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The Bachelor of Paradise · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast
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Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio.
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Speaker 2: It's time for another episode of the Almost Famous podcast.
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Speaker 2: We were so pumped to be here. It is Bachelor
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Speaker 2: in Paradise time. We are here, just ready to dive in. Ashley,
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Speaker 2: I will describe this episode in my opinion as less chaos.
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Speaker 2: It was not so confusing to me. This actually fell
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Speaker 2: us like a very like old school Paradise episode to me,
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Speaker 2: well pulled.
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Speaker 3: There was nothing that left me going hmmm, except okay,
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Speaker 3: this one thing Tanner giving Rachel de Rose was a
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Speaker 3: HM for me, just because he had that amazing date
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Speaker 3: with Davia or so he said, yeah this okay, I
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Speaker 3: would I would agree with you.
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Speaker 2: For the most part, this episode felt very straightforward, and
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Speaker 2: sometimes those hmmm moments are really good in Paradise because
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Speaker 2: they keep us wondering, questioning. The problem I think that
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Speaker 2: we've seen so far this season is this storytelling doesn't
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Speaker 2: feel complete because we don't know where Dobby and Tanner
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Speaker 2: went wrong. They were very strong. He was very okay
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Speaker 2: dropping Cat. Maybe he just wanted to drop Cat. It
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Speaker 2: could be, but I just wish we knew why that
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Speaker 2: that relationship did not flourish.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, totally agree.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, totally agree, and like it really start, all
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Speaker 3: the girls who came in last week ended up leaving,
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Speaker 3: so it was like, why do we even.
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Speaker 4: Have last week?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and then we never got the storylines of why
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Speaker 2: those relationships that felt so beautiful and romantic and perfect
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Speaker 2: during their dates, why they didn't stay together through this week?
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Speaker 3: Like yeah, like Blake, look, Blake, who had a great
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Speaker 3: date with Genevieve.
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Speaker 4: Jess was like, nope, Jess, let's do this.
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Speaker 2: And Jess is making out with Tyler. We don't know
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Speaker 2: where that goes because he's back horses and.
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Speaker 3: Meads, so just we don't address it. Just he made
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Speaker 3: out with Jess and then but Mercedes is his girl.
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Speaker 2: So I don't know. I just feel like we're getting
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Speaker 2: incomplete stories and that doesn't feel good for me because
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Speaker 2: I'm having to make a lot of assumptions, and you know,
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Speaker 2: when I make assumptions, they typically aren't right, and so
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Speaker 2: I don't know what's happening. Anyways, let's start at the
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Speaker 2: beginning of this episode. We do come off of last
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Speaker 2: week's episode, I think, intrigued at what relationships would stay together.
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Speaker 2: We had talked during last week's episode that it felt
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Speaker 2: like most of these relationships were not strong. In fact,
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Speaker 2: we couldn't really name one that we were that confident
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Speaker 2: would be together at the end. Charity lost and does
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Speaker 2: come down to the beach, and that's when she brings
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Speaker 2: up the Aaron B situation with Eliza. Eliza is shooken
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Speaker 2: by the news, and Aaron B is confused and he
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Speaker 2: gives a very poor explanation for how this whole thing
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Speaker 2: went down. So we are left going, there's no way
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Speaker 2: this continues, like it just feels like it's on a
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Speaker 2: dead end. However, we do see and we pick up
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Speaker 2: this storyline at the first of the episode.
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Speaker 4: And it all kind of just.
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Speaker 3: It becomes not a big deal because then they kind
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Speaker 3: of admit that.
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Speaker 4: We don't know the whole story. We only have DMS
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Speaker 4: from this girl.
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Speaker 3: She's a quote disgruntled x yeah, and we can only
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Speaker 3: you know, we have two sides of the story here,
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Speaker 3: and we only know one of these people, and that
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Speaker 3: is Aaron. So eventually it seems like Charity and Eliza
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Speaker 3: both kind of say, Okay, if this is what you're saying,
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Speaker 3: then we're going to choose to believe you. But Eliza
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Speaker 3: does say like all right, I'm choosing to believe you,
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Speaker 3: but I'm also still very nervous, and I'm I'm far
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Speaker 3: more or less I'm far less confident comfortable that I
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Speaker 3: was before knowing this, because there is like a little
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Speaker 3: bit of a red flag.
