Latest / The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network / Huddle Up | Looking Ahead to Offseason, Free Agency & Season Standouts

Transcript

Huddle Up | Looking Ahead to Offseason, Free Agency & Season Standouts · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

0:00
Speaker 1: Welcome to Huddle Up, brought to you by the Field
0:04
Speaker 1: Shuttle Group, Jaguar Senior writer John Osher, NFL Network analyst
0:09
Speaker 1: and former Jaguar Bucky Brooks, and senior reporter J. P.
0:13
Speaker 1: Shaddrick bring you the latest on your Jacksonville Jaguars.
0:17
Speaker 2: Huddle Up starts right now. Welcome in.
0:20
Speaker 3: It is Huddle Up with Bucky Brooks and we are
0:24
Speaker 3: headed to the off season. We've got a busy show ahead,
0:27
Speaker 3: wildcard review, Gladstone and Cohen reaction. Those two spoke at
0:31
Speaker 3: the media today and we're looking ahead to the off season.
0:35
Speaker 3: JP Shadrick, John Oser from the Hyundai Studios. Bucky Brooks
0:39
Speaker 3: is in Los Angeles.
0:40
Speaker 2: Hockey.
0:41
Speaker 3: Huddle Up with Bucky Brooks brought to you by Field's
0:43
Speaker 3: Auto Group, Jacksonville. See Fields First, Jacksonville's premiere luxury auto Group.
0:47
Speaker 2: Go to Fieldsauto dot Com.
0:50
Speaker 3: Well, here we are. Season ends. It's never easy. It's
0:54
Speaker 3: always abrupt. The Jaggs go from leading with four minutes
0:58
Speaker 3: to go in the fourth quarter. So two days later,
1:01
Speaker 3: in can kun, Bucky, how are you?
1:04
Speaker 4: I've been better?
1:05
Speaker 5: I'm still kind of reeling from the abrupt ending. As
1:09
Speaker 5: you said of that loss.
1:11
Speaker 4: It was a game which is it's weird because.
1:14
Speaker 5: When I sat on the bench at the end of
1:16
Speaker 5: the game, you just come to the realization how hard
1:20
Speaker 5: it is to eventually win a Lombardi Trophy. Like at
1:25
Speaker 5: the end of that game, I was just sitting there
1:27
Speaker 5: thinking like, Man, if we won, we would have to.
1:29
Speaker 4: Play two more of these right to get to the
1:33
Speaker 4: Super Bowl. And I just think it's.
1:35
Speaker 5: A great lesson for the players in those things, because
1:38
Speaker 5: I think you have to get into the tournament to
1:40
Speaker 5: understand ultimately how to win the tournament, and the exhaustion
1:44
Speaker 5: that you have mentally and physically only ratches up as
1:48
Speaker 5: you advanced. And this is a game where the Jaguars
1:51
Speaker 5: played well enough to win, but they just didn't win.
1:55
Speaker 4: And sometimes that happens when you play in the playoffs.
1:57
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean you think, But it's funny, Buck, I
2:02
Speaker 6: thought this the exact same thing. You sort of reflect
2:06
Speaker 6: and all those games you sort of watch as a
2:09
Speaker 6: non you know, as a non connected person, to playoff games,
2:13
Speaker 6: Oh what a great game, and then when you're in
2:16
Speaker 6: it and on the wrong side of it. I'm sure
2:17
Speaker 6: a lot of players felt this too, of you know, oh,
2:22
Speaker 6: we're the ones not moving on like, this isn't fun.
2:25
Speaker 6: And I'm not making light of it, but I thought
2:30
Speaker 6: the exact same thing that you did. Boy, you know,
2:34
Speaker 6: yes you're good, Yes the foundation is there, but getting
2:39
Speaker 6: to that point and being healthy at that point and
2:42
Speaker 6: looking at and saying, hey, we got a lot of strengths,
2:44
Speaker 6: we're not you know, there's no reason we can't go
2:47
Speaker 6: win this. It's hard to get back, you know, and
2:52
Speaker 6: people know I covered the Colts for ten years and
2:53
Speaker 6: they had seasons where you know, you're it can take
2:57
Speaker 6: two or three or four times getting there before you
3:01
Speaker 6: get over that hump and the lift and the marathon
3:05
Speaker 6: nature of it. I think there's a lot of people
3:08
Speaker 6: in the building going through that, not that they didn't
3:11
Speaker 6: know it, but I think what Bucky said was probably
3:14
Speaker 6: the best way of putting it. You can know it
3:16
Speaker 6: logically and understand how it might feel, but the punch,
3:23
Speaker 6: when you feel it, it's you can't know it until
3:28
Speaker 6: you feel it.
3:28
Speaker 4: Right.
3:28
Speaker 5: But yeah, and I would say that might have been
3:31
Speaker 5: the difference in this game. So think about the Buffalo Bills.
3:34
Speaker 5: I think the Bill is on the heels of seventh
3:35
Speaker 5: straight playoff appearances. That's a lot of playoff games to
3:41
Speaker 5: play in, and Sean McDermott is coaching a lot of
3:44
Speaker 5: those playoff games. And as much as we talk about
3:47
Speaker 5: winning the playoff game, really it is.
3:49
Speaker 4: How do you avoid losing those games?
3:52
Speaker 5: What are the things that you need to do to
3:54
Speaker 5: put your best yourself in the best position to win
3:57
Speaker 5: by avoiding the self inflicted mistakes. And not that we
4:00
Speaker 5: had a bunch, but we certainly had more than we've
4:02
Speaker 5: had doing that run at the end of the regular season,
4:06
Speaker 5: and a lot of times is understanding how to manage
4:09
Speaker 5: the emotions, the pressure of the moment, all the different
4:13
Speaker 5: circumstances of a playoff environment. It's just completely different. And
4:18
Speaker 5: I know John and JPU guys are in the stadium,
4:21
Speaker 5: you can feel it. But at field level, playoff games
4:25
Speaker 5: are drastically different than the regular season and it takes
4:30
Speaker 5: a while for you as a look just as an analyst,
4:33
Speaker 5: as a player, as a coach to get comfortable in
4:36
Speaker 5: that uncomfortable environment. Because I can tell you people always
4:40
Speaker 5: talk about in the playoffs, don't look at the clock,
4:42
Speaker 5: don't scoreboard, watch or whatever. But when you're in the
4:45
Speaker 5: second half and you start looking up and it's five
4:48
Speaker 5: minutes left in the third quarter and this is what
4:49
Speaker 5: the score is is, Oh when the fourth quarters ten
4:52
Speaker 5: minutes left, Oh, we just scored.
4:53
Speaker 4: It's four minutes.
4:54
Speaker 5: We're four minutes away from going All of those things
4:58
Speaker 5: that we can talk about a I said, story and
5:00
Speaker 5: it don't look at the school board, don't worry about
5:02
Speaker 5: the results. It's really hard to manage the moment and
5:06
Speaker 5: to stay kind of like where your feet are, as
5:08
Speaker 5: Liam always.
5:09
Speaker 6: Talks about, and that said JP, all that stuff being true,
5:14
Speaker 6: all the inexperience in it. They came back and took
5:19
Speaker 6: the lead in the playoffs twice in the fourth quarter.
5:22
Speaker 6: So while we're saying all this and it's true, they
5:26
Speaker 6: did sort of get it done and then the Bills
5:29
Speaker 6: got it done again, Like so that was a classic.
