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- 0:17Speaker 1: Welcome back to Children of the Eighties. I am one
- 0:19Speaker 1: of your hosts, Jim, and I am joined as always
- 0:23Speaker 1: by the lady who loves the bad guy. It's my
- 0:26Speaker 1: co host, Lindsay. At least you did in high school
- 0:29Speaker 1: and college?
- 0:30Speaker 2: Yes, I did.
- 0:32Speaker 3: Have you ever noticed that the female bad guy in
- 0:36Speaker 3: the eighties.
- 0:36Speaker 1: Always got to talk like this with a with a
- 0:39Speaker 1: with a raspy.
- 0:41Speaker 2: Uh I smoked for fifty years?
- 0:43Speaker 1: Yeah, with anna voice?
- 0:44Speaker 4: Wow?
- 0:47Speaker 5: Uh?
- 0:47Speaker 6: Yeah?
- 0:48Speaker 1: I noticed that they always had to sound menacing. I
- 0:50Speaker 1: guess they couldn't be sweet and dainty.
- 0:53Speaker 2: No, I should I do the whole episode that way?
- 0:56Speaker 7: No?
- 0:56Speaker 1: You should not. That would that would be brutal. So
- 1:00Speaker 1: guess what what? We have a guest.
- 1:04Speaker 5: I know.
- 1:05Speaker 2: I'm so excited. This is long over deal.
- 1:07Speaker 1: It is so joining us for his second time. Here
- 1:10Speaker 1: is mister David Wright, also known as Deaf Dave.
- 1:14Speaker 3: Dave.
- 1:14Speaker 6: How you doing, man, I'm doing great. Thank you so
- 1:17Speaker 6: much for having me. I listen to your show every
- 1:19Speaker 6: single week and I'm thrilled to be part of it.
- 1:22Speaker 6: I appreciate you inviting me on.
- 1:24Speaker 1: Absolutely always love to have you and talk eighties, batties, eighties.
- 1:28Speaker 6: Dylan's I'm always down for a good eighties pop culture talk.
- 1:32Speaker 3: And I know we don't normally post video, but I
- 1:35Speaker 3: got to point out love the ball cap.
- 1:37Speaker 6: Oh thank you.
- 1:38Speaker 2: Go break presenting the Atlanta Brain.
- 1:40Speaker 6: I am here.
- 1:41Speaker 1: I am here with two homegrown Georgians, folks.
- 1:44Speaker 6: That's right.
- 1:45Speaker 1: But you know what, come November, I will be here
- 1:48Speaker 1: exactly half of my life.
- 1:51Speaker 6: Okay, that's so in.
- 1:53Speaker 2: Atlanta, on this earth.
- 1:57Speaker 1: Well, if I'm gonna live to one hundred and four,
- 1:59Speaker 1: I don't know if I want to do. But yeah,
- 2:02Speaker 1: so I will officially be a full time Georgian come
- 2:05Speaker 1: twenty twenty six. Full time Yeah, like a native.
- 2:10Speaker 6: No, yeah, well majority share, right, Yeah, we'll count it.
- 2:15Speaker 2: We don't grandfather you in.
- 2:19Speaker 1: They'rey territorial down here.
- 2:21Speaker 6: No, are you going? Are you braves? Are you STI
- 2:23Speaker 6: gonna be Cardinals?
- 2:23Speaker 1: Oh no, though the car I mean that would be like,
- 2:26Speaker 1: I mean, do you know it Georgia bulldog fan that
- 2:28Speaker 1: moved out west and isn't a bulldog fan? No, No,
- 2:31Speaker 1: that would be that it would be Then there you go.
- 2:33Speaker 2: Then we can't child, I'm sorry.
- 2:37Speaker 1: Yeah, good times, good times, But Dave, welcome back. We're
- 2:39Speaker 1: so happy to have you here. Again, and we are
- 2:42Speaker 1: talking eighties villains today, and we're going to be counting
- 2:46Speaker 1: down each of us, counting down our top ten villains.
- 2:50Speaker 1: And I fully expect some crossovers here.
- 2:53Speaker 3: I would think so, But I don't know that Eighties
- 2:56Speaker 3: were there there. We aren't lacking for villains in that deck.
- 3:00Speaker 1: I agree, And I think Dave and I will probably
- 3:03Speaker 1: have more crossovers than you and I. I think you
- 3:05Speaker 1: may have gone off the reservation here.
- 3:07Speaker 2: Oh you think.
- 3:08Speaker 1: I think you might have. I think I surely know
- 3:12Speaker 1: that your list will be different than herce for sure.
- 3:16Speaker 2: Oh, absolutely, yeah.
- 3:18Speaker 3: I think mine probably is going to come more based
- 3:20Speaker 3: in like pop culture. I feel like you guys have
- 3:25Speaker 3: maybe gone off the rails into the dark web.
- 3:32Speaker 1: Dave, did you do any research on the dark Web?
- 3:34Speaker 6: Do I look like a guy that goes to the
- 3:36Speaker 6: dark Web?
- 3:40Speaker 1: I don't. I wouldn't even know how to get to the.
- 3:42Speaker 6: Dark vib I do not know how to get to
- 3:44Speaker 6: the dark Web.
- 3:45Speaker 1: I wonder if Dark Helmet will make our villams bringing
- 3:51Speaker 1: it back around? Well, uh, Lynn's enough of the chip chap.
- 3:54Speaker 1: Are you ready to get to it?
- 4:02Speaker 3: This is a podcast that looks back on the decade
- 4:05Speaker 3: of the nineteen eighties. We talk about things that were
- 4:08Speaker 3: important to us as children and what we look back
- 4:11Speaker 3: on with fond memories as adults. Ultimately, this is a
- 4:16Speaker 3: nostalgia podcast.
- 4:18Speaker 1: Before we get to the villains, I do have one
- 4:20Speaker 1: clean up item from last week or not last week,
- 4:23Speaker 1: from our last episode.
- 4:24Speaker 2: Last week was a repeat you done messed up?
- 4:27Speaker 1: You've done messed up aa ron. So I need to
- 4:30Speaker 1: issue an apology because I left a good song off
- 4:34Speaker 1: of our list. You bull, Yes, I did, Billy, I
- 4:39Speaker 1: blew it. So I need to issue an apology because
- 4:43Speaker 1: I left this beauty off. Shit. It's crazy. Just Dave
- 5:09Speaker 1: look at Lindsay's face and told me, does she love
- 5:11Speaker 1: yacht rock or what?
- 5:12Speaker 2: Who is that?
- 5:14Speaker 1: That is steely Dan with a nineteen. That's horrible.
- 5:18Speaker 3: The only good thing I can think of to say
- 5:20Speaker 3: about that is, at least he's not singing about a
- 5:22Speaker 3: seventeen year old.
- 5:25Speaker 1: Yeah, he's not creepy like kif Winger Kip Winger. But yeah,
- 5:29Speaker 1: I missed that one. When we were doing our songs
- 5:32Speaker 1: with numbers, Dave, were you looking for that one to
- 5:34Speaker 1: be played?
- 5:35Speaker 7: No?
- 5:36Speaker 8: I was.
- 5:36Speaker 6: I was holding out for eight six seventy five three
- 5:38Speaker 6: oh nine. I was like, don't tell me, they're gonna
- 5:40Speaker 6: forget that one. I was like, you were you strung
- 5:42Speaker 6: me along to the end, but you came through for me.
- 5:44Speaker 6: But I was trying to think.
- 5:49Speaker 9: So.
- 5:51Speaker 1: Counting down our top ten villains from movies in the
- 5:54Speaker 1: nineteen eighties. Today, we'll go in order. We'll let our
- 5:57Speaker 1: guest Dave go first, and then you'll go, and then
- 6:00Speaker 1: I'll go. But I want to know, did you struggle
- 6:04Speaker 1: with this with coming up with this list?
- 6:08Speaker 6: Not really?
- 6:09Speaker 10: Uh.
- 6:09Speaker 6: I would say the first half of my list was automatic,
- 6:12Speaker 6: like I just had it immediately. Then I had to
- 6:16Speaker 6: make some decisions for the for the bottom half of
- 6:18Speaker 6: my list. So but overall, it's pretty easy I had.
- 6:23Speaker 6: I had it pretty quickly.
- 6:25Speaker 3: I struggled in the beginning because I thought I was
- 6:28Speaker 3: going to have to come up with like good versus
- 6:32Speaker 3: Bad and I didn't watch those movies in the eighties.
- 6:36Speaker 1: Yeah. No, you're just coming up with your villains.
- 6:38Speaker 3: Just thinking like, oh my gosh, what am I gonna do?
