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Call Her Tatty Episode 1: The Husband · Call Her Tatty

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  Are we rolling? We are rolling. Yeah. We're ready to go. Is this finally happening? I guess it is.
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  All right, Shafelaz. This has been a long time in the making. Welcome to call her Tati.
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  This has been an idea that Zoli and I have had for quite some time. And I don't know who would be
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  a better first guest. None other than my husband, Zoli. Zoli, thank you for arranging this. Thank you
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  for forcing me to finally get the wheels rolling because ripped the band-aid off. I felt like I
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  have to do it. I just didn't know when. I didn't know how and obviously you're the social media guy
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  here. So I kind of had to like make you force me to get to this point. I think we just had to wait
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  for me to come up with a perfect name. And once we did, which was like a week ago, when I got to
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  call her Tati, we're just like, all right, we're doing it. I think that was the last thing. Yeah,
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  I think that there's a lot, there's a lot to the name, not just because of obvious reasons,
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  but there's a gap in the market for a podcast like this. And there's so many great Jewish podcasts,
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  but I needed something that will just make me laugh and kind of explore. And you laugh at yourself
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  the most. So you're just going to watch this over and over again. No, but like I think that there's
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  something about podcasts where people come on and they see stories, but they don't talk about
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  themselves in a funny way or share fun experiences and have let the world know who they are,
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  not for what they do for work, not for different things other than who they are inside.
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  I'm in real estate. I'm a real estate agent. I work in fashion also, but am I only about those
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  things? No, I think there's so much more to me that a lot of people just don't know yet. So we're
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  going to get in there. Well, most people don't know about my wife is she is probably the funniest
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  human being that I know. I most people only see like 15% of that that funniness, but I am rolling
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  on the floor in stitches at least once a day from just literally from the moment I met you. It's been
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  like that. So I hope I hope the audience gets a nice sense of that. Yeah. Yeah. I hope they do too.
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  So let's go. All right. So even though you're on social media and a lot of people know you from
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  Shark Tank and your startups, I think you need to reintroduce yourself on my podcast.
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  Okay. And for the people who don't know who you are, kind of just reintroduce yourself,
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  because I'm not going to assume everybody knows who you are. I think you think everybody in the
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  floor. No, I don't think anybody knows who I am. But I think for the people who don't know who
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  you are, who is Zoli Honeg in 30 seconds? Zoli Honeg is just a New Yorker living in Miami.
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  That's all. That's it. That's it. That's it. Okay. Besides for that, what's your focus?
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  What's in your career? So I've always been a nerd despite what I look like. I throw a lot of
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  people off to realize I still think you're a little bit of a nerd. I get because you know me for
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  three years. I'm sorry, we're married for three years. Okay. Anyways, always been a lot,
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  a big nerd. Always loved technology. Just had a real affinity towards it since I was a kid.
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  You know, I used to break all the things and then I learned how to fix them. I turned that into a
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  career. I started making money from fixing computers, got into startups before it was cool. Back
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  in 2009 was my first startup. This is literally before Instagram existed. Since then, I've done
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  three startups and sold them. And the last one was Wavecar, which some people know me as a
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  blah, blah, blah. The guy that was on Shark Tank. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's all right.
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  Well, I think people of our generation who understand tech AI, everything, like we get it.
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  But how would you describe what you currently do now to somebody's grandmother?
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  Make it very easy to understand. So I started my company two years ago. It's called short form
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  media. And short form media helps put executives on social media and get millions of views.
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  So here's another executive right here. Yeah, you have to marry the manager, huh?
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  I had to marry the manager because I'm never going to pay someone to manage me.
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  I'm too cheap for that. It happens to be, it happens to be. So I've been in social media for a while.
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  I have a knack for going viral. I only got into it because, you know, TikTok was just a fun hobby
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  for me. And in fact, the only reason I started this damn company was to spite you because what
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  did you tell me all the time when I was on TikTok? You're never going to make money. What are you doing
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  wasting your time on TikTok? You're a loser. Now I make all my money from TikTok. Thank you for
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  all the views. Yes. So I do want to say as viral as like my stuff has gone. For some reason,
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  whenever I put you in a video, it goes mega viral. Like we have so many videos where like it's just
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  the dumbest video. It's just a 10 second snapshot of the comedic genius that is Hava and the world
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  loves it. I don't know what it is about me, honestly. Like I just don't get it. Anyways. Look up
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  for your tea. For my tea, my white cloth tea. Anyways, I put that back. Okay. We know you. We know
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  what you do. And what's like something people just get wrong about you. Like people just assume
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  that you're one way. Like people assume I'm a little stuck up. I don't know why, but people do.
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  And then once they shut up and then once they get to know me, they're like, oh, like she's actually
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  and like I don't want to sound like I'm like totally bragging right now. But like once you get to know
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  me, like I'm actually a decent human being. You are. So what do people get wrong about you?
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  You've got a you've got a rough exterior. I think you just have to have thick skin in the game.
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  What people probably get wrong about me is they look at me. I'm a very avid. I used to be a runner
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  until I messed up my ankle. I'm very active. I lift weights and and I have zero athletic ability.
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  I know. Zero hand eye coordination. Like people say to me all the time, they're like, oh,
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  would you play in high school? I'm like Mario Kart? Yeah. No sports were not my thing. My dad didn't
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  even like watching it. So like it was just never a thing. Right. It's kind of ironic that like all
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  the athletes from like my high school are now, you know, like fascial ups and and like I'm
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  and you're some hotty patotty. I'm living in Miami. Yeah, I do think people who are into sports.
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  The only reason why they're into it is because their dad wasn't to it. I find it very
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  error to find guys who are into sports on their own. Right. Either their dad was really even like
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  really eschievous kids. Like their dad was always into baseball. So like they got into baseball
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  or they weren't a basketball. And I think it's like more of like a it's something like your
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  father, mother, both of them passed down to their kids. Like it became a culture in the household.
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  100%. Definitely not my household either. Yeah. Okay. So this is like an interesting question,
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  but I thought it was very cute. If you had to give yourself one emoji as like your description
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  of who you are, what would it be? Like an emoji. This one. Why? Because I'm always looking
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  at the world. Why is that like that? You know, I'm so annoying with that. I question everything.
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  I'm always why are they doing it like this? They could do it better. I'm always like looking at
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  the world like with one eyebrow wrist. No, it was funny. I was talking to Esther about this last
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  night. And Esther's like, who's Esther? Esther is my older sister. She's wonderful. She's
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  going to want to shout out amazing Esther who lives in Dallas. So we were talking about this and
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  Esther's like, you know what emoji you would be? I was like, what? And she's like this one.
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  Like the one with the no top lip. And I was like, wow, that is me. That is me. That is definitely me.
