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Fictional Women Around the World: Mara Jade (Part 2) · Stuff Mom Never Told You

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  Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie and Samantha, and welcome to stuff.
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  Speaker 1: I never told you a protection of iHeart Radio. And
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  Speaker 1: if I sounded really excited, then I was introducing this
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  Speaker 1: because I am. I'm like raring to go. You're kiddy
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  Speaker 1: at this point. I know, I know, I'm expecting this
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  Speaker 1: one to be so fun, but it brought back to
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  Speaker 1: just so many memories that I had reading these books
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  Speaker 1: as kids. So we are this is our part two
• 0:35
  Speaker 1: of our fictional Women around the World. I kind of
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  Speaker 1: usurped to this month. It was an accident. I'm good
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  Speaker 1: with that. Let's go uh on Mara Jaide on mar Jade,
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  Speaker 1: and we are recording them back to back. So if
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  Speaker 1: it sounds like, yeah, we're just steam I'm steaming ahead,
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  Speaker 1: well so they have the patient patiently listens. It is true, yes,
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  Speaker 1: because I'm so excited to talk about this. But do
• 1:01
  Speaker 1: check out Part one where we talked about mar Jade's
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  Speaker 1: the introduction to her character, the popularity of her character.
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  Speaker 1: She is this kind of assassin, spy, emperor's hand, like
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  Speaker 1: working for the Emperor, going to Jedi night, going to
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  Speaker 1: Luke Skywalker's wife, which we're going to talk about in
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  Speaker 1: this one. She's just a really fascinating character. She does
• 1:26
  Speaker 1: not currently exist in my mind. There's been some teasing
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  Speaker 1: that she might in Disney canon, but she was in
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  Speaker 1: over ninety things in the Extended Universe or Legends Cannon,
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  Speaker 1: which is just basically everything that happened before Disney. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: all right, so let's get into it right after. So
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  Speaker 1: we just ended with they had this huge fight. Mar
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  Speaker 1: Jade killed Luke with two U Skywalker the Clone. She
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  Speaker 1: fulfilled the Emperor's last order of kill Luke Skywalker. Luke
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  Speaker 1: has given her his father's lightsaber. They go their separate ways,
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  Speaker 1: but Maria Jaide did train under a Jedi. After renouncing
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  Speaker 1: the dark side of the Force and off and on
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  Speaker 1: again with Luke, she joined back up with Card, who
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  Speaker 1: was the smuggler she grew really close to and worked
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  Speaker 1: with and occasionally provided aid to the New Republic, which
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  Speaker 1: is what rose after the Empire. She helped in several
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  Speaker 1: pivotal battles to beat back the remnant Empire and other
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  Speaker 1: evils in the galaxy, including her previous master who are
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  Speaker 1: just mentioned, who did fall to the dark side. She
• 2:35
  Speaker 1: went to surrender to him. She convinced him to come
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  Speaker 1: back there was a doplocking of herself. I swear, I
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  Speaker 1: know I am glossing over so much. I know it's
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  Speaker 1: a two parter and you're all affag at me, but
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  Speaker 1: I really there's a lot that happened. But anyway, and
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  Speaker 1: when Osidius was successfully rebirthed as a comb which is
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  Speaker 1: what they're doing right now by the way in and
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  Speaker 1: all the new Disney stuff, she refused to return to
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  Speaker 1: his service, and that caused him to seek revenge on
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  Speaker 1: her for betraying him. A lot of spy stuff happened,
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  Speaker 1: including at one point going undercover. She went undercover and
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  Speaker 1: pretended she was in a relationship with Lando Calrisian. She
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  Speaker 1: saved her, helped Luke a bunch of times, and finally
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  Speaker 1: came to terms with the depths of the empire's lives,
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  Speaker 1: the emperor's life, specifically that she was not the only
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  Speaker 1: emperor's hands, which she had been taught had grown up
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  Speaker 1: to believe, and then she sought to get her own revenge,
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  Speaker 1: though she did end up helping a lot of brainwashed
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  Speaker 1: soldiers that she had once worked with, which was this
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  Speaker 1: mission that once again had her working with Luke. So
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  Speaker 1: she did like she wanted to get revenge, and then
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  Speaker 1: she saw people in a similar situation as her decided
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  Speaker 1: to help instead. After learning of a pretty serious threat,
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  Speaker 1: mar Jaide went to warn Luke about it and finally
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  Speaker 1: emitted she liked seeing him sometimes. Maybe. Luke asked her
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  Speaker 1: to stay for dinner. When another Jedi Callista Ming, asked
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  Speaker 1: mar Jaid if she'd ever been interested in Luke. Mar
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  Speaker 1: jd who was aware that Ming was in love with Luke,
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  Speaker 1: told her she'd once wanted nothing more than to kill him,
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  Speaker 1: and after that they were booking of like no hard
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  Speaker 1: Feelings cool. Luke loved to me too, but she eventually
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  Speaker 1: left him to go on her own journey. She hers
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  Speaker 1: backstory is pretty wild too, She's like a force ghost.
