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Speaker 1: It's the bulk reform It.
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Speaker 2: Tonight Matt Canavan and Paulin Hanson's attack on Muslims.
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Speaker 3: How can you tell me there are good Muslims?
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Speaker 2: Also tonight, Donald Trump orders the world's biggest aircraft carried
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Speaker 2: to sale to Iran, one of American stop generals. On
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Speaker 2: Trump's war plan and Labour's spin exposed. You got to
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Speaker 2: see this labor finance. Labour's finance mins are humiliated in
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Speaker 2: a Senate estimates grilling. But first, Angus Taylor this afternoon
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Speaker 2: put a rocket up the Liberal Party. The new opposition
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Speaker 2: leader picked a new team and it's one that puts
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Speaker 2: its best talent right on the front line. It is
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Speaker 2: a team of warriors and it's going to give the
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Speaker 2: albanis A government a real fight at last, back from
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Speaker 2: exile undercusion. The former leader Andrew Hasty in charge of
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Speaker 2: Industry and sovereign capability, just into Namper jimper Price in
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Speaker 2: charge of small business, and Sarah Henderson in charge of communications.
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Speaker 2: You know it's crazy that they weren't being used. And
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Speaker 2: they'll join another woman who's being who was demoted under
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Speaker 2: Susan Lee. New deputy leader, Jane Hume, who's now in
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Speaker 2: charge of employment and productivity. So really you can see
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Speaker 2: that Angustalor is picking good communicators and people with some
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Speaker 2: fight in them. The new Shadow Treasurer is yet another
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Speaker 2: person with punched through Tim Wilson.
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Speaker 4: I also want to start by acknowledging all of the
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Speaker 4: small businesses in Australia who are doing it so tough
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Speaker 4: right now. I see you, I hear you, and you
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Speaker 4: will be central to the policy platform that we will
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Speaker 4: be taking forward to make sure that we can energize
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Speaker 4: a future Australia where we back you one hundred percent.
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Speaker 2: Former Treasury Spokesman Tedor Brann's got a very nice constellation
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Speaker 2: price Foreign affairs also in the key Finance team is
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Speaker 2: clear Chandler now Finance spokesman. So far very good. It
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Speaker 2: is a sign of Taylor's determination to have the best
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Speaker 2: people in their best roles. That is actually given his
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Speaker 2: rival Andrew Hasty not just the Key portfolio but made
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Speaker 2: him as Deputy Leader in the House of Representatives. Now
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Speaker 2: this is clearly all about attack, attack, attack on the economy,
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Speaker 2: especially Tony Passon will be Shadow Minister for Government. Waste
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Speaker 2: has been promoted and accountability by the way, and he's
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Speaker 2: got plenty to work with now. The people dun't are
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Speaker 2: mostly ones you've really seen or heard from, like Faction
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Speaker 2: boss Alex Hawk and Paul Scarren, who he and Scott
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Speaker 2: book holds. I mean, this new team, though it is
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Speaker 2: not perfect. I get ask why Rustlin's there still and
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Speaker 2: still deputy leader in the Senate. Was it because the
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Speaker 2: liberal left still needed some big prizes. I mean, seriously,
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Speaker 2: if you pick people for their talent and fight, you
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Speaker 2: would give her job deputy to the Senate James Penisen.
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Speaker 2: In fact, they've give him the Senate leadership, but he's
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Speaker 2: been moved from finance to defense. By the way, other
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Speaker 2: new talent promoted Simon Kennedy and Zoe McKenzie. Again, this
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Speaker 2: is a thing all the way through people who'll take
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Speaker 2: the fight up to me, up to labor. These two
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Speaker 2: have already done in the media. Now they get the
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Speaker 2: chance in their new roles. And here's an interesting signal.
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Speaker 2: There's so much talent now in the Liberals business and
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Speaker 2: finance portfolios. Meanwhile, the environment portfolio is treated as a
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Speaker 2: part time job. The new shadow minister there is Andrew Bragg,
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Speaker 2: is also in charge of housing and homelessness. Now add
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Speaker 2: all this to Dan Tien's he's staying in Environment and reduction,
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Speaker 2: Joon o'dunneham in Home Affairs and immigration. I mean really
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Speaker 2: anger staters filled this front bench with warriors. This picked
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Speaker 2: people who should help him make good his promise to
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Speaker 2: focus on two things.
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Speaker 5: This is a team with two overriding priorities restore Australia's standard.
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Speaker 6: Of living and protect our way of life.
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Speaker 2: You know, it wasn't impressed by how Angus Taylor started
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Speaker 2: last week, but I tell it like it is. But
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Speaker 2: I am impressed with this. This is a team to
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Speaker 2: hold this terrible government to account now to Islam in Australia.
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Speaker 2: Now three most popular parties were all today in strife,
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Speaker 2: all trying to deal with this massive challenge. Labor, the
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Speaker 2: liberals in one nation, all under pressure, believe it or not.
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Speaker 2: Now the immediate issue is the attempt that we learned
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Speaker 2: about over by thirty four women and children, families of
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Speaker 2: the so called Isis brides so return to Australia from
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Speaker 2: refugee camps in Syria. Now they got into three buses
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Speaker 2: provided by Australian helpers to go to the capital of Damascus.
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Speaker 2: But the Isis brides and the children were then turned
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Speaker 2: back for now by local authorities. They said they hadn't
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Speaker 2: gone through the proper processes or not yet. Now. These
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Speaker 2: women were among some two hundred and fifty Muslim Australians
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Speaker 2: who went to Syria against government device and against the law,
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Speaker 2: to join the Islamic State terrorist group which was beheading
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Speaker 2: even journalists you might recall and enslaving and raping your
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Speaker 2: Zdi women. Their children have grown up among people telling
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Speaker 2: them to kill unbelievers. So the Prime Minister today was
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Speaker 2: talking tough. He wouldn't be helping them all come home,
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Speaker 2: but he wouldn't say if it'd banned them.
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Speaker 7: So my mother would say, you make your bed, you
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Speaker 7: lie in it. Not repatrioting these people, How.
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Speaker 8: Are you seek to stop them from coming to Australia.
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Speaker 7: Well, we're not repatrioting them.
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Speaker 9: We will use, for example, the opposition's suggestion of a
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Speaker 9: tup exclusion order.
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Speaker 7: Well, what we will do on national security issues as
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Speaker 7: we deal with it appropriately upon a bus.
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Speaker 2: But how true is all that? You know? Oh, we're
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Speaker 2: not helping at all. The government is believed to have
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Speaker 2: issued passports to the thirty four or possibly just thirty two,
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Speaker 2: despite we just heard two might be temporarily banned under
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Speaker 2: exclusion protection orders. Now the Governor argues that under our
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Speaker 2: laws it has to give passports to Australian citizens asking
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Speaker 2: for them. But is that really the extent of the
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Speaker 2: government's help now? The Nightly Today reports that the passports
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Speaker 2: are believed to be with a formerist Friend of the
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Speaker 2: Year is named by the Australian newspaper Jamal riffe a
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Speaker 2: doctor who's staff say, well, you know he's overseas. It's
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Speaker 2: seen in Syria now. Jamal Riffi is a strong supporter
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Speaker 2: of and fundraiser for Home Affairs and Immigration Minister Tony Burke.
