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Black Fridays Special - Fashion, Legacy, and Community: Inside Hot Sam's Detroit w/ Tony Stovall · Black Fridays: Business Growth for Entrepreneurs, Creators & Professionals

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  [SPEAKER_01]: What up, though, Black Friday family, welcome back to another installment of the Black Friday's podcast.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: We are kicking it here in the legacy lounge right here in the middle of Hot Sam's Detroit, who are partnering with to have the legacy business conversations with our staple marquee Black on legacy businesses in the city of Detroit.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And you can't talk about legacy and business or the city of Detroit without talking about Hot Sam.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So I want to introduce you all to my guest, Mr. Tony Stowville, the co-owner of Hot Sam's Detroit.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: day.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm wonderful my friend and yourself and I very appreciative for you all hosting us today to be able to do this special series and conversations in terms of our legacy businesses in the city and before we go any further I want to start with for you what does the word legacy mean.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Well, for me, legacy is leaving something behind.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: We can't continue to waste the space that God has given us and leave something of a positive nature.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Like the history of our people has been wonderful.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: One of resilience, entrepreneurship, and being first of almost everything we've ever done.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: So I think it's important to leave a legacy that what did you do in the space you gave you?
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And when you're thinking about legacy and business, never did I imagine when we purchased the store.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: There were many friends of ours telling us the chains in name from my sense, the fellows, Cliff and Tony, my man, they call me so many different, you know, creative we can be as black people.
• 1:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, but you must remember in business, you must keep your business cap on.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: So we kept the name hotzams and in doing so, never, never did I even think this far here.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: In 94, they hear,
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  [SPEAKER_00]: 2021, the store was in business for over a hundred years ago, then ago from now here we are now at the 2025.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And then you say, what do you want to do?
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  [SPEAKER_00]: You want to leave a legacy of business, entrepreneurship, that we can do anything we want to do.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And one, if we can keep the name hot, say I'm going on in a path positive way, that will be more than a blessing.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And so, take me back to the beginning of your error with hot stamps and like, where were you, take me back to that young man, but take me back to that younger man.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And what was his thought, process, his mentality during that time frame when you like, you know what, I'm ready to buy this business and take it over.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Well, I, I thank you for being so polite and kind as you talked about the years.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm truly not ashamed of being a senior because there's something all you better hope you can get to.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: If you're not a senior, I mean, you die young.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: But when I was actually I was in school.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: To be the, let's go engineer in 73.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: No 72.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And then my father always took me to hot sand.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Actually, I got my first real soup from hot sand because my father was a sharp dressing.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Mm-hmm.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: So, but I was always pretty good with numbers, the things that had natures.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And at that time, I was in college to be a lead squid generer.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: They made 12,000 all the year.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I worked in hot sand for six months and made 10,000.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Little did I know that I could make a living, selling clothes, everything else.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: So when all these things and you look at your life and you see these things that unfolded, I can't tell you honestly I knew it was going to turn out like this.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: You can only hope that you can do this because then we're going to be careful and hoping what we want because I end up
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  [SPEAKER_00]: buying hot sand because it did not like the way the previous family was treating black people.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: The customer based hot sand has always been like 90% African-American, and it was owned by different persuasion at that time.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And it did not like the response on some of the thing that it was treating us.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: So it gave me the courage to just sit up and see if I can buy this and we end up buying it and it's been a blessing ever since.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And then so you were able to do so, which a business partner, Mr. Green, and what has that been, what has it been like managing our relationship throughout the years in terms of being able to enter in this business together at that time, and then still be in the business together now.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Challenging.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: But we're really, it's very challenging at times because we first got to store business with fantastic.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Then about 2005, 2008, the economy failed.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: So we got to readjust some things at nature.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: But we were able to always maintain a good business focus.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: We were always able to put some money in south of the rainy day.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: We didn't have too many,
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  [SPEAKER_00]: day where we drastically disagree.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: We have had time when we have disagree.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: But long you're trying to direct the best thing for the whole and not for yourself, things think the possible could work out for the better.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Because when you're going to be in this one, it's good to have two people at different talents.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: But Mr. Green, he has a business degree from UOD.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: He's also a master tailor and a salesman.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm marketing and engineering skills and I've kind of like the voice of the store, right?