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Speaker 2: Well here's my question. I have always thought Charity was amazing.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, well, obviously we love her.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, she showed great judgment, she was consistent, she was
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Speaker 2: clear and concise. My question with this is not a
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Speaker 2: criticism as much. It is me wondering if you get
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Speaker 2: home from a season and somebody has messaged you and
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Speaker 2: your family and your friends and has taken the time
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Speaker 2: to research who your family and your friends are, and
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Speaker 2: they've sent you twenty messages and all these things that
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Speaker 2: Charity is explaining to Eliza and Aaron, Yeah, why in
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Speaker 2: the world would you not go This feels like a
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Speaker 2: red flag, Like it feels like this person is out
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Speaker 2: to get Aaron. And it doesn't feel like they're like
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Speaker 2: clear of mind. It feels very disgruntled and angry.
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Speaker 4: And that's a good point.
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Speaker 2: And so why would she be bringing it up to
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Speaker 2: Kat or whoever else, Because to me, it just feels like, yeah,
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Speaker 2: this person is out for attention, maybe definitely showing signs
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Speaker 2: of being out for attention or out for some like reassurance.
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Speaker 2: But it does feel very disgruntled and a tag chaotic.
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Speaker 2: And so why would Charity say, yeah, you just need
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Speaker 2: to watch out for airon?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, why would she say anything? I don't know, because
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Speaker 3: you know what, even if Charity is wonderful, all of
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Speaker 3: us do love.
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Speaker 4: A little drama.
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Speaker 2: Well, I'm sure it's human instinct, yeah, but it does.
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Speaker 2: I think at that point, once Charity fully explained what happened,
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Speaker 2: I was like, I don't know if I could take
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Speaker 2: I don't know if I could take.
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Speaker 4: Much substance from I don't know, Yeah, I don't.
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Speaker 2: Know if I could take much substance from like what
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Speaker 2: she was saying. I just feel like I would probably
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Speaker 2: not dismiss her claims necessarily, but I'd be a lot
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Speaker 2: more confused. If she was messaging my family and friends,
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Speaker 2: I'd be like, hey, back back down a little bit,
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Speaker 2: Like you're not going to get through the.
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Speaker 4: Family and friends.
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Speaker 3: Is pretty weird because it's not like Charity ended up
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Speaker 3: with him, Like, I don't want to know the dates
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Speaker 3: of these messages. If the guy was if it was
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Speaker 3: just like wall there, she said that the phone was
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Speaker 3: away when she was getting these messages. Yeah if she yeah,
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Speaker 3: some knows. But like if she ended up with him,
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Speaker 3: then I could maybe see trying to reach out a
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Speaker 3: ton afterward and be like, Yo, you're.
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Speaker 4: With somebody who's not who they say they are.
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Speaker 3: But just just just him being on the show seems
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Speaker 3: like agrandled X type thing.
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Speaker 2: Sure, And I mean if it was over and she
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Speaker 2: was upset because it was over, again, we kind of
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Speaker 2: both agreed last week that as long as the relationship
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Speaker 2: was over, he can go on the show. I mean,
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Speaker 2: he's not doing anything wrong. If they were still together,
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Speaker 2: anyone on the show, that's a problem. It's a little weird,
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Speaker 2: a lot of weird. Yeah, But you know, I don't
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Speaker 2: think there's anything to be upset with him about. If
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Speaker 2: he went on the show to date Charity and they
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Speaker 2: ended their relationship beforehand, I don't really care if they
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Speaker 2: were dating up until the day, Like he made a
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Speaker 2: decision to leave.
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Speaker 4: You're very good with that, But I don't know.
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Speaker 2: That seems a little tacky, A little tacky, sure, I
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Speaker 2: mean probably not the way I would go about it.
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Speaker 2: But again, he made the decision to leave, and at
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Speaker 2: that point, if you're dating, you can just pretty much consider, hey,
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Speaker 2: you broke up, like yeah, and if somebody did that
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Speaker 2: to me, what I would be saying was, I'm really upset.
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Speaker 2: I think this is a really mean thing to do
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Speaker 2: to me. However, we're done, like we are moving on.
