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#302 - Lush · The Bootleg Kev Podcast

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Speaker 1: Lush Uno back at it with my pott and to
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Speaker 1: play a bootleg keV. This is about to be a
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Speaker 1: crazy one. Log in with me. Come on, bhu leg
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Speaker 1: cap Podcast special guests in here, Lush, I was gonna
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Speaker 1: shave because I figure if I did, it might have
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Speaker 1: been even more difficult to distinguish us from one another.
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Speaker 1: This is like the Spider Man meme in the flesh. Okay, yeah, so,
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Speaker 1: first of all, apologize for calling you corny bro. My
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Speaker 1: bad for calling you what I called you. I think
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Speaker 1: you called me a bam bam bigelow interrexic and I
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Speaker 1: jerk off rappers for a living, I understand, manually stimulate them,
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Speaker 1: manually masturbate. Yeah nice. Yeah, only a few, only a few, man, Yeah,
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Speaker 1: because like, honestly, I had to get you. It was
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Speaker 1: lighthearted and no I saw I saw your comment and
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Speaker 1: you were and I saw you get me love at
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Speaker 1: the end of the interview things. Yeah yeah, like I
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Speaker 1: legit was rocking with you. That's why I kind of
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Speaker 1: hurt my heart. You know what I called I only
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Speaker 1: saw a couple of things, and I think I just
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Speaker 1: hated the wrap part of your guys' little Yeah. Yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 1: it was just it just wasn't great to me and
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Speaker 1: the wrap part of our trajectory over there. Yeah, so
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Speaker 1: how are you doing? Obviously it's been about three weeks
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Speaker 1: now since everything happened here. Well, it's it's been great.
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Speaker 1: Wound up securing a caffeine deal. I saw that going
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Speaker 1: going up right now. Been doing my own pod going
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Speaker 1: up right now. No, I saw you've been doing kind
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Speaker 1: of like more like a mentally like a like a
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Speaker 1: podcast that's more geared towards because you're obviously how long
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Speaker 1: have you been sober? Over three years? Well, congrats, thank you.
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Speaker 1: So the podcast that you've been doing is it more
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Speaker 1: like mental health directed? So there's like it's like there's
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Speaker 1: different content that I'm doing over there. One of the
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Speaker 1: podcasts with my boy Kyle is called Ruining Hour, and
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Speaker 1: that is geared towards mental health because we're both sober.
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Speaker 1: Then I have one called Lush World where I'm doing
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Speaker 1: interviews kind of similar to what you got going on.
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Speaker 1: Then I'm doing streams as well. So the stream stuff's
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Speaker 1: on caffeine. Yeah, yeah, well, because rats on that. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: it seems like you landed on your feet pretty well. Man, yep,
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Speaker 1: shouts to my boy e K and the ad also
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Speaker 1: is a little bit instrumental in helping me leverage that situation.
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Speaker 1: So right, I think, like for anybody who doesn't know, man,
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Speaker 1: I grew up around everybody in my family's addicts. Everybody
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Speaker 1: from my dad to my uncle to my cousins. Every
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Speaker 1: single like big male member of my family was some
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Speaker 1: sort of addict, crack heroin, I mean, whatever you want
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Speaker 1: to call it, Right, do you remember, like because I was?
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Speaker 1: You know, the one thing about being somebody who loves
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Speaker 1: somebody who's an addict is the most frustrating part is
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Speaker 1: trying to get them to get clean before they're ready
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Speaker 1: to get clean. It's almost like you got to kind
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Speaker 1: of just let them fall on their face or hit
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Speaker 1: rock bottom. What was your rock bottom? See it's weird
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Speaker 1: because my eating bottom is essential to getting silver. But
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Speaker 1: for me, there was a series of different bottoms, and
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Speaker 1: I would think that I hit bottom and then boom,
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Speaker 1: I go down through the floorboards, and then I'm in
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Speaker 1: the cellar, and then boom, I go through the cellar
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Speaker 1: and next thing I know, I'm starting to smell sulfur
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Speaker 1: and I'm approaching the seventh layer of hell, And yeah,
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Speaker 1: what was that what was the seventh layer of Heil
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Speaker 1: rock Bottom? Were you sucking dick? You never suck no
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Speaker 1: motherfucking dick. Hell no, he was like, and then I
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Speaker 1: realized what I was on my knees about to blow
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Speaker 1: this truck or for no no, no, no, no, no,
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Speaker 1: no no, just you know, pitiful incomprehensible demoralization, just lying
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Speaker 1: like being a strange for my family, my friends. You know,
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Speaker 1: I've experienced anything you pretty much could besides sucking dick.
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Speaker 1: You know, I've been been shot at, being stabbed, be incarcerated,
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Speaker 1: overdose a group of times, had hits all my life.
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Speaker 1: So you know, yeah, I got one cousin of mine
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Speaker 1: who in and out of jail's whole life has overdosed
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Speaker 1: over and over. He's been stabbed, he's been shot. I
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Speaker 1: mean this, dude, it's it's crazy, and it's like then
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Speaker 1: my uncle Scott. Shout to my uncle Scott, who just
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Speaker 1: got out of prison for the fucking ninety eighth time.
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Speaker 1: He just messaged me on Facebook. I could shot Uncle Scott. Man,
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Speaker 1: welcome home, Scott. Come on, He's like, I promise you
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Speaker 1: this my last time, Kevin. I hope everything's all round like, bruh.
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Speaker 1: When I was a kid, this dude used to come
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Speaker 1: to my house because he was tweaking so fucking hard,
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Speaker 1: running around with the Hell's angels. This motherfucker would be
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Speaker 1: sitting at my sink picking his fucking face thinking there
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Speaker 1: was bugs in his fucking tweaking. Yeah, so I used
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Speaker 1: to go into the bathroom be fucking blood everywhere. Then
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Speaker 1: my other uncle and aunt, we used to go to
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Speaker 1: their house to play with my cousins, and all the
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Speaker 1: fucking spoons were burnt. Yeah, it's a fucked up life, man, Yeah. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: that attic life is serious and for you, like, because
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Speaker 1: there's a few different ways. Obviously there's like did you
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Speaker 1: go through AA or NA rather Well, yeah, I'm in
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Speaker 1: a twelve step program, but I did go to treatment
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Speaker 1: as well. And when I agreed to go to treatment,
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Speaker 1: I had pretty much gotten to the point where I
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Speaker 1: felt like I had no more moves the bus. I
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Speaker 1: had already exhausted all my resources. You know, anybody that
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Speaker 1: was foolish enough to still be close to me, my
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Speaker 1: fiance at the time, any of my friends, they were
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Speaker 1: like not fucking with me, and it was either that
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Speaker 1: or pretty much die. I had no other options, and
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Speaker 1: I've been in a lot of treatment centers over the years.
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Speaker 1: The first time I was sixteen, you know, I went
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Speaker 1: to Juvie got arrested for the first time at thirteen.
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Speaker 1: The spot that I went to was for chronic relapsers. Basically,
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Speaker 1: it's like, if you don't get sober, here, it's a
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Speaker 1: wrap for you. This is the last stop on the train.
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Speaker 1: And I thought that I qualified as a chronic relapser.