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  [SPEAKER_00]: So putting it two together, we're able to put times and bad times.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And what comes on, Bill collects us.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: We play this good guy bag, I think.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Mr. Green deals with our own regular basis.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: But when the problem gets severe, I have to talk to him.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And they know everything is real serious.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And he just worked things out.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: His ways of being in business.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And what I can say of keeping the name hot Sam's, we don't have too many individuals that don't want to ship us.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: All people do as they look, they go, we've got a hundred year business in downtown Detroit, so they give us advantage in shipping and people want to do business with us.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And when you all took over one of the main things that you mentioned is that you didn't like the way that they were treating their black customers, which was pretty much primarily their business.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: In addition to that, where were some of the other things that you all were like, you know, we need to change this around and put our own staple on it,
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  [SPEAKER_01]: make it the way that we want to do business.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: It's kind of what we're doing right now.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I wanted to store it to be a place where people can be in it, for tickler, because feel comfortable.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: But we can talk.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Women have a lot of their girlfriends, what they can bend here and there.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yep, most men don't.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Right, and they hold it in.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: But I would want to have a store at the previous store.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: We didn't have a television.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: We didn't have a music on.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: So now we want to create a...
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  [SPEAKER_00]: you know, a spirit of joy of awareness.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: If the game's on turn on, yeah, we can watch the game.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I want to have any, I don't want you to have any excuse, why, you know, like, you know, fellas, you know, we're watching the game.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: We might not want to go to the world.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Mm-hmm.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Well, I want you to be able to say, well, they got the game on down to the storm.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: We'll be shopping the same time.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: So I want to give a family kind of spirit, but I also wanted to let people know that you could come in any time and make them feel welcome and when they and they don't necessarily have to buy something either I want you know that but when they feel them in treating like family when they do get some money, they'll think of the ones and like hot sounds, the ones that will listen to me like We really need to understand we depend we really need each other.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And the customer has always been to keep the store has been in business for hundreds years.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: It will always be to keep because without your customer, you have nothing.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And the black community, we really got taken care of each other.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: We have a tendency.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: if it doesn't seem to go the way we want, we will, spit, vinyl, what another.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: That we must stop doing it.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: There are other people in our community that treat us horribly, but yeah, we patronize, anyway.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I think of anything else I want people to understand.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Hot sales been in business for a hundred years and downtown Detroit, a black city.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: If we can do it.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: you can do it.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I also want you to know this that the more we have for one another, the more we support each other, the more we have it collectively as a people.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Over the timeframe that you have had been a part of business and you've been a part of it for the bulk of this hundred year or probably yeah, probably yeah, majority of the hundred years, whether you were working here or owning it.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: What are some of the transformations, the key transformations that you've seen in either a customer base or the city of Detroit that you've all had to adjust and change with over time?
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Well, it was amazing.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And one time the client tells you to be a lot of young folks that wouldn't do it to well.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: We're doing illegal things.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: So therefore, you can't allow more flashy, flamboyant kind of things for fellow type elements.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: But then what you find out with steel sales is your basic blue suit and a black suit and a certain time.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And we've also seen it going from, we used to be Dressy Dressy Dressy.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: We went from being Dressy to Casio, where is everything now?
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Then we were really concerned about when everything went Casio, because we sold suits.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: We want to carry a fine immersion diet.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: So we learned that watching our customers, they were wear a spoco.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: So we started carrying spoco.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: So you got a spoco, you can wear a spoco with some jeans, right?
