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4 Perpective Shifts To Elevate Your Mental Game · Total Barnage

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SPEAKER_02: Hello guys and welcome back to another episode of Total Barnage.
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SPEAKER_02: Today I am joined with Charlie.
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SPEAKER_02: And Charlie, what are we talking about today?
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SPEAKER_00: Today, well, you know, I always keep I'm really forcing the issue with this journal right here.
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SPEAKER_00: Um I thought today, I was sitting on the bike this morning um in what has become a very hot and sweaty warehouse at we were at Foundry.
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SPEAKER_00: But it's now called Which is now called uh destination or something?
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SPEAKER_02: No definition.
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SPEAKER_02: Definition.
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SPEAKER_00: I keep thinking demolition, but definition gym.
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SPEAKER_00: They've had a rebrand.
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SPEAKER_02: What's the tea with that?
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SPEAKER_02: Is it the whole of foundry rebranded to that?
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SPEAKER_00: Or they were basically in a franchise and I was chatting to the guy that owns the spot, yeah.
0:42
SPEAKER_00: Uh, and he just said that there just wasn't a kind of uh a singular, you know, motive.
0:48
SPEAKER_00: They weren't really aligned.
0:49
SPEAKER_02: Um so we thought sack this off.
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SPEAKER_00: Well, the main thing was like their gyms were the other gyms were based in the Midlands.
0:56
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: And in the Midlands, you've got quite a few like unis.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: And all of the adverts and all of the sales and whatever, like the offers were like come back to uni.
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SPEAKER_00: And obviously in Tumbridge, the like that's not gonna work because there are no universities in Tunbridge.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so it's flip-flopped.
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SPEAKER_00: So it's instead of you know them saying, Oh, here's a come back to uni offer, it's like, no, we need a you know, Easter holidays offer.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so it just wasn't aligned, and so they've done a big old rebrand.
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SPEAKER_00: But the bike is is very close to the roof and it's right by um the little window light, yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: The window light, and so I was very sweaty today.
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SPEAKER_00: But I was thinking on the bike as I normally do.
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SPEAKER_02: Bob think on the bike sometimes.
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SPEAKER_02: Think bike, these thoughts sticker, yeah.
1:43
SPEAKER_00: Saves lives, saves lives.
1:45
SPEAKER_00: Um but today I was like, we keep kind of banging on um about the mindset, and especially when I'm chatting with Guy who is still in Mongolia at the moment.
1:54
SPEAKER_00: Um hopefully he's alive.
1:56
SPEAKER_00: Hopefully he's alive.
1:57
SPEAKER_00: I think he is.
1:58
SPEAKER_00: His Instagram's active, yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: So one one can hope.
2:01
SPEAKER_00: Um if not we can take over this place, it's alright.
2:04
SPEAKER_01: Oh yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: It's alright, you won't listen, you won't listen to these.
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SPEAKER_00: Um if you do, Guy, hi.
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SPEAKER_02: Hi Guy.
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SPEAKER_00: But I thought, you know, we kind of talk always about mindset and how mindset is important and how perspective and the mental game um is probably about 99% of the thing, um, and the physical is only just a tiny component of that.
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SPEAKER_00: And I've brought um a few little shifts, perspective shifts, you know, principles that I go off of and that I've learnt through uh performing at a decent level of running, being in a different country in America in training, and through a lot of injuries and uncertainties and setbacks.
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SPEAKER_00: Um, so I've just I've brought through a few topics and ideas, little thoughts that we can talk about, Charlotte.
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SPEAKER_00: And I'd love to get your opinion on some of these.
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SPEAKER_01: I've got a lot here.
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SPEAKER_00: So the first one is I'm just gonna start off.
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SPEAKER_00: Lots of people will turn off now because this is another Latinism.
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SPEAKER_00: Labaro come from the Latin.
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SPEAKER_00: This is about decision making and really what is, what makes a good decision, and how can we get better at making decisions?
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SPEAKER_00: Um, mainly because I feel like we spend a lot of time wasting time because we need to make a decision, but we don't really understand like a framework of what a decision actually is.
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SPEAKER_00: And so from the Latin, decision comes from the word decidere or decido, which pretty much means to cut off.
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SPEAKER_00: So, like an incision, like if you were to you know make a little cut into someone, you know, cut in, decision is to cut off, and it gotta be thinking, as things normally do.
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SPEAKER_00: Um a lot of the things that we make decisions over is not necessarily to make a decision to do something, it's actually what are we willing to cut off.
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SPEAKER_00: So if I were to make a decision to go to the to invest more time into my training, then as an like an opportunity cost, like what else could I be doing with that time, if I spend an extra half an hour in the gym, that is a half an hour that I can't be spent somewhere else.
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SPEAKER_00: And it's like, am I okay to give up or to cut off something else I'm gonna do with my time?
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SPEAKER_00: Um and so I frame it that way.
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SPEAKER_00: It's not like it's not do I want to go to the gym more, do I want to train more, or do I want to sleep more, or do I want to hang out with friends more?
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SPEAKER_00: Um, it's more so about what am I happy cutting off seems a bit aggressive, but you kind of have to make that cut and then off of it.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: Does that resonate?
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SPEAKER_02: Does that no, that is good, and I've never really looked at it from that perspective.
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SPEAKER_02: Um I also feel like there's like back to kind of what you were talking about at the start with decisions as well.
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SPEAKER_02: It's such a broad thing to speak about because there's so like varying degrees of decisions as well, right?
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SPEAKER_02: Like I could decide a second ago, decided to take my sunglasses off, too bright, decided to put them back down again.
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SPEAKER_02: But then you can also have life-changing decisions.
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SPEAKER_01: So when you really go into the deeper side of decisions, I was just thinking about it as you say, I was like, oh, this is there's a there's a lot to talk about with decisions.
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SPEAKER_00: What's a decision that you've might have made recently?
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SPEAKER_00: Is there anything that you've switched up?
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SPEAKER_02: Like a big decision?
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SPEAKER_00: Anything.
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SPEAKER_00: I mean, I I I'm under the the kind of the opinion that it works from the small scale up all the way to the big scale.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: Um there just might be um we can kind of get onto it as we talk more about decisions, is it's you're cutting off a part of your identity, is one of the main things.
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SPEAKER_00: You're not just cutting off like uh an activity or a task or something that you could be doing.
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SPEAKER_00: You have to, if you are to make a decision about your identity, the person that you want to be, you're having to cut off a previous version of yourself.
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SPEAKER_00: Yes.
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SPEAKER_00: I think it works all the way through, but whatever you whatever you fancy, if it's a big decision or a little decision.
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SPEAKER_02: Uh well, recently with like social media, I came to the realisation that I was I think I feel like I was doing a lot of posts to try and just fit in with the Instagram algorithm.
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SPEAKER_02: And it really I've been thinking about it quite a lot and I feel like I really lost myself just trying to post for like other people's approval and like kind of potentially, you know, brands I might want to work with, etc.
6:53
SPEAKER_02: And I made the decision the other day to just chill out a little bit because I completely lost my love for like social media and just being on my phone as well, and the decision to just let go a little bit and just not uh trying is the key word at the moment, yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: To just let go a little bit more, and I decided I was speaking my story the other day, and I just think I'm just gonna try and go back to you know, doing what I liked doing at the start because like in terms of posting.
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SPEAKER_00: What was the what's the difference?
