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Mac & Bone Hour 2: What's Behind Bryce's Improvement? · Mac & Bone Podcast

0:20
Speaker 1: The speed, the twitch, the quickness, right? The stop start,
0:23
Speaker 1: the herky-jerkiness.
0:24
Speaker 2: He can just freeze a defensive end, stop an unblocked
0:26
Speaker 2: linebacker while he's on a scramble drill, and it just
0:28
Speaker 2: breaks defensive structure, right? He just pulls too many guys
0:30
Speaker 2: out of too many places by just flitting in and
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Speaker 2: out of spots.
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Speaker 1: And then he can make these throws.
0:35
Speaker 2: Disconnected from the ground, hips facing the wrong way, arm
0:38
Speaker 2: angles at different spots because he's such a loosey, such
0:40
Speaker 2: a lithe body. Now you're seeing that really start to
0:42
Speaker 2: impact between the 20s. They're, you know, in the RPO game, right?
0:45
Speaker 2: They're running, like, Mike McDaniel RPO stuff with him and
0:47
Speaker 2: basically saying, like, we just think that you can get
0:49
Speaker 2: the ball Out of the mesh point and into the
0:52
Speaker 2: throw so fast that we can take advantage of very
0:55
Speaker 2: small windows. And it's working wonderfully for them. What they've
0:58
Speaker 2: gotten him to figure out, to learn, to improve upon
1:01
Speaker 2: from a Drew Brees, find the windows between the off
1:04
Speaker 2: the line perspective. It is one of the bigger turnarounds
1:07
Speaker 2: of a quarterbacking talent.
1:09
Speaker 1: It's a complete 180. That is Ben Solak, the national
1:13
Speaker 1: media bone, like us trying to figure out where our
1:16
Speaker 1: remote went. The national media has spent the last few days.
1:20
Speaker 1: How has Bryce Young gotten better? What is he doing better?
1:23
Speaker 1: And we must have our local version of that conversation
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Speaker 1: right now. That's Ben Solak talking about some of the
1:30
Speaker 1: things he is noticing from Bryce Young that have made
1:33
Speaker 1: him better. We have also had a major development in
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Speaker 1: remote gates. the bone man, the light bulb went on
1:41
Speaker 1: for somebody, somebody's brain in this studio. And the bone
1:44
Speaker 1: man said, how about our guy, Donald, who is in
1:47
Speaker 1: charge of all things in the building. And I'll be
1:51
Speaker 1: damned if Donald just didn't bring in a spare version
1:55
Speaker 1: of the exact same remote. The remote is back in
1:59
Speaker 1: the studio, baby smoke. You were off the hook. I
2:02
Speaker 1: can stop acting like a jackass. I mean, it's beautiful bone.
2:05
Speaker 1: And he brought up a point Mac that needs to
2:07
Speaker 1: be made. He said, uh, You know, there's a TV
2:10
Speaker 1: station in the building. There's plenty of remote controls. And
2:12
Speaker 1: I said, you know.
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Speaker 3: What, Donald?
2:14
Speaker 1: Great point. Didn't think about that. He found one in
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Speaker 1: about 30 seconds. Didn't think about that. That's beautiful. So
2:19
Speaker 1: we're back, baby. That whole one hour. Now, you know
2:21
Speaker 1: what I mean?
2:22
Speaker 3: You declared something during the break that that is now
2:25
Speaker 3: your remote that you're going to take home and bring
2:27
Speaker 3: it back.
2:27
Speaker 1: I thought about it, but that would really be selfish.
2:29
Speaker 1: But that would be funny, wouldn't it? If we literally
2:31
Speaker 1: packed it up in one of our backpacks and it
2:33
Speaker 1: was only used from 6 to 10. Oh, man.
2:36
Speaker 3: They have to choose what channel they want by 10 a.m.,
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Speaker 3: so I'm back and put.
2:38
Speaker 1: It on for them. I would just like to urge KB,
2:41
Speaker 1: watch Smoke. When Smoke gets to play with the remote,
2:44
Speaker 1: it's like one of your kids, KB, when they get
2:46
Speaker 1: to play with something, there's some things you've got to
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Speaker 1: watch them with. Watch Smoke as he plays with that
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Speaker 1: remote control, KB. Okay? And take it away from him
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Speaker 1: if it needs to be taken away.
2:55
Speaker 3: I'm also suspicious of Fitty also because he was here
2:58
Speaker 3: overnight that night, and he's been very quiet on the
3:01
Speaker 3: search front and the help front.
3:04
Speaker 1: That's true. He knows something. Do you think his sweetie
3:07
Speaker 1: at home needed a new remote and Fitty was the
3:10
Speaker 1: knight in shining armor and just stole it from the
3:12
Speaker 1: station for her? Yes. All right, back to Bryce anyway.
3:16
Speaker 1: People are blaming Tampa Tammy. I mean, it was a
3:18
Speaker 1: whole thing going on. Beth Troutman was apparently upset that
3:21
Speaker 1: I blamed her. I'm going to have to smooth that over.
3:23
Speaker 1: It was a whole thing. But we got a remote back.
3:26
Speaker 1: And we got Bryce Young playing some amazing freaking football.
3:29
Speaker 1: Let's get one more clip bone before from the same podcast,
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Speaker 1: Amita Kimes podcast. That's where Solak was talking. And this
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Speaker 1: is Mina talking about what she really loved watching Bryce
3:39
Speaker 1: the other night.
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Speaker 4: I want to talk about Young and what we've seen
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Speaker 4: from him this season because you talk about calmness. I
3:45
Speaker 4: think that's where I'd want to start. Bryce has been
3:47
Speaker 4: under a lot of pressure in the early part of
3:49
Speaker 4: the season. But watching him when he's under pressure, there's
3:53
Speaker 4: like zero panic. I think that's what strikes me. I
3:57
Speaker 4: have a lot of numbers and there's stuff I want
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Speaker 4: to talk about, but I think that's what strikes me
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Speaker 4: the most, Ben, is the lack of panic under pressure,
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Speaker 4: the willingness and ability to execute the offense, which is
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Speaker 4: also very good. There's some fun things happening there that
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Speaker 4: I want to talk about. And then the touch and
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Speaker 4: the accuracy, particularly over the middle of the field. And
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Speaker 4: I looked this up afterwards between the numbers. According to
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Speaker 4: True Media, Bryce has a 72% precision pass rate, which
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Speaker 4: is the best in the NFL. And that's what it
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Speaker 4: looks like. Like, doesn't it just feel like every ball
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Speaker 4: between the numbers is right on the money, just so catchable?
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Speaker 1: Was that you or Ben Solak doing that? That was me. Oh,
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Speaker 1: I thought Ben Solak has a similar. That was Bone Solak.
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Speaker 1: What do you think, Bone? She brings up great points.
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Speaker 1: The over-the-middle passing that people told us he was too
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Speaker 1: small to do. The under-pressure poise that has gone up
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Speaker 1: another level. Solak brought up the quick release. It really
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Speaker 1: is impressive on those RPOs, Bone. the way he gets
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Speaker 1: it out so fast. What are you seeing that you're like,
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Speaker 1: Bryce is better at that right there?
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Speaker 3: I have a theory on what's working, and it's a
5:02
Speaker 3: weird theory to have, but hear me out. I think
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Speaker 3: because he's under so much pressure, because the offensive line, Mac,
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Speaker 3: has had some issues, Bryce has actually benefited from that
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Speaker 3: in terms of decision-making and having to get the ball
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Speaker 3: out so fast. He doesn't have a lot of time, Mac,
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Speaker 3: to overthink stuff at all. He's just reacting. So it's
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Speaker 3: a weird thing to say that the pressure is actually
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Speaker 3: making Bryce better because he's not really having to go
5:28
Speaker 3: through so many progressions. He's just firing that ball out.
