Latest / The Chris and Mike Show / #167 - Frederick "Jigg" Johnson - Pugilist
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- 0:07And we're live. We are live on all kinds of
- 0:10things. Right.
- 0:13All kinds of things. All kinds of things.
- 0:18That's Jake Johnson right there. I like to call you Jake, man.
- 0:22I know your name is Frederick, but I like to call you Jake.
- 0:25That's cool. Yeah.
- 0:32Up, up. Yeah, it's up there, boys and
- 0:59girls. This is the Chris and Mike show.
- 1:00He's Chris. I'm Mike.
- 1:02Actually, no, I'm, I'm Chris. He's Mike.
- 1:04And that's, this is Jake Johnson.
- 1:05He's he's a return visor because he is one of our super cool
- 1:10friends who's a boxer and he's just a bad ass mofo.
- 1:14So we, we not. Just a boxer.
- 1:15He's a professional boxer. He is a professional boxer, he's
- 1:19a father of three little girls and and just a really cool, very
- 1:23well spoken, humble individual. Till you get into the ring and
- 1:27you stand toe to toe with him, you're in all kinds of trouble.
- 1:31Jig will knock you on your ass. I've seen it with my own eyes
- 1:35four times. Now 4 * 4 times What's up Jake?
- 1:39How are you, man? Back, brother.
- 1:41How you guys doing, man? I'm good.
- 1:43We're doing great. We're so glad you came back on
- 1:45the show, dude. You were such a great
- 1:46conversation before. So super excited to have you
- 1:50back on and talk about all the things.
- 1:52It's good to be back. Yeah.
- 1:54So what's what's going on in in Jake Johnson's world right now?
- 1:57Oh. Man, just working.
- 2:00I'm getting, I'm actually getting ready to fight again
- 2:02March 6th. And so, so yeah, I saw the
- 2:06boxing, my training life picking up.
- 2:08I just started an all women's fitness group that I had in the
- 2:11past. I brought it back.
- 2:13Oh cool. I saw that online, that's
- 2:15awesome man. Oh yeah, we rolled it tomorrow
- 2:18morning at 9:30. Outstanding man so one of the
- 2:22reasons that we wanted to have you back on let's back up to
- 2:27your last fight when you were on here last time you were
- 2:30promoting that fight actually I think you've had two fights
- 2:32since then I. Think so, yeah.
- 2:35So let's back up two fights ago. How long did that last?
- 2:40That one? I didn't see this last one.
- 2:42I, I was actually able to subscribe online and I, I
- 2:45watched your fight, man, that was awesome.
- 2:47Yeah, the the last one was was 2 rounds and a minute and 36
- 2:56seconds I believe. Was that?
- 2:58For three rounds, 3 rounds, a lot of my third round.
- 3:03You knocked him out in the third round.
- 3:05Yes, Sir. OK, I'm gone.
- 3:07Knock you out, Mama said. Knock you.
- 3:10Out I got to see the aftermath because you posted it online.
- 3:13Man that was a brutal knockout to that dude.
- 3:15Just went down like a sack of potatoes.
- 3:18So here's the guy that Jig beat up in November of 2024.
- 3:23Oh, man, I do and go. That was supposed to be my first
- 3:26knockout, man. He wouldn't go away.
- 3:28It was supposed to. He wouldn't go away.
- 3:31Oh, look at that action shot dude, that's outstanding.
- 3:34Man that's a bad ass photo right there.
- 3:37That yeah, that is that is the great photo, dude.
- 3:40Right on. So he, he wouldn't go down.
- 3:42You just kept beating him up and he just wouldn't drop.
- 3:45Man, he was bleeding all over out and blood was getting in my
- 3:48mouth and everything. I just, oh, want him to go away.
- 3:51He wouldn't go away. So as you were hitting him,
- 3:54blood was coming back on you. It.
- 3:56Was like flying. Oh my gosh, dude, doesn't that
- 4:00freak you out? It didn't freak me out.
- 4:03It was like it was frustrating. Jig was getting mad.
- 4:10Those are my shoes. I just got those shoes, man.
- 4:12I wonder. I love this.
- 4:17That's that's awesome. The guy we got blood on my shoe.
- 4:21So, so you would have thought that would have made you even
- 4:23more mad to hit him even harder. Even though we've seen it, you
- 4:26know not, I mean we haven't felt it, but we've seen what your
- 4:29punches can do. Because again, you've had what
- 4:32did we decide 4 fights since you came on the show first time?
- 4:35Yes, Sir. And you knocked them all out.
- 4:40No2 Knockouts. OK, two knockouts.
- 4:42Right on. That guy we can just see.
- 4:46I wanted my first fight to build first knockout, but yeah, he
- 4:50ain't going down. So did you win that one by
- 4:53decision? Yes, Sir.
- 4:55OK, because you're 4 and out, right?
- 4:57Yes, Sir, all. Right.
- 4:58Yep, Yep. Now just to make me feel bad
- 5:02again, what weight class do you fight at?
- 5:05What weight? Well, middle Wilson, and which
- 5:08is how many pounds? I've been in both classes from
- 5:111:54 to 168. That's why he makes me feel bad,
- 5:14Chris, because those pictures that we just looked at, he's
- 5:17built like a brick shit house. We're the same weight.
- 5:20Yeah. Yeah, I don't look like jig.
- 5:22No, I figured that's why you're going there.
- 5:28I just found your, I just found your Frontline Warriors Fitness
- 5:31and Martial Arts page. We followed that.
- 5:34I thought I followed it before, so we're following that.
- 5:40I'm going to, I'm going to pull up some of your pictures, man,
- 5:41because your pictures are awesome.
- 5:44OK, so now go to the go to the fight that you were promoting
- 5:50before you came on the last time that would have been.
- 5:54I like this picture. Was that your first knockout?
- 5:57This one right here. No, that was the second.
- 6:00That was my third fight. OK, third fight.
- 6:03OK, that's a hell of a picture jig.
- 6:06Yeah. That's awesome.
- 6:08So yeah, turn awake That that's right, that dude.
- 6:11I had to get him out of there. Yeah, yeah, he was because he
- 6:15would deal with we didn't get more blood on your shoes.
- 6:18The. Shoes are expensive, right?
- 6:20Yeah, they are. That's what I fight was actually
- 6:22scheduled for six rounds. Not too many bosses do 6 rounds
- 6:26on the third fight. Oh, right on.
- 6:30How much weight did you have to cut for that fight?
- 6:32That fight was I had to look like 35 lbs.
- 6:36I had to get 35 off me. Wow, so what's so, so we talked
- 6:41before about your pre, your pre fight rituals, all that kind of
- 6:44stuff in the food. So when you're dropping 35 lbs,
- 6:48what does that do to your your power?
- 6:51Because obviously then you can, you can eat a bunch of food, but
- 6:53you'd like said you don't eat crazy, but so you weigh in, you
- 6:57meet the weight. What does it do to your power in
- 6:59your behind, your punches and stuff and your stamina in the
- 7:01ring? Does it affect it because you
- 7:02had to drop the weight so much? Yeah.
- 7:04Well, typically if you do it the right way, you can bring
- 7:08everything back. Speed, power.
- 7:11OK, yeah, but I had a terrible way.
- 7:14But I had a lot of things going on.
- 7:16So a lot of my wake up was just running in Sauna Suit and Sauna
- 7:20Rome and that drain. Yeah, I could see that because I
- 7:24when I wrestled in high school, we had that every now and then.