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Speaker 2: I'm hurt. I'm I'm you know, confused. I don't know
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Speaker 2: why our relationship ended like this, or that we had
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Speaker 2: no substance in this relationship to build on. But they're
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Speaker 2: gone and they went on this show and they're trying
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Speaker 2: to date this you know, really like cool lead, and
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Speaker 2: I would say it's over. I am moving on with
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Speaker 2: my life and they should too. So it feels weird
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Speaker 2: then for me to like message the lead and be like, hey,
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Speaker 2: we're dating at one point, maybe like a month before
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Speaker 2: the show, and they, you know, he told me he
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Speaker 2: loved me, and all that just feels odd. Well, Eliza
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Speaker 2: and Aaron b you know, kind of clear things up
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Speaker 2: and they're back together and he's trying hard, you can tell,
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Speaker 2: to build this relationship to the place that it was before,
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Speaker 2: because I definitely don't get the sense that it is
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Speaker 2: at a place that it once was. Maybe three days ago.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, she does say like let's sleep on this, but
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Speaker 3: then like we watch the rest of the episode, like
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Speaker 3: she sleeps on it, and she's still like with him.
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Speaker 3: Cat and John Henry are another big storyline in this episode,
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Speaker 3: because you know he is in between Kat and Olivia.
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Speaker 3: Cat's really like throwing herself at him and listen, I'm
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Speaker 3: not shocked that he ends up choosing Cat because Cat
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Speaker 3: is he's being seduced by her. I feel like Olivia is,
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Speaker 3: she's like she has more friend vibes when it comes
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Speaker 3: to John Henry and then like Cat's going around yet
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Speaker 3: I need a tongue in my mouth. So like if
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Speaker 3: you're in Paradise and you're a guy and you're not exactly.
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Speaker 4: He doesn't seem.
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Speaker 3: To be like looking for the love of his life.
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Speaker 3: That's just the vibes that he puts out, and I
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Speaker 3: think that it's probably he's just gonna want to have
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Speaker 3: a good time with Kat. Olivia is like, I really
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Speaker 3: like you.
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Speaker 2: I don't think John Henry knows what in the world
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Speaker 2: he's thinking.
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Speaker 4: He's a little spacey, right, Yeah.
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Speaker 2: I think he's just like, you know, shiny new things.
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Speaker 4: Broh.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's not I don't think. I mean, he's definitely intelligent,
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Speaker 2: but I think when it comes to dating into like
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Speaker 2: all this stuff moving around him so fast and all
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Speaker 2: these voice in his head, I think he's like, oh, okay, cool,
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Speaker 2: this works right, Like I'm good with this. Because even
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Speaker 2: when he talks to Olivia and tries to clean things up,
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Speaker 2: he he's a very sweet man. He feels bad, he
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Speaker 2: feels guilty. He is like, yeah, you know, Cat, Cat
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Speaker 2: just wants to make it out there, and that sounds
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Speaker 2: fun right now. I don't know, see, I don't think
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Speaker 2: he's doing this necessarily to hurt anybody or hurt himself.
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Speaker 2: I am still very concerned that I was really hoping.
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Speaker 2: I don't know if this is evil of me. Actually,
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Speaker 2: I was really hoping. In this episode, some like new
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Speaker 2: really attractive dude walks down the beach and Kat's like, okay,
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Speaker 2: I'm going after him.
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Speaker 3: I just wanted to see her flip flop again.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I kind of did. Is that weird?
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Speaker 3: No, it's fine. It's fun to watch. She's wild TV,
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Speaker 3: and so is Olivia. So that's why it's kind of
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Speaker 3: fun to have them pair it against each other because
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Speaker 3: they just are the best when it comes to talking.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, they're really good at it. Well, I would say
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Speaker 2: Kat is not very good at it, but she's down
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Speaker 2: to do it. Like she's going to scream about that. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: Like she's not like making great like points and she's
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Speaker 2: not closing out arguments and she's not like putting somebody
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Speaker 2: in their place. She's just down to like be really
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Speaker 2: confident in like her opinion. And it's hard to argue
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Speaker 2: with when you're like, yeah, you know, you can't. You
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Speaker 2: can't argue with that kind of stuff because it makes
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Speaker 2: no sense what she's saying. And I think she at
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Speaker 2: some point she Kat has to admit and she hasn't yet,
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Speaker 2: and it's wild to me. She has to admit that
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Speaker 2: she's just down to disrupt and cause chaos and that
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Speaker 2: she has flip flopped and that she is just like
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Speaker 2: really like okay with other people being upset with her.
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Speaker 2: She won't admit it yet on the show, but she
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Speaker 2: has to admit that that, like the theme has to
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Speaker 2: show that she is doing this.
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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, oh for sure.
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Speaker 3: Let's get to the cocktail party where we first get
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Speaker 3: news that this is so embarrassing.
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Speaker 4: That Simple was finally pooped.
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Speaker 2: Good for I'm glad.