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Speaker 3: So I think the actual offensive-wide struggles, Bryce has benefited
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Speaker 3: from that so far.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: In a weird kind of way. I'm not saying it's ideal,
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Speaker 3: but I think that he's just– he has to be
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Speaker 3: so fast right now that it's helping him out a
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Speaker 3: little bit. When he– you know, Canales has talked about it.
5:46
Speaker 3: In chaos, he seems to thrive. We saw it going
5:48
Speaker 3: back to Alabama. I did see– and J.T. O'Sullivan talked
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Speaker 3: about it this week on the QB School Bryce episode.
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Speaker 3: There were times where you saw him go, like, through
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Speaker 3: three reads, too. Like– and by the way– like holding
6:01
Speaker 3: it to the last minute, boom.
6:03
Speaker 1: Boom, boom. I'm about to get drilled, but my third
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Speaker 1: re like, so he is, he's going through, he's doing
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Speaker 1: a bit of everything. I think the one thing I
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Speaker 1: want that, that I want to point out statistically bone
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Speaker 1: is just how much more he is getting the ball
6:18
Speaker 1: 10 yards or more downfield. He had been, you know,
6:21
Speaker 1: he had, again, thrown it well on deep balls last year,
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Speaker 1: but just not that often. His intermediate passing last year
6:28
Speaker 1: was maybe his biggest weakness. It was horrible last year, statistically.
6:32
Speaker 1: This year, Bone, he has 35 completions of 10 or
6:35
Speaker 1: more air yards. That is an average of about nine
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Speaker 1: a game. He averaged four a game last year. That's it.
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Speaker 1: He has more than doubled it. And then you look
6:43
Speaker 1: at his intermediate passing. Intermediate is considered 10 yards to
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Speaker 1: 19 yards downfield. 65%, 9.5 yards an attempt, 3 TDs,
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Speaker 1: 0 interceptions, 122 rating. Last year, Bone, in intermediate passing, 45%,
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Speaker 1: 7.4 yards an attempt, 6 TDs and 8 interceptions, a
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Speaker 1: 58 rating. That is crazy. His rating has gone up
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Speaker 1: 64 points on intermediate passing from last year. That's more
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Speaker 1: than doubled.
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Speaker 2: I mean, the.
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Speaker 3: Performance against the Lions in that range is out of
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Speaker 3: this world. I mean, to be 14 for 15 on
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Speaker 3: intermediate routes in one game, he's up there, Mac. I mean,
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Speaker 3: it's no wonder he's getting, you know, at least talked
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Speaker 3: about up there with the best in the game because
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Speaker 3: his numbers are up there with Josh Allen, Joe Burrow,
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Speaker 3: Brock Purdy. Like, he has now– he's gone such a
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Speaker 3: level above where when we think of Bryce where he is–
7:42
Speaker 3: in the pecking order of quarterbacks, Matt, we were just
7:44
Speaker 3: hoping that he would be 12 to 15 and hang
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Speaker 3: out there and let everything around him develop and win
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Speaker 3: some football games. Hell, I said if he becomes Alex Smith,
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Speaker 3: Kansas City like Alex Smith, where he just wins a
7:56
Speaker 3: lot of games, he's good, but he wins a lot
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Speaker 3: of games, I.
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Speaker 1: Would take that.
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Speaker 3: But his numbers right now and a lot of these metrics,
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Speaker 3: they're up there with those guys that are the best
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Speaker 3: in the game through a month in the season. But
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Speaker 3: the fact that he's even up there at all is
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Speaker 3: a great benefit to– perseverance for Bryce as a quarterback.
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Speaker 3: So there's a lot of credit that goes to Bryce individually,
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Speaker 3: but they did a hell of a job, Mac, to
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Speaker 3: rebuild him. mentally since two years ago, whether it's Canales, Inzik,
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Speaker 3: Bevel's presence, whatever it may be, they have done a
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Speaker 3: tremendous job in restoring his confidence for him to believe
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Speaker 3: that he's one of those best in the game right now.
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Speaker 3: You can see the confidence wasn't there for a long time.
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Speaker 3: He's under control. Like we talked about earlier in the week,
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Speaker 3: he's dictating the game now. He's not reacting to the game.
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Speaker 3: Even when he's under pressure, he's dictating. Oh, you're over there?
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Speaker 1: I'm going to make a little move here, a little
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Speaker 1: move over there, and boom, I'm going to hit TMAC
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Speaker 1: for 14. Like it's just even the most pressured quarterback
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Speaker 1: and Sumer sports has it at 40, 53%, 53% over
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Speaker 1: half his dropbacks have been pressured and he leads in yards.
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Speaker 1: He is third in touchdowns and he's up here in
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Speaker 1: so many categories. What do you guys like? What specifically
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Speaker 1: has Bryce gotten better at? Why is Bryce playing at
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Speaker 1: this level? What are your theories and thoughts on that
9:15
Speaker 1: as we celebrate Bryce Young playing the best of his career? 704-5709-610.
9:22
Speaker 1: This texter says, Bryce was always capable of doing this.
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Speaker 1: I think it's about supporting cast and play caller. That
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Speaker 1: stuff has improved. Yeah, and I don't want to give
9:32
Speaker 1: all the credit to Idzik because I'm sure Canales Bone
9:34
Speaker 1: was a part of coming up with the general game
9:38
Speaker 1: plan for the season for Bryce. Canales made a comment
9:41
Speaker 1: in training camp. said, through our time with Bryce, we
9:46
Speaker 1: have now been able to craft an offense that is
9:49
Speaker 1: Bryce's offense. What does he do well, and how do
9:52
Speaker 1: we get the most out of him? So I think
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Speaker 1: Bryce is more comfortable in the NFL. The game has
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Speaker 1: slowed down, Boney, even when he's under pressure. But I
10:00
Speaker 1: also think the staff over there in Idzik has been
10:02
Speaker 1: freaking amazing. But I think they now know. how to
10:06
Speaker 1: call things, how to run an offense with Bryce. And
10:09
Speaker 1: you brought it up yesterday. Guys are making plays for
10:12
Speaker 1: him that they were just not making. Like, go back
10:14
Speaker 1: to his rookie year. DJ Chark dropping two deep balls
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Speaker 1: in Jacksonville. Like, Xavier Lee get two years ago, dropping,
10:21
Speaker 1: you know, the game-winning touchdown potentially against the Eagles.
10:23
Speaker 3: Remember, there was one in the end zone that hit
10:25
Speaker 3: Ian Thomas in the face.
10:26
Speaker 1: Yeah, serious. Yeah. Like, and you said it yesterday, and
10:29
Speaker 1: you're so right. Like, Mechie just made a play. Tremaine just–
10:32
Speaker 1: guys are just– the tight ends are now making– Everybody
10:35
Speaker 1: just seems to be making plays for Bryce. But I
10:39
Speaker 1: think that happens, Bo, when you believe in your quarter.
10:41
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Like, I think there's a
10:43
Speaker 1: symbiotic relationship. Like, oh, I believe in this guy. Oh, look,
10:48
Speaker 1: he just got that ball. I got to get this.
10:50
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? I think there's an element
10:51
Speaker 1: of that, maybe. Also, Dave Canales needs a ton of credit, Matt.
10:54
Speaker 1: It's not.
10:55
Speaker 3: A coincidence that a quarterback has gotten better under Dave Canales.
10:59
Speaker 3: Why did he get hired here? The revival of Geno
11:03
Speaker 3: Smith in Seattle while Dave Canales was there. Baker Mayfield
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Speaker 3: becoming the star he was supposed to be in Tampa
11:10
Speaker 3: while Dave Canales was there. Bryce Young emerging into what
11:14
Speaker 3: he's supposed to be. It's not a coincidence. All these
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Speaker 3: things just don't happen in Dave Canales' presence. He's not
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Speaker 3: Forrest Gump. He just doesn't happen to be on the
11:22
Speaker 3: scene and things happen. Dave Canales is doing stuff behind
11:26
Speaker 3: the scenes with Bryce. He did it with Geno. He
11:29
Speaker 3: did it with Baker. He's got a feel, whether it's
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Speaker 3: the mental side, the physical side, whatever it is, Dave
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Speaker 3: Canales just connects with quarterbacks, and it's working again here.