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SPEAKER_00: Like when what sort of stuff are you posting at the start compared to what you kind of fell into?
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SPEAKER_02: So well I just I would just kind of look at the posts that would do well on my Instagram, and a lot of it was just kind of like physique updates and stuff like that, or posting in like gym outfits and not kind of adding any like sustenance to it, and like you know, my main thing that I do is that I'm a coach and I love that and I love helping people and I love doing posts that people find interesting, but those might not do the best online and well they haven't done the best with some some of the stuff I've done, right?
8:01
SPEAKER_02: Um but at the end of the day that's where I'm that's kind of my my baseline with work and that's what I am the most passionate about, and I think I put a bit too much pressure on myself and lost myself a little bit with trying to yeah, just do do these posts for you know external validation and actually I just needed to do stuff that was helping the people that are in my close circle.
8:27
SPEAKER_02: Um so I've decided to start doing more of that again because I used to enjoy doing that and like making cooking videos and stuff, I need to go back to doing that again.
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SPEAKER_00: I saw in I saw in your story, you know, you said you want to bring back bring back some cooking videos.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
8:42
SPEAKER_02: It's a fun time for everyone as well, because then you know we're all eating nice bits of bobs.
8:47
SPEAKER_00: It's very true.
8:48
SPEAKER_00: Um I've yeah, I brought I brought in, you know, another very bland functional meal in today.
8:53
SPEAKER_02: It smells great.
8:54
SPEAKER_00: But it's so good.
8:55
SPEAKER_00: Chicken pesto pasta.
8:56
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's a staple.
8:57
SPEAKER_02: It's time real.
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SPEAKER_02: Um but yeah, I think it's it's not a very deep decision at all.
9:00
SPEAKER_02: But I think in terms of my like peace of mind and putting pressure on myself, I decided, you know what, Charlie, you've gotta just like chill out a little bit and you know, I've I've got a bit a bit of a tendency to be like a pupil pleaser, and that can be within like a close-knit group of people, or you know, via social media and think, okay, this is what people want to see, or what I believe people want to see, so I'm just posting that.
9:27
SPEAKER_02: It's not.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that sort of like audience capture, I think they call it, is a really tough thing, I guess, for you know, someone that is a creator of content, is you get to a point where like you say, if you want to work with some brands, you might have to deviate to play the game of trying to get more eyes on you.
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SPEAKER_00: And I guess it's it's all down to like what metrics of like success do you want to have in your account.
9:51
SPEAKER_00: And I guess when you have that, the the external let's say initial like motivation to uh appeal to a brand by having more followers or more views or more likes or like more engagement, yeah.
10:01
SPEAKER_00: Because those are the kind of things that they might look for if you were advertising like their products, um, it then does come at the expense of the the authentic stuff.
10:10
SPEAKER_00: And and actually, you know, it's it depends.
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SPEAKER_00: You can I I feel like that's an okay, it's definitely an okay thing to do because it it's a series of almost invisible decisions that that kind of lead you away a little bit, yeah.
10:25
SPEAKER_00: But you do get to that point where you're like, okay, this is this is now feeling like maybe like a bit of a chore.
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SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
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SPEAKER_02: And I think at the end, I I you know I'm a big believer on like the things that are meant to be in your life will come to you because of like who you are, they or they should come to you because of who you are organically, not who you kind of try to portray yourself to be.
10:46
SPEAKER_02: And I think I was trying to portray myself to be something quite a lot, and I just I it was like a bit of a click, and I was like, why am I doing this?
10:55
SPEAKER_02: Because if I do end up getting a brand approaching me, they're probably approaching me thinking that I'm someone else, when actually, you know, if I did want to be myself, and I think that would then just cause like a vicious cycle, cycle, cycle, cycle, cycle, all of the above.
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SPEAKER_00: It's it's like the uh it's like the thing of kind of first dates, like you go out dating, and there's a there's a I think it's maybe like a third date kind of phenomena where for a lot of the times like it takes three dates to maybe understand the other person, like they're putting up a bit of a front to get to know a bit extra, a bit more curtain, yeah.
11:31
SPEAKER_00: You kind of put yeah, you've got you might act a certain way, you might be super positive or interesting or whatever.
11:36
SPEAKER_00: Try to be cool.
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SPEAKER_00: Um do you that way you go?
11:39
SPEAKER_02: You know what?
11:40
SPEAKER_02: Now trying to be cool.
11:41
SPEAKER_02: Now I've just given up like I used to try and kind of act like a bit of a cool girl.
11:45
SPEAKER_02: Now I'm just like I because I just think if I can't be me from the get-go, again it's gonna be like, oh, that person's gonna like you for so now.
11:54
SPEAKER_02: I mean, I'm not doing first dates now, but like yeah prior, it was a case of like I'm just I can't be asked to be anyone but myself.
12:03
SPEAKER_00: But it is exhausting, like you say, like it's the same in the in the not that I'm experienced at dating whatsoever.
12:10
SPEAKER_00: Don't expose yourself like that.
12:11
SPEAKER_00: But it's like if you find an account on a hinge, it's not me.
12:18
SPEAKER_00: Um but am I quite but it is just like you know, you you you start, it's just not rewarding, and also like you say, like if if a if a brand wants to work with you or you end up seeing someone more, like they're gonna see you as yourself, like they're gonna see you on some of your leap like less positive days, and um it is the choice to authentic, isn't it?
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SPEAKER_00: Exactly, it's the authenticity, and that's not something you can I don't know if I don't know if there's a there's probably a whole YouTube algorithm on like how to be authentic, and it's literally just like just keep it simple and just you know be yourself, be who you are around your family is what I say, right?
12:59
SPEAKER_02: Because that's who your most authentic self is likely to be.
13:03
SPEAKER_02: Maybe actually, yeah, it depends.
13:05
SPEAKER_02: But you know, if you're close to your family and how you kind of feel most be who you are around people you feel most at ease with.
13:14
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
13:14
SPEAKER_02: Because that's when you're probably gonna if you feel kind of safe around those people, that's when you're gonna ooh, they're like using that word.
13:20
SPEAKER_02: But that's probably when you're gonna be your most authentic self with people that you're comfortable with, right?
13:24
SPEAKER_00: There you go.
13:25
SPEAKER_00: And I think just having a little like stock take, a little review of you know, if you are doing something, whether it be at work or at the gym or like with something like content creation, yeah, is like is it the thing if you didn't I know a lot of things is like audience dependent.
13:42
SPEAKER_00: Um if there wasn't an audience or if you were just speaking to like one person, um, how would it change you know how you create content?
13:49
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, exactly.
13:50
SPEAKER_00: Um I think this is like in the early stages of this, like this podcast, is we give ourselves loads of free reign to explore loads of topics.
13:59
SPEAKER_00: It's kind of how I see it.
13:59
SPEAKER_00: It's like we want to do two a week, which means after a year there'll be a hundred episodes, and then which would be nuts.
14:06
SPEAKER_02: That's gonna be fun.
14:07
SPEAKER_02: Close to thirty.
14:08
SPEAKER_02: It's mental, isn't it?
14:09
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, both age and podcast.
14:12
SPEAKER_02: Getting old, Charles.
14:13
SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna be 25 in two two weeks.
14:16
SPEAKER_02: I'm on the wrong side of 25.
14:19
SPEAKER_02: 26.
