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Wait... His Name is William Williamson? | Red Dead Redemption | Part 1 · Replay Reviews

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Season 4. It's here. Start of a new game? Start
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of a new game. Start of a new season. Starting
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Leia's favorite series. Yeah. We've waited a
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while to do it, but we're going to do Red Dead
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Redemption. The original. I'm pretty excited
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to do this game with you. And if you don't like
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it, I don't know how we're going to be able to
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continue. At this point, I have no choice if
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I don't like it, so I will learn to like it.
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I will tell you why you're wrong if you don't
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like it. Thank you for coming back for more replay
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reviews. My name is Leah. And my name is Kathy.
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We are two friends who are here to replay, review,
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and analyze your favorite video games. And since
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Kathy has never seen the games before, it helps
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me view them through her fresh eyes, almost like
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I'm discovering them again for the first time.
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We hope it will be a similar experience for you.
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In this episode, we learn that name creativity
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was not a thing in 1911, Jonah's an idiot, and
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booty moments are back. Our season one -ers will
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know what we mean. I don't know. I'm trying to
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think of what's appropriate to say. You're just
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trying to think of where was the booty moment
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that you missed. Okay, new thing we're kind of
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doing. It's not that big of a new thing. But
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just a little bit of introduction to the game
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we're playing. There's not much for this one
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other than it takes place in 1911 and it's one
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of my favorites. I've 100 % completed it like
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three times. So I've seen this one probably more
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than any of the other ones we've done. But there's
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still quite a bit I don't know about it because
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it's very deep. There's something about the introduction
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and the style that reminds me a lot about mafia
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usually our other games there can be multiple
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main characters but this one is similar to just
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off the top of my head i can think of is wolf
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among us and mafia where there's one main hero
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and we follow his story also forgot to mention
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it came out in 2010 so a bit of an older one
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which is sad because 2010 does not feel that
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long ago but it was it's 15 years ago Should
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we start and discuss the first scene of this
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game? Mm -hmm. So, we see a man. He kind of stands
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out. He's being led by two other men in suits
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to a train where he gets on alone. The first
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thing I noted was just the contrast between we'll
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learn soon his name is John versus everyone else.
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Everyone's in suits, dresses. There's cars where
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he's clearly the kind of guy that still rides
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a horse. We're kind of seeing the old versus
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the new. Everything around him is newer than
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he is. Or he appears to be. Yet of everyone there
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on the train, he seems to have the most class
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in terms of not being too vocal to... Try not
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to say too Karen about it. He's just minding
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his own business. And he demonstrates way more
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grace than... what we see of the ladies behind
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him and the man in front of him. He's keeping
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his thoughts to himself. As we're getting on
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the train, we walk past a newspaper boy, and
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he yells, first, health benefits of smoking,
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but then also Bill Williamson's gang terrorizes.
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He listens to the conversations of other travelers,
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silently reacting, as you were saying. The one
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note that I made out of all these conversations
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that we eavesdrop to is the, I think it's a father
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and daughter talking about basically like right
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and wrong, that kind of thing. And she says to
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him, Sometimes I find it impossible to make the
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distinction between a loving act and a hateful
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one. I mean, they often seem to be the same thing.
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Maybe we'll talk about this quote in the summary.
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But I wanted to note We see John reacting to
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everyone's conversations just in his facial expressions.
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And this is the first time where he kind of does
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a, well, you know, like she's got a point. Yeah.
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In this train, it seems like everyone thinks
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that they're high class and they're obviously
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benefiting from whatever is happening in this
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town. You're happy and you call it a good deed
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when it benefits you. Yet you need someone else
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to do the dirty work and you're going to criticize
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them for it. We do soon pull up to Armadillo.
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This is where John departs and heads to the saloon.
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On the way. And it's things like this that I
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just absolutely love about this game. A drunk
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man leaves the saloon as John is heading in.
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And he just stumbles and face plants. Walking
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into the saloon. I really like how it feels like
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those movie scenes that are very generic, but
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those Westerns where it's like, you know that
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song that they always play and they can hear
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a hawk in the background? I just feel like the
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game, the aesthetic is really well done in the
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scene. Oh, yeah. That's something I think we'll
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comment on a lot throughout this game. But yes,
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this is when we learn that his name is John Marston
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when someone calls out to him. This man's name
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was Jake. So he's hired by whoever sent Jon,
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who Jon is not fond of, to guide him. I don't
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think we ever see this man ever again in the
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game. And I don't know why we needed him to direct
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us such a short distance in reactions to him
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first. No, I was just kind of curious. You already
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answered my question. I was going to say that,
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like, what's up with him? Do we need to worry
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about him? Yeah, he's not important, but we do
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learn some things about Jon in talking to him,
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which might be the purpose of that character.
