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- 0:02Hello everyone, and welcome to another episode of Chatting with the Experts TV
- 0:08show with me, Paula Okonneh, as the host.
- 0:12Every week I bring to you dynamic women from Africa, from the Caribbean,
- 0:17and in the diaspora, and what they do is together with me, we inspire, we
- 0:25motivate, and we educate women globally.
- 0:29My guests are always, I say they're dynamic.
- 0:33They're amazing.
- 0:33I love that word amazing.
- 0:35But even more importantly, they are professionals and
- 0:39successful business owners.
- 0:41They are women who are striving in every which way to make
- 0:46a difference in the world.
- 0:48So today, we are going to be talking about changing the world
- 0:52one backpack at a time, and with me to do that will be Abong Fankam.
- 1:00Before she comes on, let me tell you about her.
- 1:03Her story is one of faith, resilience, and unwavering
- 1:06dedication to children and families.
- 1:09She's a passionate advocate and stands as a voice for the voiceless, spreading
- 1:15a message of hope, love and truth.
- 1:19She's a devoted Christian and is an inspiration to those seeking
- 1:24God's love, and she holds a special place in her heart for children.
- 1:30She believes in the unique power within every child because
- 1:34she sees them as lights of the world shining in God's glory.
- 1:42Abong is the co-founder and vision keeper of No Backpack Day Foundation.
- 1:51I could tell you a lot more about her, but why don't I welcome her to the show?
- 1:55So Abong, please join us on the show.
- 2:00Good morning, Paula.
- 2:02Good morning.
- 2:03It's great to have you here.
- 2:05I said.
- 2:07I always say snippets of my guest bio because people always have such
- 2:12incredible, and you know, such long bios with all your achievements.
- 2:19So if there's anything that I left out, please feel me and my listening audience,
- 2:24or my viewing audience in with that.
- 2:27Alright.
- 2:27Well, you did a good job with the bio, the introduction.
- 2:30The other thing is I like to let people know, even though I live in the United
- 2:34States, but I am a proud born Cameroonian.
- 2:37I am from Cameroon.
- 2:39Yeah.
- 2:402, 3, 7, it's me.
- 2:43Yeah.
- 2:43Currently in Charlotte, North Carolina, and a mom to an
- 2:46amazing 22-year-old daughter.
- 2:4922-year-old daughter.
- 2:51Wow.
- 2:52You too young to have a 22-year-old.
- 2:54That's what I hear.
- 2:56What's too young?
- 2:57I thought your daughter was like 13.
- 2:59She is 22.
- 3:01Wow.
- 3:02So you are the co-founder and vision keeper of No Backpack Day Foundation.
- 3:08Co-founder means there's another founder.
- 3:10So tell us, give me the story, please, or give us the story
- 3:13behind No Backpack Day Foundation.
- 3:16Hmm.
- 3:16Sure, I'll be glad to do that , Paula.
- 3:19Like I said, I have an amazing 22-year-old daughter, and this is really her story.
- 3:23Her dream that God placed on her heart.
- 3:26I have been somebody who truly believes in the power of helping other people, helping
- 3:32other people exist, and, just sharing my gifts and sharing the things that God
- 3:36have blessed me with the least fortunate.
- 3:39So when my daughter... she's called Mongai.
- 3:41When she was three years old, I took her on a trip to Cameroon,
- 3:45to help children that had lost their parents to HIV and AIDS.
- 3:49And that was my passion and vision at that time to help children that had
- 3:54lost their parents to HIV and AIDS.
- 3:56So Mongai and I did what I call like annual trips to Cameroon.
- 4:00And while I was out helping the kids in the different villages and
- 4:05different households, making sure that their needs are being provided for
- 4:09and they have a safe place to live.
- 4:11God was actually using Mongai in a different way, even though she
- 4:14was three at the time and younger.
- 4:16One thing that Mongai picked was that the kids not only walk long distance
- 4:22to school, but that they had to walk to school carrying their books
- 4:26in their hands or in plastic bags.
- 4:30And so God was gradually putting that into Mongai's heart without me knowing
- 4:37that that was his plan for Mongai.
- 4:39As a mother, I thought, well, I'm just going to share my home country
- 4:43with Mongai for her to get to know where I come from, for her to
- 4:46have that connection with Africa.
- 4:48But God, of course, had another plan for her.
- 4:51So when Mongai was eight years old, that was 13- 14 years ago.