5:33
Speaker 7: I mean, it just doesn't feel like classic.
5:36
Speaker 3: The thirty three million people who watched on CBS, which
5:39
Speaker 3: was a record for that time slot, probably loved it
5:41
Speaker 3: for or fourth quarter lead changes. But it's different when
5:43
Speaker 3: you're in it and dealing with it.
5:46
Speaker 6: All the stuff we're saying is right, and at the
5:48
Speaker 6: same time, I thought they did for a team that
5:52
Speaker 6: hadn't been there.
5:54
Speaker 7: You know, they handled.
5:55
Speaker 8: It, you know, offensive, offensive, and yeah, and defensively, sometimes I.
6:06
Speaker 5: Think it was a teller two ass because the first
6:08
Speaker 5: half the offense couldn't get it figured out because they
6:10
Speaker 5: were having a tough time dealing with what Buffalo was doing.
6:14
Speaker 5: And I would say some of the experience, particularly Sean McDermott,
6:17
Speaker 5: he had the offense confused and flustered a little bit
6:20
Speaker 5: being on the sideline watching the guys go back to
6:23
Speaker 5: the surface to try and figure out what they were doing,
6:25
Speaker 5: because they changed the picture a lot, showed one thing
6:29
Speaker 5: flipped to something else, went from man looks to soft zones,
6:33
Speaker 5: and they really tested the discipline and patients of Trevor early.
6:37
Speaker 5: Also they tested communication of the offensive line and those things.
6:41
Speaker 4: And then defensively, I think what we saw.
6:44
Speaker 5: In one of the overarching takeaways that I have from
6:47
Speaker 5: this and I continue to watch it. In the tournament,
6:50
Speaker 5: the only way you're gonna win the playoffs you better
6:53
Speaker 5: have a superstar quarterback or you better have a superstar coach.
6:57
Speaker 5: And really you need to have both because every team
7:00
Speaker 5: that I saw that was winning, the quarterback played at
7:02
Speaker 5: a superstar level when they needed him to play. And
7:05
Speaker 5: I'm not saying that Trevor didn't do that. But I
7:07
Speaker 5: do know it watching Josh Allen and the heroics that
7:10
Speaker 5: they pulled off with maybe a lesser team, you better
7:14
Speaker 5: have an A plus quarterback.
7:15
Speaker 4: And if you don't have that, you better have.
7:17
Speaker 5: A brilliant mind on offense and defense on the staff
7:21
Speaker 5: to be able to mask for it, because that's the
7:23
Speaker 5: only way you're doing it. If you don't have those elements,
7:26
Speaker 5: you don't have a chance in this league.
7:27
Speaker 3: I mean, look at what Josh Allen did. He doesn't
7:29
Speaker 3: have receivers. They lost another one. I mean, he's just
7:32
Speaker 3: been doing it all year.
7:34
Speaker 4: Anny Davis, Santario Shapers both popped the aco.
7:36
Speaker 2: And they're still doing it. He's still finding a way
7:40
Speaker 2: to get a dumb.
7:41
Speaker 7: I do think.
7:42
Speaker 6: And after a loss, any lost, maybe playoff, last VP,
7:45
Speaker 6: you know, everybody's gonna get criticized or and he's gonna
7:48
Speaker 6: get be biged apart. And you know, you know, now
7:51
Speaker 6: the Trevor non believers are backout saying, well, he didn't
7:54
Speaker 6: do this, he didn't do this, And I get that
7:59
Speaker 6: there were moments where he didn't look like he had
8:02
Speaker 6: looked in the.
8:03
Speaker 7: Last eight games.
8:04
Speaker 6: But I'll tell what I care about is the fact
8:08
Speaker 6: that whatever had happened in the first two and a
8:11
Speaker 6: half quarters, whether you thought he'd played well or not.
8:15
Speaker 7: In the last two and a half quarters.
8:17
Speaker 6: Two drives when you bring them all the way back
8:20
Speaker 6: and get it done getting the end zone, however you do.
8:23
Speaker 7: And I get that you threw the pick with a
8:24
Speaker 7: minute and a half, but.
8:27
Speaker 6: I will go through the off season believing if the
8:30
Speaker 6: Bills score with two twenty left, if Cooks takes it in,
8:37
Speaker 6: and they can run their offense with two twenty left
8:41
Speaker 6: and timeouts minimum, they're kicking a field like a minute,
8:46
Speaker 6: vive is different than two twenty with timeouts, And again
8:50
Speaker 6: there was time to get it done. Don't get me wrong,
8:52
Speaker 6: you know, but if they're running their offense late, I
8:58
Speaker 6: just I would have.
8:59
Speaker 7: Been the same way.
9:00
Speaker 6: I would have sort of been stunned if the Bills
9:02
Speaker 6: hadn't scored to go ahead. The way Josh Allen was playing,
9:05
Speaker 6: I sort of felt the same way about the Jaguars offense.
9:08
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that's something to belne And I was
9:11
Speaker 5: listening to Josh Allen the week leading up to the game,
9:14
Speaker 5: and he talked about the reflection that he had from
9:17
Speaker 5: the year and how he realized that hey Man I
9:20
Speaker 5: just need to do the simple things better. I need
9:22
Speaker 5: to take the short stuff, I need to take the
9:24
Speaker 5: check down. I just need to make sure that we
9:27
Speaker 5: are always on schedule. And in this game, it's the
9:30
Speaker 5: first time in a long time that I saw him
9:32
Speaker 5: play what I would call a very conservative.
9:35
Speaker 4: Brand of ball, a boring brand of ball.
9:38
Speaker 5: That allowed him to play at a superstar level, because
9:41
Speaker 5: when we blessed him, the ball came out quick, short,
9:44
Speaker 5: when we were doing different things, he took the check down.
9:46
Speaker 4: He stayed within the framework of the offense.
9:49
Speaker 5: And that is something that with him, you've always tested
9:53
Speaker 5: that because he's never really wanted to be the most
9:55
Speaker 5: patient when it came to it. But look, Tip, you
9:59
Speaker 5: had to him. It was a great game he played
10:01
Speaker 5: Will they played Will. It's just one of those games
10:04
Speaker 5: where someone had to lose and we were just on
10:05
Speaker 5: the short.
10:06
Speaker 4: End the stick.
10:06
Speaker 7: Sometimes Hall of Famer's Beachy Jacob.
10:08
Speaker 2: It happens from time to time.
10:10
Speaker 3: Why they have gold jackets or he will at some
10:13
Speaker 3: point the way he's playing. If you want customized Jaggs
10:16
Speaker 3: furniture for your home, check out zipchare dot Com and
10:19
Speaker 3: brows all customized will option zip Chair furniture for fans.
10:23
Speaker 3: We'll return with a review of James Gladstone and Liam
10:27
Speaker 3: Cohen's meeting with the media today. The beginning of the
10:31
Speaker 3: off season is here. It's Huddle Up with Bucky Brooks.
10:38
Speaker 9: The fact that the timeline of just the scouting cycle
10:41
Speaker 9: remaining consistent up to this point, I'm in a very
10:45
Speaker 9: similar place that I was this time last year with
10:48
Speaker 9: the draft, with pro free agency. The piece that is
10:53
Speaker 9: obviously sped up is now the understanding of our current
10:55
Speaker 9: roster and not being forced to sort of dive into
10:59
Speaker 9: that with very little nuances and depth to it. So
11:03
Speaker 9: I think that's a really helpful piece in order to
11:05
Speaker 9: make some decisions now. Procedurally, we incorporated new functions and
11:12
Speaker 9: mechanisms that our scouting staff and our coaching staff didn't
11:15
Speaker 9: necessarily have experience with in the past. So obviously those
11:19
Speaker 9: will be new wrinkles that will work in and looking
11:23
Speaker 9: forward to seeing those unfold in real time.
