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- 0:07Welcome to Show Don't Tell Writing with me, Suzy Vadori, where I teach you the tried and true secrets to writing fiction and nonfiction that will wow your readers, broken down step by step.
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- 0:58Let's dive in.
- 1:03Oh my gosh.
- 1:03This is the episode that has been bubbling up in me since I started this podcast.
- 1:08The one that listeners always ask for.
- 1:11And it's one of the biggest mistakes that I see in fiction writers drafts over and over and over again that you might be able to learn from.
- 1:21Because I meet with thousands of writers every single year at my sessions, at my events, talking with them about their book writing dreams and sharing practical advice.
- 1:30And we And provide specific editing advice on about a hundred books per year.
- 1:36And those writers also get feedback during that time that we work together from their agents, from their publishers, and from their readers that I am privy to.
- 1:45There are definitely patterns and I find myself giving the same feedback in different ways for different books because it shows up differently.
- 1:53But essentially, I see the same main errors over and over again, and no, I'm not talking about grammar.
- 2:01Okay.
- 2:01This is get your book professionally edited and that problem goes away.
- 2:06I'm talking about structurally decisions that you, the writers can make to make your book, your idea, your voice, the strongest it can possibly be.
- 2:17This list that I'm going to have in this episode is for fiction.
- 2:21Although.
- 2:21For a novel, although much of the advice will also apply to memoir, which is writing your autobiography and business books as well.
- 2:29And I will be creating specific episodes for those genres in the future, but for now, if you're writing something other than a novel, this advice is still a good start, no matter what kind of book you're writing.
- 2:41I've been adding to this list and trimming it in my mind for weeks, but I'm excited to share it with you in plain language as only I do what these mistakes are and frankly, how you can fix them when deciding what to put on the list.
- 2:56I mean, I could talk about this all day, and I'm not even exaggerating.
- 2:59Some days I do.
- 3:01But I'm choosing just the mistakes that will actually make your book automatically not work.
- 3:07And what I mean by that is that these will earn you an instant rejection if you're querying or trying to traditionally publish.
- 3:14Or, they might, if you get it all the way into print, they will probably make a reader put it down and stop reading.
- 3:21Okay?
- 3:22Sorry to be so dramatic on you, but yes, these mistakes can mean the difference between your book starting a conversation with the world, getting read and loved and shared, or that exact same book wasting away as number one million on the Amazon charts.
- 3:39With no readers at all.
- 3:41So it's worth paying attention.
- 3:43That's right.
- 3:44I'm saying the same book.
- 3:46Your same idea.
- 3:48Your same thoughts.
- 3:50Your same strategy.
- 3:52Presented in a slightly different way.
- 3:55But the good news is, all these mistakes are fixable.
- 3:58And you don't have to change your vision, your intention, or your voice.
- 4:02So let's dive in.
- 4:05Mistake number one.
- 4:06Not ending the book where you should.
- 4:09Okay, I'll back up a little bit because there's lots of advice out there on where to open your book.
- 4:14And yes, writers get that wrong, too.
- 4:16But that first chapter gets so much love and attention already.
- 4:20If you're like any of the writers that I work with, you've probably reworked that a dozen times.
- 4:25It's super important.
- 4:26Don't overlook it, but it doesn't belong on this list.
- 4:29Because many writers have actually figured this out by the time they work with me.
- 4:33More commonly, where your book ends is the problem.
- 4:37So many versions of Story Mountain, you know that visual diagram that I talk about all the time, where story starts and then action builds to a climax and then it falls.
- 4:48And it looks like a mountain when it's graphed out.
- 4:51Many versions that I see of this show the climax, or the peak of your mountain, the peak of your story, sitting in the middle of the book, or just slightly after.
- 5:01This is wrong.
- 5:03In fact, your climax should happen almost at the end of your book.
- 5:06It's like a lopsided mountain.
- 5:08Once the big problem in your story has resolved, one way or another, doesn't have to be a good way, right, or a happy way, It's race to get the book wrapped up, because there's no suspense left.
