I know, and we're just not taught, I think in the well, not here in North America to um prioritize kind of this slower way of living and being.
• 43:26
  SPEAKER_00: It is, it's like, what's the next thing you're creating, or always uh be launching something, or what's the next goal?
• 43:33
  SPEAKER_00: And so yeah, it's really interesting because I think we're all feeling that pause energy that's coming.
• 43:40
  SPEAKER_00: And I think a lot of it has to do with well, Neptune in retrograde, a lot of it because that will be retrograde until the end of the year.
• 43:50
  SPEAKER_00: And Neptune's kind of this like foggy energy that we are it's kind of that dream like quality, it's under the sea, and then I think when it Goes retrograde.
• 44:01
  SPEAKER_00: We start to see things clearly.
• 44:03
  SPEAKER_00: We see them now as they are.
• 44:05
  SPEAKER_00: The rose colored glasses come off.
• 44:07
  SPEAKER_00: And we're like, oh, this is not sustainable.
• 44:10
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I can't be operating in this way anymore.
• 44:14
  SPEAKER_00: And how do I want to do it differently?
• 44:16
  SPEAKER_00: And of course, all the other planets at play as well.
• 44:18
  SPEAKER_00: It's like, yeah, if I want to continue doing this, I do need to rebuild the structure or the system.
• 44:27
  SPEAKER_00: Therefore, I need to pause in order to then rebuild that next phase to move forward.
• 44:33
  SPEAKER_00: It's like, you know, that saying, like, you got to take two steps back to then jump forward.
• 44:38
  SPEAKER_00: That's, I think, a collective thing we're all moving through right now.
• 44:40
  SPEAKER_00: And hopefully it makes it easier because we're all doing it together.
• 44:44
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 44:45
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, exactly.
• 44:46
  SPEAKER_01: And I think that's so, again, it comes into the community feel of it and being able to experience it together.
• 44:54
  SPEAKER_01: And I know that it's always hard because your charts are so unique to you, which is part of the whole point as well to remember that you are here to exist and your purpose is so unique.
• 45:05
  SPEAKER_01: And that's why someone else's blueprint does not translate for you in terms of how you make money, how you show up in your marketing, the type of business that you're building.
• 45:16
  SPEAKER_01: You know, we've been so used to being handed this like cookie cutter.
• 45:20
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, this worked for this person to go viral and build this massive success.
• 45:24
  SPEAKER_01: But why what's wrong with me?
• 45:26
  SPEAKER_01: Why isn't it working for me?
• 45:27
  SPEAKER_01: It's because it's completely not aligned with your individual chart and reality.
• 45:34
  SPEAKER_01: I am briefly interrupting this episode to personally invite you to something that I have been dreaming about for a very long time.
• 45:41
  SPEAKER_01: The favorite self-retreat is happening on October 1st at the beautiful Wisdom Gardens Retreat Center in East Gillenberry.
• 45:48
  SPEAKER_01: This is a full day for the woman who can feel a new chapter calling her.
• 45:53
  SPEAKER_01: The woman who is ready to reconnect with her deepest desires, trust the vision she has for her life, and step forward with the confidence to create something even bigger than she has allowed herself to imagine.
• 46:05
  SPEAKER_01: Together we'll create space to release the stories, patterns, and beliefs that no longer belong in your next chapter.
• 46:12
  SPEAKER_01: But this day is about so much more than what you're leaving behind.
• 46:15
  SPEAKER_01: It's about remembering who you are, reclaiming the gifts, dreams, and desires that have always been within you, and becoming the version of yourself who feels safe, worthy, and fully capable of bringing her wildest dreams to life.
• 46:29
  SPEAKER_01: You'll be guided through breath work, subconscious rewiring, reflection, meaningful conversation, and powerful exercises designed to help you clarify what you truly want and confidently step into what's next.
• 46:41
  SPEAKER_01: This isn't about becoming someone else.
• 46:43
  SPEAKER_01: It's about coming home to the most powerful, expressed, and fully alive version of you and giving yourself permission to dream bigger.
• 46:52
  SPEAKER_01: If you know you're ready for your next chapter, I would love to have you in the room.
• 46:56
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• 47:00
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• 47:04
  SPEAKER_01: I can't wait to meet the version of you who emerges.
• 47:08
  SPEAKER_01: Now back to the episode.
