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- 0:00Barbara Bound Bound Banger management Fantasy hockey
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- 0:11Who Welcome Manual The Banker Management The Fantasy Hockey
- 0:15Podcast with your esteemed hosts Jake, Josh and Kevin.
- 0:20I am feeling esteemed today. Very esteemed.
- 0:24Esteemed or like, full of steam and like an Angel.
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- 0:34hand movement was there too and everything.
- 0:36How do you say esteemed in Italian Just for our own
- 0:43personal culture, it's. Stamato.
- 0:45Yeah, exactly. I'm a Stamato.
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- 0:52today we're gonna be doing a cool kind of thing for the
- 0:56episodes. Cool kind of thing kind of
- 0:59thing. Whatever you guys.
- 1:00So we just got our draft order yesterday for our league of
- 1:03record. We're going to be going over our
- 1:06draft position pretty much round one and two, which.
- 1:10There's a lot to talk about, so we're just.
- 1:11Keeping it a lot to say and exciting it is leaked specific.
- 1:15I'm pretty sure this is a good way of assessing it for bankers
- 1:17leagues overall, yeah. Definitely.
- 1:19I think anyone who's in our specific positions will get a
- 1:23lot out of it. Anyone who's around our
- 1:24position, everyone's gonna get a lot out of it.
- 1:26But it's just this is what happens.
- 1:27You get your draft order and you start tinkering and thinking
- 1:29about, OK, here's the 3-4 guys, we're gonna be available at my
- 1:32spot, who should I take and why? And so I think it's going to be
- 1:34a really fun episode. After round two things go crazy
- 1:37but I feel like. Predict that far ahead like you
- 1:40can get a general idea, but yeah, that's how we just.
- 1:42Gonna think Hawk is one of those like the fantasy sports that is
- 1:45least reliant on ADP in my opinion.
- 1:48I just feel like people take their guys when they want to
- 1:50take their guys. And yeah, and I think that's
- 1:51awesome, I think. Yeah, it is.
- 1:53It's way more. Fundamentally, but round one and
- 1:55two. There's obviously like, yeah,
- 1:57yeah, there's a main order. There's a system, I feel like
- 2:00the for 14 team leagues, the top 30 or so picks is like pretty
- 2:05much where you're at. And this can provide a little
- 2:07bit of value for like why we think certain players are ranked
- 2:10higher than ADP especially, you know what I mean?
- 2:13So. For our league specifically,
- 2:15though, we definitely should preface with, you know, yeah,
- 2:17our league is 14 teams deep and it's like 22 rounds deep, so
- 2:22you're drafting almost. 20. 20 rounds deep.
- 2:25OK, so we're drafting almost 300 players.
- 2:27Sorry, and and the cattle. Was really the most.
- 2:31Expensive is it is a category bangers league, right?
- 2:34And this is like, I feel like one of the most bangers category
- 2:37leagues you can have because it covers all the categories.
- 2:39We have goals, assists, points, Pimms, power play points, short
- 2:44handed points, which is an odd one for most leagues.
- 2:47Shots on goal face off wins, which is another special one,
- 2:50hits blocks and then for goalies wins goals against average
- 2:53saves, save percentage, shutouts.
- 2:55SO15 categories total. Yeah, we dive.
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- 3:40Alright, let's dive in to which of the three of us has the
- 3:44earliest pick in the draft. It is a shocker to absolutely no
- 3:47one. It is Mr. Jakey refuses to have
- 3:49a non top three. Pick seriously every year.
- 3:52Has he ever had a non-toxic? Not since I joined the league.
- 3:54So that's pretty crazy actually. No, last year you were like four
- 3:58or five, so. Last year I was five, yeah.
- 4:00No, you were four and you had Kucherov.
- 4:02No, I was four and he was 5. OK, so we'll give you that.
- 4:07But every other year you were like first of all two years in a
- 4:08row and then second. Over the one time Jackie got the
- 4:101st overall pick, it took Matthews.
- 4:11Yeah, no, boys, I was second. David.
- 4:14That was awesome. Yeah.
- 4:15Yeah. OK.
- 4:16So Jakey at 3, obviously number one and two is gonna be McKinnon
- 4:21McDavid in one order. Another we've talked about a
- 4:23million times. But lucky for Jakey, he doesn't
- 4:25have to care about that. Yeah, we're at #3.
- 4:27Who are the three guys you're looking at?
- 4:30OK, the two guys. I think it's really nice that
- 4:34the decision is not between those two.
- 4:36I would say 1 is a. Really, I would love to have the
- 4:38other decision. It's it's nice that one.
- 4:43I would not want to be one this year.
- 4:45I think it's a really, really difficult choice.
- 4:47I actually think most people are gonna go with McDavid.
- 4:49We broke down our centre rankings for this year where we
- 4:52think Mckinnon's gonna be #1 and he's going to go first overall.
- 4:55That's where we would do it. But most people, I think, are
- 4:57picking me because a lot of people feel like you.
- 5:00Can't McDavid can break fantasy if you want.
- 5:02You can score 60 goals if you wanted to.
- 5:06Yeah, he. Could, which is bonkers, but
- 5:08it's possible. That being said, Mckinnon's
- 5:10proven to be just as good in recent years.
- 5:13So my kind of situation that I'm at, I'm between three guys.
- 5:18Two of them I feel like are obvious.
- 5:19It's between dry subtle and Kucherov.
- 5:21The third I'm heavily, heavily considering here is Brady to
- 5:24Chuck. I'm scared to do this because
- 5:27dry saddle is the pick, I think, and Kucherov is the obvious
- 5:31secondary. Maybe you do that because the
- 5:32points are so elite, but I know how easy it is for me to talk
- 5:35myself into Brady, to Chuck, and so much so that.
- 5:39I'd be doing the number four guy a favor if you like.
- 5:41If you like DRY, that'll fall there.
- 5:43Exactly. So Brady to Chuck and our league
- 5:45settings, which is basically encompassing all Bangor
- 5:47categories is an absolute, absolute monster.
- 5:50He ends up ranked 3rd or 4th every year, which you know on
- 5:54Yahoo incorporates your league settings.
- 5:56And that's with like never really cracking more than .75
- 5:59points. Per game Exactly.
- 6:01Last year he was 8th in our league in our league.