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Speaker 3: Sorry, this is like a week later, and I know
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Speaker 3: that they dragged this out that she had pooped prior
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Speaker 3: to this moment.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, if it went two full weeks posts after, like
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Speaker 2: there's no way. And like at this point I said
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Speaker 2: it last time, Like I'm done talking about it. It's stupid,
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Speaker 2: you know, I feel bad for the girl. She has
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Speaker 2: to make jokes about it. It's just, you know, if
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Speaker 2: we have like people, you know, really popular people from
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Speaker 2: the franchise who are known for something, So this is
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Speaker 2: what she's gonna be known for. And that's just sad
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Speaker 2: to me, but good for congratulations. Everybody collaps. Everybody's like, yeah,
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Speaker 2: that makes sense. We're glad it happened she went home
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Speaker 2: to do that.
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Speaker 3: We move on, Okay, we move on to Justin Blake,
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Speaker 3: and like we said at the top of the show,
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Speaker 3: we are wondering what happened with their respective relationships last week,
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Speaker 3: the Genevie date and the kiss with Tyler, just like
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Speaker 3: it's all in now on Blake and they kind of
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Speaker 3: make it official at this cocktail party that they are
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Speaker 3: in this together, which, of course lo and behold, Katie
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Speaker 3: will walk down next week, which we've been waiting for
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Speaker 3: for freaking weeks. I think it's going to shake him up,
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Speaker 3: but I don't think it's going to do anything serious.
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Speaker 2: No, I mean I think the tea serious about his
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Speaker 2: dramatics is going to get I mean, Katie probably comes down.
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Speaker 2: I don't I don't think.
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Speaker 3: She's there to have a date card in her hand.
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Speaker 3: She did a great job conviciting us that she was
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Speaker 3: going to date.
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Speaker 2: Go then what would be the point just to shake.
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Speaker 4: Out just a freaking out.
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Speaker 2: I guess that seems weird maybe, but it does feel
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Speaker 2: like Blake and just kind of have that moment of
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Speaker 2: clarity of no, this is really good. She says like
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Speaker 2: I miss you touching me, I miss you holding me.
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Speaker 2: And then they kiss and he's like, let's I'm in
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Speaker 2: for this thing now, Like they probably needed this to
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Speaker 2: get to where they're at now. I'm actually not going
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Speaker 2: to be shocked if they end up together.
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Speaker 3: Well, they're not going to get engaged, but I think
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Speaker 3: it could be one now, but it could be one
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Speaker 3: of those relationship. Yeah, I would like to do you
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Speaker 3: want to do one hundred dollars?
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Speaker 2: That was the think, like a dollar wowsh I have
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Speaker 2: to buy Let's calm down a bit. I'm hurting these days.
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Speaker 2: Well we'll see, we'll put a bed.
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Speaker 3: He doesn't want to put a bet on it, and
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Speaker 3: well we'll bet you know what, we can bet massage
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Speaker 3: a shoulder from next time I see you.
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Speaker 2: I'm good with that. I love that.
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Speaker 3: I'm gonna win this strange of us we have. You guys,
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Speaker 3: you wouldn't understand. Ben goes around massages everybody's shoulders every
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Speaker 3: time he sees them. I'm surprised I didn't see you
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Speaker 3: rubbing shoulders this week.
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Speaker 2: It's my way of giving a hug.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's so sweet.
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Speaker 4: He's the best at it, like the absolute best.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that is my way of giving a hug. That
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Speaker 2: just and Blake will get engaged.
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Speaker 3: Okay, good for you.
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Speaker 2: So yeah, so we see them kind of come back together. Obviously,
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Speaker 2: that leaves Genevie in a very bad predicament because it's
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Speaker 2: so late in the night and she hasn't really focused
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Speaker 2: on anybody else, and she's just brand new to the
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Speaker 2: beach and there isn't really that many options available to
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Speaker 2: end up with, you know.
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Speaker 3: So anyways, Tanner and is kissing, and how Tanner kissed
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Speaker 3: three girls?
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Speaker 4: Was it three or four? He ends up.
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Speaker 2: Kissing he's the one that wants a tongue in his mouth.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, okay.
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Speaker 3: So he kisses Rachel because she ends up getting his rose,
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Speaker 3: and I was like, okay, maybe I can feel this.
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Speaker 3: But he also kisses Davia and he says that that
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Speaker 3: kiss that he had with her was the most passionate
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Speaker 3: he's ever had, but that doesn't go give her the rose.
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Speaker 3: So Tanner is definitely the Bachelor of Paradise right now.
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Speaker 2: I do want to know what happens to his relationship.