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  Okay. So we're going to like dive into this. But before we dive into it, what version are we
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  getting of Zoli today? Are we getting the entrepreneur? Are we getting the taxi? Are we getting the
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  husband? The husband. Okay. That's what you're getting. I'm going to take another drink for that.
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  Okay. We'll try it. Okay. So we're going to dive into this and we're going to start with our
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  little love story because it is absolutely fascinating. Yes. Yes. And tell everyone how we met.
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  Because you are a better at storytelling than I am. Aside from everyone suggesting that we
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  start a podcast together and we're going to give you the podcast. The number one thing is like,
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  how did you guys meet? And we have a very interesting meeting story. Kavanaugh are both on our
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  second marriage, right? This is our second marriage, both divorced. And we have a very interesting
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  way that we met each other. So I have a friend. His name is Rafi. We're not going to, we're not going
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  to, we're not going to, we're not going to, we're not going to like that. We're not going to name the
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  last name, but just Rafi. Good friend named Rafi and Rafi introduced me to my ex-wife. He made
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  that shit up. That was his first shit off. Yep. The second shit off that Rafi made was Hava to her
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  ex-husband. He also made one more. Spoiler alert, they also got divorced. Anyways, Hava has
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  been divorced for a couple years at this point. I call Rafi to tell him I'm separating from my
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  wife and his first call is to Hava. Hava I'm freaking out. My first shit off is getting divorced.
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  And would you say to him? So I was actually right about to walk into an appointment in the Upper
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  West Side because I was living in New York at the time. And I remember exactly three o'clock on the
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  dot. I get a phone call from Rafi. He's freaking out. He's like, I can't believe it. The first guy I
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  I ever set up and he got married to her. They're getting divorced. And I'm like,
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  bro, who is it? Because I've been living here for like four years. No luck. Still no ring on my
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  finger. Who's the guy? It's like, oh, I don't know if you know I'm Zoli Honeg. I'm like, that sounds
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  really familiar. And I go on Facebook. And I'm like, cute. Not on the market yet, which by the
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  way, that's like my favorite thing in the world is when something's not on the market off market deal.
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  Yeah. And then continue the story. Yeah. She goes, Zoli, oh, he's cute. She's like, should I
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  set it up? And she's like, no, I do not can involve this time around. No, I want to refund from
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  the first set up. Anyways, she friends me on Facebook. And my first DM to her is, I just open
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  with, we got to find the third couple and get them into counseling ASAP. I think they got to
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  for shortly after actually. We didn't get them into therapy. Anyways, we just we just hit it off
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  since then. We dated for quite a while. And and I have to say that at the time we met, it was
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  one of the lowest points in my life. You were rough. Well, I look good. You look the best you've
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  ever looked. I love you, but you were like, you, but I think everybody who gets divorced gets to
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  that point where like they just look their best because at this point, it's a revenge body. Yeah.
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  It's like I'm the hottest I've ever been. And I think that like level of energy you get from
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  going on from one chapter of your life to the next. There's this energy of like, it's going to be
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  better. And like, I think that only happens. Like once you have mourned your first marriage and then
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  you're actually ready to move on forward. Yeah. Anyways, at that point in my life, it was right
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  right around the time of COVID. I had gotten divorced. My company tanked in COVID because we were
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  based in LA and LA shut down. I had had a bunch like basically everything went wrong. I had to
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  essentially move into my parents house. Oh, you do. Yeah. I was living in my parents house.
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  My company fell apart. I got divorced. And I had every reason to be like the just very miserable.
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  But honestly, and I say this to everyone, God through me, the best gift in the world. And he
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  introduced you into my life. And I have been forever grateful ever since. You know, you love me a
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  lot. I do. You really do. A lot more than you love me. No, I just I express my love differently.
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  I say I love you. How many times do you say I love you? Like a hundred times a day. I get I get
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  I get a link if I'm lucky. Yeah. But I think it's I'm just the type of person where I say I love
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  you when I'm in that moment of like I just need to express myself. And you're just like I love you.
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  I love you. I love you. And I'm like, I don't know what I'm going to get hit by a truck. So if I'm
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  going out for a bike ride and I'm going to get hit by a truck, I would like that. I have said I love
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  you. I am the last thing we spoke about. Not did you get the milk? I've got for bed. I get hit by a
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  truck. I get creamer for the quark. Did you get creamer? That's going to be the last line. Probably
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  or what do you want for dinner? What do you want for dinner? Which is the first thought when you
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  crack your eyes open in the morning because it's something's in the freezer and I got to get it
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  defrosted and then I got to stick it in the fridge. I will get a text message at 630 in the morning.
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  What do you want for dinner? I think that's great. I think it's excellent. Honestly, you are amazing.
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  There is always dinner cooked. It's just awesome. But you make sure the house is stock. You cook
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  amazing dinner. Honestly, I prefer your steak to restaurants. Really? Yes. It's much better.
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  They're like a quarter of the price. I know. That's why we eat home most of the time.
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  We need to get that guy who cooked that steak on that show. Chef Daniel? I don't know.
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  Could you be whatever that was? Yeah. It looked so good. Anyways, I really want to know the
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  honest truth on this question because I don't feel like I believe you when you told me your
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  first answer to this question. But what was your real first impression of me like in person?
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  In person? Yeah. Like what went through your head? Well, it was a little different because
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  we were chatting for like a week and a half. I know, but when you meet someone in person,
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  you get a totally different impression. I was definitely intimidated. I was intimidated because
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  I don't know why I'm proud of that. Honestly, because you were just like so beautiful. I was not
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  used to like that level, honestly. Wow. Yeah. Thank you. I think, yeah, when I saw you, it was like
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  thing. He's hot. I was touched. I was trying to be classy about it, but okay, okay. But you,
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  whatever it is, what it is. But I think it's surprised you. You are a very short-sleeved t-shirt to
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  show your muskies. Yes. Until recently, I had been rocking the baby gap t-shirts until you have
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  welcomed me into the world of oversized t-shirts. Yeah. Yeah. No, that definitely had to stop because I
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  couldn't take it. I need to give you, I had to give you like a little bit of a glow up. Like we
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  had to change the hair. We had to change the clothes. Not a lot of get the Nazi haircut anymore.
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  Like the tight fade. She's like, you cannot get it anymore. You got to grow it out. I just don't
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  think it suits you. And it also gives me a lot of gay attention. That's fine. That's fine. I don't
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  care. You let him look. I don't care. Love it. I do love it. I don't know. Was there ever a point
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  where you might have felt like, she the right one? Honestly, Hava was the second girl I seriously
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  dated. The first girl I seriously dated, I also married. And we started dating like maybe two
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  months after I gave the get. So I was just skeptical. I was skeptical of myself because you know,
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  when you get divorced, you you're like, I made the wrong decision for whatever reason.