11:26
Speaker 3: James Gladstone, thirty five year old general manager of the
11:29
Speaker 3: Jacksonville Jaguars, and welcome back. It's Huddle Up with Bucky Brooks,
11:32
Speaker 3: Shape Shadwick, John Ozer, and Jacksonville from the Hundai Studios
11:36
Speaker 3: Bucky Brooks out in Los Angeles. Yes, it is James
11:39
Speaker 3: Gladstone season now and a bunch of draft picks, none
11:43
Speaker 3: in the first round. We'll see what happens in free agency.
11:46
Speaker 3: Of course, first mid March, there's some pending free agents
11:50
Speaker 3: that you got to figure out what you're going to
11:52
Speaker 3: do with or not do with, and then or try
11:54
Speaker 3: to make a deal with some or not or none,
11:57
Speaker 3: and then get the free agency and then it's onto the.
12:00
Speaker 2: Draft from there.
12:01
Speaker 3: And hey, this is his first He was talking there about, Hey,
12:05
Speaker 3: it's the first time that he's been established and understands
12:10
Speaker 3: the roster, not having to learn the roster going into
12:12
Speaker 3: the process.
12:13
Speaker 2: The routine of scouting and.
12:16
Speaker 3: Everything is the same, but now he has the advantage
12:19
Speaker 3: of really knowing this roster backward and forward.
12:22
Speaker 4: Yeah.
12:22
Speaker 6: Look, but to me, it's and you're the scout. I mean,
12:26
Speaker 6: I have no scouting experience and you're the scout. But
12:29
Speaker 6: it seems like, you know, there's being knowing a language,
12:34
Speaker 6: and whereas last year he sort of had had to
12:39
Speaker 6: cram for the test in two weeks before free agency.
12:42
Speaker 6: And I would think there's a huge difference in just
12:45
Speaker 6: countless times coming off the practice field this year.
12:48
Speaker 7: I'm sure. I'm sure him and Liams said, hey, what
12:49
Speaker 7: do you think of you know this corner? How does
12:52
Speaker 7: this fit?
12:53
Speaker 6: Wait, there's no guess work involved with the roster this offseas.
12:59
Speaker 5: Now, no guests were because it's different looking at a
13:01
Speaker 5: team on film compared to coaching them and being around
13:05
Speaker 5: them daily. You understand the strengths and weeks of strengths
13:08
Speaker 5: and weaknesses of each player. You understand how they fit
13:11
Speaker 5: into the team puzzle, and you also have a point
13:14
Speaker 5: of reference when you're comparing the new guys potentially whether
13:17
Speaker 5: it's the draft or free agents, to what we have
13:20
Speaker 5: on the roster that compare contrast process now becomes more
13:25
Speaker 5: vivid because you know exactly what you're dealing with, and
13:28
Speaker 5: you also know what kind of holes that you must
13:31
Speaker 5: feel and what kind of people work in this environment,
13:36
Speaker 5: because I think all of that is needed. Now that
13:38
Speaker 5: you have the team and you are part of the team,
13:40
Speaker 5: you understand the inner workings and a team and that
13:42
Speaker 5: allows you to make better decisions.
13:44
Speaker 6: I think you know one area that I think they
13:47
Speaker 6: figured out on the fly. And again, it was interesting
13:49
Speaker 6: to hear James to Day talk about how he had
13:52
Speaker 6: said it. I think late in training camp. How you know,
13:55
Speaker 6: you build the team in the offseason, but the great
13:57
Speaker 6: teams continue to build during the sea And I think
14:01
Speaker 6: he was talking about Adam Jacoby, but also figuring out
14:05
Speaker 6: this roster.
14:05
Speaker 7: We talk so much about the receiver position.
14:07
Speaker 6: Was it was a little different in January than it
14:11
Speaker 6: wasn't set down, But I think now I think this
14:16
Speaker 6: team knows, Hey, for Trevor, we have to have precise
14:21
Speaker 6: route runners and when he reliable because he improves so
14:25
Speaker 6: much when he trusted everything around him. And I think
14:28
Speaker 6: for things like that, now you know exactly, Hey we
14:32
Speaker 6: need a running back who runs this style of offense.
14:36
Speaker 6: I think you can go get that all these positions
14:39
Speaker 6: talking about if you know specifics, maybe you don't need
14:42
Speaker 6: a first round pick to go get him.
14:44
Speaker 7: Hey we need.
14:45
Speaker 6: This trait at wide receiver. We can find that in
14:48
Speaker 6: round three. And I think that is it is where
14:51
Speaker 6: it'll help. It doesn't have to be one size fits all.
14:55
Speaker 5: Yeah, No, I think that is really really true. It
14:58
Speaker 5: is a great point when you talk talk about just
15:01
Speaker 5: being around and understanding. I think also people have to
15:03
Speaker 5: understand when you talked about the scouting system and scouts.
15:08
Speaker 5: You know, before he probably joined in midway in the
15:10
Speaker 5: process and they operated using whatever trem Balkey had established,
15:15
Speaker 5: grading system all that other stuff, because it's too late
15:18
Speaker 5: in the game to kind of change up those things.
15:21
Speaker 5: So now this offseason, well last off season, they were
15:24
Speaker 5: able to teach the scouts a new way of evaluating,
15:27
Speaker 5: a new way.
15:27
Speaker 4: Of grading in those things.
15:29
Speaker 5: And so this will be the first entire cycle where
15:32
Speaker 5: everyone is speaking the same language, and so you understand
15:36
Speaker 5: the verbiage and how people are discussing and describing players
15:39
Speaker 5: within the framework of how the Jaguars now grade and operate,
15:43
Speaker 5: and that will make a difference, particularly when it comes
15:46
Speaker 5: to the draft and free agency. Everyone has now learned
15:49
Speaker 5: a new foreign language and we all are fluent in it.
15:52
Speaker 4: So to make it easy.
15:53
Speaker 6: Does that become easier, Bucky? Or does it also yield
15:56
Speaker 6: better results?
15:58
Speaker 4: I think we come dependiently.
16:00
Speaker 5: Yields better results, you know, it yields better results because
16:03
Speaker 5: now everyone is viewing the game and players through the
16:08
Speaker 5: same set of eyes. We may have different opinions, but
16:11
Speaker 5: we understand what core characteristics we're looking for, what position,
16:15
Speaker 5: pacific straits, pacific straight traits we want from each player,
16:20
Speaker 5: And then we also understand how to banter back and
16:23
Speaker 5: forth when we have to make these difficult decisions or
16:26
Speaker 5: we have debates over how guys are graded and where
16:29
Speaker 5: they should be placed on the board.
16:30
Speaker 3: Let's start with the number one priority, the pending free
16:34
Speaker 3: agents for the Jaguars. The number of players are out
16:38
Speaker 3: the door if nothing gets done, including that list on
16:41
Speaker 3: your screen, Bucky, any of those guys that have to
16:45
Speaker 3: come back, that need to come back for this team
16:49
Speaker 3: or are they all going free?
16:53
Speaker 4: Are there any must have?