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So they head out, but the drunk guy is still
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on the ground when they leave. I wanted to see
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him laying face -planted in a pile of his own
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vomit. I feel like that would have made the game
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better. Yeah. You can vomit in the second game.
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Oh. Anyway, so Jake takes us to Fort Mercer.
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And on the ride there, we learn that John is
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looking for an old friend, he says. But we ain't
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been friends for a long time. We also learn that
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John is married when Jake is discussing prostitutes.
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And Jake says, ain't we all? Just the way he
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says it is so off -putting. Yeah. There's a great
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baseline. The expectation is you do better than
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that kind of guy. Yeah. I wanted him to die immediately.
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Oh. Can you shoot him? Probably. You might fail
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the mission, though. I've never tried it. And
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one of my favorite lines, maybe in the game,
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I'll probably say that a lot, but he says, you
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ain't very talkative, are you, to John? And John
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just goes, no! Well, would have been better if
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John just grunted, uh. I think we can all relate
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a lot to John sometimes. He's a very real character.
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I wish he did more eye -rolling on the train.
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So we arrive at Fort Mercer, where Jake informs
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us a gang took over, and then he leaves. Coward
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that he is. Probably to go back to the prostitute
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he was heckling. Also, you mentioned this, but
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we skipped over it. When John meets up with him.
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He pushes a prostitute off of him. But he pushes
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her by her boobs. Her chest. So unnecessary.
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Let's shoot him. In the game. Well. We're not
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murderers in real life. If there's a sound bite
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of just me going, let's shoot him. Not physically,
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but mentally. I think we've all killed somebody
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mentally. Should have seen us on the drive today.
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Getting back on track, John approaches the fort
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and calls out for Bill Williamson. And this is
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where we need to pause. I've played this game
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a lot. I've known for a long time that this character's
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name is Bill Williamson. But for some reason,
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it took until now to come to this realization.
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So, Kathy, can you tell me, what is Bill short
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for? William. right his name is william williamson
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i was wondering that too i thought that it's
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one of those situations where you know how like
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guys like to call each other by their last names
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so it's like williamson and they short that for
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william and you short it for even more so it's
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bill so it almost seems like bill is his nickname
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but i don't know if people are stupid enough
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to say william williamson my son's dad was william
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williamson senior I'll have to dig into the lore
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to find out if that's a nickname or not. But
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if his parents named him William Williamson,
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no wonder he joined a gang. That's just, that's
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cruel. Any William Williamson's out there in
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real life? Do you go by Bill? Yeah. Let us know.
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Any other reactions to this scene, their dialogue?
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Well, my next note was that how did Bill... Or
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William. How did he know that John was... Do
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you think that Bill knew that John was coming
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after him? And that's why he was just so ready
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by the gates to respond? Not necessarily. It
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sounds like his gang is just hiding out there.
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They probably just have scouts. People posted
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by the gates. That would be my guess. But it's
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possible. I don't know. Okay, so there's a few
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things that we learn from this conversation between
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them. John says, we was as brothers once. Bill,
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please, they want to kill us all. I can help
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you. And Bill responds, you never tried to save
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me before. You only seem to save yourself. Thoughts?
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What happened? They were once bros, and now...
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What happened? Yeah, I mean, they obviously had
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something going on. I'm curious if John's wife
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got in the middle of things and he had to choose
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between his brother, Bill, or his wife, whatever
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her name is. I'm also curious if he's being framed
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for something that he didn't do and then Bill
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mistook it, thinking that, oh, John betrayed
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me, but no, John just got framed. It does seem
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like there's a disconnect between their viewpoints.
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Because you would think that if John knew that
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Bill hated him, he wouldn't be pleading his case
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like that. He also mentions someone named Dutch.
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He says, now I'm in charge, no more Dutch and
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no more you. So we're learning a little bit more
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about the history of all these characters. The
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exchange does end in John getting shot. And he's
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just laid out on the ground until someone spots
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him and loads him into their wagon. And we also
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saw this woman on the train. I do have some questions.
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So as soon as John is shot, he's laying there.
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I think it's a hawk. I'm not a good bird person,
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but there's some kind of bird just kind of flying
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around him. So is there some kind of symbology
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around that? Yeah, I think it's a vulture. I
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think it's symbolizing that he's just, he's almost
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dead. Okay. I was like, it's a hawk. Dead man.