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Speaker 2: He goes on a beautiful date with Davia and it
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Speaker 2: feels like those two are a couple, and yet then
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Speaker 2: all of a sudden, they're not a couple, and she
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Speaker 2: doesn't seem that upset or confused by it. I know
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Speaker 2: I would be mad, mad, so mad.
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Speaker 4: Very weird, very weird.
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Speaker 3: And then Olivia and John Henry have a conversation where
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Speaker 3: basically she says like I can't stand Cat, and then
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Speaker 3: he's trying to like break the news gently to her
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Speaker 3: that like that's unfortunate because I really like Cat.
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Speaker 2: I mean, here's a deal, Johnny.
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Speaker 3: I'm so sorry about that. It's gonna make it worse
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Speaker 3: that I'm gonna give you her the rose.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's just I mean, this poor dude is gonna
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Speaker 2: I mean, he is getting torn up in the cyclone
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Speaker 2: that is paradise. He is getting spun around in circles.
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Speaker 2: He's gonna get spit out in the most an opportune place.
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Speaker 2: And here's the other thing. I would agree with you earlier, Ashley,
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Speaker 2: if you're like he's just there to have a good time,
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Speaker 2: I don't think he is.
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Speaker 4: Really. Why does he feel like just surfer bro who's
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Speaker 4: just like.
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Speaker 2: Down to have fun Because he says the words to Kat,
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Speaker 2: I could see us being together after this. Do you
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Speaker 2: feel that too.
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Speaker 4: It's a weird couple.
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Speaker 2: We all know they're not gonna be we're not gonna
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Speaker 2: be together. But I think he's in it. Like, I
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Speaker 2: think he is infatuated with something that she's doing. I
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Speaker 2: think she is has him wrapped up and he is
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Speaker 2: gonna get spit out. I don't know when or how,
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Speaker 2: but I mean, I'm only basing this on the fact
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Speaker 2: that the trends so far is these dudes get wrapped
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Speaker 2: up and spit out, and then they're on the beach,
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Speaker 2: either crying or angry. And then she's moved on and
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Speaker 2: they're like lost little puppies.
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Speaker 3: Ben, I'm thinking that maybe it doesn't make sense, so
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Speaker 3: maybe it should make sense because she is such a
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Speaker 3: dominant figure.
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Speaker 4: She's going to be the dominant in every fifty shades
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Speaker 4: of krit type way.
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Speaker 3: But she's gonna be that personality in any relationship that
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Speaker 3: she's in. So maybe she needs a guy that is
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Speaker 3: more of like a whatever.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just cool. I'm just glad to be here.
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Speaker 2: And you want my tongue down your throat because I
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Speaker 2: can do that. I can provide, I can provide that.
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Speaker 2: I got you want to you want to see my piercing.
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Speaker 4: Oh that's right. He was so into his tongue piercing.
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Speaker 3: Just it's why I kind of like hope that these
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Speaker 3: two make it into a fantasy so just so that
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Speaker 3: we can like get all the indo undo. Anyway, the
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Speaker 3: other weird thing that happens at the Rose ceremony is
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Speaker 3: that right when they're about to start, Becca, who Braiden
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Speaker 3: went on the date with last week, is nowhere to
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Speaker 3: be found.
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Speaker 2: That's such a weird scene.
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Speaker 4: We started this.
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Speaker 3: Episode being like this episode wasn't confusing at all, and
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Speaker 3: now we're realizing super confusing.
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Speaker 2: Wow, it wasn't confusing to me because the relationships on
18:41
Speaker 2: the beach had like a little clear like vision to them,
18:46
Speaker 2: like we knew kind of the relationships and where they
18:48
Speaker 2: are going for the most part, other than maybe Tanner
18:51
Speaker 2: and Davia. So the overall episode, I didn't leave being
18:54
Speaker 2: like I feel like there was a lot there. I
18:56
Speaker 2: don't understand. This was just weird scene for me.
19:02
Speaker 4: You don't have any context.
19:04
Speaker 2: She's just gone.
19:07
Speaker 4: It's like, seriously so weird.
19:09
Speaker 2: No, there's like Biden Like Braiden's like I don't know
19:12
Speaker 2: what's going on either, like what like what happened here?
19:14
Speaker 3: They say producers don't know where she went, which is
19:17
Speaker 3: also I don't believe that, And we really just all
19:20
Speaker 3: it happens is that Jesse comes down, and it's like
19:23
Speaker 3: Becca left Paradise.