• 47:09
  SPEAKER_01: I'm wondering if you can just share a little bit, Marina, because I I know people are would going to be really curious to think of like some examples of how this might be showing up in their own charts.
• 47:19
  SPEAKER_01: Can you speak a little bit, whether to the signs or to the houses in terms of what different um people in different charts might be experiencing right now that they might feel seen by us sharing that?
• 47:31
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, absolutely.
• 47:32
  SPEAKER_00: I think the number one thing you can well, what I would really recommend focusing on for this last um chapter of the year, this last quarter of the year, is that north node moving into Aquarius because that's gonna be your business growth edge.
• 47:50
  SPEAKER_00: It's gonna be your own personal growth edge, which means it's gonna be also your business's growth edge.
• 47:55
  SPEAKER_00: So it's gonna be naturally where are you being pulled to next?
• 48:00
  SPEAKER_00: And so if we can understand that, I think that can really help guide us in what decisions we make for this next half of the year and even into 2027.
• 48:10
  SPEAKER_00: So, do you want to go through maybe the north node through like Aquarius in each house and what that means for everyone?
• 48:17
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, so this is different, just for everyone that's listening.
• 48:19
  SPEAKER_00: This is different than your personal north node, which is known as your natal north node.
• 48:26
  SPEAKER_00: So this is gonna be where the north node is in the sky this year into next year.
• 48:32
  SPEAKER_00: So it's gonna be for the next 18 months and it's going to be moving through a house, which means an area of life for each individual.
• 48:42
  SPEAKER_00: So where it is, like what house it's in, will be different for everyone, which means different growth edge in a different area of life for everyone.
• 48:50
  SPEAKER_01: How do they find out how it's moving through for them?
• 48:54
  SPEAKER_00: So we can, if you want to pull up your birth chart, or I think Curly, you had a really good idea.
• 48:59
  SPEAKER_00: You can screenshot your birth chart and put it into do you say chat GPT?
• 49:04
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, or Claude, either or yeah.
• 49:07
  SPEAKER_00: And you can just say where is the where is Aquarius?
• 49:12
  SPEAKER_00: What house is Aquarius for me in my birth chart?
• 49:15
  SPEAKER_00: And it will tell you based on that.
• 49:18
  SPEAKER_01: So you're looking up where Aquarius is in your birth chart, what um house Yes.
• 49:24
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, perfect.
• 49:25
  SPEAKER_01: What house placement is Aquarius for me?
• 49:28
  SPEAKER_01: And knowing that it's in transit, so it's moving over the next 18 months.
• 49:33
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 49:34
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 49:34
  SPEAKER_00: So if you have Aquarius in the first house in your birth chart, this is going to be about how can you become more authentically yourself at like in your life and at work, in your own business, but contributing to something bigger than just yourself.
• 49:53
  SPEAKER_00: So how can you be more authentically yourself while still contributing to something bigger outside yourself?
• 50:01
  SPEAKER_00: So that's Aquarius in the first house.
• 50:03
  SPEAKER_00: Aquarius in the second house, that's the house of resources, money, it's your skills.
• 50:09
  SPEAKER_00: So this is gonna be about how are you innovating when it comes to your own earned income, your pricing, um, financial stability, your offerings.
• 50:20
  SPEAKER_00: So, how can you build uh more sustainable revenue essentially through Aquarius themes, which are gonna be the structures and systems you put in place to do so?
• 50:29
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe you're using some sort of cool new technology coming out to do that.
• 50:35
  SPEAKER_00: Aquarius in the third house, that's the house of social connection.
• 50:40
  SPEAKER_00: It's also communication, it's short form communication.
• 50:43
  SPEAKER_00: So this is prioritizing content creation, teaching, writing, speaking, making podcasts, for example, um, marketing, or launching a course.
• 50:54
  SPEAKER_00: Again, I know we talked about how the planets are going to be in retrograde, a lot of them.
• 50:59
  SPEAKER_00: So this could also just be like ideas from the past that you're now bringing forward and working on in the background, kind of thing.
• 51:07
  SPEAKER_00: It doesn't necessarily need to be something you're launching right a right away, but you're starting to get the ideas for it.
• 51:14
  SPEAKER_00: Then if you have North Node moving through Aquarius in the fourth house, that's going to be about building a stronger foundation for yourself.
