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HHBSO 9: The Worst Recruiter Ever · He's Hot but Something's Off...

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  Hello, welcome to He's Hop. But something's off of me.
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  Just Joey T It is Wednesday that I'm recording this.
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  And for those who are watching the video version of the
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  podcast, which is available on Spotify and also on my YouTube
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  channel, Just Joey TI have a sweatband around my forehead.
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  Not because I am sweaty, but it's to push my hair back.
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  For most of my life I've had really short hair.
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  Like most. Guys do, but at the beginning of
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  the pandemic I decided to grow my hair out.
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  Actually there was a face and I was like 8 or 9 years old where
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  I had longer hair. That center split very like mid
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  90s. But early in the pandemic I
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  decided to grow my hair out and then I did it for like 6 or
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  seven months. I didn't have that much to do
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  during the early days of the pandemic anyways and since then
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  I've had. Slightly longish hair in some
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  way shape or form. And then a few months ago I
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  decided to cut it a little bit shorter, maybe back to like a
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  couple inches, and I don't know, like it that much.
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  I'm going my hair out a little bit, but what's really annoying
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  for me is having the hair in my face, like when my hair is long
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  enough where it gets down to. My eyelids or my eyes?
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  I find it really annoying, especially when I'm trying to
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  put my skin cur on and the hair is just like in the way.
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  So in my bathroom I keep one of these sweat bands just where I
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  keep all my product, so that when in the morning or at night
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  when I'm putting on moisturizer or lotion, whatever, I put the
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  ban on to keep my hair like pulled back.
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  And then I can like, do my face. Basically.
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  The other thing you notice if you're watching the video
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  version of the podcast is I've got two mics here today because
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  I'm playing around with some of the audio and there's like
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  something I'm trying to figure out.
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  Very, very techie, very, very technical.
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  But yeah, I just got back from getting groceries and I was like
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  really frustrated getting groceries.
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  And I used to only get groceries when it's night time, when it's
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  not busy. And for whatever reason, for
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  like the last several months I've been going to get groceries
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  doing rush hour. And I was driving back from
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  groceries today and I'm like, I used to do the smart thing to
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  not be out and about doing rush hour to run chores.
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  Why am I doing this now? We're not going to do this
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  again. It's because when I need to go
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  get groceries, I'll drive and. And most of the days I'm going
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  to the gym. So in my head I'm thinking,
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  okay. I need to get groceries, which
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  means I need to drive. So why don't we just combine it
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  with the gym? Because you're going to the gym
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  anyways, so it's an excuse to drive to the gym, basically.
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  So I'll drive to the gym, and then I'll do my gym, and then
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  when I'm done with the gym, it's usually like four, 4:35 o'clock
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  in the afternoon. Then I will drive to the Whole
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  Foods and West Hollywood and I get groceries and I come home.
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  So on paper this sounds great, right?
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  Like if you're going to leave the house for whatever reason
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  anyways. It's like when you're coming
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  home from work, you pick up whatever you need for like
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  groceries or whatever. It's like the common smart thing
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  to do, right? It's not smart for me to go to
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  the gym and then get groceries when it's rush hour and they
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  come back home. For a few different reasons.
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  Number one, I'm very tired after the gym #2 I haven't eaten
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  anything for like two or three hours by then, so I'm hungry.
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  So put those two things together.
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  That means I'm hangry, usually at the end of the gym.
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  And then now you put a hangry Joey into LA rush hour traffic
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  and then you need hangry Joey after having driven in rush hour
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  traffic in Los Angeles to go find a parking spot in a parking
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  lot that is 1/2 small second completely packed 3 where like
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  no one is looking where they're going.
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  I had two cars almost back into me after I parked.
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  Today in that Whole Foods parking lot, that's not like the
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  typical occurrence, but I was like, I parked my car and I was
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  just walking their cars driving by.
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  So I was just walking behind the parked cars.
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  And then this one car, like almost backed into me.
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  And then when I was done getting groceries, walking back to my
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  car, this like massive SUV almost like, again backed into
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  me again. So yeah.
