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Mac & Bone Show - Dalton Wasserman Interview · Mac & Bone Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Spending a lot of time right now talking college football,
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  Speaker 1: and that includes with our friend of the program, Dalton
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  Speaker 1: Wasserman of the Preferred walk On podcast, on the guest
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  Speaker 1: line right now. Dalton, thanks so much for joining us.
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  Speaker 2: Man.
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  Speaker 1: We appreciate it.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, I appreciate you having me on big time.
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  Speaker 1: Feels good to talk college football. When we look at
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  Speaker 1: the top of the SEC entering the season, who do
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  Speaker 1: you rank one, two, three, in that order? The top
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  Speaker 1: of the SEC right now?
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  Speaker 2: Man, I'll tell you, I think it's a pretty wide
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  Speaker 2: open competition between probably five to seven teams who are
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  Speaker 2: capable of winning the conference. Right now. I think Texas
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  Speaker 2: is the most loaded team. I think what they added
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  Speaker 2: in the transfer portal, and I think the development of
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  Speaker 2: Arch Manning makes them a real SEC title contender, national
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  Speaker 2: title contender. I would put them number one. Probably put Georgia,
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  Speaker 2: the defending champions number two. We know what you're going
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  Speaker 2: to get at them. They have such a high floor
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  Speaker 2: with their defense in the run game, it's just going
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  Speaker 2: to be a matter of if they're explosive enough on
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  Speaker 2: offense once again, especially in the passing game. And number three,
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna put a old I think we have to
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  Speaker 2: respect what they brought back in the backfield with Trinidad
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  Speaker 2: Chambliss and Keywan Lacy and just what they did last
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  Speaker 2: year with Pete Golding at the end there as the
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  Speaker 2: head coach making the final four run darn near making
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  Speaker 2: the national title game. I'm put ole miss number three
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  Speaker 2: for now, but there's a lot of contenders right behind
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  Speaker 2: those teams that could sneak into it.
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  Speaker 1: One of the biggest stories in the sport, of course,
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  Speaker 1: last year and this year is Arch Manning. Took a
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  Speaker 1: while for him to get going last year. Are you
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  Speaker 1: expecting us to see the full Arch this year that
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  Speaker 1: we expected from the get go last year?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean the only thing we need to see
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  Speaker 2: is just not so many easy misses. The accuracy needs
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  Speaker 2: to be a little bit better, the ball placement needs
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  Speaker 2: to be a little bit better. But if that gets there,
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  Speaker 2: He's got all the tools that you can ask for,
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  Speaker 2: right He's got the size, He's got the athleticism, maybe
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  Speaker 2: the best athletes ever come out of the Manning family,
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  Speaker 2: the way that he can run. He's got a new
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  Speaker 2: number one receiver and cam Coleman to go along with
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  Speaker 2: Ryan Wingo. He's got two new running backs such are
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  Speaker 2: that balance to this offense and he doesn't have to
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  Speaker 2: carry it quite as much. But I would expect to
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  Speaker 2: see all of that, right. I think when you talk
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  Speaker 2: about Manning, he just got to play with a little
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  Speaker 2: more confidence and conviction. He's got no reason not to
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  Speaker 2: with the supporting cast that he has there now.
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  Speaker 1: Dall And when it comes to the Hoosiers, two years
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  Speaker 1: ago they came out of nowhere, made the postseason year
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  Speaker 1: one under Signetti. Last year it continued all the way
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  Speaker 1: to the National championship. What are you thinking this year?
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  Speaker 1: Is it gonna be another year where they can run
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  Speaker 1: the table and get or not run the table, but
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  Speaker 1: they can get all the way to the end and
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  Speaker 1: win it all. Are they just a playoff team? What
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  Speaker 1: are you think in for year three under Kurtzignetti and
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  Speaker 1: the Hoosiers?
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  Speaker 2: To me, I think the way that they're building, the
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  Speaker 2: foundation they've built with, you know, their defense especially, and
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  Speaker 2: then a lot of the talent that they've brought into
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  Speaker 2: the transfer portal as well. I fully expect them to
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  Speaker 2: be one of the eight best teams in the country.