• 51:22
  SPEAKER_00: This is the house of home and family.
• 51:24
  SPEAKER_00: So, how are you bringing that innovative Aquarius energy to your home?
• 51:29
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe it's about creating better systems behind the scenes, improving your work-life balance, um, and developing a business that supports the lifestyle you want to live by using these very Aquarius themes.
• 51:43
  SPEAKER_00: Um, again, that's really like that homestead energy we were talking about.
• 51:47
  SPEAKER_00: That could be, it's really like this unconventional home you're wanting to be, that you're going to be called to create.
• 51:54
  SPEAKER_00: Aquarius in the fifth house.
• 51:55
  SPEAKER_00: The fifth house is your own self-expression and your creativity.
• 51:59
  SPEAKER_00: So this is a great time to kind of, you know, let these maybe unconventional creative ideas come to the forefront and really, you know, lean into that.
• 52:10
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, if you've always been a brand, um, like not a personal brand, this could be a time that you may be starting to think about, oh, what if I shift it to a personal brand rather than um hiding behind like a logo or brand name, for example.
• 52:25
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and it's also about your passion projects and just anything creating from the heart, just allowing yourself to get into that zone.
• 52:35
  SPEAKER_00: Aquarius in the sixth house, that's your daily work rituals and routines.
• 52:40
  SPEAKER_00: So you're gonna be really refining your workflows, your client experience if you have employees.
• 52:46
  SPEAKER_00: Um, that will be a lot to do with this as well, and just your operating systems.
• 52:51
  SPEAKER_00: Um, so this will all be going through a shift.
• 52:53
  SPEAKER_00: And again, with Aquarius energy and themes.
• 52:57
  SPEAKER_00: If it's in the seventh house, this is focused on your one-to-one relationship.
• 53:01
  SPEAKER_00: So one-to-one clients, um, also your relationship if you have a significant other.
• 53:06
  SPEAKER_00: It's just our close partnerships that we have in our life.
• 53:10
  SPEAKER_00: Um, so this is maybe going through a shift in how you want to show up in these relationships, the types of clients you want to be calling in moving forward, and just something about that is is shifting um how you want to be operating in that way.
• 53:26
  SPEAKER_00: Aquarius in the eighth house, that's about exploring investments, shared resources.
• 53:32
  SPEAKER_00: It's about the transformation work we talked about, like psychology and astrology.
• 53:37
  SPEAKER_00: It's this like underworld.
• 53:40
  SPEAKER_00: So with Aquarius moving through here, this is like a really good time to start maybe working on something like a pat something that's gonna create passive income.
• 53:48
  SPEAKER_00: Um, maybe get into like stocks and uh cryptocurrency, like these are all eight house, eighth house themes.
• 53:56
  SPEAKER_00: And then also, um, like I said, like deep transformational work.
• 54:00
  SPEAKER_00: You may be really called to these, like maybe you never liked astrology before, and maybe all of a sudden you're really feeling this call to learn and understand astrology more.
• 54:10
  SPEAKER_00: Aquarius in the ninth house, this is gonna be you expanding through publishing, teaching, traveling, maybe doing some sort of certification program or reaching more of a global audience.
• 54:23
  SPEAKER_00: And then Aquarius in the 10th house, that's the house of your career.
• 54:26
  SPEAKER_00: So this is really about elevating your visibility, your reputation, your leadership, and your long-term career vision.
• 54:34
  SPEAKER_00: So, probably really working on how you can become seen more as a visionary in your career, more of an innovator.
• 54:41
  SPEAKER_00: So, not doing what everyone else is doing, doing something that's really different and unique.
• 54:45
  SPEAKER_00: And then in the 11th house, that's the house of community building.
• 54:50
  SPEAKER_00: It's uh large groups of people, such as yourself, Carly.
• 54:54
  SPEAKER_00: You have your natal north node here.
• 54:56
  SPEAKER_00: So, this is about memberships, group programs, networking, collaborative opportunities, and events.
• 55:02
  SPEAKER_00: It's really that community house placement.
• 55:05
  SPEAKER_00: And so with Aquarius there, it's really that double energy because Aquarius rules the 11th house.
• 55:12
  SPEAKER_00: So it's really about how you can create this really unique innovative movement or community that allows people to be and show up fully as themselves.