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Well, it's not really walking. Dead man laying.
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John wakes up some time later where a woman whose
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name is Bonnie informs him that they spent $15
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to save his life and then asks him why he was
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being stupid. I'm just wondering, how much is
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$15 in today's money? Because she makes it sound
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like a big deal. So I'm wondering, is it a big
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deal or is it that she wants to keep him here?
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Let's find out. It would be about $501 today.
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Oh, okay. So it's not pocket change, but it's
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not, you know, ranch ending. Yeah. Anyway, in
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response to her asking why he was being stupid,
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he says, I was trying to give Mr. Williamson
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a chance for old time's sake. Now I'm going to
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take my time and go after him the less kind way.
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He should have done the less kind way to begin
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with. Yeah, he almost died. Yeah. So far, I like
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Bonnie. I feel like she's going to be a great,
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strong female. So she gives me some Sarah vibes
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from Mafia. But I'm also worried that they're
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just going to make her character go downhill.
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Yeah, we like her right now, right? She seems
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capable. She's got a sense of humor. She saved
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John. She also pretty much runs a ranch. And
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she says that John can work off the $15 debt
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by helping out. She gives him a tour before he
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rests, and then sometime later she asks him to
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help keep watch for wrestlers. And I have to
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pull it up. There's a moment where I think my
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horse gets mad at me, and it tries to punch me
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with its head. So let me pull it up. Here we
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go. What'd you do to the horse? We got so mad
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at me. I knew you were about to shoot the bunnies,
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Leah. That's why. I don't have an option. The
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game cannot progress. The poor things. Well,
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they shouldn't have been there. Yeah, but they're
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hungry. The deeper question. How do you feel
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about shooting coyotes if they're killing chickens?
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I feel like there's a better way of getting rid
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of them than to shoot them. I thought that was
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going to be a bigger ethical question for you,
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but it wasn't. Anyway, after our horse tries
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to punch us, Bonnie glitches. It's really awkward.
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Pull it together, Bonnie. I think we're going
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to track glitches in this game because they're
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funny. And then after patrolling the ranch, John
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heads to bed. And that's the end of scene one.
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I also want to mention how much our main character,
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John, looks like Bigby Wolf from The Wolf Among
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Us. And you don't know if it's like... The longish
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brown hair or the way they carry themselves are
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the way they don't like talking. There's just
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something about it. Do you see the ties between
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those two? I do. I get it. And ironically enough,
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I think this is the last one. But remember back
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in Wolf Among Us when I said all my favorite
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characters, or maybe it was even Yakuza 0, all
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my favorite characters have random ties to dogs.
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It was Majima. It was Bigby. It was Connor. John
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is one of them because he got those scars from
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wolves. Oh, okay. It's the next day. John heads
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to Bonnie's house where she asks him about his
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connection to Bill. She's a little bit nosy,
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but I think it's fair to ask these questions
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when you took this guy in, right? He could be
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dangerous messing around with Bill. You don't
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know. John's response to her asking, though,
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is I don't mind you asking if you don't mind
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me not telling. Fair. But it seems like the truth
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is dangerous. Any reactions to that? He's just
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trying to get in and get out of the situation
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of just take care of Bill and just leave. Because
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the more people know about him, the less he's
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able to just take care of things without people
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realizing he's there. But that's such a great
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response to when people say, do you mind me asking
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instead of just saying no? His one -liners are
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legendary. Bonnie does take slight offense, I
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think, during the exchange, and so she challenges
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John to a race. I don't know if she just took
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offense to it or if she's just wanting to continue
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to flirt. And it's like a bunch of weird one
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-liners of them trying to crush on each other
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and just flirt, but it's not landing well. Are
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you talking about during the race? Yeah, during
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the race. Okay, I think that that might be another
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glitch because the controls for the whores. They
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don't turn on a dime. It takes a minute to get
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used to them, but thankfully I've played it so
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many times. So I think they expect you to be
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closer to Bonnie, and so they're just having
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John let out these one -liners, and he just keeps
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rattling them up, just rapid -fire one -liners,
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and Bonnie doesn't respond at all. Yeah. And
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it's really funny. It's really awkward. How you
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doing back there? I bet you're starting to regret
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your brave words, Miss McFarlane. Should I wait
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for you to catch up? Are you saving the best
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for last? And then at some point Bonnie catches
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up and she does one and it's like something stupid
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like, ain't this better than milking cows? This
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sure beats milking cows! Alright, so after the
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race, Bonnie suggests that John visit the marshal.