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  Speaker 2: Obviously one of the three best teams in the Big
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  Speaker 2: Ten alongside Ohio State and Oregon and the rest of
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  Speaker 2: you know, the ceiling really just depends on Josh Houver. Right,
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  Speaker 2: we saw it last year with Fernando Mendoza. If this
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  Speaker 2: team has a Heisman Trophy winning quarterback or something close
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  Speaker 2: to that, they can win. They can win the national championship. Right,
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  Speaker 2: Josh Hoover's got to come in and work on his
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  Speaker 2: ball security, not throw quite as many interceptions. But you know,
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  Speaker 2: it could look more like two years ago where they
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  Speaker 2: were just a playoff team. If Hoover is just solid
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  Speaker 2: for them, but the stealing is there, I think he's
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  Speaker 2: got the ceiling somewhere, probably in between you know, Curtis
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  Speaker 2: Rourke and Fernando Mendoza what they had the last two years.
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  Speaker 2: But if he's closer to Mendoza, ab they can absolutely
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  Speaker 2: win the whole thing.
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  Speaker 1: Again, we're talking to Dalin Wasserman, the Preferred Walk On
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  Speaker 1: podcast does a great job with Max Chadwick on that show. Obviously,
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  Speaker 1: the headliner this year in the ACC is Miami Dallin.
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  Speaker 1: But you know, for the sake of discussion here, we're
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  Speaker 1: trying to figure out, Hey, who who lines up behind
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  Speaker 1: Miami maybe as that next best team you've got Louisvill SMU, Clemson.
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  Speaker 1: We'll see what James Franklin does in year one. What
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  Speaker 1: team entering the season do you like the most behind
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  Speaker 1: Miami as second best in the ACC?
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  Speaker 2: I think I would go with Louisville, and they even
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  Speaker 2: come with the biggest question mark of what Lincoln Kingholtz
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  Speaker 2: is gonna look like at quarterback. But when you look
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  Speaker 2: at the constants of what they have, their backfield is
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  Speaker 2: outstanding with Isaac and key One Brown, you brought in
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  Speaker 2: a really good receiver from Vanderbilt and Trey Richardson. Their
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  Speaker 2: defense is solid Clev Lubin in that pass rush that's
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  Speaker 2: one of the most lethal units in the entire conference.
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  Speaker 2: They just need to get healthy on the back seven
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  Speaker 2: of their defense, especially at linebacker. And then again, it's
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  Speaker 2: gonna come down to the quarterback. If Louisville figures out
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  Speaker 2: their quarterback situation, as they've done for several years in
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  Speaker 2: a row with different transfer guys, then they're gonna be
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  Speaker 2: right there in that. Mixing their schedule in the ACC
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  Speaker 2: is very, very favorable for them to get to the
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  Speaker 2: ACC title game and give them a shot. It's just
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  Speaker 2: a matter of the quarterback situation. Otherwise then you're looking
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  Speaker 2: at other teams like SMU. I think Georgia Tech has
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  Speaker 2: enough talent to be in that mix again, right, you
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  Speaker 2: know you had Pitt who had a really good year
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  Speaker 2: last year. Virginia if they figure out their quarterback situation
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  Speaker 2: could factor into it. So you know this, it's really
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  Speaker 2: gonna be wide open, a wide open race for that
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  Speaker 2: second spot in the ACC, assuming Miami doesn't slip as
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  Speaker 2: they have done in many regular seasons before.
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  Speaker 1: Virginia tag year one under James Franklin are a lot
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  Speaker 1: of hype. I think it's justified. But do you think
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  Speaker 1: that he can do some work early and get them
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  Speaker 1: to say, even eight or nine wins in his first year.
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  Speaker 1: What's your expectation for the Hokies early under James Franklin.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's possible. I mean, they just need to
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  Speaker 2: be better coached offensively. Defensively, that team is generally very,
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  Speaker 2: very good, even when they have their down years like
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  Speaker 2: last year. But offensively they just have to find some balance. Right.