- 7:26Had to wear those stupid, you know sweat suits like you call
- 7:31them sauna suits that were just you know and then you are you
- 7:34just weak man you you feel weak afterwards at least I.
- 7:36Did what up Jake? I was pretty out of it.
- 7:40I was pretty out of it during that fight and my trying to know
- 7:45me. So he kind of like kept me level
- 7:48headed and told me what to do. That's good.
- 7:51That's what the trainers for right keep you and keep you in
- 7:53check. Yeah, I couldn't think for
- 7:55myself, so I had to really listen to him.
- 7:58Well, you get super dehydrated doing that, don't you?
- 8:01To the point where I can't think clearly.
- 8:03Yeah, I definitely kind of think clearly also really dehydrated.
- 8:07Like these last two fighters actually should have been in the
- 8:09hospital instead of in the boxing ring.
- 8:11But you sign a contract, you got to do your job.
- 8:15Why should you have been in the hospital?
- 8:17Because I dehydrated, I was. No kidding.
- 8:21Yeah, that was on me though. I'm a professional and Yep, I
- 8:26got to be more discipline with my weight cut.
- 8:31Learned by doing right. That's one of my favorite kids
- 8:34right there, man. Right there.
- 8:35Oh, this is someone that you coach.
- 8:37Nah, he he actually won. Aaron Jacobs.
- 8:41Aaron Adam Jacobs, fighter, Cuban kid.
- 8:46Cool. He's nice.
- 8:48Very done. I'm I'm thinking that a lot of
- 8:51boxers are nice outside the ring.
- 8:54I mean, like nice entering. He seemed like a nice guy
- 8:56outside right too. But yeah, they can't kill him.
- 8:59He he fought on the last two shows I've been on.
- 9:04Oh, right on. I'm just I'm scrolling through
- 9:10some of your fight pictures 'cause I want to show the world.
- 9:13So now, when was your last fight?
- 9:15It wasn't that long ago, was it? You know, it was on October
- 9:1825th. OK.
- 9:20This guy I just fought last, like he was a little bit more
- 9:23skilled, well, a lot more skilled in my previous
- 9:26appointments, so I had to be on my game where.
- 9:30Yeah, that's the one that I was able to watch.
- 9:32And he seemed like he he definitely made you use all your
- 9:36skill set. Oh yeah, I had to slip, roll,
- 9:39catch, counter everything. That guy that was actually
- 9:45Jackie, Harry's son, the mother of the sitcom.
- 9:48Sister. Sister.
- 9:50Oh no shit. Really.
- 9:52That's a song. I remember her from 227 watching
- 9:58that with my great grandma. She was on that, too.
- 10:03Yeah, that was a song. He talked a lot of crap too.
- 10:09That was me too. He was talking shit to you while
- 10:13you guys were fighting. The whole fight.
- 10:15Really. What was he saying?
- 10:19A lot like you don't got shit, that's all you got.
- 10:24I ate that shit like bro. Keep feeding me, Keep feeding
- 10:28me. Now let me ask you this, Jake.
- 10:30Are you talking back to him? Are you just getting madder?
- 10:33I ain't getting mad. I'm I'm smiling and I'm talking
- 10:37back at certain points. But what?
- 10:40What are you telling him? I I just kept telling him I'm
- 10:43right here like but he keep talking like I'm right here.
- 10:48Yeah. See, there was a couple times
- 10:49where you were like telling him to come at you and I thought
- 10:53that's what you were telling him.
- 10:54That's why I'm asking. Oh, no, I want to tell him.
- 10:57I want to tell him to come at me.
- 10:58I was telling him like I'm right here.
- 11:00Like he keeps saying, like he was saying like bring that shit
- 11:03on, like I'm eating that shit. You know?
- 11:05There ain't nothing behind that. Ain't nothing.
- 11:06I'm like bro, I'm right here like.
- 11:12I love that. Sorry Nikki, text me.
- 11:18It's all good and. Eventually he knocked his ass
- 11:21out. Oh no, I couldn't get him.
- 11:25I couldn't get him. I caught him a few times but he
- 11:27was pretty sturdy. So, but you got the decision on
- 11:32that? Right.
- 11:32No, I got unanimous. Yeah.
- 11:35I'll have probably about 6:00. I was like 60% in that fight
- 11:38because that was another bad way but.
- 11:46So that that definitely has something to do with your
- 11:49stamina then, right? They do.
- 11:54So we had a guy on that he's, he's not a boxer, but he trains
- 11:59like a boxer and he started sparring.
- 12:04He had like he, he finally had his first sparring match not too
- 12:08long ago. And he physically he like he's
- 12:10in shape, like he's a specimen, like, you know, like he's got
- 12:13the core, got the muscles, he's cut, he's ripped.
- 12:15He's just, you look at him and think, OK, this guy, you know,
- 12:18he's not going to have a problem.
- 12:20And then so we asked him how his first sparring match was, right.
- 12:23He said when the first minute he was just dead because the cardio
- 12:26that he had was nothing compared to the cardio that you actually
- 12:30have to have as a boxer. A lot of a lot of people jump
- 12:34into boxing don't realize how long 3 minutes is.
- 12:39Right. Yeah, that's what he said.
- 12:41He's like, I was a minute in, man, and I was, I was dead.
- 12:43I was beat. Those were his exact words,
- 12:46Jake. He was like a minute.
- 12:48That's all it took. And.
- 12:49Yeah, that's all it took to make him realize he's not in shape,
- 12:52which is mind boggling to me because I mean, we watch boxing,
- 12:55right? We're not boxers like you are.
- 12:56And, and from a spectator standpoint, I mean, you're
- 12:59moving around and stuff, you know, constantly with your feet,
- 13:02like we learned, like you had, I remember what you told us before
- 13:04that that because I always thought you'd look at the, at
- 13:07the, at the, with the waist or the head and you're like, no,
- 13:09you look at their feet to where they're going to go for their
- 13:12punches and stuff. So when you're doing the jump
- 13:16rope and you're doing the running, the cardio and all that
- 13:18kind of stuff, is that what is that?
- 13:19What builds up your legs stamina for all that moving around the
- 13:22ringers or other things you got to do in order to have that to
- 13:24maintain that stamina for those rounds?
- 13:27So it's a combination of things, your cardio, your sprinting,
- 13:33conditioning and then your boxing.
- 13:37Also your nutrition and what you're doing outside of the gym
- 13:40like. No Big Macs.
- 13:42Smoking, yeah, stuff like that, yeah.
- 13:44Well, all that stuff, Big Macs. So all that stuff play together.
- 13:50Yeah. So it's not just one thing.
- 13:52You got to do everything. Everything.
- 13:55And then you got to do everything consistently.
- 13:59Right. You can't take a day off, right?
- 14:01Yep. So I look at cardio to help me
- 14:06with my strength and conditioner in the boxing training.
- 14:10So you actually training to train, you're doing your cardio
- 14:15and your strength and conditioning to be in shape to
- 14:18do boxing training, you know, shape and do boxing training so
- 14:21you can score on flight. How many, how many, How many
- 14:28sparring matches will you do in the course of of preparing for a
- 14:32fight? Some people keep track.
- 14:38I could say every Wednesday, every Tuesday, Thursday and
- 14:42Saturday. OK, OK.
- 14:46Then let me. Yeah, go ahead.
- 14:49It's along the same lines as what you're asking.
- 14:51So a lot of MMA fighters that I listen to on podcast, they will
- 14:56stop sparring at a certain point before the fight comes up.
