Latest / True Crime and Wine Time / Denise Daneault & Laureen Rahn _ Missing in New Hampshire _ S2 E49
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- 0:00Speaker 1: So so I guess it would help if I would
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- 2:33Speaker 1: new episode of Dearest Mother's Darkest Secrets. And tonight, we're
- 2:38Speaker 1: covering the disturbing case of Kenesha Berry and the children
- 2:43Speaker 1: whose stories finally exposed a secret that had remained buried
- 2:48Speaker 1: for years. So join me tonight here only on our
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- 2:55Speaker 1: Darkest Secrets. Because sometimes the person a child should be
- 3:00Speaker 1: safest with is the person hiding the darkest secrets. And guys,
- 3:06Speaker 1: Dearest Mothers is hard sometimes to cover, but I think
- 3:10Speaker 1: it's very important. Sorry, guys, I am still drinking my
- 3:16Speaker 1: hot tea. Now, today we are headed to New Hampshire,
- 3:21Speaker 1: which is known as the Granite State, which is a
- 3:24Speaker 1: nickname inspired by its extensive granite formations and historic quarrying industry.
- 3:31Speaker 1: It is also home to Mount Washington, the highest peak
- 3:34Speaker 1: in the northeastern United States, where notoriously unpredicted weather has
- 3:40Speaker 1: helped make the mountains famous far beyond New England. Now,
- 3:46Speaker 1: as of today, there are 60 active missing person cases
- 3:52Speaker 1: in New Hampshire. And guys, that is 60 families, friends,
- 3:57Speaker 1: loved ones, wondering every day where their loved one is.
- 4:02Speaker 1: So we're going to do our part by continuing to
- 4:05Speaker 1: share their loved one's stories. Now, our first case today
- 4:10Speaker 1: is Denise Ann Denault. She was 25 years old when
- 4:16Speaker 1: she disappeared from Manchester, New Hampshire on June 8th, 1980.
- 4:21Speaker 1: Denise was a divorced mother of two young sons and
- 4:26Speaker 1: lived with a roommate in the 300 block of Hayward
- 4:29Speaker 1: Street in Manchester. Now, Denise was a white woman who
- 4:34Speaker 1: stood between five foot five inches and five feet six
- 4:39Speaker 1: inches tall, and she weighed about 135 pounds. Now, she
- 4:41Speaker 1: had blondish brown hair and green eyes. Now, her maiden
- 4:49Speaker 1: name was LaVoy. When Denise was last seen, she was
- 4:53Speaker 1: wearing a brown print skirt. Now, during the early morning
- 4:58Speaker 1: hours of June 8th, Denise had been out at a
- 5:01Speaker 1: private social club in downtown Manchester when around 1.30 a.m.,
- 5:08Speaker 1: Denise left the club and she told friends that she
- 5:11Speaker 1: was going to a party. Sadly, this is the last
- 5:16Speaker 1: time Denise was seen or heard from again. She left
- 5:21Speaker 1: behind her two young sons, and those who knew her
- 5:24Speaker 1: said it was completely out of character for her to
- 5:28Speaker 1: leave without any warning. She was a devoted mother. But
- 5:33Speaker 1: Denise's disappearance becomes even more unsettling when we look at
- 5:39Speaker 1: what else was happening in her Manchester neighborhood around that time. Now,
- 5:45Speaker 1: just six weeks before Denise disappeared, 14-year-old Lauren and Ron
- 5:51Speaker 1: vanished from her home on Merrimack Street, which is only
- 5:55Speaker 1: about two blocks from where Denise lived. Now, despite the
- 6:00Speaker 1: significance in their ages, I'm going to say Denise and
- 6:04Speaker 1: Laureen closely resembled one another. I could see how somebody
- 6:10Speaker 1: would say, oh, that's a type, but no. there has
- 6:13Speaker 1: never been any reports from law enforcement that their disappearances
- 6:18Speaker 1: were connected. Now, there was also another person living very
- 6:24Speaker 1: close to Denise at the time, and that was Terry
- 6:27Speaker 1: Petter Rasmussen, who is the suspected serial killer connected to
- 6:32Speaker 1: Bear Brook murders. He was living just a few doors
- 6:36Speaker 1: away from Denise on Hayward Street, and at the time
- 6:40Speaker 1: of Denise's disappearance, Terry was using the name Bob Evans,
- 6:45Speaker 1: which is just one of the numerous false identities he
- 6:49Speaker 1: used during his life. Now, Terry later pled guilty to
- 6:54Speaker 1: murdering his wife in California in 2003. He died in 2010. Now,
- 7:00Speaker 1: law enforcement says they've not found any connection that he
- 7:06Speaker 1: is related to Denise's case, happened to be living in
- 7:10Speaker 1: the same area. Now, for decades, Denise's case has remained unsolved.
