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The One With Janet Caperna From The Valley · Untraditionally Lala

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  Speaker 1: Hello, gorgeous. It is Lala Kent. Welcome to the Give
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  Speaker 1: Them Lala Podcast. We're fresh off of We've had Halloween
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  Speaker 1: Happen booky season. Janet showed up to trigger treat well. Hi,
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  Speaker 1: Janet Caperna.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, I'm so excited to be here.
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  Speaker 3: More excited.
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  Speaker 2: I love it.
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  Speaker 1: We're very excited because you kill it on Sheena's podcast.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you, you're like seasoned in the podcast world.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks, don't you think? Yeah, it felt like the right
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  Speaker 2: thing to do. Jared, Jason and I have our own
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  Speaker 2: now too, and it Yeah, if I love podcasting.
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  Speaker 1: Let's talk about that first. What made you go, you
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  Speaker 1: know what, we need to start a podcast? Because not
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  Speaker 1: to throw shade at anybody, even I sit here and
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, there are a million in one podcast that
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  Speaker 1: trio though with you, your husband Jason and then your
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  Speaker 1: gusband Jared yep, what is the dynamic like and what
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  Speaker 1: would you say your podcast is? Like? Like, what do
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  Speaker 1: you guys talk about?
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  Speaker 2: I love it, so I love to chat and I
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  Speaker 2: feel like that's all I do. So it felt right
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  Speaker 2: for me to have one. And I felt like she
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  Speaker 2: and I kind of gave me training wheels with hers,
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  Speaker 2: like I got to co host and it wasn't you know,
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  Speaker 2: my podcast, but I got to be around regularly and
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  Speaker 2: I was like, I really like this, So I wanted
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  Speaker 2: to do my own, but I wanted it to be
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  Speaker 2: a little bit different than everybody else, and I didn't
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  Speaker 2: want it to just be me. So I was like, Okay, well,
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  Speaker 2: I definitely I would love Jared on And then I
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  Speaker 2: was like, but Jared and Jason have such a great
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  Speaker 2: dynamic where that you don't see that often, and so
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  Speaker 2: I was like, it'll be fun if the three of
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  Speaker 2: us do it. And now we also called Jason like
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  Speaker 2: our legal expert, so Jared and I will be in there.
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  Speaker 2: We'll be like, Jared'll be like, she literally did this,
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  Speaker 2: and Jason was like, but wait, did she actually do that?
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  Speaker 2: And he's like, well no, and he's like, well, then
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  Speaker 2: you need to say allegedly.
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  Speaker 4: We live and die by allegedly yes.
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  Speaker 2: And so it's like a fun, interesting, you know, dynamic
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  Speaker 2: the three of us that I don't think you see
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  Speaker 2: very often, and we just talk shit on there.
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  Speaker 1: I love that. Now you're on a show called The Valley.
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  Speaker 3: I've never heard of it.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my god, it's crazy.
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  Speaker 1: You just finished season two, and I am well aware
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  Speaker 1: that Bravo will have my head and your head on
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  Speaker 1: a platter if we deep dive into it, So I'm
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  Speaker 1: going to stay away from it. But I do want
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  Speaker 1: to know. Was it weird when you first started filming
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  Speaker 1: and you're like, they're like, just live your life. When
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  Speaker 1: someone tells me to do something that I do pretty
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  Speaker 1: much every day, I suddenly forget how to do it.
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  Speaker 3: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's an awkward thing. Like they'll be like, you know,
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  Speaker 2: You'll like, we'll be over this morning just whatever your
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  Speaker 2: morning routine is. And I'm like, so you want to
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  Speaker 2: watch me? Like scroll on TikTok, I like.
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  Speaker 3: Take a shit.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, Like my morning routine is not beautiful. I'll tell
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  Speaker 4: you what.
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, what am I supposed to I don't know
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  Speaker 2: it is. It's like suddenly you like realize you have
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  Speaker 2: hands and you're like, what am I?
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  Speaker 1: What am I supposed to do with these? What do
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  Speaker 1: you change? Right?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's weird. And the whole process it really does,
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  Speaker 2: I think take a year to get used to because
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  Speaker 2: when you film, you get close to the crew and
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  Speaker 2: the people who are around all the time, so it
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  Speaker 2: feels you kind of in a weird way. Do you
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  Speaker 2: forget that cameras are there, or it feels comfortable that
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  Speaker 2: cameras are there. Then time passes before it airs, and
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  Speaker 2: that's a whole other beast and situation Gary, And you
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  Speaker 2: watch it all back and then you see everybody's perception
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  Speaker 2: of it, and so it really is like a full
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  Speaker 2: year of like getting in it before you really realize
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  Speaker 2: what it is.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like Jason the first season was very much like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: this is strange. And then I feel like not only Jason,
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  Speaker 1: but most people and just what I've seen when I
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  Speaker 1: see a new season of Housewives where it's like a
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  Speaker 1: brand new city, brand new people that are just like
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  Speaker 1: bride eyed and bushy tailed, And then come the second season,
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  Speaker 1: they know the drill and you never know is that
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  Speaker 1: you're right? Isn't my turn? I don't know right? And
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  Speaker 1: if you go past a few seasons, you're gonna have
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  Speaker 1: more than.
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  Speaker 4: One bad run.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and it can sometimes take you out. Do you
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  Speaker 1: feel like season two you kind of have been able
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  Speaker 1: to adjust to, like, Okay, I know when to quiet
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  Speaker 1: the noise, I know when to not look. We talk
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  Speaker 1: about this all the time.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if I learned my lesson season one
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  Speaker 2: per se it's interesting and it's you know, I actually
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  Speaker 2: used to like make fun of she next you'd be like, well,
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  Speaker 2: season four, and I'm like, well, what year are you
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  Speaker 2: talking about? Like she lives her life and seasons, But
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  Speaker 2: it really is like that now, and it's crazy because
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  Speaker 2: it is a different chapter. So season one, I was pregnant.
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  Speaker 2: Season two, I had just stopped breastfeeding right before we
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  Speaker 2: started filming so that I could really like have a drink,
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  Speaker 2: get in the mix right, And that was a totally
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  Speaker 2: different thing for me, like being able. I had never
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  Speaker 2: had a drink on camera before. I don't know if
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  Speaker 2: it was a great idea.
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  Speaker 1: You know, there there are seas, and this is what
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  Speaker 1: this is what I try to tell, Like when people
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  Speaker 1: are now in this environment, you know, the cringe moments
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  Speaker 1: that you sometimes have where you look back or like
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  Speaker 1: you watch it and go, oh my gosh, I never
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  Speaker 1: should have acted that way will one day become iconic
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  Speaker 1: and funny and funny and you'll be able to laugh
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  Speaker 1: about it. And I try. When I'm having all the
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  Speaker 1: anxiety in the world about a season or a moment,
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, there's going to be a day where we're
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  Speaker 1: all like super old and we're going to look back
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  Speaker 1: and we're going to forget all of those like little
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  Speaker 1: nuances and just remember that we were on a really
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  Speaker 1: cool show.
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  Speaker 2: I had the core experience with this group of people, right,
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  Speaker 2: and you're bonded and a really maybe even like trauma
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  Speaker 2: bonded and the trauma bonded.
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  Speaker 4: I have a question, what is the worst part of filming?
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  Speaker 4: The filming, mentally waiting for it to release or when
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  Speaker 4: it releases. And I feel like that's a thing for
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  Speaker 4: both of you, Like, what.
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  Speaker 1: Is the worst part of like in all three stages?
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  Speaker 4: Yes, is it filming what you filmed and waiting for
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  Speaker 4: it to release and thinking what is everybody gonna fucking
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  Speaker 4: think of me?
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  Speaker 3: Or having people watch you through it.
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  Speaker 2: I think there's pros and cons to each. During filming,
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  Speaker 2: it's just a it's a busy time because you're doing
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  Speaker 2: so much and it all happens so fast, and you're
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  Speaker 2: just kind of like you kind of almost have to
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  Speaker 2: like pause, like doing laundry or like anything that like
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  Speaker 2: you're like everyday life kind of has to pause because
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  Speaker 2: you're just like busy. Right afterwards, once I'm done, I
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  Speaker 2: don't have anxiety about it. I feel maybe I should.
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  Speaker 2: But right now that we're in that in between the
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  Speaker 2: quiet time, I like this time a lot.
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  Speaker 1: Well.
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  Speaker 4: I feel like, because you're real and honest, the people
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  Speaker 4: who weren't, who were like, oh god, I feel like
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  Speaker 4: that's their shittiest time.
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  Speaker 2: I have moments I'm looking I'm like that, I'm like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: that's going to be bad, or like okay, like my
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  Speaker 2: mom might be like what the hell were you thinking?
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  Speaker 2: I love you know, during the whatever, So I know
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to have moments that I'm not super proud
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  Speaker 2: of or that I'm not looking forward to rewatching. But
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  Speaker 2: right now, what can I do about it? It's going
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  Speaker 2: to be months and months, So I try to enjoy
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  Speaker 2: the quiet, get back into like laundry and organizing my
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  Speaker 2: house and doing all the boring shit that like you
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  Speaker 2: don't necessarily have time to.
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  Speaker 4: Go back to being a normal human yes.