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Now, when you start getting extra confidence with your spoco jeans, you then try to pair dressed legs with spoco.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Then the process then, I can easily now take you into a suit.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: But to take one of these young people to have, never had a suit on, or never purchased a suit, or never thought about getting a suit was for them.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: It take one step at a time, and you help develop by young people, because we really need to understand how young folks, they're our future.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I remember one time, we were sitting in the store room, some of the fellows, and we were complaining about how younger generation's sagging.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: So what me and Mr. Green decided to do that, when we saw someone always young man, we were bringing them in the store and giving them a pan
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  [SPEAKER_00]: fit it on them properly.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: So you get more out of trying to teach them to be in critical one of them.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: It's very important that we watch what we say if we're going to really be the role models we should be for our children.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And kids are what they see.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: They see in a neighborhood everybody is doing this wrong to be perceived as popular.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: But if they can come in here and see a black man,
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  [SPEAKER_00]: who owns his own business legally, and he treats us all fair.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: That's really a legacy to us would be able to do that.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And another thing that we started doing that was new.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: We're also a work with the Reentry program.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: You know, if someone gets the unfortunate go to jail and quote unquote, payday debt to society, but yet they still can't get a job.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: So we're involved in a several programs like that where they go through the program, then we give them their first job interview soup.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: and teach them what to say and properly to walk and dress.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: So there's imperative that we, if you have a little bit, try to give a little bit.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: How does it feel for you to know that you're a part of a lot of people, special moments in life like that, like the program that you just mentioned, working with young people.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I know you have people coming here for prom, the wedding, and some all types of events.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Was there feel like to be a part of those special moments in people?
• 10:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: It can easily kind of go to your head, but what I've learned is good to be appreciated.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And you never realize the one little something I said made that big a difference.
• 10:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: You never know that.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: So we need to work on what we say, speak kindly, uplifting one another, because you never know who really need that spark.
• 10:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: I've had over the years I've had several young men, all that have function last week.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And I dressed these young guys for their junior prom.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: then now 31 32 and I went to event they invited me to go to and all these young men would dress well spoke well and was busy thanking me for something I called myself trying to do so it is nice to be appreciated.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: really is.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And being a part of people with special moments and even their fashion journeys as a whole, I got to ask you, where did your style of fashion come from?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Can I never see you at the bad outfit on any time I'm just seeing you doing the speaking engagement on stage and the story and never seeing you with a bad fit on your always just to the nines like where did you get your sister style from?
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Well, my dad, and like I told you earlier, my dad, he could dress real nice, often people say, I look like my dad.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: So he taught me to be a well-dressed.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: He taught me to speak the King's English.
• 11:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: He taught me to, here's one of we pass on to our European.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Because you never know when you're going to meet somebody.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: You have one time to make a first impression.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Why not make it your best?
• 11:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: Now you may get a second chance.
• 11:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: but why not make it your best.
• 11:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: So I just think that the person, you know, try to look the best of all times.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And it just works.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And I think it'll work for anybody if we do that.
• 12:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Do you think that, or do you have tips on staple pieces that, uh, let's think the men should have at part of their wardrobe to be as clean as they can with the regardless of budget?
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Well,
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm gonna keep but didn't mind.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: But what I'd say I'm done, we will give you a million dollar look, what I'll spend a million dollars.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: So I think it's the pair that you have to start your wardrobe, a black suit, a blue suit, a gray suit.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Then you also need to be able to have a nice pair of black slacks and some gray slacks.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: one white shirt and a blue dress shirt.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: You can take those items right there and mix and match them.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: The suit coat you can wear with a different pair of pants will look like a two office versus one.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Don't ever think you're going to build your wardrobe on.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Your shiny red suit or your powder blue suit.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: It's a piece that you can put in your wardrobe.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: But it's not some of you build your wardrobe around.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Before you start taking everything to another level, there's the basic fundamentals of black suit and the blucer.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Put those in your wardrobe.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: White shirt and a blue shirt.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Grace lacks black black.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: You'll take you a lot further than that read suit that I used to.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Not to say that they're not fine, but they're not appropriate to build your wardrobe around.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And also notice always notice your accessory.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: You always have really nice accessories on.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Do you have any suggestions for accessories that men should add to their wardrobe?
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Now you read something that's different from, well, for a lot of guys.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to wear, I'm going to wear a bracelet, I'm going to wear a pinky ring.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: It's just some back of the day, all of me, and I always had a pinky rings.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: It was something that fits for me, so it just carries on.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: But just that little bit of something else gives you that special you need.