16:55
Speaker 5: If I have to use two goal stars to bring
16:58
Speaker 5: two people back, I would put a gold star on
17:01
Speaker 5: Travis Etn and I would put a gold star on
17:05
Speaker 5: Andrew Winger. The reason Travis is because he's been so
17:08
Speaker 5: good in this offense. We know exactly what it looks
17:11
Speaker 5: like him as RB one within this offense. Man, he
17:14
Speaker 5: is dynamite, and there's still so much more that he
17:17
Speaker 5: can do as the league runner in this offense.
17:20
Speaker 4: And then the reason Dewey continues to be.
17:24
Speaker 5: Someone that I would want around is man he is
17:26
Speaker 5: so good just as a communicator. And I know people
17:29
Speaker 5: have talking about the talent or lack of talent in
17:31
Speaker 5: those things, but there's something to have in a glue.
17:34
Speaker 4: Guy in the back end.
17:35
Speaker 5: And even though Antonio Johnson but tremendous growth this year,
17:41
Speaker 5: there's still something about having the trusted vet in the
17:44
Speaker 5: rotation that allows everything to operate smoothly in the back end.
17:48
Speaker 5: To me, I don't think he would cost a lot,
17:51
Speaker 5: but I think his value is tremendous in terms of
17:54
Speaker 5: what he brings to the team into the secondary.
17:56
Speaker 2: Bucky travis Et might cost a lot. What are you
17:59
Speaker 2: willing to pay a.
18:01
Speaker 5: I mean, look, I'm willing to pay him going right,
18:04
Speaker 5: even if we had the franchise him for another year.
18:06
Speaker 7: He's got the gold Star.
18:07
Speaker 2: The gold Star is fourteen million for the franchise tag.
18:11
Speaker 4: I mean it's a year.
18:12
Speaker 5: I mean, he is really really good in terms of
18:14
Speaker 5: what he was able to do for this offense. I think, uh,
18:18
Speaker 5: sometimes we can get cute with the running back and
18:20
Speaker 5: think that we can find guys. But we just saw
18:23
Speaker 5: what he does in this offense, and we saw the
18:25
Speaker 5: explosive plays, and we saw when he touches the ball consistently,
18:29
Speaker 5: he delivers.
18:30
Speaker 4: And look, let the game.
18:32
Speaker 5: On Sunday show you like him catching the ball out
18:34
Speaker 5: the backfield and making things happen. Then running for it
18:37
Speaker 5: seemed like nine ten yards of clip when they had
18:39
Speaker 5: the balls and him and Touton, I like Tutin. I
18:42
Speaker 5: don't know if I'm quite ready to say, hey, I
18:44
Speaker 5: wont Touton and LeQuinn Allen to anchor the backfield. To me,
18:47
Speaker 5: there's still a little bit of a drop off just
18:50
Speaker 5: in terms of the experience and the expertise at the position.
18:53
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think sometimes you can get caught up in
18:56
Speaker 6: what players don't do, and uh, you know again, I'm
19:00
Speaker 6: not sure Travis is the power runner or maybe some
19:04
Speaker 6: things he doesn't do. But what he's special at and
19:10
Speaker 6: what you saw a few times this year was even
19:13
Speaker 6: the play the other day on the reception he caught
19:16
Speaker 6: for a touchdown, the vision and awareness to turn that
19:20
Speaker 6: into a touchdown rather than a seven yard game because
19:26
Speaker 6: there's there's no guarantee.
19:28
Speaker 7: You're going to score.
19:29
Speaker 6: If you don't score, I mean, hey, it was a
19:31
Speaker 6: big play at the four, no guarantee you're getting in there.
19:34
Speaker 6: And he had he had two or three or four
19:37
Speaker 6: runs like that this year San Francisco, remember, you know,
19:40
Speaker 6: big run and then his move during that was special,
19:44
Speaker 6: and he has that ability there to finish a big play.
19:51
Speaker 7: His vision special.
19:53
Speaker 6: I think there is some inside running that they want
19:56
Speaker 6: to get out of the running, out of the running
19:58
Speaker 6: back room that they really don't I'm not sure they
20:00
Speaker 6: have yet between the tackles. It would surprise me if
20:05
Speaker 6: they try to address that. But I'm not sure you
20:07
Speaker 6: have to address that at the expense of.
20:11
Speaker 7: Travis.
20:13
Speaker 4: And I'll say this, yeah, I'll say this.
20:15
Speaker 5: I don't know if Travis is gonna be valued at
20:17
Speaker 5: fourteen million by anybody outside of the organization. I don't
20:20
Speaker 5: know if around the league people will view him as
20:22
Speaker 5: a fourteen million dollars running back. I love him, I
20:25
Speaker 5: love what he brings, and I know they're being comparisons
20:27
Speaker 5: in terms of statistically the Christian McCaffrey.
20:29
Speaker 4: But I don't know if he's gonna carry that cachet.
20:32
Speaker 5: So it might be a situation where maybe he hits
20:35
Speaker 5: the market for a day or two, you kind of
20:37
Speaker 5: see where the marketplace is and then make a decision.
20:39
Speaker 5: I heard him in his last presconference talking about man,
20:43
Speaker 5: I like warm weather. It's hard for me to envision
20:45
Speaker 5: playing elsewhere now. Paychecks change everything, But I do.
20:50
Speaker 7: You can buy it.
20:52
Speaker 5: Yeah, I do believe being around him enough. If it's competitive,
20:58
Speaker 5: I think there's a way for him to come back.
21:00
Speaker 5: I'm not saying he's gonna give it like a hometown discount,
21:02
Speaker 5: but I do believe if it's a competitive offer, I
21:06
Speaker 5: think there's a lot for him to like in Jacksonville,
21:08
Speaker 5: playing with his old college teammate and some of the
21:11
Speaker 5: other things that have been established in the city.
21:12
Speaker 6: Yeah, there is a type of guy who you can
21:16
Speaker 6: envision just liking a place and feeling comfortable. And it's
21:21
Speaker 6: always it's only a hard concept to get to, but
21:24
Speaker 6: you can get I'm not sure this applies directly to Travis,
21:27
Speaker 6: but conceptually, you can get a four year deal and
21:34
Speaker 6: not finish that four year deal out if it's not
21:37
Speaker 6: a fit, or you can get a three year deal
21:41
Speaker 6: for X amount of it and finish it and have
21:43
Speaker 6: the career. Travis likes this here and again, money will talk.
21:50
Speaker 7: But I agree with Bucky. He is a guy.
21:54
Speaker 6: I don't believe in hometown discount, but he is a
21:57
Speaker 6: guy who could look at it and say, you know what,
21:59
Speaker 6: I'm gonna make this amount of money. This place understands
22:02
Speaker 6: what I am. And there's always a huge risk in
22:05
Speaker 6: free agency going to a place that doesn't understand what
22:10
Speaker 6: you are and after a year you've been there and
22:13
Speaker 6: they're like, oh, we didn't really know this was this
22:17
Speaker 6: I have buyer, you know, whereas this team knows Travis
22:21
Speaker 6: etn and he really endeared himself and that's right word,
22:26
Speaker 6: but earned the respect of everybody in this building, all
22:28
Speaker 6: the new people with how he approaches things. There's a
22:32
Speaker 6: good relationship there that you know. Again, money wasn't an issue.
22:36
Speaker 6: Travis would finish his career here and love it. I mean,
22:39
Speaker 6: but money talks.