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  These are all the reasons why I'm not supposed to go get
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  groceries in the middle of the day, and I figured this out a
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  long time ago. For some reason there's been a
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  regression. So I'm now reminding myself do
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  not go get groceries in the middle of the day.
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  I used to go at like 9 PM, 8:30 or 9:00 PM on a weekday, like a
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  Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday where like no one's really out.
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  The grocery store is a very lovely place when it's 9:00 PM,
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  like an hour or so before they close.
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  But there's not that many people in there.
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  I don't like going to like the mall.
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  I was talking to a friend recently.
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  I don't like going to a mall. I don't like anywhere where
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  there is people walking slowly, that they're not looking where
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  they're going, and then they'll just suddenly like, stop or
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  change directions or anything like that.
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  It's very trying for me to be in that type of environment.
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  So being in a mall, especially if it's busy, like on a weekend,
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  the last place you find me in Sun Mall, if you see me at a
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  shopping center or a mall on a weekend especially, it's only
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  because there's been some dire emergency and I need to
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  emergency buy something and the only way to buy that thing that
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  I need right now is at that mall.
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  That's the only reason you catch me at a shopping center on a
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  weekend or anytime it's busy. Also, I shouldn't be shopping,
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  but I'm hungry. It's don't go grocery shopping
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  when you're hungry, right? Everyone's learned that lesson
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  by now. Because when you're hungry you
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  go into grocery store, you over buy things.
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  So I think I bought like a few extra things too much because I
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  just went to the gym. I haven't eaten a few hours, I'm
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  tired, I'm really hungry. It's just like throwing
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  everything into the basket, but. Yeah, also in this particular
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  hopeless parking lot, the parking spots are way too
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  narrow. So you get a lot of spots where
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  the cars on either side, they're like on the line.
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  Not because they are horrible drivers, but they're not great
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  drivers, but because the each spot is barely wide enough to
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  like fit your car, where every once in a while you get an empty
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  spot in this parking lot because.
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  Only like the narrowest of cars will be able to fit into them
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  because every spot is just like drawn up, too narrow.
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  It's a it's a parking. It's a parking lot that is
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  basically designed to frustrate you, is too small for all the
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  stores that are there. It's like this like little strip
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  mall thing. It's not just hope, it's like
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  other shops and stuff there. It's too small for all the
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  shopping that is available there.
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  It's. Especially considering it's in
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  the middle of Elway, it's in the middle West Hollywood.
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  And the spots are like too small.
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  And like the traffic control in that place is like horrible.
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  And I usually like driving, but like I used to go driving for
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  fun when I was in college, for example.
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  I would sometimes go out, especially at night time when
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  it's quiet and I would just go on drives just to drive.
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  I don't, I haven't done that in years, literally because.
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  When I'm driving, it's just get to get get to from A to B.
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  And also LA traffic doesn't make, it doesn't make driving
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  fun. It's not fun to drive an LA
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  traffic. It's coming from someone who I
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  love driving, I love cars and to actually get out of the LA
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  traffic so they can actually enjoy the act of driving, you
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  need to be. You need to spend some time to
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  make it way out of LA first. So you need to.
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  It needs to be. At not busy time of the week or
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  the day, it needs to be like at night or something like that.
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  Or get up super early and you need to like get out of Elway.
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  There's no finding roads within LA proper anyway, so you need to
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  like get to the PCH or get like a little bit at least to the
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  edge of the city and then maybe you can find some good roads.
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  There's a lot of good driving roads in SoCal, but I'm just
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  busy enough even though I don't have a day job right now to.
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  Actually go and like, just drive for fun.
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  Also like the the car insurance isn't getting any cheaper.
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  My car just got T boned by a stupid bitch, which I'm still
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  shorting out. So yeah, I used to drive for fun
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  and like, yeah, just LA is just if you live in the middle of the
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  city and you need to get out of the city to drive for fun, yeah,
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  that's it's it takes a lot sometimes.
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  I used to commute an hour each way in LA.
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  Because I used to have a job in Santa Monica.
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  That's where the offices is. Pre Pandemic, it was 45 minutes
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  to drive there in the morning. There's no highways really
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  between West Hollywood and Santa Monica.