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Speaker 2: Riffy was actually at the launch of the Friends of
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Speaker 2: Burke movement along with former New Southwest Premier Bob Carr.
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Speaker 2: Jamal Riffi last June met Burke as well with two
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Speaker 2: other campaigners for the ISIS brides and their children, and
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Speaker 2: Bert told this Department no taker at that meeting to
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Speaker 2: leave the room, reportedly to allow him to speak freely,
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Speaker 2: and Department notes nevertheless do record him promising to help
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Speaker 2: the Isis brides after they return after was underlined other
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Speaker 2: notes from another meeting report Burker's making a comment to
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Speaker 2: find a way, find a way to what bet I repeat,
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Speaker 2: The government's sisters has not helped the Isis brides in
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Speaker 2: their attempt to come home. And they are honorable men,
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Speaker 2: They are all honorable men. Yes, it's odd, isn't it
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Speaker 2: to think of Jamal Riffi around Syria with thirty four
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Speaker 2: Australian passports. If reports are rape, do governments really hand
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Speaker 2: them out like that? En Mass? You know, job lot
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Speaker 2: to go between. Well, the Opposition to Home Affairs spokesman
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Speaker 2: wasn't buying that. John o'dunneam demanded the government ban the
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Speaker 2: families and explain its involvement in their pending return.
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Speaker 10: And it is this government's job to make sure that
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Speaker 10: they don't allow this sort of risk to come to
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Speaker 10: our shaws and impact on security of Australian citizens. What's more,
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Speaker 10: this idea that the government have no idea what's going
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Speaker 10: on does not pass the pub test. We know that
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Speaker 10: last year and the year before, secret meetings were held
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Speaker 10: with third parties who were looking at helping these so
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Speaker 10: called Arsis brides, people who are attached to the Arsis
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Speaker 10: Caliphate coming to come back to Australia. People like doctor
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Speaker 10: Jamal Riffi, it's been reported today, has been fundraising to
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Speaker 10: help these people come back to Australia. As reported in
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Speaker 10: the Nightly. This is a very concerning development when, of
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Speaker 10: course doctor Jamal Riffi is also the head of the
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Speaker 10: group called Friends of Burke, an organization set up to
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Speaker 10: fundraise and support the re election of Tony Burke. The
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Speaker 10: Home Affairs Minister will be deciding on these cases.
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Speaker 2: Yes, well, that's labor. But the Liberals today are also
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Speaker 2: divided and in confusion, largely because of an active bassardary
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Speaker 2: someone in the Liberal Party releasing theft immigration policy on
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Speaker 2: Muslim immigrants on the isis Brad's most including Angus Taylor,
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Speaker 2: the leaders seem agreed they must not come. But on
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Speaker 2: what they do beyond that to limited immigration from some
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Speaker 2: Muslim countries or territories, the Liberals are all over the shop.
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Speaker 2: As a reported last night, Scone used to select the
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Speaker 2: draft immigration policy proposing just to spend immigration from regions
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Speaker 2: or countries or territories dominated by Muslim extremists, so in
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Speaker 2: name thirteen countries in particular Palestine, Egypt, Lebanon, Afghanistan and
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Speaker 2: a number of others. But more pushback to that idea
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Speaker 2: in this leaked proposal from liberal MPs, most of the left,
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Speaker 2: including the immigration spokesman, saying I didn't see it. But
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Speaker 2: then Immigration spokesman, I didn't see it. I don't agree
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Speaker 2: with it. Are there saying oh, I've never seen it.
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Speaker 2: It's too unfair, it's too trump like, it's too much
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Speaker 2: like One Nation. Even John o'duniams against it. Now I
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Speaker 2: counted at least eight liberals so far publicly against it,
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Speaker 2: and Angustalor doesn't much like it either.
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Speaker 5: Well, that document, which I haven't actually seen, has no validity,
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Speaker 5: as I understand. Well, I know it didn't go through
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Speaker 5: a shadow cabinet or the leadership, and as I understand it,
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Speaker 5: it wasn't seen by the relevant immigration shadow is. So
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Speaker 5: I don't know the motive that the people have been
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Speaker 5: handing these documents around. I haven't seen them.
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Speaker 11: What I do know, ssumably the motivation is to damage.
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Speaker 4: You and way.
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Speaker 5: Well, look, you know, politics has all sorts of natives,
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Speaker 5: and I'm not going to comment on those because I
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Speaker 5: don't know.
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Speaker 2: So some of that are party still playing funny buggers,
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Speaker 2: and there's a little bit of disunity still there. But
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Speaker 2: One Nation too it's a third party that's talked itself
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Speaker 2: into strife on this issue. Leader Pauline Hanson last night
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Speaker 2: and SKA and New suggested it or seem to there
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Speaker 2: are no good Muslims, which is clearly false, clearly inflammatory,
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Speaker 2: and clearly offensive.
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Speaker 3: I've got no time for the radical Islam. Their religion
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Speaker 3: concerns me because what it says in the Qur'an we
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Speaker 3: are they hate Westerners and that's what it's all about.
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Speaker 3: You know, you say, oh, well, there's good Muslims out there. Well,
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Speaker 3: I'm sorry, how can you tell me there are good
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Speaker 3: Muslims well?
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Speaker 2: Cue the criticism, which forced Hanson to defend herself. She
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Speaker 2: today refused to back down, though refused to apologize the
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Speaker 2: section has been taken out of context. She posted her
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Speaker 2: complete exchange with Sharing Marks and last night Sharry had
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Speaker 2: confronted her on this and saying what she meant to say.
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Speaker 2: The fact is we have to ban the importation of
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Speaker 2: radical Islam that hates Western society. Fetting the people coming
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Speaker 2: to the country from terrorists hotspots is almost impossible when
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Speaker 2: they subscribe to an ideology the encourages lying to non believers.
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Speaker 2: That's a slight exaggeration about that ideology is But nevertheless
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Speaker 2: I think I know what she meant though, that the
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Speaker 2: teachings of the Qur'an include things that I consider a
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Speaker 2: threat to a liberal, multicultural democracy like ours. But one
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Speaker 2: nation is pushing very hard right now, excited by its
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Speaker 2: whole success, and I think here it's pushing far too hard.
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Speaker 2: So we have a problem. It's bigger than the Isis Brides,
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Speaker 2: and none of the big parties can deal with it
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Speaker 2: honestly or without losing their heads. We're in trouble, I'm afraid.
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Speaker 2: Is Tuesday, Regular National Senator Matt Canavan, the former Resources
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Speaker 2: Minister Mat Kenavan, thank you so much for joining me
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Speaker 2: from your climate change road show. You're global warming, tell
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Speaker 2: them the fact show the arcist bride. Let them come
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Speaker 2: home or keep them out.
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Speaker 12: They should definitely stay out, Andrew. If we don't know
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Speaker 12: who these people are, and that's the stated position of
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Speaker 12: the government, at least they're saying that they've got nothing
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Speaker 12: to do with these people.
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Speaker 13: They don't know who.