22:41
Speaker 3: Remember started the training camp, we're thinking about tanking Bigsby,
22:44
Speaker 3: taking over his job.
22:45
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was the thing. And then he put his help.
22:47
Speaker 7: He wasn't sure about it.
22:48
Speaker 4: I didn't know.
22:48
Speaker 3: They were just going to let's see how it plays out.
22:50
Speaker 3: And he put his head down and just worked and
22:52
Speaker 3: didn't worry about the noise. And it's paid off for him.
22:56
Speaker 5: Yeah, he speaks characters. He speaks to his character. Yes,
23:00
Speaker 5: of all characters, terrific. You talk about all the people
23:02
Speaker 5: that are counting them out. It wasn't even tant Bixby
23:05
Speaker 5: was up. Sean Houton is gonna be the guy that's
23:07
Speaker 5: gonna end up even starting running back in he just
23:10
Speaker 5: kept going to work.
23:12
Speaker 4: And when you have someone who.
23:14
Speaker 5: Is willing to work like that, because that is uncommon
23:17
Speaker 5: for a first round or to kind of approach it
23:19
Speaker 5: like that, sometimes there's a level of entitlement that you
23:22
Speaker 5: may have as a first round pick.
23:23
Speaker 4: But he didn't exhibit any of those qualities. And then he.
23:26
Speaker 5: Played so well in this offense and the scheme and
23:29
Speaker 5: the way.
23:30
Speaker 4: That he fits.
23:31
Speaker 5: And I will say this, because running backs can age
23:34
Speaker 5: out quickly in this league. His game can age gracefully
23:39
Speaker 5: because he can catch the ball out the backfield. There
23:41
Speaker 5: are different things that you can do with him on
23:43
Speaker 5: the perimeter to preserve some of the contact and those things.
23:48
Speaker 5: There's a way to get him maybe the year ten
23:51
Speaker 5: as a player in a system that can showcase him
23:54
Speaker 5: in a few different ways.
23:55
Speaker 6: Yeah, and in a system. I mean all NFL systems
24:00
Speaker 6: value smart players, but this one really values smart players.
24:04
Speaker 6: And you know his understanding of how he fits and
24:09
Speaker 6: this year's showing a willingness to fit into what they
24:13
Speaker 6: wanted him to do. Be careful when you shake that
24:19
Speaker 6: guy's hand and tell him goodbye.
24:20
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a tough one. That would be a tough one.
24:23
Speaker 2: Let's come back at a moment.
24:24
Speaker 3: We've got to get to the defensive side of the ball,
24:26
Speaker 3: and one of the guys on that free agent list
24:28
Speaker 3: that didn't get a gold star from Bucky, we'll get
24:31
Speaker 3: some reasons why. It's Huddle Up with Buffy Brooks.
24:39
Speaker 9: The connection between him the coaching staff was real. He
24:43
Speaker 9: was being deployed in the right ways. He felt confident
24:46
Speaker 9: in the ways that he was doing it from both
24:47
Speaker 9: defense and special teams. Like you're talking about a guy
24:50
Speaker 9: that is playing at an all pro level on defense,
24:52
Speaker 9: but is running down on kickoff every time we score
24:56
Speaker 9: and make him plays for us. So extremely happy for
25:00
Speaker 9: Devin and his production this season and finding real footing
25:04
Speaker 9: in a way that aligned with what he knew he
25:06
Speaker 9: could be. Look forward to working through the offseason process
25:11
Speaker 9: with our coaching staff and everyone else to determine what's
25:14
Speaker 9: best for everybody and seeing if there's something to be done.
25:17
Speaker 3: James Gladstone, general manager today discussing linebacker Devin Lloyd and
25:21
Speaker 3: welcome back the full press conference by the way from
25:24
Speaker 3: Cohen and Gladstone at Jaguars dot Com and Jaguars YouTube.
25:27
Speaker 2: It's Huddle Up with Bucky Brooks.
25:30
Speaker 3: Presented by the Fields Auto Group and time for the
25:33
Speaker 3: defensive coverage of the game, brought to you by GEHA
25:35
Speaker 3: Government Employees Health Association Benefits for Federal employees and retirees.
25:40
Speaker 3: We take a look at the standouts against Buffalo. Yeah,
25:43
Speaker 3: they gave up some yardage in the game. Murray had
25:45
Speaker 3: seven tackles to lead the way. Devin Lloyd had six
25:49
Speaker 3: tackles in the game. Trayvon Walker at a quarterback hit,
25:53
Speaker 3: Josh Heinz Allen had a sack. The Jags defense had
25:56
Speaker 3: a tough fourth quarter, though they could get off the
25:58
Speaker 3: field against the Buffalo Bills and Josh Allen And that
26:03
Speaker 3: brings us back to the second person on this list,
26:06
Speaker 3: but he was also on the pending free agent list
26:09
Speaker 3: for the Jaguars. Linebacker Devin Lloyd's second team All Pro
26:13
Speaker 3: did not get a Bucky Brooks gold Star on the
26:17
Speaker 3: list to re sign.
26:19
Speaker 2: Why not?
26:21
Speaker 5: Well, I think, look, dude, you only have so much money,
26:24
Speaker 5: like the pie only has so many slices, and he's
26:26
Speaker 5: going to command a significant piece of the pie based
26:29
Speaker 5: on how he played and what the market is.
26:31
Speaker 4: Going to be out there for him.
26:32
Speaker 5: And if you're the Jaguars, you have to prioritize what's
26:35
Speaker 5: really important to the team in terms of the next step.
26:38
Speaker 5: And while he was a very valuable piece, made a
26:40
Speaker 5: ton of splash plays and was important as a linebacker
26:44
Speaker 5: in this defense, to me, there are other positions that
26:47
Speaker 5: you were prioritized over that position. And so when he
26:51
Speaker 5: goes and he has to market and people are gonna
26:53
Speaker 5: pay him a ton of money, I just don't know
26:56
Speaker 5: if you're going to get into bidding wa to retain
26:58
Speaker 5: his services when you know that there are other positions
27:02
Speaker 5: that are more important to the success of the team
27:05
Speaker 5: And that's not being disrespectful to him and the way
27:07
Speaker 5: that he played this season.
27:08
Speaker 7: Yeah, I couldn't agree more.
27:11
Speaker 6: It's hard to pay premium money for interceptions from a linebacker,
27:16
Speaker 6: and that's going to sway somebody to pay him, and
27:21
Speaker 6: I hope they pay him.
27:22
Speaker 7: I mean, JP, you know Devin Sure.
27:25
Speaker 6: I like the kid, and he made some big time plays.
27:28
Speaker 6: I'm not sure they're thirteen and four without them. I'm
27:31
Speaker 6: not sure they beat the Chiefs without him.
27:34
Speaker 7: But in trying to.
27:37
Speaker 6: Pull back and really make decisions unemotionally, I think it
27:43
Speaker 6: would be really hard to commit franchise core money to
27:50
Speaker 6: that position.
27:51
Speaker 7: For the reasons Bucky said, I think you got to
27:53
Speaker 7: get a corner.
27:54
Speaker 6: I mean, I think they will spend in free agency
27:56
Speaker 6: on defense, but I'm kind of sad that it probably
28:02
Speaker 6: won't be on Devin.
28:02
Speaker 2: Lod Yeah, so then what do you do there? Draft, draft,
28:07
Speaker 2: some money, draft or.
28:10
Speaker 6: Or.