14:20
SPEAKER_02: It's all gonna change.
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SPEAKER_00: Oh no.
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SPEAKER_00: But it's like it'll be interesting how you know, once once this podcast gains, you know, like world status, yeah, a bit more traction.
14:32
SPEAKER_02: Obviously, it will.
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SPEAKER_00: How will it change the way that you know we might talk and it might be a certain case that we'll try and appeal to to certain audiences, and naturally that'll happen, and then how quickly can we have a little discussion and be like, yeah, okay, that we're not like let's say we're not having fun recording and making podcasts and stuff like that.
14:50
SPEAKER_02: You've got to switch up, yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: So that's that's one part of I guess like you know, gone off the track a little bit from the decisions, but I think it's it's important.
15:01
SPEAKER_00: But there's another thing about decisions, which is you know, making the right decision, and it's a framework that I you know it must have come from a podcast back when I was in third year at uni, so a few years ago, about three or four years ago, and I remember listening to it as I was walking by the river in Durham, and I remember listening to it, and it was a decision framework making decisions, and it was um asking yourself if the decision that you're making needs to be a good quality decision, or it just needs to be a quick decision.
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SPEAKER_00: So it's about saying if it's quality or speed that you're looking for with decisions, and you have basically like a quadrant.
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SPEAKER_00: So you've got at the at the top, let's say it's like you know, it's urgent, the decision's urgent or it's not urgent, and then on the other side you have like it needs to be a good quality decision, or the quality actually doesn't matter.
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SPEAKER_00: And I remember that a lot of decisions like I would spend way too long making a decision that just needed to be made rather than needed to be made well.
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SPEAKER_02: I am the same, I still do it.
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SPEAKER_02: Really?
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, using that that kind of idea decisive, yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: Um where do you where do you fall into the trap?
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SPEAKER_02: The most basic things, right?
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SPEAKER_02: If people are like, oh w oh, there's two places.
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SPEAKER_02: I've given you two options to go for dinner.
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SPEAKER_02: This face or this face?
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SPEAKER_02: Where do you want to go?
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SPEAKER_00: I'm like, oh so you're you want to look for the quality you're looking for quality, like you want to make a good decision.
16:34
SPEAKER_02: I think so, yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: And and now it's a case of me just I I I will recognise that I'm being too indecisive and then I just pick one.
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unknown: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: But um what I was gonna ask you quickly is we should probably just continue with what you're saying, but it just came to my head, isn't it?
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SPEAKER_00: I've got it in my brain, it's alright.
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SPEAKER_02: What's to you how do you know if you've made the right decision?
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SPEAKER_00: That's kind of where my mind was going, which is how do I know if I've made the right decision?
17:08
SPEAKER_00: I make sure I've got I guess it depends what scale like this is about making the right decision.
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SPEAKER_00: So something with my surgery, if that's the right decision, a lot of the times with my injuries, I've learnt that I first of all need to gather information to get clarity and a little bit more um kind of just understanding of actually like from an objective point of view, what's the right decision to make.
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SPEAKER_00: So it's like gathering information um which is adequate enough.
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SPEAKER_00: It doesn't need to be everything, like I'm not gonna be able to know everything about like my body and about the injury and how like complex it is.
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SPEAKER_00: Um, but I need to gain enough information that I'm happy making an imperfect decision, and what I'll do is I'll make sure that I will sit in the emotion of a decision and just allow whatever emotion to to arise and how I feel about it, I guess from more like a gut perspective, yeah.
18:09
SPEAKER_00: But then also from a kind of a cognitive, I will maybe think about certain scenarios to then come to come to that decision, and it is then uh once I'm happy with the information that I have at the time and that I have clarity and I'm aligned with my values, then I make the decision and I'll lock it in.
18:33
SPEAKER_00: Um and that's it.
18:34
SPEAKER_00: And once I've kind of realized as a person for me, I am very decisive in the sense that once I make that decision, I am very happy.
18:44
SPEAKER_00: And it's it's exactly the same in my head.
18:46
SPEAKER_00: I'm like, what am I willing to cut off?
18:48
SPEAKER_00: What am I willing to let go of?
18:50
SPEAKER_00: And it and I might understand that once I make that first decision, there may be occurrences, little uh kind of experiences that come back where I have to reinforce that decision.
19:01
SPEAKER_00: So it's not necessarily that I make the decision to have surgery, once I've made it, I've locked it in.
19:07
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, like I might still have doubts about it, but I've already factored in that there are going to be some sort of doubts at certain points.
19:15
SPEAKER_02: Just cycle back to why you made that original decision in the first place.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so it's like setting expectations, and the more that I understand the decisions that I make, the more that I have to understand exactly at which point I've made the decision.
19:27
SPEAKER_00: And I would say, like, you know, from a regret point of view, if I am happy that at the time it felt right, it made sense, and I had enough information that was adequate to make the decision, then I can't go back on it.
19:43
SPEAKER_00: I can't try and hypothesize, I can't use, I can't use high hindsight, like hindsight bias, anything like that.
19:49
SPEAKER_00: Because especially with injuries and especially how things play out, like going out to America, at the time before I was going, the thing that I valued was financial support.
19:59
SPEAKER_00: I wanted to go out there because I wanted to dedicate, I'd had quite a uh intense like academic degree, and I naturally over the three years I'd gone from being like academic focused to then doing a bit more running and finding through injuries that when I lacked running, that was the thing that I really wanted to pursue.
20:15
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and so I really wanted to go full-time on the running side, and for me, I wanted the financial backing to not have a job and just go and train.
20:25
SPEAKER_00: Love that at the time.
20:27
SPEAKER_00: That decision was likely I felt like it was the right decision to make.
20:32
SPEAKER_00: I could probably pick it apart if I wanted to, naturally.
20:35
SPEAKER_00: It was maybe for my running career up to this point, if we like stop it here, yeah, probably one of the worst decisions I've ever made.
20:43
SPEAKER_00: Like, genuinely, if we take it from a from a purely metric of success, career, like, can I run fast now?
20:50
SPEAKER_00: It's obviously a work in progress, but like how have I how did that training impact my running?
20:55
SPEAKER_00: Seeing the success of the people in my group that started running really well, literally when I went to America and are now on the world stage competing, running like seriously fast.
21:05
SPEAKER_00: I've made a fucking terrible decision.
21:08
SPEAKER_02: And do you regret that decision?
21:10
SPEAKER_02: No, not this is what I was gonna allude on to.
21:13
SPEAKER_02: Are there any decisions that you've made in life which you would say you regret?
21:17
SPEAKER_02: This is like a therapy session.
21:20
SPEAKER_00: Are there any decisions that I've made in my life that I regret?
21:24
SPEAKER_00: Um on the whole, the decisions that I have regretted for like a short period of time have been those when I haven't been mindful of myself like as a whole.
21:36
SPEAKER_00: Like if I'm putting myself in a situation where you know I'm going out and like making myself feel worse the next day for the sake of something that isn't really worth it, through just kind of pure like lack of consideration for my like future self, yeah, that's something that I regret.
21:56
SPEAKER_00: And then what I'll do is I will allow myself to.
22:00
SPEAKER_00: regret it for a good however long it takes to then understand that when the next decision comes about to like care for myself or to not care for myself I have a good reminder that it wasn't a good time last time.
22:13
SPEAKER_02: Lesson learnt.