- 5:21If you've got a ton of things in your book after your climax, it starts to feel like, and then this happened, and then this happened.
- 5:31Guess what?
- 5:32Your readers are done.
- 5:33They've lost interest, and they won't finish your book.
- 5:37That being said, make sure there's time for a denouement.
- 5:41Now, The word denouement is going out of fashion.
- 5:44I'm going to try to bring it back.
- 5:46And I'm going to tell you why.
- 5:47Because it's not even taught in schools anymore.
- 5:50When I do school visits, I make sure that I mention the denouement.
- 5:53Because it's been replaced on the story mountain diagram with simply the word ending.
- 6:00Ending is so abrupt.
- 6:02It's like, it's done.
- 6:04And that's the next problem.
- 6:06If a writer just ends the story.
- 6:08It can be wholly unsatisfying to your reader, and they're left not wanting more.
- 6:14Sometimes writers think that if we just end it, they're gonna want more, right?
- 6:18That's what we hope, but that isn't the case.
- 6:21They're left empty.
- 6:23They've had a sneeze stuck in their nose that they can't get out, right?
- 6:27It's annoying, and it's not gonna get you five star reviews, even if the rest of your book was great.
- 6:34Okay, this is where the denouement part comes in.
- 6:37Take the Cinderella story, which I love to teach with because everybody knows it and it fits the most satisfying story shape so perfectly.
- 6:46The Cinderella story is over the moment the glass slipper fits, right?
- 6:51That's the moment that the story is really done.
- 6:54Nothing else really happens.
- 6:55I mean, nothing important happens, right?
- 6:58So, the last slipper fits, and the footmen confirm her identity.
- 7:03What if your story ended there?
- 7:05Or what if the Cinderella story ended there?
- 7:07We have all the information, but instead, we get to go to the wedding! Why do we go to the wedding?
- 7:13You can probably picture the Disney rendition of the Cinderella story in your mind's eye.
- 7:17Cinderella with the prince on her arm, in her shimmering white dress, floating down the stairs.
- 7:23This denouement, or Cinderella's new normal, quote unquote, is shown so that the audience can experience her transformation.
- 7:32Her transformation in that story is from rags to riches, which is her character arc.
- 7:36And you want to imagine what her new life will be like, and sort of have that extra scene to experience it.
- 7:43The denouement is a chance to say goodbye to your characters.
- 7:47Which your readers need, so that they don't leave your book with a book hangover.
- 7:52Right?
- 7:52That's what we call it when you're sort of unsatisfied, a book hangover, where you're wanting more, but it's not, like, in a good way.
- 7:59This Day New Mom works both for happy endings, like the Cinderella story, or unhappy ones.
- 8:04Like, if the story were really about the stepsisters Maybe the unhappy endings de Noument would be them having to scrub their own floors, right?
- 8:13And we'd see that scene instead to experience what the stepsisters new normal is before we leave the story.
- 8:19I'm gonna say more on choosing whose story you're telling in mistake number two, but first I'm gonna give you a few more tips so that your ending doesn't make readers throw your book across the room when they're done.
- 8:31Nothing in your ending, or denouement, should be new information.
- 8:36This is where you wrap up all the threads that you've opened in the book.
- 8:41And lastly, it's said in the book industry, and I just love this, but it's a really tall order, that a great ending is both surprising, yet inevitable.
- 8:51Lots of times we get the surprise right as writers, because we want that, but we don't get the inevitable part right.
- 8:58So, as in, You didn't see it coming, or the reader didn't see it coming, but once they finish your book, there's no other way they can think of or imagine that it could end.
- 9:09This is what creates reader satisfaction.
- 9:12All the clues as to how your book will end should be planted all the way along in your book.
- 9:18It's a huge conundrum.
- 9:20I know it's a tall order, but test the ending you have against the surprising yet inevitable standard and see how it holds up.
- 9:29Oh, I could probably do a whole episode just on creating a satisfying ending.