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Speaker 3: This is why he got hired was for Bryce Young,
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Speaker 3: and it's working.
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Speaker 1: Dude, the method he used, the benching, I mean, there
11:45
Speaker 1: was a method to his madness all along. Sit him down,
11:47
Speaker 1: let him take a break, keep coaching him up behind
11:49
Speaker 1: the scenes. Don't say a word about the kid in public.
11:51
Speaker 1: Remember that whole thing? Remember that whole thing where you
11:53
Speaker 1: and I were like, oh, is Canales done with him?
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Speaker 1: He won't even talk about Bryce. But he just didn't want,
11:58
Speaker 1: he told us, you know, that you're following training camp.
12:01
Speaker 1: I didn't want any extra pressure. There was already going
12:03
Speaker 1: to be pressure on when he came back. He said,
12:04
Speaker 1: the last thing I want to do is just engage
12:06
Speaker 1: in conversation about him. So he basically acted like he didn't.
12:09
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
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Speaker 5: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: It was very weird. Impressors.
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Speaker 3: But there was a method to his madness. Panther Cliff
12:15
Speaker 3: had a question. He says he hasn't slowed down the
12:17
Speaker 3: tape yet. But is Bryce not patting the ball as
12:21
Speaker 3: much anymore? And that's cutting down some time on the release. Yeah,
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Speaker 3: I wonder about that.
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Speaker 1: We'd have to go.
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Speaker 3: We'd have to ask a guy like Jake DeLome, something
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Speaker 3: of that nature, maybe later on the show.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, we can definitely ask him. But I'm looking forward
12:33
Speaker 1: to asking all these questions to Jake. Like, what do
12:34
Speaker 1: you notice as a quarterback? And he's on at 925.
12:37
Speaker 1: That is different. 704-570-9610. People are bringing up the Daryl
12:42
Speaker 1: Bevel effect. That definitely is something that, again, I don't
12:46
Speaker 1: know exactly what he's doing. You know what I mean?
12:50
Speaker 1: But just bringing in someone who has been there, and
12:52
Speaker 1: you bring up the point that he was... If we're
12:56
Speaker 1: going to say Canales has worked magic with smaller quarterbacks,
12:59
Speaker 1: including Russell Wilson, Darryl Bevel was there with Russ. Four
13:03
Speaker 1: people have said the same text here. Now, this could.
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Speaker 3: This could get you a little fired up here, but
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Speaker 3: four people have said it's a contract year. That's why
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Speaker 3: Bryce is playing better. One guy's worried about it. He
13:15
Speaker 3: did say Bryce fan. So y'all think he's working harder?
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Speaker 3: He did say Bryce fan, but is it because it's
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Speaker 3: a contract year? I would say that's not Bryce's. That's
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Speaker 3: not the way Bryce operates.
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Speaker 1: But at the quarterback position, I'm trying to figure out
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Speaker 1: what would he be doing differently in a contract year?
13:28
Speaker 1: Studying more? Because to your point, you don't think Bryce Young,
13:33
Speaker 1: while people were calling him a bust, was just working
13:35
Speaker 1: his ass off behind the scenes? A thousand percent. He's
13:39
Speaker 1: not a slacker. That kid's not a slacker. You know?
13:44
Speaker 1: I also don't think he's... I don't understand what he
13:47
Speaker 1: would be doing more of just because it's a contract year.
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Speaker 1: I think he's just more comfort, more confidence. I also
13:53
Speaker 1: don't see Bryce as a.
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Speaker 3: Better situation? I think Bryce is a football success guy.
13:57
Speaker 3: Not that money doesn't matter to Bryce.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: But I don't know if he's motivated by that. I
14:02
Speaker 3: don't think that's what his motivation would be. I think
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Speaker 3: he knows, regardless of what happens, I will have money
14:06
Speaker 3: for the rest of my life.
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Speaker 1: Yes. So, yeah, I don't view that either. We have
14:11
Speaker 1: found bone. We have found our first negative individual bone, man. Bebop! No!
14:19
Speaker 1: But I don't know if he's texting, and if he is,
14:21
Speaker 1: I'm not reading him. We'll save his text until we
14:24
Speaker 1: get to the Drake May portion of the show, where
14:26
Speaker 1: Drake May is questioning the moon landing. That's where Bebop
14:28
Speaker 1: comes in handy.
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Speaker 5: Correct.
14:32
Speaker 1: That's a great place for Bob to be today. 10 o'clock, Bobby.
14:35
Speaker 1: 10 o'clock, yeah, you fire in. Welcome, welcome, Fitty, back
14:37
Speaker 1: to the big chair at 10 o'clock, Bob. But here
14:40
Speaker 1: is a text from VPISU91. He says, Mac— Sounds like
14:44
Speaker 1: a license plate. He says, Mac, I'm not a Bryce eater.
14:47
Speaker 1: I think he means hater. He says, I am Team Bryce,
14:52
Speaker 1: but we're 2-2 because I don't really care what individual
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Speaker 1: player is doing right now. We need to get over. 500.
15:01
Speaker 1: I would argue that Bryce Young being our franchise quarterback,
15:05
Speaker 1: the record is the most important thing. I would argue
15:08
Speaker 1: the next most important thing is Bryce Young balling the
15:11
Speaker 1: hell out.
15:12
Speaker 5: Yeah.
15:13
Speaker 1: Because if you don't have a franchise quarterback, you screwed.
15:19
Speaker 1: So I would argue this is pretty damn– I don't
15:21
Speaker 1: disagree with you that, yeah, I would love to get
15:25
Speaker 1: healthy and get over 500. But if you want to
15:29
Speaker 1: act like this is not worth getting excited about as
15:31
Speaker 1: a Panther fan, you're doing it differently to me. And
15:35
Speaker 1: that's fine. Clearly everybody fans differently. Why would you not–
15:40
Speaker 1: I don't understand. Why would you not be excited for
15:43
Speaker 1: a team you root for to have a rising star
15:45
Speaker 1: at quarterback? Yeah, I don't get it either. Well, I couldn't.
15:49
Speaker 3: I love the team, but I'm not sure about having
15:51
Speaker 3: a star quarterback around here.
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Speaker 1: I guess he's saying it doesn't mean anything to him
15:54
Speaker 1: because we're only 2-2. I got news for you. We
15:58
Speaker 1: wouldn't be 2-2 if Bryce wasn't playing this way. Yeah. Like,
16:02
Speaker 1: let's just call it what it is. We would be 1-3.
16:06
Speaker 1: We would not have won on Sunday Night, Bone. If
16:09
Speaker 1: Bryce did not play this way, we would have gotten
16:12
Speaker 1: blown out. If Bryce just played against Cleveland through all
16:17
Speaker 1: that pressure and didn't rise up and give us a
16:20
Speaker 1: chance to win the game, we would have got blown
16:23
Speaker 1: out by the Browns.
16:25
Speaker 3: No, I was going to say the same thing. He
16:27
Speaker 3: kept them in that it was his worst game of
16:29
Speaker 3: the year, but his worst game is now pretty good.
16:32
Speaker 3: That's the thing about it. Bryce's worst games back before
16:34
Speaker 3: were absolutely horrible. There's no doubt about it, but even
16:38
Speaker 3: Bryce's bad game was pretty good. That's a step up.
16:41
Speaker 1: You're right. It didn't devolve into, you know what I mean?
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Speaker 1: One of those really bad Bryce games. He was able
16:47
Speaker 1: to still hang in there and make plays despite the
16:50
Speaker 1: pressure to bite some of his mistakes that he made,
16:53
Speaker 1: despite how the Browns were taking TMAC away as well.
16:57
Speaker 1: King McQueen says, you're giving Canales way too much credit.
17:01
Speaker 1: Bryce was going to be great here or somewhere else.