- 6:05You're sure I have them at 17. Now on our on our on average it
- 6:10was McKinnon, Dr. Little, Kucherov, Matthews, McDavid, JT
- 6:14Miller, Brady Kuchuk. OK.
- 6:15In our league specifically, yeah, obviously we have pimps
- 6:17and we have short handed. And that was a down year for
- 6:20Brady. He got his worst points per game
- 6:22in a few years to that point. Over four shots on goal per
- 6:26game. 2 1/2 faceoffs per game, over three hits per game.
- 6:29Ridiculous. Just, Oh my God, 1.71 Pimms.
- 6:32It's like, just not. It's game breaking in Pimpley.
- 6:35Yeah, I see why I love Brady so much.
- 6:37There is because you could do so many some things with your team
- 6:40given our league settings. You can pick him and then it
- 6:42just creates a whole amazing array of possibilities.
- 6:46You could just aim for like points guys later on and then
- 6:49still be deleted. All those categories.
- 6:51You can just double down and just become indestructible and
- 6:54shots and hits Pimms. So it's so fun.
- 6:57That being said, I think the obvious choice here is dry Sydal
- 7:01and the reason being is because you have the face offs from him
- 7:04that you don't have from Kucherov.
- 7:05You also have shots that, you know, last season average dry
- 7:09solo was out of 338, coach was out of 340, basically the same,
- 7:13right? There's no real difference.
- 7:15So yeah, I mean to to me what you can do, having dry saddle on
- 7:20your team is just it. Also infinite possibility.
- 7:23The centre left wing is great. Yeah, centre left, we live in a
- 7:26faceoff leagues. When he's solid at faceoffs,
- 7:28it's just like an extra boost that makes you so competitive in
- 7:31that category. Exactly.
- 7:33So, So yeah. And I mean, at that point, the
- 7:35reason I just did essentially give him the edge is because
- 7:37he's got the faceoffs and doesn't.
- 7:38And I don't think the point sealing the points difference is
- 7:41gonna be more than 20. Could have won the Art Ross last
- 7:44few years. Yeah, forget, right.
- 7:45If it becomes 15 plus then I think OK maybe I should pick.
- 7:49Otherwise I'm just happy with the face off.
- 7:52I think the correct pick is dry saddle.
- 7:56In the pic I would have made is Kucherov because I'm punting
- 8:00face off wins most likely. Yeah.
- 8:01Yeah. And I think the fun pick is
- 8:02Brady. Yeah.
- 8:03I think of the three, you're not gonna be upset regardless, but
- 8:06at the end of the day, you're trying to make the best pick.
- 8:09So I think you gotta go dry saddle.
- 8:10But again, of those three guys, I'm my position I wanted the
- 8:14most in the draft is fifth because that's where I'd feel
- 8:17super happy taking Brady. And I thought that would be the
- 8:19funnest start to my draft and have a great year.
- 8:21Yeah, exactly. And I do feel like I was at
- 8:23three, I would have had the guts to take Brady.
- 8:25But again, like it's just that Kucherov slash rice.
- 8:28It could literally get twice as many points as Brady.
- 8:30I know. So that's why it's it's tough
- 8:32because at that point it outweighs probably the back
- 8:35cats. There's just there's four guys
- 8:37in the league that will get you like 1.5 points per game.
- 8:39Yeah. And it's Kucherov, McDavid,
- 8:41Draisaitl, McKinnon. Yeah.
- 8:42It just feels like as long as those guys are on the board,
- 8:44they have to. Go Exactly.
- 8:45Yeah. So that's why I think the pick
- 8:47for you is dry saddle. But look, in the next two weeks,
- 8:49you're gonna keep thinking about it.
- 8:50You talk yourself into one like I've also when we get to my
- 8:53position, I've talked myself into the 3-4 guys that I'm
- 8:56debating throughout literally today because we found out last
- 8:59night I've had a different one of them on.
- 9:00Top I know hours, I've changed my pic like somebody times
- 9:03already yesterday. But I think, Kevin, do you agree
- 9:06with dry into Cooch into Brady? As you're that order, I think
- 9:08you have to because, you know, it's fun to think about the
- 9:12upsides. Like what if Brady like closes
- 9:13the gap in points or whatever? But like, I feel like he has a
- 9:16hard enough time getting to a point per game.
- 9:18Yeah, he obviously hits the other categories extremely well,
- 9:21but those guys you just know that are gonna be insane for
- 9:24points, power play points and shots.
- 9:26Did hit point for game though. I think he's probably better
- 9:28than the other two guys even with them getting like 1.4
- 9:31points per game. I think the back hats are just
- 9:34so unreal. That's like that's like 1.4
- 9:37versus one that's still almost like an extra skater that you
- 9:41have at the end of your bench. Like just.
- 9:42Get Yeah, but just having that coverage of the Pimms shots and
- 9:45hits with the chip into the face off wins.
- 9:47It's just so ridiculous that you staple that onto a point per
- 9:49game guy. And I think that's just too
- 9:51valuable. Fact is, he hasn't been a point
- 9:53per game yet. So that's why you'd be taking
- 9:55him at his ceiling as opposed to taking him where he's been.
- 9:58And that's why you go with the other two guys who are more
- 10:00proven. But I don't think it's.
- 10:01A I think Brady could get 80 points, but like I think and is
- 10:04out of the question like Jake has mentioned that a little bit
- 10:06like where like what if he has a 90 points, I don't think.
- 10:08You can have any point, but he can get point per game and I
- 10:10think that's huge, yeah. What's also cool about dry
- 10:13settle is that whenever Mcdavid's had injury issues or
- 10:16been out for a few games, he's just.
- 10:18As good does not better. Yeah, you know what I mean.
- 10:20And if McDavid? Has the most goals last year.
- 10:22Yeah, and if McDavid has a quote UN quote bounce back season, not
- 10:26that bad. It's.
- 10:27Just like we. Expect yeah, and that just helps
- 10:30drives out. 100% I think we all think that David's gonna have
- 10:33that quote UN quote bounce back season.
- 10:35Even Drizzle has said in interviews like he's just, like,
- 10:37he tells me, David, like, you know, just be a little bit more
- 10:39selfish and, yeah, shoot the puck a little more, yeah.