- 4:55When she was eight years old , that's when she birthed the stream.
- 4:59When it came to fruition.
- 5:00And she was eight.
- 5:01Yeah, when she was eight.
- 5:02She was eight years old, a third grader at the time, and without my knowledge,
- 5:09without having any conversation with me, Mongai went to the school and
- 5:14told her teachers about the kids in the rural area of Cameroon that have
- 5:19to walk to school carrying their books in their hands in plastic bags.
- 5:24So the school decided that they were gonna help her get backpacks
- 5:28to those kids in Cameroon.
- 5:30And Mongai decided to challenge them to say, yes, we can get the backpacks, but
- 5:36why don't we walk a day in their shoes?
- 5:40So why don't we come to school one day without our backpacks and
- 5:46carry our books and school supplies in our hands or in plastic bags?
- 5:51So we get to feel, because it's one thing about just giving, but when you get to
- 5:56feel, you get to have that experience of what it means for a child not to have a
- 6:01backpack for nine months and they have to carry their books, they have to walk
- 6:05and sometimes it's raining and they have to hold their books in your hands.
- 6:09And even if it's not raining, the more you hold it on your
- 6:12hands, the more it gets ruined.
- 6:13So their notes and all of that, they get lost.
- 6:16So the school decided that, yeah, we're gonna do what we call now, no
- 6:19backpack day, where they'll come for a day without backpack and carry their
- 6:23books in their hands or in plastic bags.
- 6:26That's when the school contacted me.
- 6:28They're like, Hey, we're getting ready to do a no backpack day.
- 6:30I'm like, what's a backpack day?
- 6:32And they explained the whole thing behind on what Mongai has been doing.
- 6:35Like for a whole week I've been sending my child to school.
- 6:38And during her lunchtime, she's going from one class to the other
- 6:41and telling them about the kids in Cameroon that do not have backpacks.
- 6:45And so, I was like, okay, yeah, that's a good thing.
- 6:48But I was skeptical, thinking that, well, these American kids, I don't think
- 6:52they're gonna want that experience to show connected, but lo and behold, I
- 6:56was surprised out of 900 students in that school, 800 kids came to school
- 7:03that day without their backpacks carrying their books in their hands
- 7:07or in plastic bags to raise awareness.
- 7:11Of course, the news was there, the TV crew with the, the televised
- 7:15Mongai, and she was on the news and other schools got whim of it.
- 7:19And they were like, oh, we wanna do a No Backpack Day.
- 7:22So in that first year itself, we had eight schools that did a No
- 7:25Backpack Day and donated 500 new backpacks and school supplies that we
- 7:30took with us that summer of 2012 to Cameroon and gave out to kids in need.
- 7:37And since then, 2012, this is 2025, 13 years after more than 100,000 backpacks
- 7:46have been collected, more than 50 schools have done a No Backpack Day,
- 7:51and backpacks have been sent to close to 20 countries, including Nigeria.
- 7:56Yes, Nigeria.
- 7:5820 countries in Africa.
- 8:01So that's the whole story.
- 8:02It's just like one little dream.
- 8:05This say one dream can change, a world can change a nation.
- 8:08And that is what she's doing now.
- 8:11Changing the world one backpack at a time.
- 8:15It's so impressive.
- 8:19Thank you.
- 8:20Wow.
- 8:21Wow, wow.
- 8:22At eight years old.
- 8:24Yes.
- 8:25She had a dream.
- 8:26She had a purpose and she went about doing it.
- 8:31And what even is so impressive to me is that she did it without you, you
- 8:35know, without telling you about it.
- 8:36She got...
- 8:37Exactly, exactly all on her own.
- 8:40All on her own.
- 8:41She surprised me.
- 8:42Yes.
- 8:44Yeah.
- 8:45Wow.
- 8:47It would've been wonderful if we, if she could have joined us, but
- 8:50... I know, yeah.
- 8:51But she's at school.
- 8:52Yes.
- 8:53Busy with school at this time.
- 8:55Maybe another episode will be with her.
- 8:58Yes.
- 8:59Mm-hmm.
- 9:00So, you know, so talk about, you know, I mean, she had a dream and a purpose.
- 9:05Talk about, you know, the impact of following your dreams and your purpose.