- 6:41Speaker 3: How am I going to do this? But then once
- 6:42Speaker 3: you and I talked it through, then it just came
- 6:45Speaker 3: quickly for me.
- 6:46Speaker 1: Yeah. And like I said, some of yours is going
- 6:48Speaker 1: to be different than ours because you probably weren't watching
- 6:51Speaker 1: Star Wars or No or Flash Gordon or something like that.
- 6:56Speaker 1: But before we give anything away, were there any honorable
- 7:01Speaker 1: mentions or do you want to save those until the
- 7:02Speaker 1: end in case some of us have things on our
- 7:05Speaker 1: honorable mentions at the end? Okay, yeah, okay, I'm fine
- 7:09Speaker 1: with that. So this was it wasn't a struggle for
- 7:12Speaker 1: me to come up with villains. It was a struggle
- 7:14Speaker 1: for me to pair it down to ten because I
- 7:17Speaker 1: came up with about sixteen or seventeen, and I really
- 7:21Speaker 1: struggled with paring it down to ten. And I actually
- 7:23Speaker 1: had my ten, and I reached out to our friend
- 7:27Speaker 1: Brad from Pop Culture Yearbook, and he threw somebody out there,
- 7:31Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh man, Brad, you just screwed up
- 7:34Speaker 1: my whole list. So then I literally sat here and
- 7:37Speaker 1: thought for about twenty minutes about who I was gonna
- 7:40Speaker 1: boot off for the guy that Brad suggested, because I
- 7:44Speaker 1: agreed with him that this had to go on there.
- 7:46Speaker 1: So and we'll get to him a little bit later.
- 7:49Speaker 1: But are we ready to get to our top ten?
- 7:54Speaker 1: Let's do it, all right, Dave as our guest, you
- 8:08Speaker 1: will go first, go ahead and give us your number
- 8:12Speaker 1: ten villain from movies of the nineteen eighties.
- 8:16Speaker 6: Well, so my number ten pick is here to represent
- 8:19Speaker 6: the entire like slasher horror genre. I went with one
- 8:23Speaker 6: that I believe has the most personality, the most interesting character.
- 8:27Speaker 6: It has to be Freddy Krueger.
- 8:35Speaker 5: You n.
- 8:39Speaker 8: Man, love your John fine six, grab your so fix seven,
- 8:48Speaker 8: he say, late nine ten and see I'm so spook.
- 9:12Speaker 1: Wasn't that old eighties music?
- 9:16Speaker 2: Again?
- 9:16Speaker 1: Yes? It was pretty bad? All right? Well, I did
- 9:22Speaker 1: not have Freddy on my list. I thought about putting
- 9:25Speaker 1: him on, but I chose to stay away from any
- 9:28Speaker 1: of the like horror people because I feel like they
- 9:31Speaker 1: could be like their own project.
- 9:33Speaker 6: But that's true.
- 9:34Speaker 1: But Dave, I'll let you go ahead and talk about
- 9:37Speaker 1: Freddy and why you chose him as number ten.
- 9:40Speaker 6: Well, I just think he has more personality. I think
- 9:42Speaker 6: that he's more like distinctive than like, you know, obviously,
- 9:46Speaker 6: I think quickly Jason or Michael Myers or leather Face
- 9:50Speaker 6: something like that, but those are all a little bit
- 9:52Speaker 6: more like ciphers. And with Freddie you're getting a really
- 9:55Speaker 6: good backstory, you know. And also just his personality, his
- 10:00Speaker 6: arcasm is humor. I just and he really just kind
- 10:03Speaker 6: of distills the show. I mean he's he's the villain,
- 10:07Speaker 6: but he's also the protagonist. I mean, we're all coming
- 10:09Speaker 6: there to see him. So to me, when it comes
- 10:12Speaker 6: to actually having developed a riveting character with all these
- 10:18Speaker 6: different slasher movies, I think I think Freddy just stands out.
- 10:21Speaker 6: I think he stands up pretty easily.
- 10:25Speaker 1: I don't disagree with that, But yeah, I agree with
- 10:28Speaker 1: that he had the most personality, for sure. But out
- 10:30Speaker 1: of those people that you mentioned, he's also the only
- 10:32Speaker 1: one that talked.
- 10:33Speaker 6: So well, there you go.
- 10:34Speaker 2: That's a good point.
- 10:37Speaker 1: But they did do a better job of a backstory
- 10:39Speaker 1: with him than they did with any of the others
- 10:41Speaker 1: for sure. The other ones. I feel like they just
- 10:43Speaker 1: kind of threw together real quick. I mean, he was
- 10:46Speaker 1: as a boy, he'd drowned in a lake, and then
- 10:48Speaker 1: that's pretty much all you get from and that's that. Yeah,
- 10:50Speaker 1: But I'll save my comments for Freddy because we're gonna
- 10:54Speaker 1: do a Freddie versus Jason Halloween episode next month. But
- 10:59Speaker 1: but I I I don't have a problem with your
- 11:01Speaker 1: pick at number ten. But there you go. Number ten.
- 11:05Speaker 1: You want to go or you want me to go first.
- 11:08Speaker 2: I don't know. Let me go.
- 11:09Speaker 3: I'm a little nervous, so let me go and kind
- 11:11Speaker 3: of get this one done so I'll calm down a
- 11:13Speaker 3: little bit, all right. So, uh my number ten, Johnny
- 11:17Speaker 3: Lawrence from Karate Kid.
- 11:20Speaker 2: You couldn't leave one a flock cut your little twitch.
- 11:24Speaker 7: No, I have to push it now.
- 11:26Speaker 2: You're gonna pay Johnny.
- 11:40Speaker 3: Leave him alone, man, he's having shut up mommy, look
- 11:42Speaker 3: at it, dot, you can't.
- 11:43Speaker 5: Even stand up, go on, hand on me, squat Johnny,
- 11:47Speaker 5: leave him alone, man, he's had not.
- 11:48Speaker 2: On the side, but he's had enough.
- 11:50Speaker 11: Man.
- 11:50Speaker 6: Why is wrong?
- 11:51Speaker 7: But Johnny enemy.
- 11:53Speaker 12: Deserves no mercy?
- 11:54Speaker 9: Right right right?
- 11:56Speaker 3: You're crazy, man, he's gone mad.
- 12:02Speaker 1: That is a actual footage of Danielson getting the crap
- 12:05Speaker 1: kicked out of him.
- 12:07Speaker 3: So I had a really hard time deciding if I
- 12:09Speaker 3: wanted Johnny Lawrence to make my list or not, because
- 12:12Speaker 3: we are big Cobra Kai fans, and so if you
- 12:15Speaker 3: watch that show, he redeems himself and I don't view
- 12:21Speaker 3: him as a band guy anymore or as a bully
- 12:24Speaker 3: because at one point in Cobra Kai you actually kind
- 12:28Speaker 3: of get to see things a little bit more from
- 12:30Speaker 3: his perspective, right, and so that's why he made the list.
- 12:34Speaker 3: That's why he's at number ten. No doubt, he was
- 12:37Speaker 3: a bully. He physically attacked Daniel's son numerous times. He
- 12:43Speaker 3: was always very verbally abusive and angry and misused his
- 12:49Speaker 3: karate skills.
- 12:52Speaker 1: So if you go back to nineteen eighty four, right,
- 12:55Speaker 1: and this is an eighty show, then he absolutely belongs on.
- 12:58Speaker 2: This list because he doessolutely.
- 13:00Speaker 1: But yeah, if you're going with revisionist history with Cobra Kai,
- 13:03Speaker 1: then I can see your point.
- 13:04Speaker 2: And he had his little posse all the time back
- 13:07Speaker 2: in him off.
- 13:07Speaker 1: Oh yeah, they were a gang of bullies. So Dave,
- 13:10Speaker 1: what do you think about the Johnny Lawrence pick?
- 13:12Speaker 6: Well, you know, I feel like I got to leave
- 13:13Speaker 6: this one alone. I've got friends of mine, Jeff Johnson,
- 13:16Speaker 6: not a film by podcast that will tell you that
- 13:19Speaker 6: Johnny Lawrence is the hero of Karate Kids, and that
- 13:23Speaker 6: Daniel's son LaRusso is the villain because he because Daniel
- 13:29Speaker 6: cheated in the All Valley tournament. The crane cake was
- 13:33Speaker 6: an illegal move and Johnny was was done wrong. Uh so,
- 13:38Speaker 6: I of course, you know, I thought of Karate Kiss.
- 13:40Speaker 6: It's one of my favorite movies from the decade, but
- 13:43Speaker 6: I decided I was going to stay stay out of
- 13:44Speaker 6: those waters and not try to weigh in on that.