- 10:41Yeah, don't be more selfish, like keep passing the Leon cause
- 10:44I'm picking but but but otherwise, yeah, this is just an
- 10:49amazing team. And I don't think they're like
- 10:53Florida, who we suspect is maybe gonna but you know, take their
- 10:57take their foot off the gas, if you will you.
- 10:59Know what I mean? Haven't earned the right.
- 11:01To do exactly. Sure, they made the finals twice
- 11:03in a row, but that's nothing you.
- 11:04Don't I think last year we saw them take the foot off the gas
- 11:06quote UN quote at the end of the season like they were no drugs
- 11:08at all as soon as they hit the. Sucked.
- 11:10I had dry Seattle last year and they load managed him.
- 11:12Like we don't even play with the last week of the year because of
- 11:14that reason. Load managed him two weeks
- 11:17earlier. Than I mean his streak broken
- 11:19they were alright that's. It Yeah, exactly.
- 11:21No, it was. It was really brutal, but.
- 11:22Yeah. So those are my 3 in which is
- 11:24interesting because when we get to Kevin, who is at.
- 11:28Six. I'm dropping at six so dinky
- 11:30drops dry soil at 3, let's say hypothetically.
- 11:32Yeah, In all likelihood, yes. Now the funny part is that
- 11:36between my three, I think you could get Brady.
- 11:39I think there's a possibility because we didn't mention
- 11:41Matthews was just someone I don't want in that bunch.
- 11:44I think I like the three options I have better.
- 11:46I also JT Miller, so I mean. There's a world where Kutra
- 11:51falls to 6. Shake that ass like that.
- 11:56You heard? It here first.
- 11:58Check out our next tick Tock. I will learn how to twerk, but
- 12:03but I, I think, I think it's pretty much impossible for me to
- 12:06help that. It's just pretty much.
- 12:07Like, I think so, yeah, let's move on to Kevin at six.
- 12:11We, we're pretty confident it's gonna go McKenna, McDavid,
- 12:16Draisaitl, Kucherov. And then at 5:00, that's where
- 12:19it gets interesting. 5, they can take Brady, they could take
- 12:22Matthews, they could take Pasta. I think any of those three guys
- 12:26probably goes at 5:00. And that leaves Kevin with those
- 12:29same options. Plus J's in the conversation.
- 12:31So that's the thing, not for us, not for us, but I'm just saying
- 12:36like in your normal. League, yeah, at any moment he
- 12:38could get taken and one if he had seen before.
- 12:41One of us goes, we're like, so happy.
- 12:42And if you're in a bangers league that even has more goalie
- 12:46categories than us, I still wouldn't take him because what
- 12:48happens is. On the 1st.
- 12:50Yeah, the drop off between the 1st and the second round is
- 12:52general is so huge that if you do take Hella Buck and he just
- 12:57doesn't replicate what he did last year, or even if he does,
- 12:59like you're just not ending up with that offensive output that
- 13:02you need. We're big on 0G in general, but
- 13:05definitely not in the. First, one thing with goal is
- 13:07though, is that we've spoken about this multiple times where
- 13:09we don't get too much into it, but they're so volatile that you
- 13:12can be drafting again in the first round because you want
- 13:13stability and then they can just let you down.
- 13:15Like Igor got drafted so high last year and he was about.
- 13:18David, even on his off year he still put up.
- 13:21The only good thing about taking a halibut before Kevin speak is
- 13:25that there's a higher probability he quote shakes that
- 13:27ass. Is a good point.
- 13:30That would be nice so. Make it happen, boys.
- 13:34Yeah, exactly. So most likely, Kevin, you're
- 13:37looking at either taking unless someone falls to you.
- 13:41Assuming they don't, you're looking at taking either JT or
- 13:45Matthews, correct. You voted them over pasta.
- 13:50My decision is between four guys.
- 13:52It's, you know, if Brady falls, obviously he'll be in
- 13:54consideration then Matthews, JT and.
- 13:56Paste falls. He's obviously the one you're
- 13:58taking right over. These guys, I feel like Matthew
- 14:01is the only one that really tempts me because Matthews gonna
- 14:03hit 100 points. Yeah.
- 14:05And you know, we've spoken about it before we between Matthews
- 14:07and Pasta and how like, you know, Matthews has that injury
- 14:09kind of history and why we know possibly delivers every year and
- 14:12whatever. So obviously I still believe
- 14:14that, but it's harder when you're on the clock and you have
- 14:16to make the decision. And Pasta has the best playoff
- 14:18schedule as well, like significantly better than
- 14:20Matthew. Matthew has a 333, passes a 444.
- 14:23So obviously something to take into account.
- 14:25The only thing is the more I hear, the more I look into it,
- 14:27the more I kind of stress about Pasta being on Boston and Boston
- 14:31being bad. And like if he's the only guy
- 14:33that can hit 100 points. I still think us, but I
- 14:36understand. We saw it last year.
- 14:37Yeah, he, he, he came through. Pasta starts the season slow,
- 14:40though. That's true.
- 14:41He it's been a couple years where he has a really slow start
- 14:44but then he just comes out of nowhere and hits like a truck.
- 14:46And honestly it sucks for the slow part, but if he turns it on
- 14:50for the playoffs that's where you want him to turn it on.
- 14:52So The thing is, Matthews could hit over 50 goals.
- 14:55Yeah, he could be the best goal scorer in the league.
- 14:58The blocks and he blogs and the faceoff wins.
- 15:00That's big. And it's not like we're
- 15:02discounting the shots like he's still four shots a game, pretty
- 15:05much 3.9 more like that's his game.
- 15:07He's like right under pasta. Yeah, both of them are elite at
- 15:09that. That's not like a favorite one
- 15:11or the other. So it's like, I'm basically the
- 15:13same stats, except I'm getting extra blocks and extra faceoff
- 15:15wins from Matthews, but he has a worst playoff schedule.
- 15:18Yeah. So honestly, that's going
- 15:20through my mind like and. Where does where do JT and Brady
- 15:24fall in? All this JT is fun, but you
- 15:25think you have to we're all high on JT this year.
- 15:29I think Rangers bounce back and Rangers have an exceptional
- 15:32playoff schedule as well. 444. So that's why he's super, super
- 15:36cool too. People don't have him four point
- 15:38per game. They have him like like slightly
- 15:40under. I think he has 100 point season
- 15:42in his in his bag. Like I think it's it's there.