19:25
Speaker 4: She said that she's afraid.
19:26
Speaker 3: The only thing we get is like one little SoundBite
19:28
Speaker 3: that says she's afraid.
19:29
Speaker 4: It's not real.
19:30
Speaker 3: With Braiden, it's like, Okay, well there's other people that
19:34
Speaker 3: are definitely open, and there's other people that are gonna
19:38
Speaker 3: come down. I don't know.
19:40
Speaker 4: Maybe she was scared she was gonna get villainized, well, how.
19:43
Speaker 2: About you stick around long enough to figure out if
19:45
Speaker 2: it's real or not. I don't know. There's no pressure here,
19:48
Speaker 2: you're on a bit.
19:49
Speaker 3: I was excited because I thought that that maybe Rachel
19:52
Speaker 3: and Braiden would get back together. I mean, yes, it's
19:54
Speaker 3: gonna make it feel like Rachel's second place. Did you
19:58
Speaker 3: think that without Braidon and having Beck got to give
20:01
Speaker 3: the rose too, that he was going to give it
20:03
Speaker 3: to Rachel. Were you surprised that it ended up her
20:06
Speaker 3: rose came from Tanner and that Braiden's rose ended up
20:08
Speaker 3: going to Olivia.
20:09
Speaker 4: Did you foresee this because in my head I was.
20:12
Speaker 3: Thinking that Tanner was probably going to pick Davia and
20:15
Speaker 3: then the Braiden rose would go to Rachel.
20:18
Speaker 2: Yes, and no, I think actually we didn't get the
20:21
Speaker 2: full scene. When Tanner leans down to Braiden, he goes,
20:24
Speaker 2: who's rose? Like, who are you giving your roast? Now?
20:26
Speaker 2: I don't know. I bet after like, I bet like
20:29
Speaker 2: they kind of cut there out. Yeah, I bet Braiden
20:31
Speaker 2: was like, honestly, I'll probably give it to Olivia because
20:35
Speaker 2: like she deserves to be around or you know, and
20:37
Speaker 2: Tanner's like, well, I'm gonna give to Rachel and then
20:39
Speaker 2: they're all here and you can figure this out later.
20:41
Speaker 2: I think there was probably studia. Okay, so yeah, I
20:45
Speaker 2: just don't think we saw that. But it was a
20:47
Speaker 2: weird scene, and I felt like Beca was really excited
20:49
Speaker 2: to be there because she didn't get a long period
20:51
Speaker 2: of time on her season obviously of The Bachelor, and
20:56
Speaker 2: so it just, you know, impact last seasons, we have
21:01
Speaker 2: seen the struggle emotionally and mentally for people who are
21:05
Speaker 2: on paradise, Like, I don't know if I like being here.
21:07
Speaker 2: I feel very overwhelmed here. I kind of want to
21:10
Speaker 2: go home. I don't think this is the place for me.
21:12
Speaker 2: We don't see any of that with Becca. In fact,
21:14
Speaker 2: we don't really see Becca in this date with Braiden,
21:16
Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden, they're like, where's Becca.
21:18
Speaker 2: My first question was, who's Becca? I don't know who
21:20
Speaker 2: Becka is. I'm trying to figure out because we just
21:23
Speaker 2: haven't seen it. And then she's gone, yeah, which I
21:29
Speaker 2: don't want to add in that. Maybe possibly the show
21:33
Speaker 2: is like, we need to figure out a way to
21:35
Speaker 2: keep Olivia around for next week, and this is yeah.
21:38
Speaker 4: They definitely need to keep Olivia around.
21:39
Speaker 3: Somehow.
21:40
Speaker 2: Yeah, but Beca's gone Long Street.
21:43
Speaker 4: Guess what. Producers don't know where you are.
21:45
Speaker 3: Producers are there saying you gotta leave because we need
21:48
Speaker 3: Olivia stick around.
21:49
Speaker 2: Yeah. He and Braiden are going to work out. He's yeah. Anyways,
21:53
Speaker 2: So she's gone, which means braid now gives his rose
21:56
Speaker 2: to Olivia, which means Olivia is able to stay for
21:59
Speaker 2: one more week. And we're all very excited about that
22:01
Speaker 2: because honestly, I don't know what this show is this
22:03
Speaker 2: year because Ben.
22:05
Speaker 4: Freaking loves her. She's so freaking she is like, she delivers.