22:14
SPEAKER_00: Lesson learnt yeah I th I think sometimes when I've decided not to regret things I haven't learnt the lesson and it's important to feel I think it's probably important to feel bad about something you've done harm to yourself or others.
22:29
SPEAKER_00: Of course it's like you kind of need to pay the consequences of that so that you learn from it.
22:35
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
22:36
SPEAKER_02: Yeah I agree.
22:37
SPEAKER_00: What about you?
22:38
SPEAKER_02: To be honest Charlie it's funny back at you.
22:43
SPEAKER_02: I would like I wouldn't have put it in as good of a way as you have but I think a similar kind of thing there's obviously stuff I regret and a lot of it has been when it's been because I'm quite an impulsive person and sometimes I've made some decisions which might have been a little bit that I regretted and thought oh silly girl why did you do that but I think now from a mature standpoint you know other side of 20 25 now that that hyper frontal lobe yeah frontal lobe that's it fully developed fully developed I think I'm a little bit better with being like okay well I learned something from that and most of these silly decisions that I've made where I have regretted them you do you learn a lesson and you don't make it again and that's I think that's a it's a beautiful thing.
23:35
SPEAKER_02: It is um and I think it's it's part of being it's part of being an adult isn't it you you do learn these things that you think ah probably wouldn't do that again but hey ho now I know that I won't do that again because I've experienced it.
23:49
SPEAKER_00: Yeah and like you've alluded to it's it's not it's not ignoring those signals and feelings of regret like to inform the next decision that you make it's it's like you you could easily brush it off and let's say that you you made a decision you don't feel good about it but you just let it go you try and let it go too quick you know then it's not going to have that impact.
24:11
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
24:12
SPEAKER_02: It's important to humble yourself with stuff I think because otherwise you're just living in a bit of a state of a delusion right if you if you don't regret anything like I think it's natural to regret stuff and it's also natural to kind of make mistakes and think oh that probably wasn't the right decision in hindsight.
24:29
SPEAKER_00: Um yeah I had a um a regret budget last year.
24:34
SPEAKER_01: Oh gosh right so that in your journal probably yeah it'll be somewhere in the other one.
24:40
SPEAKER_00: Yeah somewhere in the other one this is a new one that it's a new one um but that last year so I along my kind of uh knee injury the last two years I was trying loads of different things I was trying lots of rehab seeing an osteopath I was trying to do less do more strengthening do mobility um let it heal train more whatever train less train less literally like exhausting every single option down left right yeah exactly sideways roly poly rolling down the stairs uh maybe not actually hurt to walk down the stairs but I got to a point I went to the physio again after a year of trying to sort this stuff out and we did some strength testing and there was nothing like no imbalance anywhere.
25:26
SPEAKER_00: We're kind of happy with the osteopath that my alignment was right and it then got to a point where it's like what's the next step and maybe it's you know after a year of being injured it's you've got protective mechanisms to not be able to get back running because in your mind and your nervous system it's just very like a tune to the alarm signals of like of the knee and maybe I had kind of the alarm was super sensitive and I was feeling pain where there wasn't always like a certain amount of pain.
25:53
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
25:54
SPEAKER_00: So I gave myself a regret budget being that I would get back we said okay we're just going to give it a go to be really positive for the next two months like blindly positive.
26:06
SPEAKER_00: Toxic positivity toxic positivity of saying like I am healthy you know I can run um and I built up my mileage over like two to three months about 10 weeks from no no running to 20 miles a week which for me is like nothing.
26:21
SPEAKER_00: Yeah it but it doesn't it's it's like I should be able to do 20 miles a week is it's like three or four runs a week.
26:27
SPEAKER_00: Yeah and I said okay I'm just gonna give this this like next three months I'm not gonna allow myself to regret the decision um because I'm just gonna give it a go.
26:37
SPEAKER_00: If it doesn't work out then it's okay.
26:38
SPEAKER_00: That's within the budget of of regret.
26:41
SPEAKER_00: And it didn't fucking work out but it's another option that we needed to explore at that point because it's like from a scientific point of view from like a a strength point of view you know and it wasn't a surprise like I've been doing rehab for a whole year and I was stronger than I've ever been yeah it's like okay what's next?
26:57
SPEAKER_00: Of course yeah yeah yeah and so that's then after we did that then I had a a month of like backing off again and then before I went out to Australia I was like right let's go see him again let's go see the physio see if there are any literally anything else that we've explored and then I went and saw a consultant went to the surgeon it's like it's kind of the last last resort so quad's the same size as the other one now yeah I've built I've built back my right quad I reckon it's almost overtaking the left really I'm doing strength work now and I'm still doing a bit more on the right side it's mad and it's yeah the nervous system's crazy because you had that muscle there before it's easy to put it back again.
27:39
SPEAKER_00: I reckon it well it's stronger my hamstrings are already stronger than they were before pre-surgery and that's good as well you want to be able to have that equal strength in your hammies and your quads to support your knee yeah 100% um so that's that's yeah kind of decisions I'm trying to think there's there's another thing that um I've kind of learnt with with making decisions but it's kind of escaped me um for the moment but it might come back I can relate yeah yeah it's just it's just gone from my mind um but I think that's it like the the decisions it's pretty much like asking yourself rather than making the decision that you want to make it asking yourself like if you make that decision what are you cutting off or more so what are you willing to let go is the main thing.
28:26
SPEAKER_00: It's like you know cutting off sounds a bit aggressive.
28:29
SPEAKER_00: Yeah what would be your first step is that is that what you'd ask yourself number one what are you willing to if it's a big decision I would have a yeah I would have a look at it and say what does what's the the consequences of this decision.
28:40
SPEAKER_02: Would you potentially write it down somewhere?
28:42
SPEAKER_00: I yeah I would oh yeah I'd always write it down yeah that's the main thing I'd make sure like that's part of the thing is like gaining clarity.
28:49
SPEAKER_00: Yeah yeah of course um for some people it might be like meditation it might be talking about it might be writing things down I think it's anything that you can establish distance between you know the thoughts and the emotions and how they might corrupt like the decision making especially if you're a a someone that makes decisions based off emotions rather than kind of rational like the rational side of things there's always a mixture of both you go a bit a bit rational a bit logical but also you want to be able to feel that it's right.
29:20
SPEAKER_00: It's so funny actually the first this the first thing that I wrote in this journal was and I was deliberating a little bit in Waterstones because I saw one there's a lady that got another one and I was like where did you get that from and just like pointed like near the near the front door yeah and I said like I wrote down I said I chose this journal because it felt right in the moment that seems enough amen.
29:44
SPEAKER_00: So if you want to just distill it down to that it's like if it feels right and you've got clarity of mind um then you just I like that a lot and I think people should take that little snippet and run with it.
29:57
SPEAKER_00: And that actually reminds me of what I was gonna say which is when we're talking about making good decisions and if you've got the framework of having a good decision or a uh fast decision speed of decision a lot of the times what you think is a good decision um is going to prevent you from making a good decision okay in the sense that a lot of the times just making a decision is the good decision.
30:27
SPEAKER_00: Like making the decision with a a job that you want to go for um making a decision with uh the route that you want to take to work right if it's a if you're at a fork in the road and you're like okay uh there's a bit of traffic going this way there's no traffic going this way but the country routes it's going to take a little bit longer at that point in time because you want to get there as fast as possible you just need to pick one pick one and like ride like just roll with it.