• 55:23
  SPEAKER_00: And then Aquarius in the 12th house is focused on the private world.
• 55:28
  SPEAKER_00: It's the last house of the wheel.
• 55:30
  SPEAKER_00: And so it's the house of solitude and where we go to connect with something outside ourselves, something greater, oneness, um, God, or any that's really the house of um, yeah, connecting with spirit.
• 55:43
  SPEAKER_00: So if this is you, you're gonna be feeling this really call to rest, maybe go through healing.
• 55:50
  SPEAKER_00: Um, it could be something to do with your health that pulls you away, that kind of just makes you want to be by yourself.
• 55:57
  SPEAKER_00: And but that energy is really beautiful because when we are alone and we are in the solitude, that's like really when those downloads can come through.
• 56:05
  SPEAKER_01: Hmm.
• 56:06
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, I love that so much.
• 56:08
  SPEAKER_01: I can't wait to hear everyone share.
• 56:11
  SPEAKER_01: Like, please let us know after this where Aquarius is, what house it's in for your chart and the transit that it's in.
• 56:18
  SPEAKER_01: What is it for you, Marina?
• 56:20
  SPEAKER_00: Mine's gonna be going through my fourth house of home and family.
• 56:24
  SPEAKER_00: And I mean, I don't know how interested in your community will be on this.
• 56:30
  SPEAKER_00: And but my so my north node is gonna be going through the fourth house, which means the south node is in Leo in my 10th house.
• 56:40
  SPEAKER_00: And that means I'm releasing something to do with career.
• 56:44
  SPEAKER_00: So I've been the director of marketing for this company, the backcountry hut company, Innovative Homes, Aquarius in the fourth house, um, sustainable homes.
• 56:54
  SPEAKER_00: And I am putting in a lead, like I'm taking a leave from the job, which will start around the first eclipse in Leo, uh, which is of course divine timing.
• 57:06
  SPEAKER_00: And through that, it's really I'm honoring what we were just talking about, that rest period for the rest of the year.
• 57:12
  SPEAKER_00: Like I'm feeling this deep calling to just like take care of myself, um, work when I feel called to, like on this on my astrology work and not feel like it has to be like this structured way.
• 57:24
  SPEAKER_00: It's more like I'll do it when I'm inspired, I'll work on it when I'm inspired, um, and just giving myself full permission for that.
• 57:32
  SPEAKER_00: And when you look at the rest of the chart, which is wild, um, Neptune is retrograding my sixth house.
• 57:40
  SPEAKER_00: And like I said before, when it retrogrades, we can all of a sudden see things clearly, see things we couldn't see before.
• 57:48
  SPEAKER_00: And I know, I think you know a little bit about like my health journey and everything with that.
• 57:55
  SPEAKER_00: So I was I found out I had Lyme disease when Chiron moved into Aries in my sixth house, and then that's been like an eight-year journey until now.
• 58:04
  SPEAKER_00: And then now with Neptune coming in for the first time in Aries and then retrograding, it's like, oh my gosh, this actually may not be Lyme disease, it may be this.
• 58:16
  SPEAKER_00: So I'm finding this clarity around my health, and it's coming back to a story of when the North Node was in Aquarius in 2008.
• 58:27
  SPEAKER_00: That was the last time it was there, and it was an unit was a story that was never closed, it was never, there's never a resolution around it.
• 58:35
  SPEAKER_00: And so now the North Node is coming back to that same spot almost 20 years later, and it's wild.
• 58:44
  SPEAKER_00: Wow.
• 58:45
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 58:46
  SPEAKER_01: So is that a collective feeling too that in terms of like the when Aquarius was last or sorry, when North Node was last passing through Aquarius?
• 58:54
  SPEAKER_00: Is that the right?
• 58:55
  SPEAKER_00: Am I saying that right?
• 58:56
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 58:57
  SPEAKER_00: So the last time the North Node was moving through Aquarius was in 2008.
• 59:02
  SPEAKER_01: So some loop there for everyone you're are gonna feel.
• 59:06
  SPEAKER_00: So from 2008 to 2010 is when you will be so if you can think back to those themes that happened, like for myself, it was in my fourth house.
• 59:16
  SPEAKER_00: I moved different communities during that time, which is very Aquarious in my fourth house, right?