- 13:47Speaker 6: But I can tell you I haven't seen all of
- 13:49Speaker 6: Cobra Kai, but I have seen I think the first
- 13:51Speaker 6: couple of seasons, and you're absolutely right. I mean, my goodness,
- 13:55Speaker 6: William Zaka does such an amazing job of that character.
- 13:58Speaker 6: You know that that seemed like just an iconic like
- 14:01Speaker 6: Douche Roll from the eighties, right, But he's able to
- 14:04Speaker 6: revisit this so many years later and do so much
- 14:07Speaker 6: with it. I mean, he's he's got so many episodes
- 14:10Speaker 6: to explore the character. We really get to know that
- 14:12Speaker 6: a lot, and he does a fantastic job. I think
- 14:14Speaker 6: it's the best acting of his career because because we
- 14:16Speaker 6: really get to spend time in that character and learn
- 14:18Speaker 6: a lot about him. So so yeah, in the post
- 14:20Speaker 6: Cobra Kai era, you know, he's a lot more sympathetic.
- 14:24Speaker 6: But if you sure keep it focus on the eighties
- 14:26Speaker 6: and you take the movie the way the way John
- 14:29Speaker 6: Allison meant for you to take it. You know, Johnny's
- 14:32Speaker 6: a bad guy, and I certainly.
- 14:33Speaker 1: I would like to argue with mister Jeff Johnson that
- 14:39Speaker 1: that crane kick may have been illegal, but Johnny elbowed
- 14:43Speaker 1: Daniel's knee, which was also illegal and should have got
- 14:45Speaker 1: him disqualified after Bobby, you know, cheap shot at him
- 14:50Speaker 1: in the leg and almost knocked them out of the tournament.
- 14:52Speaker 1: So I would say that that crane kick was well deserved.
- 14:57Speaker 6: Okay, I'm gonna get you and Jeff on the same
- 15:00Speaker 6: we can. We can have it out, but I'll be
- 15:04Speaker 6: the referee with the mustache in the middle.
- 15:06Speaker 1: There we go, all right, Moving on to my number ten.
- 15:10Speaker 1: My number ten comes from also from nineteen eighty four.
- 15:13Speaker 1: Hey guess what we all have? Number ten from nineteen
- 15:15Speaker 1: eighty four, Freddy Kruger eighty four, Johnny Lawrence eighty four,
- 15:19Speaker 1: and from the movie Police Academy nineteen eighty four. My
- 15:22Speaker 1: number ten is Lieutenant Harris.
- 15:27Speaker 6: My name is Lieutenant Harris.
- 15:32Speaker 2: Okay, mister it are the meanest instructors here.
- 15:38Speaker 13: We've got you because you are the worst people here.
- 15:46Speaker 13: You people are d squad d or dirt bags. When
- 15:52Speaker 13: I say hey, dirt bags, that means you. You people
- 15:57Speaker 13: are going to hate my guts for the rest of
- 16:00Speaker 13: your lives. I am going to make you sorry that
- 16:03Speaker 13: you ever came here.
- 16:07Speaker 1: And that is just a little snippet of how terrible
- 16:12Speaker 1: Lieutenant was through that whole movie. And then they bring
- 16:16Speaker 1: him back again in Police Academy three to be that guy.
- 16:19Speaker 1: So he was just he let him know, you're gonna
- 16:21Speaker 1: hate me for the rest of my lives. He was
- 16:23Speaker 1: very much a stickler for the Police Academy and he
- 16:26Speaker 1: didn't really like the fact that they were letting just
- 16:30Speaker 1: Joey Baggett Donuts in and everybody, just every regular person in.
- 16:35Speaker 1: So I loved Lieutenant Harris.
- 16:38Speaker 3: And I just got to point out I love the
- 16:40Speaker 3: actor GW.
- 16:42Speaker 2: Bailey. Yes, he's he's that guy. You know that he's
- 16:45Speaker 2: and he always plays the cop he does. He plays
- 16:48Speaker 2: a good cop. He's typecast, but he just had birthday.
- 16:50Speaker 2: He's eighty one.
- 16:52Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah, wow. So we know him other than Police Academy, Dave.
- 16:57Speaker 1: We watched The Closer and then it's follow up show,
- 17:02Speaker 1: Major Crimes, where he played Lieutenant Prevenza Okay for a
- 17:06Speaker 1: Major Crimes squad out in la.
- 17:09Speaker 6: He's a makes the perfect fall for a movie like that.
- 17:12Speaker 6: You know you need that authority figure, so that the
- 17:15Speaker 6: so that the snarky, trouble making Cadets can play off of.
- 17:18Speaker 6: So it makes for a fun not really evil, but
- 17:22Speaker 6: just a fun antagonist to play off of. So yeah,
- 17:27Speaker 6: he's He's kind of the fuel, you know, for the
- 17:29Speaker 6: for the comedy to kind of revolve around in the movie.
- 17:32Speaker 6: So I'm a big fan. I'm also just a big
- 17:34Speaker 6: fan of all the love. The year nineteen eighty four
- 17:36Speaker 6: is getting so far on this show. I just want
- 17:38Speaker 6: to point out that it must be a year packed
- 17:41Speaker 6: with treasure for us to just all three of us
- 17:43Speaker 6: go straight to that year. It's almost as if it
- 17:45Speaker 6: were the best year ever it maybe.
- 17:50Speaker 1: All right, Dave, go on with your number nine.
- 17:53Speaker 6: All right, number nine, I'm gonna skip to nineteen eighty nine,
- 17:57Speaker 6: and I've got to go with the joker.
- 18:00Speaker 14: Oh tell me something, my friend, You ever dance with
- 18:06Speaker 14: the devil in the pale light?
- 18:09Speaker 10: What?
- 18:10Speaker 6: I always ask that of all my prey?
- 18:14Speaker 1: I just like the sound of it.
- 18:18Speaker 9: That man.
- 18:21Speaker 6: Batman.
- 18:23Speaker 10: Can somebody tell me what kind of a world we
- 18:26Speaker 10: live in?
- 18:27Speaker 1: We're a man dressed.
- 18:29Speaker 2: Up as a bat gets all of my press.
- 18:35Speaker 10: This town needs an enema.
- 18:39Speaker 7: As though we were made for each other. Beauty in
- 18:42Speaker 7: the Beast.
- 18:44Speaker 14: Of course, if anyone else calls you Beast, I'll rip
- 18:48Speaker 14: their lungs.
- 18:51Speaker 7: Me.
- 18:52Speaker 6: I'm giving away free money. And where is there that man?
- 18:59Speaker 5: Is it all?
- 19:09Speaker 8: What are you laughing at?
- 19:15Speaker 1: That is an excellent pick, Dave. And in fact, I
- 19:18Speaker 1: will go ahead and say that you just got my
- 19:24Speaker 1: number one.
- 19:25Speaker 2: Oh wow?
- 19:27Speaker 1: Really the Joker is my number one?
- 19:30Speaker 3: Now the Joker, Jack Nicholson's Joker or just the character
- 19:35Speaker 3: the Joker.
- 19:35Speaker 1: Jack Nicholson's character.
- 19:38Speaker 6: Are you saying that he's your number one guy, guy?
- 19:43Speaker 6: As you are my number one the Guy? So yeah,
- 19:49Speaker 6: I mean Jack Nicholson, I mean it was Could you
- 19:54Speaker 6: have had a better choice in the eighties for the Joker? So,
- 19:58Speaker 6: you know, at this time, batmanis still kind of not
- 20:00Speaker 6: taken seriously. Everybody remembers the nineteen sixty six show and
- 20:03Speaker 6: they remember all the cartoons, and there's still this image
- 20:08Speaker 6: of Batman as just being this silly character. And so
- 20:12Speaker 6: you know, that's what was so exciting when we knew
- 20:14Speaker 6: this movie was coming out with Tim Burton directing it,
- 20:17Speaker 6: we were ready for something that was gonna be a
- 20:20Speaker 6: little bit more serious and a little bit darker, and
- 20:23Speaker 6: there was a lot of backlash over the announcement of
- 20:26Speaker 6: Michael Keatons as Batman because he was only known for
- 20:31Speaker 6: comedy and so and I think we the audience and
- 20:35Speaker 6: I was in that you know, comic book geek crowd
- 20:38Speaker 6: that wanted the world to know how cool Batman actually was,
- 20:42Speaker 6: and we were freaking out over the idea of a
- 20:44Speaker 6: comic actor playing Batman, like they're just gonna go down
- 20:47Speaker 6: this path again, It's just not what we want. And
- 20:50Speaker 6: obviously that's not what we got. I mean it it
- 20:53Speaker 6: seems pretty like now compared to the Christopher Nolan movies,
- 20:56Speaker 6: but at the time it was an extreme tonal shit
- 21:00Speaker 6: from what the public perceived of Batman. But what gave
- 21:05Speaker 6: us all hope, like what we pinned everything on, was
- 21:08Speaker 6: Jack Nicholson as the Joker. I mean, Jack Nicholson. You
- 21:12Speaker 6: get Jack Nicholson to play the Joker, now you've got
- 21:15Speaker 6: a serious movie, no pun intended. But and he was
- 21:22Speaker 6: so like delicious in that role. He just nailed every
- 21:25Speaker 6: single line delivery and made the movie a lot more fun.