• 13:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's how you put your special sauce on it, sure.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Love that.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So having the conversation around surrounding around legacy business, I would love to know what
• 13:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: has been your perspective of being able to build up this brand to get the story how you want to function, serve the people you want to serve and then being able to have a come full circle and then you have a young lady that I believe that's your name Lauren work here in the story.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: work here as well and be a part of the family business like what does that mean for you to see that come full circle well one of course I'm very proud of the fact that my I have three lovely daughters right all of them worked at one time or another long just having to come back at a time because you don't afford any them and graduate and she was she could just feel it and so I love just you know come around and still work a little bit more and do this and then by that time
• 14:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: We weren't online, long hasn't online, we weren't on Twitter, we didn't have all these different items.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And I'm going to tell you this for future, listen to the young people.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Do not think you have all of the ideas.
• 14:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: What we must know in life is constant, change is constant.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And sometimes when you have a story that you've been doing for 50 years, it's someone coming to the new idea and be open to it.
• 14:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: be open to it, because things change, and the younger generation has ideas that as older folks need to adjust it.
• 15:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: Loan has helped us change some things, method to hold concept of legacy, to leave it in the family, all the different things, the criteria that really make your legacy businesses to make sure you have all your paperwork and order, and to help promote other black businesses.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: So we're very proud of that, and I think it just started with
• 15:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: what we're going to do here to say Detroit.
• 15:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely.
• 15:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: And Lauren had mentioned when she came on like Friday's in their her episode that you all back in the day were partnered with a lot of businesses that were in the area.
• 15:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: So if there were a certain solid shoes that you didn't have, you would take them over to the shoe store and like help the customer be able to complete their fits.
• 15:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: What does it been like or what are some things you've been able to take away from other legacy businesses or appreciate about fellow legacy businesses in the city?
• 15:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: Well, actually, I've learned a great deal from Bert's who was black on an operative.
• 15:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: I watched him adjust, I watched him adjust the climate and see what Bert has done.
• 15:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: He's been in one location for most of the time, but he can service a multitude of personalities.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Every different nationality comes there.
• 16:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: On Saturday's Reops, on another day of soul food, on another day of blues and jazz, he's been able to maintain that.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: That's important when you're in business to adjust.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Then there's another friend of mine, he was my barber.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: He had an elanic barber shop.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And people say, one of the most important things of where you are, I mean, where your business is location, location, right?
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Harry Bolden had his barber shop.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Five different locations in downtown Detroit and they all survive.
• 16:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: So don't let somebody tell you what you cannot do.
• 16:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: There are witnesses of our greatness of black people
• 16:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: We can learn from something that we went through and not want to go through, but we need to learn from our past.
• 16:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: Some of the many pluses and entrepreneurs I met on the way here, I've learned a great deal, and there wisdom and being in the dogfight of ownership, there's a major something in what we do as honor.
• 17:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: We don't wait for things to happen.
• 17:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: We have to make things happen.
• 17:12
  [SPEAKER_00]: We also are not on the payroll.
• 17:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: We make the payroll.
• 17:14
  [SPEAKER_00]: That seat is different and we're going to a job and you get to change.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: When you have to make it and sometimes they're gonna be dark days.
• 17:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: We made my partner old over the years we paid.
• 17:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: I employed before we paid ourselves.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: See a lot of people give up when things get tight.
• 17:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: We believe in grinding, and done it's easy, keep grinding, and we're still here.
• 17:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: love that, love that, that's powerful.
• 17:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: And so if you don't mind, I would like to have a little bit of fun on Black Friday.
• 17:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: So all my guests, I introduced them to my favorite part, which is freestyle Friday.
• 17:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I don't know if you like do poetry, if you like the rap, you like to sing, but you know, you gotta give it something.
• 17:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: You preach now, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah
• 18:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: Well, you do me like I should jazz.
• 18:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, I love jazz.
• 18:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: Me and my wife would all the jazz conscious.
• 18:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: So, yes, I'm like a lot of jazz.
• 18:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, and then because I know that you are always coordinated with your face, what would you what's your favorite color or your staple color blue with my favorite color and I have light blue medium blue dark blue all the shades blue all the shades blue.
• 18:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, I love blue as well mine is if I get particular navy blue.
• 18:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: But I'm starting to appreciate more sake.
• 18:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: I like powder blue, baby blue.
• 18:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, anything blue.