17:03
Speaker 1: He just needed someone to believe in him and allow
17:06
Speaker 1: him to cook. Why do so many in our fan
17:10
Speaker 1: base not want to give Canales credit for anything? He's
17:14
Speaker 1: almost just hanging out over there and along for the
17:17
Speaker 1: ride as the team improves. It's interesting to me.
17:21
Speaker 3: There are some folks, Mac, that would complain about Dave
17:25
Speaker 3: doing the play calling and the game management, and now
17:27
Speaker 3: Dave's not doing enough over there. Before, it was too much.
17:32
Speaker 3: Now Dave's not doing enough. It's almost like, Mac, some
17:34
Speaker 3: people are always mad at the coach. They're always upset
17:36
Speaker 3: with the coach, no matter what's going on. Good morning
17:38
Speaker 3: to Willie P also out there.
17:40
Speaker 1: But it's interesting, like Sean McVay, like, and I know
17:43
Speaker 1: he's the play caller and that's probably a bad example.
17:46
Speaker 1: I just, you understand what I'm saying though, Bone? It's
17:48
Speaker 1: not a coincidence that the culture has completely changed since
17:51
Speaker 1: Dave came in here. He's not over there. Like people
17:54
Speaker 1: lack bone. Like he's hanging out with the family while
17:56
Speaker 1: Brad does all the work. Brad and Daryl Bevel do
17:59
Speaker 1: all the work. Angelo Vero does the lake. I just
18:02
Speaker 1: get the feeling bone. He is a culture builder and
18:05
Speaker 1: he's a great overseen coach. Play calling probably wasn't his
18:09
Speaker 1: strong point. I didn't even think it was a strong
18:11
Speaker 1: point as an OC, um, with Tampa, but I just
18:14
Speaker 1: don't understand the desire to snatch credit away from Dave canals.
18:19
Speaker 1: It goes to the, to the text that, that we
18:21
Speaker 1: got in KB got this week. Hey man, if it's
18:24
Speaker 1: going to get a head coaching job, how about we'd
18:26
Speaker 1: keep him, make him head coach and get rid of Canalis.
18:29
Speaker 1: Like it just feels like people think Dave is doing.
18:32
Speaker 1: It's just, is Dave just, do people just think he's
18:35
Speaker 1: the handsome, he's the handsome spokesmodel for the team. Just
18:38
Speaker 1: stand by Dave hanging out.
18:40
Speaker 3: Someone says people want to get mad at everything, whether
18:43
Speaker 3: it's quarterbacks or lost remotes in their place of business.
18:46
Speaker 1: Yeah. Did you see what Michael Bell sent in, Bone?
18:51
Speaker 1: What's that? Our guy. He sent in the clip from
18:53
Speaker 1: Zoolander where the dudes start freaking out because they can't
18:56
Speaker 1: get the screen to come on. And he says, this
19:00
Speaker 1: is Mac with crying emojis. Yeah, I don't handle... things
19:05
Speaker 1: not working for me well. No, you don't. It's a
19:07
Speaker 1: serious flaw. And smoke caught the heat because of it.
19:12
Speaker 1: You guys haven't seen, Mac can't get his password to work, Mac.
19:15
Speaker 1: That is one guy.
19:15
Speaker 3: That is one guy. I hate it when you can't
19:22
Speaker 3: get into something in the password realm. I've seen it
19:26
Speaker 3: for 20 years. And then sometimes they'll go, oh, I
19:30
Speaker 3: spelled it wrong.
19:30
Speaker 1: They don't get it.
19:31
Speaker 6: Oh.
19:35
Speaker 1: Oh, God, I'm regressing. I wasn't very good to start with.
19:39
Speaker 1: So this is bad news. It really is.
19:42
Speaker 3: How long, Mac, until you go full Salania and you
19:44
Speaker 3: just give your passwords to other people around you and
19:47
Speaker 3: they log in for you?
19:48
Speaker 1: That was my job for a decade, by the way. way.
19:50
Speaker 1: I was Jim's password man. I got it earlier. Every
19:54
Speaker 1: day somebody says Mac is the new Salania, and I'm
19:56
Speaker 1: just like, I love Jimmy, but I don't know if
19:59
Speaker 1: that's good for me.
20:00
Speaker 3: Do you know, Mac, Jim has not worked with us,
20:03
Speaker 3: our former co-host, since 2016. Do you know that he
20:06
Speaker 3: called me, and I mean within the last two years?
20:09
Speaker 3: and asked me what his Twitter password was, the one
20:12
Speaker 3: we set up in 2013, I said, I got.
20:15
Speaker 1: To be honest, man. I don't remember 10 years ago
20:18
Speaker 1: what your password is. Oh, my God. That's hilarious. I
20:21
Speaker 1: didn't do my job.
20:22
Speaker 3: I didn't maintain the Selenium passwords for the rest of life.
20:25
Speaker 3: When we come back in the Mac and Bone show,
20:27
Speaker 3: who is more likely to pull the upset on Saturday?
20:30
Speaker 3: UNC at Pitt, State at Wake.
20:33
Speaker 1: No, Wake. State hosting Wake, right? Yeah.
20:35
Speaker 5: Yeah.
20:36
Speaker 1: Stay toasty, Wade. Screwed that up there. It's my back.
20:39
Speaker 3: I'm going to Salania. Sports Radio, 92.7 WFNZ.
20:58
Speaker 5: I'm really excited just to see this Wake Forest team.
21:01
Speaker 1: And also, can NC State make some noise? Again, that's
21:04
Speaker 1: my wolf pack. Love them.
21:05
Speaker 5: Love them.
21:06
Speaker 1: Always cheer for them. Always think they got something.
21:09
Speaker 5: But I think Wake has an opportunity here to flex
21:11
Speaker 5: their muscles and show they're one of the best teams
21:15
Speaker 5: in this league and one of the best teams in
21:16
Speaker 5: the country. I'm just going to go ahead and give
21:18
Speaker 5: them that as well. So I think Wake's favored by three.
21:22
Speaker 4: I don't know.
21:23
Speaker 5: That's just the thing for these first couple of games. Again,
21:26
Speaker 5: I don't see it being that close. I think Wake Forest, again,
21:29
Speaker 5: wins by double digits.
21:32
Speaker 1: There you go, Eric. Matt Klain on the Matt Klain
21:35
Speaker 1: and Gramlich podcast. It might be Gramlich and Matt Klain.
21:38
Speaker 1: Did I put? Yeah. Kelly Gramlich goes first over EMAC.
21:41
Speaker 1: But you heard it there. EMAC admitted. I have to
21:45
Speaker 1: say a clean up file too. EMAC admitted. Not having
21:47
Speaker 1: your name first on the show. He admitted. McClain needs
21:52
Speaker 1: his name first, but Matt Klain apparently doesn't need his
21:54
Speaker 1: name first. So EMAC admitted there was a lot going
21:57
Speaker 1: on in that clip. He admitted he still thinks NC
22:00
Speaker 1: State's a good team. He always buys into NC State,
22:05
Speaker 1: but he wrapped it up by saying, this Wake team
22:08
Speaker 1: is legit, one of the best teams in the country,
22:11
Speaker 1: he says, and they will win by double digits at
22:14
Speaker 1: Raleigh this weekend. That will be a hell of a win.
22:17
Speaker 1: of a statement, no pun intended. I know that's NC
22:20
Speaker 1: State's thing. But anyway, this is one of two games
22:24
Speaker 1: we got to talk about that I find interesting in
22:26
Speaker 1: the same way. I feel like each week, Bone, this
22:29
Speaker 1: is football in the Carolinas. Each week we're asking, can
22:33
Speaker 1: this local team pull an upset? Can that local team
22:36
Speaker 1: pull an upset? It's our weekly who can compete. Yes.
22:39
Speaker 1: Is someone get a moral victory this week? What are
22:42
Speaker 1: our underdogs from the Carolinas going to do? So I
22:45
Speaker 1: think the point spreads and you could tell me what
22:47
Speaker 1: you're seeing bone. I think it's like a three and
22:51
Speaker 1: a half point spread for wake in Raleigh. And I
22:54
Speaker 1: think it's pit by like four or it might be
22:56
Speaker 1: three and a half, four. Okay. So pit by four.