- 15:45I think he he can hit that if he plays with Panarin.
- 15:47If he's not playing with Panarin, I think his ceiling is
- 15:49lower. It's tough because he's also
- 15:52like a little bit of a Unicorn where hitting face off wins,
- 15:54He's hitting hits. That's such a high level for a
- 15:56centre right wing. He's only downside Pimms shots
- 15:59I. Think yeah, but I think he will
- 16:00shoot more like he was at 1.9 last year.
- 16:02I can see him hit like a 2.3, yeah.
- 16:03And I'd be satisfied with that. Like I feel like for the.
- 16:06Rest of the stuff he brings, that's yeah, that's not the end
- 16:08of the world. I think right now my order is
- 16:11Brady Matthews, JT Pasta, and I think it's just because I'm
- 16:17putting a lot of thought into the Boston regression and Pasta
- 16:20not being able to keep up that level when he has less talent
- 16:23around him. I think that's a really good,
- 16:25really solid order. Yeah, that's scary because I
- 16:28could just do what he did last year.
- 16:29He better pick than most of these guys.
- 16:31So Grady Matthews, I'm comfortable with your one and
- 16:33two, but you know, question and Matthews, honestly, like that's
- 16:35a really solid one. Other than playoff schedule,
- 16:37it's no brainer. I think I have passed above JT.
- 16:42It's it's tough because yeah, Boston's gonna suck and we're
- 16:44very high on the Rangers equally great playoff schedules.
- 16:47It's just I guess for me, a lot of it is also like my roster
- 16:51construction. I'm not the biggest face off win
- 16:52guys, so I don't really. Like you like going points and
- 16:56shots at? First, most of the cat I love
- 16:58the most is shots on goal. I feel like Curly so much to so
- 17:01many of the other categories that a guy like Pasta who's
- 17:04probably like one of the top 2. Best Shooters 3.
- 17:08Top three, He's the guy who I'm super happy to have, especially
- 17:11with playoff schedule. Yes, Boston's gonna suck, but
- 17:14every time we talk about a player who's like a really good
- 17:16player on a garbage team, we're always like, you know, he's
- 17:19despite him being on that garbage team, he's still going
- 17:21to produce. So why is it any different with
- 17:22Pasta? Sure.
- 17:22Thing with pasta. Though it's been good, but not
- 17:24last year. The thing is, is power play.
- 17:26That is a huge one. Do I see the power play getting
- 17:29better than it was last year? No.
- 17:30No. And he was.
- 17:32At 28. .28 power play points and the fact that he was he still
- 17:36managed to hit 1.3 points per game with .28 power play points
- 17:39when he's usually like at a .4 plus.
- 17:41It just makes me think that maybe he stays at a .28 and the
- 17:45difference there comes out of his five on five.
- 17:47Yeah. So maybe instead of 1.29 points
- 17:50per game is at 1.12 points per. Game.
- 17:52Yeah, I could see that. And stays up .28 power play
- 17:55points like that. I feel like it's.
- 17:56Realistic, like one point 12.28 and then you get like four
- 17:59shots. It's safer to pick the other
- 18:01guys because they have the stats to fall back on and they're on
- 18:05better teams. Yeah, right.
- 18:06You're not afraid of the team completely following.
- 18:08Obviously what happened to the Rangers last year could happen
- 18:10this year, like to any other team I guess, but that's very
- 18:13unlikely. Yeah, but Boston's easily the
- 18:16worst of these teams. And we think I mean Brady to me,
- 18:20even if auto was not at like we, we think Ottawa is going to
- 18:23positively regress were all higher on Ottawa this year than
- 18:26last. Year.
- 18:26I mean, would it be without? Because they're not.
- 18:28They're not. Going more of them, just growing
- 18:30and getting better. Fair.
- 18:31Yeah, I guess they're just gonna be mean.
- 18:34He's gonna be a big part of that offence because their main guy
- 18:36and he gets a lot of ice time and.
- 18:39Yeah, exactly. So I think there's a lot.
- 18:42I would have Pasternack the lowest of these three, and I
- 18:45definitely understand why based on history of the four, yeah,
- 18:49sorry, of the four. That being said, I would also
- 18:54say that JT is the obvious third.
- 18:57Like I know you had it. Yeah, so you like, you like
- 19:00Brady Matthews about the two other?
- 19:01Guys, it's just Matthews had this injury issues, right?
- 19:04But if he's healthy? He said he's healthy, obviously
- 19:07always. Gonna say I'm not healthy.
- 19:09If he's healthy, he should be. Should be.
- 19:11Do you think the blocks were? No, he does that.
- 19:14Do you think that's a thing or is?
- 19:15This like a blip on that. Yeah.
- 19:17That's what he wanted. Partner leaving might make him
- 19:20block more. He was another.
- 19:21Defensive. Guy for all forwards.
- 19:23He had the 4th most blocks. Yeah, no, it's unreal.
- 19:25I love Matthews. If he had a better playoff
- 19:28schedule I would think he should the top 4.
- 19:30Yeah, above couch. Honestly, maybe yeah.
- 19:33Even there there are the backups are better than DRY sites.
- 19:37There's no. Questions.
- 19:38I guess he doesn't have the dual eligibility.
- 19:41Our league is obviously we didn't go over to the position,
- 19:44but we started 4 centres for left, wings for right.
- 19:46Wing. No, you till so you're kind of
- 19:48forced into putting you guys into one of those spots.
- 19:50If you have a guy is getting 10 phase one from the left wing
- 19:53position and you get 4 of the pure.
- 19:55Seems like it's just such a big bonus.
- 19:58I don't I don't disagree with you saying I think Brady
- 20:01dropping you would be a huge blessing.
- 20:02I wanted him at 5. Like I said, if I had gotten
- 20:04that pic so so Brady would be sick and then Matthews I think
- 20:07is the is the safe bet. OK, so let's lead into Josh's
- 20:10place. So let's say the order Josh,
- 20:12Josh, Jakey at three, I'm at six, Josh at 9:00.
- 20:16So we're all three picks apart. Let's say hypothetically the
- 20:19draft goes McKinnon, McDavid, Dry, Seidel, Kucherov, Brady,
- 20:25Matthews. That's the first six.