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  Speaker 1: It's later mar Jade joined forces with Han and Huey
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  Speaker 1: to save Luke from this dude who was determined to
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  Speaker 1: kill him, and she was captured but was able to
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  Speaker 1: escape using all of her spine assassin skills and she
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  Speaker 1: scored a sweet ship that she named Jade's Fire out
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  Speaker 1: of it good name. It is a good name. Then
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  Speaker 1: she was captured again alongside Leah and the two had
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  Speaker 1: to work together, though they didn't really trust each other,
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  Speaker 1: but they were able to escape and kind of another
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  Speaker 1: mutual respect came out of it. They were later captured again,
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  Speaker 1: while mar jd attempted to persuade their captors to work
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  Speaker 1: with them, something she did manage to do after Luke
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  Speaker 1: showed up and mar Jade was like, you know what,
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  Speaker 1: we make a good team. Maybe we should work together
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  Speaker 1: more often. I do like that, Like she gets captured
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  Speaker 1: all the time, but she usually gets herself out of it.
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  Speaker 1: Or Luke gets captured and she helps him out, and
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  Speaker 1: the balance equals because gets captured a lot. Speaking of
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  Speaker 1: he was captured by pirates while investigating a new imperial
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  Speaker 1: threat and mar j came to his rescue. Then she
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  Speaker 1: injured herself on another mission and Luke rescued her. The
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  Speaker 1: force convinced them to infiltrate a fortress together, and while
• 5:49
  Speaker 1: they were traveling underground passages to do so, they had
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  Speaker 1: a lot of conversations. They hashed a lot of stuff out.
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  Speaker 1: She confessed that she wished he'd paid her more attention
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  Speaker 1: when she visited his Jeda academy, and that she thought
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  Speaker 1: he needed to stop trying to do everything himself because
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  Speaker 1: he felt so guilty for briefly working with the reborn Emperor.
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  Speaker 1: She was like, look, I'm trying to do better, but
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  Speaker 1: you got to calm down. Then Maria j gets shot
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  Speaker 1: and Luke puts her in a healing chance, and that's
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  Speaker 1: when he's like, oh no, I'm in love with her. However,
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  Speaker 1: it is not smooth sailing when she wakes up. They
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  Speaker 1: thought about why she was so resistant to devoting herself
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  Speaker 1: to helping others, and or like, why she wouldn't admit
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  Speaker 1: that she wanted to or did already. She asked about
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  Speaker 1: Big Luke asked about Lando, but they talked it out
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  Speaker 1: and they lowered their mental barriers and were like, in
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  Speaker 1: the force, doing that hug thing you can do. Just
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  Speaker 1: let me live my best life. They finally infiltrated the
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  Speaker 1: fortress and mar Jade was able to learn more about
• 7:01
  Speaker 1: Thron's master plan, and she and Luke had a few
• 7:05
  Speaker 1: narrow escapes that culminated in her using this becon call
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  Speaker 1: on her ship that had it crash into the enemy's
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  Speaker 1: hangar to prevent them from getting a message out, which
• 7:15
  Speaker 1: was really devastating because she loved that ship. And she
• 7:17
  Speaker 1: joined minds with Luke to fight off their attackers. However,
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  Speaker 1: they were trapped into space filling rapidly with water, and
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  Speaker 1: Luke revealed his feelings from march Ade and asked her
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  Speaker 1: to marry him, and she said yes. And I cannot
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  Speaker 1: stress enough how on brand this is for them. Here's
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  Speaker 1: the quote, Mara, will you marry me? You mean if
• 7:38
  Speaker 1: we get out of here alive? I mean regardless. Oh However,
• 7:43
  Speaker 1: working together they were able to save themselves from drowning.