30:56
SPEAKER_00: Yeah ride the wave baby just ride ride the wave of that decision and actually that's the best decision that you can make is making the decision quick.
31:04
SPEAKER_00: So it's like you know asking yourself if it's as someone for you that's someone that likes to make good quality decisions.
31:14
SPEAKER_00: A lot of the decisions that you make is just like where are we going to eat?
31:17
SPEAKER_00: Well we'll lock it in and then we'll make what we can of it.
31:21
SPEAKER_02: Yeah yeah I like that I like that a lot yeah so that's decisions.
31:27
SPEAKER_00: The next one is something which I learnt uh when was it?
31:34
SPEAKER_00: I think it was it was when I gave up drinking after my 21st.
31:38
SPEAKER_00: I still drink every now and then you wouldn't you wouldn't you're like me you don't wouldn't go I'm sober but you don't drink I'll drink yeah every few weeks maybe and I don't really know how much but sometimes a little bit line your knee.
31:51
SPEAKER_00: Get off it's healing right off my knee um this one was about sacrifices okay and that what is initially a sacrifice ends up becoming just a lifestyle choice further down the line.
32:05
SPEAKER_00: Yes um and I this was with drinking for me if I were to go through a lot of my writing before I made like made the choice to give up drinking for that like the track season um was a lot about my identity would be I'm not the type of person that will give up alcohol completely.
32:26
SPEAKER_00: I was at uni in my in my second year I'm like I see the people that I train with and they've given up alcohol and I'm just not the same as them.
32:33
SPEAKER_00: Yeah um I would like to keep it in because I enjoy it makes me like more relaxed towards my approach of training and it had loads of benefits and I was basically I could not see myself giving up completely.
32:47
SPEAKER_00: Then I decided I was like right after a while I said let me just give it a go.
32:50
SPEAKER_00: I want to have a really good track season I was injured for like seven months and I was like I want to give this proper go and it initially was a sacrifice the next couple of months like it was 21st season yeah I was going to load parties I was still going out clubbing in Durham drinking no no sober.
33:06
SPEAKER_00: Well sister sober so I was out sober at clubs which are terrible even when you're drunk yeah it was just terrible like uh experience but that was all sacrifices and I had to keep making specific decisions in in that time of not to drink not to drink it's kind of worth it it's worth it um and after a while I was looking at the kind of the social I had to re-socialise like talking to people when sober was something which was alien to me especially at uni like everything involved drink so true it was it was just everyone would ask and it's a classic thing a lot with drinking is like people assume that you don't have a problem or you do have a problem if you don't drink yeah it's just like okay what like why why are you not drinking it's like oh I just don't want you it's like don't be boring you're okay I'm not being boring buddy still gonna come out and have a great time please just let me chill just hate feeling horrible in the morning to be fair.
34:02
SPEAKER_00: That was yeah that was it I was like I wonder how this is gonna I was just interested to see how it impact my training um and at throughout that period it felt like a sacrifice in that first two months and then after a while it just transformed into a choice that I was making that I'd rather do and I think you know that is down to the fact that I didn't really know the value of the sacrifice at the time because I hadn't given it a go but once I made what was initially a sacrifice I kind of understood like oh I can like training is so much easier.
34:34
SPEAKER_00: It's so much easier to be consistent or it really doesn't matter if I stay out past 10 o'clock because no one's gonna remember it anyway or you know I don't need that extra drink after midnight um you know and then after a while I was like actually I could see the value in deciding not to drink in certain occasions um and it felt it didn't it didn't feel like a sacrifice anymore.
34:58
SPEAKER_02: Yeah for me I've never really seen the especially the Alcarn I used to really struggle with this at uni's like I guess at a certain point in the night I just don't need another drink you know people just like they will just top up top up till till the lights come on and I'm like I I can't where's your cutoff?
35:17
SPEAKER_02: Was it just feeling actually got quite a good so I I I've also look life lessons I've also made I've I've met I had a few times where I have just drunk too much and I've just learned and it took me a few times to go thinking you know I think I'm on death store with this hangover I think it is alcohol poisoning um to go I don't I don't want to feel like this anymore and even now for me I think I've got quite a sensitive stomach so I used to have I had something called gastritis a long time ago which is like inflammation of your stomach lining.
35:46
SPEAKER_02: So basically it's you just what you get before you get the stomach ulcers.
35:48
SPEAKER_02: Okay and that was horrible.
35:50
SPEAKER_02: Sounds nasty it it wasn't great and I think from that I'm sure my my stomach is completely fine out but I've I've have quite a sensitive stomach when it comes to drinking and like you know even at I remember on Christmas Eve uh not Christmas was it Christmas Eve yeah Christmas Eve I went out for a few cocktails and I I wasn't drunk at all.
36:09
SPEAKER_02: I've got a really high tolerance with alcohol do you think that in reality no but I really wasn't drunk I had to be sick because my stomach just wasn't like it just felt I could just feel it sitting there it's made it would make me feel really sick.
36:25
SPEAKER_02: Gloopy anyway so yeah gloop gloop gloopy gloop gloop slosh slosh yeah horrible but uh yeah no at uni I think I'm usually pretty good if I go out and I'm drinking I think it gets to a point I I don't really do that anymore but I really don't but I know when to go I don't I I don't think I need another one and I th I I back myself that I'm quite good at that now and I even at uni like I have my friend trying to give me a flipping oh Jäger bombs and I hate them anyway but it was like it'd be like two in the morning and I thought I'm actually right I'm just gonna have like a tropical Red Bull or something.
36:59
SPEAKER_02: Just like so I've got something to kind of keep still having caffeine yeah rocking mate my sleep wasn't great at uni that's not that's it's got much better now.
37:07
SPEAKER_00: Well that's what I found when I stopped drinking I replaced it with caffeine yeah because I didn't know how to socialise without being buzzed.
37:13
SPEAKER_00: Yeah so I I then realised that I ended up going to bed later than everyone else because they went to bed at 2am because they passed out I was up at 3am because I fucking had four Red Bulls.
37:25
SPEAKER_02: But everybody had terrible sleep quality right if you're sleeping with alcohol you're not actually sleeping it's just passing out and if you're sleeping with caffeine it's terribly disruptive.
37:33
SPEAKER_02: HRV megalow yeah HRV minus one but yeah that was actually funny because I would just replace it with like I had a proper I love because I don't like regular Red Bulls I really don't like the taste of energy drink.
37:48
SPEAKER_02: You know that energy drink flavour can't stand it.
37:50
SPEAKER_02: Yeah but standard monster yeah like you know the fruity flavoured ones they were wicked or just like a Coke a back of tropical Red Bull.
37:58
SPEAKER_02: Yeah and I just tell them I just tell them that it was an alcoholic drink.
38:01
SPEAKER_02: They're like oh what are you drinking?
38:02
SPEAKER_02: Yeah it's just a Red Bull mate or it's just a Coke of vodka and they're like oh can I have some give them some they wouldn't know the difference because they're all blind drunk.
38:10
SPEAKER_02: Uh-huh great yeah I just I just first year I've been there done that did the initiation with hockey and I thought I don't need to be chundering with strong bod fruits you know three litres of it chug in just to prove that you're well art.