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  It's all surface streets and then it be almost an hour to get
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  back. I remember there were a couple
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  of times where it took over an hour to come back from work.
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  That doesn't sound that great. What I mean it doesn't sound
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  that horrible for to take like an hour to get home from a
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  commute in a large place like LA County.
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  But it was 10 miles to the do that commute.
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  The distance was only 10 miles each way. 45 minutes to do a
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  mile is not so horrible if it takes you over an hour in like
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  stop and go traffic. To do 10 miles, like that's a
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  lot of stop and go. So what?
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  Thank God I don't have that job anymore and I well, I don't have
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  any job right now. But I've actually been looking
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  for jobs kind of sort of frequently.
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  I'm not super seriously like searching for jobs like most
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  people would if they were actually looking for a proper
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  job. You know, I I could put more
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  effort into it, but I'm very much.
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  If the right job with the right company appears and I'm
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  interested, then I'll apply. I feel like I'm so much more
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  picky about the type of company that I might want to work for.
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  Am I also totally prepared now mentally to not go back to the
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  IT career? I'm trying to work in some side
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  hustles and I'm also trying to start a business, so I'm ahead,
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  I'm thinking. Well, it's feasible to like just
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  not go back and have to 9:00 to 5:00 and have that paycheck from
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  like a company. But if the right type of company
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  has the right kind of opening available, which is a little bit
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  like needle in a haystack, I feel like most people look for a
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  day job they. Care somewhat about the type of
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  company they are going to apply and might potentially work for.
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  Whereas for me, just given where I am right now and my
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  experiences with the companies I work with, I feel like I am so
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  picky about the type of company that I might want to work for.
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  Not because I think the companies I don't want to work
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  for a bad company. It's just that, for example, I
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  don't want to work for just like a random software company.
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  Like you're running the most tech company like I don't know
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  what what are you doing that's so interesting that makes me
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  want to care about the the, the product or service that you're
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  offering. And I also feel like a lot of
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  companies kind of expect everyone that works for them and
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  applies for them to drink their kool-aid.
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  They add this thing where I feel like a lot of companies
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  especially like startup tech type companies.
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  It almost feels a bit like a cult.
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  It's like they want to hear that you're like so super Gaga over
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  their product or service or their business model.
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  And before you even talk to any of the interviewers, you're
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  supposed to have like done your homework and be so knowledge
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  about what the company does and what they stand for, what their
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  values are. I did one I want call with a
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  recruiter with a very wellknown large tech company.
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  Which I let's keep it nameless, might be more fun that way.
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  And this was a couple months ago and it was for some random
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  position which is up my alley, is kind of the type of IT
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  position I have experienced in that would want to look for.
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  And they actually reached out to me.
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  You know, there are recruiters and HR positions in companies
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  where they will go. See if there any potential
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  candidates out there on like LinkedIn or wherever.
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  So they contacted me, I didn't know about that position and
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  they set up a call. We're telling this recruiter and
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  I just a few, just a few issues here.
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  Number one, I didn't like the way that particular recruiter
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  conducted the call. For example, there's one
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  question where she was saying just very briefly, can you just
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  give me a summary of your experience and encompass you
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  work for since you graduated. So basically like a quick
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  summary of like the the companies that are on my resume
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  basically. And I basically gave her a quick
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  summary, but she literally said like give me like a quick
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  summary. So I only talked for like 45 to
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  60 seconds. And then she was like, well, I
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  wouldn't need more information than that.
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  So if you bitch, if you ask for something quick and you got
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  something quick, I mean don't be a fucking hypocrite.
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  So and then the second thing, I didn't like about her, and I
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  don't like this when I interview candidates or talk to candidates
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  for a company and I've been hiring manager for like a few
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  years now. Even outside of that, I've
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  interviewed like at least over like 100 candidates.
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  Probably maybe like closer to 200.
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  Just in over my entire like work career I've talked to like a lot
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  of potential candidates and I've been in that on that side of the
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  desk where I'm a hiring manager. I'm working with the recruiters
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  in my company trying to decide what do we need for this
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  position, what kind of candidate would be a good fit, discussing
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  different candidate at the final stage and who to actually give
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  an offer to or not, right? This recruiter did one thing
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  that I tried very hard not to do, which is.