• 59:22
  SPEAKER_00: So I was like finding this new sense of belonging in this new community.
• 59:26
  SPEAKER_00: I was at a new uh the I started a first year this school, so that would be my second year, and then of going through my appendix exploded, so health stuff.
• 59:36
  SPEAKER_00: Um, yeah, it's like crazy to think back to all the things that happened.
• 59:42
  SPEAKER_01: Can you quickly reflect mine back to me too?
• 59:44
  SPEAKER_01: And I can share a little bit as well.
• 59:46
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so yours would be um, let me pull that up.
• 59:51
  SPEAKER_00: Was it Aquarius is your tenth house?
• 59:55
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
• 59:56
  SPEAKER_00: So um, which is interesting, we're the opposites.
• 1:00:00
  SPEAKER_00: So because the south node's in my 10th house, your north node is in Leo.
• 1:00:06
  SPEAKER_00: Um, it will be sorry, the south node is in Leo and your fourth house.
• 1:00:10
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 1:00:11
  SPEAKER_00: So it's the complete opposite.
• 1:00:13
  SPEAKER_00: So yours will be moving, so your career is now like coming to the forefront.
• 1:00:18
  SPEAKER_00: Homes kind of taking, now I won't say being put on the back burner, but themes, way the ways, south node tendencies and ways you're showing up at home are releasing.
• 1:00:28
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 1:00:29
  SPEAKER_00: New ways that you're showing up in work is coming.
• 1:00:31
  SPEAKER_00: So it's that work, we're both moving through this work life balance, but we're doing it in different ways.
• 1:00:36
  SPEAKER_01: Fascinating, which makes total sense because my kids are more independent now, you know, they're at at that age where I'm able to focus on prioritizing the business in ways that I haven't been able to or had the capacity to.
• 1:00:51
  SPEAKER_01: And and again, it just again validates like different people will feel like they have different capacities based on this information too, right?
• 1:01:01
  SPEAKER_01: So for me, I feel like I have been so invested in home.
• 1:01:04
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, also just rebuild my house and went through that whole experience.
• 1:01:08
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 1:01:09
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm so when I think back to 2008 to 2010, that's when I met Luke.
• 1:01:14
  SPEAKER_01: I met him in 2009.
• 1:01:16
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, wow.
• 1:01:18
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 1:01:19
  SPEAKER_01: And then we built a business together and and obviously our family at our home.
• 1:01:24
  SPEAKER_00: So and do you feel like now in this next phase, you're like, oh, what business am I building?
• 1:01:33
  SPEAKER_00: Is it does it feel like you're kind of moving towards more of like your own thing now?
• 1:01:38
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I've been very much like building my personal brand, and I'm I am you heard it here first, launching a new program coming up that you know is still rooted in what I've built with the agency and like that that's still definitely thriving, but it's I'm feeling like it opening doors for me to do the work that I've felt so called to do recently in a whole other way.
• 1:02:02
  SPEAKER_01: Wow.
• 1:02:03
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I like that makes total sense with the chart for sure.
• 1:02:07
  SPEAKER_01: So cool.
• 1:02:08
  SPEAKER_01: You guys, this is why this is the best.
• 1:02:10
  SPEAKER_01: You need to do a reading with Marina.
• 1:02:12
  SPEAKER_01: I know there's other ways, Marina, too, that you're working on of ways that people can work with you.
• 1:02:16
  SPEAKER_01: Can you share a little bit about that?
• 1:02:17
  SPEAKER_01: And then I have some rapid fire for you.
• 1:02:20
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 1:02:21
  SPEAKER_00: Um, yeah, so I have a astrology app coming out soon, or maybe it will be out by the time you're listening to this, which is very exciting.
• 1:02:30
  SPEAKER_00: Um, so this is, I think actually coming back to, I think I never fully answered your question about how your sun and moon relate to your north node.
• 1:02:40
  SPEAKER_00: This is the perfect example because my sun signs in Capricorn in the third house.
• 1:02:46
  SPEAKER_00: Capricorn is structures, systems, organizing in the third house of information and communication.
• 1:02:53
  SPEAKER_00: So, how am I structuring organizing information in a simple way for others to understand?
• 1:02:58
  SPEAKER_00: And I feel like that's the way I'm doing it through this app because your sun signs how you do your work.