- 7:17Speaker 1: But investigators eventually returned their attention to an area in
- 7:22Speaker 1: Manchester as they searched for evidence that might finally explain
- 7:27Speaker 1: what happened to her. Now, in November 2017, law enforcement
- 7:33Speaker 1: conducted a multi-day search of a wooded area behind public
- 7:37Speaker 1: housing there on Kimbrell Street. Now, authorities said that the
- 7:42Speaker 1: search was prompted by information that had accumulated during the investigation. Then,
- 7:50Speaker 1: in May of 2018, investigators returned. The New Hampshire Attorney
- 7:55Speaker 1: General's Office announced that personnel from the Manchester Police Department
- 8:00Speaker 1: and the FBI would once again search the area behind
- 8:06Speaker 1: that same address on Kimball Street for evidence connected to
- 8:09Speaker 1: Denise's disappearance. Guys, I could not find any more information
- 8:17Speaker 1: about what they were looking for, what the tip was. Now,
- 8:22Speaker 1: during the November search, docs had reportedly identified certain areas
- 8:27Speaker 1: of interest, but that's all. Okay, so they researched those
- 8:31Speaker 1: area in May. Now, authorities have never publicly announced whether
- 8:37Speaker 1: anything significant was recovered during the search. A lot of
- 8:40Speaker 1: times they like to keep that stuff close to their chest,
- 8:43Speaker 1: even though people like me want to know all the details, okay? Now,
- 8:47Speaker 1: more than four decades after Denise walked out of that
- 8:51Speaker 1: Manchester social club, there is still no publicly known answer
- 8:55Speaker 1: to the most important question. Where is Denise Denault? She
- 9:01Speaker 1: was a 25-year-old mother with two young sons. And she
- 9:06Speaker 1: told people she was headed to a party. She's never
- 9:09Speaker 1: been seen from again. Don't know if she showed up
- 9:12Speaker 1: to the party. Nobody's reported that they saw her. Now,
- 9:16Speaker 1: if you have any information about the disappearance of Denise
- 9:19Speaker 1: Ann Denault, please contact the Manchester Police Department at 603-668-8711.
- 9:28Speaker 1: And guys, her family, especially her two children, deserve to
- 9:34Speaker 1: know what happened to her. So if you know something,
- 9:37Speaker 1: please report that information, okay? Well, hello, Lainey. Welcome in.
- 9:43Speaker 1: It's nice to see you here. I hope you're having
- 9:46Speaker 1: a wonderful Monday. Now, guys, if you know of a
- 9:51Speaker 1: person or you have a loved one who's missing and
- 9:54Speaker 1: you're interested in having their story featured on an upcoming episode,
- 9:58Speaker 1: or maybe even join us for a live interview, contact
- 10:02Speaker 1: us by emailing me, terri at tcwtmedia.com, or you can
- 10:07Speaker 1: contact us through any of our social media accounts, okay?
- 10:11Speaker 1: Either the True Crime and Wine Time, Midday Missing, or
- 10:14Speaker 1: Terri True Crime. Now, our next case is one we
- 10:18Speaker 1: mentioned when we were talking about Denise. Lorraine Ann Ron
- 10:23Speaker 1: was just 14 years old when she disappeared from her
- 10:27Speaker 1: home in Manchester, New Hampshire, during the early morning hours
- 10:32Speaker 1: of April 27th, 1980. And more than 46 years later,
- 10:38Speaker 1: there is still no answer to what happened to this
- 10:41Speaker 1: teenager who vanished from her own apartment, leaving her clothes, money,
- 10:47Speaker 1: and personal belongings. Okay. And as I mentioned, she went
- 10:51Speaker 1: missing two weeks before Denise did. So now Lauren was
- 11:02Speaker 1: born on April 3rd, 1966. She had just celebrated her
- 11:07Speaker 1: 14th birthday a few weeks before she disappeared. She was
- 11:11Speaker 1: five foot four inches tall, weighed about a wee 90 pounds,
- 11:15Speaker 1: She had brown hair and blue eyes. Now, she did
- 11:18Speaker 1: have a light brown birthmark beneath each eye and a
- 11:22Speaker 1: prominent scar on her upper leg from an earlier injury. Now,
- 11:27Speaker 1: when she disappeared, she was wearing a white v-neck sweater,
- 11:30Speaker 1: a blue plaid blouse, blue jeans, and brown shoes. She
- 11:35Speaker 1: was also wearing a heart-shaped gold ring and a silver
- 11:39Speaker 1: and blue necklace. Now, Lorraine lived with her mother, Judith,
- 11:45Speaker 1: in a third-floor apartment on Merrimack Street in Manchester. She
- 11:51Speaker 1: attended Parkside Junior High School, where she earned good grades.