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Speaker 12: They are, they haven't met with them, they're not cooperating
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Speaker 12: with them. Well, if that's the case, if the government
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Speaker 12: is completely ignorant about the background of these people. Given that,
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Speaker 12: by definition they've had an association with the most extreme
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Speaker 12: radical terrorist organization in the world, they should not be
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Speaker 12: coming back to Australia. I have every confidence they could
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Speaker 12: exclude these people from coming to our shores given the
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Speaker 12: way they're trying to come here. The fact the government
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Speaker 12: won't do that belies the fact they are not tough.
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Speaker 13: On our borders.
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Speaker 12: They're not the kind of government we need right now
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Speaker 12: secure the safety of Australians.
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Speaker 13: And it possibly, possibly actually.
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Speaker 12: Means they are cooperating with this return of isis brides,
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Speaker 12: because we've seen the statements that government officials have said,
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Speaker 12: government ministers have said in the past have not proven
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Speaker 12: to be true. They were actually meeting and coordinating with
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Speaker 12: groups that were helping this contingent of isis brides, and
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Speaker 12: that is just totally inimickel in amickel to our national
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Speaker 12: security and safety. The government should just keep these isis brides.
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Speaker 2: Out, so where would they live instead?
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Speaker 12: Well, look, I do there is one thing I do
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Speaker 12: agree with the Prime Minister on today, and he said
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Speaker 12: they made their bed. They need to line it now.
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Speaker 12: If they do want to return to Australia, they need
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Speaker 12: to go through the proper channels. They need to put
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Speaker 12: an application in, the government needs to vet those people.
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Speaker 12: Not this sort of arrive on our shores out of
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Speaker 12: nowhere and the government.
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Speaker 13: Plays a conscious pilot role of washing hands and we
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Speaker 13: don't have any to do with it.
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Speaker 12: I'm sorry. That's not how arrivals to our country should be. Yes,
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Speaker 12: it's true that if you're an Australian citizen you have
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Speaker 12: a right to come back to this country.
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Speaker 13: But it's still not true that you just get to
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Speaker 13: turn up.
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Speaker 12: You need to get a proper approval process to do that.
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Speaker 12: That's not what's happening here, at least what we've been told.
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Speaker 12: As I say, the government says that they don't know
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Speaker 12: about this, they're not cooperating with this. So in that case,
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Speaker 12: if there are ignorance about these people, they should not
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Speaker 12: be allowed.
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Speaker 2: In now Pauline Hanson last night said, and I quote,
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Speaker 2: you say there's great Muslims out there. Well, I'm sorry,
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Speaker 2: how can you tell me there are good Muslims? End quote?
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Speaker 2: Your response?
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Speaker 12: Look like many times, Andrew, Pauline just goes too far.
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Speaker 12: And I think it's statements like this, it's ill disciplined
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Speaker 12: like this, which to me indicate that Pauline is not
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Speaker 12: ready to be a prime minister or in charge somehow
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Speaker 12: of our country. She's effectively running for prime minister. Now
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Speaker 12: she's opened herself up for that, well, she should be
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Speaker 12: subject to the same scrutiny as anyone else running for
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Speaker 12: that position. Her statement is clearly inflammatory and wrong. I
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Speaker 12: mean we only have to look at Armored l Hmord
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Speaker 12: just a few months ago, a great Muslim Australian hero,
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Speaker 12: an Australian hero who saved many lives in Bondai by
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Speaker 12: putting his own life at risk confronting those terrible terrorists.
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Speaker 12: So her statement is wrong. She should correct it. She
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Speaker 12: hasn't today. She hasn't repeated it quite because I think
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Speaker 12: she knows it's wrong but doesn't repeat it. But as
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Speaker 12: I say, you just can't go around saying things like
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Speaker 12: this if you want to be a serious leader in Australia.
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Speaker 12: And look, I know a lot of people are putting
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Speaker 12: hope in one nation, but Andrew, I really worry that
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Speaker 12: in a glare of an election campaign where Pauline potentially
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Speaker 12: we have to be on the debate stage up against
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Speaker 12: the Prime Minister, subject to lots of scrutiny, she would
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Speaker 12: wilt and that would just mean that Anthony Obannez would
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Speaker 12: be easily re elected.
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Speaker 2: Well, I did think her comment was terrible, basically, very
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Speaker 2: undisciplined and nasty. Really, I'm sure she misspoke, but you
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Speaker 2: can't misspeak like that, and I didn't hear it. Sorry
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Speaker 2: today correctly, now, I was struck by your yep, well,
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Speaker 2: I think so too. I think so too. As I said,
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Speaker 2: you know, I'm interrupting you in a busy a tour
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Speaker 2: that you're doing of you know, to give the people
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Speaker 2: the facts of global warming. I've struck, particularly by your
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Speaker 2: column this week saying that zero policies are going to
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Speaker 2: take over some of our food producing farms. Tell us
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Speaker 2: about that.
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Speaker 12: Yeah, I'll be going through that tonight. I'm on a
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Speaker 12: dump ned zero road show, Andrew. We need to get
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Speaker 12: the message out here to people. What's actually going on,
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Speaker 12: and what's happened in the last week is the government
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Speaker 12: has issued a report, an official report which shows that
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Speaker 12: eighteen million hectares of Australian farmingland would need to be converted.
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Speaker 13: To carbon credit production.
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Speaker 12: So we don't produce food, we don't produce fiber, we
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Speaker 12: produce carbon credits and They produce nothing really for our economy,
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Speaker 12: but they just cost us jobs, rural activity shut things down.
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Speaker 13: This is something that's an inconvenient truth that.
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Speaker 12: The government has not been upfront with is trained people
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Speaker 12: in its plans for net zero by twenty.
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Speaker 2: Fifty Mcanavan people wonder how this labor government could promise
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Speaker 2: that its net zero schemes would save US two hundred
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Speaker 2: and seventy five dollars each on electricity bills but actually
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Speaker 2: then costs us much much more as everyone knows. The answer,
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Speaker 2: I think is that no labor MPs in Canberra have
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Speaker 2: a studied engineering and b will listen. You listen here
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Speaker 2: to labour Senator Michelle and Rajo get strappy in cented
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Speaker 2: estimates when Jared Holland at the Page Research Center trying
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Speaker 2: to explain to her how our power system really works.
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Speaker 2: Listen to this.
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Speaker 14: The coffie powerstations in this country are still making money
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Speaker 14: because we've squashed out in the middle and essentially what's
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Speaker 14: happened is we plummet.
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Speaker 8: They're costing us money because they keep breaking down. Then
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Speaker 8: we're having to use gas or something expensive to kind
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Speaker 8: of back up energy.
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Speaker 13: That's costing a lot of price volatility.
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Speaker 14: The volatility is the fact the sun goes down every
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Speaker 14: day at about the same time and there.
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Speaker 8: Is a shagy. It's called batteries. That Australians of embraced.