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  Speaker 2: And just enjoy the basic everyday life when it's airing,
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  Speaker 2: I will say, I think for me, that's the most
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  Speaker 2: anxiety I have, Oh my god, because sometimes you even
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  Speaker 2: you know, when I'll see an episode and I'm like okay, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: all right, I you know, I said what I said.
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  Speaker 2: I think that they summed up how I felt really well,
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  Speaker 2: that was fair and I think people are gonna understand.
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  Speaker 2: And then the audience sees it. There you go twenty
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  Speaker 2: four hours later and they're like, fuck her, and I'm like, what.
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  Speaker 1: You're like, I came across so great in that episode.
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  Speaker 1: I was logical, right saw both sides or those times.
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  Speaker 2: Where I'm like, I'm like, oh man, that I shouldn't
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  Speaker 2: have said that one thing, and it's in and everybody's
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  Speaker 2: going to drag me for it, and people breeze right
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  Speaker 2: past it. So I would say, like, the hardest part
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  Speaker 2: is you can't ever feel like you can watch something
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  Speaker 2: and feel like, oh it's super great or it's horrible,
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  Speaker 2: and it might not be what everybody else thinks.
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  Speaker 1: And you know what we're gonna say.
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  Speaker 4: I was just going to say, from first season to second,
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  Speaker 4: what did you find out you enjoyed more or less?
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  Speaker 2: You know, I think second season I just was like
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  Speaker 2: I realized I just need to stop and enjoy the process.
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, when first season it was like, oh
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  Speaker 2: my god, when is this going to be over? And
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  Speaker 2: it's just it was you know, I was pregnant, so
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  Speaker 2: I was also just.
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  Speaker 1: Like very hormonial.
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  Speaker 2: I couldn't wait for everything to be done and to
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  Speaker 2: get back to just like being a homebody right and
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  Speaker 2: now second season, I was like, it's as soon as
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  Speaker 2: you start saying like, oh I need a break, it's
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  Speaker 2: over in a heartbeat and it flies by. So I
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  Speaker 2: could kind of reassure myself season two, Okay, enjoy the time,
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  Speaker 2: and you know, know that you get to see your
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  Speaker 2: friends like every day, you know, when we're not filming
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  Speaker 2: with each other frequently, but during filming, it's like you
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  Speaker 2: get to see everybody every day. Like try to actually
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  Speaker 2: enjoy and then wait for it to be over, because
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  Speaker 2: it'll be over. It flies by.
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  Speaker 1: I know. It's really sad. Don't even get me started
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  Speaker 1: on time because I have a very I don't know
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  Speaker 1: if it would be called an unhealthy relationship with time,
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  Speaker 1: but it brings me to my fucking need when I
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  Speaker 1: think of time passing and things being over and done,
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  Speaker 1: and I feel like when you film a show like
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  Speaker 1: back in the day, like you never know where you're
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  Speaker 1: gonna end up, right totally, and you always end up
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  Speaker 1: in a place where you're like wow, and as time
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  Speaker 1: goes by, You're like, I wish that I would have.
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  Speaker 1: I get asked this all the time too, by the way,
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  Speaker 1: like what would you tell your younger self? Or what
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  Speaker 1: would you tell season four you? And it reminded me
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  Speaker 1: of there's this new movie that has come out, so
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  Speaker 1: I want to talk about the movie trailer. And this
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  Speaker 1: is what prompted me, because I also want to know
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  Speaker 1: what you think, Janet. So there's this movie that I
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  Speaker 1: I saw this weekend and it's called My Old Ass
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  Speaker 1: and it's gonna be on Amazon Prime. But basically, the
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  Speaker 1: movie is about an eighteen year old girl who takes
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  Speaker 1: mushrooms and the trip she goes on brings her face
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  Speaker 1: to face with her older self, and of course her
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  Speaker 1: older self is telling her all the things that she
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  Speaker 1: should and shouldn't do in her life. And it made
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  Speaker 1: me start thinking what I would tell my younger self
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  Speaker 1: if I had the chance. So Easton and Janet, I'm
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  Speaker 1: sure you guys have some things that you would like
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  Speaker 1: to warn your younger self about, and I want to
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  Speaker 1: know what those things would be. If you could go
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  Speaker 1: back in time, whether it's yay hi last season, what
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  Speaker 1: would you tell your younger.
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  Speaker 2: Selff you know. I think I would actually tell myself, like,
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  Speaker 2: it's all gonna be okay, just do it and let
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  Speaker 2: myself actually make the same mistakes because now you know,
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  Speaker 2: everything leads you to where you are now, and I'm
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  Speaker 2: happy where I am now, so I wouldn't. I'm also
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  Speaker 2: afraid of like butterfly effects, stuff like if you change
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  Speaker 2: one thing, then the smallest thing like that could disrupt
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  Speaker 2: the whole big picture in the future. So it's like
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  Speaker 2: I would tell myself, like, it's all everything's going to
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  Speaker 2: be okay. You're going to go through some shit, but
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  Speaker 2: it's all going to be okay.
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  Speaker 1: I love that. I'm scared of things like that too,
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  Speaker 1: though I'm like, one little change and the whole picture different.
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  Speaker 4: Oh my god, I really know like him, what.
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  Speaker 1: Would you tell your younger self teas to not be.
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  Speaker 4: Afraid to put yourself out there, Like, don't worry about
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  Speaker 4: other people's opinion of you. You know who you are
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  Speaker 4: and then their success and failure, so always try and
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  Speaker 4: you'll learn from it. So I would just say, put
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  Speaker 4: yourself out there and don't be afraid to try.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah and fail.
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  Speaker 1: I love that ours are all very like cute and sentimental.
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  Speaker 1: I think if I could go back and tell my
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  Speaker 1: younger self something, I think I'd go back and be like,
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  Speaker 1: I'm just here for the ride, like don't listen to me.
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  Speaker 1: Like I may know what the future holds, but like
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  Speaker 1: it looks pretty fucking awesome, So just like do the
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  Speaker 1: damn thing. The one thing I'm gonna tell you, though, girl,
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  Speaker 1: is like, you know how you are a drinker. You're
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  Speaker 1: soon gonna be an AA and that's all good, like
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  Speaker 1: you're gonna thrive in it. But like maybe don't like
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  Speaker 1: say stupid things that you're gonna regret tomorrow, those things,
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  Speaker 1: like just shut up. You know that's fair, because like
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  Speaker 1: you said, one one thing that would be different, the
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  Speaker 1: entire picture looks different. And I can go back in
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  Speaker 1: time and say I wish I wouldn't have done X,
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  Speaker 1: Y and Z. Well, then ocean wouldn't be here, you know,
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  Speaker 1: so so wouldn't be here. So I love. I love
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  Speaker 1: everyone's answers for sharing that I know.
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  Speaker 2: I often think back to I when I first met Sena.
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  Speaker 2: I was staying at an airbnb that was in Hollywood.
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  Speaker 2: My friend and I went to a bar that was
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  Speaker 2: walking distance from our airbnb. We asked the bartender, like
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  Speaker 2: what's cool in La to do? Like what should we
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  Speaker 2: do today? The bartender was like, you should go to
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  Speaker 2: the Mandria and they have a pool party, and that's
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  Speaker 2: where I met Sena and life all happened. Like I
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  Speaker 2: always joke I'm gonna write a memoir one day that's
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  Speaker 2: like I owe my life to Sheena. She that's amazing
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  Speaker 2: because if I wouldn't have met her, I wouldn't be
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  Speaker 2: doing the valley and wouldn't have this whole life now it's,
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  Speaker 2: you know, become my career. I wouldn't have met Jason,
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  Speaker 2: so I wouldn't have had my baby, my husband, Like
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  Speaker 2: so much has come from my friendship with Shea A lot,
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  Speaker 2: my friendship with you. Literally where I'm sitting here right
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  Speaker 2: now is all because of that one day. And it's
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  Speaker 2: because this one bartender told us to go to this
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  Speaker 2: pool and I started a friendship that then started a relationship.
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  Speaker 2: Like everything. So I often think back, like if I
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  Speaker 2: would have gone somewhere else that day, my life would
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  Speaker 2: be completely different.
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  Speaker 4: Totalfe, Yeah, wows.
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  Speaker 2: I think back to you, like if I wouldn't have
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  Speaker 2: picked that airbnb that was near that bar, It's like
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  Speaker 2: all these little choices that you don't think. You're like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: which airbingb, I know this one or this one. I'll
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  Speaker 2: just pick this one and it ends up like leading
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  Speaker 2: you down this path. That's now you know my life
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  Speaker 2: would literally be completely different.
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  Speaker 4: Wow.
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  Speaker 3: I'm very happy that you said that and this was
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  Speaker 3: the topic.
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  Speaker 1: You grow wild that the movie My Old Ass would
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  Speaker 1: take us on such an incredible journey of being grateful
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  Speaker 1: for the life choices that we've made. Ever wish you
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  Speaker 1: could have a talk with your younger self in My
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  Speaker 1: Old Ass starring Aubrey Plaza and Mazie Stella from Amazon,
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  Speaker 1: MGM Studios, Elliot's wise cracking older self gets the chance.
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  Speaker 1: My Old Ass rated R, coming soon to Prime Video.
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  Speaker 1: So Jannet and I we've been friends for a really
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  Speaker 1: long time. It's so interesting because when people see me
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  Speaker 1: post with you, they're like, she's trying to get on
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  Speaker 1: the valley. I'm like, honey, I'm a fucking star.