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  Speaker 2: I like what they have in the backfield with Marcellus Hawkins,
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  Speaker 2: but it's really gonna come down to Ethan Grunkmeyer in
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  Speaker 2: the passing game, matching up with that right, A Virginia
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  Speaker 2: Tech team, to me, with balance, with having any sort
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  Speaker 2: of effectiveness in the passing game can be really good
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  Speaker 2: because generally the lack of wins lately has lagged behind
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  Speaker 2: their talent. They are more talented than what they've shown
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  Speaker 2: the last four or five years, and they just need
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  Speaker 2: to get more consistent quarterback play. That's really the big
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  Speaker 2: thing for me and Franklin such a good coach. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: he's been so good everywhere he's gone. We've seen at
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  Speaker 2: the last couple stops with Penn State and Vanderbilt, and
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  Speaker 2: there's still some people that would go, you know what,
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  Speaker 2: he really wasn't to blame for the problems at Penn State.
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  Speaker 2: There's a lot of talent there. He's got to put
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  Speaker 2: it together and I think the big key, as always
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  Speaker 2: is going to be the quarterback in.
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  Speaker 1: Grunck Meyer dln Wasserman preferred walk on podcast here on
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  Speaker 1: The Mack and Bone Show. One team that's a little
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  Speaker 1: hard to figure out, even for a team that we
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  Speaker 1: cover here is NC State. They get CJ. Bailey back,
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  Speaker 1: but they do lose a lot. What do you think
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  Speaker 1: in the kind of year this will be for the
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  Speaker 1: Pack and Raleigh.
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  Speaker 2: We're really going to find out if CJ. Bailey can
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  Speaker 2: carry them, because I mean, you look at the amount
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  Speaker 2: that they lost in the transfer portal between Hollywood Smothers
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  Speaker 2: at running back and Jikarious Peak at left tackle, and
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  Speaker 2: Terrell Anderson and Noah Rodgers at receiver, Justin Jolie going
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  Speaker 2: into the NFL Draft at tight end. I mean, we're
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  Speaker 2: really going to find out if Bailey is the guy
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  Speaker 2: who can elevate everybody else around him, because I am
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  Speaker 2: a little bit worried about that supporting cast right MC
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  Speaker 2: State that usually put together are a pretty good defense,
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  Speaker 2: especially on the back end of it, but offensively it
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  Speaker 2: sure looks like the CJ. Bailey Show, and then a
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  Speaker 2: lot of unproven around him, especially at wide receivers. So look,
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  Speaker 2: I've seen some draft scouts around Twitter and things like
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  Speaker 2: that that say Bailey's one of the elite quarterbacks in
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  Speaker 2: the country. We're gonna find that out. If he is,
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  Speaker 2: they can contend in the ACC in a wide open
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  Speaker 2: ANCC for that second spot. Like we mentioned before, but
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  Speaker 2: I'm a little bit worried about that supporting cast and
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  Speaker 2: the amount of talent that they lost in the portal.
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  Speaker 1: Especially our Texters are likely to dallon here. You're on
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  Speaker 1: Twitter at CFB Underscore Dalton, so I want to make
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  Speaker 1: sure we get that out there at CFB Underscore Dalton.
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  Speaker 1: College Football Talk preferred walk on show with Max Chadwick
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  Speaker 1: as well. Look, last year, Dalton, we had you on in.
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  Speaker 1: One of the first things we asked about was Bill Belichick.
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  Speaker 1: That was the story. That was the biggest story really
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  Speaker 1: maybe a college football entering last season. And now look
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  Speaker 1: out far down the list of questions he is and
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  Speaker 1: unt is for this year. What are you thinking for
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  Speaker 1: Bill Belichick year two? Is it going to be more
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  Speaker 1: of the same, Is it going to be just a disaster?
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  Speaker 1: Does he start to make headway? Where do you think
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  Speaker 1: it if you could even assess it right now on
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  Speaker 1: what do you expect from Belichick and the Heels.
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  Speaker 2: I think defensively they can be okay what he and
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  Speaker 2: his son Steve have built there. On defense, There's some
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  Speaker 2: talented players that they have to work with, especially on
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  Speaker 2: their defensive line, that I think can keep them in
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  Speaker 2: ball games. But they need a total offensive reconstruction from
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  Speaker 2: what they had last year. Right the whole experiment with
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  Speaker 2: Freddy Kitchens and Geo Lopez and everything like that. It
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  Speaker 2: just didn't work at all offensively, and now they're bringing
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  Speaker 2: in Bobby Patrino to trying to rebuild the whole thing
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  Speaker 2: and make it kind of to me more of a
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  Speaker 2: college style offense. Right. And even Patrino in his most
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  Speaker 2: recent run here at Arkansas, they weren't very good record wise,
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  Speaker 2: but it wasn't because of him. They were scoring a
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  Speaker 2: ton of points with Taylor Green and those guys. So
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  Speaker 2: it's really going to be a matter of Patrino modernizing
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  Speaker 2: this offense for the college game because Freddy Kitchens really
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  Speaker 2: just couldn't do that, and then figuring out the quarterback situation. Right,
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  Speaker 2: Billy Edwards Junior seems to be the veteran favorite to
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  Speaker 2: start there. I know they've got a couple other young
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  Speaker 2: kids behind him that are competing, but he needs to
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  Speaker 2: be healthy. And you know, like we talked about with
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  Speaker 2: a couple other teams here, they need functional quarterback play.