22:10
Speaker 5: She delivers the most she's ever delivered for me personally
22:14
Speaker 5: when Michael walks down the stairs, because she goes from
22:17
Speaker 5: being sad because she has this disappointing conversation the next
22:20
Speaker 5: day after the rose ceremony with John Henry where he
22:25
Speaker 5: was like, hey, I feel guilty and she's like, okay,
22:27
Speaker 5: thanks for talking to me.
22:28
Speaker 4: I hope it makes you feel less guilty.
22:30
Speaker 3: Go ahead, back over to Kat and then all of
22:32
Speaker 3: a sudden, this guy Michael comes down and she is
22:35
Speaker 3: like that Michael is a good looking man. Yes, girl,
22:43
Speaker 3: she won eighties. She's not going to get the row
22:45
Speaker 3: she's not going to get the date card. You know this.
22:47
Speaker 3: They leave us on this cliffhanger. Who's Michael going to
22:50
Speaker 3: give the date card to? And you just know it's
22:52
Speaker 3: not going to be Herdy.
22:54
Speaker 2: Who else would say? Yes? Rachel? Maybe I don't know.
22:57
Speaker 3: He did pull over Mercedes, which and he's not gonna
23:00
Speaker 3: Mercedes isn't going to go because Tyler says that they're
23:02
Speaker 3: like all in they can all see a future with
23:04
Speaker 3: each other. But I'm also like Tyler, when you get
23:06
Speaker 3: to tell Mercedes that you made out with Jess, he.
23:09
Speaker 2: Probably already has. We just haven't seen it again. I
23:11
Speaker 2: feel like there's a lot we're not seeing. I just
23:14
Speaker 2: don't know what the show would be this year without Olivia.
23:16
Speaker 2: I feel like she if you looked at Cat like
23:20
Speaker 2: Bachelor data and you saw screen time, it would be
23:22
Speaker 2: like Kat and Olivia seventy percent of the screen time
23:25
Speaker 2: and the rest of them like thirty percent, kind of
23:27
Speaker 2: like when they're on a date, but the rest of
23:29
Speaker 2: the time is just the two of them either doing
23:31
Speaker 2: the itms or trying to figure out who they're going
23:34
Speaker 2: to date. I think Olivia has made great television. I
23:38
Speaker 2: don't know Olivia personally, but she is.
23:40
Speaker 4: Would you wait until she comes on the pod?
23:43
Speaker 2: Oh, I cannot wait. It's going to be so fun.
23:46
Speaker 2: I just want her to talk. I just want to
23:48
Speaker 2: listen and laugh and just be like you say the
23:50
Speaker 2: most wildly ridiculous, funny things and all of it somehow
23:54
Speaker 2: makes sense and I don't know how you do it.
23:56
Speaker 3: Ben, we should have her be our official fill in
23:59
Speaker 3: or like, whenever one of us can't do the podcast,
24:01
Speaker 3: we should always have Olivia on speed dial.
24:04
Speaker 2: Yeah, because you know she is not afraid to say
24:06
Speaker 2: some stuff during headlines either. I'm going to breakdown bachelor headlines. Okay,
24:10
Speaker 2: so Michael does coming down to the beach. He is
24:13
Speaker 2: the newcomer. He's an attractive man with great dimples. There's
24:18
Speaker 2: not a lot of Yeah, there's not a lot of
24:19
Speaker 2: single people on the beach. It is kind of up
24:21
Speaker 2: to like Olivia and rachel On who maybe would be interested.
24:26
Speaker 2: I feel like at this point, going on to day,
24:27
Speaker 2: I think everybody else for the most part, has at
24:31
Speaker 2: this point in the season said no, let's either let's
24:33
Speaker 2: give this a go with the person I'm with or
24:36
Speaker 2: if this doesn't work, I'm probably done here. So yeah,
24:40
Speaker 2: they can tease us, I do think Olivia goes on
24:42
Speaker 2: this date, because I just don't. He never pulled Rachel.
24:45
Speaker 2: We never saw it. And so if he asks Rachel
24:47
Speaker 2: old Mercedes, Yeah, but I mean I think I don't
24:51
Speaker 2: think Mercedes goes. I don't think Kylie will go with him.
24:54
Speaker 2: Who we saw him pull as well.
24:55
Speaker 4: Oh it was Kylie who was pulled.
24:58
Speaker 2: Both they both pulled. Oh yeah, well, and so I
25:01
Speaker 2: just don't think either of them are going on a date.