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  Fish for certain answers. You want to hear in from a
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  candidate, right? So if you're going to ask a
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  question, if you want to know something about a candidate and
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  you kind of want to know whether they have a specific skill or
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  experience or not, bitch, just ask like do you know a BC?
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  Yes or no? Very straightforward, very easy.
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  This recruiter was not doing that, so.
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  This recruiter, it kind of sounded like she was given a
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  script of questions to ask all the candidates, maybe from like
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  the hiring team or the hiring manager.
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  And I can kind of tell by the way she was reading them out.
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  So she was reading out these questions and then I would give
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  an answer and then she would be like, well, but like what about
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  this type of a thing? So I would be like, OK, oh about
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  that thing, OK, This experience I have or this what I know what
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  don't know about that thing. But then she did that like
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  multiple times and it just really sounded like she could
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  have been a lot more efficient And she said do you know XYZ?
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  That could have been a yes or no question.
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  It would have saved us like a ton of time and not have it feel
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  like we have to make all these detours in this like
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  conversation that is taking way too long.
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  She said I was going to be 30 minute call.
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  It became like 45 minutes only because of her to be really
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  honest. And here's the final kicker with
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  this person which is she asked all these questions, we talked
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  for like over 30 minutes and we're running overtime now and
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  then she's like okay, thanks for your for all the answers
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  actually looking for someone who has like this and we have other
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  candidates that have had have experience of like X&Y&Z and I'm
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  like a bit worried because a BC. I'm thinking like what are you
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  trying to what is the purpose of like fishing for answers but not
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  asking me those things directly and then telling me like, well,
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  I'm kind of worried because you're not second against these
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  other candidates that have like XYZ.
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  If you really, if you knew you needed certain skills or certain
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  experiences for the role, just ask like do you have X?
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  Do you know why you have expensive Z?
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  Like this recruiter was just one of the worst recruiters I've
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  ever talked to honestly. So like this, which is why I'm
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  not going to like name drop this company.
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  But like this person, if I was working, I was on the other side
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  of the table and I was like the hiring team or hiring manager
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  and I shouted her and this is how she was talked to a tenant,
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  I'll be like, I'll pour away privately and I'll be like, OK,
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  this is what I need you to ask and like, you're talking in
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  circles. Like you're you're trying to
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  fish certain answers out of people and you're just hoping
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  that they give you the answer that they want under your vague
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  question. But you're also like trying to
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  slap them on the back of the wrist at the end by telling them
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  like they don't stack up. Or like telling them like
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  basically, hey, I'm fishing you for these answers and you're not
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  giving them to me, so I'm worried about you, so.
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  Yeah, like you don't fish for answers if you're if you're in a
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  position and you in a company where you're asked to hire
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  people or you've been asked to be on the interview panel.
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  Like just think about what qualifications or skills or
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  experience or you know, traits that you need from the person to
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  fill this role makes you have a good understanding of.
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  A role itself. What's needed for that role?
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  Do some research if you're not that familiar with the role that
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  you're in doing for, and then make sure you ask good
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  questions. If there's a particular type of
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  answer that you want to hear. For an open-ended question, that
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  should be a red flag. If you ask open-ended question,
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  it should be an open-ended answer.
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  And sometimes the answer is not so important as how the Canada
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  got there, right, so. I'm not going to join on and on
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  anymore. This wasn't even on my original
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  list of things to talk about today.
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  But yeah, I'm driving. Really gets me going.
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  Don't get me started on like bad drivers again.
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  I told you guys I just had this person that T boned the side of
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  my car and it was like totally not my fault.
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  And now I'm out like thousands of dollars.
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  Not for the repair. This insurance is going to cover
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  it, but like. You know, like no one wants to
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  buy a damaged car. That's been an accident before
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  and I'm in the process to get a new car.
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  Anyways, let's switch topics. The Choice Concert.
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  So I was in Chicago about a week ago.
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  It was last week, Wednesday that I was in Chicago with my friend
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  Eric and went to the Choice Concert twice.