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We need to pause for a minute. The out -of -context
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summary about name creativity? Some of that was
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about William Williamson. But also, we have John
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Marston. On the train, they referenced Nate Johns.
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And now we have Marshall Johnson? A lot of John
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-ja -ja sounds. What is this? John then meets
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back up with Bonnie, who asks him to accompany
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her to Armadillo. And they chat on the way. We
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learn that he's a farmer. His old co -workers,
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in quotes, wanted to go to New Austin, the last
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true outlaw country. What do you think about
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them wanting to go to outlaw country? What does
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that say about them? I think they're just avoiding
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civilization. The train conversation is saying
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that there's obviously a bunch of elitists and
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people bringing in wealth and not liking how
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people live. And they know that their city or
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their town is changing so rapidly. They probably
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just want to continue to live like savages according
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to what the elitists were saying. So Bonnie goes
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about her errands. John goes to check in with
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the marshal. This is where we meet Jonah, the
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idiot. And then eventually the marshal will walk
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in. And John says, I'm here to capture or kill
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Bill Williamson. Can you help me? The marshal
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is hesitant, but they make a deal. John will
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help him deal with the local gang in exchange
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for his help with Williamson. Reactions? Do you
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like the Marshall character? I do. He seems like
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a pretty straightforward, honest guy who just
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really wants to do his community good. It seems
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like it's him against the world. And so he's
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happy to have someone else similar to him, like
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John, help him out because it feels like his
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staff are pretty... Uh, not really competent?
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Yeah, it does. I don't remember who calls who
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a dickhead, but was that, like, did we use that
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term back in 1911? I don't think so. Let's see.
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Did people say dickhead in 1911? Okay, so ironically,
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this I can only find one date. as to when it
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might have originated. So it may not be true.
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I'm not going to research this for much longer.
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But ironically, the year is 1969. So we're just
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going to leave that there. We all like a good
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scream that gets cut off too early, right? We
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all like that. Well, we get one at 42 .28. So
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let me just go ahead and share this with you.
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I wrote a note saying that we really like the
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insult, dumb rat bastard. I just don't, I can't
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remember in the context of how it was used, if
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it was referring to that gang or if it's just
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a general term, but I think it's an insult I'm
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going to use moving forward. Yes. It was when
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they follow one of the gang members out of, he's
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walking out of the saloon and they spot him and
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the Marsha goes, there's a dumb rat bastard now.
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And just for some reason, the combination of
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adding dumb into rat bastard, like, it just,
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it's just so insulting for some reason. Maybe
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instead of mother****s in this game, they should
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just be dumb rat bastards. Yeah. Instead. So
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after dealing with this gang, capturing who they
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need to capture, John meets back up with the
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marshal, where they're interrupted by one of
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his deputies, I think, Eli, who's just as stupid
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as Jonah. He says that he spotted rustlers and
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John agrees to help in exchange for help with
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Bill. They keep doing that. Like, okay, help
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me with Bill. Like, didn't we already agree that
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anything that John is going to help with, the
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sheriff is already like in agreement that I'm
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going to help you with Bill. So you don't need
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to keep feeling like you're obligated. So maybe
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it's just me, but it seems kind of unnecessary.
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Like, just do it. I think in this context, it
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was. agreed upon it was the one i'm gonna help
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you with this gang and then you'll help me like
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the one help so i think that's why he's leveraging
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it again but i also think that john just kind
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of likes doing this if we're being honest he
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does i think he kind of likes it on the way to
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deal with the wrestlers john is grilled about
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his connection to the government he says about
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working for them with them it was made impossible
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for me not to i don't know what role the government
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will play in it because it also seems like the
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marshal isn't really part of like a government
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agency we've only really heard a couple mentions
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at this point all we really know is that the
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marshal received a telegram from blackwater and
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he references that it was from the government
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so there's some government agency in blackwater
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that controlling John, I guess. Because it seems
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like he's here against his will. Also, his insults
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are just too good when Jonah's kind of pressing
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him, talking shit. Listen to your boss, Jonah.
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There's a good boy. Otherwise, I'll put a hole
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in your hillbilly head and watch your tiny brain
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drain out. It's like, again, adding tiny to it.
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It's like just adding dumb to dumb right bastard,
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adding tiny to this. It just elevates the insult.
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I like that insult, but I can't ever see myself
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using that in public, so I'm going to start tracking
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pretty feasible insults that we can start using.