- 9:34And if you want this, please leave a note in the comments and I'll add an episode like that in the future.
- 9:39But for now, we're going to move on to mistake number two.
- 9:43Mistake number two is not choosing one person's story.
- 9:48Okay, this is going to be the most controversial one on this list.
- 9:52So bring on the arguments.
- 9:54I'm happy to discuss it, but I can guarantee you If you haven't chosen one of your characters as your main character, your story structure does not work.
- 10:04And yes, I'm aware that your story might have more than one point of view character, as in you're writing in more than one voice.
- 10:12Your story might even be written in an omniscient point of view, following many characters thoughts and emotions.
- 10:18You could be writing in a genre such as romance, which commonly tells the same story from both sides of a relationship.
- 10:25Or you might be wanting to show the journey of group of five friends.
- 10:29I've heard it all, but I promise you, it doesn't matter.
- 10:33Pick one character that you want readers to care about the most.
- 10:37This is important.
- 10:38Pick the one that you want us to cheer the hardest for.
- 10:43This is sometimes, it's almost always an easy choice when I, when I phrase it like that.
- 10:48Then, map your book around that character's arc of change.
- 10:52And that becomes your spine, that one character's arc of change.
- 10:55That is the spine to your novel's structure.
- 10:59Yes, the other characters also have arcs of change.
- 11:03They do.
- 11:04And they may be really important, and they may be really awesome, and you still need that.
- 11:08But other character or supporting character's arc should weave in and out around that.
- 11:13Your main character's arc, mirroring them, contrasting what's happening, pushing them to change.
- 11:20This is what creates satisfying moments in a multiple point of view book.
- 11:25If you don't do this and you build all these separate arcs independently, they're going to clash and confuse your reader.
- 11:32They're not going to weave together the same way.
- 11:34They won't give the reader these satisfying moments and they might not finish your book.
- 11:39So be ruthless.
- 11:40Name one character as your main.
- 11:43Hey, mistake number three.
- 11:45What does your character want?
- 11:47Sometimes my clients say I'm a broken record because they can't believe that they missed this in the scene.
- 11:52I'm like, alright, I'm gonna be a broken record again.
- 11:54Hey, what does your character want in this scene?
- 11:58This one is so fundamental, I can't even express to you how many times it's missed.
- 12:03Because we're so worried about the plot that we forget about what your character's up to.
- 12:07You need to establish what your character wants A.
- 12:10S.
- 12:10A.
- 12:11P.
- 12:11in a book to hook a reader like this.
- 12:13I'm talking page one, right?
- 12:15Page one, page two, maybe.
- 12:17But what does your character want?
- 12:19This can be an overall goal for the entire book or a scene level goal, right?
- 12:24But you need to have something that they're trying to do in your scene.
- 12:28Because if you establish this, readers can track all the stuff they do to try to get it, right?
- 12:34This is called agency, and I can get into that another time.
- 12:38But if you have this and this goal, We're going to cheer for them.
- 12:43Your readers are going to cheer for them when they succeed or cry with them when they fail.
- 12:48As long as we can see that, number one, your character wants something.
- 12:54Okay, and number two, they're actually making decisions that they think will help them get it.
- 13:00If they're wrong, or especially if they're wrong, have them make decisions.
- 13:04If you don't establish what your character wants, like, right away, And they're just letting things happen to them without deciding anything, you're dead.
- 13:14The scene is flat, and readers don't care about your character, and they're not going to keep turning the pages.
- 13:20On this one, they also get pushback, so if you're thinking, This in your mind, I'm gonna voice it, but Susie writers say you're missing my point.
- 13:28My character isn't bossy or extroverted, going around changing everything, being assertive, and showing what they want.
- 13:36I want to demonstrate a different character, one who's introverted or a wallflower.
- 13:41And she's gonna start making decisions later in the book as she changes, just be patient.
- 13:47Okay, to that I say yes to introverted or wallflower characters, do it.
- 13:52But no, you're not exempt from making this work in your book.