22:59
Speaker 3: But the interesting angle to that is 79% of the
23:03
Speaker 3: money coming in on the money line on Pittsburgh, but
23:07
Speaker 3: even more interesting in the wake state game, 86% of
23:11
Speaker 3: the money coming in on wake forest. 86 percent like
23:15
Speaker 3: just money line money line would you say spread was
23:18
Speaker 3: i may have been uh checking the text i didn't
23:19
Speaker 3: say what that would be the money situation.
23:22
Speaker 1: Yeah like in terms of like spread for wake state
23:25
Speaker 1: the spread is 54 percent to wait for us okay
23:27
Speaker 1: so that's more balanced with the four points or three
23:30
Speaker 1: and a half points it's more.
23:31
Speaker 3: Balanced spread money for pittsburgh and unc which surprises me
23:36
Speaker 3: here a little bit is 65 percent coming in on pittsburgh.
23:40
Speaker 1: OK, I honestly, Bone, think both these games are going
23:43
Speaker 1: to be really good. They're both at the same time, too.
23:47
Speaker 1: The Wake State one is really juicy because of the
23:49
Speaker 1: local aspect. They're both triangle teams. They're both in-state teams.
23:54
Speaker 1: We've got fans of both teams out there. Feels like
23:56
Speaker 1: a lot of feels like up and down high scoring.
23:58
Speaker 1: I think it can be shootout.
24:00
Speaker 3: UNC Pittsburgh feels like it's going to be that what
24:03
Speaker 3: UNC is.
24:04
Speaker 1: Going to want there. And Narduzzi might want also. UNC, listen,
24:07
Speaker 1: if Mason Heichel was in the game, full disclosure, I'm
24:10
Speaker 1: not sure I'd be talking quite the same way. Although,
24:14
Speaker 1: Pitt's coming off this big emotional win on the road, Bone.
24:18
Speaker 1: And they've got a first-time starter at quarterback. The Tar Heels,
24:23
Speaker 1: I thought, I know Fitty doesn't want any damn moral victory.
24:26
Speaker 1: Atta boys for the Notre Dame performance. But I thought
24:29
Speaker 1: they did kind of hang in there. You know, they're
24:32
Speaker 1: clearly a very improved team from last year. So which game?
24:36
Speaker 1: Let's throw it out there to everybody. You include a bone.
24:39
Speaker 1: Which team do you think has the best chance of
24:41
Speaker 1: an upset this weekend, y'all? Carolina over Pitt or State
24:45
Speaker 1: over Wake? What would you say, Bone?
24:46
Speaker 3: Well, that spread is telling for Wake and State because
24:49
Speaker 3: that's three and a half on the road and you
24:51
Speaker 3: get three points at home. So they're saying neutral site there.
24:54
Speaker 3: Wake by almost a touchdown over State, right? So that's
24:57
Speaker 3: pretty telling.
24:59
Speaker 1: With that... The Pittsburgh.
25:01
Speaker 3: Quarterback situation is so unknown without their star quarterback, and
25:05
Speaker 3: he was playing like one of the best quarterbacks in America.
25:08
Speaker 3: To have that amount of money coming in on Pittsburgh,
25:10
Speaker 3: I think that's wrong. I think this is going to
25:13
Speaker 3: be a slugfest, a grinded-out game, which Belichick wants. I
25:17
Speaker 3: think the Heels get a big road win on Saturday.
25:21
Speaker 3: I think the Heels win that game.
25:23
Speaker 1: Now, you're right.
25:24
Speaker 3: If Heinzel was playing, I'm not saying that. But it's
25:27
Speaker 3: the first game without him that plays in the UNC's favor.
25:31
Speaker 3: I think they pulled off. I think Wake and State's
25:35
Speaker 3: very entertaining, but I think Wake ends up winning it.
25:39
Speaker 3: Both teams may score in the 30s. I know Wake's
25:41
Speaker 3: defense is pretty good, but I think both teams can
25:43
Speaker 3: get to the 30s. And Wake outlasts them 38-34. You know, 34-31,
25:49
Speaker 3: something like that. But you think they're both tight games.
25:52
Speaker 1: Yes. Different styles, but tight. We've got multiple people saying
25:56
Speaker 1: State has no chance against Wake. That's crazy. The way
26:00
Speaker 1: Bailey's been playing lately, you're starting to see Keenan Jackson emerge,
26:04
Speaker 1: Preston Douglas emerge. Now, here's the thing I worry about
26:06
Speaker 1: with State. Duke Scott healthy? I get the feeling they're
26:10
Speaker 1: not going to have Duke Scott. And two offensive linemen, right?
26:13
Speaker 1: Two offensive linemen. So how are they going to run
26:15
Speaker 1: the football missing two linemen and Duke Scott probably? And
26:19
Speaker 1: I hadn't looked at the availability report. I'll probably have
26:22
Speaker 1: to find that because I think it dropped last night
26:24
Speaker 1: for the first one. So I'm a little worried about
26:28
Speaker 1: Bailey having to carry State against Wake's defense. On the
26:33
Speaker 1: flip side, I do worry about State's defense, Bone. They
26:36
Speaker 1: still did give up a ton of yards today. Let's
26:39
Speaker 1: face it, if Harvey Dyson doesn't make an amazing effort play,
26:44
Speaker 1: you know, and run down Kiwan Brown and force the fumble,
26:47
Speaker 1: they probably lose that game to Louisville. But I expect
26:50
Speaker 1: it to be close. And there are some people now
26:53
Speaker 1: saying Carolina gets blown out. This texter says, the fact
26:56
Speaker 1: that Pitt is a worthy ranked team. won that game
27:00
Speaker 1: in Blacksburg with the crowd going crazy on Friday night,
27:03
Speaker 1: and you think they lose at home to this lame
27:06
Speaker 1: Tar Heel team, that's crazy to me. No, I think
27:09
Speaker 1: it was a fair point by Mac. It won't be close.
27:13
Speaker 3: Getting these teams back up after big wins is a
27:16
Speaker 3: challenging thing at times. We see it all the time
27:19
Speaker 3: in college sports. That's a very fair point by Maggie.
27:22
Speaker 3: Texter says, who cares what we think? What's Picante's picks? Well,
27:26
Speaker 3: he's right here in the text box. What's Picante saying
27:28
Speaker 3: on these games? We get a little bonus Picante? By
27:30
Speaker 3: the way, Picante nailed the over on Jacksonville State, Kennesaw
27:33
Speaker 3: State last night.
27:34
Speaker 1: This guy is an absolute... This dude's on fire. He
27:35
Speaker 1: had a winning week for us last week.
27:37
Speaker 3: He thinks that Wake for sure wins... But he thinks
27:42
Speaker 3: Pittsburgh wins big in this game.
27:43
Speaker 1: Wins big. Okay, so he's saying big, too. Let me
27:46
Speaker 1: ask you, Fitty. Oh, I also messed up. I put
27:49
Speaker 1: Wake in the triangle, which you would think I've been
27:52
Speaker 1: here for 22 years. I wouldn't say. I was kind
27:54
Speaker 1: of thinking like Tobacco Road, and I said triangle. So
27:57
Speaker 1: that is on me, y'all. Matter of fact, just mop
28:00
Speaker 1: me down. You know what I mean? Just mop me.
28:02
Speaker 1: Anything not near Mac is just triangle, right? It's all triangle.
28:06
Speaker 1: So I messed that up, baby. Triad. My bad. Wake.
28:09
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Deke fans. Y'all deserve better with this squad
28:11
Speaker 1: you got. Fitty, do you fear that Pitt's going to
28:16
Speaker 1: blow you out with a backup QB? No, I don't
28:19
Speaker 1: think Carolina's going to get blown out.