38:23
SPEAKER_01: Elite drink it's fine it it was good if you're six we're like society drinking it someone cracked open a dark fruits at the weekend up on a stag in Edinburgh.
38:34
SPEAKER_00: It's not a bad someone brought it back and it's like what are you playing at?
38:41
SPEAKER_00: Fritz Fritz anyway but yeah sacrifices then become lifestyle choices guys um you drink that tropical Red Bull and I and I think it is down to um not judging how something's gonna go before you do it.
38:58
SPEAKER_00: Yes um a kind of or giving yourself a uh a being wrong budget you know giving yourself an awkward budget giving yourself a people think I'm boring budget with that one too giving yourself a people hate me budget oh god wasn't gonna wasn't gonna go that far budget everyone hates you did you ever get that it's just me I'm not even gonna try and relate to that it won't come across the right way it's just you let the people decide uh that's I was if you're listening please just give me a bit of an ego boost anytime you see Charlotte at the next class you will hate me but then you'll know if they say like oh you're right it's like oh we really like you you're like you're literally just saying that you're lying for inauthentic yeah sacrifices become lifestyle choices once you understand and have a lived experience of um the value that you're initially sacrificing and what it actually does for you um and that change is possible so next one on the list um this is uh how would things be different if we weren't in a rush context please uh I thought this came this thought came about when I had had a couple of days where I was rushing to work because I hadn't had good time management.
40:41
SPEAKER_00: I can relate just chucking that over to you and I just thought sometimes you know if the traffic was bad or I hadn't left like an extra five minutes how did it impact the quality of my drive to work?
40:59
SPEAKER_02: Oh very stressful drive for me.
41:01
SPEAKER_02: It's the ch it's the Tuesday curse I talk about with Petra and Pierce because A my time management isn't it's it's just Tuesday.
41:09
SPEAKER_02: My time management isn't ideal but usually I'm I leave with an accurate amount of time to the get to the gym so that's the issue.
41:16
SPEAKER_02: So it's not that I'm leaving No room no room for error this is the problem with me.
41:21
SPEAKER_02: So I look and I go yeah that's that's that's the that's the time it takes to get to the gym with a nice clear run.
41:26
SPEAKER_02: The problem is on Tuesday there seems to be a curse where I'll bump into a learner driver every it's a recurring slot.
41:33
SPEAKER_00: It's crazy how you haven't picked that one up sometimes I'm just lucky and they're not doing it you know and then they pass their tests also the traffic going through Woodhurst and I drive to work and luckily Petra and Pierce we they're great and we all get on very well and they just find it quite funny you know well they do but you know there there is a 10 minute period where they're here before you and they start chatting so much shit about you.
41:55
SPEAKER_02: That's also it's a 10 minute period that they're 10 minutes early this is the issue but I'm driving to work and I dri I arrive and I'm pissed off and then within 30 seconds I'm absolutely fine because it's Petra and Pierce and they're lovely and we're all good but I do get quite stressed and I'm like if I just sorted that out and I you know anyway talking about it's a learning process it's a learning process I I get into that.
42:23
SPEAKER_00: Hey hey hey what would it what would it take for you?
42:26
SPEAKER_00: What would you have to cut off to make the decision to go earlier?
42:29
SPEAKER_00: Just bloody leave the house on time in the morning to go to the gym because I get up at six to go to the gym but I always end up procrastinating and leaving too late so there's a knock on effect and then I leave the gym every every time I leave at 20 past I leave at 20 past to get to here at 11 but I always I do have some clear runs I do have some clear runs but I need to leave at quarter past just to allow that extra five minutes grace period you know it's amazing the complexity of it all isn't it it is so complex guys I was really struggling I think these what what's interesting is like a lot of the things where you realize you're in a rush or you're not um the for me all of these little thought experiments they come about by accident so I might accidentally for no real reason like I might just be ready to leave a little bit earlier and then I leave and then I have a taste of like this drive is really nice.
43:28
SPEAKER_00: Yes.
43:29
SPEAKER_00: I'm not worried about the time I can listen to the podcast I was listening to or I can listen to nothing or like I can just enjoy the drive but then if I'm by accident let's say late or there's a bit more traffic or something then then I go okay this experience what is normally quite like my nice drive to and from work because I very much value that liminal space in between.
43:51
SPEAKER_02: I really enjoyed that too we've got a similar thing haven't we both a decent forty minutes.
43:57
SPEAKER_00: Yeah forty minutes could period of time Um Greatford, like one of these podcasts.
44:03
SPEAKER_02: As I arrived earlier.
44:04
SPEAKER_00: There you go.
44:04
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you're blaring it out of your speaker.
44:06
SPEAKER_00: I'm like, oh, it's my voice again.
44:08
SPEAKER_01: It's my voice again.
44:10
SPEAKER_00: Um so yeah, I think that's you know, what would we do if we weren't in a rush?
44:15
SPEAKER_00: So you probably enjoy the drive, less stress.
44:19
SPEAKER_00: And we're talking like five minutes, right?
44:21
SPEAKER_02: So it really doesn't take a lot to just reduce stress.
44:24
SPEAKER_00: I thought you were gonna say it doesn't take a lot for to get in on time.
44:27
SPEAKER_00: It does.
44:28
SPEAKER_00: And I was gonna hold it to you.
44:29
SPEAKER_02: I d I will hold it to myself because I can do it on all the other days of the week.
44:33
SPEAKER_00: It's just some reason it's comment below reminding on every single episode after this, asking Charlotte if she's been in on time.
44:40
SPEAKER_02: Have you got in this week?
44:42
SPEAKER_02: 11 o'clock on the dock, Petra Pizza were actually late.
44:45
SPEAKER_02: Shout out, Petra Pizz.
44:52
SPEAKER_02: But yeah, I think it's as you were saying, you know, that you know, you've left five minutes earlier, you enjoy the drive more, you're taking in more stuff as well.
45:02
SPEAKER_02: You know, you can go, oh, it's a really nice day.
45:05
SPEAKER_02: Whereas you're driving and you're late, I don't care about the sun, get out of the way, learner drive.
45:11
SPEAKER_00: You can appreciate the learner drive.
45:13
SPEAKER_02: And you just you're just I think I think one of the most important things is you're just more present instead of worrying about what's gonna happen when you get to that destination that you're late for.
45:23
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
45:24
SPEAKER_02: I think that's quite an important thing.
45:28
SPEAKER_02: Just I mean just staying present in general, right?
45:31
SPEAKER_00: I think you're spot on, and that that was one of the the realizations that I came to when I um kind of asked myself that question, what would I do if I wasn't in a rush?
45:40
SPEAKER_00: And a lot of it is I probably wouldn't spend all my time thinking about the future or predicting, right?
45:46
SPEAKER_00: You try and predict even like you take the you know this this can obviously apply to anything in life, but let's say it is the car journey, it is you start trying to predict, you know, what's gonna happen up the road.
45:55
SPEAKER_00: Like, oh, when I get to this spot, is there gonna be traffic?
45:58
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you all you and all you're doing is taking yourself out of the present and trying to predict the future, which although our brains are prediction machines, like that's kind of what they've evolved to do, and they're great at it, yeah, doesn't give you much of a sense of peace and calm.
46:14
SPEAKER_02: God, I can't explain how good it is to clock that you're present with something.
46:20
SPEAKER_02: Like the other day when I was in the field after work on what was it, Monday?
46:24
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I think it's Monday.