- 15:00Do you have a cut off date of when you're not going to spar
- 15:02anymore? Oh, fight week.
- 15:04The week before fight week. We'll probably do like black
- 15:10sparring on Thursday and that Saturday and no sparring on
- 15:15fight week. OK, so a week out you're not?
- 15:19Well, you shouldn't be doing the hard sparring.
- 15:22OK, so is, is, so what's the difference between hard sparring
- 15:26like like hard light? So hard sparring you're, you're
- 15:28hit and throwing punches, all that kind of jazz, you know,
- 15:30moving, you know, all the kind of like you're like you're
- 15:33fighting fighting, but not for real, but pretty close.
- 15:35And then Light is just kind of kicking back, kind of, hey,
- 15:38what's going on? So hard sparring is like
- 15:43simulating like what you actually going to get in an
- 15:46actual fight. Oh, OK.
- 15:49People are not so looking in. These two people can like best
- 15:52friends, but on outside looking in you won't be able to tell
- 15:56'cause they. Right.
- 15:57OK, gotcha. Like spawn and should be just
- 16:00none but like skill like speed and skill.
- 16:04OK being sharp like you hitting people, but you should be not
- 16:08pulling on your punches but not trying to load up.
- 16:12Right, You're not doing full, you're not doing full impact
- 16:14punches. You're hitting them, but you you
- 16:16know you're not going to drop them with what you're hitting
- 16:17them with type thing. Hey.
- 16:18Sir, you make sure you start everything you worked on.
- 16:21Cool. If you studied your opponent,
- 16:25y'all working on a specific thing, making sure you're
- 16:27sticking to y'all game playing, which I've been working on off
- 16:30count. Now you're showing, you're
- 16:32showing pick then the camera. Just try to switch everything
- 16:35up. So you kind of have a pregame
- 16:38like you, you watch some of your opponent, then you kind of know
- 16:40their tendencies, understand things, things they may do
- 16:43right. And so then you and your
- 16:45trainers come up with like this game plan, how we're going to
- 16:47attack this person or defend against these certain things.
- 16:50So so you're sparring matches prior to a kind of ingraining
- 16:54that into into your game plan per SE.
- 16:56Is that a good way to OK, that's a good way to explain that.
- 16:59Right on. OK then let me let me ask you
- 17:01this then. Jake, you said that this guy
- 17:06tested you in ways that you had not anticipated.
- 17:09What did you overlook leading up to that fight in hindsight that
- 17:14you've worked on since then? Well, overlooking, I don't know.
- 17:20I want to say I overlooked him. OK.
- 17:22It's just I wouldn't, I wouldn't say.
- 17:24That might have been. He's Jake Johnson.
- 17:25Man, that might have been a. Well, he still won the fight, so
- 17:27that's a bad word. I I waited too long to start a
- 17:33weight cut that I needed to take.
- 17:35Oh. OK, Oh, that was the one where
- 17:37your trainer really came into play to help you.
- 17:39Well, my last two fights, yeah. Yeah, OK.
- 17:43That makes sense. So are you going to are you
- 17:45going to, are you going to continue cutting weight or are
- 17:47you going to stay in a? Division I started already I'm
- 17:51I'm I'm doing things different like I did in the beginning my
- 17:55own project. I'm going to like that program I
- 17:59had. So if you were to fight at your
- 18:01normal weight, what would your What would your weight division
- 18:03be? Or your weight class.
- 18:05Before. OK.
- 18:07And you see you drop down. Yeah, and we going to 160, this
- 18:11fight going back 160. OK.
- 18:14And what do you weigh right now? I don't.
- 18:17Know, I don't know, it's kind. Of like, it's kind of like
- 18:22pretty fast, yes, Phillip Rivers when he when he joined the
- 18:25Colts, right from coming from your time with the first
- 18:27question he answers. How much do we feel it's like
- 18:29right, like right now? I have no idea man.
- 18:32Yeah, I'm tired. I'm tired like 170 right now.
- 18:35OK, OK, that's not bad. I mean, that's not bad.
- 18:40If you're going down TO16154160, that's not bad.
- 18:42That's not a lot of weight to cut.
- 18:44What do you, what do you try to stay?
- 18:45Do you have a a weight you try to maintain consistently?
- 18:48So that way when you do have to cut, you're not cutting crazy.
- 18:51Well, I told myself that I was going to stay within 1015 lbs on
- 18:55my weight class. Yeah, but it didn't go that way.
- 19:00His baby. And just like last week, kind of
- 19:05gave up, you know? Yeah.
- 19:08Like, I announced that I was done.
- 19:11But someone acted as my manager, promoter.
- 19:14He had. I had a talk with him.
- 19:17Yeah, Is that ash still? Oh no, Ash as my partner, you
- 19:25know what I mean? Oh, OK, we got you.
- 19:26Hey, Ash. What up, Ash?
- 19:29That's my yeah, yeah, probably a lot.
- 19:33Yeah, Ash is good people, man. That's how we met you
- 19:34originally. Ash reached out, Absolutely
- 19:36start talking, and here you are. I'll do the Ash out of winning
- 19:40fighters. Ash winning coach, man, I'm
- 19:42proud of him. That's all.
- 19:46Congratulations. Yeah, for sure.
- 19:50So you have announced, yeah, you had announced that you were
- 19:53going to quit boxing. Is that what I just heard you
- 19:55say? I did.
- 19:58I thought I read that on Facebook at one time and.
- 20:03Yeah, it was a lot of stuff going on.
- 20:06OK. Well, I had a lot of.
- 20:07Fun. Yeah, well, I can't.
- 20:10I mean, and all athletes, there's a sacrifice that has to
- 20:14be made, right? Because you're an athlete and in
- 20:16order for you to be the top of your game, you have to make a
- 20:19lot of sacrifices. It's no different from from the
- 20:21musician side of it. Like it's hard to have a family,
- 20:23it's hard to have kids, it's hard to have relationships
- 20:25because you got to be so hyper focused on the end game, which
- 20:28for you, every boxer's goal should be to win the title,
- 20:31right? And be the champion of the
- 20:32world. So like, right.
- 20:34And then you have a day job on top of that and then you have
- 20:38kids on top of that and you have a home life on top of that.
- 20:42So that's what really good. Yeah, that's what really got me.
- 20:47My kids, baby the my the most. I was having trouble in school.
- 20:51And then one day my my middle child, her name Ivy, she was
- 20:55like that. You you never really have time.
- 20:57You always gotta go to boxing. And that kind of like set me on
- 21:00my tails. Oh yeah.
- 21:01Oh, that'll break your heart. Yeah, Oh, I get it.
- 21:04It's like you had to see her face when she said that.
- 21:09Like she was, she was real serious.
- 21:12Like serious and shit. So like, it made me think.
- 21:16And then top of that with my daughter having trouble in
- 21:19school and that's like, my kids miss me 'cause I get out of camp
- 21:23and then jump right back into town.
- 21:25Yeah. And then outside of camp, I'm
- 21:27working overnights. So everything.
- 21:30And all they understand is you're their dad.
- 21:32They don't give a shit about anything else.
- 21:34I don't care about any excuse you made.
- 21:36Nope. Nope.
- 21:38Nope. The brutal honesty of children,
- 21:40man. Where you at, Dad?
- 21:42I'm not there. Well, why not?
- 21:45Well, let me tell you. So how did you rectify it in
- 21:49your mind to come back to I'm going to take this seriously
- 21:53again and I'm going to be able to do both things effectively
- 21:57because that couldn't have been an easy decision to make.