28:21
Speaker 6: I think this game will be highly competitive. I don't
28:25
Speaker 6: know if I trust Billy Edwards Jr. Mac to go
28:28
Speaker 6: on the road and win this football game. Because I
28:31
Speaker 6: don't know what to expect from him. Like, you look
28:35
Speaker 6: at the box score, 17 of 28 against Notre Dame.
28:39
Speaker 6: but had a costly pick six. The second interception he
28:43
Speaker 6: threw was arguably worse because he had Jordan Shippen just
28:46
Speaker 6: threw a bad ball. We haven't ran it well, really,
28:50
Speaker 6: since the weather delay against Clemson. We haven't been able
28:53
Speaker 6: to run the ball the way that we want to.
28:55
Speaker 1: And Pitt's great against the run, though. 55 yards a
28:58
Speaker 1: game allowed. And then defensively, like... You know, we had
29:01
Speaker 1: a chance.
29:02
Speaker 6: We interviewed Jeff Collins last night on the Heel Tough
29:04
Speaker 6: Blog podcast. He told us that there was not a
29:07
Speaker 6: way for us to stop them.
29:08
Speaker 1: It was just a bad matchup.
29:09
Speaker 6: But, Matt, what's our defense been since the second half
29:11
Speaker 6: against Clemson? 22-3 to a freshman quarterback. And then last week,
29:16
Speaker 6: Notre Dame did whatever they wanted to do. Like Belichick,
29:19
Speaker 6: you know, after TCU, we thought he was, like, back
29:21
Speaker 6: in his bag. Well, he might be back in Jordan
29:24
Speaker 6: Hudson's bag because he's getting his ass outcoached.
29:26
Speaker 1: Oh, my goodness. I didn't know where that was headed. Yeah,
29:28
Speaker 1: I was worried. I was worried. Oh, my heart just beat.
29:31
Speaker 1: So what do you guys think? I would probably go UNC,
29:35
Speaker 1: believe it or not, Bone. I know everybody thinks, well,
29:37
Speaker 1: Matt's going to show up. I just think this Wake
29:40
Speaker 1: team is really good, and we talked about the state
29:42
Speaker 1: offensive injuries, and I'm still not sold. State's pass rush,
29:46
Speaker 1: they're not going to bother Gio Lopez. Hell, when teams
29:48
Speaker 1: bother Gio Lopez, he just runs around and makes a play.
29:51
Speaker 3: And the problem that, you know, even though I think
29:53
Speaker 3: State can compete, the issue also would be the consistency
29:57
Speaker 3: of State. They're coming off the big home win. We
29:59
Speaker 3: know with that program who they are one week.
30:02
Speaker 1: They don't. It's a good point.
30:03
Speaker 3: It's not always the same the next week. Wake is
30:05
Speaker 3: much more consistent with Dicker right now than NC State.
30:09
Speaker 3: State doesn't validate. They don't follow up. Right.
30:12
Speaker 1: That's a very good point. Whereas I think Carolina is
30:15
Speaker 1: just we go back to the timing of these games. Right.
30:18
Speaker 1: Like when did Missouri get Florida? When did Florida get Mississippi?
30:21
Speaker 1: And I just think Pitt emotional win last week in Blacksburg,
30:25
Speaker 1: but they lost their QB. And this kid's starting for
30:28
Speaker 1: the first time. Like if they had him in his
30:30
Speaker 1: fourth start bone, he'd probably be a lot more settled in.
30:35
Speaker 1: But like his first start, How adventurous are they going
30:38
Speaker 1: to be on offense? Are they going to be kind
30:39
Speaker 1: of simple on offense? Could he turn the ball over?
30:42
Speaker 1: Heinzel wasn't turning it over. Could this kid turn it
30:45
Speaker 1: over and help Carolina out? A Virginia Tech fan back
30:49
Speaker 1: is looking for you. You keep saying emotional win for Pittsburgh.
30:53
Speaker 1: You can say emotional ending. We're still not sure about
30:55
Speaker 1: that field goal yet. Although we're now getting TikTok angles
30:59
Speaker 1: from the crowd. Yeah, you were showing me a crowd
31:00
Speaker 1: shot that made it look like maybe it missed. Roddy
31:03
Speaker 1: Jones said on the ACC podcast, said there is some
31:06
Speaker 1: dude out there that did like a, like almost engineering,
31:11
Speaker 1: like three different angle views and combined them together. That's
31:16
Speaker 1: where Bailey's been. And computed, and computed that it missed.
31:20
Speaker 1: Give me the meat. By 14 inches wide. Like, this
31:23
Speaker 1: guy did all these computations. So, I don't know. Do
31:26
Speaker 1: I trust this guy, or are they all full of it?
31:28
Speaker 1: I don't know.
31:28
Speaker 3: The TikTok video did zoom in as close as they could,
31:31
Speaker 3: and it did. I thought it was good, but that angle...
31:34
Speaker 3: It looked like he missed it.
31:35
Speaker 1: Now you're doubting. Yeah. Now you're doubting. But I'm not
31:38
Speaker 1: an engineer that's just in. Just in. And you didn't
31:42
Speaker 1: even say it at Holiday Inn Express last night. I
31:44
Speaker 1: don't know if that makes sense. I don't know if
31:46
Speaker 1: that does. No, it really doesn't. You're supposed to be,
31:48
Speaker 1: I'm not a doctor, and I didn't say it. This texter,
31:51
Speaker 1: never trust a guy named Billy Edwards Jr. That's a
31:54
Speaker 1: odd way of putting it.
31:55
Speaker 3: He does kind of have a NASCAR driver's name.
31:57
Speaker 1: Fort Mill Caniac says, you guys are right about getting
32:01
Speaker 1: up after big wins. My Charlotte 49ers have had trouble
32:04
Speaker 1: getting up after the big win against Monmouth last season. Yeah,
32:07
Speaker 1: there's been a hangover effect. 15 games worth of hangover,
32:12
Speaker 1: something like that.
32:12
Speaker 3: We were trying to figure out the other day, they
32:14
Speaker 3: were down by like 20 in that game, weren't they?
32:16
Speaker 3: If my memory serves, I think something like that in
32:20
Speaker 3: that game. So their one win under Albin was a
32:23
Speaker 3: big second half rally over Monmouth, if I'm correct on that.
32:26
Speaker 1: Over an FCS school where you gave up 35 points. Hey,
32:30
Speaker 1: it's better. One of the MFG called Monmouth. It's better
32:33
Speaker 1: than this year's FCS game where they gave up a
32:36
Speaker 1: ton of points and a loss to the Citadel. Yeah, Mac,
32:38
Speaker 1: it was. God.
32:40
Speaker 3: The 49ers in that game scored 35 points in the
32:43
Speaker 3: second half, 21 in the third quarter, to rally to
32:46
Speaker 3: beat Monmouth, 42-35.
32:47
Speaker 1: I know. And we were like, my God, that's sad.
32:49
Speaker 1: You got to rally to beat them? Well, this year
32:51
Speaker 1: they could beat their FCS opponent. Sorry, Charlotte fans. AC
32:55
Speaker 1: wants to know, Bone, if we see Charlotte over North
32:58
Speaker 1: Texas as four touchdown underdogs, as a possible local upset team.
33:04
Speaker 5: No.
33:04
Speaker 1: No. I told AC wrong team favorite. AC, I think
33:08
Speaker 1: you're going to be upset, but it's not an upset team.
33:11
Speaker 3: AC, worry about your– I got my AC notes here. AC,
33:14
Speaker 3: worry about your pack. AC, worry about your Tennessee Vols.
33:17
Speaker 3: Guy's got a lot of teams, man. AC, worry about
33:19
Speaker 3: saving me some money on those rates, baby. I've been
33:21
Speaker 3: doing good lately. You know what I mean?
33:23
Speaker 1: I've been performing better behind the wheel. Knock on wood,
33:25
Speaker 1: I don't want a Matt Gerson. Did I just Matt Gerson?