- 9:10You know, now that you're the co-founder, how have you seen that, you know,
- 9:14like unravel into some of the children that you've probably impacted in the
- 9:19Cameroon and how they in turn are able to follow their dreams and their purposes?
- 9:23Mongai's story has really been inspiring to a lot of younger children.
- 9:27And I think also I'm one of those people that I strongly believe that
- 9:32we are not in this world by accident.
- 9:35That God created us for a reason and for a purpose.
- 9:37In life, we all have a purpose.
- 9:39We come into the world with our hands closed, and I believe in that hand carries
- 9:43your dream, your purpose, but it's now for you to find out what is your dream?
- 9:47What is your purpose in life?
- 9:49What did God create you to be?
- 9:51And for me, it was at the time in my life, I was a social worker at one
- 9:56time and I did the most difficult and challenging part of being a
- 9:59social worker was doing investigation on child abuse and negligence.
- 10:03So I saw everything that it contains children, and children
- 10:05are special parts of my heart.
- 10:07But then it was also overwhelming.
- 10:09So I started questioning myself.
- 10:11What is my mission?
- 10:12What is my purpose?
- 10:13And then came across a lady that really helped me to identify what it
- 10:17was and to write was, what is that one thing that if money is not an issue,
- 10:23that you would do it wholeheartedly?
- 10:25And to me, it was just children in need.
- 10:28It was children in need.
- 10:30So from there, I had a nonprofit on the site that was called A Place of Hope,
- 10:35and that was giving hope to children that had lost their parents to HIV and AIDS.
- 10:39And of course.
- 10:40through that, going back to Africa, Mongai has been able to also identify
- 10:47her own dream of giving back and making the world a better place for other
- 10:51children and inspiring other children.
- 10:54Like when we go to these African countries and we meet children, they
- 10:57hear her story and they say, oh, this is what I would like to do.
- 11:01You have encouraged me.
- 11:02There's some kids that have come along.
- 11:05And done No Backpack Day in different countries so they can raise the backpacks
- 11:09and give to children in their community.
- 11:11The kids that have started something on the side because of
- 11:14what they've seen Mongai doing.
- 11:17Wow.
- 11:17I'm still blown away by, you know, the impact of an eight year old's dream.
- 11:25I myself, I'm blown away.
- 11:26Every day I look at it, I cannot believe because yeah, she's my child.
- 11:30I'm proud of her and what she's doing.
- 11:32But I'm also happy that God is using her in a mighty way to give hope to children.
- 11:38And it's just amazing how much recognition because when I look
- 11:41at her accolade, I'm like, wow.
- 11:43You are just 13.
- 11:44You are just 15, you're just 18, you're 22.
- 11:47And look at all of this.
- 11:49She's had the support of Leymah Gbowee from Liberia who won the Nobel
- 11:53Peace Prize as she has endorsed her.
- 11:56She's had the support of African First Ladies.
- 11:59She's been to the Senate to talk to world leaders about, she's been to the UN and
- 12:04I'm like, wow, just this little voice.
- 12:06Just this little dream.
- 12:08And that's the importance of dream because it never goes away what you
- 12:11are called to do, it's your choice to say yes to it or to say no.
- 12:16But it will never go away from you.
- 12:19Right.
- 12:20You're called, but it will never go away.
- 12:22It doesn't.
- 12:23Yes.
- 12:25Yeah.
- 12:26Yeah, we struggle with it.
- 12:29Fear.
- 12:29We are afraid to fail.
- 12:32Hmm.
- 12:32And sometimes we're afraid to succeed.
- 12:35Yes.
- 12:36'cause when we succeed, it puts us in a different level, right?
- 12:39Yes.
- 12:39And then when you succeeding, you come to realize that your tribe is shrinking.
- 12:45It's shrinking.
- 12:46And because you don't want to be in a small tribe, you wanna be in a big tribe.
- 12:51So you are afraid to succeed, to say what?
- 12:53Because you're thinking, what are people gonna say?
- 12:55People are gonna start running away from me.
- 12:57So there's a fear of failure.
- 12:59I don't wanna fail.
- 13:00And then there's also the fear of succeeding, because when you
- 13:02succeed, it means the times that you're gonna be all by yourself.
- 13:06But hey, you are called by God.
- 13:08You're called by God to do it.
- 13:10Yes.
- 13:10Indeed, there's your strength and your source and you put
- 13:14those dreams and purpose.