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  Speaker 2: That's really where it starts to create that two dimensional
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  Speaker 2: threat in your offense. But Bobby Petrino, he's got a
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  Speaker 2: heavy task in front of him to try to modernize
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  Speaker 2: this offense. Get a lot of transfers, to play well
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  Speaker 2: together and just figure out how to score some points,
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  Speaker 2: because that's really the biggest issue from last season, Dalin.
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  Speaker 1: One thing we love about this sport, of many things,
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  Speaker 1: is when teams come out of nowhere and either they
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  Speaker 1: go on a run or we get to know a
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  Speaker 1: program that has either been dormant or not good. Indiana
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  Speaker 1: being the extreme example. I mean, they won a title,
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  Speaker 1: but it's been Vanderbilt the last couple of years that's
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  Speaker 1: gotten better. Give us a team or two that you
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  Speaker 1: think could really surprise us this year and be much
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  Speaker 1: better maybe than we're thinking.
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to give you two. I think one of
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  Speaker 2: them isn't going to surprise so much when you consider
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  Speaker 2: the story of their offseason. Number one Oklahoma State. Look,
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  Speaker 2: they only won one game last year, but Eric Morrison
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  Speaker 2: a lot of the core of his North Texas team
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  Speaker 2: last year that went twelve to two, including the quarterback
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  Speaker 2: Drew Messamaker, are coming up from North Texas, and I
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  Speaker 2: think there's going to be a big improvement and once
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  Speaker 2: a pretty wide open Big twelve. You know, I don't
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  Speaker 2: know that they'll win it because they have a very
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  Speaker 2: very tough schedule and an out of conference game against
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  Speaker 2: Oregon as well. But Oklahoma State is going to be
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  Speaker 2: a team. They're gonna win a hell of a lot
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  Speaker 2: more than one game next year. And then a second
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  Speaker 2: team that I think is sneaky and I kind of
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  Speaker 2: like their roster and I love their new coach, Bob Chesney.
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  Speaker 2: Look Out for UCLA. I think out there in the
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  Speaker 2: Big Ten, you still have Niko Yamaliava as the quarterback,
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  Speaker 2: and then there's a decent amount of that James Madison
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  Speaker 2: team that Chesney took to the playoff last year that
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  Speaker 2: went over there with them. I really like the improvements
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  Speaker 2: they made on defense. I think they're another team. I
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  Speaker 2: think they got a solid roster. They only won three
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  Speaker 2: games last year, and they had a lot of coaching turmoil.
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  Speaker 2: I think they're going to be better than that. Lookout
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  Speaker 2: for those two teams, Oklahoma State and UCLA. Max.
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  Speaker 1: Now, Max, it's all in great stuff. I was gonna say,
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  Speaker 1: how can we find the show with you and Max?
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  Speaker 1: The preferred walk on show. It's on YouTube right.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely, the video version on YouTube. We also have the
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  Speaker 2: audio versions on Apple and Spotify wherever else you get
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  Speaker 2: your audio podcast there and we've got two more episodes
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  Speaker 2: today and tomorrow this week, and then next week we
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  Speaker 2: start our full SEC previews, including next Thursday with preview
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  Speaker 2: every SEC team. It's going to be probably a three
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  Speaker 2: plus hour show. Come and join the fun with that.
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  Speaker 1: You guys are crushing it. I appreciate you, man.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely appreciate it big time. Thank you. Here we Goo.
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  Speaker 1: That's Dawlin Wasserman again on Twitter. You got to give
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  Speaker 1: a follow at CFB Underscore Dawli