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  Speaker 1: They both got knocked about, but when they woke up,
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  Speaker 1: Luke told her, I love you, Maara. With politics, they
• 7:52
  Speaker 1: tried to go on vacation after all of this, but
• 7:55
  Speaker 1: word of their marriage got out and it was viewed
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  Speaker 1: as a symbol of new republic unity with the Empire.
• 8:03
  Speaker 1: Then C three PO got involved, wanting to plan this
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  Speaker 1: huge way, which was really not what maraa Jade wanted.
• 8:11
  Speaker 1: Designers were competing to design her dress, but Maria ended
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  Speaker 1: up going with a woman she found on streets who
• 8:18
  Speaker 1: had been fired by her boss. Luke and Mara did
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  Speaker 1: have a more private Jedi wedding soon after, at the
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  Speaker 1: newly established Jedi training grounds in Corroissant. Coroissant is kind
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  Speaker 1: of that big city planet where Damper lived, where the
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  Speaker 1: Jedi used to be based. Oh, they joined two halfs
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  Speaker 1: of a crystal together as a symbol of their union,
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  Speaker 1: but it was still not smooth sailing. She was not
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  Speaker 1: happy when she found out Luke had gotten in a
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  Speaker 1: bar fight at his bachelor party, and then she had
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  Speaker 1: a dream that Luke was corrupted by the dark Side
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  Speaker 1: and Palpatine had won. Meanwhile, maraa Jade and her bridesmaids,
• 8:56
  Speaker 1: including Leah, went to a spa. Oh my gosh, Oh,
• 9:02
  Speaker 1: they went to us ball, but they got bored and
• 9:04
  Speaker 1: went and challenged and kicked the asses of some dudes
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  Speaker 1: at this sport called sling ball. And they all unanimously
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  Speaker 1: decided not to tell Luke's bachelor party crew this since
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  Speaker 1: they'd given him given them such a hard time about
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  Speaker 1: fighting at the party. And then a bunch of Imperial
• 9:22
  Speaker 1: forces conspired to derail this wedding. Maria Jade was attacked,
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  Speaker 1: though she easily defeated her opponents, and an Imperial mof
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  Speaker 1: showed up at the ceremony right at the key part.
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  Speaker 1: Of course, Luke and his friends were able to shut
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  Speaker 1: them down. I think it was like multiple attacks. Then
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  Speaker 1: they did exchange vows, they exchanged rings, and they became
• 9:46
  Speaker 1: the Skywalkers. All On took them on their honeymoon location
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  Speaker 1: to on the falcon. He took them there. Here are
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  Speaker 1: some vows. Here's what Mara said. When I first met Luke,
• 9:58
  Speaker 1: I was under compulsion to kill him. Generally not a
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  Speaker 1: good sign for a lasting relationship. Such was his courage
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  Speaker 1: that he did not run and did not strike me.
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  Speaker 1: He accepted me as no one else had done before.
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  Speaker 1: Oh oh, and Luke gave her a fancy ship as
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  Speaker 1: a wedding present. Perfect. Yeah, yeah, I kind of wanted
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  Speaker 1: to talk about that, because it's hilarious that they have
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  Speaker 1: all like in a galaxy far far away, it's still
• 10:23
  Speaker 1: like our human gender normative, better normative weddings, wedding traditions.