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Speaker 1: But then I realized I've never actually relapsed because I
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Speaker 1: never made an earnest attempt at sobriety in my life. So, yeah,
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Speaker 1: one of my uncles, my uncle Rocky, has a drug
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Speaker 1: rehab called he was a huge heroin addict. He used
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Speaker 1: to shoot up right here, damn yeah, because yeah, and
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Speaker 1: he didn't want anybody to see us. He was shoot
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Speaker 1: up in his fucking eyelids. But this motherfucker got clean,
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Speaker 1: started a drug rehab and then when I was like sixteen,
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Speaker 1: I started working for him in like a Dennin can store.
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Speaker 1: But he had the same type of program called the
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Speaker 1: Herd six program, and it was all people who they
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Speaker 1: were like on their last they were like habitual relapsers.
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Speaker 1: And man, so I was like fifteen sixteen working in
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Speaker 1: a fucking Dennin can store, just with a bunch of
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Speaker 1: fucking recovering dope fiends. Then I turned eighteen and I
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Speaker 1: got a job running his consignment car lot. Literally every
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Speaker 1: employee was a fucking freshly recovered drug add So I
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Speaker 1: was babysitting dope fiends at eighteen years old. That man
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Speaker 1: crazy life. Shout out to everybody's who's staying clean? So
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Speaker 1: for you, was it like, because I always hear like
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Speaker 1: there's because you know, nowadays, especially being in Cali, there's
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Speaker 1: like weed, there's there's psychedelics, there's California sober correct, right,
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Speaker 1: so for you, you're sober sober. Yeah, I can't fuck
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Speaker 1: with none of that ship. So if you smoke weed,
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Speaker 1: you feel like it can kind of be a gateway
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Speaker 1: for I don't want to tempt fate, you know, Like
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Speaker 1: I'm still high. I've donet smoke so much weed in
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Speaker 1: my past right to the point where like I have
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Speaker 1: no like, I have no desire to even try it again.
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Speaker 1: You know, who knows in the future. I just know
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Speaker 1: for right now, for today, I'm not fucking with it. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I just there was somebody I just saw on Joe Rogans.
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Speaker 1: They're they're cleaning sober, but they were like considering trying.
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Speaker 1: I think ayahuasca. Yeah see, like you know I've already
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Speaker 1: had them psychedelic, You've already experiences. There's no real if
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Speaker 1: I would do that for me, that would be your relapse.
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Speaker 1: Because I just want to get high. I just want
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Speaker 1: to get outside my body. But that's nothing that I
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Speaker 1: can attain with, you know, prayer, meditation, I can do
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Speaker 1: all that and reach that same level of consciousness as
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Speaker 1: to where I don't need were a lot of your
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Speaker 1: friend's family, I know I saw some of the fans
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Speaker 1: or maybe a little worried that with the situation that
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Speaker 1: just happened to a no jumper, that you your sobriety
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Speaker 1: might have been in question, or you might have maybe
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Speaker 1: gotten mentally hit by it, or did it did it
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Speaker 1: bother you in that way? Were you able to kind
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Speaker 1: of get through it. I was able to get through it,
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Speaker 1: by the grace of God. However, I will say the
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Speaker 1: closest I've gotten to relapsing, the only time I was
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Speaker 1: like considering it, really considering it, was after Adam kicked
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Speaker 1: me out that day and I was driving around the valley.
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Speaker 1: You feel me like driving around the valley not stopping
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Speaker 1: because I knew that if I stopped, I was going
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Speaker 1: to go to a liquor store and get on and
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Speaker 1: get I get something, get me a little bottle and
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Speaker 1: get it. That day, that day, what was it that
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Speaker 1: made you? What did you call? Do you have a sponsor?
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Speaker 1: I do have a sponsor, and I call my sponsor
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Speaker 1: and like that was between him that's dope and people
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Speaker 1: that are close to me, they want up talking you
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Speaker 1: off the ledge. And I realized, Nam, yeah, not how
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Speaker 1: I want to move. But yeah, no, it was really
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Speaker 1: it got dark. Yeah, dude, I mean I can only
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Speaker 1: imagine because I do see, like even just being on
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Speaker 1: the show the day, because I got hit up the
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Speaker 1: day then all that happened. We were at lunch and
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Speaker 1: because you'll film the next day, right the next morning. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: and we're at lunch and Adam just hit me. He's like, hey,
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Speaker 1: this is what happened. You're down to be a guest
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Speaker 1: on the show tomorrow. Just I just need a fill in.
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Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, whatever, I've been on the show before.
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Speaker 1: I was like, cool, I got you, bro, Like Adam's
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Speaker 1: always been super stand up with me, you know. And
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Speaker 1: but then I really like didn't really really realize like
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Speaker 1: oh eighties about because eighty called me and eighty talked
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Speaker 1: and he was like, dude, I'm about to quit, right
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Speaker 1: And I was like Jesus Christ, like what am I
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Speaker 1: walking into? And then everyone assumed I'm like the permanent
9:53
Speaker 1: new guy on the show, right, So well, you had
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Speaker 1: to do that. It is kind of like a New
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Speaker 1: York version of ad You had like a lush one
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Speaker 1: Adjason's character. Correct, It's like, oh look, yeah, you're white. Yeah, okay.
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Speaker 1: It was like, oh, there's a white guy with a
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Speaker 1: fitted baseball game, right right, yeah, So I think I
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Speaker 1: just and then I didn't know about the Reddit thing,
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Speaker 1: and then I went on Reddit and I was like,
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Speaker 1: oh this is wild. Yeah, it gets deep. Do you
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Speaker 1: regret diving into that part of it? Not even for
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Speaker 1: the result of what ended up happening, but just I
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Speaker 1: do feel like I could see how going and looking
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Speaker 1: in that toxic ass thing and seeing everyone's opinion and
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Speaker 1: just kind of seeing all the negative bullshit that gets
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Speaker 1: said in there could probably like subconsciously fuck with you.
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Speaker 1: Well here's the thing, yes, is the short answer. However,
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Speaker 1: right before I wound up because you know, first me
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Speaker 1: and Disaster had the our own podcast, Jump On No Jump.