46:25
SPEAKER_02: And I just I was on a little walk and I just lay down and I was like, I've got nothing else to do this evening, and I just so and it's so calming.
46:34
SPEAKER_02: And I think I don't know if you're the same, I think w we in general we live in quite a fast paced society now.
46:43
SPEAKER_02: And yeah, I j I I a lot of days people go, how's today?
46:49
SPEAKER_02: It's like yeah, it was great.
46:50
SPEAKER_02: Uh but I'll think about the morning, like yesterday for me the morning was a blur.
46:55
SPEAKER_02: And I I was speaking to someone as I was going to see them, and I was saying, Well, I don't know what happened with the morning.
47:01
SPEAKER_02: I literally couldn't tell you.
47:03
SPEAKER_02: And it it stresses me out because then you you know you spend that whole morning worrying about the future, and then you think about it when you do have a time to kind of just set a little bit more, and then you think about the past and you're like, Oh, what you know, what's going on.
47:15
SPEAKER_02: So I I do sometimes it's yeah, as I say, it's just important to get that that feeling of being present with stuff, and I think that comes with just timekeeping.
47:27
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's a well it's allowing space to be present, yeah.
47:30
SPEAKER_00: You know, you're because if you if you're pushed for time, or if you feel like you're working towards a you know a dead a deadline or something that you've got to go out of your way to be quicker for, you're just clockwatching a lot of the times, like you know, and and had it a lot in especially like cross-training, or you know, even when we make these podcasts, like I'm you know, I'll I'll look down to make sure it's like the laptop's still recording and taking the audio in.
47:58
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
47:59
SPEAKER_00: But you know, after a while, like I don't know how long we've been talking for because you're kind of just you know in the present.
48:06
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
48:06
SPEAKER_00: Um so that's yeah, that's another one.
48:09
SPEAKER_00: I think you know, allow space to actually enjoy what you're doing and to be mindful like of it.
48:15
SPEAKER_00: Um another one which I realized was not just a like a short-term rushing, but maybe a longer term, medium to long term, like trying to be impatient and trying to rush things.
48:28
SPEAKER_00: Um, again, kind of learnt through my injuries and a lot of the times expectations of when physios have said that I should be back by a certain time.
48:35
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and so when that deadline comes about, let's say it's like in six weeks you should be alright.
48:40
SPEAKER_00: I'm then rushing towards then, being like, I don't feel like I'm ready, but he's he said I'm gonna be ready, and actually the impatience disrupts the progress.
48:49
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so there's a difference between being deliberate and intentional about things and doing things with intent and then actually rushing through them.
49:02
SPEAKER_00: So for me, like I kind of think how would I train differently, how would I approach things differently if I gave myself four years to run fast rather than six months or two months or a week, and that very much like drastically changes how I approach each session because it allows me to probably make a lot more progress in the long term, it allows for like compounding to take effect, but it also means that if I miss a day, or if you know I go in and like last week I wasn't feeling too great, I was a bit ill, Hayfe was a bit of a bit of a bitch.
49:39
SPEAKER_00: Oh god, it's big.
49:40
SPEAKER_00: He says it's just sitting on a farm.
49:42
SPEAKER_02: My nose is so stuffy right now, I can't lie.
49:45
SPEAKER_00: It's alright, it's it provides the dulcet tones.
49:48
SPEAKER_00: Don't do that.
49:50
SPEAKER_02: Sorry, guys.
49:51
SPEAKER_00: Don't edit these, we'll have to cut it out.
49:53
SPEAKER_02: God, just be myself, you know.
49:54
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, there you go.
49:55
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, alright, yeah, give me that's your regret budget.
49:58
SPEAKER_02: I regret that so much.
50:01
SPEAKER_00: Uh and and it's it's like if you can I say myself, like if I'm I want to be deliberate and urgent and like intent, have intent with the things that I do, but I want to loosen my grip on trying to force progress too quickly.
50:16
SPEAKER_00: And since I've decided to be um to not rush progress with rehab and with running and stuff like that, I have I feel like I've opened the door for in the long term over the next few years and like decade, I'll make a lot more progress than if I was trying to force it.
50:36
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
50:37
SPEAKER_00: So I think like, you know, we have we all had these goals and we have especially you know, a lot of clients will come into the gym and they'll talk about how they want to get ready for like for summer.
50:47
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
50:47
SPEAKER_00: Or they get ready for a few weeks' time.
50:48
SPEAKER_00: And like this is probably the time, right, mid early to mid-April where people are thinking about summer now.
50:54
SPEAKER_02: It starts.
50:55
SPEAKER_00: If you but if you didn't rush it and you thought, okay, like this summer I just want to lay the the groundwork of habits and be patient with it and say, like, next summer's where I really want to make improvements, you're gonna do so much better than you ever did think you could.
51:09
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
51:09
SPEAKER_02: Just baby steps, man.
51:12
SPEAKER_02: Baby steps.
51:14
SPEAKER_02: So that's that's not comfortable.
51:16
SPEAKER_00: That's rushing.
51:18
SPEAKER_00: Um that is rushing.
51:19
SPEAKER_00: I think we've got time for one more.
51:21
SPEAKER_00: So yeah, rushing, stop rushing.
51:23
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you know, life's still happening.
51:26
SPEAKER_00: Um, allow yourself a little bit of space, and you probably end up doing a little bit more in the long term if you play it out for the long term.
51:34
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
51:34
SPEAKER_00: Um, and it'd just take the pressure off you.
51:36
SPEAKER_00: It would take the pressure off the you know, forcing yourself to do things in in the moment, um, allow space for a little bit more progress.
51:44
SPEAKER_02: Um, there's so much to be learned and experienced from that.
51:49
SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
51:50
SPEAKER_00: Facdemundos.
51:51
SPEAKER_00: The last one is about doubt.
51:55
SPEAKER_03: Ooh.
51:57
SPEAKER_00: This is about doubt, and I did a little snippet of this in the it was way back, it was on the fifth episode, it's when I was talking about injuries and what I've learned and stuff, where I literally just sat in front of one camera.
52:08
SPEAKER_00: Uh, just me.
52:10
SPEAKER_01: Mrs.
52:10
SPEAKER_01: Doubtfire.
52:11
SPEAKER_01: Mrs.
52:11
SPEAKER_00: Doubtfire, Mr.
52:12
SPEAKER_01: Doubtfire, Mr.
52:13
SPEAKER_01: Doubtfire, kind of.
52:14
SPEAKER_00: Um 2026.
52:17
SPEAKER_00: Doubt is a sign that you're close to doing something that you didn't think you could do, or you have forgotten that you're capable of doing it.
52:30
SPEAKER_02: Can you repeat that?
52:32
SPEAKER_00: So doubt is a sign that you're close to doing something you don't think you could do, or it's a sign that you're close to doing something that you've forgotten you're capable of doing.
52:47
SPEAKER_02: That's a really interesting take.
52:49
SPEAKER_02: I like that.
52:51
SPEAKER_00: Does that resonate?
52:52
SPEAKER_02: I've just never thought about it like that.
52:55
SPEAKER_00: How do you normally see doubt?
52:56
SPEAKER_02: I d I I don't think I can do that.
52:59
SPEAKER_02: Just uh it's just uh for me it's uh negative connotation if I'm if I'm doubting something.