- 20:27Then let's put let's put GT7 Pasta 8.
- 20:33I feel that's a realistic kind of scenario.
- 20:36Maybe JT could fall I. Think JT and passed are both.
- 20:39So let's put let's put pasta at 7:00 and then who are you
- 20:42considering like 8-9? Like I think it might be
- 20:44available to me is in the top 4 pretty much that might be
- 20:48available to me are Pasta, JT Makar and Kaprizov.
- 20:53Those are the four guys that I think two of those 4 will be
- 20:56available to me and I'm going to have to make a decision
- 20:59obviously in your once you once you mentioned Hellebuyck might
- 21:02get taken somewhere which would drop another one to me.
- 21:04Really hoping the hell of a gets picked early so that it pushes
- 21:07one of these other guys down to. Us so let's say that's my 4 to
- 21:09choose from because no one else is dropping and there's no one
- 21:12below them that I choose over those four.
- 21:14Of those four, I think I'm going with pasta first.
- 21:17Actually, that's a tough one. This is where I'm leaning.
- 21:20Right now with the guys that I was talking about and the guys
- 21:23that you're considering, there's only a tier break that makes
- 21:25pasta. You know, he was maybe at the
- 21:26bottom of my tier, but he's at the top of your tier.
- 21:28Yeah, but The thing is I have J and my.
- 21:29OK, I didn't say the four. OK, so I'm looking at pasta.
- 21:31JT did say the reason. I did say my bad.
- 21:35So so yeah. So The thing is, you were also
- 21:36looking at past and JT as the bottom of your three and four.
- 21:39They're my, they're probably 1 and 2, but I'm actually leaning
- 21:41past over JT. Again, it's my preference.
- 21:44It's the shot on the points. And I just, I don't think I can.
- 21:48I don't have it in me to pick a sub three shots on goal guy with
- 21:51my first pick. That's just how I am.
- 21:53I'm a a shot. Even if he's getting you a face
- 21:56off, wins and and hits. Even with that and pins, yeah,
- 22:00The thing is that I'm very comfortable in saying that
- 22:03Pasternak's going to get more points and way more shots.
- 22:06Yep. And power play points I think
- 22:09will be similar. To I would bet on JT getting
- 22:12more PowerPoint. Rangers obviously way better
- 22:13than Boston, yeah, but I think the point is gonna.
- 22:17Be The Rangers could have the best PowerPoint league this
- 22:19year. It's in the realm of.
- 22:20Possibility it should be top. Five top five Boston is going
- 22:23to. Have.
- 22:25A bottom 10. Overall points, Pasta has it and
- 22:27shots is going to be like double the shots.
- 22:30So then obviously the face off wins in his favor and he's got
- 22:34probably 2 two hit more hits than Pasta does.
- 22:37And then the Pimms, I don't think is that huge of a factor
- 22:40and the PowerPoint I don't think is that huge of a factor.
- 22:42So I'm leaning Pasta there again, you ask me tomorrow I
- 22:46might I might go JD, but that's why I'm looking at my number one
- 22:48and two. But there's a possibility both
- 22:50those guys are taken. So that's a really my decision
- 22:52might come down to MacArthur, Presov.
- 22:54And there is something to be said about Makar.
- 22:56And, you know, we start 4D's with no until like the
- 22:59positional advantage of having a guy that does that's it, 90
- 23:02points from the defensives. Yeah.
- 23:03Spot so I'd say the pros of Macara over Kaprizov is Makar is
- 23:08a defenseman much more valuable to take one of those early on.
- 23:11Hmm, he his playoff schedule is better.
- 23:14Power play. His power play is like playing
- 23:16the same or is unreal, especially as a defenseman.
- 23:18Yeah. And I'd say there's all the big
- 23:20question marks around Kaprizov, right?
- 23:22There's what team is he gonna end up on?
- 23:24Is he resigning Minnesota? Is he getting?
- 23:25Traded it would be poetic for you to draft Capris and then he
- 23:27gets treated the Carolina it would be poetic.
- 23:29Upset. Yeah.
- 23:30So that's the big pros of Makar over Kaprizov.
- 23:33The biggest pro of Kaprizov over Makar is that I think Capris.
- 23:38What is the one guy in this that you could take at this point in
- 23:41the draft who could end up with a similar points to McDavid,
- 23:44McKinnon, Kucherov? He could get the.
- 23:46That he could. Last year he was averaging 1.37.
- 23:49Yeah, and. If he would have stayed healthy,
- 23:51he would have. He could have had a massive.
- 23:53Season 1.41 point 5, that's exactly what you're projecting
- 23:55for. The other like top four guys.
- 23:57So his ceiling is so high. His floor is, it's not like low
- 24:01floor, but there's the risk of what team gets traded to.
- 24:04We've seen mid season trades. You know, look at what happened
- 24:07to Ryan when he got traded to Carolina.
- 24:09So there's definitely the worry there.
- 24:11So I don't know. I don't know what I'm going with
- 24:13at this point. But right now my ranking is
- 24:15passed to JT Makar and Capris. Also, so we all believe that cap
- 24:19is gonna get treated. I don't even know.
- 24:21I could see him signing just a ridiculous contract in
- 24:23Minnesota. I still don't think I'm not
- 24:26buying that he hates Minnesota. I think there's a.
- 24:28Chance. I think it's a money thing.
- 24:29If he does stay, which I guess you have to say is technically
- 24:34the highest probability because we don't know where he's going
- 24:36up, whatever, Do you you know this information right now?
- 24:41Like let's say it's a set and something.
- 24:43Do you take him? You take him over Pasternak.
- 24:45Minnesota has a really bad playoff schedule.
- 24:47I mean, really, it's a 333 where is passed as a 444.
- 24:50Yeah, so and they're the same archetype of high shooting
- 24:54volume and high points is going to get more points and
- 24:57PowerPoints in Pasta, but Pasta is going to get more shots and
- 25:00that extra game in the playoffs if each week.
- 25:02So I'm going passed over Kaprizov.
- 25:04The playoff schedule does a lot there.
- 25:06Then the JT and Makar is where it gets murky.
- 25:09Between them, Do you like copper solving those guys?