• 1:03:04
  SPEAKER_00: And this is just such a perfect example of um the way that I can best express this wisdom of that north node path that I'm walking through this app.
• 1:03:16
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but anyway, so the app is a place that you'll be able to look up, like put your birth information in, and it can pull up every different kind of course or workshop I've ever created for you.
• 1:03:31
  SPEAKER_00: So it's just pulling exactly what you need are related to you, and it will walk you through everything we've talked about here and more.
• 1:03:38
  SPEAKER_00: You'll be able to understand your own life path and purpose, what your biggest block is.
• 1:03:43
  SPEAKER_00: We'll talk about Chiron, your biggest childhood wound, how you manifest best, um, how to make aligned decisions with your North Node.
• 1:03:51
  SPEAKER_00: So yeah, it's really exciting.
• 1:03:53
  SPEAKER_01: Oh my gosh, that's gonna be so good and so needed.
• 1:03:57
  SPEAKER_01: I cannot wait for this.
• 1:03:59
  SPEAKER_01: And how do people connect with you?
• 1:04:01
  SPEAKER_01: What's the best way to get in touch?
• 1:04:02
  SPEAKER_00: The best way to get in touch is probably through my website, northnodeguide.com, or through Instagram to send me a DM.
• 1:04:10
  SPEAKER_00: And that's also North Node Guide on Instagram.
• 1:04:12
  SPEAKER_01: Yay, and we'll have all the links in the show notes.
• 1:04:15
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, quickly moving into some rapid fire.
• 1:04:18
  SPEAKER_01: Your North Node sign, what's the biggest lesson it has taught you?
• 1:04:26
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe not so rapidly.
• 1:04:28
  SPEAKER_00: Um I can take care of myself.
• 1:04:33
  SPEAKER_00: Like really stop looking outside yourself.
• 1:04:39
  SPEAKER_00: Like you've got you you can do it yourself and and believe in yourself.
• 1:04:45
  SPEAKER_00: That's the biggest one for sure.
• 1:04:47
  SPEAKER_00: The eighth house is always wanting to you trust others more than you trust yourself.
• 1:04:55
  SPEAKER_01: So good.
• 1:04:56
  SPEAKER_01: And maybe the this is also a harder question to answer rapid fire, but what's the placement in your chart that just made you feel so seen or validated?
• 1:05:08
  SPEAKER_00: I think what when I was speaking at myself now, really, because I I just couldn't understand like why I had gone through kind of all this chaos.
• 1:05:18
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm looking around, and none of my friends had experienced anything like my life.
• 1:05:23
  SPEAKER_00: And it really was, it just helped me make sense of oh, this is this operating system I'm on, and I I can I've actually been kind of creating this reality, and now there's a way to move through it, and I don't have to keep keep attracting this in my life.
• 1:05:41
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 1:05:42
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 1:05:42
  SPEAKER_01: What is the placement that you resisted the most?
• 1:05:51
  SPEAKER_00: Honestly, I think um resisted the most I was like so resisted the most probably my Chiron.
• 1:06:00
  SPEAKER_00: In the 10th house, like really fully letting myself show up completely unfiltered and authentic.
• 1:06:07
  SPEAKER_00: And my career is really hard for me as a Capricorn.
• 1:06:10
  SPEAKER_00: I really want to be prepared and structured like your Virgo South note.
• 1:06:15
  SPEAKER_00: So it's like, I want to have all the notes ready.
• 1:06:18
  SPEAKER_00: And it's just like speaking and improvising and trusting myself that the right thing's going to come out when it needs to.
• 1:06:25
  SPEAKER_00: That's been really a journey.
• 1:06:30
  SPEAKER_00: Um, one of the biggest things in my chart is probably Saturn.
• 1:06:33
  SPEAKER_00: Saturn in my fourth house of home and family and putting down roots because it's an interesting one with the Sagittarius North node.
• 1:06:42
  SPEAKER_00: It's like this nomadic energy, but then also I need a solid foundation.
• 1:06:46
  SPEAKER_00: So it's like trying to make both happy.
• 1:06:48
  SPEAKER_00: And that's been interesting.
• 1:06:50
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, I love that.
• 1:06:53
  SPEAKER_01: And what do you so just speaking in general, what do you think is the most misunderstood sun sign?