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Speaker 1: I remember that, yeah, and it was cool, and we
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Speaker 1: were just focusing on battle rapping just lyricists, which is
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Speaker 1: like the lay that I'm in. Another reason why you
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Speaker 1: and I are kind of similar. We're both hardcore hip
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Speaker 1: hop fanatics, you feel me like. And then they wound
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Speaker 1: up bringing me on the main podcast I'm a No
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Speaker 1: Jumper show, and then people really took to me, and
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Speaker 1: I wound up becoming a staple over there or just
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Speaker 1: one of them. I feel like at one point in time,
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Speaker 1: I felt like anytime I'd like to see a thumbnail
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Speaker 1: you were on it was like yeah, absolutely, within the
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Speaker 1: past six months, I was on that channel more than
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Speaker 1: anybody else. So what happened was right before I wound
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Speaker 1: up being brought on to the other podcasts, I would
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Speaker 1: had hit a low in my life and was very depressed,
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Speaker 1: going through a lot of changes, and it was just
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Speaker 1: like down. You know, my my Chicken Eyes split up,
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Speaker 1: my mom was terminally diagnosed with terminal illness. You know,
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Speaker 1: my company was going through a lot of changes, my
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Speaker 1: battle rap league, so I just felt like really unstable
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Speaker 1: and you know, I was like, damn near suicidal. I
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Speaker 1: was suicidal. This is prior to you in disaster, this
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Speaker 1: is this is after after disaster and I and before
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Speaker 1: I got right regular. So I was super depressed. I
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Speaker 1: wound up going on the show. When I'm on there,
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Speaker 1: I'm like, they're probably not gonna fuck with me, like
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Speaker 1: the craft, the audience, don't you know. I'm I'm older,
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Speaker 1: I'm not really in the same vein. There's a lot
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Speaker 1: of the people on. They're probably not going to fuck
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Speaker 1: with me. But then all of the comments were like
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Speaker 1: overwhelmingly positive, and people start bombarding my Instagram and like
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Speaker 1: telling me to go to the reddit and all that,
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Speaker 1: And at that point, I was so depressed. The only
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Speaker 1: thing that was really keeping me going was going and
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Speaker 1: seeing the positivity you were getting right right at that time. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: they're Reddit. The YouTube comments is your social media. So
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Speaker 1: that really if it wasn't for that, I don't know
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Speaker 1: if I would have made it through that dark period.
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Speaker 1: So I'm I'm grateful to the Reddit for that. However,
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Speaker 1: I had to, I should have separated myself at a
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Speaker 1: certain point, but it because you know my addicts mentality.
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Speaker 1: It's literally like chasing. I can see how that is addictive.
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Speaker 1: This validation is you know, sure for for for an addict,
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Speaker 1: and even just then even because you're a part of
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Speaker 1: it and you just want to probably just be like,
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Speaker 1: what are these motherfuckers saying about? Right ABC or D. Look,
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Speaker 1: everybody over there check the reddit, whether they want to
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Speaker 1: admit it or not. They like some more than others.
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Speaker 1: But everybody is is peeping the reddit to some extent,
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Speaker 1: not like I was. I was actively posting on there.
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Speaker 1: And then at a certain point when the when these
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Speaker 1: people in the reddit saw that I was going in there,
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Speaker 1: like oh well, we could get a reaction out of him.
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Speaker 1: So then like and then when the when the pendulum
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Speaker 1: inevitably swings to the other side from that love to
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Speaker 1: them not fucking with me and dissecting me. And you
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Speaker 1: know what I mean that right there, I was trying
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Speaker 1: to win them over and it became like this vicious cycle. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: I can only imagine, man, because like you know, I
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Speaker 1: got a family, I got kids, and shit, I'm like, bro,
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Speaker 1: I would never want to be uh. I mean, I
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Speaker 1: feel like the type of ship I do. I purposely
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Speaker 1: don't touch certain shit because I don't want to like
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Speaker 1: overexpose myself, I guess, and my kids and my girl
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Speaker 1: and shit. So I even told Adam when all this
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Speaker 1: shit has been going on the last few weeks, I
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Speaker 1: was like, Bro, you got some fucking thick skin, brother,
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Speaker 1: because this shit is crazy. They would have been on
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Speaker 1: your last if you had gone over there permanently yet,
14:20
Speaker 1: but even just like just seeing, like you know, because
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Speaker 1: I know Adam like could addressed whatever allegations over and over.
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Speaker 1: So I'm like, Yo, this shit got brought back up,
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Speaker 1: and I'm like, bro, here's the thing, and I want
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Speaker 1: your opinion on this. I genuinely believe that if Adam
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Speaker 1: had not gone on that pod right when I was
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Speaker 1: on there and fired me in the very unceremonious manner
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Speaker 1: in which he did, a lot of that shit wouldn't
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Speaker 1: have happened. I agree, And I think I might have
14:50
Speaker 1: said something to that effect on the podcast. I think
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Speaker 1: you might have. Yeah, I did. I did. I did
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Speaker 1: say something like that. I was like, because I do
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Speaker 1: think that that moment was so vibe role and it
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Speaker 1: also highlighted whatever said issues that And I even told
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Speaker 1: they do this when he was on here. I was like,
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Speaker 1: you were planning on leaving because there's no way, thick
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Speaker 1: skinned ass Ad I know, got so mad about someone
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Speaker 1: saying he has four jokes that he quit like you
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Speaker 1: was playing this shit, n But but here's the thing.
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Speaker 1: Ad for Shoe was there and I've been telling him
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Speaker 1: he should leave. I told him and t Rail like
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Speaker 1: you guys should be the fucking La drink champs and
15:28
Speaker 1: they and they got their own thing going going really
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Speaker 1: well for them. Here's the thing. It kind of forced
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Speaker 1: AD's hand, it did with it being puzzled it was,
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Speaker 1: and it was also a nice opportunity if you were
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Speaker 1: planning on leaving already and those wheels already in motion,
15:42
Speaker 1: it was a nice opportunity to kind of take advantage
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Speaker 1: of the of the you know, the virality of the moment.
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Speaker 1: And I think it was mutual. I think that Adam
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Speaker 1: and No Jumper was wanting to pivot away from that,
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Speaker 1: considering they already a certain point. It's a conflict of
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Speaker 1: interest when there's other podcasts with I don't want to
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Speaker 1: say regurgitating but utilizing the same content that you are
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Speaker 1: and getting more abused for it. I'd assume he probably
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Speaker 1: regrets firing at the time, and like not to say
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Speaker 1: that he shouldn't have fired me, but he could have
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Speaker 1: easily taken me outside. No, I think, and I think
16:16
Speaker 1: he explained it to me, like, if you catch some
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Speaker 1: girl cheating on you and she's at work and you're
16:21
Speaker 1: in the next room, if you cut your girl cheating
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Speaker 1: on you, you're gonna be so fucking pissed you're fucking
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Speaker 1: going in then you're fucking up her job, like, and
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Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, I get it if like you
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Speaker 1: guys had that relationship, and he truly felt like what
16:32
Speaker 1: the fuck? Like it was shortsighted, and that is why
16:37
Speaker 1: people should not ever make certain decisions when they're emotional,
16:41
Speaker 1: because you always regret those decisions. But I do think
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Speaker 1: that had he handled it a little bit, and I'm
16:46
Speaker 1: sure he would admit the same thing. But here's the thing, Like,
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Speaker 1: to an extent, and that's what I was kind of
16:52
Speaker 1: going back and forth in my head, was well, he
16:54
Speaker 1: just so mad, and I don't know that was an element,
16:57
Speaker 1: but I honestly think that's capped to an extent. It
16:59
Speaker 1: might be because it was a moment and the reason
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Speaker 1: why I think that he thought that he was gonna
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Speaker 1: dunk on me, You feel me and everybody was just
17:07
Speaker 1: gonna be like, oh, damn, Adam just fucking marked Lush out.