- 25:11Yeah, exactly. So I'm not sure, but I don't
- 25:15know what you guys. Think the odds for Capri solves
- 25:18landing spots that we just wanna put it out there, you know, top,
- 25:20top Oz right now, Carolina Hurricanes plus 400, then the
- 25:24Detroit Red Wings plus 450, Chicago Blackhawks plus 450, the
- 25:28Wild plus 550. So let's focus on the top four.
- 25:32Like if he lands and you out of all those teams, where would you
- 25:35want? To go again, it was Carolina.
- 25:37Carolina Red Wings, Blackhawks, Wild.
- 25:39I think Blackhawks would be. Yeah, Yeah.
- 25:42That would be nice that. Would be nuts.
- 25:43That's where I would want him. To go.
- 25:45Plus, there's no. Pressure to Would you rather him
- 25:46play? Would you rather go to Chicago
- 25:49or yes, stay in Minnesota? Wild would be more sanity value,
- 25:52you know, you know he's good here.
- 25:54Just the concept of a change equals risk, and it's hard to be
- 25:58much better. Elsewhere than any good point.
- 26:01So it's just fun wise watching wise, yeah.
- 26:04Want them to play with Bidart? Over.
- 26:06I still think he's good, but he has that excitement.
- 26:09But for fantasy purposes, that's where I want to.
- 26:13The one thing is that if he does go to the Blackhawks, I I think
- 26:18that's going to maybe slightly hurt Donato's value, which I
- 26:20would hate, which I would hate, but nothing can hurt.
- 26:25You unless the NATO ends up playing with the both.
- 26:27Of them that would be so sick I could see that that would be
- 26:29really, really fun yeah you've got an interesting decision but
- 26:32the truth is you're ending up with a good.
- 26:33Player yeah, obviously it's good either way, but it's gonna be
- 26:37interesting. It might be interesting to start
- 26:39the draft with the. Defence, it really comes down to
- 26:41how you want to construct a roster.
- 26:42I really wanted like a sick you've seen this year.
- 26:44That's why I'm even considering Brady at three.
- 26:46Yeah, whereas for you, I mean, I told you this off the podcast,
- 26:49but you can do specifically you with how you like to build your
- 26:52points leagues like your points teams feel like with Macar.
- 26:54That would be a really cool. Starting point would be
- 26:57interesting for sure. But yeah, let's move on to where
- 27:00we're at for the second. Round so just the first the
- 27:03decision for your first round pick Tyson could be like whoever
- 27:07you think you might get in second round could affect you
- 27:09pick it the first combined together.
- 27:11So why don't I see some guys I think are going to go between my
- 27:14first and second round pick? So I have #9 which means I also
- 27:17have #20 Yep. So guys that are gonna go
- 27:20between my first and second round pick, I think Hella Buck
- 27:24and Vasilevsky are both. Going to go in between there
- 27:26which I'm super happy. Even auditor might go.
- 27:28That would be crazy. I would love.
- 27:29That we saw that last year in early.
- 27:31Yeah, 100%. So those are the 2-3 goalies
- 27:33might go. Ranting's gonna go.
- 27:35Jack Hughes is gonna go. Crosby.
- 27:37Crosby's gonna go and then that kind of.
- 27:41Cycle. Cycle probably goes as well,
- 27:44Reinhart, probably Forsberg, I think those guys all.
- 27:48Go. How many names do we list?
- 27:50I just listed. Let's say 3 goalies. 7-8, let's
- 27:54say like 8-9 guys, that's about where I am, yeah.
- 27:57So four guys that I think might be available and that I would be
- 28:03looking at, I'm looking at Panarion, Marner, Crosby maybe,
- 28:08but that's unlikely and and Darlene, I think that's the the
- 28:12four guys who are might be available.
- 28:14In money lender. I'm just.
- 28:16No Kyle Connor. I'm not that excited about
- 28:19Nylander this year. Hmm.
- 28:21Maybe it's like we've spoken about with like the name fatigue
- 28:23or something like that. Yeah, no, I would not have had
- 28:27in the. Second round, these other guys.
- 28:29So I'd say I think one of these four guys, I think 2 out of four
- 28:35of these guys is going to come to me and these are the ones I'm
- 28:36most excited about. So yeah, Panera and Mariner,
- 28:39Crosby, Dalene. I think if I take my car in the
- 28:41first, I don't think I'm taking Dolly in the second.
- 28:43I don't think I can go back-to-back defenseman and
- 28:44start off the draft then Crosby would be.
- 28:49If I took Crosby, then I'd have to start caring about face off
- 28:51wins because he can win that category for himself.
- 28:54Yeah, especially if I end up with JT in the 1st and then
- 28:56cross me in the second. All of a sudden I'm one of the
- 28:58best face off win teams in the league.
- 28:59So yeah, that's definitely an adjustment.
- 29:02And then Panarin and Martin are more kind of my speed of the
- 29:05type of teams I like to build where they're very heavy points.
- 29:09My one thing with Marner is the lack of shots is.
- 29:12So that's why my ranking of those four guys is Panarin, then
- 29:16Marner than Crosby. Darlene, I don't know what you
- 29:19guys think or there's anyone else in that area that you think
- 29:22I might. Get having, having Panarin or
- 29:24Marner to pair with your first round pig, I think is like would
- 29:28be a dream scenario for you because you're getting guys in
- 29:30the second round that could top 100 points.
- 29:32Yeah, it's in there. It's in the range of outcomes
- 29:34for them. We saw Panarin hit 120 a few
- 29:36years ago. Exactly.
- 29:37So the fact that you're able to get maybe potentially 2100 point
- 29:40guys on your roster in a 14 team league, like that's insane
- 29:45value. That's what I'm looking at.
- 29:47I do think I'll I go like a a pasta into Panarin then I'll be
- 29:52a bit heavy on the points shots. And on the Russians and on the.
- 29:57Obviously rage beating us. Yeah, so I guess I know passes
- 30:05not Russian. So that would be like that would
- 30:07be heavy on that and light on the back hats.
- 30:09But that's yeah, especially it's only two rounds in.
- 30:12I could definitely pick up more backups guys later.
- 30:14You can't pick. Up you can pick up.
- 30:17Easy. Yeah.