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Speaker 14: Senator can explain that a system is very different to
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Speaker 14: a market. So the way a market works is it's
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Speaker 14: not just the cost of generating the electricity that feeds
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Speaker 14: into the price, it's also the demand for that electricity
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Speaker 14: and its availability. So what happens is when the sun
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Speaker 14: goes down and you have that huge reduction of electricity
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Speaker 14: from the grid, it goes down at the same time
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Speaker 14: that everyone comes home from work, they turn on their TV,
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Speaker 14: they put on their washing machine, they put in their microwave.
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Speaker 14: You still have that increased, if anything, a spike in demand.
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Speaker 14: Now that power has to come from somewhere. Now, if
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Speaker 14: I've got a battery that only operates for half an
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Speaker 14: hour an hour a day and it's cost me tens
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Speaker 14: of millions of dollars in order to produce, I have
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Speaker 14: to make back the costs of my capital expenditure in
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Speaker 14: that very compressed window. And because there isn't any other
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Speaker 14: electricity in the market, I can charge whatever I want. Now,
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Speaker 14: battery set the price over twenty three percent of the
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Speaker 14: time last year despite producing less than two percent of
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Speaker 14: the electricity in the market. So introducing these technologies that
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Speaker 14: only operate in tiny weeny increments does not suppress prices.
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Speaker 13: It creates the volume to disagree on this one.
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Speaker 2: Matt Kenevan, I know you've been saying this sort of thing.
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Speaker 2: You've probably been saying it in this road show of
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Speaker 2: yours beautiful cold splaining. Though the thing here is when
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Speaker 2: it's actually told right to a labor senator, she doesn't
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Speaker 2: want to hear it.
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Speaker 12: Look, that is perhaps the biggest problem we've got in
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Speaker 12: this debate, that those that are set in their ways
20:51
Speaker 12: that renewable energy is going to lower prices simply don't
20:55
Speaker 12: want to hear a different view, simply don't even want to.
20:57
Speaker 13: Engage in the debate.
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Speaker 12: Now we can see we just have to look out
21:02
Speaker 12: the window now and see that the weather man's telling
21:05
Speaker 12: us it's going to be fine and sunny.
21:06
Speaker 13: But actually is raining.
21:08
Speaker 12: Our bills are going up, not going down like they promised.
21:10
Speaker 13: Us to do it.
21:11
Speaker 12: They would now they don't have a good explanation. You
21:13
Speaker 12: can see that whenever they're challenge they really, really struggle
21:17
Speaker 12: to combat these things. What that inquiry, what you just
21:21
Speaker 12: played that extract there is from the Senate inquiry in
21:23
Speaker 12: the misinformation, I've been spending two days on that, and
21:27
Speaker 12: so their response, rather than debating someone like Jared Holland
21:30
Speaker 12: is to accuse him and others. Myself, I just engaged
21:34
Speaker 12: in misinformation and try and censor us, in shadow banners
21:37
Speaker 12: and shut us down. That to me shows how weak
21:41
Speaker 12: they are in this debate. It's why we must not
21:43
Speaker 12: be intimidated. That's why I'm out here in Serena tonight
21:46
Speaker 12: getting together people saying, Hey, do you want to get
21:48
Speaker 12: our country's competitiveness back, do you want to bring our
21:50
Speaker 12: power prices back to where they should be some of
21:52
Speaker 12: the lowest in the world, or we need to change
21:54
Speaker 12: But to get there, we need to actually change what
21:56
Speaker 12: we're doing, because what we're doing right now is clearly
21:58
Speaker 12: not working. To doing more of this is kind of insane.
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Speaker 2: Mccanavan, all strength to your right arm in this struggle.
22:07
Speaker 2: Good on your thanks for coming on the show again.
22:15
Speaker 2: After the rag, Donald Trump sends the world's biggest aircraft
22:18
Speaker 2: carrier to Iran as the US prepares for a war
22:22
Speaker 2: to change the Middle East. We've got another insight this
22:28
Speaker 2: week into the evil of Vladimir Putin, into the murderous
22:32
Speaker 2: tyranny he's imposed on Russian and has for four years
22:35
Speaker 2: try also imposed by war on Ukraine. The security services
22:40
Speaker 2: of Britain, France, Germany, Sweden and the Netherlands have now
22:43
Speaker 2: concluded that Putin's assassins killed Russian opposition leader Alexey Navalni
22:49
Speaker 2: two years ago in a remote Siberian prison camp. They
22:52
Speaker 2: tried before to poison Avalni with novechok nerve agent, but
22:57
Speaker 2: German doctors just managed to save Navali and then bravely
23:01
Speaker 2: returned to Moscow, where he was immediately arrested and Russia
23:05
Speaker 2: claimed he then died in prison of high blood pressure.
23:09
Speaker 2: But these five European intelligence services say body sample show
23:14
Speaker 2: he actually died from the tocsin from the skin of
23:17
Speaker 2: the Ecudorian dart frog, obviously not found in Russia.
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Speaker 15: Only the Russian regime had the motive, the means and
23:27
Speaker 15: the opportunity to administer this lethal poison while he was
23:31
Speaker 15: in prison in Russia. They wanted to silence him because
23:35
Speaker 15: he was a critic of their regime, and that's why
23:39
Speaker 15: we have exposed this Bob Barrick Kremlin plot to do
23:44
Speaker 15: so and made sure that we have done so with
23:47
Speaker 15: evidence as well.
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Speaker 2: So every time you see some leaders shake the hand
23:53
Speaker 2: of Letdimir Putin, know that they shake the bloody hand
23:57
Speaker 2: of a murderer. But about that war in Ukraine, Joining
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Speaker 2: me is Bolt Report Regular General Jack Kean, a former
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Speaker 2: Vice Chief of Staff in the United States Army and
24:07
Speaker 2: a four star general. He's now chairman of Institute for
24:10
Speaker 2: the Study of War and a confidante of President Trump.
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Speaker 2: General Keen, it's always great to see you. Next Tuesday,
24:19
Speaker 2: it's going to be four years since Russia launched his
24:22
Speaker 2: full scale invasion of Ukraine. It seemed then, as you know,
24:25
Speaker 2: that the war would be over in a week, Russia
24:28
Speaker 2: would have its victory parade four years later. What has
24:32
Speaker 2: Russia achieved.
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Speaker 7: Not very much, certainly nothing in comparison to what their
24:39
Speaker 7: objectives were. Certainly they were targeting literally on Kiev and
24:45
Speaker 7: top of that government and put it on a stuage
24:47
Speaker 7: government was what they're objective. And you're absolutely right. Their
24:51
Speaker 7: generals told them that it would just take a few
24:52
Speaker 7: weeks to do that. The Ukrainian people would likely surrender
24:56
Speaker 7: almost when the Russian troops approached Bosi. And quite the
25:01
Speaker 7: contrary here, the Ukrainians have been absolutely steadfast that people
25:07
Speaker 7: have supported them. And here they are four years into
25:10
Speaker 7: this war and Russia is largely stalemated in terms of
25:15
Speaker 7: its offensive operation. I mean, they have a false narrative
25:18
Speaker 7: that they're overrunning the Ukraine positions. They have twenty percent
25:23
Speaker 7: of the territory when they first started the invasion in
25:26
Speaker 7: the first several weeks, they actually had something close to
25:29
Speaker 7: twenty four to twenty five and Ukraine took back some
25:32
Speaker 7: gains that they had made, and by and large, for
25:35
Speaker 7: the remaining years, the only increase in the last two
25:38
Speaker 7: and a half years by Russia has been a one
25:41
Speaker 7: percent increase in territory. And what is absolutely so frustrating
25:49
Speaker 7: here we have been in negotiations with the Russians now
25:53
Speaker 7: for a full year with the Trump administration, and Zelenski
25:57
Speaker 7: has made all sorts of concessions. He wanted to go
26:00
Speaker 7: to immediate cease fire with no conditions, and Russia said no.