- 11:54Speaker 1: She was a good student. Lorraine enjoyed singing and dancing,
- 11:59Speaker 1: and she dreamed of someday becoming an actress. Now, in
- 12:04Speaker 1: April of 1980, Lorraine was enjoying spring break when she
- 12:08Speaker 1: asked her mother for something mini-14-year-old fun. probably would have wanted, okay,
- 12:14Speaker 1: a little bit of independence. Now, Judith's boyfriend at the
- 12:18Speaker 1: time was a professional tennis player. And Judith planned to
- 12:23Speaker 1: accompany him to a tennis tournament. Lauren normally went with him.
- 12:29Speaker 1: But this time she asked if she could stay home.
- 12:31Speaker 1: Judith said, you know, she's 14. She agreed. Okay. And
- 12:36Speaker 1: on the evening of April 26, Lauren had friends at
- 12:39Speaker 1: the apartment. And guys, Please remember, this was back in
- 12:44Speaker 1: the 80s, okay? My parents left me home, okay, when
- 12:49Speaker 1: I was 14. It was the 80s. The world's a
- 12:51Speaker 1: lot crazier now, okay? Now, like I said, that evening,
- 12:57Speaker 1: Lauren had friends over, okay? She was spending the evening
- 13:02Speaker 1: with female friends around her age and a male friend. Now,
- 13:06Speaker 1: the teenager reportedly spent part of the evening drinking beer
- 13:10Speaker 1: and wine. And at some point during the night, the
- 13:13Speaker 1: male friend heard voices in the hallway outside the apartment.
- 13:18Speaker 1: Believing Judith might be returning home and concerned that he
- 13:22Speaker 1: could get into trouble, he left through the back door. Now,
- 13:25Speaker 1: he later told investigators that he heard Lauren lock the
- 13:30Speaker 1: door behind him. Lainey, you babysat earlier than 14. I did, too.
- 13:37Speaker 1: I did, too. So. I don't know. The times were
- 13:42Speaker 1: different back then. Now, Lauren's female friends eventually went to
- 13:47Speaker 1: sleep in Lauren's bed. And Lauren took a pillow and
- 13:51Speaker 1: a blanket and left the bedroom to sleep on the couch.
- 13:54Speaker 1: And it was an ordinary enough decision that there would
- 13:57Speaker 1: have been no reason for her friend to believe that
- 14:00Speaker 1: something was wrong. But sometimes after Lauren left the bedroom,
- 14:06Speaker 1: something happened and she disappeared. Okay. Now, Judith returned to
- 14:12Speaker 1: the Merrimack Street apartment at approximately 1.15 that morning. She
- 14:17Speaker 1: found the back door open and the front door unsecured.
- 14:22Speaker 1: Inside the apartment, Judith found a sleeping, a girl sleeping
- 14:25Speaker 1: in Lauren's bed. Wasn't Lauren. It was her friend. And
- 14:30Speaker 1: Lauren was nowhere inside the apartment. Guys, I have to
- 14:36Speaker 1: tell you that I would be in a tizzy. I mean,
- 14:41Speaker 1: oh man, I would be hysterical. Now, police were called
- 14:48Speaker 1: and approximately 3.45 a.m. on April 27th, Lauren was reported missing. Now,
- 14:56Speaker 1: investigators found no signs of a struggle inside the residence
- 15:00Speaker 1: and there was something else that stood out. Lauren had
- 15:04Speaker 1: apparently taken virtually nothing with her. Her clothing, her money,
- 15:10Speaker 1: All of her personal stuff remained behind. Back then, we
- 15:13Speaker 1: didn't have cell phones, okay? And those circumstances have led
- 15:17Speaker 1: investigators to believe Lauren may have initially left the apartment willingly,
- 15:23Speaker 1: possibly with someone she knew, and that she may have
- 15:27Speaker 1: intended to return shortly afterwards, but she never returned. Man,
- 15:34Speaker 1: that is scary, but I have lots of questions. Why
- 15:37Speaker 1: is the back door open? Why is the front door unlocked?