• 1:07:06
  SPEAKER_00: Uh or Norse.
• 1:07:07
  SPEAKER_00: I'd be biased if I said Capricorn, so I'm gonna go with cancer.
• 1:07:11
  SPEAKER_01: I can see that.
• 1:07:12
  SPEAKER_01: I can totally see that.
• 1:07:13
  SPEAKER_01: I feel like Capricorn always kind of is a bit of an anomaly to me, and I don't know why.
• 1:07:18
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I feel like the stereotype Capricorn, you know, just but I have Uranus conjunct my son, so it makes me a little bit more of this unconventional Capricorn, I guess.
• 1:07:28
  SPEAKER_00: Um, than a traditional Capricorn, but I feel like we're we're softer than you say we are out there online.
• 1:07:36
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I love that.
• 1:07:37
  SPEAKER_00: But and and probably cancers.
• 1:07:40
  SPEAKER_00: Poor cancers.
• 1:07:41
  SPEAKER_00: I feel like they don't get the dust um reviews up there.
• 1:07:50
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:07:52
  SPEAKER_01: What is one astrology myth that you would love to retire?
• 1:08:03
  SPEAKER_00: That your sun sign is the most important point in your chart.
• 1:08:07
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:08:09
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:08:10
  SPEAKER_01: And what is a sign in general, kind of speaking to the collective, that's what you often see that affirms that someone is moving toward their true north.
• 1:08:22
  SPEAKER_00: Wait, can you say that one more time?
• 1:08:24
  SPEAKER_01: What is a sign, like I mean, more how is it in a situation or something that clicks that shows you that someone's truly moving toward their true north?
• 1:08:32
  SPEAKER_01: How do you which how does it show up?
• 1:08:34
  SPEAKER_01: I know it's different for each person, but what's something collectively?
• 1:08:37
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so I feel like you'll know when someone's moving towards their north node when it's they're starting to do things that are really uncomfortable.
• 1:08:50
  SPEAKER_00: You're like, whoa, that's not you, you know?
• 1:08:53
  SPEAKER_00: Or I would never guess that you would do something like that.
• 1:08:56
  SPEAKER_00: Um, so that's really a big sign for sure.
• 1:09:00
  SPEAKER_00: And it's not, I think the biggest misconception is like alignment is when everything's easy and flowing.
• 1:09:09
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, it's not.
• 1:09:10
  SPEAKER_00: Alignment is when everything starts to get really hard because your comfort zone is your south node, and that's what's safe, and that's what's easy, and that's what you know.
• 1:09:20
  SPEAKER_00: But you'll stay stuck and stagnant if you stay there.
• 1:09:23
  SPEAKER_00: Your life, the south node, is a vacuum and it's sucking energy out.
• 1:09:29
  SPEAKER_00: So if you want to be putting energy into your life, vitality and life force, that's your north node, but it's it's so uncomfortable.
• 1:09:37
  SPEAKER_00: It's so outside your comfort zone.
• 1:09:39
  SPEAKER_00: So it's not gonna look like effortless and ease.
• 1:09:43
  SPEAKER_00: And so when you see someone allowing themselves to get messy and do things outside of character, that's it, it's a good sign.
• 1:09:51
  SPEAKER_01: I think that's such an important reminder and perfect way to end.
• 1:09:56
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you, Marina, so much.
• 1:09:57
  SPEAKER_01: I love this conversation.
• 1:09:58
  SPEAKER_01: I feel like it's the kind of one that people will want to re-listen to and come back to and definitely pull up your chart and follow along along with us.
• 1:10:06
  SPEAKER_01: You know, like I said, or like Marina said, actually take a screenshot of your chart before putting it into Claud or chat.
• 1:10:13
  SPEAKER_01: Like, don't get them to read it.
• 1:10:14
  SPEAKER_01: And and you can ask it specific questions to help you understand where these planets are showing up for you and what the trend what transits are happening for you.
• 1:10:24
  SPEAKER_01: Ah, so good.
• 1:10:25
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you so, so much.
• 1:10:26
  SPEAKER_01: I so appreciate you.
• 1:10:28
  SPEAKER_01: And I can't wait to do this again.
• 1:10:29
  SPEAKER_00: Me too.
• 1:10:30
  SPEAKER_00: Thanks so much for having me.
• 1:10:32
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• 1:10:51
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