- 22:01Well, originally what you said about or Chris said about
- 22:04sacrifices, like you're having to make an old sacrifice.
- 22:08I had to make it up in my mind like it's going to be times I'm
- 22:11not going to be there, but I'm trying to set a foundation for
- 22:15them. I mean so.
- 22:18Now, did you talk to them on their level about this?
- 22:22I did, but I don't care. They might later on.
- 22:29So I we, we practicing like on a bond activity that I'm taking in
- 22:35a different place. Just like I'm sacrificing the
- 22:37train, I gotta make sure I can sacrifice some, like my
- 22:42sleepless son to take them to bond.
- 22:46And yeah, my oldest, I'm listening to her like more.
- 22:50I don't even know. She like anime and I love anime.
- 22:53So we started bonding over that. That's cool.
- 22:56That's awesome. I watched this show, Demon
- 22:59Slayer, and I asked her about it and she said she already
- 23:02finished the show. So that's how I thought I like
- 23:06anime. And I mean, we started bonding
- 23:09over that. That's cool.
- 23:11That is really cool. Yeah, I used to do a thing with
- 23:13with daughter. We used to do daddy daughter
- 23:16date nights. Every Friday night.
- 23:19We would go somewhere like, you know, telling sounds terrible,
- 23:23but McDonald's or something like that.
- 23:24And and then we'd go to Blockbuster when Blockbuster's
- 23:28still around, you know, rent a video, come home, watch the
- 23:30movie, eat some popcorn, you know, just this is before our
- 23:34son was born. So it was the Daddy daughter day
- 23:37and it was cool because it kind of you had that connection.
- 23:40And then later in life, we did a thing where we called it Sunday
- 23:43evening dinners where she and I would plan.
- 23:45We in the morning, we would decide what we're going to have
- 23:46for dinner that night and we would plan it out, go to the
- 23:49store. We would, you know, do stuff
- 23:50from scratch. Like I taught her how to make,
- 23:52make lattice pie crust, you know, we'd bake pies and stuff
- 23:56and just whatever it was, she'd have a complete hand and say and
- 24:00everything we were doing. And we would just, that was like
- 24:02our, our time to bond on Sunday, you know, And then when Jake
- 24:05came along, it was different. Little caveats we would do with
- 24:08him as well. So it's a cool thing to do just
- 24:11even if it's only an hour a week, as long as you can kind of
- 24:14grab that time, you know, and just hang out and do whatever it
- 24:18it it, it will go a long way in their lifetime of memories of,
- 24:22you know, my dad was busy. He was where he was supporting
- 24:25the family. He was a boxer.
- 24:26He was, you know, helping training people.
- 24:28But you know, every Thursday at 6:00 to 7:00, it was, it was me
- 24:32and dad just hanging out watching, you know, anime stuff
- 24:35or, you know, going to the park or whatever.
- 24:38It was like Jake and I had this thing where we would always, we
- 24:42would play catch and it was, it was we get to 100, you know, and
- 24:45if you, if you, the ball fell on the ground, you got to start
- 24:47over. So we'd either get to 101 time
- 24:50or take a 6-7 times to get to 100 consecutive back and forth,
- 24:53whether it was with a baseball or football.
- 24:55But that was just little things that you just did the bond and
- 24:57it was, it was cool and simple and it goes a long way.
- 25:00So kudos to that man. Keep digging on that and keep,
- 25:03you know, this. It's just building memories,
- 25:05which is all it's about, right? Build that legacy, you know, And
- 25:10it doesn't hurt. Their dad's a bad ass boxer, so
- 25:12that's cool, you know? Yeah, my my daughter, I'm
- 25:15realizing I don't know if she thought I was like a square.
- 25:22She realized it on my status now because like everywhere she go,
- 25:26like her teachers and like a Bush job of people know me.
- 25:30That's cool. Yeah, that's fun.
- 25:33And also tell her, I mean, I got a lot of eyes on you so.
- 25:37Yeah, right. Yep.
- 25:40Let's Yeah. That'd be fun when your
- 25:42daughters get to dating age and the boys come pick pick them up
- 25:45for a date and you just open the door, you know, with your with
- 25:49your I'm in the middle of the ring.
- 25:50Look like, what's up, man? You know who I am, right?
- 25:53Oh man. But then you have your
- 25:56championship, but then you have your championship belt.
- 25:58So you can answer that with your belt on, you know, get some
- 26:00gloves, have your gloves on the belt on and just stand there.
- 26:03You see that blood in my shoes? Yeah, that was the last guy took
- 26:06my daughter out and came home late.
- 26:11That would be fun. That would be, that'd be a cool
- 26:13fly in the wall moment, just to see somebody pick up a a boxer's
- 26:16daughter for a date. And he answers the door with a
- 26:18belt on and gloves and he's all sweating.
- 26:20Just ready yet? That's a great, that's a great
- 26:25line for a, that's a great line for a movie.
- 26:28I wasn't mad that he hit me. I was mad that he bled on my
- 26:31shoes. Just keep that in mind.
- 26:38Yeah, Yeah. Exactly how much do boxing shoes
- 26:41cost now that we go back to that?
- 26:43Yeah. Those is like 125, yeah.
- 26:46Yeah, that's not you don't. Yeah, don't blame my shoes.
- 26:50I need too bad I just thought it was white.
- 26:52Right. That's yeah, yeah, You know, I
- 26:54mean, it's now, do you, do you use this like, like a lot of
- 26:57like football players now, right?
- 26:58They won't wear the same shoes every game.
- 26:59Do you Do you change shoes every time you fight?
- 27:02Or I use those shoes twice. OK.
- 27:05And that's it. Well, they comfortable like
- 27:09those real sturdy shoes, like the moving was not the real good
- 27:13athletic shoe. Yeah.
- 27:16So I like using those. I'm gonna get a different pair
- 27:19though. Gotcha.
- 27:20I'm surprised it didn't cost more.
- 27:22That's why I asked that. I, you know, I just figured they
- 27:24would be hell of a lot more 'cause it's a, it's a, it's a
- 27:26boxing shoe, you know, and everything.
- 27:28Those written originally was on Pacquiao's The Hyper KO, but he
- 27:33said what he said about the alphabet community and he I pull
- 27:39his pill. Did you?
- 27:44So being a boxer, you're also a boxing fan?
- 27:48Did you watch the the fiasco, Jake Paulson and and Joshua?
- 27:54I did. Talk to us about it, Jake.
- 27:57From a professional boxer, yeah. What what happened was what was
- 28:01supposed to happen. I think people felt like Anthony
- 28:05Joshua was supposed to knock him out in the first round, but he
- 28:08never been like smite of the knock guy first round.
- 28:11He's strategic. He like, it's like you paint a
- 28:14picture and yeah, you want that picture to be finished how you
- 28:18wanted to finish. Right.
- 28:20So he beat at him and beat at him like, like what?
- 28:24Like how you explain he wanted to take his soul.
- 28:26I think that's what he did, took his soul.
- 28:29And then I agree. I was going off of a script, but
- 28:33if it wasn't on script there that he was going to go by.
- 28:38So when you're boxing somebody and they hug you, right?
- 28:41They, they, what are they? They clench and shit like that.
- 28:44Like when Jake Paul was dropping to his knees and hugging him and
- 28:46shit. How did, how frustrated does
- 28:48that make you as somebody who's trying to be on the offensive?