- 13:15Purpose is in us, you know, and as Christians, we know that, you
- 13:19know, we can depend upon him.
- 13:21Mm-hmm.
- 13:22Guide us, to lead us, to instruct us, to show us the way to go and it takes a
- 13:28while, but sometimes when we understand that the purpose and the talents it comes
- 13:32from him, then we can depend upon him to do the guiding and hold our hands.
- 13:36That we're not alone.
- 13:37That's right.
- 13:37That's right.
- 13:38It does.
- 13:38To a younger child like Mongai, yeah, it took a couple of years.
- 13:41But the people that takes 20 years, it takes 30 years for them to finally
- 13:46identify what their purpose is in life.
- 13:49So, which every, it depends on each individual.
- 13:52Yeah.
- 13:53Yes.
- 13:54So one of the things, I know you mentioned your own nonprofit, Place of Hope.
- 14:00I know we are talking about changing the world one backpack at a time.
- 14:04But tell me a little bit about that, because that, that you
- 14:07are the founder of that one.
- 14:09Yes.
- 14:09Mm-hmm.
- 14:11Yes.
- 14:11So tell us a little bit about that.
- 14:13The Place of Hope was founded in 2005.
- 14:17Yeah.
- 14:17And that's when HIV and AIDS was a pandemic in Africa and children were
- 14:22losing their parents with HIV and AIDS.
- 14:24You had households that were being headed by minor children, and that
- 14:29really, really did break my heart.
- 14:32And again, just that my love and passion that I have for kids and
- 14:36being able to help kids here.
- 14:38And then thinking about the kids in Cameroon and different parts of Africa
- 14:41that do not have mommies and daddies.
- 14:43How can we help them?
- 14:45So I founded this organization called The Place of Hope, and the whole
- 14:49idea was to help children that had lost their parents to HIV and AIDS
- 14:53to make sure that they live in the house that is headed by an adult.
- 14:58And also that they enrolled in school and their tuition are being paid for.
- 15:02So with that, we were able to raise enough tuition that we
- 15:07paid tuition for 758 orphans.
- 15:13And also was able to build a school in one of the villages in Cameroon.
- 15:18So that's my life.
- 15:20That's my story.
- 15:22And what it makes me realize is that, you know, the apple doesn't
- 15:24fall too far from the tree.
- 15:26So Mongai...
- 15:26That's what I hear.
- 15:29So Mongai had you as a visible, you know, like a mentor or
- 15:34someone to look up to and...
- 15:36Yeah.
- 15:36Follow in your footstep because what she's doing is, you know,
- 15:40very similar to what you are doing.
- 15:42Yeah, exactly.
- 15:44Overall, the same purpose.
- 15:45To help.
- 15:46Yeah.
- 15:46To help.
- 15:47To help, yeah.
- 15:49Yeah.
- 15:49But again, it's, yeah.
- 15:51One thing I'm happy, it's she's living her dream.
- 15:54She's living what God wants her to do because there could definitely be
- 15:58an apple there that she's watching, but like, no, I'm not gonna do that.
- 16:02That's your thing.
- 16:03I'm going away.
- 16:03But yeah, it's like, yeah.
- 16:07Absolutely.
- 16:09That's so right.
- 16:09So I know off camera we talked about there's something
- 16:12special happening in April.
- 16:14Oh yes.
- 16:16So because of Miss Mongai, again, like I said, she's had the connection
- 16:22and the endorsement with a lot of world leaders, First Ladies.
- 16:25She's been invited to different African countries by African First Ladies.
- 16:30So now she is having a fundraise on April 26th.
- 16:35The goal is to raise 10,000 backpacks.
- 16:39We're calling it 10,000 Dreams, 10,000 Backpacks.
- 16:42That will be sent to five different African countries.
- 16:46And the keynote speaker is gonna be Dr. Omar Obama.
- 16:50She is the sister of President Barack Obama.
- 16:52She lives in Kenya, but she's coming here.
- 16:54She's endorse Mongai and she's coming to be the keynote speaker for the event.
- 16:59Thank you.
- 17:00So impressive.
- 17:01This is gonna be held in Charlotte.
- 17:03I'm assuming, or one...
- 17:05It's gonna be in Charlotte, North Carolina.
- 17:07The NASCAR Hall of Fame?
- 17:09Yes.
- 17:10Alright, so those of us who are not in Charlotte, is there
- 17:14going to be a virtual version?