28:11
Speaker 7: Bucky is the king of free agency as well. You know,
28:13
Speaker 7: you know GPS. He's not just a draft expert.
28:16
Speaker 2: He does it all.
28:17
Speaker 6: He's he's the king of the combine for a reason,
28:19
Speaker 6: because free agency has the combine too. A linebacker for
28:23
Speaker 6: what this scheme needs. Uh, they could sign a free
28:27
Speaker 6: agent linebacker, uh, for that sort of experience and what
28:32
Speaker 6: this defense needs in a linebacker. That won't be franchise
28:36
Speaker 6: level money, but that could help the defense as much
28:40
Speaker 6: as paying Devon.
28:43
Speaker 4: Yeah, there a few ways they can approach it.
28:45
Speaker 5: They can sign a free agent who is maybe a
28:48
Speaker 5: one year rental to help them get through.
28:50
Speaker 4: They could sign a free agent.
28:52
Speaker 5: Who's a one year rental, draft someone fairly high, have
28:55
Speaker 5: them learn behind either a rental guy or playing alongside
28:59
Speaker 5: for you, and hope that they're able to get up
29:01
Speaker 5: to speed. The one thing that you have to know
29:02
Speaker 5: about James Gladstone and look where they come from with
29:06
Speaker 5: the ramp Man. They are not afraid to play young
29:08
Speaker 5: players and to put them in the line up prominently.
29:10
Speaker 4: And do it.
29:11
Speaker 5: And John will understand this having worked and been around
29:15
Speaker 5: Bill Polli in a lot. Here's the thing when it
29:17
Speaker 5: comes to the defense, you have to make sure you
29:20
Speaker 5: have blue chip players at the marquee spots to premium spots.
29:23
Speaker 5: Those premium spots are two pass rushers, Trayvon and Josh
29:27
Speaker 5: Hanz Allen. You need to have a marquee cornerback. You
29:30
Speaker 5: need to now have a marquee safety somewhere in there.
29:34
Speaker 5: Maybe that is Antonio Johnson. And then you've got to
29:36
Speaker 5: have someone at that second level at linebacker that's a
29:39
Speaker 5: marquee player. Maybe that's Fourier, maybe it's a young player.
29:43
Speaker 5: But that's how it has to go.
29:45
Speaker 4: On defense.
29:45
Speaker 5: You have to have five guys who have blue chip
29:48
Speaker 5: caliber talent to be a championship contender. And so I
29:52
Speaker 5: think they're going to invest wisely in the position. I
29:54
Speaker 5: just don't think it's going to be Devin Lord running
29:57
Speaker 5: it back in Jacksonville.
29:58
Speaker 6: Yeah. Speak for Bill, but I think he would tell
30:02
Speaker 6: you that if if you've got the two pass rushers,
30:05
Speaker 6: it might be good.
30:06
Speaker 7: Those other three can.
30:10
Speaker 6: Be good and not necessarily good. But yes, you have
30:14
Speaker 6: to pick your spots. And uh, you know, just historically
30:18
Speaker 6: it's tough to pay linebackers who don't rush the passer
30:23
Speaker 6: premium premium money and have your structure of your salary
30:27
Speaker 6: cap work.
30:29
Speaker 7: That's sort of regardles. I mean, somebody will do it, but.
30:33
Speaker 6: I've I've not seen that breakaway from that philosophy work
30:39
Speaker 6: well that often, and.
30:41
Speaker 4: None only that.
30:41
Speaker 5: Let's be honest about how the team would be constructed.
30:44
Speaker 5: Trevor Lawrence is just about to get his money. So
30:46
Speaker 5: what you want to do is the biggest investment needs
30:49
Speaker 5: to have the toys around.
30:51
Speaker 4: Him to be at his best.
30:53
Speaker 5: And when you think about they just signed Jacobe Myers,
30:55
Speaker 5: Parker Washington, and Britton Stranger going to be on deck.
30:59
Speaker 4: You just gave cold Van Lannon some cash.
31:01
Speaker 5: I mean, they're going to commit money to the offense
31:05
Speaker 5: to make sure that Number sixteen continues to play at
31:08
Speaker 5: the level that he played the last half of the season.
31:10
Speaker 5: That means on defense, you're gonna go without or it's
31:14
Speaker 5: gonna be a draft and developed situation on that side
31:17
Speaker 5: of the ball.
31:18
Speaker 3: All right, guys, we'll come back in a moment and
31:20
Speaker 3: take a look at both coordinators offensive defensive coordinators. There
31:23
Speaker 3: are three coordinators. Two of them are getting interviews for
31:27
Speaker 3: head coaching spots, and we'll wrap it up. It is
31:29
Speaker 3: our final show. Jaguars Football is presented by Dailies. It's
31:33
Speaker 3: nicer here, and this is Huddle Up with Bucky Brooks.
31:41
Speaker 10: And that was the message to the team on Monday.
31:45
Speaker 10: Was extremely proud of a lot of the things that
31:48
Speaker 10: we were able to accomplish, very proud of their response
31:52
Speaker 10: to adversity into that one to no message in that
31:54
Speaker 10: next play mentality, and now that the real work is
31:58
Speaker 10: here to where we have to go in and reload it.
32:03
Speaker 10: We're not gonna just stand here and say, man, we're
32:05
Speaker 10: just gonna redo it all with all the same, same, same, same,
32:08
Speaker 10: Because I got a thirteen wins and knocked out of
32:10
Speaker 10: the playoffs in the first round, so clearly was not
32:14
Speaker 10: good enough for the full end of the season standard,
32:18
Speaker 10: But thirty one other teams were having a similar conversation.
32:22
Speaker 2: Liam Cohen earlier today.
32:24
Speaker 3: Welcome back. It's Hoddle Up with Bucky Brooks. Brought to
32:26
Speaker 3: you by Field's Auto Group Jacksonville ce Fields First, Jacksonville's
32:30
Speaker 3: premiere luxury Auto Group. Go to Fieldsauto dot Com, our
32:33
Speaker 3: final show before a small hiatus.
32:36
Speaker 2: Will be back two weeks after the Super Bowl.
32:39
Speaker 6: John O Sure, guests, I have a question for the
32:40
Speaker 6: coach coach Buck and I think the Jaguars coaches will
32:46
Speaker 6: be off. It sounded from what Liams said mid February, right, yeah,
32:51
Speaker 6: And I personally think it's a pretty good idea. I mean,
32:54
Speaker 6: it's and the devastating gut punt. I think, you know,
33:01
Speaker 6: in a few weeks to be back ready to go.
33:04
Speaker 7: But it's hard.
33:05
Speaker 6: I mean, it's it's even hard for us to do
33:08
Speaker 6: these shows and have sort of the same energy.
33:12
Speaker 7: So yeah, I mean, it's.
33:14
Speaker 6: A little longer than I've I've heard and been around.
33:17
Speaker 6: Not significant me. It's had a big deal, but I'm
33:20
Speaker 6: wondering if it's a good idea just get away and
33:22
Speaker 6: come back ready to go.
33:23
Speaker 7: Man.
33:24
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I love it.
33:25
Speaker 5: I think this is how the rams have operated, this
33:29
Speaker 5: is how some new age thinking programs operate.
33:34
Speaker 4: Where you want to be arrested.