17:11
Speaker 1: Damn Lush is such a snake, fuck him. And they
17:13
Speaker 1: were gonna be like, yeah, Adam, you're the man. You
17:15
Speaker 1: look so cool. Because if if this is something he regretted,
17:20
Speaker 1: then why did he post it? Not only on the
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Speaker 1: note collab post. That's the one thing. I the collab
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Speaker 1: post is crazy. I think I said that at lunch
17:28
Speaker 1: because I think he said, my boy our showed me
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Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, he collap posts, so not
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Speaker 1: only the no Jumper fans are going to see it,
17:37
Speaker 1: but his fans, And now he has gotten millions of views.
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Speaker 1: Ninety five percent of the comments are on his helmet,
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Speaker 1: Like this is a dude that has stated several times
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Speaker 1: and this isn't a disc Adham at all, because you know,
17:52
Speaker 1: ultimately all this aside, I do respect him. You know,
17:55
Speaker 1: he said everything is content, everything is fair again, you know,
18:01
Speaker 1: so I believe he's like fuck it, like, oh, firing Lush,
18:04
Speaker 1: that's one thing. Let's fire Lush on on the air.
18:08
Speaker 1: And then it wound up, you know, kind of having
18:10
Speaker 1: an adverse effect that he hadn't anticipated for you as
18:15
Speaker 1: short lived, because what you would would you say you
18:17
Speaker 1: were in a regular on No Jumper from September? Okay,
18:21
Speaker 1: so about seven or six months? Yeah, six seven months?
18:23
Speaker 1: Yeah for you, even though it ended the way it ended,
18:26
Speaker 1: even though there might be bad blood now, it did
18:30
Speaker 1: change your life absolutely, and it kind of puts you
18:32
Speaker 1: in a position to kind of explore a new career
18:36
Speaker 1: path or a new path of like because you've always
18:38
Speaker 1: kind of been a personality and ye, but now you
18:42
Speaker 1: can go and do caffeine. And I'm sure like not
18:44
Speaker 1: without No Jumper, those things probably don't present themselves correct,
18:48
Speaker 1: and who knows the trajectory of life, something else could
18:50
Speaker 1: have popped up, you know what I mean. Like, but
18:52
Speaker 1: absolutely so, I'm very I'm grateful for what happened. Like
18:56
Speaker 1: as far as me, you know, No Jumpers a platform
18:59
Speaker 1: that I loved for years. I'm grateful for my boy
19:02
Speaker 1: Disaster for presenting that opportunity to me and making that happen.
19:07
Speaker 1: And if it wasn't for that, yeah, I wouldn't be
19:10
Speaker 1: doing what I'm doing now. I wouldn't. You know. My
19:12
Speaker 1: fan base tripled since I went over there, So it's dope,
19:17
Speaker 1: you know, but like kind of like you said, though,
19:19
Speaker 1: like certain things that were brought about in that conversation
19:23
Speaker 1: in the moment where he was firing me were things
19:27
Speaker 1: that weren't even discussed, which wound up biting him in
19:30
Speaker 1: the ass further because there was no conversation about salaries.
19:34
Speaker 1: Although yeah, was I just kind of stirred up all
19:38
Speaker 1: these right? Was I six figures up? Yes? But like
19:41
Speaker 1: that was never something I discussed with those people in
19:44
Speaker 1: the discord. And then like Trell and these other people
19:46
Speaker 1: are like, yo, well hold up, why is buddy over
19:49
Speaker 1: here getting paid this and I'm getting paid that? And
19:52
Speaker 1: I'm supposed to be the star over here? Like it
19:54
Speaker 1: just created a has sold a lot of seeds of discontent.
19:57
Speaker 1: Were you making more than everybody over there? I was
20:00
Speaker 1: one of the I was one of the higher paid people.
20:03
Speaker 1: Or was it like what you and Ad? Probably? Yeah,
20:04
Speaker 1: probably something like that. I don't know what everyone gets paid.
20:07
Speaker 1: You were also there, though, I mean to be fair,
20:09
Speaker 1: While t Rail and Ad were probably the quote unquote
20:11
Speaker 1: stars of No Jumper, you probably were there more. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
20:15
Speaker 1: I was. I went four or five days a week. Yeah.
20:19
Speaker 1: But the thing is this what happened was due to
20:22
Speaker 1: the like when a d was when ad started Community
20:27
Speaker 1: and Trail started back on fig. There was no precedent,
20:31
Speaker 1: said Adam had no idea that those that was going
20:34
Speaker 1: to take off the way there, There was no precedent
20:36
Speaker 1: before them to be like I could put these guys
20:38
Speaker 1: in a contract, right, and even like, look, I approached
20:41
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20:44
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20:46
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20:49
Speaker 1: want to offer you guys a percentage of the revenue
20:52
Speaker 1: of whatever I do. You know what I mean? Because
20:55
Speaker 1: if it wasn't it wasn't for y'all, I wouldn't be
20:57
Speaker 1: in this position. And then there Adam was like take
21:00
Speaker 1: in the back and he was like, whoa, I've never
21:02
Speaker 1: even considered that, but like we'll talk about it to
21:04
Speaker 1: get back to you. Instead, what they wound up doing
21:06
Speaker 1: is presenting me with the contract, which is exclusive exclusivity
21:10
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21:13
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21:17
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21:20
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21:22
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21:25
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21:26
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21:28
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21:30
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21:33
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21:35
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21:37
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21:41
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Speaker 1: for you, what is something that because you kind of
27:25
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27:28
Speaker 1: in terms of just like if we were to think
27:30
Speaker 1: about like the on camera drama at No Jumper, you
27:34
Speaker 1: were pretty much there for all the all the hits,
27:38
Speaker 1: all the greatest hits, a lot of them. So for you, like,
27:42
Speaker 1: is there anything that you regret from that era or oh? Absolutely?
27:47
Speaker 1: Like what absolutely? But now, to be fair, a lot
27:50
Speaker 1: of that shit started before I was even in the mix, right,
27:54
Speaker 1: and then you have nothing to do with the house
27:55
Speaker 1: phone thing, yeah, yeah, And then there were prior to
27:58
Speaker 1: me being even like a prominent character over there, there
28:02
Speaker 1: was Trel and there's the Trel and Almighty Suspects. There's
28:08
Speaker 1: like a lot of different things. But what I really
28:12
Speaker 1: regret because I feel like, going into January, we were
28:17
Speaker 1: on a very harmonious level. Everybody was getting along, We're
28:21
Speaker 1: all fucking with each other. We had that you know
28:24
Speaker 1: that that video I posted earlier was from the Christmas party.
28:27
Speaker 1: Everybody's like we're one big, happy family, right, And then
28:32
Speaker 1: in the beginning of January, I wound up. You know,
28:36
Speaker 1: Adam told you about it, how he like encouraged me
28:39
Speaker 1: to get at Flocko and shit, I regret I should
28:41
Speaker 1: have never done that because that completely violates my moral
28:45
Speaker 1: compass as just a man in recovery. Like now, I
28:49
Speaker 1: get making fun of people is one thing, joking around,
28:51
Speaker 1: we all can hoo ride each other. But I think
28:54
Speaker 1: that I took it way too far and a lot
28:56
Speaker 1: and was did something that I knew was wrong, even
29:00
Speaker 1: though I was asked to do it by my boss,
29:02
Speaker 1: who I was trying to, you know, who I wanted
29:04
Speaker 1: to be happy with me. But at the same time,
29:08
Speaker 1: it wound up setting in motion. Not only was it
29:10
Speaker 1: wrong to Flacco, who I'm cool with now, but it's
29:12
Speaker 1: set in the motion a chain of events which kind
29:15
Speaker 1: of led to where we're at right now. Crazy. A
29:17
Speaker 1: lot of people are saying that you might be suing.