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  Well, everything happens for a reason that thank God I have two beautiful kids. I love very much
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  and they were meant to be here. But I didn't really date a lot. I didn't really explore my options.
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  Right. And you know, like a down ladies. And so while we were dating, I literally thought to myself
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  like, this is too good to be true. Like maybe it is. I would just so skeptical. I'm like,
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  is it really possible that like the first one at the first one out the gate is the perfect girl
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  for me? Like it's the the likelihood is so low. You hear people like dating forever. And that's
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  why I struggled with it for so long. I was just like, I don't believe it. It's not possible. It's
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  so funny because I had the complete opposite experience of like, I got to do this again. And then
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  after the next guy I dated and then I got to do it again, like, cut me a break with you. You're
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  like, that's it. There's no break. It's just like one to the next. Basically. And so,
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  so I mean, I think we broke up maybe like twice for like a day. You want to talk about that?
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  Not really. No, you know, when I talk about it, we could talk about it another time. No,
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  well, we could say we could say it. No, so he was unsure if I was the one. I just find
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  you can see the story. But just say it. Okay. So I was kind of, you know, like, I'm skeptical.
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  So I'm just like, listen, I need to just like, I need to just go on a few dates. I don't want
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  to like date other people. I just need to go on a few dates with like other girls that people
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  suggest to me that like are, you know, so one girl, my mother suggested she was crazy about
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  her. She's like, you have. And so I'm just like, all right, fine. Right? I do it. You were. I was
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  pissed. I was like, excuse me. After a year of dating, you're going to go on a date with some
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  brand. We were old because your mother said she liked her like, I'm like, okay, and I got mad.
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  I must have called your phone 30 times on that date. Oh, you did. Did my name pop up? Did she see it?
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  I hope she saw it. Hold on. At this point, we have to set the context. You were like ready to go.
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  You were like ready to getting. I was divorced for four years. I did it in every Jewish guy in
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  New York. I was done. So I wasn't ready. I wasn't ready. And so I, and so you said, okay, fine.
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  Like, you were like, we're not dating. You're like, no, if you were going to go out with another
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  girl, I said for that. You anyway, no, when you went out, I was mad because I'm like, what is
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  this? I know we also spoke all day long every day, whether we were like dating or not. So
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  never Corona crushed. That was fun. Oh, okay, wait. Let's finish the story. Okay. So my mother
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  wants me to go out with this girl. I go out with her. And, you know, Hava goes, oh, that's not
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  a problem because that's the after the second girl you were. Oh, that's the second girl.
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  Yeah. So we went out with two girls in between the time we were dating and then to the time he
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  like grew up here and said, we're dating for reals now. Oh, these girls. I hope they don't see
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  this. No, I don't care. See it. Anyway, I went out with this one girl and my phone was like
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  ringing the entire time. But the second girl, which was the funniest thing and probably like the
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  phone. But this is where I got smarter. This was the most diabolical thing she has ever done.
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  Okay. So I had this other date. I had a good friend was like, I think you guys are really going
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  to hit it off. I think you should know I said, okay, fine. I'll try it out. This was one of those
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  days where like like five minutes and I'm like, oh, this is going to be a waste of a night. Like
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  it was just it was so not a match. And honestly, I'm so grateful that I did go out on those two
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  dates because it made me appreciate you so much more. And ladies, you did me a favor. And and
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  it literally whatever. You know what? You're listening. This is what you're going to listen to. Okay.
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  Anyways, I so I so I I'm telling you around going on this date and you go, oh, that's fine.
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  I'm I have a date of my own. And I'm like, oh, really? Who are you going out with? And she's like,
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  I'm not telling you. No, but I'm like, he's a good looking guy. He's successful. He's rich.
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  Has a yacht. You didn't say the yacht part. I did tell you that. I did I told you as a boat.
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  All right. Fine. Anyways, whatever. Hold on. Okay. So what does she do? Oh my god. So she just
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  goes meet the whole night. Like I get home from the date. I text her. I'm like, oh, man,
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  that what a waste of time. Terrible date. Like it's touch the dud. No response. You know, like,
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  and I want to respect her. I don't want to like blow her up. And that's the first time I've ever
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  ghosted you in my life. Yeah. In my life. We usually are like like every 10 minutes we're talking
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  and and I don't want to disturb. I'm like, hey, you still out? Question mark. No response.
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  And then it's like, it's getting later. It's like 11 o'clock. I was like, I'm going to go to
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  sleep soon. Hope you're okay. And I'm like freaking out inside. No response. I wake up in the
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  middle of the night and check my phone. No response. Finally in the morning, I think I think I got
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  we were out of FaceTime or something. No, I did not FaceTime you. It wasn't FaceTime. We text
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  it. And then and I'm like, you okay? And she's like, yes, I'm like, how is your date? And she
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  what did I say? There was no date. She just stayed on. I literally binge Netflix. Oh my god.
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  And it snacks the entire night. That's that's probably and I put my phone away and I said to hell
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  with the sky, I'm going to enjoy myself with my Netflix and my snacks. The pain you put me
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  on. You got me like that was that was like fine payback. Like it was such a good strategic move.
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  Oh, can I tell you the other strategic move that you did which made me realize what a freaking genius
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  you are? Okay. So so back in New York for a certain point, you were working at a custom
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  suit place called Fino. And you got 50% off of suits. So we made a couple of suits there. Great
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  suits. And so when you get a custom suit, you can get them embroidered. And so we put my name on
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  the jacket, whatever. And she goes, what do you want embroidered in your pants? You can you can do
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  on the waistband. You can embroider something. I said, I don't know, surprise me this girl. Oh my
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  god. You know, she did. You know, she put it in her in my pants. Her phone number. She embroidered
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  her cell phone number in my pants. Well, let's say it was like lose my number. You lose your
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  phone. Oh my god. She was setting up. Oh my god. An insurance policy. I just didn't want you
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  to forget about me. And you wanted if there was anyone else interacting with those trousers.
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  Okay. You wanted them to see that number. Maybe when you get lost in the dry cleaners, they'll
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  call me. Yes, exactly. Yes, exactly. Okay. So that's like enough about our dating life.
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  Can you think like that? Yeah. That's basically history. Yeah. And then we just kept dating.
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  Then we got married. We're basically, yeah, we're basically inseparable since we've been married
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  for three years. I, I basically sold my company to a company down here in Miami. I moved down.
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  You moved a month later. No. I think we both, we came here for a simple stora one year.