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  Speaker 1: I tickled me when I was reading it. I remember
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  Speaker 1: reading this, but when I was a kid, I didn't
• 10:35
  Speaker 1: think twice about it. I was like, yeah, sure, that's
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  Speaker 1: what you do at a wedding. But now I'm like
• 10:39
  Speaker 1: they would to a spa. Nothing wrong with that. I
• 10:44
  Speaker 1: just thought it was kind of all right. The honeymoon
• 10:59
  Speaker 1: period had to end sometime, and a year later, Mara
• 11:03
  Speaker 1: was annoyed at how often and how much of Luke's
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  Speaker 1: time got snatched up by others to negotiate peace deals
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  Speaker 1: or provide aid. He did try to make it up
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  Speaker 1: to her with a second honeymoon, where she warned him
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  Speaker 1: not to call her a blushing bride. They for the
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  Speaker 1: most part settled teaching or searching out young for sensitives.
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  Speaker 1: She was definitely the one that was traveling more and
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  Speaker 1: he was staying on the planet and at this point teaching.
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  Speaker 1: But she did kind of decide to focus solely on
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  Speaker 1: her family in the Jedi like finding these young Jedi
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  Speaker 1: ringing them back. There are a lot of instances of
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  Speaker 1: them being her and Luca good team in the face
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  Speaker 1: of people and organizations constantly trying to capture them or
• 11:44
  Speaker 1: kill them. They went on a million adventures together. She
• 11:48
  Speaker 1: went on to train under Luke as I said, and
• 11:51
  Speaker 1: went on to take her niece Jana solo as her apprentice.
• 11:55
  Speaker 1: So in the EU, On and Leiah have Jason, Jana
• 11:58
  Speaker 1: and Anakin, and Jason and Jena are twins all right. So,
• 12:02
  Speaker 1: while on a mission, mar Jaide was infected with a
• 12:04
  Speaker 1: deadly bio weapon with the Force. She was able to
• 12:07
  Speaker 1: keep it from killing her, but there was no permanent cure.
• 12:10
  Speaker 1: She kept going on missions, but the disease got worse
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  Speaker 1: and worse and seemed to be connected to deteriorating planets.
• 12:18
  Speaker 1: Mar decided she wanted to have a child with Luke,
• 12:20
  Speaker 1: but she wanted to figure out what's going on with
• 12:23
  Speaker 1: her illness first, and there was a whole side plot
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  Speaker 1: that I forgot about where she was like, I might
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  Speaker 1: be infertile, and she tried to convince Luke to leave
• 12:31
  Speaker 1: her because of itivity was like, no, he refused. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: To that end, she took an ill advised cure that
• 12:40
  Speaker 1: seemed to do the trick and surprise, she's pregnant and
• 12:43
  Speaker 1: the forest tells her it's a boy. She had a
• 12:47
  Speaker 1: pretty rough pregnancy and it wasn't helped out by the
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  Speaker 1: anti Jedi movement in the Senate was trying to exile
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  Speaker 1: her and Leake and all the Jedi while trying to
• 12:58
  Speaker 1: escape potential arrest. She collapsed and it was revealed the
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  Speaker 1: meds that she had been taking for her illness had
• 13:04
  Speaker 1: caused placental toxic shock, putting the life of her child
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  Speaker 1: in danger. She stopped taking the meds and her condition
• 13:12
  Speaker 1: worsened to the point that she was near death. It
• 13:15
  Speaker 1: was only through joining minds with the child and Luke
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  Speaker 1: that they were able to rid her of the disease
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  Speaker 1: and save her life. They named their son Ben. He
• 13:23
  Speaker 1: was born into a lot of chaos and Anakin Solo
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  Speaker 1: han a LA's kid died in the battle that was
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  Speaker 1: happening around him. He was kidnapped, eventually rescued, but Jana
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  Speaker 1: and mar Jade ended their mentor apprenticeship relationship in the
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  Speaker 1: wake of their grief over Anakin. Also true bacatied. It
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  Speaker 1: was a very traumatic It was very traumatic. Yeah, oh yo.