33:35
Speaker 5: Man, there's no need to be in the office just
33:36
Speaker 5: for the sake of being in the office. Let people
33:39
Speaker 5: get away, recharge, reflect, reset, come back, refocus on being
33:44
Speaker 5: able to get it done next year. This is terrific
33:47
Speaker 5: because I think they're gonna be changes to the way
33:49
Speaker 5: today operate around the combine and those things. Yeah, there's
33:53
Speaker 5: plenty of time to worry about next year. This is
33:55
Speaker 5: a great time to have some vacation, to get away
33:57
Speaker 5: from it because you guys know, because you're around the building. Man,
34:00
Speaker 5: they put in some long hours over the course of
34:02
Speaker 5: the regular season, and at some point.
34:05
Speaker 4: You want to reward them for all their hard work
34:07
Speaker 4: during the regular season.
34:08
Speaker 7: The king of downtime go next point to me, I'm not.
34:14
Speaker 3: Gonna give it back to him. I'll tell you that
34:20
Speaker 3: take advantage. I mean, yeah's I'll take that as a conflicent. Actually,
34:24
Speaker 3: there are a couple of coordinators getting interviews. Grantedinsky speaking
34:29
Speaker 3: with the Cleveland Browns and there's reports that he's one
34:32
Speaker 3: of the favorites to get the gig now. And then
34:38
Speaker 3: Anthony Campinelli is gonna speak with the Miami Dolphins. Chances, Bucky,
34:44
Speaker 3: that either one of these guys are gone.
34:46
Speaker 5: No, I mean, I think the chances are real, particularly
34:49
Speaker 5: for Granted Disky, because everybody is fascinated with the offensive
34:54
Speaker 5: mind and the offensive coordinator. And you think about the
34:57
Speaker 5: tree that continues to grow, an extension up of the
35:00
Speaker 5: Vay Shanahan tree. What the work displayed in terms of
35:04
Speaker 5: his work with Trevor Lawrence, how this offense looked, and
35:07
Speaker 5: the reputation anyone that has been around Grant talks about
35:10
Speaker 5: the brilliant mind, the attention to detail, the innovation, the
35:15
Speaker 5: imagination that he brings to the thing.
35:18
Speaker 4: He's can get a lot of love.
35:19
Speaker 5: I would think that he's going to interview well, and
35:21
Speaker 5: if you can put an infrastructure around him that allows
35:25
Speaker 5: him to grow into the job. Yeah, I can see
35:28
Speaker 5: it being very enticing, not only for Cleveland, but for
35:31
Speaker 5: some of the other openings that are available around the league.
35:33
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's.
35:36
Speaker 6: I don't know if people outside the building necessarily understood
35:39
Speaker 6: how much he did with Trevor Lawrence and how much
35:42
Speaker 6: respect there is for him in the building. You know,
35:46
Speaker 6: conventional wisdom would say that at that age, maybe a
35:51
Speaker 6: year or two away. And I say conventional wisdom, I
35:54
Speaker 6: sort of sneer at it, because right now conventional wisdom
35:57
Speaker 6: on that front. You know, there were thoughts last year,
36:01
Speaker 6: is Liam quite ready? You know one year as a
36:04
Speaker 6: coordinator calling plays, Are you hiring him a year or
36:07
Speaker 6: two ahead. There's been talk like that about other coaches
36:11
Speaker 6: around the league at this point. I don't think the
36:14
Speaker 6: league's thinking that way anymore. I mean, it's look, we
36:18
Speaker 6: can go get grant you Dinsky. Last year the Jaguars,
36:21
Speaker 6: I think some of their thinking was, Okay, we could
36:24
Speaker 6: we wait a year, but we're not gonna be hiring
36:26
Speaker 6: an a year and then all of a sudden we let
36:27
Speaker 6: this guy go that we our gut feeling around the
36:30
Speaker 6: organization last year is Liam's the guy. It would not
36:34
Speaker 6: surprise me if somebody gets granted a room, an owner,
36:38
Speaker 6: GM whoever's hiring, looks at each other and goes, boy,
36:40
Speaker 6: this is the guy. You know, we think he's the guy,
36:45
Speaker 6: and we wait, he's gone next year, We're not hiring
36:48
Speaker 6: anyway a chance to see it. So that whole thing
36:51
Speaker 6: of too young whatever, you know. I think he's gonna
36:55
Speaker 6: be a great head coach when he gets a chalk.
36:57
Speaker 6: I mean, he gets a chance. And when prize me
37:00
Speaker 6: the chance came this year, it's gonna come in the
37:03
Speaker 6: next twelve months. I mean, it's not this cycle. It's
37:05
Speaker 6: gonna be next one, in my opinion.
37:08
Speaker 5: I mean, just look at all the guys that have
37:09
Speaker 5: come from there that have been young. I mean, Sean McVay,
37:13
Speaker 5: I mean, Kyle Shannon was fairly young when he got
37:15
Speaker 5: to get it.
37:15
Speaker 4: Kyle Shanahan and Sean McVay.
37:17
Speaker 5: You're thinking about Lafleur Liam like, it's just part of
37:22
Speaker 5: the deal. These young, dynamic guys who can get opportunities
37:25
Speaker 5: and so granted is thirty.
37:26
Speaker 4: Think about Clint.
37:27
Speaker 5: Kubiak and the opportunities he has in front of him
37:30
Speaker 5: as a young coach. That's just the way it goes
37:32
Speaker 5: for the offensive guys because it has been talked about
37:35
Speaker 5: so much on TV.
37:36
Speaker 4: You need to get an offensive guy because that ensures
37:38
Speaker 4: that your quarterback has stability.
37:40
Speaker 5: YadA, YadA, YadA YadA. So all the offensive guys go.
37:44
Speaker 5: And so you're plucking from these really really young guys
37:47
Speaker 5: who've just been put in these prominent roles, maybe too
37:52
Speaker 5: soon or too early in their career, but guys are
37:54
Speaker 5: gonna bet on them to kind of make it happen.
37:57
Speaker 3: And if there's a place that needs quarterbacks stability, Cleveland
38:00
Speaker 3: right now.
38:01
Speaker 6: But go ahead, Well you can say, you can say
38:04
Speaker 6: too young, too soon, whatever. But you know, if you
38:08
Speaker 6: look at I haven't done the math on this because
38:11
Speaker 6: doing math takes a lot of work, but it it
38:14
Speaker 6: over the less ten years coaches fail succeed. You hire
38:20
Speaker 6: a forty eight year old coach, he's going to fail
38:21
Speaker 6: to succeed at a rate. So if I'm an owner
38:25
Speaker 6: a GM and I've looked around and seen these young guys,
38:29
Speaker 6: I used to joke a couple of years ago that
38:31
Speaker 6: if you if you didn't have a certain kind of
38:32
Speaker 6: haircut and a goatee and look like McVeigh, if you
38:35
Speaker 6: were going to get a job.
38:37
Speaker 7: But are you.
38:40
Speaker 6: Just taking that out of the equation if you're an
38:42
Speaker 6: owner or in your GM says well, we're a little
38:44
Speaker 6: concerned about this not working. The owner's going, well, I'm
38:49
Speaker 6: I'm hiring a new coach. Clearly what it was doing
38:52
Speaker 6: wasn't working anyway. So if you think this guy is
38:57
Speaker 6: the guy, I kind of get the thinking.
39:00
Speaker 7: So I.