26:06
Speaker 7: He's been willing to make compromises on the land and
26:10
Speaker 7: certainly some compromises even dealing with security guarantees, and Russia,
26:15
Speaker 7: by and large has not made a single concession that
26:19
Speaker 7: I'm aware of coming from mister Putin his emissaries in
26:23
Speaker 7: talking to our negotiators. They talk friendly, they talk nice,
26:26
Speaker 7: they make promises, but promises are not kept. And here
26:30
Speaker 7: we are, thirteen months of negotiations, and we really don't
26:34
Speaker 7: have anything to show for it.
26:37
Speaker 2: Donald Trump, he's sending a second aircraft carrier to Iran,
26:41
Speaker 2: the world's biggest, the most advanced aircraft carrier. At the
26:45
Speaker 2: same time, the US and Iranian negotiators, as you know, General,
26:48
Speaker 2: they're in Switzerland right now, supposedly working on an agreement,
26:52
Speaker 2: a sort of peace deal, an agreement on Iran's nuclear
26:56
Speaker 2: weapons program. Here is President Trump about the aircraft carrier,
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Speaker 2: second year craft carrier.
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Speaker 16: That he decided to say, talk about why you need
27:05
Speaker 16: that slight?
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Speaker 13: Well, in case we don't make a deal, we'll need it. Hey,
27:09
Speaker 13: we don't have a deal, we'll need it. Do we
27:11
Speaker 13: have a deal?
27:11
Speaker 2: We couldn't depress got it.
27:13
Speaker 13: It'll be leaving.
27:15
Speaker 2: To me. General, Iran is not going to give up
27:18
Speaker 2: its nuclear weapons. It will not be any real sustainable
27:23
Speaker 2: peace deal. Is the US actually just buying time for
27:27
Speaker 2: all his forces to be in place for a strike.
27:31
Speaker 7: I do think President Trump in earnest is trying to
27:35
Speaker 7: make a nuclear deal. It is a pattern of behavior
27:37
Speaker 7: that he has displayed. He tried to do this prior
27:41
Speaker 7: to the Twelve Day War. He gave a run sixty
27:43
Speaker 7: days to make a deal. On the sixty first day,
27:47
Speaker 7: Israel attacked Iran, and obviously the United States destroyed their
27:53
Speaker 7: nuclear enterprise as it existed at the time and brought
27:57
Speaker 7: the war to termination. And then in Venezuela he offered
28:00
Speaker 7: many times, I think three or four Madura an exit
28:05
Speaker 7: out of there, an airplane, in immunity from prosecution, a
28:10
Speaker 7: reasonable country of his choice, and he refused all of
28:13
Speaker 7: those overtures, and we saw what happened. We conducted a
28:16
Speaker 7: military operation indeed, capture him and bring him to justice.
28:21
Speaker 7: I believe the path that we're really on here. I
28:25
Speaker 7: agree with you. I don't see Iran making a deal.
28:27
Speaker 7: After all. President Trump, I think, knows what a good
28:30
Speaker 7: deal it is. He's the one that terminated the US
28:33
Speaker 7: participation in the nuclear deal that Obama put together in
28:36
Speaker 7: twenty fifteen, and in twenty eighteen, Trump rejected that and
28:41
Speaker 7: pulled out of it. And the basic reason is because
28:44
Speaker 7: in fifteen years. In other words, in twenty thirty, Iran
28:48
Speaker 7: had no restrictions on it in the development of nuclear weapons,
28:52
Speaker 7: regardless of the numbers of weapons, which was an absurdity
28:56
Speaker 7: in of itself, because the purpose of the deal was
28:59
Speaker 7: to pivot the manufacture of nuclear weapons. So here we
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Speaker 7: are again, and listen, when we're talking about this nuclear
29:06
Speaker 7: let's put some facts on the ground. Iran doesn't have
29:10
Speaker 7: a nuclear program right now or a nuclear enterprise. It
29:14
Speaker 7: has been destroyed. They will have to recover it. And
29:17
Speaker 7: we're talking about something in the future, not something that's now.
29:21
Speaker 7: And I believe me, I think we know where they
29:24
Speaker 7: fully intend to begin that recovery, and once that starts,
29:28
Speaker 7: it's likely that Israel would take it down pretty quickly.
29:32
Speaker 7: If they needed help, we would participate in it, and
29:35
Speaker 7: also in the deal. If we're not talking about ballistic missiles,
29:39
Speaker 7: which is Iran's only conventional capability of any consequence, huge
29:43
Speaker 7: amount of ballistic medium range, ballistic missiles, rockets, short range,
29:48
Speaker 7: and certainly probably hundreds, if not thousands, of drones. If
29:52
Speaker 7: the ballistic missiles aren't on a table, then we should
29:55
Speaker 7: pull out of the negotiation and just literally walk away.
29:58
Speaker 7: I really think the preferred option and the most likely option,
30:02
Speaker 7: is to combine Israel and the United States attack to
30:07
Speaker 7: clearly do a number of things. One the setic conditions
30:11
Speaker 7: for regime collapse. Leadership targets the entire infrastructure that sustains
30:18
Speaker 7: this regime, the IRGC, the police force itself, the Basle militia,
30:24
Speaker 7: the defense industrial base, and yes, simultaneously take down air
30:29
Speaker 7: defense systems and the ballistic medium range missiles, drones and rockets.
30:35
Speaker 7: A comprehensive attack that the regime will not be able
30:39
Speaker 7: to recover from and they will be on a pathway
30:43
Speaker 7: for its collapse. I think that is the preferred option,
30:47
Speaker 7: and as I indicated it, I believe that's the one
30:50
Speaker 7: we will likely execute.
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Speaker 2: General King, thank you so much, indeed your insights really appreciated.
31:00
Speaker 7: Very talking Andrew as always, well.
31:04
Speaker 2: You heard it here first after the break talking about
31:07
Speaker 2: immigration controls and Australia thrown out of the US after
31:11
Speaker 2: trying to see if pop star Billie Eilish lives like
31:14
Speaker 2: she preached at the Grammys.
31:17
Speaker 8: No one is illegal on stolen land.
31:26
Speaker 2: Yes, talking about immigration bands Donald Trump's America last weekend
31:31
Speaker 2: refuse entry to Australian Freedom activist Drew Pavlou sent him home.
31:37
Speaker 2: Now this story starts with singer Billie Eilish getting all
31:40
Speaker 2: political the Grammy Awards. As I showed you a couple
31:42
Speaker 2: of weeks ago.
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Speaker 8: No one is illegal on stolen land.