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  Speaker 2: More like I've tried to drag La La onto the valley.
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  Speaker 1: No, we've been friends for a really long time before
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  Speaker 1: the Valley even existed, and you and I took our families.
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  Speaker 1: You were kind enough to invite us to go trigger
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  Speaker 1: treating with you. It's so much fun. It was so
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  Speaker 1: much fun. What were you?
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  Speaker 4: Oh?
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  Speaker 1: So we were food.
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  Speaker 2: Cameron was a hot dog, yes, son, he was so
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  Speaker 2: cute as a hot dog.
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  Speaker 1: He was adorable.
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  Speaker 2: And then I was a hamburger and Jasma's French fries.
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  Speaker 2: And then Jared was a donut.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, and it was Oh, I'm gonna tell the story.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just gonna round this back one time. So we
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  Speaker 1: were I left so Sa at home with the night nurse.
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  Speaker 1: Ocean decided to be a skeleton that night. I wanted
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  Speaker 1: to dress her as Cinderella, but there's no telling her
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: what she's doing. When she has her mind made up,
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: you can fuck right off.
• 15:38
  Speaker 2: I was gonna ask, what's the process for asking her?
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: Do you just say, hey, you have to dress up?
• 15:43
  Speaker 2: Like I feel like this is the first year that
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: she could be like picky about.
• 15:47
  Speaker 3: What she dresses up.
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: Every day she dresses up as a princess everything. But yeah,
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: I asked her. I gave her options because she is
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: all over the place, so I kind of have to
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: bring her back down to like giving her a cup
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: full of options, and then she picks. So she went
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: to a party the day before Halloween as a princess
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: and then to trick her treat as a skeleton, and
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: she loved her face paint, right. The plan was Cinderella
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: for her, and so so was going as Gus Gus.
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: Sosa didn't even dress up because she was adamant that
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: she was going to be a skeleton. I'm like, well,
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: now Sosa is just gonna look like all right, which
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: is still cute but also sounds very hard for me
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: to have to deal with pushing her around. And the
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: reason I say I'm weird with time is I looked
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: at ocean and was like, next year, she's going to
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: be a fully different human being, you know. Like she
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: went with her dad on a vacation. It was one week.
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: She came back saying her ours. So what was once
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: summer moon is now summer moon. Oh no, I hate
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: it too.
• 16:54
  Speaker 4: No, it was off growing up.
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: So time brings me to my niece. But I had
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: the best time with you guys, because it's always just
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: lighthearted and fun. And Jared, who's who I call your
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: guys band? Yes, I walk up because Cam can't walk yet. No,
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: he's a stroller trigger treater.
• 17:14
  Speaker 4: Oh the best, the best, guy.
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And I walk up to this house and I
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: have pretty cool shoes on, right, and I'm with Ocean
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: and we're like trigger treat and the woman says, wow,
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: your dad has such cool shoes on. And I look down.
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: I'm like, they are cool shoes, but like, on what
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: planet do I.
• 17:32
  Speaker 4: Look like a dad?
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: And I was like whatever, you know, four California. You're right,
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: I'm wearing both hats. And then I look behind me
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: and Jared got these chrome shoes on that light up.
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: Who could not look any ganger?
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: Right, I mean in full glam. Also he had full glamy.
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: He had sprinkles drawn on his cheeks, like and full glam.
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: So he did. He certainly did.
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: But you know what, he could be a dad with
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: full glam, with a.
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: Like he goes the amount of times a day that
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: I get you know, your husband is this, that and
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: the other when he's with Jamy. Yeah, they just constantly
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: think that that's your baby daddy.
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: I've had people Jared and I were at the grocery
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: store once and he was pushing Cameron. I was pushing
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: the cart and it's always old people. It's like seventy
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: five plus. They stop, they're like, I don't have anywhere
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: to be, so you don't have anywhere to be. I
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: need to stop and like just tell you how cute
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: your baby is. For like twenty minutes, this old couple
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: stopped us and was like, I see both of you
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: in him, and I was like, wait, looking at Jared,
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: my husband, but father of my child, I'm like, I
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: get it because we're together, like chat and pushing him
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: around the grocery store. I'm sure we looked like a
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: really adorable couple. But I was like, oh my god, well.
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: Poor Jared.
• 18:50
  Speaker 4: I's over here trying to be as gay as he can.
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: And he's like, I'm still well.
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: It's like ever love for Jared.
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: Next, Jason always says, like the best compliment is if
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: somebody thinks he's gay. He's like, wow, I must be
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: dressed really well today. My arms must be like ripped.
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: I must look so good if, like, if they think
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: I'm gay, I'm doing it all right. Jared's like, you
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: think I'm a straight man, don't offend me like that. Yeah,
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: He's like what if if I not? Don't like, I'm
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: putting all this effort into looking stunning, gorgeous, perfect, I know,
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: and you think I'm a straight man.
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, No, it's beyond rude. You should have seen his face.
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: Rude.
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: He's like, I got dressed up like this just for
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: people to think them I'm the baby daddy. Absolutely not.
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: I have to say though, Jared, So I took Ocean
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: to a drag show when she was young and obviously
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: doesn't remember. And she loved it, right because she's always
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: loved the music, you know, singing stand too. She certainly
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: is right now she's on TLC's No Scrubs.
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: I love that.
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: That is her whole vibe. We listened to it all
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: the week to school today. I love it. But she
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: we went to the Paris Hilton Suite, which was so fabulous.
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: Ocean had the best time. But Jared arrives at my
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: house before we go and full full glam, gorgeous as
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: ever an Ocean comes up and goes mom. Jared has
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: makeup on, and she was a little nervous, and we
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: learned something Jared taught my daughter. I thought I had
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: taught her by taking her to a drag show at
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: the age of one and a half, but she clearly
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: didn't remember. But Jared is just teaching Ocean all kinds
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: of things to like Lonna del Rey that boys can
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: wear makeup too, and now she's telling us that she
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: wants to put makeup on Easton because boys can wear
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: makeup too.
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: You have to let her.
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: You don't think it's like a massage on the face.
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: I'm looking forward to it.
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: I'm like, you guys, need you need to do a
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: like a TikToker or whatever the kids are doing these
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: days of the process of my make up. Yeah, and
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: then you need to have her do a voice over
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: of like and this is me putting on eyeshadow.
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: Jannet, You're a fucking genie. And I'm I was like,
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: thank you, no, absolutely doing that. And while we were
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: trick or treating you guys. So I don't know if
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: any of you guys have been living under a rock,
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: but the La Dodgers took the motherfucking World Series. You guys,
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: when I get a whoop whoop in it?
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: Amen, you're such a sports girl.
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: Now, well, I live with like dudes who constantly.
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: Like we'll be over at the other house'll walk in
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: and go, why aren't you at our house watching it?
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: So we'll stumble on over to her house and then
• 21:24
  Speaker 4: she'll watch it with us.
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: The house just feels alive. And I got dinner with
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: Stossy the other night and we were talking about sports
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: sports because Game four was on and we didn't take
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: it until Game five in New York. But she was like,
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: we had a phone now, and she was like, I
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: just don't you know, Like I'm not into it, she said,
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: but I do love when Bo has football on on
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: Sundays because she goes. Even when it's just myself, Bo
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: and the kids, it feels like the house is alive
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: between like the game and cheering and then Bo's reaction.
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: I feel like that's why I'm into the sports.
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I like that. I actually I have never really
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: thought about like that because I'm not a sports girl.
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: But there is something that's like active and alive, and
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: there's always like it makes you feel like cooking something good.
• 22:07
  Speaker 4: I was just about to say, I know a lot
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: of like people, even dudes that just like taking care
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: of the people.
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: So they're making the.
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: Food while we're all watching football.
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: But they just love to do that. It's like taking care.
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: They like to host.
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: Yes, there's something about it where you just feel like there's.
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: Something about friends.
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: Yes, Yes, I don't like being that person though I do. Okay,
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: so you can be you can be the host. You
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: hosted the Utah youth football game a few years ago.
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: I remember, yeah, it was amazing. But while we were
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: trigger treating, we saw already a legend Freddy.
• 22:45
  Speaker 4: I didn't know.
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: I was just like, there's a tall guy and everybody
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: as he's walking by, everybody is turning around like oh
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: my god. And I'm like, the fuck is this guy?
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: And I think Cass and Jade, who were with, they
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: were like, oh my they Cass is like a heart doctor,
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: Jade's a school teacher. Like they don't no offense, care
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: about like this stuff.
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: No, not at all, Like they're like, oh, it's so funny.
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: You guys are on TV.
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: They don't care about it's so cute.
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: So when I saw them fan like both of them
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: they're huge Dodgers fans, they were like, oh, oh my god,
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: oh we love you.
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: And I was a kid so much.
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: I was like, is that one of cass his friends?
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: Does he know this guy?
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: Like? And why is he acting so weird around him? Foster?
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: I was like, what's going on? And I think your
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: mom was like, you don't know who that is.
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: And I was like, no, Lisa, she wouldn't have known
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: who that was.
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: She definitely did.
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: She does now.
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: Well, he was the MVP of the entire series. I
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: mean he was hitting home runs each game.
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: He's hitting home runs on and off that field.
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: I saw his wife.
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: I think he has like three kids.
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: He does just as cute.