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Yeah, not many opportunities to watch your brain
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drain out, huh? I sounded disappointed when I
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said that. That's a little messed up. Okay, after
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handling the rustlers and fraying their ranch
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hands, Eli mentions someone named Wes Dickens
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is missing. The marshal's reaction, at first
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he's like, who the hell is he talking about?
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Then he goes, oh, the narcotic and bat piss salesman.
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Oh, so blunt. Yeah. He just said it so easily.
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It's great. He says it like it's a fact. Right,
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exactly. So moving on to scene three, John tracks
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down this missing Wes Dickens. He's stranded
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on the side of the road, and he helps him into
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his stagecoach. Okay, Kathy, this is it. We get
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a TBM. Total booty moment. We've had ABMs, the
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almost booty moment. We've had FBMs, the full
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booty moment. This is a tangible booty moment.
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Touchable. Yeah. John pushes Wes Dickens' ass
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to get him up into the wagon. Do we actually
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see it? Show it, show it, show it. I'll pull
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it up. First BM. First booty moment in, like,
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two seasons. Oh, man. It's a touchable booty
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moment. Thoughts on Wes Dickens? He seems very
25:30
dramatic. Hold on, let me finish this piece.
25:34
Bean. This piece of bean is a line I've never
25:42
heard in my life, and I don't think I'll ever
25:44
hear it again. Let me finish this piece of bean.
25:49
I wasn't thinking clearly. I'm obviously not
25:55
caffeinated enough, so I'm eating espresso beans.
26:01
portion of an espresso bean left so I'm like
26:03
this piece of and I was chewing so I couldn't
26:07
even say the word espresso well but the thing
26:09
is it makes sense knowing it's an espresso like
26:12
travel powered espresso bean but that's the only
26:14
context in when a bean is in a piece you know
26:17
what I mean my gosh sorry what did I even ask
26:24
you oh what reactions I feel like he's a scammer
26:31
But because John saved him, it's foreshadowing
26:36
something that maybe he'll come in handy that
26:40
they'll need to scam Bill. Dickens is the perfect
26:43
person to pretty much be a distraction so John
26:47
can do whatever he needs. John drives his wagon
26:50
to town and on the way it appears that Wes Dickens
26:54
has heard of John somehow. I guess word travels
26:57
fast. But I also feel like Wes Dickens would
26:59
be that one person who knows a little bit on
27:03
everyone. We learn he travels around quite a
27:07
bit. Yeah. And he also seems like the personality
27:10
to strike up conversations with anyone and get
27:12
small pieces of intel. We make it safely to Armadillo
27:16
where John leaves Wes Dickens with the doctor
27:19
to heal. After this, John checks back in with
27:22
Bonnie. Their back and forth is pretty good.
27:25
I like these characters. They have good chemistry,
27:28
but it's pretty obvious that Bonnie is flirting
27:31
and John is not. I don't know if that's how you
27:35
feel. Yeah, I get kind of uncomfortable because
27:39
soon we learn that I don't know if he's still
27:42
married or he was married or if he's divorced.
27:46
I'm not sure what the context is, but I definitely
27:50
get the vibe that she's flirting and then he
27:52
isn't really. He's doing the polite brush off.
27:58
Yes, but he's also not obvious enough to pretty
28:01
much say that, no, I'm not interested. So he
28:03
leaves her hanging, and I feel like that's a
28:05
bit unfair. Oddly enough, though, this is when
28:08
he comes clean a bit about some things. He says
28:12
that he is married. He has a son. He had a daughter,
28:15
but she died. He strived with a gang. He says
28:18
Bill Williamson was in that gang. If he does
28:20
not capture him, his family will be in danger.
28:23
The leader, he says, was a great man in a way.
28:26
It sounds like he helped him learn how to read.
28:28
He's been trying to put that life behind him.
28:31
Yeah, multiple questions. But it could be one
28:34
of those situations where the video game just
28:36
drops this nugget and never talks about it again.
28:39
So he says about his mother was a prostitute.
28:43
And then he says, my father was one of her, I
28:46
don't know. You could say he was one of her Johns,
28:49
right? And so I'm kind of like, is that how he
28:53
got his name? Is that why they named him John
28:58
at the orphanage? Or John Doe? I like mine better.
29:02
Yeah. I wonder if the orphanage knew what his
29:07
mother's occupation was. Yeah. Oh, it was a prostitute's
29:12
son? Well, that means John is the name. Like,
29:14
they just have categories. Or it could be like,
29:17
oh, it was William's son? Maybe he'll be... Bill,
29:21
spice it up. Oh, dear. Anyway, after this very
29:27
deep conversation, John herds some cattle for
29:30
Bonnie. There's absolutely, like, no transition.