33:27
Speaker 1: You got a host of all yourself. We got Hurricane Insurance,
33:31
Speaker 1: who's a Virginia Tech fan, says he saw enough angles
33:34
Speaker 1: of the replay to say that Love missed it wide left.
33:38
Speaker 1: So there you go, Hoagie fans. It's all the different
33:41
Speaker 1: stages of grief. Love never misses, Mac. Oh! Wow. Man,
33:46
Speaker 1: Phitty is just a romantic now. Phitty, people are.
33:49
Speaker 3: are questioning how mellowed you are today. Everything okay back there?
33:52
Speaker 3: You're kind of just.
33:53
Speaker 1: I think he's tired. He had a long one yesterday.
33:55
Speaker 6: Do you want me to be, like, angry?
33:59
Speaker 1: I want you to get after it. Get after Mag.
34:02
Speaker 1: Make fun of the Yankees. Be Fitty, man. Make fun
34:05
Speaker 1: of the Yankees. Oh, Fitty, walk right through that door, baby.
34:08
Speaker 1: Give them a Yankees lose. Oh, Yankees lose. Yankees lose.
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Speaker 1: There you go.
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Speaker 4: Fit dog.
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Speaker 1: Make fun of the Braves. Fit dog. And also, give
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Speaker 1: us a real quick update, too, while you're back there,
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Speaker 1: if you don't mind. Oh, okay. I know it's kind
34:21
Speaker 1: of sprung on you there. I got to actually stop talking.
34:23
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? I'm waiting for his music.
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Speaker 1: There you go, baby. Come on, fit. Bring it on, baby. Fitting.
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Speaker 1: All right.
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Speaker 6: Let's just keep it with the MLB postseason results from yesterday. Obviously,
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Speaker 6: the big talking point, the Dodgers eliminate the Braves. They
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Speaker 6: win 4-1.
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Speaker 1: The Rays, they.
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Speaker 6: Sweep the Yankees 4-3. Aaron Boone was all smiles in
34:53
Speaker 6: the eighth inning while he was making a pitching change.
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Speaker 6: About to be eliminated from the postseason. It's because it
34:59
Speaker 6: was coming to an end for him. The Brewers are
35:02
Speaker 6: headed back to the NLCS. They eliminated the Padres with
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Speaker 6: a 3-1 win. We have a game four in the
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Speaker 6: ALDS between the Guardians and the White Sox. Cleveland keeps
35:12
Speaker 6: their season alive with a 9-3 win. Guys, if the
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Speaker 6: White Sox win today to advance to the ALCS, it'll
35:20
Speaker 6: be the second time in 126 years they've clinched a
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Speaker 6: playoff series at home. This is one of the most
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Speaker 6: oldest and historic franchises.
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Speaker 1: In the American League.
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Speaker 6: But this would be only their second ever playoff series
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Speaker 6: that they've won on their home field.
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Speaker 3: I do wonder, did... The Guardians, is it now their momentum?
35:45
Speaker 3: Their top two pitchers are available the next two games.
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Speaker 3: The way that went yesterday, the White Sox are a team,
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Speaker 3: a franchise, trying to learn how to win and close
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Speaker 3: out series. I do wonder if this still might be
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Speaker 3: the Guardian series they're fit on.
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Speaker 6: Did you see them interview this nine-year-old kid made the news?
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Speaker 6: This kid was crying because he's like, I saw all
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Speaker 6: the 100 lost seasons.
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Speaker 1: I deserve to see them win a playoff game at home.
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Speaker 1: Then they lost 9-3. Imagine crying over your sports team.
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Speaker 1: Who would do such a thing? That kid needs to
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Speaker 1: grow up. Did the kid just have to say goodbye
36:21
Speaker 1: to Cormac Ryan? What made him cry? I'm never going
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Speaker 1: to let that down. No, you're not.
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Speaker 3: When we come back, we got a lot of Panther stuff.
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Speaker 3: The Eagles continue to look beatable, the Panthers' next opponent.
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Speaker 3: Some Panther defensive stats no one is talking about, but
36:37
Speaker 3: we will. And a Dan Morgan rookie class is doing
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Speaker 3: it again. All that and more. Sports Radio 92.7 WFNZ.
37:23
Speaker 1: Sports Radio 92.7 WFNZ. Yeah, y'all are right. I just
37:27
Speaker 1: looked at that availability report. Multiple offensive linemen, including the
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Speaker 1: leader of that unit, Soles at center, still out. Left
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Speaker 1: tackle out for NC State, Bone. Teasdale in the secondary out.
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Speaker 1: Duke Scott out. That's not good with this Wake team,
37:42
Speaker 1: as good as they are coming in to Raleigh. Let's
37:45
Speaker 1: Panther it up, though, y'all. Let's Panther it up. We'll
37:48
Speaker 1: call this Panther Stuff, Boney. Just a bunch of different
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Speaker 1: things to bounce around to with the Panthers, including... I
37:54
Speaker 1: like the thought there of a Panther segment called Panther Stuff.
37:57
Speaker 1: It took me a lot of time. I spent about
37:58
Speaker 1: a half hour last night spitballing, you know, bouncing names
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Speaker 1: off the family. You know, what do y'all think? And
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Speaker 1: we came up with the amazing name of Panther Stuff.
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Speaker 1: Panther Stuff.
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Speaker 5: So.
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Speaker 1: Dan Morgan, I'm feeling like he did it again with
38:11
Speaker 1: this draft class bone. The Panthers are getting production from
38:15
Speaker 1: their rookies again. They are fifth in snap percentage played
38:19
Speaker 1: by rookies so far this season. And I have to
38:22
Speaker 1: be honest, I think there's guys we hadn't really talked about.
38:25
Speaker 1: Like a guy like Zaki Wheatley is now playing a
38:27
Speaker 1: very big role on this defense, even with Nick Scott back.
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Speaker 1: He still played a bunch of snaps. So I think
38:35
Speaker 1: you're seeing Lee Hunters playing a bunch of snaps. Has
38:37
Speaker 1: flashed at times, maybe not as much as I had hoped, Boney.
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Speaker 1: But this rookie class, you can see them making contributions freely.
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Speaker 1: It wasn't planned to have him play this many snaps,
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Speaker 1: but he is. So they're leaning on young guys. And
38:52
Speaker 1: for the second straight year, we're using rookies a lot.
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Speaker 1: And I feel like the guys are holding their own
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Speaker 1: for the most part.
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Speaker 3: Wheatley's the highest graded PFF defensive rookie safety this season.
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Speaker 3: Definitely needs to be talked about more. Think about the
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Speaker 3: upside of Caleb Downs. He's 13 points higher right now
39:11
Speaker 3: grade-wise than Caleb Downs. He's ahead of Thieneman. You talk
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Speaker 3: about being excited about the future of that safety spot
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Speaker 3: with him back there.
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Speaker 1: I said it. in the summer that I'm buying my
39:22
Speaker 1: weekly stock. Yeah, you liked it. Yeah, you liked it.
39:23
Speaker 1: And here I am, the Penn State guy that watched
39:26
Speaker 1: him play for my Nittany Lions, and I was kind
39:28
Speaker 1: of like, oh, let's see how he goes. over, man.
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Speaker 1: It's been good.
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Speaker 3: He's a long-range-y safety, Mac, in the mold of... Kind
39:36
Speaker 3: of what Seattle liked for a long time. So you
39:38
Speaker 3: can maybe see what they were looking at there with
39:40
Speaker 3: their Seattle connections. They love the DBs. They love the
39:43
Speaker 3: long DBs. I'm talking about wingspan, y'all. Everybody calm yourself down.
39:48
Speaker 3: All right, let's move along to defense, the defense. Because
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Speaker 3: I just kind of think there's been a feeling, Bone,
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Speaker 3: around Panther Nation that the defense hadn't been good.
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Speaker 1: The offense has been great. The defense hasn't been good.
40:02
Speaker 1: I decided, I have noticed, Bone, a distinct improvement in
40:07
Speaker 1: the defense from, you know, from the hideous performance against Chicago.