29:20
Speaker 1: I mean, if I was, I wouldn't talk about that anyways, right,
29:22
Speaker 1: That's fair, I was gonna say, because like, I think,
29:25
Speaker 1: like there's a few ways to look at the whole situation.
29:27
Speaker 1: It's like, if you sue, it's like, I mean, I
29:31
Speaker 1: don't know if that bridge is ever going to be unburned,
29:33
Speaker 1: but it kind of really burns the bridge absolutely. I
29:36
Speaker 1: mean I feel like there's no bridge. There's no the bridge. Yeah,
29:39
Speaker 1: over the bridges, also the bridges Paris one. Yeah. Yeah,
29:43
Speaker 1: just South Bronx right here. You feel me for people
29:47
Speaker 1: who don't know, like kind of give me your like
29:50
Speaker 1: roots in terms of hip hop and like getting involved
29:53
Speaker 1: in the battle scene. You know, I've been involved in
29:55
Speaker 1: hip hop culture my whole life started. Started apping when
30:00
Speaker 1: I was fifteen in the mid nineties. Used to go
30:03
Speaker 1: to Project Bload and things like that, and just like
30:07
Speaker 1: you know, element is that on Tuesday night, Thursday, Thursday,
30:10
Speaker 1: Thursday Night. I missed the good life era. Yeah, I
30:13
Speaker 1: was too much of a kid, but I always heard
30:14
Speaker 1: about it. Yeah yeah yeah, And I was like, you know,
30:17
Speaker 1: just soaking up the game and soaking up culture. Moved
30:20
Speaker 1: born and raised in Los Angeles, moved to the Bay
30:23
Speaker 1: Area to Oakland, California, when I was nineteen, and that's
30:26
Speaker 1: really when my you know, in a career as a
30:30
Speaker 1: battle rapper started. I started off as a battle rapper,
30:33
Speaker 1: got a lot of buzz locally, and then it started
30:36
Speaker 1: to grow bigger. I was in a popular local group
30:39
Speaker 1: called Delmont crew at the time, we were pretty much
30:42
Speaker 1: in Oakland. In Oakland, anytime there would be this this
30:45
Speaker 1: is like from two thousand and three to you know,
30:49
Speaker 1: that's like yeah, straight Hyphie era. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So
30:51
Speaker 1: we were there. I was there for the whole entire
30:53
Speaker 1: hype movement and kind of like what we were as
30:56
Speaker 1: a crew. Shout to my brothers Plex Rock and Ajax.
31:00
Speaker 1: We were like kind of no no, no, no no no no,
31:03
Speaker 1: Like we were like like, if you saw the way
31:06
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31:07
Speaker 1: regular Hyphie rappers, but we were super lyrical and like
31:11
Speaker 1: we would do like boom bap tracks and then we
31:13
Speaker 1: would do like Hyphie turn up shit like too. Like
31:15
Speaker 1: we had music with mister Fab and all that, and
31:17
Speaker 1: we had music with Hiro and you know, Sean Price
31:21
Speaker 1: for the first group from Oakland to do a song
31:23
Speaker 1: with RP Sean Peah. Yeah. So yeah, and that was
31:27
Speaker 1: like a whole thing, and then it wound up. The
31:30
Speaker 1: battle rap things started popping off, and at a certain
31:33
Speaker 1: point in two thousand and eight, I linked up with
31:37
Speaker 1: this company called grind Time, which was like the first
31:40
Speaker 1: prominent battle rap fixture on YouTube, and it got to
31:44
Speaker 1: the point where and they started in Florida. Me being
31:47
Speaker 1: from the West Coast, it was like, look, I know
31:50
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31:53
Speaker 1: better as like a curator of culture and organizer and
31:58
Speaker 1: a host and like just like kind of you know,
32:00
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32:02
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32:04
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32:06
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32:09
Speaker 1: essentially you got brought on to grind time to help
32:12
Speaker 1: bring events together. Yeah, and I wounds. Yeah. And this
32:16
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32:19
Speaker 1: We were on the front page of World Star. Every
32:21
Speaker 1: drop that we had wound up blowing up, you know
32:23
Speaker 1: I remember that. Yeah, people like disaster, dumbfounded, no can
32:27
Speaker 1: do like all, you know, a lot of the the
32:29
Speaker 1: great lyricists of the West Coast and then Daylight like
32:32
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32:35
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32:38
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32:45
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32:47
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32:50
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32:53
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32:55
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32:57
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33:02
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33:05
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33:09
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33:11
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33:13
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33:18
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33:21
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33:23
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33:26
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33:29
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33:32
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Speaker 1: And because it elevates your sex a little. It did,
37:00
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37:03
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37:06
Speaker 1: years old, twelve actually is when I first started getting
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Speaker 1: eye to the point where I had to relearn how
37:11
Speaker 1: to do everything so normally. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, like you
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Speaker 1: boom there it is state dependent dependent learning hashtag that
37:22
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Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like you just have to
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37:46
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37:55
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38:01
Speaker 1: here's the thing. Crack is like same ship. It's like
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Speaker 1: You got to work your way up to that crack
38:23
Speaker 1: when you first you know, the first time you smoke crack,
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Speaker 1: you yeah it's lit. Yeah, But I would say like,
38:30
Speaker 1: and honestly, psychedelics like to me, felt the best first
38:35
Speaker 1: time I shroomed out. Yeah, like, I love that. I
38:38
Speaker 1: love psychedelics for sure. Yeah, I've never tried crack. I
38:40
Speaker 1: don't plan on it. Don't do it. I won't. I won't,
38:43
Speaker 1: don't do it, don't do it. I gotta stay away. Man.