- 21:30Speaker 6: But also just his presence and his involvement gave the
- 21:33Speaker 6: movie I think a lot more weight and for people
- 21:36Speaker 6: to take a little bit more seriously.
- 21:37Speaker 1: So yeah, for sure, Tim Burton did a great job
- 21:39Speaker 1: with that. Michael Keaton is my Batman, all right. I
- 21:43Speaker 1: love Michael Keaton way better than I do Christian Bale.
- 21:46Speaker 1: And we can argue about Jack Nicholson versus Heath Ledger,
- 21:49Speaker 1: but Jack Nicholson started it, and so he was brilliant,
- 21:53Speaker 1: and that's why he's my number one. He had so
- 21:54Speaker 1: many great lines he brought. He brought comedy and darkness
- 22:00Speaker 1: to the role, whereas Heath Leger was just more dark
- 22:03Speaker 1: and anarchist.
- 22:05Speaker 6: And yeah, and I was eighteen at the time. It
- 22:08Speaker 6: came out right when I was graduating high school. But
- 22:11Speaker 6: it is where I learned the very important life lesson
- 22:14Speaker 6: that you never rub another man's rhubarb.
- 22:20Speaker 1: He did, He did teach that lesson. Lindsey, what do
- 22:22Speaker 1: you think about that?
- 22:23Speaker 6: I was a little slow with that. I almost got
- 22:25Speaker 6: a spit take out of you. I just need.
- 22:28Speaker 3: So I'm one of those weirdos. I'm not even sure
- 22:32Speaker 3: I want to admit this, but I've always been honest.
- 22:34Speaker 3: I've never seen it.
- 22:36Speaker 1: Yeah, I know you've never seen Batman, and that's something
- 22:38Speaker 1: that we've got to rectify.
- 22:39Speaker 3: I'm sorry, but I do remember the hype leading up
- 22:43Speaker 3: to the movie coming out, and I mean it was insane.
- 22:47Speaker 3: Do you remember, Like there were commercials and I think
- 22:51Speaker 3: Taco Bell or somebody had some kind of running some
- 22:54Speaker 3: kind of a promo, and I just it was just
- 22:57Speaker 3: I had the shirt.
- 22:58Speaker 1: It was everywhere shirt.
- 23:00Speaker 2: Didn't even see the movie. And I love Jack Nicholson.
- 23:03Speaker 3: I'm the came in a little bit late, I guess,
- 23:07Speaker 3: because I didn't know a whole lot about Jack Nicholson
- 23:09Speaker 3: until the nineties.
- 23:10Speaker 2: But I love him.
- 23:12Speaker 1: Yeah, he's fantastic. And listen, it was huge. I do
- 23:15Speaker 1: remember the hype. Prince got a number one song out
- 23:18Speaker 1: of it. Out loud. All right, Lindsay, let's move on
- 23:21Speaker 1: to your number nine.
- 23:23Speaker 3: Okay, my number nine is Walter Peck from Ghostbusters.
- 23:29Speaker 2: I'm staying in nineteen eighty four.
- 23:31Speaker 6: Hey, there's Nichol Peck.
- 23:34Speaker 11: I represent the Environmental Protection Agency the third District. Great,
- 23:38Speaker 11: exactly what are you a doctor of, mister Vicklin?
- 23:41Speaker 10: Well, I have PhDs and parapsychology and psychology.
- 23:46Speaker 1: I see.
- 23:48Speaker 11: And now you catch ghosts? Yeah, you could say that,
- 23:53Speaker 11: And how many ghosts have you caught? Mister Hank, I'm
- 23:56Speaker 11: not at liberty to say, And where do you put
- 23:59Speaker 11: these ghosts once you catch them?
- 24:01Speaker 6: Into a storage facility?
- 24:04Speaker 11: And would the storage facility be located on these premises?
- 24:08Speaker 6: Yes?
- 24:09Speaker 1: And may I see this storage facility?
- 24:13Speaker 2: No?
- 24:14Speaker 11: And why not, mister Benkerman, because you did not use
- 24:19Speaker 11: the magic word.
- 24:21Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, I love this movie.
- 24:23Speaker 3: Okay, so he obviously he's my villain because he tries
- 24:27Speaker 3: to shut down the Ghostbusters.
- 24:29Speaker 2: But it's just the.
- 24:32Speaker 3: Not that he's a typical villain, but he's a villain
- 24:35Speaker 3: by red tape, right.
- 24:38Speaker 1: We know those people.
- 24:40Speaker 3: Constantly arrogant and condescending, and he just antagonizes the heroes,
- 24:46Speaker 3: which happens to be the Ghostbusters in this movie.
- 24:48Speaker 2: But with that said, is he really a villain?
- 24:53Speaker 3: No? No, because he there was some truth there to
- 24:57Speaker 3: what he was saying.
- 24:58Speaker 1: So, yes, there was some truth there is what he's saying. However,
- 25:02Speaker 1: he did let go all of the Ghosts into New
- 25:04Speaker 1: York City, which caused a huge problem.
- 25:06Speaker 3: Okay, is it safe to have unlicensed nuclear equipment just
- 25:10Speaker 3: loose in the city.
- 25:11Speaker 1: It is, No, it is not. And if there and
- 25:15Speaker 1: there's no bigger jerk as a hero than Peter Weinmann. Yes,
- 25:23Speaker 1: Dave Thoughts, I mean she's back at your tugging at
- 25:25Speaker 1: your heartstrings with nineteen eighty four.
- 25:27Speaker 6: Oh yeah, I mean all time plastic. You know, I
- 25:30Speaker 6: could listen to that entire scene. You cut it off
- 25:32Speaker 6: way too soon. But uh, you're right, not an evil villain,
- 25:37Speaker 6: but an antagonist, like an obstacle in the in our
- 25:40Speaker 6: hero's way. So yeah, similar to Lieutenant Harris in that way,
- 25:44Speaker 6: you know, not a not a big over the top
- 25:45Speaker 6: evil villain you have to go with like Zoul the
- 25:50Speaker 6: key Master or Zul the Gatekeeper, whoever, whoever that was
- 25:54Speaker 6: as the big evil or the state puff marshmallow Man
- 25:56Speaker 6: is the big giant villain, right But but yeah, I
- 26:00Speaker 6: mean delicious role for him. I think it's a William Atherton.
- 26:04Speaker 6: I think is the is the actor's.
- 26:05Speaker 1: Name, That is his name, and he plays a great
- 26:08Speaker 1: jerk because he did it again and die hard.
- 26:10Speaker 6: He did it again and die hard. Yeah, he did
- 26:11Speaker 6: again out thinking real genius. I mean, if you need
- 26:14Speaker 6: that type, he's your man, right there.
- 26:16Speaker 1: Yeah, he kind of got type cast William Atherton and
- 26:19Speaker 1: William Zambka. I guess, yeah, William thing in the eighties yeah,
- 26:23Speaker 1: because Zampka played The Jerk and three movies in a row,
- 26:26Speaker 1: and so did Atherton.
- 26:27Speaker 6: So there you go.
- 26:28Speaker 1: All right, my number nine we are going to move
- 26:33Speaker 1: on to nineteen and eighty seven, and my number nine
- 26:37Speaker 1: is from The Princess Bride. Prince Humperden.
- 26:44Speaker 15: But when I hired Vessini to have her murdered on
- 26:46Speaker 15: our engagement day, I thought that was clever. But it's
- 26:48Speaker 15: going to be so much more moving when I strangled
- 26:51Speaker 15: her on our wedding night. Once Gilder is blamed, the
- 26:54Speaker 15: nation will be truly outraged.
- 26:56Speaker 7: They'll demand we go to war.
- 27:00Speaker 1: Prince Humperding, evil prince from The Princess Bride trying to
- 27:06Speaker 1: take down Princess Buttercup. What do you all think about
- 27:12Speaker 1: my pick?
- 27:13Speaker 3: I mean, he's got to be a bad guy. His
- 27:15Speaker 3: name's humper Ding. I can't even say yes. Played brilliantly
- 27:20Speaker 3: by Chris Arand And may I say Chris Arranda also
- 27:24Speaker 3: played some bad guys in the eighties as well.