25:04
Speaker 2: And so, you know, the only other person we saw
25:06
Speaker 2: him talk to is Olivia. So if he pulls anybody
25:07
Speaker 2: other than Lyvia, it's gonna be very confusing for the
25:09
Speaker 2: audience because they're like, so you talked to three girls
25:12
Speaker 2: and you didn't like any of them, and so you're
25:14
Speaker 2: just going with the next best option.
25:15
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you wanted to take one that wasn't available.
25:19
Speaker 3: All right, Hopefully Olivia gets the date. The other big
25:22
Speaker 3: tease that we have for next week is the fact
25:25
Speaker 3: that Katie comes down and we did touch on it recently,
25:28
Speaker 3: but she says something to Blake that is heavy, or
25:31
Speaker 3: so it seems when clipped up the way we see it.
25:34
Speaker 4: She goes, if I could go back and redo it
25:37
Speaker 4: all I would.
25:41
Speaker 3: I think my theory is that she feels really guilty
25:44
Speaker 3: about how things ended, and I don't think it was
25:47
Speaker 3: the happiest of splits. I think that there's rumors that
25:52
Speaker 3: like she kind of blindsided him, that their breakup was
25:56
Speaker 3: when they're away from each other.
25:58
Speaker 4: Maybe he was in Africa.
26:00
Speaker 3: Maybe I'm making things up, but I think that what
26:02
Speaker 3: she's gonna go and redo is just like the ending
26:05
Speaker 3: of their relationship, and she feels bad and that's for
26:07
Speaker 3: the first time they're talking in two years.
26:09
Speaker 2: I'd love to see it. I just I'm I'm kind
26:11
Speaker 2: of in this season of life where I just love breakups,
26:14
Speaker 2: rekindling and getting on in a good place. I'm a
26:16
Speaker 2: big fan of watching him happen right in front of
26:18
Speaker 2: my eyes. It's great, it's really fun. Hey, we still
26:22
Speaker 2: haven't seen Ashley. It's kind of been like disappeared. We
26:25
Speaker 2: still have a wedding supposedly in Paradise. Do we have
26:28
Speaker 2: any better idea of who this is gonna be? I know, no,
26:32
Speaker 2: it was teased like, wh who are these people?
26:35
Speaker 1: Are?
26:35
Speaker 2: Just like a random wedding now or.
26:37
Speaker 4: The longest season?
26:39
Speaker 3: So like we might have we have weeks left I
26:43
Speaker 3: feel I feel like we have at least three weeks
26:45
Speaker 3: left of show, so who knows how these things might evolve,
26:51
Speaker 3: and who knows, maybe just a random ass wedding on
26:54
Speaker 3: the beach. It's a date dumble across it. I know
26:57
Speaker 3: it's gonna be like that prom date. You know, It's
26:59
Speaker 3: like there had Van Donta and it's like, oh my god,
27:01
Speaker 3: a wedding.
27:03
Speaker 4: I imagine getting married to you right next to me.
27:06
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's that. I mean, there are rumors
27:09
Speaker 2: that it was Gary, but I'm like, Gary season hadn't
27:11
Speaker 2: even filmed yet, so it's not Gary. Yeah, like it
27:15
Speaker 2: was after like this faradest filmed a long time ago,
27:17
Speaker 2: so who knows. Anyways, We'll be back next week with
27:20
Speaker 2: another breakdown of Bachelor in Paradise. Hey, this week we
27:22
Speaker 2: have some really cool stuff. We had Rodney Matthews join
27:25
Speaker 2: us for headlines and we also did an in depth
27:27
Speaker 2: with Rodney. We're gonna still do the Golden Bachelor breakdown,
27:31
Speaker 2: so it's a big week of podcasts but also a
27:33
Speaker 2: really great week of podcasts. Rodney opens up about his
27:37
Speaker 2: new relationship and so the big question there that I
27:40
Speaker 2: think everyone's answer is, is it the real dealer or
27:42
Speaker 2: not so Tune into our episode to get all the
27:44
Speaker 2: details on his new relationship and where they're at currently
27:48
Speaker 2: and what he sees as a future for the two
27:50
Speaker 2: of them. But until next time, I've been Ben, I've
27:55
Speaker 2: been Ashley.
27:55
Speaker 4: Bye, guys, we love you. You're the best.
27:58
Speaker 3: Thank you so much for listening to our voices all
28:01
Speaker 3: the time. When you come up to us and you're like,
28:03
Speaker 3: hell the podcast, I'm like.
28:05
Speaker 4: You listen to my voice.
28:06
Speaker 3: That's the kindest of things. And I'm gonna start screeching now.
28:10
Speaker 2: Bye.
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