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  Was it simple stora? I don't remember something like that. We went, we came down here and I think
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  we both sort of like looked at each other and we were just like, oh, we totally manifest and moving
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  here. We're just like, I think we can move here. Well, I manifested a lot in my brain, which I
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  did not verbally say in the car, which, which actually blew my mind when the time came for me to
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  sell a specific property here, because I remember being there's on Collins. Okay. And I'm looking
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  across the canal and I see this house. And I'm like, dang, that's a nice house. Long story short,
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  I sold that house a few years later. So I was like, not too shabby. And I think, um, you know,
• 24:24
  I think that like obviously we live here in Miami. And it's just, it's from LA. I'm from LA
• 24:30
  originally. So Lee's from New York. I lived in New York for a few years. Obviously you mentioned
• 24:35
  that we both moved here, but I moved to a place called Brickle. Brickle. And a lot of people don't
• 24:42
  know what Brickle is, which I personally like. Is that in South Beach? Where is Brickle? Basically,
• 24:50
  like the Jews know Miami Beach, Zach, the Baker, Aventura, and Bell Harbor. And then once you go
• 24:58
  to Broward, you know, Boca, but like nobody really knows even what Brickle is. Broward County.
• 25:03
  Yeah, they don't know. That's where like Hollywood is. I know, but most people don't know that.
• 25:06
  Oh, anyways, yeah, but we live in Brickle. We love it. The community there is just wonderful.
• 25:13
  We're big, uh, big robots. We're big, school people. Yeah. We love school. We're literally
• 25:17
  in school every week. I'm in school seven days a week, which most people are surprised to learn. Yes.
• 25:23
  But I do have a key to the place. I know. They don't do presidents at
• 25:26
  Khabads, because like they don't have that whole, but it's just like what the rabbi say goes. But
• 25:31
  yeah, um, suffice to say when the rabbis are out of town, um, I'm running the place. Yeah.
• 25:36
  Yeah, we also got married in the shoe on the rooftop, despite us not wanting a wedding. Whatever.
• 25:40
  It is what it is. We did it. We never made an album. I do want to redo our pictures, though. I
• 25:45
  don't like our pictures. Okay. Only because I just didn't like my whole look. I like the dress I bought,
• 25:50
  but like I just, um, we were also sweating bullets. Oh, yeah, it was very hot. It's so hot. Don't
• 25:55
  get married here in the summertime outside. Don't just don't do it. Okay. Okay. So now we're going to
• 26:00
  go back in time to your upbringing, your childhood. Okay. Just to like give the viewers a little
• 26:07
  backstory. Sure. What did you want to be when you were growing up? I think it's very funny, but, uh,
• 26:14
  I want to be a singer. Do you want to sing something for us? No, I don't want to sing something for
• 26:18
  us. That because, uh, I think I was just pre-pubescent. I don't think I actually had a good voice, but, uh,
• 26:24
  was that like your secret talent or was that like unknown talent? I just was in like all the
• 26:30
  choirs like every school had a choir and like in camp or whatever you're always like doing the
• 26:35
  singing thing. I'm like, I'm pretty good at this. Like maybe I maybe I can do this. Actually went
• 26:40
  to my dad when I was a little older and I'm like, Hey, I think I'll go into real estate and he's like,
• 26:44
  No, you do your own thing. You do what you dad's like staying your lane. Basically. No, he basically said
• 26:49
  he's like, I forged my path. You'll forge your own. So what is something like a hobby that you have
• 26:55
  that were or a talent, actually? Like a talent that you have that really nobody really knows about?
• 27:00
  I think it's singing. Unless you come to school, you don't know that I can I can I have like a pretty
• 27:06
  powerful voice. You do. Should I do a little you can you can hear? Oh man, this is a. Okay. What are we doing?
• 27:13
  You always miss my chakras. I'm usually a chakras guy. That's the first prayer in the morning.
• 27:25
  You don't let me practice at home though. When I'm not there, you can. Yeah, but then we name whatever.
• 27:30
  Okay. We got neighbors. Okay, so when we were kids and getting a computer was like the most
• 27:37
  exciting thing in the world and everyone had like one computer at home. There's one computer and
• 27:41
  like, yeah, I have a password and it was just always like the family computer family. What was your
• 27:47
  screen name? My first AOL instant messenger screen name was Z. Zoltan 1025 full version of Zoli
• 27:56
  is Zoltan, like dude, where's my car? Zoltan. But that was my grandfather's name, which is a very
• 28:02
  common name in Hungary. And then I changed it to Zman 11559. And everyone thought it was
• 28:07
  Zman 11559. And for some reason, I picked my zip code. So it would make sense that it would be Zman.
• 28:12
  It's chakras. Yes, exactly. All right, so now we're going to like kind of skip over to your high
• 28:18
  school days. Okay. Describe yourself in three words. Do you want to know where I went to high school?
• 28:24
  Do we? Do we care? I guess so, just that. I went to South Shore for elementary school, which was a
• 28:29
  Yishivish, you know, black hat place. I went, I went, I went, I went to Rambaum, which is a more
• 28:36
  modern orthodox. My parents did not let me go to South Shore High School. It was not a great school.
• 28:42
  Not in the card. It was not in the cards. And I actually carried the black hat into Rambaum,
• 28:48
  and it lasted two years or a year and a half, I should say. And then it came off.
• 28:52
  Wow, it looks so Yishivish. It came off hard. Camp Roma Moo will do that to you.
• 28:57
  Yeah. Well, I had a very, very, very from upbringing. Tarts tights like the whole bit. But I skipped
• 29:04
  12th grade, did not go to seminary. I went straight from 11th grade to college, and I went to
• 29:10
  fiddle, which is the fashion institute of design, merchandising, and downtown L.A. So going from
• 29:15
  an environment like the Siaco to one of the most liberal colleges ever was a real culture shock.
• 29:23
  But I actually enjoyed that like shock of like you're thrown into it. Like how do you handle
• 29:29
  yourself? How do you handle like issues around you? And also like we had a lot of group projects.
• 29:34
  And it's like how do you handle things with other people and different personalities and different
• 29:39
  backgrounds? And I think it was such a good experience for me in that way. And that kind of like
• 29:43
  threw me into like the real world. But I'm so happy. I skipped 12th grade and I did not go to
• 29:50
  Israel. I'm so happy. I'm so happy. Only because like I was never the girl who was going to go to
• 29:55
  the seminary and like stark out like that was never going to happen. I think we know that.
• 30:01
  But that's for sure. I mean like I did do it here in Israel. I I went to Hakotel, which was great.
• 30:07
  It's in the old city of Jerusalem. Very nice. Yes. I feel like I'm hearing about this for the
• 30:12
  first time. I don't know any of the Ashivas or seminaries in Israel. All you all you have to know is like
• 30:17
  the first time he told me I'm like I don't even know what that means. All you have to know is like
• 30:21
  you know the Kotel like little further back. That's where I like it was weird. Like you slept
• 30:27
  in the old city. It was just really weird. Okay. So now we're going to get back to my original
• 30:30
  question. Okay. Your original question. Which is describe yourself in three words who you were
• 30:34
  in high school. Got it. Chubby. Okay. I'm saying nerdy. Okay. nerdy. Chubby. Chubby nerd is basically
• 30:42
  the two. I think chubby nerd is good enough. Just two. Just two. Just two. What were mine?