38:46
Speaker 1: My whole family is on that ship, so you know,
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Speaker 1: you can live vicariously through my past. But yeah, Crystal
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Speaker 1: math was another one that felt really good when I
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Speaker 1: I was in another spot called the Prescott House Prescott, yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 1: don't say Prescott, it's precos you Prescott's Yeah, a bunch
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39:41
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39:43
Speaker 1: to your own content, And what are the good things
39:44
Speaker 1: that you've learned too, because you, I mean, obviously Adams
39:46
Speaker 1: have built the powerhouse. Yeah, absolutely, Like I've learned a
39:49
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39:53
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40:06
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40:09
Speaker 1: when it's getting redundant, what's gonna be interesting, How not
40:13
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40:17
Speaker 1: a hundred times, there's a whole And so I learned
40:20
Speaker 1: the entire craft of podcasting and I'm fairly decent at
40:24
Speaker 1: it at this point. I'm grateful for that. So you're
40:27
Speaker 1: gonna be how many days a week are you gonna
40:29
Speaker 1: be doing content? I'm gonna be doing content three days
40:32
Speaker 1: a week. Nice. So, but I'm gonna be focused on
40:36
Speaker 1: focusing on it a lot more. But really my primary
40:39
Speaker 1: focus all that aside my brother Disaster and I. We
40:42
Speaker 1: have our Battle Rap League gt X, which is the
40:44
Speaker 1: continuation of grind Time, and that's been That's what I
40:49
Speaker 1: was doing before the whole podcasting thing took off. And
40:52
Speaker 1: you know, like this is my passion and my roots
40:55
Speaker 1: are in the battle rap culture, and I'm it's an
40:58
Speaker 1: honor to be back. We got our first event of
41:00
Speaker 1: the year called the Lot in a few North Holly
41:02
Speaker 1: in North Hollywood. Yeah, who's battling. We got Disaster Verus Next,
41:06
Speaker 1: we got Denny Myers versus dev the Demon. We got
41:10
Speaker 1: Active versus real name Brandon and a litany of other
41:15
Speaker 1: fire ass battles, botead ass. What is the business model
41:18
Speaker 1: of the battle leak thing? Are you guys making money
41:20
Speaker 1: off of pay per views? You guys, I mean obviously
41:21
Speaker 1: you're making hard ticket money, I'm sure, but like I know,
41:24
Speaker 1: a lot of these guys, they demand a purse. Yes, right, yeah,
41:27
Speaker 1: you gotta fire. I'd always was a little confused about how,
41:32
Speaker 1: like how the business model of a battle works. Well,
41:35
Speaker 1: you kind of got to think of it in a
41:36
Speaker 1: similar vein to boxing or MMA. So you guys have
41:39
Speaker 1: a pay per view site. We have a pay per
41:41
Speaker 1: view site. We're work in conjunction with a company called
41:43
Speaker 1: rap Grid that does paper. But all you got to
41:45
Speaker 1: do is go to our website GTX Battles dot com
41:48
Speaker 1: and you can there's links to the paper. People gonna
41:50
Speaker 1: can watch it from wherever. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But
41:54
Speaker 1: the as far as the business model goes things such
41:57
Speaker 1: as pay per view and you know, ticket sales and
42:00
Speaker 1: all that, that's kind of just feeding the event and
42:03
Speaker 1: making sure that we're able to sustain ourselves. What we
42:06
Speaker 1: do is covers the cost. Right. We partner with any
42:09
Speaker 1: brand that wants business. We sell eyeballs, you know, so
42:13
Speaker 1: you can got millions of people and a concentrated demographic.
42:16
Speaker 1: Any of you companies want some eyeballs, we got them. Yeah.
42:20
Speaker 1: I just saw what was the battle that just happened
42:23
Speaker 1: that s and Cassidy Brat. Yeah that was the you
42:26
Speaker 1: were there. I was there. Yeah, I go yeah, daylight
42:30
Speaker 1: versus King Boo. And who do you think is the goat?
42:34
Speaker 1: My brother sitting on the sitting on the couch over there,
42:37
Speaker 1: goat is sitting on the damn couch scrolling Reddit, there's
42:43
Speaker 1: a you know, if it's disasters, who else who's it? Like?
42:47
Speaker 1: Who's in that like four or five? Yeah? R I
42:51
Speaker 1: p to past day? He definitely Yeah, yeah past day
42:54
Speaker 1: one thousand percent. He just passed away last year I did,
42:57
Speaker 1: he did. Yeah, a bad situation. Yeah, Shasa shoutsa Pats
43:01
Speaker 1: Day and the whole KOTD family. I'll say this, the
43:05
Speaker 1: West coast, the West coast, Mount Rushmore, there is there's
43:10
Speaker 1: a disaster. There's Geeche Gotti, rum Nitty Denny Myers Daylight.
43:16
Speaker 1: So there's a five man you know, that's the crew.
43:19
Speaker 1: I'll put the saurus in immaculate. Yeah, passwords like, there's
43:24
Speaker 1: very strong top eight on the West coast now, b
43:29
Speaker 1: dot probably I would throw up there too. There's there's
43:32
Speaker 1: now As far as the overall landscape of the culture,
43:35
Speaker 1: you got Disaster, you got loaded Lux, you got murder, Mook,
43:41
Speaker 1: Hollow the Dawn, you got Conceded, you got Arsenal, and
43:46
Speaker 1: you got you know, those same names. The Saurus ended
43:51
Speaker 1: up making the best music because that's the one thing
43:53
Speaker 1: about battle rappers we always say. Because I always enjoyed
43:56
Speaker 1: Sue's music, I want to say surf makes my favorite
43:58
Speaker 1: music in battle rapper. But you got it. Like, the
44:01
Speaker 1: thing is this, every single rapper has battled at some point.
44:06
Speaker 1: Eminem was a battle rapper, you know what I mean
44:10
Speaker 1: a lot of so everybody. Yeah, yeah, everyone's battled at
44:14
Speaker 1: some point, whether it's in the cafeteria, whether it was
44:17
Speaker 1: on camera or not. The question right right, But from
44:19
Speaker 1: like the battle rap scene, I would say that, Yeah,
44:23
Speaker 1: Suser definitely has the strongest catalog, dude, because I remember
44:26
Speaker 1: seeing Supernatural when I was a little kid. I think
44:28
Speaker 1: he opened up like wan to dilate his tours just
44:31
Speaker 1: blew my fucking mind. Three words. But I'd never seen
44:35
Speaker 1: that before. Right where he was like taking people's IDs
44:37
Speaker 1: and ship he was spinning around and coming back as
44:39
Speaker 1: exhibit or bust the rhymes or whatever. Right, and and
44:43
Speaker 1: his music wasn't great, Well that's the thing, Like yeah,
44:46
Speaker 1: like he and it hurt my heart because I was like,
44:49
Speaker 1: this is the greatest rapper I've ever seen about life
44:51
Speaker 1: is not a mutually exclusive skill set, true, you know.
44:54
Speaker 1: And even like a lot of the guys that are
44:57
Speaker 1: just great barsmiths, you know, dudes that well you'll have
45:00
Speaker 1: on your podcast that will kill it, Are you really
45:03
Speaker 1: slapping all their music? Probably not, you know, or I
45:06
Speaker 1: grew up, you know what's crazy. I got to the
45:08
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45:10
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45:12
Speaker 1: it wasn't like super over lyrical, I would like look
45:15
Speaker 1: down on it, like it's like commercial bullshit, right right,
45:18
Speaker 1: we all went through that phase. But now I'm like,
45:21
Speaker 1: I just want to enjoy the music, man, right. And
45:24
Speaker 1: then there's there's people that are able to blend all
45:26
Speaker 1: that kind of together and do it all together, like
45:28
Speaker 1: Kendrick or like Kendrick J. Cole push your team again,
45:31
Speaker 1: like yeah, and even like at the end of the day. Really, lyricism,
45:37
Speaker 1: like songwriting and lyricism are two different things. People think
45:40
Speaker 1: that just because you can put bars together, it means
45:42
Speaker 1: you know how to craft a record. There's a whole
45:45
Speaker 1: bunch of different nuances, you know, yeah, for sure. And
45:49
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45:51
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45:55
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45:58
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46:00
Speaker 1: To revert back to a previous question you asked, what
46:04
Speaker 1: would I do differently? I definitely would not let the
46:09
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46:14
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46:16
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46:18
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46:21
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46:25
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46:27
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46:52
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49:01
Speaker 1: ever find out who this ghost reddit guy is? Ghost
49:04
Speaker 1: Reddit guys? The guy was the Reddit guy you were
49:06
Speaker 1: supposed to be talking to it? Oh, guilty guilty, not
49:10
Speaker 1: ghosts ghost guilty. I do not know guilty is to
49:13
Speaker 1: this day Jesus now yet. And that was in a
49:16
Speaker 1: Discord server. Oh see, all the ship is bro fuddy.