- 13:56Don't make the mistake of thinking that introverted or wallflower characters are less interested in their circumstances or less opinionated in what happens to them in this world.
- 14:07If you're a person with these traits or you live and work with many, as I do, you know that this is true.
- 14:13Just because those characters don't wear their intention on their sleeve or go around shouting about it Doesn't mean that they don't have a goal or that they're not controlling what happens to them.
- 14:24In books, you have this cool thing It's inner thoughts, right?
- 14:28It's the one thing that books have that movies and other mediums don't have.
- 14:33Use it! You have inner thoughts as a tool, as a technique.
- 14:37Show their intention, their actions, and their emotions.
- 14:40Just because they're not shouting out about it Doesn't mean that they're not making the decision to stay home, right?
- 14:46Doesn't mean that they're making the decision not to get involved.
- 14:50Show us.
- 14:51If they're not acting on their intention, show us that it's a choice still, and that they are affecting their own destiny.
- 14:58Then we'll care.
- 15:00Okay.
- 15:01Mistake number four.
- 15:02Repeating sections or not building an arc of change in.
- 15:06Repeating information your reader already knows is the kiss of death.
- 15:11It's boring for your reader, and it doesn't move your story forward.
- 15:15You might be building scenes that have word count, but are redundant, so pay attention, okay?
- 15:21Writers will often justify this repetition when we have this conversation by saying, Suzie, yeah, the reader saw the battle, but now she's telling her sister about it, and that has to happen too.
- 15:32Okay, yes, they totally get you.
- 15:35Maybe the sister needs to know what happens in your book for your book to make sense, except watching the sister gasp, I feel shocked at all the moments when a reader has already witnessed firsthand at the battle.
- 15:49They, they attended the battle and watched it unfold.
- 15:53It's not exciting to watch the sister react.
- 15:56We've already been through that emotional rollercoaster once.
- 16:00And we're not going to want to do it again, okay?
- 16:03If you have a scene like this, cut it.
- 16:06We'll place it with a summary, a simple, she filled her sister in on the battle, would do just fine.
- 16:11And if you still feel that you need to repeat something, make sure, please, please, please, think of your reader, okay?
- 16:19If the reader already has information, don't share it.
- 16:22If you must share it, because otherwise, it absolutely doesn't make sense in your brain.
- 16:26Make sure that you're adding new information for the reader who's paying attention.
- 16:30Reward them.
- 16:32Build on your reader's understanding of what happened to reward them.
- 16:36If they're paying attention, keep them engaged.
- 16:39So, for example, if we witnessed the battle firsthand, maybe in the recap where she has to share it with her sister, We're going to find out new information, such as how the character is now having nightmares about participating in this battle, or that they got new information that their own side staged the attack that set the whole thing off.
- 16:58I don't know what belongs there, but let's shut the parts that we already know and add something new.
- 17:04Okay?
- 17:04This technique of building on information can work for any concept that's repeated several times, even if it's small.
- 17:11So, if you have something like this that comes up again and again and you're not sure if it's like redundant or if you need it, see if you can map a way that every time it's mentioned there's something in it for your reader and that their understanding deepens.
- 17:27Last but not least, and you'll want to hear me mention this one a lot, mistake number five, your word count.
- 17:33Some writers will tell you to make your story as long or as short as it is or as it needs to be, that it doesn't matter.
- 17:42This is really bad advice, because once you choose a genre or category for your book, and this is a must by the way, your book is going to sit on a shelf in a bookstore or be displayed online next to others that are like it.
- 17:57Your book being offered in that category is simply the act of it being there.
- 18:01Sets up expectations for your reader because reading a hundred page book versus a four hundred page book is a completely different Experience and will attract a different reader and if you break their expectations You might end up turning off a reader for no reason other than this even if your book is perfect Otherwise, it is such an easy thing to pay attention to Don't ignore it.
- 18:26In the industry, it's standard to consider word count, or the number of words that are in your book or manuscript, rather than page count, because the page count can be manipulated based on the layout of the book.