39:02
Speaker 6: Again very quickly when you talk about Camp, So yeah,
39:05
Speaker 6: sort of the same deal. I'd be stunned, Bucky if
39:08
Speaker 6: Camp's not a coordinator this time next year. Coach, I'm sorry,
39:14
Speaker 6: head coach, He's already coordinator and a good one. I
39:18
Speaker 6: think he gets a job in the next either this
39:20
Speaker 6: cycle or next cycle wouldn't surprise me.
39:22
Speaker 4: This cycle, Man, he is terrific.
39:25
Speaker 5: I wish I could really fully disclose all the things
39:27
Speaker 5: that I hear them do at halftime and the adjustments
39:32
Speaker 5: and how adaptable he is and on.
39:35
Speaker 4: The fly he's feisty, he's fiery. But it does a
39:37
Speaker 4: great job of connecting.
39:39
Speaker 5: And I think what I've learned from watching this staff
39:42
Speaker 5: is the importance of communication and connectivity.
39:45
Speaker 4: Great communicators up and down the board.
39:47
Speaker 5: They communicate with everyone in the building outside the building.
39:51
Speaker 5: They do a great job of making sure that the
39:54
Speaker 5: team and their units are tight and it's look, Man
39:58
Speaker 5: has been remarkable to the growth from the first preseason
40:03
Speaker 5: game to the way this team finished in terms of
40:06
Speaker 5: just watching the on field product lay by the direction
40:09
Speaker 5: of two coordinators. Man, they both deserve standing innovations for
40:13
Speaker 5: their work and how far they were able to progress
40:15
Speaker 5: the team in a short amount of time.
40:18
Speaker 6: JP and Bucky Remember the Steelers opener, Oh and everybody
40:24
Speaker 6: like there was the issue where I guess a couple
40:27
Speaker 6: of players were slightly slow getting lined up and the
40:30
Speaker 6: fans were going blistic.
40:33
Speaker 7: Oh my goodness.
40:34
Speaker 6: You know it was just the preseason, but I mean
40:40
Speaker 6: I just kind of thought about that as you were talking.
40:44
Speaker 6: JP probably knows where I'm going with this. Give me
40:47
Speaker 6: a head coach, asked me if he knows scheme or
40:50
Speaker 6: can connect to players, and give me the guy who
40:53
Speaker 6: can connect to players. Anytimes, you can hire a guy
40:56
Speaker 6: who knows scheme for you can't be really knows scheme,
41:00
Speaker 6: but his ability to connect with people is why I
41:04
Speaker 6: believe just like Liam, I mean, I think he'll be
41:08
Speaker 6: a high end head coach and that.
41:11
Speaker 7: Will be his gold star.
41:12
Speaker 6: To use our phrase, he can connect with players. Players
41:16
Speaker 6: love playing for this guy in the right way. He's
41:19
Speaker 6: not necessarily a player's coach, but you can connect, and
41:24
Speaker 6: camp can connect.
41:25
Speaker 7: Boy, he can rely connected.
41:26
Speaker 3: He connected so much the work shirts with his face
41:28
Speaker 3: on it, right, Yeah, I mean, look.
41:31
Speaker 4: I'm gonna say this.
41:33
Speaker 5: It was about mid season, maybe a conversation I was
41:35
Speaker 5: having Jordan Lewis and.
41:39
Speaker 4: John knows this.
41:39
Speaker 5: JPU also know it is rare for pro athletes to
41:43
Speaker 5: talk about playing for their coach, right, that is almost
41:46
Speaker 5: something that is high school like collegiate. Maybe if you
41:50
Speaker 5: have the right coach but definitely not in the pro game,
41:54
Speaker 5: not that you're talking about. Like, man, I just don't
41:55
Speaker 5: want to disappoint him. He's such a good man. I
41:58
Speaker 5: just want to make sure that whatever he pours into
42:01
Speaker 5: us and I want to give that back.
42:02
Speaker 4: That connectivity is at your youth and high school level.
42:06
Speaker 5: That speaks to how intentional the guys were when it
42:11
Speaker 5: came to developing the relationships. And I think we talked
42:15
Speaker 5: about both coordinators, but I also think that was part
42:18
Speaker 5: of the exchange that took place in the presser. I
42:21
Speaker 5: don't think people outside of Jacksonville know how well this
42:25
Speaker 5: staff has connected, not just inside the building, but the
42:29
Speaker 5: personal relationships they developed outside of the building. That brings
42:33
Speaker 5: about those responses where you feel like there's this human
42:37
Speaker 5: connection that extends beyond the professional relationships that we all have.
42:40
Speaker 6: Yeah, you don't turn this around to thirteen and four
42:44
Speaker 6: with this without what we're talking about. And again, if
42:49
Speaker 6: can't believes, I hope he doesn't love being around the guy.
42:53
Speaker 6: I think that element will remain. But he's been a
42:58
Speaker 6: special part of making that work because I can Mary.
43:00
Speaker 6: The first day we met, I think you were in
43:01
Speaker 6: there JP in the NEBC media room I talked to
43:04
Speaker 6: Camp for maybe forty minutes that day and he was,
43:06
Speaker 6: you know, just talking. And but the thing that he said,
43:10
Speaker 6: specifically without me bringing it up, was, look, everybody runs
43:15
Speaker 6: schemes in this league. You've got to make sure that
43:19
Speaker 6: these guys know you care about them. And he went
43:24
Speaker 6: on a little bit more and that was first and foremost.
43:27
Speaker 6: And it was that way all year. And you know,
43:31
Speaker 6: credit to this staff and him for making that work.
43:33
Speaker 3: Paid dividends for sure for the Jaguars. That's gonna do it.
43:37
Speaker 3: This is our final show the twenty twenty five season.
43:40
Speaker 3: We're gonna take a few weeks hiatus. We'll be back
43:43
Speaker 3: in podcast form two weeks after the super Bowl on
43:47
Speaker 3: that Wednesday, not the Wednesday right after the super Bowl,
43:49
Speaker 3: the Wednesday after that, whatever day that is to.
43:54
Speaker 5: Lead him to the combine. I mean, that's that's what
43:56
Speaker 5: that is. That's what we're talking about. We're not talking
43:57
Speaker 5: about super Bowl. Were talking about getting ready for the
44:00
Speaker 5: next season, which is draft season.
44:02
Speaker 4: Well up to the draft.
44:03
Speaker 2: It's Bucky Brooks season.
44:04
Speaker 7: Are you an Indy already, Bucky? Or do you wait?
44:07
Speaker 7: I mean, now you just go and set up.
44:09
Speaker 2: Did you buy real estate he's Indy, Like what I
44:13
Speaker 2: should set up?
44:14
Speaker 5: I should set up there like a camp out. Yeah,
44:17
Speaker 5: like it should be a lot of fun, fun looking
44:20
Speaker 5: forward to it.
44:20
Speaker 2: It usually is, Bucky, great season.
44:23
Speaker 3: Always appreciate it and thanks for the insight all year long.
44:27
Speaker 6: Man.
44:28
Speaker 4: Now it's been a lot of fun.
44:29
Speaker 5: Man, it's been really fun covering the team that is
44:31
Speaker 5: really good and covering a staff that kind of gets it.
44:33
Speaker 5: I'm excited to see where this thing continues to go.
44:36
Speaker 3: Bucky Brooks. John, you were good too, John Oser, Senior writer.
44:40
Speaker 3: I'm JP Shatterick. Thanks to our entire crew, Joe Fortune
44:43
Speaker 3: I oh Print Reaper. Thanks to you for watching and
44:45
Speaker 3: listening all season long. Huddle up with Bucky Brooks.