• 30:48
  I don't know. What were yours? I don't know. I'm blanking. You're blanking on your three.
• 30:51
  You're three. Okay. Spoiled. Right. Trouble maker. Yeah. Funny because that was a goody tushus.
• 30:57
  Right. You were a goody tushus. And what was the last one? Hot. Hot.
• 31:05
  I'm usually more humble, but I'll take it. Those were the good old days. Yeah. Those were the
• 31:10
  good old days. Um, so was that the days where you ate like a muffin and diet coke? You know what?
• 31:16
  In high school, if you ate an apple for lunch, that was like not considered like normal, but
• 31:20
  everyone did it. That's LA. No, I think it's high school. Girls in high school are first all,
• 31:25
  they're terrible. They're terrible people. Everyone's like so judgmental of each other. Yeah.
• 31:31
  And especially if you're a girl in an environment where you're going to get married so young,
• 31:35
  so you have to look good. You know what I said? People start looking at you when you're 17 years old.
• 31:40
  So it's like for marriage. Well, they're getting married at 18. So it's like, oh, who's next year?
• 31:45
  Who's the seminary class, whatever? What are your thoughts on getting married young as someone
• 31:49
  who got married the first time at hell? I got married at 20. I got married at 21. I think I'm
• 31:55
  not going to say it doesn't work for anybody because it has successfully worked for some people.
• 32:00
  But that person who's going to decide to get married at a young age to somebody who is also in
• 32:08
  the same community and they share the same values and ignorance is bliss. They don't know any
• 32:15
  better and like, that's just how it works and it's like, that's just what you do. That's fine.
• 32:21
  But I think for people who do it and there's no real drive to do it other than judgment from
• 32:29
  a community or like, what are you doing? You've been dating for so long. You're just going to want
• 32:33
  you to just date. Well, I think people need to pump the brakes a little bit because the
• 32:40
  divorce rate has skyrocketed in the past 10 years. And if that is not the biggest indicator to like,
• 32:47
  maybe like fix something or wait a little bit so people can get married when they're actually ready
• 32:54
  versus like, this is what you do. I'm like, whatever. I'll put it like this. The human brain
• 32:59
  isn't fully developed until you're 25 years old. Don't make decisions for the rest of your life
• 33:04
  when you don't have full brain capacity. Just wait a few years. Okay. Like, advice from books.
• 33:11
  Just chill out. You're fine. You're fine. Yeah. I do think that there is this stigma of if you don't
• 33:17
  get married by a certain age or either something wrong with you. What's like the age world?
• 33:22
  There's something wrong with you. And the issue of this world, like if you're a girl and you're
• 33:26
  24, 25, like you're getting old, which is like 25 is old. Oh, yeah. Okay. What's the average age
• 33:33
  of like marriage in the US? I have no idea. I would say it's probably closer to 30. I mean,
• 33:38
  it's definitely getting older. Yeah. And I think it's getting older. And in the religious world,
• 33:42
  and not everyone's having babies later. It's also we're living in a totally different
• 33:47
  world than what the world was 15, 20 years ago. Yeah. Can't just buy a house as easily as you could.
• 33:53
  I mean, interest rates are ridiculous. If you need one color,
• 33:58
  coming. I think I think just everything in life is so much more expensive. And with AI and
• 34:06
  technology on the rise, everything is just going to get even harder to attain, like making money
• 34:11
  unless you're in the AI space. Like it's just going to get harder. But I do think that we have to
• 34:18
  as a community, stopping so judgmental to people who aren't necessarily going on the
• 34:26
  derach that everybody wants to go on. Some people like myself and like you, we we pave our own
• 34:30
  derach. We're not going off. You're paving your own. You're making your own life. And that's what
• 34:35
  you're supposed to do. We're not supposed to be the same. We all have different meanings in life.
• 34:40
  We all have different half kids. We have different things that we need to get done in this world.
• 34:45
  And for some people, it's getting married at 19 and having 10 kids and having your husband
• 34:51
  as a rabbi. And sometimes it's, no, you have a few and you go make money and then you give
• 34:56
  Sadaqa and you do other things. You know, like everyone has a different purpose in this world.
• 35:01
  Yeah. What's my purpose? Color tati. Probably. But I will, anyways, let's continue.
• 35:12
  I think, I think we've had enough on that. Yeah.
• 35:16
  If you weren't doing what you do now, what would you be doing?
• 35:20
  If I wasn't in this social media space, I'd probably be running like an AI consulting firm
• 35:26
  or something like that. Besides for the short form video stuff, I'm being a complete social media
• 35:31
  nerd like AI has, you can't talk to me for five minutes without me mentioning AI. I know it's
• 35:38
  kind of annoying. I'm sorry. It's okay. Let me ask you this question. I just know it's going to,
• 35:43
  it's going to take over the entire earth and everyone's going to lose their jobs unless you
• 35:48
  have an army of AI robots. It literally keeps you up at night. I know. Yeah. You are literally
• 35:53
  shifting the moment. I can't sleep. AI is coming. Literally. I really feel like I am, I am Noah
• 36:00
  and the floods coming and I know it's coming and I warn everyone. And everyone's like,
• 36:06
  crazy, Zoli. Now I'm going to ask you this question. And I don't even know if you're prepared
• 36:10
  to answer. But if money was no object, what would be your dream job if you made the same amount of
• 36:15
  money in any job you had? So very good question. Honestly, I love what I do right now. So that's
• 36:21
  like, that's it. I would still be dabbling in technology. Like, I love to build. When I feel the
• 36:30
  most like anxiety or unfulfilled is when I'm not building, like when I'm not doing something
• 36:37
  productive. That's why when I was like working in like a corporate sort of job when I sold my
• 36:42
  companies, like I was miserable. I have to be building it. Since I was a kid, I was building
• 36:47
  Legos and I'm building my company now. So if money was no object, I'd still be building stuff to
• 36:53
  like make the world a better place or or do something cool. I just love building. And so right
• 36:59
  now it's in social media and AI and I'm building a company. And it is the most stressful thing of
• 37:05
  my life. I've gotten getting a lot of grace. I have gone so grace since I started this company.