- 15:40Speaker 1: And guys, I just have to say, if somebody comes
- 15:44Speaker 1: into my home when I was 14 and had a gun,
- 15:47Speaker 1: there wouldn't have been a struggle. I would have just
- 15:49Speaker 1: been like, okay, keep your mouth shut and go with them.
- 15:52Speaker 1: Maybe would have screamed, but I wouldn't have fought back,
- 15:55Speaker 1: I don't think. Now, as the investigation continued, strange details
- 16:01Speaker 1: began to emerge, okay? months after Lauren disappeared, Judith reportedly
- 16:07Speaker 1: discovered three telephone calls charged to her account that originated
- 16:13Speaker 1: in California on October 1st, 1980. Now, Judith said she
- 16:19Speaker 1: had no friends or relatives in California, and to the
- 16:23Speaker 1: best of her knowledge, Lauren had no connection to the state.
- 16:27Speaker 1: Two of the calls have been reported to be associated
- 16:30Speaker 1: with motels in Santa Monica and in Santa Ana, while
- 16:35Speaker 1: another was connected to a hotline intended for teenagers seeking
- 16:40Speaker 1: information about sexual issues. That is all scary and concerning. Now,
- 16:50Speaker 1: for a mother who was desperately searching for her missing daughter,
- 16:54Speaker 1: those unexplained calls raised an obvious and terrifying question. Could
- 16:59Speaker 1: Lauren somehow have ended up thousands of miles away in California. Now,
- 17:06Speaker 1: a private investigator working on Judith's behalf reportedly traveled to California,
- 17:12Speaker 1: investigated the locations connected to the calls, but no evidence
- 17:16Speaker 1: was ever established that Lauren had been at those locations
- 17:21Speaker 1: or that she is the person who placed the calls. Now,
- 17:26Speaker 1: there's also another very important distinction between when discussing the
- 17:31Speaker 1: California calls, okay? Years later, Manchester Police Detective Lucas Hobbs
- 17:37Speaker 1: said the official police file did not contain documentation of
- 17:43Speaker 1: those telephone calls. Okay. And says if the information was
- 17:50Speaker 1: uncovered by a private investigator, Detective Hobbs said it apparently
- 17:54Speaker 1: had not made its way into the Manchester Police Department's
- 17:59Speaker 1: investigative file I wonder why that is. So while the
- 18:03Speaker 1: calls have become a well-known part of Lauren's story and
- 18:07Speaker 1: were reported by her family, they have not been established
- 18:12Speaker 1: as confirmed or any evidence connecting Lauren to California per
- 18:17Speaker 1: the police. Now, those were not the only mysterious telephone
- 18:23Speaker 1: calls associated with Lauren's disappearance. Nope, there is more. Judith
- 18:33Speaker 1: later recalled receiving strange calls beginning after Lauren vanished. And
- 18:39Speaker 1: according to Judith, the calls came at approximately 3.45 in
- 18:43Speaker 1: the morning. But when she answered, no one spoke. Then
- 18:48Speaker 1: Judith said similar calls continued around Christmas for several years
- 18:54Speaker 1: and eventually stopped after she changed her telephone number. Now,
- 18:59Speaker 1: Detective Hobbs later said those calls were also not documented
- 19:04Speaker 1: in their official police file. Now, guys, I have to say,
- 19:08Speaker 1: I am not blaming her mom at all. I personally
- 19:12Speaker 1: wouldn't have changed my number because getting a call and
- 19:16Speaker 1: being silent on Christmas, I would have wanted to hold
- 19:20Speaker 1: on to hope and belief that it was my daughter.
- 19:24Speaker 1: But that's just me because I'm that way. Now, The
- 19:29Speaker 1: male friend who had been inside the apartment on the
- 19:33Speaker 1: night Lauren disappeared died by suicide in 1985. Authorities have
- 19:39Speaker 1: said he was never considered a suspect in Lauren's disappearance.
- 19:46Speaker 1: So where did the calls come from? They do not
- 19:49Speaker 1: tell us. where the calls came from because they didn't
- 19:51Speaker 1: charge the calls to her mom's account. I'm assuming the
- 19:55Speaker 1: private investigator couldn't have gotten a hold of them. I'm
- 19:58Speaker 1: not sure. So I don't know. Now, like I said,
- 20:03Speaker 1: just weeks after Lauren vanished, 25-year-old Denise Denault who we
- 20:08Speaker 1: just talked about, disappeared from Manchester. Guys, she lived only
- 20:12Speaker 1: about two blocks away. Okay, I'm gonna, sorry, the timing,
- 20:17Speaker 1: geographic proximity naturally raises questions for me. Plus, I think
- 20:25Speaker 1: they have some similar looks, but that's just me. Now,
- 20:29Speaker 1: these two cases do remain totally separate, okay? Now, as
- 20:35Speaker 1: the years became decades later, Lauren's family continued waiting. Her aunt,
- 20:41Speaker 1: Jo Beth Swanson, told Manchester Ink Link in 2020 that
- 20:46Speaker 1: some members of the family continue to hold out and
- 20:51Speaker 1: hold on to the hope that Lauren might still be alive.