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  Speaker 1: As mentioned, Marra was one of the founding members of
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  Speaker 1: the New Jedi Council. Luke began having visions of the
• 13:53
  Speaker 1: future that she was not in, and she made him
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  Speaker 1: promise to take care of their son if anything happened
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  Speaker 1: to her. She was extremely protective of their son, especially
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  Speaker 1: inland of the fact that he had cut himself off
• 14:05
  Speaker 1: of the force due to trauma as a baby. And
• 14:09
  Speaker 1: I am again glossing over so much here, But there
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  Speaker 1: was this evil force that tried to drive Luke and
• 14:15
  Speaker 1: mar aparts, implying Marrow was the reason that the evil
• 14:17
  Speaker 1: force existed in the first place, and that she is
• 14:19
  Speaker 1: somehow was responsible for it that she somehow was responsible
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  Speaker 1: for killing Luke's mother. However, it was all proven false,
• 14:29
  Speaker 1: but that didn't start yet another war from breaking out.
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  Speaker 1: On top of that, Nay uncovered a recording of a
• 14:35
  Speaker 1: young Darth Vader slash ankin Skywalker strangling Luke's mom Padme
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  Speaker 1: Maara Jade was disturbed when her nephew Jason, who had
• 14:45
  Speaker 1: been like a mentor to Ben, didn't seem to see
• 14:48
  Speaker 1: anything wrong with Anakin's actions. Side note, Jason was picked up.
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  Speaker 1: I'll talk about more later, but oh boy, he performed
• 14:58
  Speaker 1: a mind wipe on Ben. He showed Luke a vision
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  Speaker 1: of Maraa dying to try to turn him more to come,
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  Speaker 1: but ultimately Luke puts his faith in Maraa and they persevered.
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  Speaker 1: This time, though Maura was severely wounded. She was eventually
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  Speaker 1: killed by her nephew Jason, who she'd realized was a
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: burgeoning sith Lord already a sith Lord probably by that point.
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  Speaker 1: She decided he was too dangerous to live and ambushed him,
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  Speaker 1: and it was really brutal battle ensued. She almost had him,
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  Speaker 1: but he used the force to transform his face into
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  Speaker 1: Ben's face, and her split second of hesitation was enough
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  Speaker 1: for him to kill her. In her last moment, she
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: decided to leave her body behind instead of becoming one
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  Speaker 1: with the Force, so her family would have something to
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  Speaker 1: say goodbye to, but also so there would be evidence
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  Speaker 1: about what had happened, and she used the Force to
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: whisper to Ben and ruffle Luke's hair all least time
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  Speaker 1: Jason interrupted her funeral, and when he did, she finally
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: became one with the Force. Her body disappeared. He interrupted him,
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  Speaker 1: was like, I'm a darist depiciteboard now. Her force ghost
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  Speaker 1: occasionally popped up, giving hints not only to her murder,
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: but to the evil doings people should be paying attention to.
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  Speaker 1: Her last words were you think you've won, but Luke
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  Speaker 1: will crush you, and I refuse to let you destroy
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  Speaker 1: the future. From my Ben Zon Timothy's on, the original
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  Speaker 1: creator of mar Jade and the model mar j Aid
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  Speaker 1: was based on, who did a lot of her like
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: book shoots were not tuppy, not happy, to say the
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: least with the decision to kill her off. No, it's
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  Speaker 1: Zon actually said that he would come back and write
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  Speaker 1: more and ignore that whole thing ever happened with her
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  Speaker 1: in it. Ben became convinced Jason had killed his mother
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  Speaker 1: and plotted revenge, even going so far as to sacrifice
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  Speaker 1: innocence in his quest. Luke meanwhile, decided not to enact vengeance,
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: and it was Jana, Jason's twin, who eventually killed Jason.
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: Luke and Ben went on a quest to figure out
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  Speaker 1: why Jason fell. They encountered Mara's apparition, and she told
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  Speaker 1: him she regretted going after Jason with the intent of
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: killing him. She even saved Luke from the afterlife basically
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: it's a long story, but basically from killing himself. She
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: told him that she loved him but didn't want to
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: see him for some time. And just a side note,
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: George Lucas was once asked why Luke didn't get a
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: romantic interest, and he said something like you haven't seen
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  Speaker 1: the last three yet, implying that he would get one.