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  A very popular K pop group, mostly the more popular in South
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  Korea. They're getting some popularity
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  in the US, but they're not on the level of like, black, pink
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  over here. It's a really good, really good
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  concert. If you saw me at that concert,
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  like I was fangirling so hard. I legit thought I was going to
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  lose my voice after that concert was over.
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  But like, I my voice was 100% OK afterwards.
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  But it was really cool to like. It's like seeing a celebrity on
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  the street kind of a thing, right?
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  So people that you've only ever seen.
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  On screen or like you hear the music on your phone or whatever.
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  And then when you see them in person, it's like so weird for
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  your head to like put two and two together that oh, like these
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  people's music that I've been like listening to and like their
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  videos that I've been watching so much of on YouTube or on TV.
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  It's like the same people that's like in the same physical space
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  with you right now, they actually play for.
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  I think 2 1/2 or almost three hours was like just from like to
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  start to the stop. They had a few moments where
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  like they did breaks. I'm obviously for like a 2 1/2
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  hour, 3 hour concert, but I was surprised how long the concert
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  went on. We really got like our bang for
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  the buck for it. We were kind of sort of like
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  halfway up the not the bleachers, but it was in United
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  Center in Chicago. It's this huge stadium and then
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  basically you have the seating that's like on like the ground
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  floor like stage level or like little below stage level.
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  And then you have the seating that's like up the side all
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  around the edge of the stadium. You have like the lower level,
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  the mid level and like the upper level.
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  So we're in the mid level kind of on the side.
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  It's really hard to like see. Maybe just look directly onto
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  the stage. It's like a little far away.
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  But honestly, it wasn't that bad.
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  And given that, Eric, thank you for paying for my ticket and let
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  me like, crash in your hotel room.
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  Yeah, but I haven't been to a concert since.
• 22:29
  This is the second concert I've ever went to.
• 22:31
  I don't feel like I'm a concert type of a person, really.
• 22:36
  So even after this concert. Which is a really good concert.
• 22:40
  And for like pretty much one of the only groups or artists that
• 22:47
  I actually go to a concert for. Even after that I was like, I
• 22:51
  don't think I necessarily need to do this all the time.
• 22:55
  I'm just not a concert type person.
• 22:58
  But I I did have a really good time.
• 23:00
  You saw me at the concert, you would be like, this is Joey,
• 23:03
  this Joey's. It's a very different Joey.
• 23:06
  Joey is fangirling hard. I was singing to like all the
• 23:09
  songs that I knew. I was dancing to the ones that I
• 23:12
  knew the choreography to. So it was actually like a
• 23:15
  really, really good time. Unfortunately, there's been a
• 23:19
  lot of weather on the East Coast last week and I5 of United.
• 23:25
  Unfortunately I5 United not because I like United.
• 23:29
  Fly with United because they're part of Star Alliance and
• 23:31
  they've got a lot of really good airlines alliance that I fly
• 23:36
  with, which is like Singapore Airlines A and a Eva Air to name
• 23:42
  a few. But that's why I'm actually with
• 23:44
  United. But United got hit pretty bad
• 23:46
  with like all the traffic and all like the delays and
• 23:50
  cancellations and all that kind of stuff last week, so coming
• 23:53
  back from New York. Like a week and a half ago last
• 23:57
  episode I talked about how I got delayed and I missed a
• 23:59
  connection coming back from Chicago last Wednesday from the
• 24:02
  concert. I also miss my connection
• 24:04
  because the weather and also like United just effing up
• 24:07
  everything so they're more flight flight delays.
• 24:10
  Again, I was on my final flight that got rescheduled to come
• 24:14
  back to LAX and I was sitting there and then they kept having
• 24:18
  to. Delayed the flight which is
• 24:21
  still at the gate this There were thunderstorms in the area
• 24:24
  and there was lightning and every time there was a lightning
• 24:26
  in the vicinity of the airport they have to close the ramp.
• 24:30
  Quote UN quote. It's the term where anyone who
• 24:32
  is a ground crew at all the ground staff at the airport,
• 24:36
  including the people that will push the airplanes back from the
• 24:39
  gate, they will have to like. Take cover and go inside for
• 24:43
  safety reasons. And then every time there's
• 24:45
  lightning, they have to do that for like 10 minutes.