- 27:26Speaker 2: So is he type cat?
- 27:27Speaker 1: He may have been these He just plays a good
- 27:30Speaker 1: bad guy. But yeah, Princess Bride one of my favorite
- 27:33Speaker 1: movies from the eighties. It's a kind of a fantasy thing.
- 27:36Speaker 1: You know, it's not something that is a guy's movie
- 27:38Speaker 1: for sure.
- 27:39Speaker 3: But wait, did you say it's not not a guy movie.
- 27:43Speaker 3: I feel like it's men who quote this movie all
- 27:47Speaker 3: the time.
- 27:47Speaker 2: Now it is, so that's funny to me.
- 27:50Speaker 1: It is, but you would think, you know, if they've
- 27:53Speaker 1: made it for anybody, they probably made it for little girls, right,
- 27:56Speaker 1: But get Fred Savage is in it, you know, uh,
- 28:00Speaker 1: it's it may be the only movie that I like
- 28:02Speaker 1: carry elwayson thoughts on that march. Yes, yes, you we
- 28:12Speaker 1: have to do that at every wedding we go to,
- 28:13Speaker 1: don't we.
- 28:15Speaker 2: That's the only thing that makes it tolerable.
- 28:17Speaker 6: Well, I mean, I'll just go ahead and confess I
- 28:20Speaker 6: am not someone who's been able to get into the
- 28:26Speaker 6: Princess Bride I And I.
- 28:30Speaker 16: Feel like, I know, I know that, and I like comedy,
- 28:34Speaker 16: you know, and I can't explain it, but you know,
- 28:39Speaker 16: I understand what you're saying.
- 28:40Speaker 6: Like it feels like it's it's like a fairy tale
- 28:43Speaker 6: story book, right, So that seems like the kind of
- 28:45Speaker 6: thing that should be for little girls. But for whatever reason,
- 28:48Speaker 6: this movie is huge in like the movie geek community,
- 28:54Speaker 6: and guys absolutely do quote it all the time. It's
- 28:57Speaker 6: consistently up there among people's favorite movies. And you know,
- 29:02Speaker 6: it's one of those things where when they're listening favorite movies,
- 29:03Speaker 6: they might not mention it, but if you go, what
- 29:05Speaker 6: about Princess Bride, they're like, oh, yeah, definitely, you know.
- 29:08Speaker 6: Oh and then but and people are quoting it all
- 29:11Speaker 6: the time. And I'm familiar enough with the famous quotes,
- 29:14Speaker 6: and I've seen it a couple of different times. I've
- 29:16Speaker 6: just never like been blown away by it. I've never
- 29:20Speaker 6: I don't know why. I'm not really a Princess Bride guy,
- 29:24Speaker 6: but but it's definitely, you know, looms large in our
- 29:28Speaker 6: cultural memory, and so, uh, you know, it's an excellent pick.
- 29:32Speaker 1: Dave, my name is a Nigo Montoya. You've killed my
- 29:35Speaker 1: movie Prepared to Die.
- 29:39Speaker 6: That's inconceivable.
- 29:41Speaker 17: It's gone under the Giant in Yeah, that's that raises
- 29:46Speaker 17: the floor when when it comes to the deaf quota,
- 29:49Speaker 17: you know the deaf points, uh any any movie andre
- 29:53Speaker 17: the Giant and is already you.
- 29:54Speaker 1: Know Crystal, only the Princess Bride could combine those two
- 29:59Speaker 1: exactly great cast if you think about it, though, But
- 30:01Speaker 1: moving on, we'll move on, Dave, why don't you give
- 30:04Speaker 1: us your number eight.
- 30:06Speaker 6: I want to take us all the way back to
- 30:08Speaker 6: nineteen eighty to one of the twentieth century's earliest great villains,
- 30:17Speaker 6: meing the merciless Clitess. I'm bored.
- 30:23Speaker 7: What playing can you offer me today? An obscure body in.
- 30:27Speaker 15: The Escade system, Your majesty, the inhabitants refer to it
- 30:31Speaker 15: as the planet Earth.
- 30:35Speaker 5: How peaceful it looks.
- 30:49Speaker 13: Most effective of your majesty, we all destroy this.
- 30:55Speaker 5: Earth later, I'd like to play with things while befall.
- 31:01Speaker 1: Annihidation, and then we go straight into the Queen music. Absolutely, man,
- 31:11Speaker 1: what a great movie in nineteen I mean, it's it's
- 31:13Speaker 1: terrible now, But in nineteen eighty, what a fantastic movie.
- 31:16Speaker 1: And I loved it. I can't tell you how many
- 31:18Speaker 1: times I watched that movie.
- 31:20Speaker 6: As a little boy, I saw it in the theaters.
- 31:24Speaker 6: It came out nineteen eighty. I was nine years old.
- 31:27Speaker 6: And it's similar, I think, both in it's humor sensibilities,
- 31:32Speaker 6: but also in my experience with it, which is to say,
- 31:36Speaker 6: I saw it at a young enough age that when
- 31:37Speaker 6: I first saw it, ooh, it was so awesome. It
- 31:41Speaker 6: was the coolest thing ever. And then I revisited a
- 31:44Speaker 6: little bit later and I'm like, man, this is stupid,
- 31:48Speaker 6: Like how dumb is this movie? And then I watched
- 31:53Speaker 6: it a few years after that and I'm like, this
- 31:55Speaker 6: movie is awesome. This movie's fantastic. So I didn't really
- 32:00Speaker 6: it was supposed to be funny at first. Then I
- 32:03Speaker 6: was like, man, this humor is stupid. And then I
- 32:05Speaker 6: was like I entered my dad joke phase I guess
- 32:08Speaker 6: of life, and I'm like, this is actually amazing. So
- 32:11Speaker 6: I love I love the movie. And of course you
- 32:14Speaker 6: know this is Max Fon Saido as being the merciless
- 32:18Speaker 6: Flash Gordon's arch enem me and what can you say?
- 32:24Speaker 6: I mean, it's it's iconic. And I remember watching this.
- 32:29Speaker 6: I remember what very uh very clearly, as a nine
- 32:32Speaker 6: year old in the theater watching this movie. You know,
- 32:35Speaker 6: when he when he meets his end at the end
- 32:37Speaker 6: of the movie, and that the nose of that rocket
- 32:39Speaker 6: show comes buzzing through his chest and his blood is green.
- 32:42Speaker 1: I was like, that is the coolest.
- 32:43Speaker 6: Thing ever this is.
- 32:46Speaker 1: It is such a little Boys movie. It is such
- 32:49Speaker 1: a little Boys movie. There's nobody now that has never
- 32:52Speaker 1: seen it that would watch it now. And go, Wow,
- 32:54Speaker 1: that's really good, right to go. This is stupid. I
- 32:57Speaker 1: can't believe you made me watch it. Harken back to
- 33:00Speaker 1: being a little boy, and you've got all these batties, right,
- 33:03Speaker 1: and you got Flash Gordon trying to defeat all these batties,
- 33:06Speaker 1: and then he's the worst of all and then he
- 33:08Speaker 1: comes with green Blood because he's an alien.
- 33:11Speaker 7: Right.
- 33:11Speaker 1: It's just it was just fantastic, and Max Menside was
- 33:14Speaker 1: was brilliant in it. Perfect, perfect, Lindsey, I'm guessing you've
- 33:18Speaker 1: never seen Flash Gordon.
- 33:19Speaker 3: I don't even know the words coming out of your
- 33:21Speaker 3: mouth right now.
- 33:23Speaker 6: Oh man, it's got Timothy Dalton in it. It has
- 33:26Speaker 6: uh Brian Blessed in it. Oh man, it's.
- 33:31Speaker 1: So Dave Ming The Mercyless was on my list and
- 33:36Speaker 1: it got booted when Brad brought up okay, what's good,
- 33:41Speaker 1: what's gonna end up being my number seven? Okay person?
- 33:46Speaker 1: So I decided to boot Ming off my list.
- 33:50Speaker 6: All right, I can't wait to see who you got.
- 33:54Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, Lindsay, you're number eight.
- 33:59Speaker 2: Okay.
- 33:59Speaker 3: Number eight was a little bit harder for me to
- 34:02Speaker 3: land on, but I'm going with Steph McKee.
- 34:06Speaker 2: Pretty in pink.
- 34:08Speaker 14: I thought that was very uncool you last night, Blayne?
- 34:11Speaker 14: What what wasn't any girl that did that to me?
- 34:15Speaker 14: I would not be too jazz to hold on to Blaine?