53:06
SPEAKER_00: And what happens when you like do you get to surely there's been situations where you've doubted that you could do it, but you do it anyway.
53:12
SPEAKER_02: Oh yeah.
53:14
SPEAKER_00: So what do you take from that?
53:16
SPEAKER_01: I was close to doing it that I could do it.
53:20
SPEAKER_02: Wait, wait, yeah.
53:21
SPEAKER_02: Doing close to doing something that I didn't think I could do, that I can do.
53:27
SPEAKER_02: I doubted myself at university.
53:30
SPEAKER_00: And then what happened?
53:32
SPEAKER_00: You got first hell yeah.
53:36
SPEAKER_00: I think it's it's it's it's crazy, like those, you know, a lot of the the thoughts that we'll have, a lot of resistance.
53:41
SPEAKER_00: There's a guy called uh Stephen Pressfield, got a really cool book, he's got two two really cool books that I've read.
53:47
SPEAKER_00: One is called The War of Art, and the other is called Turning Pro.
53:52
SPEAKER_00: And in the war of art, um there is a an idea basically fleshes it out called like resistance, and it is just anything that is kind of preventing you from achieving the things that you want to do in life, and it could be, and one of them I took as like one of the things is doubt.
54:11
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, um, things that and your mind's really quite gets really super smart about the ways that it wraps doubt up into something that's really convincing and persuasive.
54:23
SPEAKER_00: Um sometimes it will be in a way that's saying like you know, you've already you've already done enough, or you know, you you know you you can back off now.
54:34
SPEAKER_00: It could be really nice to you.
54:35
SPEAKER_00: Um it could also be a thing which is just like a you know quite an aggressive person that's saying like, you know, I I don't think you can do this, and you haven't given me evidence that you've done it before, so why why should you be able to do it now?
54:48
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
54:48
SPEAKER_02: Um that's what I have perfectionist mindset.
54:54
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
54:55
SPEAKER_02: Just like you haven't shown that you can do it before, so like what makes you think?
55:01
SPEAKER_02: Kind of thing.
55:02
SPEAKER_02: But then I think I've also had times I've been pretty optimistic with stuff.
55:06
SPEAKER_02: Like, oh I doubt I can do it, but I'll give it a try.
55:08
SPEAKER_02: I think that's the best thing to think.
55:10
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that I've just never really thought it's just really interesting to think about it like that, the way you put it.
55:17
SPEAKER_00: I just always think like every every kind of negative every negative kind of uh concept, I see a kind of yin yang thing, yin yang, which is like it's always got a flip side.
55:31
SPEAKER_00: I just I just see things as like as signals to then direct myself back to two things, and that's I and it's just to come about on the bike, on the what bike over years and years.
55:42
SPEAKER_00: So much doubt.
55:43
SPEAKER_00: So much doubt of like, oh I've overcooked this, I've gone too hard, like I just haven't fueled enough.
55:48
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
55:48
SPEAKER_00: Um and that my my mind makes up all these good great persuasive arguments and stuff.
55:53
SPEAKER_02: It's for safety, inevitably, isn't it?
55:55
SPEAKER_02: Like your mind's really trying to protect yourself, but 100%.
55:59
SPEAKER_02: Sometimes it's not.
56:00
SPEAKER_00: It's trying to protect you and your body and understandably.
56:03
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
56:03
SPEAKER_00: Um and it's also probably a you know a conditioned thing that has worked in the past.
56:07
SPEAKER_00: Fight or flight.
56:08
SPEAKER_00: The doubt has served you, yeah.
56:10
SPEAKER_00: And evolutionary has probably served us, like you say.
56:12
SPEAKER_00: Kind of fight or flight.
56:14
SPEAKER_02: It's like I doubt that I doubt I doubt that line's just gonna let me walk past him.
56:19
SPEAKER_02: Probably got to go the other way.
56:20
SPEAKER_00: There you go.
56:21
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, a doubt that I could take on the line, probably for the best then.
56:24
SPEAKER_02: Gonna walk the other way.
56:25
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
56:26
SPEAKER_00: And I think it's the bet the best thing about um overcoming doubts in a in a environment like let's say the gym, a safe environment, or on something which is low impact for me, like a cross-trainer or a bike or a ski urg or whatever, is that you just really get to understand how it manifests in like in real time, and the awareness, you then welcome it.
56:49
SPEAKER_00: Like I I love, I then chase doubt.
56:52
SPEAKER_00: So I go to a point in a session where if I'm not doubting myself, then I'm not pushing hard enough.
56:58
SPEAKER_02: Ooh, champion.
57:01
SPEAKER_00: So then it's like, okay, have I got a lot to give?
57:04
SPEAKER_00: Where it's like, well, my mind is well positive at the moment.
57:08
SPEAKER_00: I'm saying, yeah, I can do it easy.
57:10
SPEAKER_00: Then, you know, I probably probably should push a bit harder.
57:14
SPEAKER_00: And then as soon as I get that, oh actually, oh dear, here we go.
57:18
SPEAKER_00: Like, this is actually starting to hurt.
57:20
SPEAKER_00: I don't think I can do this.
57:21
SPEAKER_00: Then at that point, I'm like, right, I know I'm in exactly the right spot.
57:24
SPEAKER_01: You pull a rock when he goes, shut up, bitch.
57:28
SPEAKER_01: And then just keep going.
57:30
SPEAKER_00: And then keep pushing, keep heading.
57:31
SPEAKER_00: Keep pushing, keep pushing.
57:32
SPEAKER_01: Um that's why we've got this problem.
57:36
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, literally.
57:37
SPEAKER_01: Well, that's it.
57:38
SPEAKER_00: It's it's important to say that those sort of like doubts is you do have to think, you know, is it gonna cause like actual physical harm?
57:45
SPEAKER_02: I'm doubting myself, but my knee is also hurting quite a bit, so it probably should stop.
57:49
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, exactly.
57:50
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, which is why I kind of I have my my playground of all of these like experiences and concepts is on something which is low impact and low risk.
58:00
SPEAKER_00: Yes.
58:00
SPEAKER_00: And so I can determine whether it is purely mental, like, or physical.
58:05
SPEAKER_00: Um yeah, so that is doubt.
58:08
SPEAKER_00: That's doubt.
58:16
SPEAKER_02: That's doubt.
58:17
SPEAKER_02: There you go.
58:18
SPEAKER_02: That's doubt for you.
58:19
SPEAKER_02: Um doubt fire.
58:21
SPEAKER_00: Well that is good.
58:22
SPEAKER_00: Charlotte, thank you for hosting me today.
58:24
SPEAKER_02: Charlie, no, thank you for those poses of wisdom.
58:28
SPEAKER_02: I really, really, I genuinely really enjoy talking about that.
58:31
SPEAKER_02: Sometimes I really did.
58:35
SPEAKER_02: I felt like I, yeah, I was listening to it properly, which was nice.
58:39
SPEAKER_02: That's unreal.
58:40
SPEAKER_02: No way.
58:40
SPEAKER_02: It makes a change, doesn't it?
58:42
SPEAKER_02: You say, what's your opinion on this, Charlie?
58:44
SPEAKER_01: Um let me just think about that for a second.
58:48
SPEAKER_00: Oh I feel I feel heard and seen now.
58:51
SPEAKER_01: It's just what I do, mate.
58:52
SPEAKER_01: It's just what I do.
58:54
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58:55
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