- 30:19So that's what I'm, what I'm leaning at, where I would be
- 30:21excited about parents, my number one, if I can get him at the
- 30:24second. Round I wouldn't consider it
- 30:25Elena, I think parent Panera and Crosby Marner is kind of a good.
- 30:28Crosby is gonna go before, I feel like probably, yeah,
- 30:31probably even more. Anything that could potentially
- 30:33go before. But The thing is one of them.
- 30:36Exactly. I think two of three problem
- 30:38probably don't make it to me, but one of those 3 should.
- 30:40If you have more excited or more apprehensive about picking
- 30:44Panera. So for the stack, yeah, that's
- 30:46definitely interesting. First of all, I have T and
- 30:48Crosby available. I'm snapping that up.
- 30:49But we're assuming Crosby is not unusual.
- 30:51Yeah. Then I think I like the stack.
- 30:53Honestly. What?
- 30:54I'm so high. I think we're all so high on the
- 30:55Rangers. Yeah, they have an unreal
- 30:56playoff schedule, which definitely helps the 444.
- 30:58So yeah, I don't think. And I always love making stacks
- 31:01out of. My top could be fun.
- 31:03It's not necessarily going to even play together, which is
- 31:05nice because like you're. Spreading the risk exactly.
- 31:07But yet they all have the power play, which we think is gonna.
- 31:09Be a good power play, yeah, and. I just talk you into J Miller on
- 31:12one. It's definitely.
- 31:14Possible. It gives you a lot of
- 31:15flexibility. I had I had JTS my number one
- 31:18after pasta right now. Yeah.
- 31:20So I don't think pasta is coming to me.
- 31:22So I think I think I could go JT into Panera.
- 31:24That would be really fun start to the.
- 31:25Draft, yeah. A few things later is me, I'm I
- 31:28pick #23 in the second round. Obviously I'm missing out on all
- 31:32the guys that Josh listed. Most likely.
- 31:34I think the best picks available for my picker.
- 31:37I mean, Darlene could potentially make it to me.
- 31:39I think I'm considering guys like Kyle Connor, probably
- 31:44Nylander is gonna be on the border closer there like Quinn
- 31:47Hughes will be there in ADP. Honestly, I'm not really enticed
- 31:50with any of those guys. I feel there's definitely tear
- 31:52break between where Josh is picking where I'm picking.
- 31:54It's just a few pics later, which is pretty awful.
- 31:56That's great, but I think you're awarded for the tear breaking
- 31:59around one. Yeah.
- 32:01I think I would really like Kyle Connor in a second round, which
- 32:05is a huge flip on what the storyline was last year.
- 32:09I was like Connor Hater. I don't disagree with it though,
- 32:11that would be a great pick, especially for where your spot
- 32:14is That right? You always have to pick for
- 32:15your. Who's on there?
- 32:17Yeah. Would you take?
- 32:18What about celebrity? Is that a consideration for you?
- 32:20For the second round, I just feel like I want somebody that's
- 32:22a little bit more proven. That's fair.
- 32:24So if I can get him in the 3rd, that would be great.
- 32:26I just feel like probably somebody gonna reach for higher
- 32:28than this and. You're not getting him there.
- 32:31If he's there for me, I'm taking him.
- 32:34What do you think about in the second?
- 32:36Probably not. Well, there you go, I.
- 32:38Think someone taking him in late 2nd.
- 32:39Yeah, maybe I don't. Neither of you guys 14 teams
- 32:42like 20. 8 pics that are although like there is Robert
- 32:44Thomas also right who? I'd rather celebrate.
- 32:47I still think he's gonna. Be in our league specific but I
- 32:49think. You guys voted for him to be
- 32:51higher on. The.
- 32:53On our list didn't have exactly same category coverage I will
- 32:58say. OK, sure, I'll cop out answer.
- 33:02Yeah, I, I mean, would you consider Forsberg?
- 33:06Forsberg, he's not falling to me.
- 33:08Yeah, No, there's no way. Denzel maybe like The thing is,
- 33:12there's a significant. Honestly, you wouldn't if you
- 33:15have Kyle Connor there. To me, that's such an.
- 33:17Amazing, really. Kyle Connor is a safe bed for
- 33:19him to be there. I'm on the clock.
- 33:22That's a really good pick. Kyle, Connor, or.
- 33:24And you're starting off with, we said Matthews, Matthews into
- 33:27Connor left wing is a nice way to start it.
- 33:30Yeah, those are two guys I've never had on my team, so it
- 33:32kinda feels a little out of my comfort zone.
- 33:36That's a lead shots. Yeah, great points.
- 33:38I also wanted to focus on the elite shots in the first two
- 33:41rounds, so. So I like that a lot for you.
- 33:43Would you take Stitzel? No, there's no way.
- 33:45No. That's 80 points last year.
- 33:47Pretty. Good.
- 33:47I think I'm more likely to take over.
- 33:49It's all really crazy. Yeah.
- 33:50Interesting. I wouldn't take either in the
- 33:53second. Round.
- 33:53No, obviously not in the second round.
- 33:54I just meant like like in general.
- 33:57Yeah, alright. So Kevin's going Connor, and
- 33:59then who are your backups if Connor gets taken?
- 34:01Nobody I'm gonna tilt. That's Connor an amazing.
- 34:05I think it's Connor or Defenseman I.
- 34:07Was gonna say, what do you take a defenseman?
- 34:09I probably, I probably want to take, you know, beat it here,
- 34:13grabbing and defenseman and take a guy like, you know, Darling or
- 34:16Quinn Hughes or or Evan Bouchard like those guys, if they're
- 34:19still there. Yeah, there's definitely a
- 34:21positional advantage we had in our league that's deep like
- 34:24this, like 14 teams. That means, you know, after.
- 34:27Every 4 defence they. Each exactly, but that's.
- 34:30That's 56 defensemen. Everybody, everybody drops 2
- 34:33defensemen. I was gonna say this.
- 34:34That's already all the popular ones off the board, right?
- 34:37So and how many good power play ones are?
- 34:38There. Exactly.
- 34:39So if you can get 2 good ones on your team then I'd be thrilled.
- 34:44Yeah. Like if Carl Conner's gone, I'm
- 34:46probably going defenseman. Yeah, I think that's the right
- 34:48move based on where your spot is and which defence bin if you
- 34:51have Darlene Hughes and Bouchard on the board.