- 20:55Speaker 1: Jo Beth had even kept the same telephone number she
- 20:59Speaker 1: had when Lauren disappeared, holding on to hope that one
- 21:03Speaker 1: day her niece might call. Lauren would be 60 years
- 21:08Speaker 1: old today. And the teenager who enjoyed singing and dancing
- 21:12Speaker 1: and dreamed about becoming an actress has now been missing
- 21:16Speaker 1: for more than 46 years. But despite the passage of time,
- 21:23Speaker 1: her investigation remains open and police say it has not
- 21:28Speaker 1: been forgotten. In just May of this year, the New
- 21:33Speaker 1: Hampshire Cold Case Unit issued a renewed public appeal for
- 21:36Speaker 1: information in Lauren's disappearance. Investigators reveal they are now evaluating
- 21:43Speaker 1: physical evidence for advanced DNA testing and other modern forensic
- 21:48Speaker 1: applications that didn't exist back in 1980. So guys, there's
- 21:53Speaker 1: some hope, okay? Now, authorities are particularly interested in hearing
- 21:58Speaker 1: from people who lived in or around Merrick Street, Merrimack
- 22:03Speaker 1: Street in April of 1980, as well as any of
- 22:08Speaker 1: Lauren's former classmates, friends, anyone she may have socialized with, okay? Now,
- 22:15Speaker 1: the Senior Assistant Attorney General R. Christopher Knowles, Chief of
- 22:21Speaker 1: the New Hampshire's Cold Case Unit, acknowledged that relationships and
- 22:25Speaker 1: loyalties can change over the course of more than four decades.
- 22:29Speaker 1: That's right. Investigators believe someone may still possess the missing
- 22:34Speaker 1: pieces of information that could finally explain what happened to Lauren. Now,
- 22:42Speaker 1: as of today, Lauren is still listed as a missing person,
- 22:45Speaker 1: and the state does say that foul play is suspected.
- 22:50Speaker 1: And part of me wants to say, you think? But
- 22:52Speaker 1: that's just me. Now, they are still searching, and the
- 22:57Speaker 1: family wants to know what happened. If you have any
- 23:02Speaker 1: information about the disappearances of Lauren and Ron, please contact
- 23:07Speaker 1: the New Hampshire Cold Case Unit tip line at 603-271-2663
- 23:11Speaker 1: or the Manchester Police Department at 603-668-8711. Lainey says, my
- 23:27Speaker 1: cousin lives there and is two years older. She lived
- 23:30Speaker 1: there since 1980. I'll ask if she knows anything. That
- 23:34Speaker 1: would be great. And if you're on social media, please remember, okay,
- 23:39Speaker 1: go join our Midday Missing Facebook group. If you're on Facebook,
- 23:43Speaker 1: because that's where we post all of our missing person
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- 23:53Speaker 1: also post them on all of my other social media
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- 24:08Speaker 1: recognize the case, might tickle a little memory, and it
- 24:12Speaker 1: might be that information that can make a difference. So please,
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- 24:46Speaker 1: of Sarah Hartsfield. Okay. This is part eight. If you
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- 24:57Speaker 1: we're going to continue hearing from witnesses who took the stand.
- 25:02Speaker 1: And I believe this week we start hearing from the children.
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- 25:37Speaker 1: Thank you, Lainey, for sharing that. Oh my gosh, that
- 25:41Speaker 1: would be amazing if they knew them, you know, or
- 25:44Speaker 1: have any information. Now, I do want to thank you
- 25:47Speaker 1: all for joining me today. It means a lot to me.
- 25:50Speaker 1: It mostly means a lot to the families. And just maybe, okay,
- 25:57Speaker 1: just maybe you have information or you will remember something.
- 26:02Speaker 1: But as I always like to say, until next time,
- 26:06Speaker 1: stay safe, stay aware. If you see something, say something.
- 26:11Speaker 1: And let's help these families either bring their loved ones
- 26:15Speaker 1: home or get answers. Bye, guys. I'm going to take
- 26:27Speaker 1: a look at this. I'm going to look at this.