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  Speaker 1: But he later decided that he didn't really like the
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: whole mar Jade Luke Skywalker romance, saying Luke doesn't get married.
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: There's a whole famous Robot Chicken behind the scenes skit
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  Speaker 1: where he I hope is joking, threw a guy out
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  Speaker 1: for implying he created mar Jade. So I was telling you,
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  Speaker 1: I have a lot of thoughts. I tried not to
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: psychoanalyze George Lucas before this, but I think it has
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: to do with this thought some marriage, because Anakin marries
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  Speaker 1: Padme and look what happened, and he was like, Luke
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  Speaker 1: wouldn't do that because he's a better Jedi. There's a
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: whole debate about, like the issue is not the romantic
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  Speaker 1: attachment necessarily, but if you get married, there's kind of
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: like you have to put this person that's in the
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  Speaker 1: vow as you put them first above everything else, and
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: the Jedi has to put the galaxy above everything else.
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  Speaker 1: I could talk about that forever, but I've already been
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: going on and on about March, so I won't. All right,
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  Speaker 1: I did want to end with like Luke and mar
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: Jade are a hot messed together. Okay, there's like this
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: whole Vader aspect where mar Jaide doesn't like Vader, never
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: comes around to Vader, and that's Luke's dad, and I
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: bet his force ghost is behind himself, like Luke, why
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: of everybody? Why there's the Emperor aspect who's literally telling
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  Speaker 1: her to kill this person and looks kind of like, oh, I,
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: Luke's always kind of being like, I'm so sorry for
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  Speaker 1: what everything that happened to you. You don't have to
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  Speaker 1: kill me. We can just work together, and she'll just
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: she's just like, oh, I can't wait to kill you,
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  Speaker 1: like just kind of smiling at her, like, oh, you
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: don't have to do that. We don't do We can
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: figure this out. She calls him farm boy, which I
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  Speaker 1: think is funny. I also think Eleyah and Luke, at
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: least in the Legends universe, are attracted to adventure and
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: excitement and competence. You can fight about that how you will,
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  Speaker 1: but I think like somebody who's like really the they
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  Speaker 1: view is able to keep up with them in a partner.
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: So I have a couple of quotes, and then we're
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: reaching the end. Mara said, Darling, I love you. You are
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  Speaker 1: my life and my lights. If you ever do this
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  Speaker 1: to me again, I will vape you where you stand. Luke,
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to discourage your curiosity, but I have
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  Speaker 1: to remind you if something goes wrong, this is an
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  Speaker 1: exceptionally embarrassing way to die. And then Luke says, I'll
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  Speaker 1: trust you to improve the story. A friend of mar
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  Speaker 1: Jade's once said, Mara once told me this one that
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  Speaker 1: all it took to lift the Emperor's veil from her
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  Speaker 1: eyes was a long walk in the forest with this
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: man that after she had come to know Luke Skywalker,
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: it was easy to step into the like. So it's
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: just fascinating to me because again, like they are chaos together,
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: such chaos, and it's like a lot of the things
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: where mar jaid there's sort of this quote blushing gride thing.
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  Speaker 1: There's this she gets pregnant and it's really rough thing.
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  Speaker 1: There's this she gets ill and it's sick all the time,
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  Speaker 1: but she's never quite sidelined, like occasionally she did get
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: like really really sick at one point. It's like a
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: lot of stuff from the nineties I feel were this
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  Speaker 1: way where it was a step forward in terms of
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: feminism and representation of women, but she was still like
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: the mom and the bride and all that kind of stuff.
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  Speaker 1: But she was never quite even if she should have been.
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  Speaker 1: There was a part where she was at least a
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: good stretch where she was very sick and probably should
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: not have been doing all she's doing. I don't know,
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: it's interesting, Clearly I have a lot to say about it,
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