- 18:38So word count, you're going to find it if you open up your word processor.
- 18:42Then you're going to find it in the bottom left corner, likely, or you can poke around if it's not there.
- 18:47If you have a different word processor than me, look up word count.
- 18:50Look at other books to figure out what is normal in your category or what is sort of the norm or the standard.
- 18:58Look at other books in your genre or category to get a sense of this.
- 19:02It can range from, like, 50, 000 words is a short book, and it might be appropriate for middle grade, right, for, like, 9 to 12 year olds.
- 19:12Or in a business self help book where there's tons of white space, then 50, 000 might be great.
- 19:17It could go all the way to 80, 000 for a business or self help book.
- 19:22It could go all the way up to 120, 000.
- 19:25for certain categories of adult fantasy or science fiction.
- 19:29If you're wildly low or high on the normal range for your genre, you're going to annoy your readers.
- 19:36Meaning, they're not going to give you a five star review and they're not going to share the book with their friends.
- 19:41Because most writers that I meet, when they get this wrong, they have books that are way too long.
- 19:49These writers will justify this when we meet.
- 19:52By pointing to the one breakout novel in their category, that's the exception to the rule.
- 19:58Don't do this.
- 20:00You're shooting yourself in the foot.
- 20:02Because if there are exceptions in your categories, there are reasons.
- 20:07And the most common reason is that the writer is already a big deal.
- 20:12And that's not true.
- 20:13The publisher or the writer, if they're self publishing, knows they're going to sell lots of books.
- 20:17So the fact that everything costs more to handle, right?
- 20:21The longer the book you have, everything costs more.
- 20:24From editing, to layout, to paper for the print copy, right?
- 20:28The actual pages of the book, to recording the audio book and paying an actor or recording it yourself and getting it edited.
- 20:35Everything costs more the longer your book is.
- 20:39And a publisher can make this investment for an established author.
- 20:44They are not, you know, they'll take that risk because they are pretty sure it's going to pay off.
- 20:48They won't make that investment on a new writer.
- 20:51Instead, you're going to earn an instant rejection or like kind of an eye roll, like, Oh, this writer didn't do their homework.
- 20:58Now, when I share these things, it is not this one in particular.
- 21:03Is not a hundred percent.
- 21:04There are people out there that will give your book a chance if they love it enough, but why make it harder on yourself?
- 21:11If you query a hundred agents and only two of them are even going to look at it because they're the ones who are okay with the word count being berserk.
- 21:19You're limiting yourself.
- 21:21Bring it in the range.
- 21:22Bring it in the range.
- 21:24If your plan is to self or independently publish, you're the one footing the bill.
- 21:30So we talk a lot on this podcast and I talk a lot with writers about making a business of it in the business of writing.
- 21:37You're the one fitting the bill.
- 21:38So in addition to potentially disappointing your readers, giving them a book that's way longer than they expect, Your costs are going to be higher to produce the book and unless you want to charge 50 for your paperback, which I don't recommend, you're going to make less money for every copy that you sell.
- 21:58So hear me.
- 22:00If your book is too long right now, don't worry.
- 22:04There are ways to get your word count under control without losing anything from your story.
- 22:09I get it.
- 22:10You don't want to cut it in half.
- 22:12You don't want to delete a whole bunch of stuff.
- 22:14You don't have to, necessarily.
- 22:16I've outlined these in an article I wrote for the Writers Helping Writers blog called Slay Your Bloated Word Count.
- 22:23I'll drop a link to this in the show notes.
- 22:26I could talk about writing all day long and the mistakes that I find, but these are the top five, the ones that if you don't address you're going to have a problem.
- 22:35If you have a topic that I didn't address, you're That you want me to?
- 22:39Or if you have a question that I can answer about your own writing, drop it in the comments and I'll answer it on a future episode.
- 22:54Thanks for tuning in to Show Don't Tell Writing with me, Suzy Vadori.
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