- 28:52I actually dealt with that with my last fight.
- 28:55I didn't have a clue how to get out of that.
- 28:58Like he was a real good clinch artist.
- 29:02He can, he came, he had me in certain walks were like OK, I
- 29:08need to chill, get tired. So that was the first time you
- 29:11had ever experienced that, where somebody did that to you on that
- 29:14level? Yes, Sir.
- 29:16And I didn't know how to get out of.
- 29:19And it's, and they're not getting points for that shit.
- 29:21All they're doing is, is so when they Clint, when they clench you
- 29:25right, is that they call it when they clench you, are they
- 29:27putting their body weight on you, trying to weigh you down?
- 29:32Somebody bigger than you and he's tired.
- 29:34He probably put his weight on and try to long way down but he
- 29:38was hurt. Every time he clenched he was
- 29:41hurt and. So you hurt him and then he
- 29:43hugged you. Thank you.
- 29:45I got too close. I should have kept my distance.
- 29:48OK. But that was not something I
- 29:53need to experience. When I hurt somebody, don't get
- 29:57an opportunity to clench. Keep my distance in, get him
- 30:00out. Keep jabbing, keep jabbing,
- 30:02right? Because that's what the jab is
- 30:03for, right? Is to keep that space between
- 30:05the two. Well when working my faints and
- 30:08letting him walk through something like I learned from
- 30:10that fight a lot. That's good.
- 30:13I would assume you learn from every fight because you're
- 30:15fighting somebody different every time, right?
- 30:17Yes, Sir, but I I really got the opportunity to learn against
- 30:20somebody with more skill. Who's next?
- 30:27Who's next on the on the on the Jig Johnson Horizon Our.
- 30:30World got no we don't. Got no opponent yet but OK, same
- 30:35results hopefully. I want to get him out before the
- 30:403rd. I don't want to keep going a
- 30:41distance. Yeah, so now you're now you've
- 30:45now your, your fights now are 6 rounds long.
- 30:49No, just the my third fight was 6.
- 30:51OK, So what are the typical fights for for a young
- 30:54professional like yourself as far as you're concerned?
- 30:5712/4? Four.
- 31:00OK, four. Gotcha.
- 31:01So by the time you hit like your your A fight, you'll probably
- 31:05bump it to six, OK. And those are three minute
- 31:10rounds. Yes, Sir.
- 31:12And what's what's the actual time between the round A minute?
- 31:15A minute. OK, it seems longer on TVI don't
- 31:18know why. It does, right?
- 31:21It totally does now when you're in the corner between rounds
- 31:27because you, you know, with TV and stuff, they pan back and
- 31:29forth. So you can't really see
- 31:30everything that's going on for that, for that time.
- 31:33So obviously your trainer's talking to, he's coaching you
- 31:35up, he's giving you, you know, hints and tips.
- 31:36I do this. Don't do that type thing.
- 31:38Are you hydrating? Are they, I mean, I see, I see,
- 31:41you know, they'll pull the, the, the trunks out, kind of open up
- 31:45the air breathing. I'm assuming that's for all that
- 31:48kind of jazz, everything they're doing in the corner.
- 31:50Is it all, does it all have a purpose or it's just kind of
- 31:52random like, you know, sponge on the head, cold water?
- 31:55Obviously I like, I like the ice bag on the back of my neck and
- 32:01my trying to pull on my trunks, my trunks, 'cause he pulled in
- 32:05my cup. Your cup is like digging in your
- 32:07stomach. And oh, that's why.
- 32:11OK. That's why you see that was the
- 32:13good cooks though. That's why you see your trainers
- 32:15like pulling that day. Yeah, yeah, you got to have a
- 32:19cup when you box. Oh, yeah, It's a surprise,
- 32:23Surprise. Football players don't wear
- 32:24cups, man. Because when you watch a
- 32:26football game every now and then, you know, it's like, OK,
- 32:29why aren't you wearing a cup, man?
- 32:30Like I. Would I?
- 32:31Would be a pain, a fast hit. I'll be shining these guys with
- 32:34basketball wing shorts on, knees out.
- 32:39Oh yeah. It's like protect the manhood,
- 32:42man. Like I don't get that.
- 32:44You know, it's I mean baseball always right, you have to.
- 32:47I was catching baseball. So that thing was standard
- 32:49protocol. Me too, right, This boxing have
- 32:53to other now. Have you ever been have you ever
- 32:55been low blown with the cup on and with because you have that
- 32:57other thing too, right, You guys, I don't know what it is.
- 33:00It's it's how do you what is that thing you wear?
- 33:02It's like a girdle, but it's not a girdle.
- 33:04That's the Cup. That's the all.
- 33:06The whole thing's the cup. Yeah, that's the whole thing.
- 33:09Oh, OK. I was thinking cup, cup, like
- 33:10baseball cup. OK, That whole thing's a cup.
- 33:12OK, gotcha. I didn't realize that either.
- 33:14Yeah. Yeah, tell you a growing area
- 33:16then you got. Yeah, yeah, OK.
- 33:19You go all the way down there. So I typed in boxer cup and I
- 33:24get a bunch of motorcycles. What is up with that?
- 33:29I'm not even sure. I'm not either, man.
- 33:31I I wanted to see a picture of it and just to show the world
- 33:34what we're talking about. I'm curious your answer is.
- 33:38I'm curious your answer to this question though.
- 33:40Have you ever been low bloat or illegal hit sparring?
- 33:45Only in sparring. Only in sparring I actually was
- 33:47like. Did you want to kill your
- 33:49sparring partner when he heard it?
- 33:52Was it accidental? It was accidental.
- 33:54It wasn't OK. No, you still wanted to kill him
- 33:56though, So that's really, I don't want that stupid thing.
- 34:02So that's the cup, That's the Boston Cup, which I didn't, I
- 34:05didn't know. I legit thought it was baseball
- 34:08cup. So I didn't know that whole that
- 34:10whole piece right there was the actual the actual cup itself.
- 34:13Why did you do that thing? Like there it is on the guy.
- 34:17Like I had no idea that was the whole.
- 34:19That's what that makes sense now, because I always wonder why
- 34:21there, there you go there you go.
- 34:22That's where you put the manhood.
- 34:24OK, makes more sense now. Totally makes more sense now.
- 34:29That's why you have the the trunks over it, so that you're
- 34:32not, you're not out there in the world.
- 34:33And that still hurts when you get hit in that, huh?
- 34:37Yeah, it's if somebody hit you the right way.
- 34:39I I haven't been hurt severely. Like I can see how people can
- 34:45like drop down from getting hit by full yeah like that or yeah.
- 34:50And it really felt you have somebody dated intentionally.
- 34:53Like, I could imagine if Mike Tyson's uppercut was a little
- 34:56too misguided and it hit right there that you would drop to
- 34:58your knees for a while. Exactly, you know they give you
- 35:025 minutes to recover from a low blow.
- 35:05That still doesn't work. If you've ever been hit the
- 35:06family jewels, it's the nausea. Twice.
- 35:09And that's, and that's right. And it's not even from a boxer.
- 35:12And balloons go off for Mike. I mean, twice, twice enough
- 35:18without being a professional boxer, right.
- 35:20So back to the the Jake Paul nonsense.
- 35:24So he broke his jaw. He's got pins in his jaw in two
- 35:26places now. So I want you to, I want you to,
- 35:29to tell us if this is accurate or not.
- 35:31Because all the bullshit online you can't believe anymore.