• 37:10
  At least you have hair. Oh my god. I got my chin's here. Oh my god. It's crazy. But yeah,
• 37:15
  funny because would I be doing real estate if money was no object? Probably not. No, you'd be
• 37:20
  doing fashion. Yeah. And like, I didn't buy that. Tell us what you do in fashion. So what do I do
• 37:26
  in fashion? I'm a ghost stylist. And if you don't know what that is, if you've ever walked around
• 37:31
  the adventurimal, I used to work closely with Kimi Susman, who is a celebrity stylist, who happens
• 37:40
  to be the head stylist of the adventurimal. And we still do some projects together. And I work with
• 37:46
  the marketing team at Turnberry. And anytime there's like a holiday gift guide, graduation gift
• 37:53
  guide, mother's day, father's day, summer trends, all of that, I am kind of the ghost stylist
• 37:59
  behind it. Oh, it doesn't like to talk about this. But there's two things you need to know about
• 38:02
  her. Number one, she can literally so address from scratch. And she goes, what? This whole thing,
• 38:07
  nobody's deal. She literally can take like the fabric from this couch and turn it into like a
• 38:13
  gorgeous dress. That's number one. Number two, she was like a major celebrity stylist. Like,
• 38:18
  she literally styled Chris Jenner. Okay. Who else did you style? What are the celebrities?
• 38:22
  The NFL players. I mean, this was back in 2013 when I was still living in L.A. And I worked with
• 38:30
  Icon House, but we had Jane Fonda, Hillary Swank. I don't know. We have like a bunch of celebrities.
• 38:37
  Olivia Munn. And like, I would do the polls for them. And I would get them dressed like right before
• 38:41
  an event and tell a story about when you were styling Chris Jenner. No, I'm not going into that.
• 38:46
  Oh, you can't do that one. I probably cook as that NDA is expired. But I don't think Kim is
• 38:51
  watching the podcast. Kim. And if she is, I mean, Kim, I listen to your advice on something,
• 38:58
  but I'm not going to say what it was, but it was good piece of advice. I was sitting on the floor
• 39:03
  of Chris's bathroom and Kim looks at me and she was like super pregnant with North. And she's like,
• 39:10
  wait till you have kids. Just wait as long as you can. It's it's and then like the next minute,
• 39:15
  she's like being photographed by pop Rossi and she like looks amazing. And she's like,
• 39:19
  I feel so good. I'm like, girl, you feel like how? But whatever it was definitely an experience.
• 39:27
  And I love those experiences. But yeah, but I think I'm done with like the personal shopping
• 39:33
  and styling thing because it just sucks the life out of me. And I already deal with people
• 39:37
  on an emotional level when it comes to residential real estate. And I'm like, I cannot deal with
• 39:41
  somebody making me crazy over a pair of shoes. I can make someone like, I'll allow someone to go
• 39:46
  crazy over me and like a property. Should I buy it? Should I not? Should I like, I could deal with
• 39:51
  that. It's worth it. I'm not going to deal with clothing like that anymore. Nope. What is one thing?
• 39:56
  A physical thing, a thought, a thought you would just give it away. But what is a physical thing
• 40:01
  or something that like yourself is about and you would never share with me? You know what mine is?
• 40:06
  Water bottles. I don't share water bottles with anybody. I don't care. I'll pour it. It's just the
• 40:10
  thought of it just grosses me out. What about you? You own me. There's literally nothing I wouldn't
• 40:18
  share with you. Literally. What am I going to, what am I going to, what? I don't know. I
• 40:24
  sure I know you really would. I literally would share anything with you. It's so nice. Yeah. I think
• 40:29
  we've like crossed all the boundaries that have been crossed. Yep. 100%. There is nothing that we don't
• 40:36
  know. Nothing. No, we're going to play a little game of this or that early riser or night owl.
• 40:44
  I am up at 5 a.m. every day. I know. You make it known. Do you know what I, okay, so harvest the
• 40:50
  lightest sleeper in the world and I have to be the cool. I have learned to be a ninja because if
• 40:57
  I, if God forbid, I wake her up at 5.15 a.m. because I use the coffee machine. I am dead. Okay. I know,
• 41:05
  I know that. If you don't have your sleep, you're cranky. It's just, it's not a good day.
• 41:10
  So actually this morning, I should, we'll pull up the picture. Did you do it again this morning?
• 41:15
  No, no, because I had the hot water. But I needed to make coffee and I usually have a hot water
• 41:19
  urn that's like silent. But I didn't have that. So I need to keep it on from shadows. So I needed to
• 41:24
  use the Nespresso maker. And if you know Nespresso, it's, you know, first the pod falls out and then it
• 41:31
  clicks and I knew that would wake her up. So I literally took a blanket. I put it over the thing
• 41:36
  and then when I opened it, I like caught the pod so it wouldn't even drop. And then when I closed
• 41:41
  it, I like hugged it tight so that it wouldn't hear the click. This is how afraid I am of waking you
• 41:46
  up in the morning. That is the wrath I will face. I guess so bad. Do you, are you so miserable?
• 41:53
  I can't have ice coffee in the morning because no, because you make a ruckus with the ice.
• 41:58
  Everyone makes it. It's fine. War card or play hard?
• 42:01
  War card. We don't really do much. You don't. We don't even like, we don't even go out really. We're
• 42:07
  like old people. We're in bed by 9.30. Yeah. Most of us. We're out by like 10.30. 11. Yeah.
• 42:13
  Yeah. Would you prefer a fancy dinner out or a cozy night in?
• 42:17
  A cozy night in Chinese food on the floor. It doesn't have to be on the floor. But that's just
• 42:21
  there's something about something reminiscent about either Chinese food on the floor. When we moved
• 42:25
  here to Miami, we, I don't know why. It's like one of like our core memories that like locked us
• 42:31
  in. Because you got your apartment in Brickle and you had no furniture and you had to wait for
• 42:36
  the delivery and you kept raining and they pushed it off. And all you had was a bed. I don't
• 42:44
  even think you had your couch. No, I just had a mattress. Yeah, you're nothing in there. And we
• 42:49
  got take out from where? We got to take out from somewhere. I don't remember.
• 42:53
  Was a bamboo? No. It was I maybe walk on the beach or whatever. And we just ate it on the floor.
• 42:59
  We just ate on the floor. We had a TV. Yeah, the mattress and a TV. That's it.
• 43:03
  Real guys apartment. And I like, I started, I remember I started laughing
• 43:08
  hysterically because it was just like the funniest thing to me. I'm like, this is my life.
• 43:13
  This is my life. I'm eating Chinese food on the floor with only a mattress on a TV. This is so
• 43:18
  sad. But it was really fun because it was just like a funny experience. And it was whatever.
• 43:24
  At the time, like, it was just like, wow, like, this is what we've come to. Yes.
• 43:29
  Yes. Yeah. No, all right. We've grown up since then. Yes, we have. We have a table and chairs.
• 43:34
  Yes. Yes. Save the best bite for last or eat it first. Save the best for last.
• 43:42
  Text message or voice. No. Do not voice. Don't send me a voice. No, please. I will block you.