- 17:17Hopefully, yeah.
- 17:19We're thinking about doing a link.
- 17:20Yeah.
- 17:20And I can send you the link, and those who will not be able to make it in
- 17:24addition to that, feel free to support.
- 17:27You can still make a donation or a contribution online.
- 17:30Yeah.
- 17:31To help a child in need.
- 17:32The link is gonna be in the chat so everyone who has joined
- 17:36will be able to look at it.
- 17:38Okay.
- 17:38On their own.
- 17:39Okay?
- 17:39Yes.
- 17:40Amen.
- 17:40Thank you.
- 17:41So, you know, all good things have to come to an end, unfortunately.
- 17:45So if anyone wants to get in touch, well, I put the link in the chat,
- 17:48but anyone wants to get in touch with you or with Mongai regarding this
- 17:55phenomenal job that she's doing, changing the world, one backpack at a time.
- 18:00Where can they find you or her, or who do you want them to contact?
- 18:04Her or you, or both of you?
- 18:06You're the co-founder.
- 18:07Yes, both of us, but more me because now she's in school and getting towards
- 18:13the end of the semester and all of that.
- 18:15So I will be the appropriate person to reach out to now, but then the
- 18:19summer, of course it's gonna be Mongai.
- 18:21And I can give you my email address or I'll give you our email address.
- 18:26Okay.
- 18:27Which is, Abong that's my first name.
- 18:29abong@nobackpackday.org.
- 18:32Okay.
- 18:33And then for Mongai, it is also mongai@nobackpackday.org.
- 18:43Okay.
- 18:43And we spell Mongai M... Go ahead.
- 18:48M-O-N-G-A-I.
- 18:53Ok, mongai@nobackpackday.org and you are abong@nobackpackday.org.
- 19:04Okay.
- 19:04You got it?
- 19:05Yes.
- 19:06Social media?
- 19:06Are you all on social media?
- 19:08Yeah.
- 19:09Social media?
- 19:09No Backpack Day.
- 19:10Okay.
- 19:11On Facebook?
- 19:12Yes.
- 19:13Okay.
- 19:13I guess LinkedIn and Instagram?
- 19:15Yes.
- 19:16Okay.
- 19:16Instagram, IG?
- 19:17Yes.
- 19:18Yes.
- 19:18Yes.
- 19:19Awesome.
- 19:20Well, yeah.
- 19:21Those of you who are listening and those who have joined us, I
- 19:24always say my guests are the best.
- 19:26Oh, that rhymes.
- 19:27Thank you.
- 19:27My guests are indeed the best.
- 19:29Thank you.
- 19:30And you're the best too.
- 19:32Thank you.
- 19:33And so if you are a woman and I do also have men join us and would
- 19:39like to be on the show, please reach out to me on my website,
- 19:43which is chattingwiththeexperts.com.
- 19:47I'm also on LinkedIn.
- 19:48I love LinkedIn, as Paula Okonneh.
- 19:51On Instagram, you can contact me and my handle there is at chat_experts_podcast.
- 20:01I'm on Facebook as Paula Okonneh.
- 20:04And I also have a YouTube channel.
- 20:06Just look for or subscribe to our channel, which is Chatting with the Experts with
- 20:11Paula Okonneh and, Mongai, not Mongai.
- 20:15I'm now calling you Mongai.
- 20:21Abong.
- 20:22Abong, thank you so much for telling us about this phenomenal foundation
- 20:28that you and you are co-founder of the founder being the phenomenal,
- 20:33wonderful inspirational Mongai.
- 20:37Thank you for joining us today to spread the word.
- 20:40And again, remind us about the date of the fundraiser.
- 20:43Is it fundraiser?
- 20:45Yes, it is April 26th, 2025.
- 20:49NASCAR Hall of Fame, Charlotte, North Carolina from 6:30 PM to 10:30 PM.
- 20:55Come and have fun.
- 20:57Yes.
- 20:58Thank you.
- 20:59Thank you so much.
- 20:59You're welcome.
- 21:00Thank you, Paula.
- 21:01I appreciate you and Thank you for giving me this opportunity.
- 21:06You are welcome.
- 21:06You're welcome.
- 21:07And of course now we open up the floor to all those who joined us,
- 21:11ask you any questions that I might have missed out on so that you can
- 21:14tell them more about how to change the world, one backpack at a time.
- 21:20Sure.