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: He was declining photos, which I told I felt bad.
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: Somebody ran up and was like can I love you?
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: Can we take and he was like, I'm just trying
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: to have a night with my kids. And I'm like
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: he would have to do that because if you said
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: yes to one, he was so packed it would have
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: been his whole night would have just been that.
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: And he was one day coming off one day of
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: winning the so they won the World Series, trigger treating.
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: The next day was the parade.
• 24:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he had to go home and go to bed
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: and wake up bright.
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: And early, and I'm sure that he had a drink.
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: But he was like with his family as they all
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: are on the bus during the parade, and he had
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: a yourbamate in his hand like he's like, full on.
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: Dad, is that how you say that?
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: What is it?
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: How do you say it? Your mate? You are from Ohio.
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: Also say Reese's peanut butter cups.
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: No, I don't like that from you.
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: Wait, how do you say Reese's and you want your
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: mate your maamte? Isn't that right? Producer John's it's your mate?
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: I have no idea.
• 24:51
  Speaker 4: He's over there shaking.
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: Hear somebody say a word for the first time, and
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: you're like, oh fuck, I've been saying, yeah, you.
• 24:59
  Speaker 4: Don't they have giant yellow vans.
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a kombucha or whatever.
• 25:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, I've.
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: Interesting only you though, Like you say, we're going to
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: Las Vegas.
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: And then when I asked you how Vegas?
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: Las Vegas?
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: Is that not? How you know?
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: I don't hear it? And then begel?
• 25:16
  Speaker 4: Everybody says, I say that weird, No, we'd we're having
• 25:18
  Speaker 4: words after.
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: This, how Jason, how Jason proposed? And she was like
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: he brought in a bunch of begels. I was like,
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: I have to stop. I will punch you in the
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: throat if you ever tell this story again and call
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: it a begel.
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: Let me tell you it is the it is ruined
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: by proposal story. Now when I try to tell people,
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: like what happened when Jason proposed, I say, in reality,
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: he went and got Hank's bagels, which our favorite?
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: Are you stually got Hanks? It's hangls?
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: Anyway, Hank's bagel.
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: Now, when I tell the story, I go, he went
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: and got breakfast, because every time I say it, people like, wait, wait,
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: he got what? And I'm like, fuck it, never mind,
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: I'm not gonna tell anybody.
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: Never mind bagelsaels, yeah, a little Ohio.
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: Maybe all start saying it that way.
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: I mean, I am.
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: Avoid the word now.
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: I'm glad because that's the whole reason why I wanted
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: you to say it properly, Because I'm like, no one's
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: gonna care about your gorgeous ring and the fact that
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: you're marrying that amazing man. Not only is your husband hot,
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: he's like the sweetest human on the planet.
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: It really is. I don't deserve him. People on mine
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: often are like, why is he with her? And I'm like,
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: I don't know, bitches either, Okay.
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: He must be done.
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: He's book smart, and.
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: Don't bring this up with him because I don't want
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: him to realize that he should be with someone better.
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: Right, maybe if they wrote a book about you, then
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: he would read it and be like, this seems like
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: a bad one.
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: You know what, it is the only reason he's with
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: the android.
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: Oh that's his one flo.
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: I'm like, you could have had like a brain surgeon
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: rich lady who was also a supermodel, but you texted
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: her and it was green and she ghosted you.
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: That's one hundred percent. We've actually spoken about that on
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: the podcast. I was like, Janet, divorce him the green messages.
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: He sucks up the whole group chat.
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: I know, but he's perfect in every other aspect of
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: life other than the green texting.
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: Well, by the way, I fully agree with you dismissal.
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: It's like he's a real freaking gem, and I'm so
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: happy for you guys. I want to know who wears
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: the pants in your guys' relationship.
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: Would you say on the surface me like on every day,
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: I'm like okay on the foundation Jason one thousand percent.
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: But a lot of people don't see that. I feel like,
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: and I feel like, especially when you watch us on
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: the Valley, you would probably be like, oh, Janet's run nightmare. Yeah,
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: the nightmare running stuff, bitchy like all of those things.
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: But like Jason lets me get away with a lot
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: of little things I will say, like I'll be like,
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: will you do this? And I am annoying in that sense.
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: When he comes to me and says like, hey, this
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: is how we're going to do things, I'm like one
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: hundred percent and I fully trust him and I let
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: him take the lead in that sense. So a lot
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: of the big decisions we make in life, a lot
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: of the everyday stuff I'm calling the shots on right,
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: big stuff. Jason calls the shots.
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: Okay, I think that's healthy. Yeah, very How do you feel,
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: like what's the game plan? I always wonder when people
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: are in partnerships, like how does the going out work?
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: Like how does it work where it's like I want
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: to have girls' night or he wants to have guy's night.
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: Is that like a big discussion. Is it a planned
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: thing where he's like, hey, in two weeks, i'm gonna
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: do this, put it on the calendar. What is it like?
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: I mean, we love our friends, we're both also such
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: homebodies now that it's we don't go out nearly as often.
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: So when one of us wants to do something, it's
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: normally like somebody's birthday or something that's you know, more fun,
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: or you know more important, and it's yeah, normally, hey,
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: we have a shared calendar, and it's like, hey, in
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: you know, next Thursday, do you have anything? I want
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: to do this with my friends. And I'm like next
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: Thursday and free, you go do that and I'll make
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: sure i'm home with the baby, especially if my mom's
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: not here. But yeah, as long as as long as
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: it works on the calendar, we both just yeah, let
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: each other do our thing. Because it's not like either
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: one of us are like going out, you know, even
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: like twice or three times a week unless there's no
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: a very good, strange reason, right, like you're filming a show, yeah,
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: or there's like three birthdays that week and it's all
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: you know, something like that. But like for the most part,
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: it's like, yeah, once a week probably he goes out
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: with his friends, once a week. I go out with mine.
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: We also love doing stuff together, so when my mom's here,
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: were like, ditch that baby, let's go do something.
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Like your foundation is you guys are obviously intimate
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: with each other, but I think the foundation has to
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: be you guys have to be best friends, because that's
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: what's going to keep I mean, listen to me I'm
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: talking like, I know relationships when I haven't had a
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: functioning one since I was like twelve seventeen. Really, but
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: when you guys are parenting because you're relatively new at motherhood, right.
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: Almost eleven months in so yeah, the.
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: First year, I still feel like I'm a new parent.
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: With Ocean, I'm like, what are we doing?
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: It's new every single day they start learning to do
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: stuff and you have to parent those things right.
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: And by the way, it doesn't get easier with a
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: second kid because it's like, well, you're not giving me
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: the same kid where I know what to expect, Like
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: I don't. It's a whole new the whole walks.
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: I had never thought actually going to fucking pop.
• 30:37
  Speaker 4: Huh.
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: I'd have never I'm like, okay, I know how to
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: do this phase.
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: You're right, what if the kids do?
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: Is there a different kid?
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: No, you feel hurt me. You feel more comfortable in
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: motherhood with the second, but it's still like, oh, this
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: is new. I don't really know what to do about
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: this type of stuff. Huh. You know I thought that,
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: so what would you say? The most challenging part of
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: becoming a mom has been.
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: Not letting guilt get to you. Okay, you have to
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: have balance, like going out once a week with your friends.
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: Do it if you have, you know, this time in
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: your schedule and it works with leaving your kids somewhere safe,
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: just go out. And then I would say like dividing
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: and conquering all the new to do list things, right,
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: Like there's all this new stuff that you have to do,
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: so like how to manage that effectively, like you know,
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: cleaning the bottles, Like who's going to do that?
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: Who?
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: And how are we managing? How are we doing all
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: this and getting it used to a whole new routine.
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: But I would say, like not letting the mom guilt
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: get to you is tough and it's a constant. Like
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: sometimes I'll be like I need an hour. He's napping.
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: I'm just gonna sit and like do something, and then
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: forty five minutes in, I'm like, why am I doing this?
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: I should be doing all this other stuff? So you
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: have to like find the balance of like give yourself
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: the hour and then get your shit done.
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: I feel bad for it, right. I always wonder if
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: that is something that women feel all over the world
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: or if it's an American thing where we have been
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: like shoved into these positions of like you can sleep
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: when you're dead. You know, I don't like you're you're
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: never doing enough.
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: You should be doing something.
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: If you have time to chill, then you have time
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: to do this.
• 32:26
  Speaker 4: And it's like, well, I kind of just want to chill,
• 32:28
  Speaker 4: though I lie to myself and just say it's my
• 32:29
  Speaker 4: launch break.
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: I like that, I'm on launch break whatever.
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: I like that.
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: It's also we're also seeing every other mom's highlight reel
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: on social media, so you look at everybody else's thing
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: and you're like, wow, she got so much shit done
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: in the day, and you have to remind yourself like
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: you're not seeing all the in between, you're not seeing
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: the downtime, You're not seeing all of that. But it's
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: really easy to compare, I feel like to other people.
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: My favorite mom content is when people are like, my
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: kid is fucking stupid and here's why yes today, yes, yes,
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: like or like admitting failure like I'm drowning today, what
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: do I do? And I'm like, thank.
• 33:04
  Speaker 4: God with me.
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: As much as I hate the term relatable queen, it's
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: like I really do love it and feel seen.
• 33:12
  Speaker 4: What do you do when you find an hour, Like,
• 33:15
  Speaker 4: what do you do for downtime?