49:20
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I always thought Discord. I was on Discord once,
49:23
Speaker 1: and it was because I'm a part of the I
49:25
Speaker 1: talked about this. I was on there's like this flip
49:28
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49:30
Speaker 1: what you could flip it for, right right right, And
49:32
Speaker 1: it was I had to download Discord and and then
49:34
Speaker 1: I guess it's for gaming and ship. I guess all
49:36
Speaker 1: different kinds of ship. Yeah, yeah, Discord is good. It's
49:38
Speaker 1: a build a community, very valuable tool, like I'm is
49:41
Speaker 1: there a bootleg keV reddit community? Or I don't want
49:45
Speaker 1: that ship? I feel you don't make one. We're good, Yeah,
49:52
Speaker 1: we're good, buddy. I learned. I learned a lot, though,
49:55
Speaker 1: and I'm grateful for it. And you know, have you
49:57
Speaker 1: talked to Adam since? I? Have I spoken to Adams
50:01
Speaker 1: since the morning after that all went down, because I
50:06
Speaker 1: was kind of like I wasn't even really one hundred
50:08
Speaker 1: percent sure if I were, even though I was like
50:11
Speaker 1: it was still yeah, but it was like you just
50:13
Speaker 1: went off what you saw on that stream and could
50:15
Speaker 1: be like open ended. It was. It was done out,
50:17
Speaker 1: it was done out of passion, like let me see
50:19
Speaker 1: if there's any reasoning with this guy. In the morning,
50:22
Speaker 1: sometimes people feel a little bit different. You know, I
50:25
Speaker 1: sent him a text. He was just kind of like, hey,
50:29
Speaker 1: you know, that's it. But he what he did say
50:33
Speaker 1: was I'm not gonna be bad mouthing you or slandering you,
50:38
Speaker 1: and I was like, okay, cool, neither will. I then
50:41
Speaker 1: proceeded to call me a snake multiple times on several
50:46
Speaker 1: different podcasts and talked down on me. So it's kind
50:50
Speaker 1: of like, you know, I don't have any hate in
50:52
Speaker 1: my heart towards him. But I'm a little confused by that.
50:55
Speaker 1: What about Josh. Josh and I have texted on about
51:00
Speaker 1: business a couple of times, but check. That's kind of
51:04
Speaker 1: like but that's essentially like the end of you know,
51:07
Speaker 1: and I'm cool Josh. I have no problem with ultimately,
51:10
Speaker 1: and so at the end of the days, you know,
51:13
Speaker 1: we we all straight. I still talk to a d
51:16
Speaker 1: I still talk to tral house phone everybody. They'll be
51:20
Speaker 1: appearing on my pod occasionally. I might make some appearances
51:24
Speaker 1: over there. Have you. I know you've just talked to
51:26
Speaker 1: Smack this morning. I know you've been doing your I
51:29
Speaker 1: saw who's the white guy you're on camera with on
51:35
Speaker 1: you It's like it's a YouTube channel. It's that YouTube channel,
51:37
Speaker 1: oh ruin your Day. Yeah, okay, so like have you
51:41
Speaker 1: already started your your actual I have my own individual
51:45
Speaker 1: channel that's lush World. Yeah no, so lush World is
51:48
Speaker 1: actually be cause here's the thing. That channel, that ruin
51:50
Speaker 1: your Day channel is something that I've been active in
51:55
Speaker 1: actively a part of building since like twenty fifteen. So
51:58
Speaker 1: you already were a part of that, yeah, yeah, you
52:01
Speaker 1: know and helped build a lot of the subs up.
52:04
Speaker 1: And then when I, you know, had a discussion with him,
52:06
Speaker 1: is this is going to be my home on YouTube
52:09
Speaker 1: for curating content since there's already an audience built in.
52:12
Speaker 1: Business wise, him and I have an understanding and so
52:16
Speaker 1: I consider that channel as much mine as anybody else's. Okay,
52:20
Speaker 1: So then that's where the Lush world stuff's going. Yeah,
52:22
Speaker 1: Lush Rold's over there. There's a GTX channel for battles,
52:25
Speaker 1: there's I have my own channel for music. So yeah,
52:29
Speaker 1: are you still gonna make music? I'm I'm always gonna
52:31
Speaker 1: make music. That's a that's just a part of who
52:34
Speaker 1: I am, you know what I mean. Like I got
52:35
Speaker 1: my distribution deal with my label with John Arbano and
52:39
Speaker 1: Marissa Orbano called snow Cone Records, which is we under
52:43
Speaker 1: Sony Orchard, so like you know, but it's not paying
52:46
Speaker 1: the bills. But occasionally I'll get a placement and it'll
52:50
Speaker 1: pop up, like I just got a placement in the show.
52:52
Speaker 1: Like you would do it for free? I would always
52:55
Speaker 1: I would do it for free. Probably recently got a
52:56
Speaker 1: placement in a film called Sick, which is on the
53:00
Speaker 1: Peacock Network, So you know, get a little bag here
53:02
Speaker 1: and there, and when you got your teeth done? Yeah,
53:06
Speaker 1: did you do it here? Did you go to different car?
53:07
Speaker 1: I did hear? Oh you did? Yeah? Yeah yeah. And
53:10
Speaker 1: these are actually temporaries that are gonna be people who
53:13
Speaker 1: don't know because are you are you doing the implants? Yeah?
53:16
Speaker 1: These these are so right? Now is a bridge. I
53:18
Speaker 1: have a bridge on top and a bridge on the bottom.
53:20
Speaker 1: It's not like dentures. I can't take you. You're gonna
53:22
Speaker 1: gets right, yeah. Yeah, And so you're not even getting veneers. No, no, no, no,
53:27
Speaker 1: they didn't. I have no real boys. Yeah yeah, I
53:29
Speaker 1: have no teeth left on the top or the bottom
53:31
Speaker 1: in between my caneines. They cemented a bridge and so
53:34
Speaker 1: temporary that's there. And I'll just tell you're gonna be
53:37
Speaker 1: out for a while. I'll tell you this though, Bootleg Keev,
53:39
Speaker 1: the pussy quotient is through the roof. Good for you
53:42
Speaker 1: knocking them down there. I'm glad to hear it. I'm
53:45
Speaker 1: knocking them down. Where are you finding them? Redit they
53:47
Speaker 1: finding me? They finding me? It's crazy, like I don't know.
53:52
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, Jesus Christ, we gotta get this valcrow.
53:56
Speaker 1: You gotta get it cemented like my damn teeth. For sure.