- 35:34So is it true that if you break your jaw like that and you have
- 35:37you have pins and stuff in your jaw now that you can never box
- 35:40again? If it's permanent, I would
- 35:45imagine it's old, yeah. Apparently it's permanent, but
- 35:49he doesn't act like it's going to prevent him because now all
- 35:51of a sudden, Tyson's like, oh, I'm going to fight you again,
- 35:54unscripted. OK, Mike.
- 35:56Yeah. You kind of already, you know,
- 35:58the world knows you need the money, which is cool.
- 35:59You know, you do your thing, but even I don't know if we talked
- 36:03about that last time either, but there's no way Tyson should not
- 36:07have knocked Jake Paul down in the first freaking round or two.
- 36:11You know, he just yeah, it was, it was, it was.
- 36:17And the fact that he's still fighting, we're talking to
- 36:19somebody. I think it was Mike the friend
- 36:21Michael Rose that that sparred for the first time realized.
- 36:25Holy shit, You know that the older you get, the reason why
- 36:30you get slower is because your legs they're just they're, you
- 36:33know, they just can't handle the, the, the, the ring anymore,
- 36:38right? Like they just can't.
- 36:39You can't no matter what you do. You're like, if I'm I'm 55 years
- 36:42old, I'm nowhere near in the shape that you're in, but I
- 36:45can't imagine getting into a boxing ring right now at a 55
- 36:48year old, even if I was in boxing shape to do what you guys
- 36:51have to do for three minutes. That's the constant movement.
- 36:55They always, they always say the best transition athletes outside
- 37:02of boxing that won a box, tennis players, basketball players,
- 37:06soccer players and swimming. Soccer.
- 37:09Soccer for sure. Soccer.
- 37:11Yeah, Yeah. That's nonstop.
- 37:12In that field is gigantic. Yeah, tennis.
- 37:17Tennis. Yeah, I should say that too.
- 37:18I never thought it either. Hockey would be another one.
- 37:22Hockey's crazy because hockey's kind of like boxing.
- 37:24I saw this thing there. They're always moving.
- 37:26The two hockey players got pissed off each other and then
- 37:28suddenly ice and they straight up were boxing.
- 37:30Oh, yeah, They were straight up boxing.
- 37:32It's boxing. And the one guy, right?
- 37:34And the one guy knocked got knocked out.
- 37:35Like, I mean, they just I mean they really they were just it
- 37:39was like Rocky three at the end with Mr. T and Balboa just going
- 37:42at it and. I had a hockey game back on
- 37:46sagging. Right.
- 37:48Yeah, yeah. Hard for the game.
- 37:53Did you have Mike Tyson's Punch Out?
- 37:56That was before my time, Chris. Oh, I just dated myself.
- 38:00That's sad. I put a lot of quarters in that
- 38:02game. It's OK.
- 38:03It's OK. Yeah, Mike Tyson's Punch Out was
- 38:05legit, dude. It was pretty cool.
- 38:07You had to. You had, Yeah, you.
- 38:09And once you got to Mike Tyson, he kicked your ass like every 20
- 38:12seconds. It sucks.
- 38:14Are you going to beat him? No, no, he's Tyson.
- 38:17It was like. Any other game back in the day,
- 38:20there were hacks that you could do, but no, it was impossible to
- 38:23beat him once you got to him. It was so frustrating.
- 38:25But it was, I mean, that's the Tyson man.
- 38:27That was his, his peak, right? You just, you know, you can't
- 38:30beat Tyson in a video game. Sacrilegious.
- 38:33You know, even with the hacks, it just didn't work.
- 38:39It's crazy. But that's, you know, that's the
- 38:41fun about it, right? Video games, Yeah.
- 38:43So what are you doing? Your downtime Besides so.
- 38:46So the kids are to school. You got the day off.
- 38:48You don't have to train. What are you doing?
- 38:50What are you doing just to chill and relax?
- 38:52Well, now I've been getting ready for this hit class like I
- 38:56got to go to turn out with it's all women.
- 38:59It's called the hip hop sweatshop.
- 39:01So right now my time is going on protecting that program is and
- 39:05I'm pretty sore from that, but it's also helping me get ready
- 39:08for my fight. So right now, in this downtime,
- 39:13go ahead. And this is this a new business?
- 39:16No, it's my training business. That's what I've been doing.
- 39:20Oh, that's right. I had that up earlier.
- 39:21OK. Yeah, yeah.
- 39:24I had this class five years ago. Well, I brought it back.
- 39:29Cool, what does this class entail?
- 39:30Because you said it specifically for women, so why is it geared
- 39:33towards women? It's hit, it's synchronized
- 39:36workouts. It's just I got it right here.
- 39:41A lot of men got stuff to do. Right.
- 39:44Yeah, a lot of men have things to do far as like boxing, for
- 39:48example. A lot of men come in box, you
- 39:51got wrecked basketball leagues and stuff like that's plenty of
- 39:55stuff for men to do. For women is not really much
- 40:01going on for them to get involved with.
- 40:04So I just offered an outlet that one can come and relax.
- 40:08And get in shape, you know? Yep, that's.
- 40:10Really good health and well, they have fun at the same time.
- 40:15And there, there it is on the screen like a hip hop sweatshop.
- 40:18All women take awesome. Get ready to sweat, sculpt and
- 40:21vibe. A fun high energy workout to hip
- 40:24hop music designed to tone burn calories and boost confidence
- 40:28and then. And then down below booty bands
- 40:30provided. They definitely don't feel it
- 40:34there. Yeah, my wife did something,
- 40:37something kind of like that at EOS.
- 40:39I forget what it's called, but I, I was there one day in the
- 40:43weight room when another one of those class was going on and I
- 40:45was like just at corner of my eye, like damn, it's just, it's
- 40:48non-stop, non-stop. I'm like, that would kick
- 40:53anybody's ass. Oh yeah, but I'm a preach to
- 40:58them man. Like they hold each other
- 41:00accountable, everybody just come together and state today plan or
- 41:05whatever their New Year's resolution is or their own
- 41:08purpose of those right this class, it definitely helped and.
- 41:12That's cool. Let me ask you this jig.
- 41:14I just thought of this question. So Chris and I obviously come
- 41:17from the music world and we have people that we looked up to that
- 41:21inspired us to do what we do. Who are your favorite boxers
- 41:24that made you want to do this or that you look up to even now
- 41:28today? #1 Roy Jones Junior like I was,
- 41:34I was a big fan of his since before I knew I was going to
- 41:37even do boxing. Right on.
- 41:40You know, when I got into boxing, I realized educational
- 41:45purpose is you can't watch Roy Jones.
- 41:47Yeah, what you can't teach. So educational purposes, Andre
- 41:51Ward and Floyd Mayweather was two guys I really watched.
- 41:58Both shining examples of great boxers for sure.
- 42:03Floyd will teach you how to not get hit your entire career.
- 42:07Yeah, I learned that. I I learned that from talking to
- 42:09Jig last time. Like I didn't, I never realized
- 42:11that Mayweather's whole entire existence in life was not to get
- 42:16hit in the ring. Like, he drives me nuts watching
- 42:19him, but right. But it's such a frustrating
- 42:21boxer to watch. And well, he was pretty well
- 42:24Floyd. He he didn't have that kind of
- 42:26care. Oh, that's right.
- 42:27Pretty, Yeah. Yeah, yeah, he was kill you.
- 42:30He really cared if you hit him or not.
- 42:32But when he started breaking his hands and became Money
- 42:35Mayweather, that's the one people called boring.