31:50
Speaker 2: No one's illegal on stolen land. Will Pavlou, and normally
31:53
Speaker 2: post about Chinese communist suppression, posted this exciting news. I've
31:57
Speaker 2: decided to move into Billy Eilish just six million dollars
32:00
Speaker 2: beachfront mansion, because no human being is illegal on stolen land.
32:05
Speaker 2: For Pevlu's mockery is sure backfire. Joining me is Drew Pevlu.
32:11
Speaker 2: Drew Pevlu, thank you so much for your time. So
32:13
Speaker 2: you land at Los Angeles Airport.
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Speaker 9: Then what I was immediately taken away to the immigration
32:21
Speaker 9: area and they'd begun my interview. They wanted to know
32:25
Speaker 9: about my relationship with Billie Eilish and what I planned
32:28
Speaker 9: to do. I tried to say that I was just joking,
32:31
Speaker 9: I didn't actually mean to try to move into her house.
32:34
Speaker 9: And I was taken away for thirty hours in immigration
32:38
Speaker 9: custody before they put me on a flight back to Australia.
32:42
Speaker 9: They had guys with guns escort me back onto the flight.
32:44
Speaker 9: I thought it was a bit much. I was trying
32:48
Speaker 9: to explain the whole time. It was a joke.
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Speaker 1: I never meant to actually try to go to her house.
32:53
Speaker 2: I was.
32:53
Speaker 9: I was in discussions with a Native American professional dance
32:56
Speaker 9: trio and we were going to do a special dance
32:59
Speaker 9: at a park nearby in Hollywood. That was my plan,
33:03
Speaker 9: but unfortunately it was not to be. I was. I
33:07
Speaker 9: was illegal on stolen land. Unfortunately, unlike Billie Eilish's claim
33:12
Speaker 9: that no one could be illegal on solid land.
33:17
Speaker 2: You were. You proved it wrong. But Drew, how did
33:22
Speaker 2: they come to know that you were coming? What was
33:24
Speaker 2: it about you that made them think all lower lower low?
33:29
Speaker 1: Look?
33:29
Speaker 9: I'm not sure exactly, mate, but I I was told
33:34
Speaker 9: that they had access to my entire social.
33:36
Speaker 1: Media and knew everything I was planning to do.
33:39
Speaker 9: I think there's a strong likelihood that potentially Billie Eilish's
33:42
Speaker 9: lawyers contacted them. They had an entire doss on me,
33:46
Speaker 9: and they were asking me to detail my entire history
33:48
Speaker 9: as an activists, as the Chinese commuist Putty. They were
33:50
Speaker 9: asking me to detail the time in twenty twenty two
33:54
Speaker 9: when I got arrested in London because the Chinese government
33:57
Speaker 9: basically sed it swortted me with like a fake threat
34:00
Speaker 9: my name, and I was really I was really shocked
34:03
Speaker 9: by that they wanted to know my entire history as
34:05
Speaker 9: an activist against the Chinese government. They were saying they
34:07
Speaker 9: wanted me to confirm that I had never plotted to
34:10
Speaker 9: blow up Chinese facilities.
34:12
Speaker 1: I was completely shocked. I was like, what the hell
34:14
Speaker 1: are you guys talking about.
34:16
Speaker 9: They literally were asking me if I had plotted to
34:18
Speaker 9: assassinate Chinese officials, and I was like completely shocked. I
34:22
Speaker 9: literally had no idea what they're talking about, because obviously
34:24
Speaker 9: I've only ever been a peaceful activist.
34:28
Speaker 2: In fact, for me, the most disturbing thing about all
34:31
Speaker 2: this is that that false annegation the Chinese made about
34:34
Speaker 2: you in London, accusing you of making a bomb threat
34:38
Speaker 2: and everything else that that is still on the files.
34:43
Speaker 2: It's a way of making of them making your travel
34:46
Speaker 2: in other countries like America more difficult.
34:49
Speaker 1: Exactly, it's so unfair.
34:51
Speaker 9: As you would know, Andrew, back in twenty twenty two,
34:54
Speaker 9: I was basically targeted with a malicious fake threat by
34:57
Speaker 9: the Chinese government. The Chinese ambassador in Australia literally gloated
35:00
Speaker 9: about it on television at the time, basically laughing that
35:03
Speaker 9: I've been arrested. I've been targeted for many years because
35:06
Speaker 9: of my activism against Chinese government.
35:08
Speaker 1: Is Stralian Federal Police literally called me in in twenty
35:10
Speaker 1: twenty three to.
35:11
Speaker 9: Reveal to reveal that they had basically raided people in
35:16
Speaker 9: Australia who are potentially working for China to find my
35:18
Speaker 9: dress and violently harmed me. That was actually confirmed by
35:21
Speaker 9: the Australian Federal Police Chief, Chrissy Barrett.
35:25
Speaker 1: Might have pushed her name, but she confirmed.
35:27
Speaker 9: That to Senator James Patterson in senate estimates that the
35:30
Speaker 9: Australian Federal Police had actually raided guys potentially linked to
35:34
Speaker 9: the Chinese government who were trying to find my dress
35:36
Speaker 9: here in Australia and violently harmed me. So I've been
35:38
Speaker 9: sort of targeted for years because of my activism against
35:40
Speaker 9: the Chinese government, and it's very sad that potentially what
35:43
Speaker 9: has happened here is that like Billie Eilish's lawyers basically
35:47
Speaker 9: exploited the fact that I was the victim of transnational
35:50
Speaker 9: repression by the Chinese government to try and have me
35:53
Speaker 9: locked up, and it was a terrible attack on my
35:56
Speaker 9: free speech rights as an Australian tourists. You know, the
36:00
Speaker 9: First Amendment is supposed to apply to everybody, and I
36:02
Speaker 9: literally never did a single thing illegal. I was just
36:05
Speaker 9: basically joking online about her own statement, which is that
36:08
Speaker 9: nobody is illegal installed land.
36:12
Speaker 2: But in the end, Drew it seems that what you
36:14
Speaker 2: did was draw attention to the visa that you'd come
36:18
Speaker 2: into America with, and they said, ah, it's the wrong one,
36:22
Speaker 2: and then they threw you out. So you've got to
36:25
Speaker 2: reapply for a business visa instead of I presume you
36:28
Speaker 2: asked for a tourist one.
36:30
Speaker 9: Yes, look, I am very lucky that I'm not permanently
36:34
Speaker 9: banned from the United States.
36:35
Speaker 1: That's what I was really worried about. When they TOMU
36:39
Speaker 1: lead the country, they told me that I had not
36:41
Speaker 1: been banned. But I am a little bit worried.
36:43
Speaker 9: I'm concerned that potentially, if it's left at a low
36:46
Speaker 9: level in the bureaucracy, potentially I could be just barred
36:50
Speaker 9: for life, maybe just if struck against my name. So
36:53
Speaker 9: I really hope that there is somehow a way that
36:55
Speaker 9: I can talk to somebody at the US government or
36:58
Speaker 9: the embassy in Australia or something like that to explain that.
37:01
Speaker 1: I am literally a peaceful Australian.