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: For you?
• 33:17
  Speaker 4: Even at night? When something a bubble bath? What do
• 33:20
  Speaker 4: you do for you? Which?
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: I love a bath.
• 33:22
  Speaker 4: I love a bath. I love that you're busy as hell.
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: You deserve yes, And now half the time i'm when
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: I have a bath, it's with Cameron. So it's like
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: to be by myself in the bath.
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: Isn't it nice?
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: Nice? Honestly? Just sometimes I just like to mindlessly scroll
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: and like binge, watch Housewives, just kind of do something.
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: It just takes me out of life for a second
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: and I can just look at dumb shit.
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: I love that too. Yeah, like getting a good book.
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: But I will say I always go to Housewives. And
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: if I don't have a new one to watch, my
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: go to is watching og Roney because there's nothing better
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: an og Are you caught up?
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: I'm caught up on Orange County, love it, Salt Lake. Okay,
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: I need to binge Potomac, but I'm not.
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: There Yet's pretty good, Okay.
• 34:09
  Speaker 4: I love doing all of them.
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: And I just met Karen Huger the Grand Dam for
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: the first time. Where did you meet her?
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: She was at the direct TV party. Okay, let me
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: tell you I be lined to that woman and I
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: was like, I love you, I love you. She was
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: so fabulous. She was super sweet. She actually stoodn't talk
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: to me for like fifteen minutes. She was super nice.
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: She's like, oh, I have heard of your show. I'm like,
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: there's no way she's heard of our show, like mad
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: for sure, yeah, yeah, yeah, The Valley or whatever. But
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: she was like, she was so nice. I just it's
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: that's like, probably for me, one of the like the
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: most fun things is I've been a Bravo fan for
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: so long. Yeah, being a part of it and seeing
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: these people in the flesh and then being able to talk.
• 34:49
  Speaker 4: To them and just I don't know, on the same level.
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: It's yeah, I just party with them and chit chat.
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: It's just so fun to be able to be like,
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: I love you, girl, No, truly.
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: Like That's what's made it hard though, is especially doing
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: this podcast, because we do recaps and just like how
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: we feel, and I always feel like I have to
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: first state like I love all of them because I
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: know how the sausage is made totally, and just because
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: someone has like a bad a bad season or they
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: say something that maybe I'm like, er, it's like, that
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: doesn't really just embody who that person is, So let's
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: just stick to what was on TV. Yes, you know,
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: it's hard because I'm like, I know how the fans work,
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: and I'm like, someone's gonna listen to this, someone's gonna
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: cut it, someone's gonna send it. And I'm not in
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: the DM, so I don't know what anyone says about
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: me because I'm terrified of the DM. It's a scary,
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: hairy place.
• 35:40
  Speaker 4: Halloween every year round in.
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: There, year round it. No, that's what it's called.
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: I watched differently now too, when it's after you're on it,
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: You're like, that could be their the worst one thing
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: they said, you know, and for months and it's the
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: thing that people are gonna see the most. So I
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: give everybody a much bigger grain of salt after experiencing
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: it myself. Yes, I'd yell out my mom, I'm the
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: way over here. I was on the phone with my
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: mom and I was like, I'm going to law this podcast.
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: She's like, Oh, what do you guys have talk about.
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: I'm like, we're recapping stuff. My mom watches Orange County too,
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: and I was like, so I'll probably talk you know
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: some of the Housewives, some of this stuff because you
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: tell her that Alexis Blina needs to go. I do
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: not like her. That woman is just running her mouth everywhere.
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: And I go, mom, that's what people say about.
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: Me, because it's crazy when you can be like.
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: Running her mouth everywhere. I like, I run my mouth everywhere.
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: I'm like, Alexis Blino probably is a mom somewhere too.
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: That's like, my daughter is actually a very lovely, kind person,
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: just like you say.
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: You know what, though, I actually believe Alexis probably is
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: a very kind and lovely person. Let's jump into OC
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: because it was the finale. Yeah, let's jump right in,
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: bend right over. Tomorrow is the well, the first reunion.
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: I'm so feting excited. But Alexis, I think could be
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: a gem. But she's attached herself to this John Jay,
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: I am not a I only go off of my experiences, right,
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: so I can only look at someone and go, huh,
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: this reminds me of ABC and D. And because I'm
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: not an idiot, I know how the alphabet works. I
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: know that two plus two equals four. This guy's probably
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: a narcissist. I'm just gonna go with that. I'm really
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: worried about her, and the flashback scene of her talking
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: to Tamra being like, he's the one, He's so great,
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: and he like goes to the confessional and is like,
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: she's the one. I'm gonna there's no doubt in my mind.
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna be with her forever, and they like flash
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: back to him saying the same thing to Shannon.
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: It's a yike se.
• 37:39
  Speaker 4: It's a yike Well, Shannon. Her kind of remind me
• 37:43
  Speaker 4: of the same person, what Shannon if Shannon was younger.
• 37:47
  Speaker 4: I feel like that's just a Lexis, like he's attracted
• 37:50
  Speaker 4: to the same person. Looks wise, like they look similar
• 37:55
  Speaker 4: to me. I don't know if that's just me, but
• 37:57
  Speaker 4: like when I look at.
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: The man's perspective and he just looks nothing. Easan's like
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: she's blonde, the other one's blonde. Good bodies. They wear dresses.
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: Like Alexis Bilino. And I've gotten comments on my Instagram
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: being like you and Johnny j Are never going to work,
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: and I want to reply and be like.
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I want on the wrong page.
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: Hopefully it doesn't work with him because I'm married to
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: someone else.
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: You're like, oh no, do you think it won't work
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: out because I had a baby with another man and
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: marrying him behind Johnny Jay's back.
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: I have seen I did see Alexis and Johnny Jay
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: at the Direct TV and the US Weekly party together,
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: So they're making I've seen them make their rounds on
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: the red carpet too.
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: I didn't say hi to them.
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: Comes with a harder hit, keep going they I was.
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: I wasn't caught up yet when I ran into them,
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: so I was like, oh, I don't I don't know
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: what to say.
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: But what were they like? Were they camera hungry?
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: They were walking the carpet and doing everything. So but
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: there's there's shows airing right now, so it's that's what
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: they're supposed to do. But they for somebody who said
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: that he wasn't interested in that, let me tell you. You
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: can tell when people aren't interested and don't want to
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: do the things because they don't do the things. He
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: was definitely getting in the mix. It seems like he is.
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: He's got confessionals with Alexis. It's like beyond and he's
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: trying I'm really trying to clear my name. I'm like,
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: clear your name by going away, right. People continue to
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: talk about you because you keep appearing on our television
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: front body. Yeah, yes, and like it's very annoying that
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: you see Shannon who's obviously upset and she wants to
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: be done with you, right, but you continue to take
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: her into like this legal pit of hell and then
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: also show up in her place of work. You're a dog,
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: I agree, dog. I love when they flash to Ryan
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: and he's in that like pretty horrific suit ye, but
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: actually was tailored really well, so you weren't sure. You're like,
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: is it super bad or is it really fucking good?
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: I can't tell? But he got it on Amazon and
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: the theme was like tacky bridesmaids and another reason to
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: like really be annoyed at Alexa Alexis what's her name again,
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: Alexis Alexis Billino. She wasn't even in a tacky wedding dress.
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: Her hair was tacky as fuck.
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: You don't tell everybody to dress up taki or in
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: something bad, or it's like when you tell everybody like
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: come over, I'll be in sweats, and then you come
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: over in sweats and that person's all dressed up, You're like,
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: fuck you, fuck.
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: You, fuck you. Your karma is that you're uncomfortable and
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: I'm not right. So you may look good, but I'm
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: sure you feel good, but I feel good. And when
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: you get to your thirties, you just want to feel good.
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: When you feel good, you look good exactly. I'm worried
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: for jen because she's very sweet, and at the very
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: end of the episode, everything comes out that he's like
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: laundering money, right allegedly allegedly.
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: Do we think he's that dumb?
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: What do you mean? I think a lot of people
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: are that dumb.
• 40:59
  Speaker 4: I mean, are dumb and laundering money? Are you that
• 41:01
  Speaker 4: stupid to see what happened to Jenshaw and all of
• 41:05
  Speaker 4: that and then bring it to television?
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: Oh it's saying like, are you that dumb to go
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: on TV knowing you're doing something legal?
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: Like and then just saying yeah, I think could pick
• 41:14
  Speaker 3: me up.
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: Narcissists never think they're gonna get caught.
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: Thank you. I was sitting here and I'm like, I'm.
• 41:19
  Speaker 4: Not well, you hand to get caught when you blab
• 41:22
  Speaker 4: about it on a housewives, Like, if he wasn't under pressure,
• 41:25
  Speaker 4: you just did it to yourself.
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: But I think most narcissists feel like they're invincible.
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: They've gotten away with it for so long that it's
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: just like, yeah, you know what, I haven't had consequences
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: for my actions for the last twenty five years, and
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: I've been doing all this stuff to make all this
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: money or whatever. It is, like, why would you think
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: you're gonna get caught? You've gotten away with it for
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: so long.
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: Right, No, it's pretty wild. And what was the most
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: heartbreaking is Jen who's like older, older than us, asking
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: Gina after she's like, Gina says you, this is like
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: not good for you. You cannot marry him, Like he's not
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: good for you? And she goes, but what about him
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: isn't good for me?