- 34:17Speaker 4: How do you care?
- 34:19Speaker 14: Listen, my best friend is conversing with a mutant, you know,
- 34:21Speaker 14: and I'm curious. I don't think that's any reason to
- 34:24Speaker 14: get defense.
- 34:25Speaker 7: I'm not defensive.
- 34:27Speaker 4: He's haimeing to like her?
- 34:28Speaker 8: Right?
- 34:28Speaker 14: What do I have to spell it out for you, Blaine?
- 34:30Speaker 7: I guess so.
- 34:32Speaker 14: Nobody appreciates your sense of humor.
- 34:34Speaker 3: You know.
- 34:34Speaker 14: As a matter of fact, everybody's just about to puke
- 34:36Speaker 14: for me. You know, if you got a hard on
- 34:38Speaker 14: for trash, don't take care of it around those paler hide.
- 34:42Speaker 1: What a jerk?
- 34:43Speaker 2: I hate James Spear. Does that mean he's a good actor?
- 34:49Speaker 9: No?
- 34:49Speaker 1: I think he's being himself there.
- 34:50Speaker 2: I think like that.
- 34:53Speaker 1: Uh you know, I'll let you talk and then I'll go.
- 34:57Speaker 3: He's such a rich, arrogant bully, and he just constantly
- 35:03Speaker 3: is belittling Andy, and he's pressuring his friend Blaine not
- 35:07Speaker 3: to date beneath him, which is so just if so,
- 35:12Speaker 3: he's not he's not violent, He's not that type of villain.
- 35:16Speaker 3: But he's just he's very manipulative with his words.
- 35:21Speaker 2: And he's just an entitled snob.
- 35:23Speaker 1: No, he's just a.
- 35:25Speaker 2: Well he's that too.
- 35:27Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean he's that rich kid that you
- 35:30Speaker 1: that thinks he's better than everybody else, that deserves to
- 35:32Speaker 1: get the crap kicked out of him.
- 35:34Speaker 2: So I can't tell you how much I love Pretty
- 35:36Speaker 2: and Pink.
- 35:36Speaker 3: It came out on TV and I don't know, I'm
- 35:40Speaker 3: just guessing seven or eight.
- 35:42Speaker 2: So I got to see it on TV.
- 35:44Speaker 3: That was the first I knew of Pretty and Pink,
- 35:46Speaker 3: but fell in love with it.
- 35:48Speaker 2: But I couldn't stay up late enough to see the ending.
- 35:51Speaker 3: So I was having to then go around school the
- 35:53Speaker 3: next day and see if I couldn't figure out who
- 35:57Speaker 3: did she end up with?
- 35:59Speaker 2: Because I loved I wanted her to be a donkey.
- 36:03Speaker 1: Back in the eighties, the loser never got the girl. Yeah,
- 36:08Speaker 1: Dave thoughts.
- 36:10Speaker 6: So, I mean he filled a type, right, I mean
- 36:14Speaker 6: you're talking about a high school movie, like a teen
- 36:18Speaker 6: high school movie, So you've got to have this type
- 36:21Speaker 6: that that you're just that you're just supposed to hate.
- 36:25Speaker 6: So and I don't think anybody played that role better
- 36:28Speaker 6: than James Spader and he he you know, he still
- 36:31Speaker 6: played that kind of that smug jerked like later like
- 36:34Speaker 6: in the office and stuff like that. You know, it's
- 36:36Speaker 6: just like he's just got that nailed down and he's
- 36:40Speaker 6: perfectly cast.
- 36:41Speaker 2: That makes me think that might really be him.
- 36:43Speaker 1: It might be it might be all right, my number eight.
- 36:47Speaker 1: I'm going back to nineteen eighty two. And I don't
- 36:49Speaker 1: even think I have to say this guy's name. I
- 36:51Speaker 1: think you'll know it as soon as you hear this clip.
- 36:59Speaker 18: You can don't get a sucking no statue. Give him guts.
- 37:02Speaker 18: I told you I wasn't going away. You got your shot.
- 37:05Speaker 18: I give me mind.
- 37:06Speaker 2: Why SHU get the hell out of it?
- 37:08Speaker 13: Shut out o.
- 37:08Speaker 6: Man, I ain't going no where.
- 37:09Speaker 18: They wanted to tell all these nice folks why you've
- 37:11Speaker 18: been ducking me politics man, just because you wants to
- 37:14Speaker 18: keep me down. Get back by the week. I don't
- 37:16Speaker 18: want a man like me. And they have the title
- 37:18Speaker 18: he doesn't not a puppet like at Hula there.
- 37:20Speaker 7: You know you've got a big mouth, you know.
- 37:22Speaker 18: Wants to come out of close abkh.
- 37:26Speaker 1: And then later on he invites Adrian back to his
- 37:28Speaker 1: apartment to show her what a real man's like that
- 37:32Speaker 1: is clubber Lang from Rocky three in nineteen eighty two.
- 37:36Speaker 1: That is my number eight pick for a villain boy.
- 37:39Speaker 1: Mister T played a great villain in this. He was
- 37:42Speaker 1: always the big, scary, muscular guy with the mohawk, but
- 37:46Speaker 1: he was the friendly goofball in eighteen and he played
- 37:52Speaker 1: a real good bad guy here. And the reason why
- 37:55Speaker 1: I know some people might be like, oh, well, Drago
- 37:57Speaker 1: was worse because Drago killed Apollo. Let me tell you something.
- 38:01Speaker 1: Drago was the machine that the Russians made. He was
- 38:05Speaker 1: just the tool in the instrument. Mister T was just
- 38:09Speaker 1: a bad villain and a bad guy. He also killed
- 38:12Speaker 1: Mickey right and which allowed Apollo to become Rocky's trainer,
- 38:16Speaker 1: which then got Apollo killed by Drago. So if you know,
- 38:21Speaker 1: if it's not for clubb Lang, Apollo's probably still alive.
- 38:25Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying. Lindsey. I know you love the
- 38:30Speaker 1: Rocky movies.
- 38:30Speaker 3: Yeah, I love the Rocky movies, and I love mister T.
- 38:36Speaker 3: I would have been Adrian. I would have probably gone
- 38:37Speaker 3: back to his place.
- 38:41Speaker 1: I mean she had already emasculated Rocky anyway.
- 38:45Speaker 2: I know the damage was done there.
- 38:46Speaker 3: I probably wouldn't have any curiosity, would have gotten the
- 38:49Speaker 3: best office.
- 38:52Speaker 1: And what a great name clubb Lang for a boxer, Yeah,
- 38:56Speaker 1: for an evil boxer. Dave Thoughts, you.
- 38:59Speaker 6: Know, call him the h Freddy Krueger of Rocky opponents
- 39:02Speaker 6: because he had the best personality, right, it was, uh, yeah,
- 39:07Speaker 6: everything you said is a spot on. I totally agree.
- 39:10Speaker 6: Eighty two. You know, that was the year. I think
- 39:12Speaker 6: that eighteam would debut that fall, if I've gotten that right.
- 39:16Speaker 6: So we didn't know him as bea Barrakashet, So this
- 39:20Speaker 6: was largely his introduction to the masses. And how intimidating
- 39:25Speaker 6: does he look, you know, with that mohawk and everything
- 39:27Speaker 6: and that whole attitude going on. He really just made
- 39:30Speaker 6: a huge impression on the movie screens, and you know,
- 39:34Speaker 6: and he could talk of good games, so he like
- 39:36Speaker 6: he was a lot of fun to have as an opponent.
- 39:39Speaker 6: And you just you you weren't sure that Rocky could
- 39:42Speaker 6: actually you know, beat him. Like there was a real
- 39:46Speaker 6: concern that like maybe Rocky had finally met his match.
- 39:49Speaker 6: And so that's that's a credit to mister t to
- 39:53Speaker 6: sell that. So yeah, I love Clubverlink.
- 39:55Speaker 1: Yeah, and spoiler alert for those of you that haven't
- 39:57Speaker 1: seen it, but he actually does the He beats the
- 39:59Speaker 1: crap rock I mean, Apollo beat up Rocky pretty good,
- 40:02Speaker 1: but Rocky went the distance. Mister T knocks or mister
- 40:05Speaker 1: T clubber Land knocks Rocky out. And it's funny that
- 40:09Speaker 1: you said this was our introduction to him, Dave, because
- 40:12Speaker 1: largely this was the introduction to hul Cogan as well
- 40:15Speaker 1: in Rocky Too, as well as Thunderlips, and then those
- 40:17Speaker 1: two would team up together for the main event in
- 40:20Speaker 1: the first WrestleMania, So I think you know it comes
- 40:23Speaker 1: full circle. Really cool stuff. So that's right, all right,
- 40:26Speaker 1: moving on, Dave, we are up to number seven, and
- 40:31Speaker 1: I want to know who you got, all right.