37:03
Speaker 9: I'm a big supporter of the US Alliance. I love America.
37:05
Speaker 9: I literally just wanted to go there as a tourist
37:07
Speaker 9: and film some YouTube videos. I don't want to do
37:10
Speaker 9: anything illegue, and I think it's a shame. I'm a
37:13
Speaker 9: huge supporter of the US. I love the train US Alliance,
37:16
Speaker 9: and I love America, of course, and I still respect
37:18
Speaker 9: their border integrity, I respect their system of laws.
37:23
Speaker 1: I'm a big lover of America. I just want to
37:24
Speaker 1: go there as a tourist. That's all.
37:28
Speaker 2: Well, Billy Eilish just been spared the nuisance of you
37:31
Speaker 2: holding a dance with the tribal elders down the street
37:36
Speaker 2: from her, so she can risk easily now, Drew Pevley,
37:40
Speaker 2: thank you so much for your time.
37:42
Speaker 9: Thank you, Andrew, thank you.
37:44
Speaker 1: No one is only go on sould Land.
37:47
Speaker 2: After the break. It's almost mean to do this. The
37:50
Speaker 2: humiliation of financements that Katie Gallaher has Labour's spin on
37:54
Speaker 2: savings get some spun. I've got to show you a
38:02
Speaker 2: brilliant takedown of labor spin because I'm sure you wonder
38:06
Speaker 2: how this outBut is the government still gets away with
38:08
Speaker 2: wrecking our standard living Inflation up again, interest rates up,
38:11
Speaker 2: spending up, debt hitting a trillion dollars, your living standards falling,
38:15
Speaker 2: yet maybe still lives in the polls. Well one day,
38:20
Speaker 2: one way that labor gets away with this, This this
38:23
Speaker 2: world class spin. It's brilliant spin, like this claim made
38:26
Speaker 2: repeatedly by the treasure and the Finance Minister that far
38:30
Speaker 2: from causing inflation with their massive spending, they're actually saving
38:35
Speaker 2: you billions. Found one hundred and fourteen billion dollars in savings.
38:40
Speaker 16: We found one hundred and fourteen billion dollars in savings
38:43
Speaker 16: across a number of our budgets.
38:45
Speaker 5: We've now found one hundred and fourteen billion dollars in
38:49
Speaker 5: savings over our seven budgets and budget updates.
38:53
Speaker 16: We've found one hundred and fourteen billion dollars in savings.
38:55
Speaker 8: I know it rolls off the tongue.
39:00
Speaker 2: Saved US one hundred and fourteen billion dollars, But you
39:04
Speaker 2: checked the bunch of papers. How come then spending didn't
39:08
Speaker 2: go down by one hundred and fourteen billion, but up
39:10
Speaker 2: by almost by exactly the same amount. Well that breaks
39:14
Speaker 2: the spinner's now been masterfully unspun by the opposition. Is
39:18
Speaker 2: James Patterson when he questioned the finance Minster has said
39:21
Speaker 2: at estimates watch in marvel at Katie Gallaha is our
39:26
Speaker 2: finance minister?
39:28
Speaker 8: Well, I just don't have that figure.
39:31
Speaker 6: You said there's been one hundred and fourteen billion dollars
39:34
Speaker 6: of savings across your budgets. Is that net savings or
39:37
Speaker 6: gross savings?
39:42
Speaker 16: Well, it's savings and reprioritizing, so we're saving and then
39:46
Speaker 16: real essentially to offset new priorities.
39:51
Speaker 6: So you're saying that's nets of spending decisions you you
39:55
Speaker 6: reduced expendsits of one hundred and fourteen billion.
40:00
Speaker 8: It's a gross figure.
40:02
Speaker 13: It's gross, right.
40:03
Speaker 6: What is the net figure?
40:05
Speaker 8: I don't have that available.
40:08
Speaker 6: Is it positive or negative?
40:10
Speaker 8: Well, I just don't have that figure in front of me.
40:17
Speaker 6: Has the savings you've made been greater than or less
40:20
Speaker 6: than the new spending that you've initiated.
40:26
Speaker 16: It is one hundred and fourteen billion dollars in savings
40:30
Speaker 16: and reprioritizations.
40:32
Speaker 6: But if you spend every dollar that you've saved, it's
40:35
Speaker 6: not a save, is it. It's just spending it on
40:37
Speaker 6: something else.
40:38
Speaker 8: Well, you know that can be the way you.
40:40
Speaker 6: Twist it when you say on radios you did last week,
40:43
Speaker 6: we've found one hundred and fourteen billion dollars in savings
40:46
Speaker 6: across a number of budgets. I think the public will
40:48
Speaker 6: think that means you've saved one hundred and fourteen billion dollars.
40:51
Speaker 6: But if you've gone and spent that and some more,
40:54
Speaker 6: you haven't saved one hundred billion dollars.
40:56
Speaker 1: We have.
40:57
Speaker 6: How have you saved it if you've gone and spent it?
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Speaker 2: Honestly, joining me at Louis Robert Skyne has contributed immediately
41:06
Speaker 2: through research fellow at the Institute of Public Affairs MIA.
41:10
Speaker 2: It is astonishing to see how long gallaher and chant
41:15
Speaker 2: and got away with that calm that somehow saved this
41:17
Speaker 2: one hundred and fourteen billion dollars.
41:20
Speaker 17: Yeah, it really is quite astonishing. I mean, the attitude
41:24
Speaker 17: for her to turn up to this inquiry, this and
41:26
Speaker 17: he hearings and to not have the answers, to not
41:28
Speaker 17: know the difference between net savings and gross savings. To me,
41:31
Speaker 17: it's really just extraordinary. But it shows the kind of
41:33
Speaker 17: contempt that leads labor ministers display for processes. It's just
41:38
Speaker 17: quite extraordinary.
41:39
Speaker 13: But it is honestly just laughable.
41:41
Speaker 17: This is a senior leader of our country and she's
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Speaker 17: completely laughing in the face of Australians who are hurting
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Speaker 17: more than ever right now. Cost of living is out
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Speaker 17: of control, Federal spending is about to reach its highest
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Speaker 17: level per per capita in over forty years, of course
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Speaker 17: excluding the pandemic years. And have a finance minister not
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Speaker 17: know the answers to these questions and to claim one
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Speaker 17: hundred and fourteen billion dollars in savings is just quite
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Speaker 17: extraordinary to me.
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Speaker 2: Well, you know, there is when she says she saved it,
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Speaker 2: but she's actually spent exactly that sort of money, And
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Speaker 2: then when she's actually asked, she's got no idea of
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Speaker 2: what she has spent. Really, I got to ask, have
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Speaker 2: you seen a worse and more tricksy finance minister than
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Speaker 2: Katie Gallaha?
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Speaker 13: Well, curly, she.
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Speaker 18: Hasn't read any of the messages or memos that she's
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Speaker 18: apparently been prepared by her team. And I noticed when
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Speaker 18: I was watching that footage that her team didn't exactly
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Speaker 18: rush to Baylor out did that. After a while, they
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Speaker 18: eventually fed her some answers, while James Patterson was absolutely,
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Speaker 18: as you say, expertly skewing her, making a squirm. And
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Speaker 18: I mean, the average Australian is not watching Senate Committee
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Speaker 18: you know footage as we are, or reading budget papers,
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Speaker 18: but they're listening to this thinking Hang on a minute.