• 43:47
  Voice note. Stop it. Sending voice notes is one of the most inconsiderate thing. Well, I mean,
• 43:52
  they they've introduced the transcription feature. No, but why don't people? Why don't people
• 43:56
  talk into that? Let's just let's put like it. If I'm on a call, I can't listen to your voice note.
• 44:02
  If I'm doing something else with someone else, I can't, if I, if you send, if you take the extra
• 44:07
  seconds to just type the message, I can glance at it. I could be, but you can't do that if it's a
• 44:12
  voice note. I mean, they're super inconsiderate. Please stop sending voice notes. I agree. Don't
• 44:18
  do it anymore. Please thank you. Plan ahead or wing it. Wing it. I'm ADHD. I know. It drives me crazy.
• 44:24
  You are a plane 18 years ahead. So far ahead, but I think it always works out. That's my problem.
• 44:30
  Like for you, it works. I procrastinate with like most things in my life, but ultimately,
• 44:37
  like just it's that it's this thing with ADHD people, which I have a crazy case of, which like,
• 44:44
  I don't think you really don't get it. I tried on. You really don't get it, but there's this thing
• 44:48
  where we procrastinate to the last second, and then like, we're like, oh, shit, we got to get this
• 44:53
  done. And and you just go into like overdrive and like, you just pull it off. And then you just,
• 44:59
  you do that once, you do that twice. And then you're just like, oh, you know, I hate that. I hate
• 45:04
  that so much. I know. I would love to be like you and prepare a year ahead, but that's just,
• 45:09
  this is not. It's not going to sleep better. Okay. Adventurous vacation or beach bum trip.
• 45:15
  Beach bum trip. Yeah, but sometimes I like a little adventure. Milkshakes or Flashegs.
• 45:21
  You know, I used to be more in Milkshakes. Gamma. Because you never want it to be Flashegs. But now,
• 45:25
  I, you know what? You're an adult. I love Flashegs. Steak and eggs. You're an adult. Oh my god.
• 45:31
  Like, steak and eggs is incredible. I know you don't like it, but it's so good. No, I like salami
• 45:36
  and eggs. Salami. Salami isn't salami like terrible for you. It is. But everything on this
• 45:42
  planet's back for you. I like quantities. Water. Shabbosnap or Shabboswalk. Oh, this is the,
• 45:51
  this is the bane of our relationship. I come home from shul. Khabaz bin put in who knows how much
• 45:58
  that gallon of tequila. And I was like, all right, let's go for a walk. I'm like, no, I want
• 46:03
  a nap. Yeah. So I want the nap. You want the walk. And then we end up going for the walk. Because,
• 46:08
  yes, because the two most important words in any relationship is, yes, dear. Okay. I'll take it.
• 46:14
  Khala puppet. Our middle slice. You have to explain what a puppet is because I don't know why my
• 46:19
  mom and I came up with this. But you did. I don't know who came up with it. But it's funny.
• 46:24
  The collar roll. No. It's the end of the collar. It just, you know, we're like the end of like
• 46:29
  the braid is sticking out. Whatever. I'm a, I'm a, I'm a puppet guy. Okay. Okay. Plastic
• 46:36
  over the tablecloth. Don't even start. No. Or just tablecloth. No. I had a, I have a solution.
• 46:41
  What's that? Don't put a tablecloth at all. And there's no problem for some reason. For some
• 46:46
  reason, most Jewish mothers are like, like God forbid, you could ever read on a table without a
• 46:52
  tablecloth. I never noticed that. I know. Like a placemat's not good enough. Why is that? It
• 46:57
  must be like an alt-a-heim thing where it's just like that's what that's all about. Because it's a
• 47:00
  shulkhun and it has to be covered. Is that like a, is that a lot of thing? I don't know.
• 47:06
  Haring or sushi at the kids. If you eat sushi on chabas, I have a problem with that thing. The,
• 47:11
  okay. It's the same. That's a personal thing. It depends on the quality of both. Like,
• 47:15
  did you bring a sushi guy in and it's fresh or it's like from yesterday? I, I like hearing a lot
• 47:21
  actually. You love herring. I like whitefish. You love whitefish. You are an old Jewish man. We,
• 47:26
  like, last week. Like, by the way, for the record, if I ever wanted a sponsor, my number one sponsor,
• 47:30
  my request would be Flom's. Hit a girl up. Or Tov Tom. Tov Tom. Maneshavis. Maneshavis. I mean,
• 47:36
  but Maneshavis. It's not even high-mish. Maneshavis is really good. It's not high-mish. I mean,
• 47:40
  it's good. It's a little, it's a little Shabbat Shalom-y. Yeah. Yeah, but I like that. Like,
• 47:45
  spice it up. New brand's fantastic. I will give them that. Cholent with or without beans.
• 47:51
  Cholent without beans. I like Cholent and sweet potato. Yeah. Yeah. No beans for your sake.
• 47:57
  For you or for me? For you. Oh, okay. The shules Cholent has beans. Shabbat tissue squares
• 48:03
  or toilet paper. Do you even know what I'm referring to? I think I do. It's like pre-cut
• 48:10
  one-ply toilet paper that they sell with the kosher markers. It feels like sand paper. It is so
• 48:17
  rough. Oh my god. Yeah. I only know about that because like my dad got it for in the
• 48:22
  shule bathroom because the plumbing was sensitive. Oh, yeah. It's a great. Oh my god. Yeah,
• 48:28
  no toilet paper. Thank you. So, are we going to do Friday night smurros or deep conversations?
• 48:37
  It's pens who's at the table. It really makes a difference. Yeah. And like your audience really.
• 48:45
  Shut up resume or meet them in real life. I honestly think I'm going to answer this. I honestly
• 48:52
  think it depends on who you are and what stage in life you're in. Because if I had a child and
• 48:58
  they were dating at 18 years old, I would kind of want to know at least some basic information.
• 49:02
  So, I think there's a resume. You don't need a resume for that. You can just get on a phone call.
• 49:07
  I know. What? Why? It resume to me is the dumbest thing. You're going to let some like
• 49:12
  Shodson lady define your life on an 8 1 1 1 half by 11 piece of paper and one picture. That's the
• 49:18
  dumbest thing I ever heard. How can you capture a person's essence on a bio? You can't. Like, just
• 49:25
  meet the person. There's no other way. Do a FaceTime call. Like what? Why are we treating this?
• 49:31
  Like it's 1876. We have the technology. It's this or that, but there's three options.
• 49:36
  Fast day. Nap through it. Power through it. Or binge, Huffitz Chaim, Heritage Foundation,
• 49:43
  video. I power through the first half and then I pass out for the second half. Okay. Paisach program
• 49:51
  or get a villa and hire a chef and have your own Paisach. Taka, good child. I think it depends
• 49:58
  on the situation. I'm going for the villa. Me too. But if I was a kid, I'd want to be at a program.