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: Everything?
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: Oh god, it's really I mean, it's hard. It's honestly,
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: it's hard being in his relationship with a giant red flag.
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: It's also so hard watching your friends do that, especially
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: if they aren't seeing it.
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: Well because their hearts aren't involved and hers is. It
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: would be like the way, take the way you feel
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: about Jason and then take everything about Jason and what
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: he does for a living out of it. Just take
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: how you feel about him and add all the red flags.
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: Do you think you could see past them?
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: That would be tough. I mean now, like if I
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: was that, if we were engaged and I found out
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: that he was in some sort of shady business practice,
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: I would call it off.
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: You would have to. I don't know what she's doing.
• 42:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Like now I'm like, so now you get your
• 42:49
  Speaker 4: ducks in her own name and get the hell out.
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: But honestly, if he was doing something illegal now too,
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: or like allegedly whatever.
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: Word I have to say, this is all alleged allegedly, you.
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: Know, that would also be it's a betrayal of like
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: you were doing all of this, It's almost like cheating.
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: If he was running illegal or shady business practice behind
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: the scenes and was keeping that all secret from me, Like,
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: that's almost like an affair in my mind.
• 43:16
  Speaker 4: Well, how I feel like if he's gonna do all
• 43:19
  Speaker 4: that shady business, his whole life has become shad.
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: One hundred percent. I think so too. And I always
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: tell people like if, well, actually I learned this from someone.
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: There was like this guy and I cannot remember, but
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: he was a really good dude, and I believe he
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: was a lawyer. And he said not Jason, don't but
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: he said to me, I don't do deals. I've gone
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: out with men on business trips and they met and
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: they're messing around on their wives. He said, I immediately
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: put my guard up and do not work with them,
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: because if you could do that to your wife, what
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: the fuck could you do to me.
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: I've seen this clip before, and I toally agree. The
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: person you're sleeping every night, you're gonna lie to and
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: go to bed dirty and all that. Of course you're
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: gonna scam me for some cash. One hundred less to
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: lose there than there is in a marriage, So I
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: completely agree. I mean, I think the same thing when
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: I see people messing around and doing things.
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: I'm seeing parallel. So you're caught up on Salt Lake.
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: There's this new girl, Brittany, and she's kind of like
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: stolen the show with her relationship, and it's so strange
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: to me. I think it's because she's like technically dating
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: in Osmond, but it's so crazy to see these women
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: ignore all the red flags there. They're much not much,
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: but they're like in their late forties early fifties, much
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: older than the two of us, and I just can't
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: even imagine letting this shit fly, especially now that I
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: have two children. These women like this, Brittany is completely
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: up in the night.
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: It's wild. I mean, the guy is literally like, well,
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: I guess we just can't be together. Carry on, and
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: she's like like it's like he's literally telling you to
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: your face, I'm not promising you anything. I don't want anything.
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: We're friends, and she's like not moving on. I'm like,
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: get out of there.
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: She obviously I don't know if she practice Mormonism practices
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: Mormonism because Angie rolls up to her house this like
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: Mormon campfire is something that the Mormons do, and Angie
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: brings her wine. Oh yeah, and Brittany's like it is
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: so inappropriate and Angie's like, I've seen you drink wine
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: on multiple occasions. Like what's so inappropriate about it? So
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: I'm assuming that she.
• 45:33
  Speaker 3: Two fair has.
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: Sex, right, Yeah, she's not a true I think that's
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: what's fucking her up.
• 45:38
  Speaker 4: She's trying to be Mormon but not living a Mormon life.
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: Well, I think the guilt weighs heavy on her. But
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: I also think what's messing with her mind when this
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: guy who's like very handsome is telling her I cannot
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: be with you and give you what you want, but
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: he'll certainly throw the dick. She's confusing his words and
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: intimacy and Easton and I talked about this on a
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: Podcas asked a while ago that she because she was
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: in the Mormon Chirts church for so long, she doesn't
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: understand what a friend with benefits is. She's letting the
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: dick cloud her where she thinks intimacy is love Yep.
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: In Mormonism, you're supposed to wait till marriage.
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and she won.
• 46:15
  Speaker 4: And you're only supposed to make the man happy.
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: Doesn't butt stuff not count?
• 46:19
  Speaker 4: And you can marinate so shoving it in there and
• 46:21
  Speaker 4: just flirt away.
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: Was it you that just told me about marinating recently?
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: Because I had never heard this term. I think it
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: was at your house, so I was like, what what is.
• 46:29
  Speaker 3: This braggot soak?
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah? Oh. In her confessional, she talks about her mom's
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: relationship with her dad and it was a fairytale romance
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: they met and how long six.
• 46:44
  Speaker 4: Days they dated, got engaged, got married within what like
• 46:48
  Speaker 4: a couple of months I think, and then have been
• 46:50
  Speaker 4: married yeah.
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: Something fifty three years. And I'm like, Chase that my
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: love that's called Papa wanted to put his dick in
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: your mom.
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: Okay, except not the rule of like relationships. Most people
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: who probably get engaged after six days probably doesn't last.
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: I've only seen two other that I can recall, two
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: other cities where the men the husbands of the Housewives
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: have had scenes together. How do we feel like you're
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: on a show with dudes husbands? That's what the show
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: is based on, right, Housewives is about the chicks.
• 47:26
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: I have seen the men have their their little scenes
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: on og Beverly Hills, and I've seen it heavy on Jersey. Yeah, Jersey.
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: I was going to say that Jersey is heavy.
• 47:38
  Speaker 4: The dudes could have their own show on Jersey.
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: Right, So how do we feel about do you like
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: seeing husbands scenes? My favorite line was Justin, which is
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: Whitney Rose's husband, where Lisa Barlow's husband John reaches out
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: to Justin and says, you know, we should get together
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: and talk about what happened in Justin's I'm just going
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: to be straightforward and telling you know sounds good.
• 48:01
  Speaker 4: I'm like, yeah, be any more straightforward. Yeah.
• 48:06
  Speaker 3: They never talk to him again.
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: Do you like watching the husband scene?
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: I love it. I actually think it makes for some
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: of the best TV. I think some of my favorite
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: seasons are when the husbands get involved, and I do
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: think it's part of the reason that The Valley and
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: vander Pump are both heavily watched and very successful because
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: it adds a dynamic that you don't see. And there's
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: something about when something happens with Jason, I'm right there
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: with it, you know what I mean, And then it
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: kind of crosses over and you see this. It's just
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: a different dynamic. I think on Orange County, you know,
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: with Ryan jumping in and there's you know, and Tarma's
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: husband and him getting into it, it adds a whole
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: other level where I'm like, oh, this is good.
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: Like you feel like the stakes are higher, stakes.
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: Are higher, and you see a different you see that
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: person with their like mama bear energy. You know, it's like,
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: don't come after my husband or you know, don't come after.
• 49:02
  Speaker 4: I was just about to say half the fighting between
• 49:04
  Speaker 4: the dudes is because of the wives.
• 49:07
  Speaker 3: It's all because of the wives.
• 49:08
  Speaker 4: And they're like standing how I look did the Justin
• 49:11
  Speaker 4: fight with what John John? Yeah, is both of them
• 49:14
  Speaker 4: were just trying to stand up for their wives, not
• 49:17
  Speaker 4: knowing like take that out. They would have been just
• 49:20
  Speaker 4: standing having a drink together, not doing anything.
• 49:23
  Speaker 3: It's the wives.
• 49:23
  Speaker 4: They got them into it, and I like it because
• 49:26
  Speaker 4: it does make the stakes higher. And I love to
• 49:28
  Speaker 4: see these men acting cool and chill and all that,
• 49:31
  Speaker 4: and then when.
• 49:32
  Speaker 3: Shit hits the fan, you see that real person come out.
• 49:35
  Speaker 3: You're like, never seen that guy?
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and then you're about to squash.
• 49:40
  Speaker 4: Oh, shut because you're chilling. Now, I really get to
• 49:43
  Speaker 4: see you. Like, No, if the guys go like I've
• 49:46
  Speaker 4: seen and I was just about to see, I've seen
• 49:49
  Speaker 4: the producers and the cameraman and I really hit the van.
• 49:52
  Speaker 3: They're not keeping them back.
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: No, It's very like.
• 49:58
  Speaker 3: That's it.
• 49:58
  Speaker 4: They need those type of curity cards on your guys's shows.
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: No the men for real though, Yeah.
• 50:04
  Speaker 3: Because men that's the other thing.
• 50:05
  Speaker 4: Women will fight and baker and all that, but they'll
• 50:08
  Speaker 4: leave it.
• 50:09
  Speaker 3: Men.
• 50:10
  Speaker 4: You saw it with Justin kind of like, I don't
• 50:12
  Speaker 4: think he was angrily stepping at no.
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: No, No, What's John would have gone his ass beat?
• 50:18
  Speaker 3: Oh John?
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: John stepped in aggressively.
• 50:21
  Speaker 3: I would have been pissed off.
• 50:23
  Speaker 4: And I like Justin when he was like, I don't
• 50:25
  Speaker 4: think I owe them an apology right now. It's like
• 50:27
  Speaker 4: you owe justin one John, you just come in and
• 50:30
  Speaker 4: shove them, stay out of it. It's like, well, you're
• 50:32
  Speaker 4: kind of putting yourself into it. So instead of doing that,
• 50:35
  Speaker 4: how about you just grab me, like tap me and
• 50:37
  Speaker 4: just be like, come and talk to me.