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Speaker 18: You're saying you saved one hundred and fourteen billion dollars,
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Speaker 18: So why don't things feel cheaper to me? Why am
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Speaker 18: I still being crushed by cost of living? Why is
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Speaker 18: my tax up while my energy bills up? And why
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Speaker 18: are you being so evasive rather than being straight with me?
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Speaker 18: Because just because you move money around doesn't mean you've
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Speaker 18: saved it. I mean the average person who can cause
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Speaker 18: budget and manage their household budget clearly the Finance Minister
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Speaker 18: can't do that, and it's appalling.
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Speaker 2: Now Labor is actually brilliant at spin. I want to
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Speaker 2: give you another example of a report last week told
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Speaker 2: this corrupt union officials and organized crime gags had ripped
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Speaker 2: off fifteen billion dollars from the Victorian government's big build project,
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Speaker 2: you know, roads tunnels, Yet the government effectively turned a
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Speaker 2: blind eye. Now we now learn the primileges into Allen
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Speaker 2: has been in charge of Victoria's major project for years,
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Speaker 2: off the state's corruption body to investigate after newspaper reports
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Speaker 2: had blown the whistle already, but as it only to
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Speaker 2: investigate things she should have known, it didn't have the
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Speaker 2: power to actually check. Look nowt Alan spin today. I
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Speaker 2: have noted that she often puts on a fake smile
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Speaker 2: in times of trouble to signal, oh no, all is
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Speaker 2: well and positive and suddenly shining instead of everything being
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Speaker 2: stinking and gross incompetence.
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Speaker 11: Have look, that is a matter that needs to be
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Speaker 11: referred to the party. I note that the party's secretary
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Speaker 11: has said that those matters that were from some years
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Speaker 11: ago were lawful and appropriately declared at the time.
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Speaker 2: Oh that's a brushing off reports to the companies involved
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Speaker 2: in this corruption then donated to Alan's labor parties. So
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Speaker 2: we didn't get a smirk there unfortunately. But tell me Mia,
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Speaker 2: how can Alan get away with all this this stuff
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Speaker 2: of corruption that they turned a blind eye to and
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Speaker 2: then they get money from companies that are up to
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Speaker 2: the next in the corruption and just smile and wave
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Speaker 2: it away. Smile and wave boys, how does it happen.
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Speaker 17: Well, she thinks she to smile through it, because the
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Speaker 17: Labor Party here in Victoria basically has for the past decade.
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Speaker 1: Now.
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Speaker 17: There has been some suspicion now for a while that
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Speaker 17: there has been some corrupt dealings, especially with the CFMU,
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Speaker 17: but none of those claims have really been able to
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Speaker 17: stick because we haven't had any hard evidence.
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Speaker 13: Well now we do.
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Speaker 17: I seriously think this is going to be a really
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Speaker 17: big turning point here in Victoria for the Labor government
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Speaker 17: because now people know that we have concrete evidence that
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Speaker 17: these dealings have been going on, and I think it
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Speaker 17: is far worse than people actually expected it to be.
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Speaker 17: I mean, fifteen billion dollars, You've got to be kidding me.
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Speaker 17: And for Jacinta Allen just to try and smile it
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Speaker 17: away whilst we's been putting this money in the back
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Speaker 17: pockets of criminals is just extraordinary.
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Speaker 2: Yet, look, it is just incredible. We're talking about a
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Speaker 2: government that this is a she was actually in charge
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Speaker 2: of the Commonwealth GAMESPID that was then canceled or we
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Speaker 2: can't do it. They lost nearly billion dollars. I mean,
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Speaker 2: how is this governing? Louise? You explain here she is
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Speaker 2: you know, this is smile that she does. She says, oh, look,
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Speaker 2: you know I didn't do the reports. Look, look a smile.
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Speaker 2: It's incredible, as if nothing is wrong. I mean, Louise,
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Speaker 2: it blows my mind that she can do this and
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Speaker 2: it seems to work.
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Speaker 13: I reckon.
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Speaker 18: She's smiling because they're absolutely terrified of the union muscle,
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Speaker 18: aren't they. They can't push back on the CMFO you
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Speaker 18: because they're worried about government products grinding.
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Speaker 13: To a holt.
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Speaker 18: And meanwhile, we have this sort of good fella's style
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Speaker 18: script operating on all these building sites across Melbourne and
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Speaker 18: Victoria where they're bringing in strippers and they're running drug
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Speaker 18: rings apparently, and there's corruption and there's you know, violence
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Speaker 18: and all sorts of things. And yet she's smiling, saying
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Speaker 18: nothing to see here, which is the default position of
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Speaker 18: someone who won't take accountability for what's going on. As
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Speaker 18: you say, she was Minister in charge of the Comonwealth
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Speaker 18: Games budget, my god, and you know, minister in charge
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Speaker 18: when Dan and Andrews sort of dreamt up this fantastic project.
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Speaker 18: So she's just like Dan Andrews too.
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Speaker 2: Point over here in my book, absolutely honestly reminds me
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Speaker 2: of job Bioki Peterson in Queensland just telling the media
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Speaker 2: don't you worry about that? There was this famous sketchphrase,
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Speaker 2: don't you worry about that? Plenty to worry about mia
47:15
Speaker 2: the reshuffle reshuffle, it's a complete new look of the
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Speaker 2: opposition under Angus Taylor. I thought it looked like a
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Speaker 2: real fighting unit. I think a lot of Liberal support
47:27
Speaker 2: has to be very glad to see what it's done there.
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Speaker 17: Yeah, it certainly does look like a promising team and
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Speaker 17: I think it is an exciting time for the Liberal
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Speaker 17: Party that we might finally, you know, put all this
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Speaker 17: infighting behind us and move forward and actually start holding
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Speaker 17: the government to account. I mean, we're seeing James Patterson
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Speaker 17: do a fantastic job at that with the Finance Minister,
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Speaker 17: but the Labor Party has been getting away with this
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Speaker 17: every single day. The arrogance of the Labor Party, it's
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Speaker 17: just hard to fathom. So we need a coalition and
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Speaker 17: a Liberal Party who are locked in and are ready
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Speaker 17: to hold this government to account because at the end
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Speaker 17: of the day, it is Australians who are suffering the most,
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Speaker 17: and it is Australians who really need that accountability.
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Speaker 2: It was interested you mentioned James Patterson. There was also
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Speaker 2: Tim Wilson, a big promotion to treasurer too, alumni from
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Speaker 2: your Institute of Public Affairs, mentored by John Roscomb, who
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Speaker 2: I think should have been drafted into liberal politics years ago.
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Speaker 2: But a real credit to the IPA and MIA gives
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Speaker 2: you a little hope too about your brilliant future. MEA Schliff,
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Speaker 2: the Luis Robins, thank you very much to you both.
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Speaker 2: That's it for me. Coming up next is the great
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Speaker 2: Sherrie Markson. For me, it is good night