53:59
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, I always what are are no
54:02
Speaker 1: jumper groupies or battle wrap groupies? Are they? Like? What
54:06
Speaker 1: kind of because I would say the ugliest groupies in
54:08
Speaker 1: the world are Juggalos. Yeah. Yeah, like ICP's groupies. God
54:11
Speaker 1: bless them. Just talk about fuck it speaking of meth
54:14
Speaker 1: Jesus Christ. Yeah, I'm not trying to have an orgy
54:17
Speaker 1: at the gathering. Yeah, no disrespect to the my Juggalos
54:20
Speaker 1: you feel, Yeah, shout out, I love y'all. Have you
54:23
Speaker 1: been to the gathering? I have not. I would love
54:25
Speaker 1: to go to the gathering. I heard there's a drug tent. Yeah,
54:28
Speaker 1: I know there's a drug bridge, I believe it. And
54:30
Speaker 1: then there's like a TP where there's just a bitch
54:33
Speaker 1: in there, the gang, the orgy, the orgy tent. What's
54:35
Speaker 1: that like? Welfare bumblebee tuna, child molestation, Yeah, like a
54:43
Speaker 1: kind of a bit of all that. Yeah, twenty seven
54:46
Speaker 1: year old chicken there who got fucked by her uncle
54:47
Speaker 1: and her brother at once, and now she's getting tattooed
54:51
Speaker 1: on her neck. Right. But I would say there's there's
54:55
Speaker 1: fucking second grade teachers in this world. Right now with
54:57
Speaker 1: hatchet man statooed on their body. You know, that's actually
55:00
Speaker 1: considered a very right And there's like in certain states
55:05
Speaker 1: like Utah, for I'm gonna say it's Utah. Yeah, yeah,
55:08
Speaker 1: they're very well versed. So I love the Juggalos as well.
55:12
Speaker 1: There I don't love them, but you know, I'm fascinated.
55:15
Speaker 1: But there's a differences fascinated by serial killers. There's seventeen percenters,
55:21
Speaker 1: but they're in Utah. In Utah, there was some Juggalo
55:27
Speaker 1: wound up killing Sereno and now there's a fucking green
55:32
Speaker 1: light in the Utah penitentiary system for anybody with the
55:37
Speaker 1: hatchetman tat. So I've been told. So the South Sider
55:40
Speaker 1: has got beef with the Juggals in Utah. Yes, And
55:42
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's still a thing, but this was, Yeah,
55:45
Speaker 1: that's interesting. Yeah, and you can they're Juggalo Mormons or
55:51
Speaker 1: South Side Mormons. I don't know. But and just to
55:53
Speaker 1: make it clear, this is not something that I'm bringing
55:56
Speaker 1: to the Internet. This is something that's already known. If
55:59
Speaker 1: you you know, tap into from places you t have
56:01
Speaker 1: you have you ever done a battle in you I've
56:02
Speaker 1: been to Salt like, yeah, it's cool. It's fun out there,
56:05
Speaker 1: is it? It is? But as far as groupies, I'll
56:07
Speaker 1: tell you this, No Jumper groupies are levels beyond the
56:12
Speaker 1: battle rap groupies. Yeah, yeah, they are. Gotta be honest.
56:15
Speaker 1: Can you imagine the kind of chick that just is
56:17
Speaker 1: like every battle she's there, just there. There's like some
56:20
Speaker 1: cute ones. I'm not gonna lie like we you know,
56:22
Speaker 1: like there's some cute battle rap chicks, but it's definitely
56:26
Speaker 1: like the the bitches that are the bitches that are
56:29
Speaker 1: in in the No Jumper a lot of them were
56:32
Speaker 1: aspiring only fans models, you know what I mean? Like,
56:35
Speaker 1: did you ever get any porn chick pussy over there?
56:37
Speaker 1: Oh yeah yeah yeah, just just being over there? Yeah, absolutely, yeah,
56:42
Speaker 1: anybody would talk about nothing. I can. You know what
56:45
Speaker 1: I don't want to do you ever take on the
56:46
Speaker 1: Asian chick with the ass? Look here's it. No, I
56:48
Speaker 1: did not. But here's the thing. If I wind up Kazumi,
56:51
Speaker 1: yeah yeah you never Zuomi. No, But like if I did,
56:55
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say because here's the thing that makes me
56:57
Speaker 1: look super lame. I'm not gonna not gonna speak on
57:00
Speaker 1: my dick. And then what other bitches that might be
57:03
Speaker 1: interested in throwing me some pushy they yoused. This ude
57:07
Speaker 1: got a big mouth. Accumulative body count too. The body
57:10
Speaker 1: count is one thing. But like he's he's gonna put
57:13
Speaker 1: me on blast, I will never put you on blast,
57:16
Speaker 1: baby girl. So you're single, I'm singing a little currently
57:19
Speaker 1: good for you? Man? Yeah? Yeah, Well listen, man, I
57:22
Speaker 1: was heartbroken last year. You feel me I got? Was
57:24
Speaker 1: that your fiance? That was which one? Because you said
57:27
Speaker 1: your fiance was that? It broke your heart? Well, I
57:30
Speaker 1: kind of it was my fault. Yeah yeah, please pause.
57:35
Speaker 1: So so you were supposed to get married, Yes, didn't
57:38
Speaker 1: work out. Didn't work out? Who knows what the future holds. Yeah, yeah,
57:41
Speaker 1: that's what's up. Man. Well look, I'm glad you're sober.
57:43
Speaker 1: Appreciate you stay sober. No, it's a tough journey. Man.
57:46
Speaker 1: Do you go to meetings every week? I do? I
57:48
Speaker 1: do several times a week. She get the coins and
57:51
Speaker 1: all that. Yep, got my three year coin about a
57:53
Speaker 1: month and a half. Was my sobriety birthday is February third. Wow.
57:57
Speaker 1: Well congrats man, stay sober, buddy, got to and keep uh,
58:01
Speaker 1: just one thing I'll tell you man is. I know
58:04
Speaker 1: it's very easy, and we already talked about this a
58:07
Speaker 1: bit earlier. Don't pay attention to the comments, and don't
58:10
Speaker 1: pay attention to what anybody else is doing, because I'm
58:13
Speaker 1: sure it's easy to look over and be like, oh shit,
58:16
Speaker 1: this is happening over here. This is just worry about
58:19
Speaker 1: building your own shit brick by brick. Don't compare Dix
58:21
Speaker 1: of the Gang Bang. For sure, you feel me. But
58:25
Speaker 1: with that being said, with that being said, keV, it's
58:30
Speaker 1: cool to actually chop it up with you. Get to
58:32
Speaker 1: know you. You You feel me, sir. You might have more
58:33
Speaker 1: in common than I initially even both old white dudes
58:37
Speaker 1: who like Ratten music. Yeah you feel me? So how
58:39
Speaker 1: old are you? I'm forty one, Okay, I'm thirty six.
58:41
Speaker 1: So do you know where? Yeah? Yeah, well you know, yeah,
58:45
Speaker 1: we definitely are both just old dusty hip hop. You
58:47
Speaker 1: feel me spinning dusty pieces of wax, you know the vibes.
58:50
Speaker 1: Come appreciate you, brother man, Yeah you as well, Sir Boo,