• 50:38
  Speaker 3: Let's stay out of it.
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: Well and even say the fuck word he just said,
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: don't call my wife a fucking fucking don't see the
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: fuck word to my wife.
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: Oh, she came over your wife's fucking liar, wife's fucking liars.
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: I don't say my wife's a fucking liar. And then
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: she's like, you said the EF word.
• 50:53
  Speaker 4: I'm like, wait a second, don't come at me accusing
• 50:56
  Speaker 4: my wife of something, and I'm just a I'm that's.
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: What I So they had replay because there are times
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: where I go toes and I'm like you did this
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: and they're like, no, you did this, and I'm like,
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: I think that might be true.
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: That's one of the hardest things I think about being
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: on these shows, and maybe something that the audience doesn't realize.
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: It's like when something a heated moment happened, somebody says something,
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: then it sets and it sets everything off. You don't
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: you don't call producers the next day and say, hey,
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: go ahead and send me over that. I wish they
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: would send over the fodge, but like, you don't. You
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: can't watch it immediately, so then you're like, okay, this
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: is how I remember this, and you maybe sometimes go
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: too hard and like I'm right, you're wrong, and then
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: it airs six months, a year, whatever it is later
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: and you're like, oh shit, you I did start this
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: right whatever.
• 51:39
  Speaker 4: You blackout sometimes when you're like not drinking, but just
• 51:43
  Speaker 4: like the filming blackout, it's all black out here.
• 51:45
  Speaker 3: Sometimes my god, I.
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: Leave here and go what did we even talk about?
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: I normally remember roughly what I said season one because
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: I was pregnant and completely sober. Everybody called me the
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: next day and they're like, how did this happen? I'm like, well,
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: first you said this, then this person said this, then
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: this person stood up. Like the episode where we were
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: all at the Madre on having dinner and everyone got
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: into it in the hallway. It was like Jesse, Luke, Michelle, Okay,
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: everybody's yeah, screaming at each other that night, Everybody's like
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: how did we because it happened so fast? How did
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: we get here? And that was another one where like
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: producers ripping people apart and getting in the middle, and
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: you know it's not good when you see.
• 52:22
  Speaker 4: All the producers jumping in.
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's also an interesting position being when you're filming
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: with a partner, you want that partner to stick up
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: for you in certain stuff, but you also don't want
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: them to jump in too much.
• 52:34
  Speaker 4: It's like and become part of It's a tough thing. Yeah.
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: When Jason's you know, in something and something's going on
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: and he's you know, having heavy talk with somebody or
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: somebody says something to him, it is like a moment
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: where you really have to take a look at it
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: and say, do I jump in and defend him or
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: do I want him to jump in and defend me
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: right now? Or can I handle my own and do
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: I got this? And would I be like mad at
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: him if he jumps in, because you experience both. I've
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: had times where I'm like, where were you on that one? Jason? Yeah,
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: I'm like didn't you hear it? He's like huh what,
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: Like I'm like never mind. Or there's times where it's
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: like he jumps in and I'm like I'm like, I
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: got this you stay back there.
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: Yes, it's hard to.
• 53:12
  Speaker 4: Being a guy because if I was Jason and You're
• 53:14
  Speaker 4: gonna fight, I'm like, do I need to tap on?
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: Right? Walk a fine line?
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: I think as a duke, it's and it's a case
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: by case scenario of like, you.
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: Know, they also walk the line of if I jump in,
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: am I going to be looked at as someone who's aggressive?
• 53:28
  Speaker 4: Right?
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: I think it would be really hard to be a dude.
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: Like as a chick, we can kind of go toes
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: and do the whole damn thing. Whereas a dude, if
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: he inserts himself to protect his wife when it's girl
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: on girl crime, the other chick could easily say like, whoa,
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: you got a little aggressive, and immediately that label is
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: not great. It's a it's a very it's a trigger word.
• 53:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and once you're kind of labeled at that, you're
• 53:54
  Speaker 4: kind of stuck there.
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Oh my god, I know you wear it forever.
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: I mean, these Bravo fans, they do not let you
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: forget your past. No speaking of past.
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: It's almost like they have it on video.
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: It's almost like they could watch it anywhere. I was
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: watching Potomac and I've always told people do not sleep
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: on Potomac. Since season one, I was like, this is gold.
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: This season they have a not an entirely new cast,
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: but they let go of Robin Dixon and Candice Dillard.
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: I got nervous because I thought both of those women
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: were extremely like they needed them. They were heavy hitters
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: in the game. I was sad to see them go.
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: But they've replaced them with some even heavier hitters.
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: I'm excited.
• 54:38
  Speaker 3: No, it's good.
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: It's really good.
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: Okay, all right, you would tell me.
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: So rather than breaking it down, I'm going to ask
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: you guys how you feel about certain things. The first
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: one is they're they're celebrating Wendy's birthday and suddenly it
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: becomes like this whole conversation of people throwing shade. And
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: then it's immediately bringing up everyone's past and it's like, well,
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: you dated a drug dealer and she's like when, and
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: they're like the boyfriend before this, and it's like okay,
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: well you used to be a stripper, and I'm like okay.
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: This is where filming a show gets really, really sticky,
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: because it is all about bringing in new blood because
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: we number one, just need new faces, but we also
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: need other people to kind of take the punches. When
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: you signed on for The Valley, were you at all
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: nervous about things that you have done in your past
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: may come up or were you like, I'm not worried
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: about that. I'll talk about it if it's brought up.
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: And is it fair for people to hold you to
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: your past? Like this entire dinner was everyone holding each
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: other to their past?
• 55:54
  Speaker 2: I think it's one of those things. Kay, there's always
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: I feel like a thread in every cast or every
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: show where if you pull that thread, everything's gonna unwrap.
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: I actually feel like you saw it on Orange County recently,
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: between especially when you have close friends that are now
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: on the outs, when all when one secret comes out,
• 56:12
  Speaker 2: it's like, oh, you want to tell them that secret.
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: I feel like it happened on Orange County with Tamra
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: and Shannon. They both you know, or had each other's
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: backs for so long, so as soon as one of
• 56:21
  Speaker 2: them said, oh, well you did this, it was like
• 56:24
  Speaker 2: gloves off, gloves off. We're going back and forth, and
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: you have a lot of AMMO when you've been friends
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: with somebody for fifteen years like they have been.
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but what's wild is the receiving person is like,
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: can the both of you just shut the fuck up,
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: like the only person affected, you're trying to prove that
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: the other person shitty. You're both shitty breads, be quiet, right?
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: I totally agree. And on a personal level, you know,
• 56:43
  Speaker 2: when Jason and I before we agreed to have cameras
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: in our lives, we sat down and we went through
• 56:49
  Speaker 2: and we were like, what's the worst is what's the
• 56:51
  Speaker 2: worst stuff from our past that we think could come up?
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: Is there enemies or people we don't talk to, or
• 56:57
  Speaker 2: ex'es or anything that were afraid of and if there are,
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: let's talk it out now and then decide if we
• 57:03
  Speaker 2: want to be more public people or not. And I
• 57:06
  Speaker 2: think everything that we kind of discussed it was like, yep,
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: you know this might come up, like I've been married
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: and divorced, Like there could you know there could be
• 57:14
  Speaker 2: stuff there or you know, in past relationships. Sure nothing
• 57:19
  Speaker 2: though that I was like, we can't do this. I
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: think anything that you bring up from my past now
• 57:24
  Speaker 2: I could answer to and say like maybe not, you
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: know proudly. I wouldn't be like, yeah, I'm happy I
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: did this, but I don't. I'd be like yeah, I
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: fucked up back then. I shouldn't have done this thing,
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: and I've grown from it and here's how I've learned
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: or whatever. So I think you do before you, you know,
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: agree to be a public person, you do have to
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: backtrack and think, like, what's the worst thing I've ever
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: said or done that could be thrown in my face?
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: And how would I answer to it now? And I
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: just think as long as you're authentic and you are
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: okay with like, I think hiding thing is the worst
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: thing you can do.
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: Well it is, you know, from personal experience, Season five
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: was a nightmare and me hiding my relationship. Cut to
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: season seven where it comes out that I ate Ariana
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: out in the back of Sandoval's car, and it would
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: have been a huge thing, but because we just kind
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: of talked about it, it like lived for five seconds
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: and died. Like there's something And I think mia on
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: Potomac has conquered the art of like I was a stripper,
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: I fucked around on my husband while I you know,
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: during the time that my child was conceived and my
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: new boyfriend who I've been with on the side since
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: high school it may be his child, and everyone you
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: know is sitting there going like Wow, this is pretty wild.
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: But no one's sitting there being like yeah, talking about
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: it because she just lays it all out there, let's discuss.
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: But if it was somebody else uncovering it, like in
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: a scene without oh, then it's a big one person
• 58:51
  Speaker 2: spreads it, then it's a whole episode and potentially a
• 58:54
  Speaker 2: whole season talking about.
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: That, right. We also have on Potomac the Grand Dam
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: who was allegedly gotten a dui and not know that
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: she's got.
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: Okay, so she's got until after I posted with her and.