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Speaker 1: But I wanted to look it up. How much better
40:14
Speaker 1: are they playing? So I went to Sumer Sports last night. Bone,
40:18
Speaker 1: since the first game, which, by the way, is one
40:20
Speaker 1: of the worst defensive play football games I have seen
40:23
Speaker 1: in my entire lengthy life of watching football. I fully
40:26
Speaker 1: acknowledge that. And you watched this two years ago. Yeah,
40:30
Speaker 1: and I made it through 2024. But the last three weeks, Bone,
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Speaker 1: their total EPA as a defense is seventh in the
40:37
Speaker 1: NFL over that span. EPA per play, seventh in the
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Speaker 1: NFL over that span.
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Speaker 5: So.
40:43
Speaker 1: Don't look now. This defense bone has righted the ship.
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Speaker 1: Seventh over a three-week stretch. What did we think they
40:50
Speaker 1: were going to be coming into the season? Bottom portion
40:53
Speaker 1: of the top 10. So we'll see where they settle.
40:56
Speaker 1: I'm not necessarily going to sit here and scream and
40:58
Speaker 1: tell you this is definitely a top 10 defense. They
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Speaker 1: have to undo bone the statistical. Crap from week one.
41:05
Speaker 1: But I do think they've got it headed in the
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Speaker 1: right direction and multiple big stops in the fourth quarter
41:11
Speaker 1: on Downsbone against a really good freaking offense the other night.
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Speaker 3: I don't have a lot to add because you told
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Speaker 3: me not to look now. So I just you have
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Speaker 3: all the I can't look at the numbers.
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Speaker 1: You told me. Oh, I didn't mean to tell you.
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Speaker 1: Don't look now. So I'm like, oh, that was just
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Speaker 1: an expression. Look away, baby. Look away. Sumer Sports it up, man.
41:30
Speaker 1: Sumer Sports is ridiculous. It's a great site. I started
41:32
Speaker 1: to pair that up now and not just go just PFF,
41:35
Speaker 1: kind of use them both. And they both do their
41:38
Speaker 1: own things. They both do different things. And you'll see
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Speaker 1: some kind of cool trends on there. Like we went
41:44
Speaker 1: backbone to the to 89 percent man this week or
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Speaker 1: zone this week. Like I kind of thought we would
41:50
Speaker 1: with the corners out. I would think we'd go back
41:52
Speaker 1: to being zone heavy. But before that, we really, in
41:54
Speaker 1: the first three games, we really mixed in more man
41:57
Speaker 1: than we have. We blitzed way more. We're the seventh
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Speaker 1: highest blitz percentage team in the NFL with the Vero.
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Speaker 1: Brian wants you to explain the EPA stat. It's like
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Speaker 1: an efficiency number. So like per play, you get an
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Speaker 1: efficiency number per play, essentially, Bone, by the statistical formula.
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Speaker 1: So the EPA per play one is just like each
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Speaker 1: play is separate. The total EPA number just adds up
42:22
Speaker 1: your efficiency on every play for like a total number. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: So that's what it is. It's just one of these,
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Speaker 1: you know, metrics that is done to judge efficiency. What
42:31
Speaker 1: does it stand for? Estimated pass arrival? Estimated... I don't
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Speaker 1: know what it is. That's a good point. Is that
42:37
Speaker 1: a stat passer? I just made that whole thing up.
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Speaker 1: Passer rival. it's uh it's when the pass is gonna
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Speaker 1: arrive at the destination what does epa stand for why
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Speaker 1: y'all gotta ask me the hard questions um on offense
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Speaker 1: we're eighth in in uh total epa and epa per
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Speaker 1: play for the season um now i gotta figure out
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Speaker 1: what the hell that stands for let's go to uh
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Speaker 1: the eagles expected uh expected points added there you go
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Speaker 1: per play expected not not expected pass arrival expected pass
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Speaker 1: please the pass will arrive here in probably about 2.1
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Speaker 1: seconds Unless you're playing for Tampa Bay and that pass
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Speaker 1: will never arrive. Let's talk about the Eagles bone. If
43:16
Speaker 1: I talk like a pilot, I'll show. Go ahead, baby.
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Speaker 6: Go ahead.
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Speaker 1: That could be your new thing. How about the Eagles?
43:21
Speaker 1: And I am not, I don't want to Matt curse this.
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Speaker 1: I'm not doing a guarantee. But it is ridiculous the
43:27
Speaker 1: way they're dropping like flies off that offensive line. Lane Johnson,
43:30
Speaker 1: of course, retired. Um, uh, you know, for mental health reasons, bone. Um,
43:36
Speaker 1: but then you had, uh, you already have Landon Dickinson out, um,
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Speaker 1: on their offensive line on IR. And now yesterday they
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Speaker 1: trade cam Juergens. Who's a former pro bowl center who
43:47
Speaker 1: has had to play guard with Dickinson out. It has
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Speaker 1: not been as good at guard as he is at center.
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Speaker 1: So that's the, uh, I think they said for the
43:55
Speaker 1: depth chart this week, bone, only one starter remains, uh,
43:59
Speaker 1: from their preferred starting five in training camp. That offensive
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Speaker 1: line's a shell of itself. Devontae Smith is apparently going
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Speaker 1: to miss time with a hamstring injury. Goddard's been out?
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Speaker 3: Goddard's been out. It's crazy, dude. What is happening there?
44:14
Speaker 3: Maybe an Eagles fan can weigh in, because obviously Lane
44:17
Speaker 3: Johnson retiring is... his decision, but to trade a former
44:20
Speaker 3: Pro Bowl center, after you traded A.J. Brown, I know
44:23
Speaker 3: things were a mess there, but for a team that's
44:26
Speaker 3: trying to find their offensive identity, they're not exactly... Things
44:30
Speaker 3: aren't exactly trending in the right direction right now for
44:32
Speaker 3: the Eagles. Like, you traded a star... Like, are they tanking?
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Speaker 3: That's what I wondered.
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Speaker 1: Are they doing some... little weird reset here yeah i
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Speaker 1: don't know it's very odd to do that and your
44:43
Speaker 1: your offensive line team that desperately needs to win now
44:46
Speaker 1: and you desperately need your offensive lineman you trade one
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Speaker 1: of your best one after one of your other best
44:51
Speaker 1: ones retires and then your third best one is out
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Speaker 1: it's just it is really weird but i'm not i'm
44:56
Speaker 1: not gonna complain about it man i asked zoki today
44:58
Speaker 1: what was going on he said they like their interior
45:00
Speaker 1: guys but i would think that they work on that
45:03
Speaker 1: in the offseason then like you got a pro bowler
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Speaker 1: there I thought Cam Juergens was one of their best
45:07
Speaker 1: interior guys. So is the other dude that's out, Dickinson.
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Speaker 1: I do need to mention a couple things. The arrival
45:12
Speaker 1: of the tight ends this season, Bone. I love the
45:14
Speaker 1: way this group's contributing. Darren Waller, first in average separation
45:18
Speaker 1: per route among tight ends in the entire NFL. And
45:22
Speaker 1: Tommy Tremblebone is third. in separation per route.
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Speaker 3: Waller also leads the league in waffle house appearances in
45:29
Speaker 3: post games.
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Speaker 1: You gotta love a guy that goes to the damn
45:33
Speaker 1: waffle house after the game get some smothered covered and
45:36
Speaker 1: chunked if he if he puts.
45:37
Speaker 3: Money from atlanta right that's part of the connection oh
45:40
Speaker 3: yeah he loves the place.
45:41
Speaker 1: If he puts money in that jukebox too man that's
45:43
Speaker 1: a waffle house all-star bro Seriously.
45:46
Speaker 3: When we come back, Taylor Tannenbaum, ACC Network back. She's
45:49
Speaker 3: actually in town, or was in town, doing basketball coverage.
45:53
Speaker 3: We're going to talk football with her as well.
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Speaker 1: Taylor's next. Sports Radio, 92.7 WFNZ.