• 24:47
  They start a timer apparently. So we're sitting on this plane
• 24:50
  for, I think we're staying on the plane for like an hour and a
• 24:52
  half, almost two hours before from when we boarded to when we
• 24:56
  actually, like, was able to like, head to the runway and
• 24:59
  actually take off. But during the hour and a half,
• 25:03
  this guy behind me was snoring like hardcore, to the point
• 25:07
  where I like I had my Airpods noise casting earbuds in.
• 25:11
  And I was like watching a video or something on my iPad.
• 25:15
  I could hear this guy snore and like he was so loud.
• 25:19
  I'm sure like half the plane for him snore.
• 25:23
  It was like really hardcore snoring.
• 25:25
  I was thinking, I wasn't super annoyed, but I was thinking
• 25:30
  turning around in my seat and telling him if you stop snoring,
• 25:33
  I won't. We climb my seat into your face
• 25:34
  for the whole fight. But I, I, I, I wasn't that
• 25:37
  adored. I was just thinking of that.
• 25:38
  I wasn't gonna actually. Say that to him.
• 25:41
  But he was snoring really, really loud.
• 25:44
  OK, so to wrap up another episode of the podcast as usual,
• 25:50
  but not for that much longer. We're coming to the end of the
• 25:51
  season and talk a little bit. RuPaul's Drag Race, Some stars
• 25:55
  season eight. I think we're up to episode 9 by
• 25:59
  now. So we actually have our top
• 26:01
  three, which is Jimbo, Candy and Jessica and Alexis.
• 26:06
  Michelle was eliminated this time.
• 26:10
  This was the Carson Crestley Roast, and one the only thing I
• 26:17
  really noticed that I want to comment on, it's not about the
• 26:20
  episode itself, was about some of the comments that were made
• 26:27
  on this YouTube video that I saw.
• 26:29
  So at Roscoe's in Chicago, they do a viewing party every week of
• 26:35
  each episode and it's what's her name.
• 26:40
  It is blah, blah, blah, blah blah.
• 26:44
  It's Natia Lopez that hosts it, and every week they have some
• 26:49
  guests, Drag Queens come on. And this week the guests were
• 26:56
  Alexis, Michelle and Lala Rhee. So I didn't actually watch the
• 27:00
  whole replay of the Roscoe's viewing party, but I was doing
• 27:06
  something on a computer. I was working on something, and
• 27:08
  I just wanted to have something on the background.
• 27:10
  So I put on a fan video where they just did highlights of both
• 27:18
  the episode, but especially of what was said in this Roscoe's
• 27:21
  viewing party. So in this recap video they were
• 27:26
  highlighting things that Alexis Michelle said, but it's been
• 27:30
  kind of controversial. Things that she said and done on
• 27:34
  the show so far, me and David Lamb.
• 27:36
  When we found out that Alexis going home this week, we're both
• 27:41
  thinking. It's about time.
• 27:43
  Production kept her there until like the top three or whatever,
• 27:47
  because hey, it's good TV, it's good production, you know,
• 27:51
  mixing, entertaining. I get it doesn't matter if you
• 27:54
  know, you have a favorite queen. And whether that's Alexis or
• 27:57
  not, she was, she's very talented.
• 27:58
  She's done very, very well. You know, again, objectively, in
• 28:01
  terms of like her performance, I felt like she did deserve to
• 28:05
  make it this far. But me and David both kind of
• 28:10
  saw that. We didn't see Alexis being in
• 28:13
  like the top three and not winning the crown because we
• 28:17
  just thought there were other Queens that probably could go
• 28:19
  for there, which happened to be the case.
• 28:21
  Alexis went home this week, but apparently, according to this
• 28:25
  fan recap, the Roscoes. Viewing party thing wasn't like
• 28:31
  the kindest to Alexis Michelle. It's like there's a live
• 28:35
  audience there. Roscoe's like a bar, so there's
• 28:37
  people there all doing the watch party and then they also get to
• 28:41
  like do a Q&A. So apparently some of the things
• 28:43
  that Alexis said because obviously going to ask her about
• 28:46
  like, oh that if y'all had in the workroom with Jimbo and
• 28:51
  Candy and a Heidi where Heidi said oh like.