• 59:09
  Speaker 4: They did a whole list of her ticketing.
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: They did, and it was long.
• 59:14
  Speaker 3: It was a laundry list.
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: But I love The Grand Dom too, And in her interview,
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: please don't drink and dry, I do love the Granddam,
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: and it's we're now kind of seeing two shows run
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: parallel when it comes to like The Granddam Karen and
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: Shannon on oc and I think when you're a part
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: of a show where like you're able to drink and
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: many women do it and they're totally fine. Right, I'm
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: not naming any of these women alcoholics, but their cast
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: members are raising red flags about their drinking, and I
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: want to know, Janet, because I think about this all
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: the time. We're a part of shows where you're supposed
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: to live your authentic life and everything is out there
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: and let's mention it all. Well, do you think that
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: something like this someone's drinking problem or lack of should
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: be spoken about on camera or do you think that
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: conversations like that should take place on the off season
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: and then just spoken about, like what happened during that
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: time on camera.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: It depends. I would say, if the person while they're
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: filming is getting trashed or like, it's very obvious while
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 2: you're filming that this is a problem, and maybe even
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 2: it's if it built up from time you weren't filming,
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 2: but while you're filming you're noticing red flags with drinking,
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 2: then I think it's okay to say, hey, you did
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 2: this thing on camera? Hm, how can I not mention
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 2: that it's been an ongoing problem?
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: Okay? Well what about these women who they got into
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: accidents allegedly they got into accidents and then it's posted
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: about and it's all when cameras are down off season
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: and they're having to attend court at some point. Is
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: that fair game to talk about on camera? And say,
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: I think you have a drinking problem.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 2: I think it's fair to talk about it on camera
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 2: because it happened and it's news. So it's like, you know,
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 2: the audience that puts you on this show, they're seeing
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 2: these articles they wanted to drew about it. Yeah, so
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 2: I think it's it's also just totally how you address it.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 2: If if you take full accountability and you lay out
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 2: a plan of how you plan on changing, and your
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 2: behavior is aligned with that plan, then I think people
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 2: should give you a little bit of a break. But
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 2: if you're coming in and nothing seems to have changed,
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 2: you don't seem to have learned your lesson at all,
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  Speaker 2: and you're still heavily drinking, then I think your friends
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  Speaker 2: should be able to say, hey, this is worrisome. I
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  Speaker 2: think camera went hard, like I think.
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  Speaker 1: She always goes hard though. That's who she is. She's
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: she's got grit, and yeah, I relate to her because
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: I deliver you a package covered in shit. But if
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: you can dig real nice and deep, you'll find that
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  Speaker 1: my heart's in the right place.
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  Speaker 2: I think she's calling, you know out what she's seeing,
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  Speaker 2: and I think that that's also what you have to
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  Speaker 2: do when you're on a show, you can't just sit
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  Speaker 2: there and ignore everything. Otherwise it'd be the most boring
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 2: thing ever.
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  Speaker 4: As a viewer, you signed up for what you're doing.
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  Speaker 4: I want to see it all same I do tell you.
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 4: You guys are on this TV show to show it all,
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  Speaker 4: show me at all. You signed your life to it.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 4: You could have said no, show me everything, okay.
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  Speaker 2: I I think if you want to hide something from
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 2: the cameras, if you're having an affair, if you have
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 2: a drinking problem, if you have a skeleton in your
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 2: closet and you don't want it to come out during filming,
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 2: protect it, hide it, but don't do the thing like
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 2: if you like, you know, if I was having an
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 2: affair and I keep it completely quiet whatever and it
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 2: doesn't come out, fine, But if I'm telling my castmates
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 2: and friends about it off camera and saying like.
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: Hey, I'm then it's fair game. Then of course.
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  Speaker 2: They're going to bring it up. So that's one of
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 2: those things. If you want to hide something, keep it
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 2: like you hide it, but you can't expect your castmates
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 2: to hide stuff. If you're doing things off camera that
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 2: are sneaky.
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: Right, and like, don't hide skeletons in your closet, like
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: maybe sparing them in the backyard and then like dig
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: where you're going to have the foundation for a.
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 2: Pool, or open your closet, show everybody the skeleton, and
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 2: they will forget about it five minutes later.
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: If you're just like, yep, here it is right, Like,
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: did I really see that? I'm not quite sure. Would
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: she have put it on full display if it was
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: a big deal? Yeah? God, I love that you have
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: a soothing voice. Thank you. I love listening to you.
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: Thank you. At the end of each episode of the
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: Give Them Lalla podcast, we do an ache and relief
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: of the week Easton, would you like to start us off?
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 3: Oh? Fuck, my ache of the week?
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 4: Let's try to come up with one.
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  Speaker 3: Huh.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, do you want me to go first?
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 3: Go first?
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  Speaker 1: Okay. My ache and relief are one in the same.
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: We'll start off with my ache. My ache is that
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: my ride or die Jessica is no longer going to
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: be working for me and she will no longer be
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: on the podcast. My relief is that she is going
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: to go spread her wings. I fly and fly and
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 1: we wish her all the best. I love her more
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: than anything. And I'm so excited to see what she's
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: going to do in her future.
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 2: Me too.
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 3: It's bright, it's very bright future ahead of her.
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: Yes, what's yours?
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 4: T T?
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 3: I mean I think that's my ache.
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: Is it?
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just losing her. It was family.
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 4: But I want her to go and be successful in
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 4: all the things that she's wanting in life. And I'm
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 4: excited to see her shine and do all the things
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 4: that she's wanting to do.
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 1: Aimen to that.
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 4: So that is my ache is just restructuring the the life.
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 4: The life it so well. But yeah, that's the ache,
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 4: is just losing her. And then the relief is just
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 4: it's been life. Yeah, did you feel really good?
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah? I feel good. I've been.
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: Are we allowed to say it? What you're ninety days?
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 4: I mean that's the thing because they say they don't
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 4: want to bring it to television.
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: And shit, well I broke that a long time.
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 4: Well yeah, I'm ninety days sober to anyone who gives
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 4: a shit we a s Yeah. Yeah, it's like a
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 4: little pink cloud back.
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 3: I got a little chip. So it's like I got
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 3: my reward.
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, So now I feel good, Like my relief
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 4: is just I feel very good.
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: Good, no weed, He's just wow.
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 4: I'm sleeping amazing now, like I'm tired.
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: I would say it takes.
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 2: I was a huge stoner then quitting. I quit for
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 2: a while, and then I obviously had to quit when
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 2: I was pregnant breastfeeding all that. I feel like, ninety
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 2: days is the mark where it's out of your body.
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 2: That's how I feel, like, did you get the sweats
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 2: at first and stuff?
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 4: Yeah, like I was shaking, like at night, I was
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 4: like restless legs, Like I would just get up and
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 4: like walk around.
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 2: And ninety days, I feel like is when your system
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 2: like fully clears something. Yeah, shit, and you can feel
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 2: like like I normal again.
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Like I'm my body and mental is all one again.
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah like nothing, Yeah, like all my chakras are aligned.
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: Right, totally feel Yeah. Well, we're very proud of you, teach.
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: You're welcome, Janet. Do you have an ache and relief?
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 2: I will say, Okay, this weekend I had my Jason
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 2: was out of town, so my ache was like missing
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 2: him and like our chill weekend vibes. But my relief
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 2: was realizing that I can take care of my own
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 2: baby for seventy two hours without my mom, without Jason,
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 2: without Jared. It was just the two of us this weekend.
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 2: Jared's a big help in our.
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 4: Favorite even when he comes over, I'm like, yess.
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's so good with all the kids. Cameron. Jared's
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 2: number one favorite for Cameron. Right now, if I'm holding
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 2: Cameron and Jared walks in, he lunges out of my
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 2: arms into Jared's arms. So Jared's currently number one. Jared
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 2: I could tell. He's like, I'm sorry, and I'm like,
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 2: enjoy this. You're the chosen one.
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: I know, right, I'm not bothered by it.
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 2: You'd be number one. Yeah, fine, but yeah. We had
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 2: a whole weekend where I had nothing except for Cameron
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 2: and I and we stayed home all weekend and we
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 2: did a couple of things, but we, like, for the
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 2: most part, just chilled and I was like, Okay, I
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 2: was worried that this was gonna I was gonna be
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 2: exhausted and this was gonna be really hard, and I
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 2: did it.
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: You did it.
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 4: Yes, that's the hardest job.
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: It was tough, but I now know that you survived.
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: We're so happy for it. It is intimidating sometimes I
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: look at my kids, and I'm like, it's just you
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: and me.
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 3: What's it called.
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 4: They left and we had a night nurse coming.
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 3: Thank god. I had to stay with the baby.
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 4: For twenty minutes and it took fucking it felt like
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 4: four hours. Was staring at talk about you guys.
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 3: If this thing dies, I'm gonna die.
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: Oh my god. Lets on that note Easton. We'll have
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: you at it twenty minutes. Thank you guys so much
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: for listening to the Give Them La La podcast. Janet
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 1: having me, You're so welcome. We can't wait to have
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 1: you back on again.
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah wait, I would love to.
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 1: You're amazing and you guys are amazing. Remember that the
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 1: bonus episodes come out on Mondays. That video dropped same day,
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: and you can watch this episode on YouTube on Friday
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 1: at nine am Pacific time. I love you, bye.