- 34:53Darlene, in that order. Dalian Hughes, Bouchard, I think
- 34:57nice but dentally asked me in a week, maybe I'll once we start
- 35:00over over Quinn Hughes. But for the moment, I think
- 35:02Darling is a tier above those guys and then I'll take those
- 35:05guys. So there's a couple of
- 35:06interesting options for me if Hughes is.
- 35:08There 3 swats later. Are you talking about Jack
- 35:11Hughes? Jaky.
- 35:12OK. Quinn.
- 35:14So if Quinn's there, that would be really, really nice.
- 35:18Yeah, I think that's a very solid pick.
- 35:20You spoken about like, why is Makar like 100% overused?
- 35:25They're comparable. You know what I mean?
- 35:26Look if they put up the same. Season just taking celebrity in
- 35:28the second. Yeah.
- 35:30That that's my other. Option last year they were
- 35:32comparable and you guys had explained to me why you prefer
- 35:35why you think Macy's more regarded highly, which I think
- 35:38is fair, but Hugh says the ceiling to be as good as.
- 35:40McCarthy exactly. So I think that those are two
- 35:42pretty good options. Also really do like celebrating.
- 35:45I think it's fun and there's a huge upside there Yeah, I think
- 35:50that that's like a pretty standard three.
- 35:52I also really. Like the third one?
- 35:55Are unknown, Omar, Sorry. Quinn Hughes, celebrity and Zach
- 36:00Werenski? No.
- 36:02Oh, I was thinking about. Yeah.
- 36:04So Bouchard's the other kind of option, if I did that also
- 36:07right, drill into Bouchard, Queen Hughes.
- 36:12Bouchard getting that stack. That's like a realistic kind of
- 36:14top three rounds for me, which is.
- 36:15Pretty sad because you flip around how many people are
- 36:17between you and yourself? Only four picks.
- 36:20Yeah, that's close one. Yeah, that's kind of nice.
- 36:23Would you consider goalie? No, not unless.
- 36:27Unless they're all there. What if Igor is there for you in
- 36:29the third round? 3rd rounds, Third round maybe?
- 36:324th or 5th goalie off the board. I can see people letting Igor
- 36:36fall like I can see Blackwood going ahead of.
- 36:38Him I just listened to today was.
- 36:40Fire also something there's guys like Vincent Trocheck Random
- 36:44being so good. For you can't take him here
- 36:46though. It's probably too high.
- 36:48I think his value could be there, yeah.
- 36:50I think you could get him later and you just can't take him over
- 36:53some of the other guys there. Yeah.
- 36:54And I guess I mean Jason Robertson, I think is is being a
- 36:57little bit underappreciated by. Us so as well, but I think it's
- 36:59being properly appreciated by me.
- 37:02Tage be there for. Me page could be there.
- 37:05Yeah, page would be a big one. You think is more of a third
- 37:07round guy? Could be there for me in the
- 37:09third round. Yeah, Sage would be awesome.
- 37:11I'm very tempted by taking. Was gonna say actually he has to
- 37:14get through Kevin to get. To me, yeah.
- 37:15So I doubt. That happens.
- 37:16Yeah, that's fun. And then the dark horse of
- 37:20probably not gonna do this, but I think he's gonna be that good.
- 37:25You're not taking me just. There just there maybe, but I
- 37:29love nature. Tempe, they just OK.
- 37:32I'm going natures. Natures are Denzel natures.
- 37:37Wow. Basically there's like Denzel
- 37:39the amazing Tits playing with Kucherov.
- 37:41Natures is playing with McKinnon. 6% of pencils ice time
- 37:47was with. The higher points upside but
- 37:50cancel shoots. More, who was immune to the rod
- 37:54curse last year. Yeah, that's true.
- 37:55And that's a huge hurdle that could like.
- 37:57And now he's playing on one of the two best fantasy teams.
- 38:00No hurdles on Vegas. What?
- 38:03He said it's a huge hurdle. Yeah.
- 38:08So yeah, it's going to get. Let's say our ideal 1-2.
- 38:12That's possible. Alright, Jake, since your first
- 38:14in the draft, what's? Your gonna go dry saddle Queen
- 38:17Hughes. Wasn't really thinking about it
- 38:19before, but it's really fun. There's a lot of cool.
- 38:21Potential nice one too, yeah. I think for me, ideal 1/2, I
- 38:26mean, it's Kyle Connor, OK, Brady, Kyle Connor.
- 38:30OK, that's sick. I think that's too many left
- 38:33wings. I'm joking.
- 38:36Oh, that's so sick. I think my ideal one too is
- 38:39probably is JT Crosby possible, you think?
- 38:42No chance, Crosby. I think.
- 38:45OK, let's say. I think there's a chance
- 38:46honestly, like you're. I don't know actually, but I
- 38:48think no, probably. Past it's probably unlikely.
- 38:51Let's say pasta Panarin, that's a Panera would be nice.
- 38:54I think that's doable and. J.
- 38:56J. JJ.
- 39:00Really. This is the stack.
- 39:02Damn, it's a little more to think about, yeah.
- 39:07For sure. So thanks to everybody for.
- 39:09Listening, what was yours? I said enjoy Quinn Hughes.
- 39:12Yeah, yeah. Thanks everybody for listening.
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- 39:18Spotify, Apple Podcast, wherever you get your podcasts.
- 39:21The link to all of our social media is in the link tree and
- 39:23the podcast description. The link tree is as Kevin
- 39:26described at the beginning, that blue link where you could find
- 39:29the blue. Until you press it.
- 39:34But yeah, we're new to Discord. We got a nice community over
- 39:37there. So please join the Discord
- 39:38community and you know how happy to answer all your questions
- 39:41there. And you could tell us why we're
- 39:43crazy for our our picks for our top 2 rounds.
- 39:46Yeah. And yeah, it's stay tuned for
- 39:50the next episodes. These are a couple of spicy ones
- 39:52that we've got coming up. Take it away, Ernie.
- 39:56Bound Bound Banger management fantasy hockey podcast woo.
- 40:01Oh, the viewers are not going to like.
- 40:04Sorry for your ears. You're gonna make like their dog
- 40:06bark with that frequency. How did you do that?
- 40:10What an octave.