- 42:39Oh, that's what they are. That's what they remember the
- 42:40most. They don't remember pretty well.
- 42:43That's that's that's you say that that's true, that's totally
- 42:46true, which. He's had two.
- 42:47I didn't think about that. I.
- 42:48Didn't think about that at all. And his dad fought, right?
- 42:51And his uncles. Yeah, OK.
- 42:54Well, well. His dad lost to Sugar Ray
- 42:58Leonard. Oh, yeah, Sugar Ray, man, that's
- 43:01right. See, I'll see.
- 43:02I grew up on those like Sugar Ray, Marvelous Marvin Hagler,
- 43:05Tommy Hearns. You know, I think Ollie was
- 43:09still around later. In his prime, those guys, Sugar
- 43:13Ray and Tommy Ryan and a little bit of Hagler, but we don't got
- 43:17the same style. So it was more of a Sugar Ray.
- 43:20I watched him a lot. Yeah.
- 43:23Who do you think was the most underrated boxer in in, in your
- 43:26lifetime as far as who you looked up to and saw just in
- 43:29general? The one that just he should have
- 43:31got there, but he didn't. That was a good question, huh?
- 43:37That is a. Great question.
- 43:41Because because there's tons of boxers, right?
- 43:43It's only only the few get to the upper echelon of the sport
- 43:47so. Well, I won.
- 43:50I know somebody who was pretty much on their way, but tragedy
- 43:54stuck in the rain. Prichard Cologne, Puerto Rican
- 43:57fighter. He, he got handed back of the
- 44:00head too many times and he passed out and he went into a
- 44:05calm. He came out of a coma or
- 44:08vegetable, you know. Yeah.
- 44:10Oh, that's terrible, man. You got hit in the back of the
- 44:13head. Too many times, though, I
- 44:15watched that fight. The referee was.
- 44:18Hit how? How do you get hit in the back
- 44:19of the head? It can be accidental.
- 44:23You could throw a hook and he's trying to slip the shot and in
- 44:27the back, but it's dude, he kept doing it and referee wasn't
- 44:29really doing his job. Yeah, but I feel like he would
- 44:35have been a champion for a good minute.
- 44:37Yeah, that much skill, That much.
- 44:40And put your Cologne like you look up your stories.
- 44:42Kind of sad especially you watch that fight.
- 44:47Yeah. Have you ever taken any of those
- 44:52kind of shots yourself, Jake? Yeah, I've been in the back of
- 44:55the head a few times. What time?
- 45:00What is it? What is it?
- 45:01Yeah, I was, yeah, I was just cast that.
- 45:03What's the difference of a of a back of the headshot to just
- 45:05square in the face? Well, a back of the headshot and
- 45:11pretty much rattle your brain a little differently.
- 45:14It's the reason why it's illegal.
- 45:17Your brains not supposed to go from the back to the front I
- 45:20would assume. I gotta look up exactly how it
- 45:24is to be able to explain to you better, but.
- 45:26It must be more dangerous like you said, they wouldn't have
- 45:29made it illegal. It is.
- 45:33I was like slightly concussed. I didn't really know I was
- 45:38concussed, but I just felt like I was on, like I had to throw
- 45:40up. So I thought maybe a sign back
- 45:43for training. Yeah.
- 45:46But well, the headaches to end the irritation from the lights
- 45:52on top of being nauseous. Nauseous.
- 45:57I looked it up. That's what made me look it up.
- 45:59And then I went to the hospital. Yeah.
- 46:02Wow. That's good.
- 46:03That's good. You went to the hospital.
- 46:08Have you ever been concussed in a fight?
- 46:10Yeah. That's not a lot of the fight
- 46:12that happened is fine. OK, OK.
- 46:15But never in a fight. You've never got concussions
- 46:17from fighting. That's 'cause you keep.
- 46:19Your hands up, that's what. That's the one thing that I
- 46:22thought was when was was stupid for Jake Paul in that fight with
- 46:25with Anthea Joshua by the middle of the.
- 46:27First hand, his hands off. Right.
- 46:28Well, he started and then his hands are down here.
- 46:31And so, so you as a boxer, you're in the ring with
- 46:33somebody. His hands are down here.
- 46:35That's just fair game in your head, right?
- 46:36Like I'm going to light you up. Yeah, I don't know what he was
- 46:42thinking like. That's what I kept saying.
- 46:44I'm not even a. Boxer what?
- 46:45Put your hands. On your face.
- 46:47He looked like he was in the shoulder roll stance.
- 46:49Like when people see me in the shoulder roll, like my last
- 46:51fight, like I was in the shoulder roll a good amount of
- 46:53times. But I know how to use that
- 46:55defense. Like if somebody got an open
- 46:58lane to my face, I'm pretty much gonna roll it off my shoulder.
- 47:02So my shoulder rolls like that, Shoulders like you turn like
- 47:04that. Yeah, and you keep your chin,
- 47:07cutting your shoulder and like his angles, you got to use your
- 47:10legs. With it.
- 47:11Oh, OK. It's my shoot a shot.
- 47:12You can ride your shoulder up, you know, roll under, but it's
- 47:17not it's more into that it's a real response.
- 47:21It's Floyd master that he but yeah, far as Jake Paul, it
- 47:27looked like he was in the show roll position, but he didn't do
- 47:30nothing. No, he kept letting him hit him
- 47:32in the face. Yeah, and he kept dropping to
- 47:34his knees and hugging him. Yeah.
- 47:36This time the way he was boxing you 200 lbs like you need to be
- 47:41bought like that as since adolescence.
- 47:44You can't just wait till you a grown man and try to use the use
- 47:47your feet like that's a real draining style to try to use
- 47:52like a like I leave box like that moved around the entire
- 47:56time. Except people dope the rope a
- 48:00dope stuff. When he got older and his legs
- 48:03wasn't the same. Oh, so that's when I transferred
- 48:07to that kind of stuff. OK, see you shit you learned
- 48:09talking to Jig man. And when you your legs
- 48:14everybody, won't they last be the same?
- 48:16I guess nobody last stay the same as a a stuff for LeBron.
- 48:20But but yeah, your lads start tending to go as you get older.
- 48:27But somebody like Jake Paul don't try to use that style.
- 48:32I could tell Anthony, Joshua, Noah wasn't our That's why I
- 48:35just kept walking forward. Yeah, he did.
- 48:38I was. Yeah.
- 48:39I was surprised it took him as long as it did to knock him out.
- 48:42But like you said, he was he was painting his own picture.
- 48:45You know, he's he's earning his $92 million now.
- 48:49He's quite. Go ahead, Go ahead.
- 48:51Sorry. No, I'm sorry.
- 48:52Go ahead. Now we see somebody using the
- 48:55whole ring like that. They got to produce that in
- 48:57shape to be able to box like that the whole fight.
- 49:02That makes sense. Absolutely.
- 49:04That totally makes sense. People just know like float like
- 49:07a butterfly, sting like a bee. What they don't understand how
- 49:09draining it is to be floating like that.
- 49:12Yeah, yeah, Especially for as heavy as Ollie fought because he
- 49:16was heavyweight, so. And Jake, that was.
- 49:20Right. It's like, right?
- 49:21That's true. Knowing that style not going to
- 49:22work like when I see him doing that like.
- 49:25Game over, game over. It's a lot easier for you and I
- 49:29at our weight to bounce around than it is somebody that's 225
- 49:33definitely for an extended period of time that that totally
- 49:36makes sense. Yep.