29:34
They just move into this after this really intense
29:37
conversation. I hate cows after playing this
29:44
game. There's too many cow missions. I hate them.
29:49
Any notes on the cows? I mean, the good thing
29:51
is you like real cows. The cows that we drive
29:54
by. Oh, yeah. That's a cool cow. That's like
29:57
a not a normal cow, though. Yeah. That's a cool
29:59
cow. The drippy cow, too. He's got cute little
30:03
dangly ears. Anyway. The cow thing is pretty
30:08
pointless, though. I don't understand why we
30:10
have to keep going on missions that aren't moving
30:12
the story forward. It's just to pay off the debt.
30:16
We at least have the reason for doing it, but
30:18
it doesn't feel like we get a lot out of it as
30:22
the player. This is not even the worst cow mission,
30:25
though. There will be a worse one. So, some time
30:29
later, continuing to work off his debt to Bonnie,
30:32
John heads to her house again to be greeted not
30:34
only by her, but also her father, Drew. They
30:37
chat and then leave to go break some wild horses.
30:40
Any reactions to Drew or this conversation? Why
30:44
do we care about him? I don't know, but he looks...
30:47
He looks okay. We were talking about it when
30:52
we were watching it together. I'm like, he doesn't
30:53
look like a real person. He looks weirder than
30:56
the rest, and I just figured out what he looks
30:57
like. What? He looks like the Lorax. Oh! Dude,
31:04
what if this is some kind of Lorax remake? Which,
31:08
I usually don't know movies at all, but this
31:10
is one that we had to watch for school. So I
31:12
have seen this one. I think we just need to spray
31:16
paint him a bit orange. You're way too happy
31:23
about this. Look at the comparison. The Lorax.
31:30
Drew McFarlane. It's that beard. Sorry, did you
31:36
have any more notes on him? No, I just, that's
31:40
it for my scene. Same. They break some horses.
31:44
Cool. John gets a stallion out of it. Nice. Moving
31:49
on to the next scene. John catches up with a
31:53
healed Wes Dickens who convinces him to help
31:55
sell his tonic. He's a little misleading about
31:58
it. This chapter is really just teaching us how
32:00
to use Deadeye, which I don't use very often.
32:02
I don't know why. But they swindle a crowd at
32:05
Ridgewood Farm. Wes Dickens is not so eager to
32:09
let John go after how... successfully swindled
32:12
everybody. He proposes that he go see his curious
32:16
friend, Seth, because the two of them can gain
32:20
access to Fort Mercer. Why did he need to go
32:24
with Dickens? And why did he go along with pretty
32:29
much just Grifter? Like, he knows that his ability
32:32
to shoot has nothing to do with the tonic. Yeah,
32:34
he's okay with scamming people's money. And it's
32:38
not like there was an outright agreement saying
32:39
that, like, hey, I actually know a lot about
32:41
Bill. Help me and I'll help you. It's not really
32:45
that kind of situation. So I'm confused. John
32:50
is assuming that he's going to help him because
32:52
he saved his life or whatever. But I do feel
32:55
like John is a little bit, despite everything
32:58
he's been through, he's a little too trusting
33:00
of people. People take advantage of him a little
33:04
bit in this game especially. He's very naive.
33:08
he's trying too hard to not be what he needs
33:11
to be for this this task that he has set upon
33:16
him because he's trying to not be that person
33:18
anymore but he really just needs to be that person
33:20
for this we might need to shuffle this around
33:23
but i was going to say that during the scene
33:25
you driving Those are some serious, rough speed
33:30
bumps that we hit the carriage. And I know that
33:32
it's not on you. It's the rocks and it's the
33:35
horse. And I understand that. I just... And then
33:38
seconds later, you hit a second one. That was
33:40
just so, like, wow, that we cracked up watching
33:44
this together. The horse, like, does not turn
33:47
on a dime. The wagon turns on a nickel. Uh -huh.
33:51
But it's so much fun. And Mafia and... sleeping
33:55
dogs, the driving mechanics are difficult, but
33:58
they're kind of frustrating. In this game, they're
34:00
difficult, but it's funny. So it makes up for
34:04
it. Also, somehow they've managed to give so
34:09
much atmosphere to this game, especially at nighttime.