• 28:57
  Yeah, Alexis didn't Candy say this and that about Jimbo, about
• 29:01
  trying to like, get him out of the competition, blah blah blah
• 29:04
  blah. And then I guess the good thing
• 29:09
  is, Alexis had a chance to explain her side of the story,
• 29:15
  but apparently some of the fans at Roscoe's didn't really buy it
• 29:18
  and like, so I if I have a lot of time to kill, I'll try to
• 29:24
  watch it. But yeah, the one thing they
• 29:28
  kept reiterating as well is this is like ATV show first of all.
• 29:32
  And I agree with that. You know, the TV shows put on
• 29:35
  for entertainment purposes. Yes, it is also a competition on
• 29:41
  the surprise at the end and all that stuff.
• 29:43
  But you know, first and foremost it is a TV show meant for
• 29:47
  entertainment and you have to separate a little bit from the
• 29:50
  TV show itself. To who the Queens actually are
• 29:54
  outside of the show, because the show is like a bit of like a
• 29:58
  unique environment. So that I think it's important
• 30:00
  for all the fans to keep in mind.
• 30:03
  Like I talked one or two episodes ago about me not being
• 30:09
  the biggest fan of Les Michelle, and that's fine.
• 30:11
  You don't have to be in love with every single drag queen.
• 30:14
  People are going to have their biases and their favorites
• 30:18
  there. Doesn't mean I.
• 30:20
  Hate her or I think anything bad should happen to her.
• 30:22
  Like I said, she's very talented.
• 30:25
  It's totally legit that she got this far.
• 30:27
  If you just look at her performances in the various
• 30:30
  challenges like you know, like she she did well on paper,
• 30:34
  right? Again, whether you like, whether
• 30:39
  what a queen said on a particular episode of the TV
• 30:43
  show or you like. The list that they depict or
• 30:46
  not, that's partially just a TV show.
• 30:50
  And again, they're producers. They're nudging things this way
• 30:53
  or that. You have to detach that a little
• 30:57
  bit from, hey, what are they like outside of the show, right?
• 31:01
  But for a lot of people, the only glimpse that they get into
• 31:05
  a lot of these Queens is. The TV show, right.
• 31:08
  The TV show, put them on the map, a NASA platform, and you
• 31:10
  get to be on TV. And for a lot of these Queens,
• 31:14
  that's how they get their breakout and until, like, the
• 31:18
  global stage, if you will, right.
• 31:20
  So yeah, it is what it is. I keep on talking a lot on
• 31:24
  these. Podcast.
• 31:25
  So we're at 30 minutes now, so we're going to wrap it up here.
• 31:30
  But don't be surprised if next week we're we start doing 2
• 31:34
  episodes a week. Maybe I have to come down to
• 31:36
  like 20 something 20 minutes or something like that, because I
• 31:40
  have a list here. Actually, I have my laptop here
• 31:43
  if you guys have noticed. Watching the video podcast, I
• 31:46
  have a whole bunch of things I want to talk about.
• 31:49
  I have like a little bit of outline.
• 31:50
  You should have a few bullet points.
• 31:52
  For every episode, this podcast that I record and I bring it up
• 31:55
  in this doc, all the things that are bullets for this episode
• 32:01
  actually didn't talk about most of them because I just went on
• 32:03
  and off for like 3 topics, one of them which was not even on
• 32:08
  the list at all. And I want to make sure these
• 32:11
  guys make sure these episodes are kind of lightweight.
• 32:14
  I don't want to talk for like a full hour.
• 32:15
  I know you all have other podcasts that you subscribe to
• 32:18
  and love to hear as well, and I want to keep it.
• 32:21
  Channel Lights. So yeah, if I make that change,
• 32:24
  well, make sure you subscribe to the podcast wherever you get all
• 32:27
  your podcasts. Again, just a video version of
• 32:29
  this podcast. You want to see Me with my two
• 32:32
  mics and my headband. This week on Spotify and also on
• 32:36
  my YouTube channel. Just Joey T But until next time,
• 32:40
  bye.