• 18:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm pretty much good with it.
• 18:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, you like, burn.
• 18:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, what would you say is your favorite if you could only have one accessory what accessory would you go with to put on a fit.
• 18:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: You said a ses yeah, just one accessory.
• 19:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: very extensive.
• 19:12
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I just like my wardrobe is very extensive.
• 19:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: I have a watch collection probably match most of my clothing.
• 19:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
• 19:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I'm not finished.
• 19:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: I just like the little extra years.
• 19:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 19:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: But then let me ask you one.
• 19:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 19:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: So you're off the east side of was a west side.
• 19:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: No, this is different from East Side West Side.
• 19:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: East Side.
• 19:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: No, because from the East Side, we grind.
• 19:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: And that's one of the things about I've traveled the world with.
• 19:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: You hear people say this or that.
• 19:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: There's a few people would ask that question.
• 19:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: Are you on East Side or West Side?
• 19:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 19:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: But in Detroit, you got to them.
• 19:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: You got to.
• 19:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: You got to.
• 19:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, on West Side, all day, schoolcraft, green field.
• 19:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: And that's it.
• 19:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: And that's what I'm saying.
• 19:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: You said it with pride, too.
• 19:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: And that's what's being saying.
• 19:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: We have pride about ourselves.
• 20:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: You boldly, and you bleed it all the way, you say, a school crowd with a top-mine message.
• 20:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: And as the love we have for Detroit, and we got to remember that.
• 20:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: We got to love Detroit.
• 20:12
  [SPEAKER_00]: No one's great as an host.
• 20:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: I've traveled the world, and we were blessed.
• 20:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: They just said the other day, Detroit is in the top 25 places in the world, and people want to come to.
• 20:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: the other time when it was trying to save the last place you want to come to right we must remember we came from a great city we as black people are contributed to some of the greatest things ever and we need to remember that we are great people slowly rise up absolutely and last but not least for freestyle Friday what would you say that you splurge the what would you say you splurge you would splurge on like willingly spend the most money on if it was not and I have a hit I have a hunch that might be fascinating like clothes accessory so if it's not that I decided that what
• 20:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, gotta eat good.
• 20:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I'm gonna eat good.
• 20:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't care about the first normal Don't and I don't I'm really I'm a foodie.
• 21:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
• 21:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: I try every kind of cuisine I can't tell you cuisine.
• 21:06
  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't like okay
• 21:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know, like Chinese food, like Greek food, like Italian food might be one of my best, but I mean, I like food in the, I found that unfortunately, the more cost of business.
• 21:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: Well, thank you for partaking it, every style Friday.
• 21:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: And last but not least, just wanted to ask you what's on the horizon for hotstands, which are future foresight for the business or for you as an individual.
• 21:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: Well, actually, there are a couple goals, really, I would like to see.
• 21:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: Right now, we have a very successful brick and mortar store, but there are more and more dollars being spent online.
• 21:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: I would like us to be able to establish our online business and let it watch it prosper.
• 21:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: I also want to make sure that we collaborate with some of the new development coming around here in Detroit.
• 21:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's imperative that local businesses be involved in development.
• 21:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: of this great city.
• 21:58
  [SPEAKER_00]: I do not want to be one of the ladies back and don't know what's going on.
• 22:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: We're business and we're a business that we've helped the image of the city's right.
• 22:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: So I think that we should be part of whatever happens.
• 22:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's my vision.
• 22:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: I agree, thousand percent.
• 22:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: Well, I appreciate you so much for sitting down doing this interview with us today.
• 22:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: Of course, for our hosting us and helping us have legacy loans today.
• 22:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: And the hot sentence always been the business.
• 22:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: In the city that I've always had great appreciation and admiration for.
• 22:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I've been a customer of hot sentence.
• 22:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: previously and will continue to be in the future.
• 22:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: So very pretty stiff for all the work that you all do and also the community that the intentionality behind involved in the community and your work is greatly appreciated.
• 22:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: Appreciate your young man.
• 22:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: Mr. Dan Zale was been my day.
• 22:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: Thank you.
• 22:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: I appreciate you.
• 22:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: Everybody watch and listen.
• 22:45
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