- 49:39Absolutely, absolutely. We got about 5 minutes left here
- 49:43because we know you want to get on with your life.
- 49:45Anything you want to share, anything you want to talk about,
- 49:47promote, you know, now's your chance to do that because you
- 49:50know, we're all about helping you get your name out there, my
- 49:52friend. Oh man, it's always good to talk
- 49:55to you guys. This hip hop sweatshop.
- 49:59Yeah, I know, I know we touched on that, but I really like for
- 50:03the women in the area and surround the area to check it
- 50:05out at least once. And tell everybody where you're
- 50:09at. Again, I'm.
- 50:09Going to pull it up again too while you're talking.
- 50:12I'm at frontline warriors gym in Bradenton, the address is on the
- 50:16fire. I'm sure Christian might post it
- 50:18for me. I'm going to pull it up right.
- 50:21Now pulling it up right now as well.
- 50:24Like whatever your fitness goals are, it's a great addition to
- 50:27that. Yep, so there it is.
- 50:30It's at the 715 5th St. E.
- 50:33It's the frontline warrior gym. You need to bring a yoga mat,
- 50:37two 5 LB dumbbells and yourself, your pretty ass self because
- 50:41you're going to get in in shape. You're going to sweat, sculpt
- 50:44and vibe. So you can find you can find Jig
- 50:48on Instagram at AT action Jig JIGG.
- 50:51You can find him on Facebook at Jig Johnson.
- 50:53And then you can also on this on this little flyer here.
- 50:55You can text Coach Jig at 813-401-1993 For more
- 50:59information about Hip Hop Sweatshop as well as all his
- 51:02upcoming endeavors in the boxing world.
- 51:06And real quick, while we're on the subject, everybody start
- 51:10going to the Chris and mikeshow.com because Jake did
- 51:16what he was asked. And one of the reasons we're
- 51:18asking people to go fill out the registration form is now that's
- 51:22there forever. And whatever socials that Jake
- 51:25wanted are there, they're linked there.
- 51:28So you guys go to our website now, Chris and mikeshow.com, and
- 51:32all the guests will be filling out things that they want you to
- 51:35go check out. So his Instagram is there and
- 51:38whatever else you put there. I saw you had a couple things
- 51:40there. Yeah, that's really cool.
- 51:44Yeah, it's it's super cool and it's cool.
- 51:47It's cool too now, because last time on the show we didn't have
- 51:49a website yet, Jake. Now we have a website.
- 51:50Mike built the website. It's.
- 51:52Just another way for you guys to promote yourself.
- 51:54Exactly. And then we learned today, Mike
- 51:56learned he actually whenever we do our shows now, they actually
- 51:59can be watched live on the website.
- 52:01So it's an easy place to go. Plus the fact that we've
- 52:05partnered with Riverside FM because we do so all our stuff
- 52:08on Riverside FM. So they helped absorb the cost
- 52:11first for the year for what we spend money to do the podcast.
- 52:15So that's kind of neat. We're finally a paid podcasting
- 52:17show, which is pretty neat. Yeah.
- 52:20So shout out to Riverside FM. We forget that.
- 52:24Shout out to you, Jake Johnson. Man, you're super nice.
- 52:26Dude, you're such a such a your life resume is fantastic.
- 52:29You're such a well spoken, humble human until you get into
- 52:33that ring. If you've never, ever watched
- 52:37Jake Johnson fight, Google him. Watch some of his fights.
- 52:39It's it's outstanding. We showed some of his photos
- 52:41earlier in the podcast today. Just even even last the first
- 52:46time you're on Ash afterwards Ash was like, man, you guys got
- 52:48jigged a smile. We pulled you out of your shell,
- 52:53man. With you, he was you at your
- 52:58grandma's house that time. And you, I think you just woke
- 53:00up and you were just, you were so peace.
- 53:03OK. Yeah, yeah.
- 53:04You were so at peace and just relaxed.
- 53:06It's like, like, and I'm like afterwards, like this guy's a
- 53:08boxer. And then we watched your fight.
- 53:10Like holy shit. He's a bad man when he gets in
- 53:15the ring, ladies and gentlemen, I can tell you that.
- 53:17It's like that Pulp Fiction scene right where where they're
- 53:20getting robbed at the at the diner or the the breakfast
- 53:23place. And oh.
- 53:23Yeah, Sandwich Jack. Yeah, Sandwich Jack's carriage's
- 53:26like look in that bag in my my wallet.
- 53:28How do I know which wallet? Because it's a bad motherfucker.
- 53:30Oh, here you go. You're awesome man.
- 53:36Thank you so much for your time. We appreciate.
- 53:38It hey, when you get an opponent for your next fight, get a hold
- 53:41of Chris and we'll have you back on to promote the upcoming
- 53:44fight. Yeah, please.
- 53:45Please do that, man. For sure, for sure, because you
- 53:48know, we can be flexible on fighters like crazy.
- 53:50So you figured that out. You let us know, we'll get you
- 53:52back on for sure. OK, cool, cool.
- 53:56Hey, as we always do, If you're feeling sorrow, depressed,
- 54:00suicidal, don't do it. Somebody will miss you.
- 54:02Somebody Loves You. Don't leave a hole in somebody's
- 54:04heart because you choose not to be here tomorrow.
- 54:06Go outside for a run, go join a hip hop class, go join a boxing
- 54:11gym. Figure out something to kind of
- 54:12change your mindset and get healthier outlook on life.
- 54:15If you can't find somebody, talk to you.
- 54:16Text 988. Somebody is standing there ready
- 54:19to talk you off that ledge. So you do wake up tomorrow and
- 54:21you are present in somebody else's life because somebody
- 54:23does love you and they will miss you if you're gone for Mike and
- 54:26Chris and Mr. Jig Johnson or, you know, Frederick Johnson, it
- 54:30just doesn't roll with me, man. You're Jig Tell.
- 54:34Hey, congratulations on the new baby too, man.
- 54:37I love the I love the absolutely father and, you know, enjoy that
- 54:41journey because dude, I'm telling you, my kids are 30 and
- 54:44or 29 and 25 and it's it's like that, man, little man, 6 years
- 54:49old, my grandson six years old already.
- 54:52It's crazy. Absolutely crazy.
- 54:54Cherish the moments, man. Little things.
- 54:56Little things for sure. Trust me.
- 54:58Until next time, everybody. We'll see you.
- 55:00Love you, Mike. Love you, Jig.
- 55:01Love you too. You're safe, man.
- 55:02Have a great day. Don't go anywhere yet.
- 55:04We'll make sure you get uploaded.
- 55:06Oh, I hit stop, Mike. I hit stop.
- 55:30Be on the trail behind your eyes, feel yourself and meet
- 55:35your girl. Take a moment.
- 55:41Look. Until you see him fight your
- 55:43battle, that you must weer, Fight your battle, but you must
- 55:50weer. Who is your baby to you?
- 57:11Now you turn it, come down here, we bounce all these things down
- 57:20from fighting, wait for the dead when it's closer.
- 57:25I'm here for the wind. You ain't no quizzes.
- 57:30We're playing spam and you should.
- 57:33You put it on the almighty day you gotta dream through in your
- 57:39life to keep our soul in every man.
- 57:45Take the trail behind your eyes. Feel the soul revolution now.
- 57:50Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 58:02Take a moment. Look at you.
- 58:04See him fight the bail in two more clear.
- 58:34You gotta. You gotta.
- 58:37You gotta. You gotta.