34:13
I don't know. The game feels just so good. I
34:18
don't know how to describe it. Like when we pull
34:19
up to the church where we find Seth. There's
34:22
just something about this game that does atmosphere
34:24
so well. The introduction, the first two parts,
34:28
it's just at noon or sunset, you feel so much
34:34
more engaged in the game because the environment
34:37
really sets the tone and it sets the scene. There's
34:41
just something about it. You don't mind just
34:43
wasting five hours playing this game. Well, John
34:48
finds Seth, who is indeed rather odd. And a grave
34:51
robber, it appears. That's putting it lightly.
34:55
He looks... Like, I'm not trying to stereotype
34:58
what meth heads look like, but if I imagine I
35:02
came across one that needed some mental assistance,
35:07
he kind of fits the picture. Yeah. Also, he and
35:13
the deputies, especially Jonah... Why do they
35:17
kind of sound like VeggieTales characters? Oh,
35:20
yeah. They truly do. Where's my hairbrush? Where
35:25
is my hairbrush? Where is my hairbrush? Like,
35:28
that's how the deputy talks. Anyway, so Seth
35:33
is going on and on. He's kind of squirrely. And
35:36
he's going on and on about his partner stealing
35:38
half of his map. We don't know what he's talking
35:40
about. John is like, what are you talking about?
35:46
Seth goes, my partner, my boy, my man, Moses
35:49
IV. I love the way that John talks. I never get
35:54
over it. He just goes, and what map is that then?
35:57
Like, he's just trying so hard with Seth. And
36:01
it's not going well. Yeah. And Seth really likes
36:06
to get into his personal space. Seth is... Seth
36:11
is Seth. Yeah. Also, poor Josephine Bird. That's
36:17
the woman whose grave that he's currently in.
36:21
She didn't deserve this. It's a mix between now
36:26
and a later scene, but what he does with the
36:31
bodies, I just get so uncomfortable. I don't
36:37
like what he's doing with them. Nobody does.
36:40
Nobody should. Speaking of that, okay, well,
36:42
real quick, John offers to help get his map back
36:45
from Moses if he'll help him. And then they ride
36:49
off together to go find Moses. And building off
36:52
of what you just said, it's weird. Like, he's
36:54
weird, and what he does is nasty. But how is
36:57
some of what he says kind of decent? Hold on
37:03
before you respond, because it sounds weird.
37:05
But he's talking about, like, Being there for
37:07
the dead. I talk to them long after everyone
37:09
else has forgotten them. I tell them it's okay
37:12
to be scared and all that kind of thing. I don't
37:15
feel like I should feel like that's endearing,
37:17
but it kind of is. In a really messed up kind
37:20
of way. Okay, I have to disagree with you because
37:24
he calls them sleeping beauties and then he says,
37:27
I imagine myself doing all kinds of unpleasant
37:30
things to his corpse. That's just Moses, though.
37:34
Who wronged him. Yeah, well... Let me put it
37:38
this way. It doesn't justify it, but it justifies
37:43
it more than I thought was possible. Okay, I
37:46
can see it. I wouldn't want my dead body around
37:49
him. No. But I can see where he's going with
37:53
it. And I can see how unpleasant it could be.
37:59
Unpleasant for Moses. I don't know. We gotta
38:05
move on. To give you some comfort, though, about
38:09
my perspective on this, my next note is, Seth
38:12
is a complete nutcake. Yeah. So don't worry.
38:16
But it sounds like he has worked for Williamson
38:19
and his gang, so now we know what his connection
38:22
is and how he can help with John. I wrote a note
38:30
and I don't know what it's in reference to, but
38:32
it's, how the f*** is this guy alive? Oh, because
38:35
he's like, I haven't showered in a month and
38:37
all this stuff. Anything before we get to Moses?
38:42
No. So they find Moses. They scare the location
38:45
of the map out of him. And that's the end of
38:48
the scene. Any other notes on scene four? No.
38:53
Okay, then. Final scene of part one. Back at
38:56
the sheriff's office, Marshal Johnson convinces
38:59
John to help him deal with some bandits that
39:01
are terrorizing the locals. And he at some point
39:04
says, we got a fellow robbing graves, too. Hmm.
39:08
Hmm. Wonder who that could be. Wonder if John
39:12
knows anything about that. They chase bandits
39:16
off of Ridgewood Farm. As they're tailing some
39:20
of them, they run into Bill, and a fight breaks
39:23
out. And after the fighting, they've captured
39:26
Norman Deak. The marshal says he can help them
39:29
get to Bill. So, running into Bill's gang, do
39:33
you think that Bill is now starting to hunt John?
39:36
Or was it just a coincidence that his gang was
39:40
there just doing normal gang stuff? My thought
39:44
is, yeah, he's doing normal gang stuff. But he
39:48
definitely knows that John is after him. Although,
39:51
did he know he was alive? I mean, they probably
39:53
saw the body being dragged off by Bonnie. Yeah.