- 40:34Speaker 6: Number seven is the only one on my list that
- 40:36Speaker 6: I think is more of an antagonist rather than a
- 40:39Speaker 6: straight out evil villain. But he definitely fits the profile
- 40:44Speaker 6: of the high school bully. But I don't think when
- 40:47Speaker 6: you're talking about high school bullies from nineteen eighty cinema,
- 40:52Speaker 6: everybody gets in line behind Biff Tenant.
- 40:58Speaker 12: What are you looking at the butthead fly? What do
- 41:03Speaker 12: you think you're doing? Hey, I'm talking to human fly.
- 41:06Speaker 12: You irish bugged it? Hello, hello, anybody, I think fly,
- 41:13Speaker 12: what are you looking at butthead?
- 41:14Speaker 7: So what's to you butthead?
- 41:21Speaker 12: Since you knew here, I'm gonna cut you a break today,
- 41:27Speaker 12: So why don't you make.
- 41:28Speaker 7: Like a tree and get out of here?
- 41:32Speaker 6: And fly? I told you never to come in here.
- 41:35Speaker 12: How much money you got on you?
- 41:36Speaker 2: Well, Biff Tanning, and Biff's on my list, and Biff.
- 41:43Speaker 1: Is also on my list as well.
- 41:45Speaker 2: Oh my goodness. Okay, so he's perfect.
- 41:48Speaker 1: Yeah, he is the perfect lindsay, where'd you have him?
- 41:50Speaker 7: An?
- 41:50Speaker 2: I had him at number three.
- 41:51Speaker 1: I also had him at number three a way, So Dave,
- 41:57Speaker 1: what your pick? Go ahead and talk about him.
- 41:59Speaker 6: For of all, there's no telling how many times I've
- 42:03Speaker 6: seen this movie, probably a hundred times. I don't know
- 42:05Speaker 6: if I've ever caught the line McFly, you're an Irish bug.
- 42:08Speaker 6: That's hilarious. That's hilarious when the mech prefect is probably
- 42:15Speaker 6: more Scottish than Irish. But that's Biff for you. Uh yeah,
- 42:18Speaker 6: I mean back to the future, iconic movie, iconic for
- 42:22Speaker 6: the entire decade, always at the top of everybody's list.
- 42:26Speaker 6: And when you're making a list like this, you look
- 42:29Speaker 6: at the biggest movies, the most memorable movies, most culturally
- 42:33Speaker 6: impactful movies, and go who's the bad guy? And so
- 42:36Speaker 6: it's easy to pick Biff because, I mean, he did
- 42:39Speaker 6: such a great job. That's Tom Wilson playing Biff, and
- 42:43Speaker 6: you just absolutely hated him and wanted to see him
- 42:48Speaker 6: get his come up. It's and to see him antagonized
- 42:53Speaker 6: McFly throughout the decades and throughout history. You just really
- 42:57Speaker 6: had plenty of time to settle in and and hate
- 42:59Speaker 6: him as a villain.
- 43:02Speaker 3: Lindsay, So he's the he's the bully throughout all of
- 43:06Speaker 3: the Back to the Future movie, and ever he never
- 43:09Speaker 3: sees the error of his ways. He never changes face
- 43:13Speaker 3: on this and so I think that's one reason that
- 43:15Speaker 3: he's like the perfect eighties villain, because he stays the course.
- 43:19Speaker 1: Yeah, I good point. I was going to bring that
- 43:21Speaker 1: up as well. You know, it wasn't just the one movie, right,
- 43:23Speaker 1: I mean eighty five Back to the Future, it is
- 43:27Speaker 1: probably the biggest movie of the eighties, right, and the
- 43:29Speaker 1: most iconic movie of the eighties. But he brings it
- 43:31Speaker 1: back again in eighty nine as older Biff, right, who
- 43:35Speaker 1: goes back in time with the sports book and makes
- 43:38Speaker 1: himself rich, and then again in ninety for or eighty
- 43:41Speaker 1: ten and Back to the Future three. So yeah, he
- 43:46Speaker 1: was fantastic.
- 43:47Speaker 3: It's funny like when I go back and I watch
- 43:49Speaker 3: these movies now as a as a mom to a
- 43:52Speaker 3: fastly approaching teenager and to see him kind of push
- 43:57Speaker 3: himself on Lorraine like and that just it takes him
- 44:01Speaker 3: to a whole other level for me of just another
- 44:03Speaker 3: level of egg yes, where I'm just like, okay, dude,
- 44:06Speaker 3: somebody needs to put you in your place. So yeah
- 44:10Speaker 3: that I have to point that out too, Like when
- 44:12Speaker 3: I first saw Back to the Future, never would have
- 44:14Speaker 3: noticed that.
- 44:16Speaker 1: I mean, he was bad to all the mcflies, right
- 44:19Speaker 1: to Lorraine, to George, and to Marty. I think just
- 44:22Speaker 1: Marty had the upper hand because he knew what kind
- 44:25Speaker 1: of guy he was, and he was from a more
- 44:27Speaker 1: advanced time, so he kind of knew how to get
- 44:29Speaker 1: away with stuff. But yeah, Biff definitely one of the
- 44:32Speaker 1: best bullies of the eighties and one of the best
- 44:35Speaker 1: bad guys of the eighties. All right, Lindsey, moving on
- 44:39Speaker 1: to your number seven.
- 44:40Speaker 3: Okay, so this one, I think this guy's a villain.
- 44:44Speaker 3: But this is gonna be a little bit of comedy.
- 44:46Speaker 2: Relief for us.
- 44:46Speaker 3: So my next one is Francis Buxton from Peewee's Big
- 44:51Speaker 3: Adventure Marty pebe Well, Francis, today is my birthday and
- 44:58Speaker 3: my father said I can have anything I want.
- 45:01Speaker 2: Good for you and your father.
- 45:03Speaker 6: So guess what I want?
- 45:04Speaker 19: A new brain?
- 45:06Speaker 6: No, your bike?
- 45:09Speaker 20: Ha ha I, what's so funny?
- 45:14Speaker 1: Pee wee?
- 45:16Speaker 6: It's not for sale, francess.
- 45:20Speaker 10: My father says, everything is negotiable, pee wee.
- 45:24Speaker 6: I wouldn't sell my bike for all the money in
- 45:26Speaker 6: the world, not for a hundred billion, million trillion dollars.
- 45:30Speaker 2: Then you're crazy.
- 45:32Speaker 11: I know you are, But what am I?
- 45:33Speaker 6: You're a ner?
- 45:34Speaker 21: I know you are, but what am I?
- 45:36Speaker 2: You're an idiot? I know you are. What am I?
- 45:38Speaker 6: I know you are?
- 45:39Speaker 2: But what am I?
- 45:40Speaker 8: I know you are?
- 45:41Speaker 9: Am I?
- 45:41Speaker 8: I know you?
- 45:42Speaker 2: I know you are? But what am I?
- 45:44Speaker 12: I know you are?
- 45:45Speaker 6: But what am I?
- 45:45Speaker 2: Infinity?
- 45:46Speaker 1: No, that's certainly the funniest one of the group.
- 45:52Speaker 3: I love this movie and just hearing those clips it
- 45:55Speaker 3: makes me want to go watch it again.
- 45:56Speaker 2: So one of my.
- 45:57Speaker 3: Favorite scenes of any movie is the bathtub scene where
- 46:04Speaker 3: Francis has taking a bath in this huge light pool
- 46:09Speaker 3: bathtok room and pee Wee has had enough and he's
- 46:13Speaker 3: going to get his bike back, And just the hilarity
- 46:16Speaker 3: that ensues and the fact that he that Francis pushed
- 46:21Speaker 3: pee Wee.
- 46:21Speaker 2: To violence just goes to show you what an awesome
- 46:25Speaker 2: villain he is.
- 46:27Speaker 1: Uh the pee Wee in the pool still in a suit.
- 46:32Speaker 2: O kay, yeah, he says, in a suit.
- 46:34Speaker 6: Yeah, the suit can't come off Peewee.
- 46:37Speaker 1: Superman, right.
- 46:39Speaker 8: Uh.
- 46:40Speaker 1: Yeah, this is certainly the funniest pick I think that
- 46:43Speaker 1: we're going to have all night long. Pee Wee nineteen
- 46:48Speaker 1: eighty six. Yeah. Yeah, Uh. Francis played a good villain
- 46:55Speaker 1: and this was somebody that wasn't even on my radar.