• 50:03
  As an adult, I want to have my own villa. Yeah. That's true. Yeah. I guess you'd be bored as a kid.
• 50:08
  So we're going to stop at those questions. And now we're going to do a little bit more of like
• 50:14
  deeper thought provoking questions. Wow. What's one thing that you have changed your mind about
• 50:21
  in the past couple of years? I think you changed my mind about this. I think I
• 50:29
  limited myself a lot in what I could achieve. And I really thought that you only had to get to
• 50:37
  like a certain level to make it. But you spent, you basically told me to your blue in the face,
• 50:43
  like no, actually you're capable of like this. And I definitely saw way more potential in you
• 50:49
  than you saw on yourself. And that's what they say. You should always marry the person that
• 50:52
  that believes more in your dreams. And I think it's the same thing with you and me where you
• 50:56
  totally were like, no, you could do it. And I'm like, no, we can't do it. You literally wanted
• 51:00
  to quit real estate before you got like the biggest listing of your career, like a week before.
• 51:04
  And I said, you are not. I'm about to throw in that damn town. You were so ready to quit. And I
• 51:09
  said, you are not quitting. You are amazing. Honestly, if you were the CEO of my company, my company
• 51:14
  would be worth a lot more than this right now, just very much. But I don't, one day we're going to,
• 51:20
  we're going to have a business together. One day, one day, we're going to have a business together.
• 51:24
  We are. Yeah. I saw it in a vision. Yeah. I have the visions, bro, not you. That's true. She does.
• 51:31
  She can tell the code. There's sometimes she can tell the future. I could, but it's sometimes I
• 51:36
  just keep it to myself because like too much, too much. Okay. What's one hill you're willing to
• 51:42
  die on, whether people are on board with you or not, like you have this, have this in your mind,
• 51:48
  and you're like, I don't care if people agree with me. AI is going to take away your job. Whoever's
• 51:52
  listening, AI will take away your job in some capacity. I actually think that unless you have an
• 51:58
  army of robots or AI agents working for you, you will be replaced. There's no, like, I don't see
• 52:04
  any other version of it. They're going to have like one lawyer because it's going to be able to
• 52:08
  do the work of a thousand lawyers. And if you don't think that's coming, that I'll die on that hill.
• 52:15
  We're going to end off this podcast. That was kind of depressing. What? I just told everyone,
• 52:20
  like, you're all screwed. Is it going to replace everybody for everything? No, I mean, we'll have
• 52:23
  like new jobs and stuff. But if you want to really like have your mind blown, read the book.
• 52:28
  The singularity is nearer by Ray Kurzweil. It's freaking wild. I told you about it, but you tuned
• 52:36
  out. I always turn out. If your life were a movie, what movie title would it be?
• 52:42
  Movie title. That Titanic. Why is your life just such a sinking ship?
• 52:50
  Can Chris Hemsworth play me? Absolutely. Okay. What's mine? Mean girls. I'm kidding. That's
• 52:57
  actually not bad. Really? You were so mean to me. You were the meanest to me. But do you love me?
• 53:03
  Oh, more than anything. I honestly think like that's why I actually think that's why I was
• 53:08
  bullied so much in school. So I could grow a thick skin and whenever you you roast me, I just
• 53:13
  laugh. I think that you have to grow a thick skin regardless of who you married because you're in a
• 53:19
  world and in a business where you have to have thick skin and you have to, I mean, I'm also in
• 53:26
  a business where you have to have thick skin. Like, man, I learned how to deal with uncomfortable
• 53:34
  situations and people and I think as we're getting older and more experienced in our careers,
• 53:41
  like we're just always growing like thicker skin. Oh, yeah. We stop caring. And I think it's such
• 53:47
  a good quality and it's kind of refreshing to know that as you're getting older, you're just
• 53:52
  starting to care less and less and less about what people think about you, how they perceive you
• 53:58
  and it's just like let them read that book, let them. One of the great, I think, synergies in between
• 54:05
  us is we both like really don't care what other people think. Which is kind of like why we're
• 54:10
  putting this out. Like I feel it was crazy me like most people wouldn't do a podcast for the number
• 54:16
  one reason what will people think. Right. And can you imagine being bound by that in your life?
• 54:22
  I was definitely in a place at one point where I did care about what other people thought about me.
• 54:28
  Like I think that was back in the day when I had chicken soup chick. Oh, that was your old
• 54:32
  Instagram. That was my old Instagram and I don't know what happened to it, but I had a lot of
• 54:35
  followers on it back in the day. Chicken soup chick. And I was just always trying so hard to like just
• 54:41
  always look my best and be this image that deep down I'm not. And now I'm at the point where I'm
• 54:47
  just like whatever bro. There's something funny. My friend told me the other day. He's like you
• 54:52
  know a few people came over to me and they think you're a total douche. To you? No, like they went
• 54:58
  to my friend. Like they don't know me. They just see me on social media and they just think like
• 55:03
  I'm a complete D bag. No, you're a nerd. No, I'm like he's like he told them he's like what are you
• 55:08
  talking about? He's like the nicest guy in the world. What are you talking about? Yeah, but
• 55:12
  that's so funny to me that really people perceive not that I care at all. I found it hilarious.
• 55:17
  I think I just could you clearly don't see on Instagram. Obviously that's not real life.
• 55:22
  Oh, some people think Instagram is real life. Yes, anyways. Anyways, it's been a pleasure.
• 55:29
  Oh, this was a great thank you for having me. I wish you much success. Well, don't worry. I'll see you
• 55:33
  at home soon. So it's been a pleasure. I wish you a lot of success in this podcast. Thank you. So
• 55:39
  this is just our little intro and I just wanted to give everybody a little time. Why don't you give
• 55:44
  some people a little preview of what maybe they would have to look forward to in future episodes?
• 55:50
  I think future episodes we're going to have people from the community from different career paths
• 55:57
  whether they're a comedian, an influencer, a lawyer, maybe a doctor. How about a mommy?
• 56:04
  A mommy? Is that I guess it's a career? Yeah. Who's going to be who's going to be on the sets of
• 56:10
  mommy? Your sister. My sister. Okay. She's a mommy. She is a mommy. But I want to dive into people's
• 56:18
  personalities not for what they do, but for who they actually are. And there's so many podcasts
• 56:25
  where people just talk about real estate, talk about law. And at one, I don't want that. I want
• 56:30
  who they are as a person at home and just want to learn about other people and myself and
• 56:36
  have some fun. And that's it. And yeah, that's a wrap. Great job. So I guess I will
• 56:43
  be a great host. Am I? You're born for this. Was I? I'm a star. Yes, you are.