39:56
Assuming they saw that and he knows John is alive,
39:59
I would say... Yes, he's doing just gang stuff,
40:01
but he's also probably doing it a little bit
40:04
to spite John. So then we go back to Seth. John
40:11
asks if he's ready to help. He says, not quite.
40:14
Seth is now on to some Aiden O 'Leary guy who's,
40:18
of course, dead. And whatever connection he has
40:20
to Seth's treasure that he's after. This is maybe
40:26
my favorite joke in the game. And I actually
40:29
mean that. It's not like this is my favorite
40:31
line where I say that about everything. He doesn't
40:33
really like this guy, right? This Aiden O 'Leary
40:35
guy. And he says, they say he laid with his sister.
40:39
And then we see John's face. He's like, oh, that's
40:42
messed up, right? But then Seth comes back with,
40:45
I don't like women, partner. And so he's not
40:51
offended that he slept with his sister. He's
40:53
just offended that he slept with a woman. I mean,
40:57
we also. Find out that Seth probably has mommy
41:02
issues. It's either he has mommy issues or he
41:06
has issues with women. Or maybe he's gay. I don't
41:11
know. All of the above. And then, okay, so Seth
41:17
has dug up some bodies and loaded them into a
41:19
wagon. I don't know how he has the strength to
41:21
do that, but good on him. They need to leave
41:25
to take them to a secluded spot. So he can search
41:28
the bodies because he says other people are after
41:30
them. Is he searching the body for the map or
41:34
is he searching the body to fulfill some kind
41:37
of desire he has? I think it's both. I think
41:41
he's searching for the map, which he does miraculously
41:43
find. But he's enjoying it a bit too much, which
41:46
we hear him say things like, who's got a kiss
41:48
for Seth? And there's multiple times when John's
41:51
like, are you talking to me? And he's like, no.
41:54
I know. He's like, I heard you say something.
41:57
And he's just talking lovingly to the dead bodies.
42:01
Yeah. It's disgusting. But then when he's done
42:05
searching one of them, he just tosses them out
42:07
of the back of the wagon. And he even says, done
42:10
with this one. Which is a contrast to him earlier
42:14
saying that, like, I still remember these dead
42:17
people and I still talk to them. And so I'm better
42:19
than most people. And then he also is the same
42:22
person who tosses the dead bodies out. Exactly.
42:26
Unhinged, unbalanced, real nasty. How do your
42:30
hands even get like that, man? You can never
42:32
get all that dirt off. He probably enjoys licking
42:35
his own fingers. Okay. So the map says that Seth
42:41
will need to go to Tumbleweed, which is where
42:43
they're heading anyway. So John drops him off
42:45
there. And that's the end of the gameplay. I...
42:50
don't know why... I feel like Seth's character
42:54
adds a lot to the game, but it just made me so
42:58
uncomfortable every time he was in the scene
43:00
because he would lean so close into John's personal
43:04
space or the equivalent to the camera where I
43:08
feel like he's just leaning too close to the
43:10
game and I'm just leaning back. Yeah. That was
43:14
like me playing the impatient in VR. Yeah. I
43:17
leaned back so far I hit my head on the wall.
43:22
But yeah, he's so uncomfortable and you can just
43:24
you can smell him through the screen. That was
43:29
the end of part one. Any reactions to this game?
43:32
I think this one is a bit more of your kind of
43:34
like classic mainline game where there's some
43:37
goofier stuff like this just for the enjoyment
43:40
of the player. And it's not as much of a just
43:44
full on dramatic gameplay. I like how it's still
43:48
a bit lighthearted. I like John's character a
43:51
lot. And we'll see. We'll see if I'll continue
43:55
to like Bonnie or if they're going to just ruin
43:58
her character. I'm excited to see how you like
44:00
the rest of this game. And oh, also, just to
44:04
mention for the people that know the game, there's
44:06
Stranger Missions kind of like sub stories in
44:08
Yakuza. I left all of them out except for one
44:12
because it's very notorious. It's a big part
44:14
of this game. So I left those in. I think there's
44:18
maybe the first one in the next episode, so you'll
44:21
know what I'm talking about soon, Kathy, but
44:22
had to leave it in. Sounds good. With that, thank
44:28
you for listening to our first episode of Season
44:31
4. Hopefully we weren't too rusty. Episode 1
44:36
of Season 4, done. Yes. Audacity on 1, 3, 2,
44:40
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