- 46:58Speaker 6: Dave, I'm not much to add. It's actually been a
- 47:02Speaker 6: very long thom since I've seen this movie. But I mean,
- 47:04Speaker 6: I just love the fact his name is Francis. I mean,
- 47:08Speaker 6: you know, it's just like it's I don't know, just
- 47:11Speaker 6: the way he was able to use that name against him.
- 47:13Speaker 6: I just I think that's the funniest part.
- 47:17Speaker 7: All right.
- 47:17Speaker 1: My number seven is what booted ming the Mercyless off
- 47:20Speaker 1: my list when Brad brought him up, and then I
- 47:22Speaker 1: can hear it, I had to go. So for some people,
- 47:27Speaker 1: illiteracy may be there.
- 47:28Speaker 6: El Guapo, would you say I have a plethora of pinatas?
- 47:34Speaker 1: What the plethora?
- 47:39Speaker 7: Oh?
- 47:40Speaker 22: Yes, you have a bletherakfe What is a plethora?
- 47:47Speaker 5: Why?
- 47:48Speaker 6: Well, you told me I have a plethora, And I
- 47:51Speaker 6: just would like to.
- 47:51Speaker 2: Know if you know what a plethora is.
- 47:54Speaker 17: I would not like to think that a person would
- 47:56Speaker 17: tell someone he has a plethora and find out that
- 47:59Speaker 17: that person has no idea what it means to have.
- 48:03Speaker 1: A Oh boy, this was the movie that taught me
- 48:09Speaker 1: what a plethora of meant.
- 48:10Speaker 3: Really, Yes, I know, it's a definitely kind of a
- 48:13Speaker 3: quote that's used in our house.
- 48:15Speaker 1: Again, absolutely, I always say, whatever you say you have
- 48:18Speaker 1: a lot of presents, or Emmy has a lot of
- 48:20Speaker 1: presence for her birthday, I always say, would you say
- 48:23Speaker 1: she has a plethora of presents? But yeah, El Guapo,
- 48:28Speaker 1: great bad guy, funny movie. So I kind of went
- 48:31Speaker 1: off the rails here, But you know, three amigos, very funny.
- 48:35Speaker 1: Our heroes are Chevy Chase, Steve Martin, and Martin Short.
- 48:38Speaker 1: You don't get much funnier than that. And then we
- 48:41Speaker 1: have El Guapo as the evil Mexican Lord trying to
- 48:47Speaker 1: Mary Carmen and you know, just kill the Amigos.
- 48:53Speaker 2: It is a stupid movie, but a good villain.
- 48:59Speaker 1: That's all you got to say about That.
- 49:01Speaker 3: Says all I've brought to the table. Because I do
- 49:03Speaker 3: not like the Three Amigos.
- 49:06Speaker 6: I can't I can't follow you there, I was about
- 49:07Speaker 6: to say. I was about to say, is this this movie?
- 49:13Speaker 6: This movie is hilarious and I think largely underrated. I
- 49:19Speaker 6: know our friends at the pop Culture of Year Book
- 49:22Speaker 6: are huge in this movie, and I don't blame them
- 49:24Speaker 6: one bit, and I appreciate them carrying the flag for
- 49:26Speaker 6: it because a lot of people seem to forget this one,
- 49:29Speaker 6: and they really shouldn't. This movie is hilarious and to
- 49:33Speaker 6: see those three guys together working together, I mean, it's
- 49:37Speaker 6: it will if you haven't seen it in a while,
- 49:39Speaker 6: rewatch it. It will surprise you of how much you're
- 49:42Speaker 6: gonna laugh at this. It is a funny, funny movie.
- 49:46Speaker 6: I I I don't feel like I've seen it enough.
- 49:50Speaker 6: I gotta spend more time with the movie. I'm a
- 49:52Speaker 6: huge Chevy Chase fan, and even though it's odd how
- 49:57Speaker 6: all his good stuff like ended when the decade ended,
- 49:59Speaker 6: I mean, it was a whole it was a hard crash,
- 50:01Speaker 6: but in nineteen eighty five eighty six he was flying high.
- 50:05Speaker 6: And three Migos is awesome to me. It's got the
- 50:08Speaker 6: same premise as a tropic thunder, because you've got actors
- 50:15Speaker 6: who think they're working a gig. What they don't realize
- 50:19Speaker 6: as they're actually in a real situation, you know, and
- 50:22Speaker 6: that that disconnect is the fodder for all of the comedy.
- 50:26Speaker 6: And so I see a connection between those two movies.
- 50:29Speaker 6: But I give this one a huge thumbs up.
- 50:32Speaker 1: Awesome. Well, Dave your number.
- 50:35Speaker 6: Six, Well, let me see what do I have for
- 50:38Speaker 6: number six? All right, this is one that you know.
- 50:42Speaker 6: At first you might not realize he's a villain, but
- 50:45Speaker 6: if he stopped for one second and think about the movie,
- 50:48Speaker 6: you realize he actually is. He's not the hero, He's
- 50:51Speaker 6: absolutely the bad guy. This is Arnold Schwarzenegger in his
- 50:56Speaker 6: star making turn from nineteen eighty four The Terminator. I'm
- 51:02Speaker 6: a friend of Siara Kanna. I was told that she's here,
- 51:06Speaker 6: so I.
- 51:06Speaker 1: Can't see her statement.
- 51:08Speaker 6: Where is she?
- 51:10Speaker 7: Look?
- 51:10Speaker 4: It may take a while. I want to wait this
- 51:12Speaker 4: a bench over there.
- 51:15Speaker 6: I'll be back.
- 51:21Speaker 1: Great pick.
- 51:21Speaker 8: Dave.
- 51:22Speaker 1: I I was gonna save this till the end, but
- 51:25Speaker 1: he's on my honorable mention list. Fantastic, just a fantastic character.
- 51:31Speaker 1: But go ahead.
- 51:32Speaker 6: I mean, what can you say. It's the Terminator. I mean,
- 51:35Speaker 6: it is one of the iconic movies from the decade.
- 51:38Speaker 6: It made a star out of Arnold, It's made a
- 51:41Speaker 6: star out of James Cameron. It is a fantastic sci
- 51:45Speaker 6: fi time traveling action pack movie that holds up to
- 51:49Speaker 6: this day. And it was a bold choice for Arnold
- 51:53Speaker 6: to make at the time because it was a villain
- 51:55Speaker 6: role and he was coming off of Conan and a
- 51:57Speaker 6: couple of things like that. He was trying to, you know,
- 52:01Speaker 6: to gain his traction as a movie star, and it
- 52:05Speaker 6: felt like a risk to not play the hero. But
- 52:09Speaker 6: what a good move this proved to be. I think
- 52:12Speaker 6: it's the only time he plays the villain in a
- 52:14Speaker 6: Terminator movie. But he's playing the villain here, and I mean,
- 52:19Speaker 6: the movie speaks for herself. It's just awesome. And you know,
- 52:22Speaker 6: my goodness, when you've got Arnold Twarzenegger as originating the
- 52:27Speaker 6: role as the Terminator in the most iconic movie, one
- 52:30Speaker 6: of the most iconic movies from the decade. You can't
- 52:33Speaker 6: leave him off this list.
- 52:35Speaker 3: So what I remember about the Terminator, and I may
- 52:39Speaker 3: be misremembering, doesn't he reach in and grab like like
- 52:45Speaker 3: an organ from somebody and like rips it out. And
- 52:49Speaker 3: as a kid seeing that.
- 52:51Speaker 2: I was like traumatized. I'd never seen something like that before.
- 52:56Speaker 2: That was way too hardcore for little lens.
- 53:00Speaker 6: There's a lot of that going around in nineteen eighty
- 53:01Speaker 6: four because there was also Indiana Jones at the Temple
- 53:04Speaker 6: of Doom.
- 53:05Speaker 23: But for sure, yeah, great character, scary character because he
- 53:13Speaker 23: was almost unkillable, but he looked human, And you know,
- 53:18Speaker 23: I can't describe him, so I'll let John Chriest describe him.
- 53:21Speaker 1: The Nator is out there.
- 53:24Speaker 20: It can't be bargained with, It can't be reasoned with.
- 53:29Speaker 20: It doesn't feel pity or remorse or fear, and it
- 53:33Speaker 20: absolutely will not stop ever until you are dead.
- 53:40Speaker 2: There's a good villain right there.
- 53:41Speaker 1: No pity, no remorse, no nothing, basically a sociopath.
- 53:47Speaker 6: Yes, yeah, and you know, at the time, let's just
- 53:50Speaker 6: say Arnold had maybe a limited range as an actor.
- 53:54Speaker 6: H not now, not at all, No, not say its
- 53:57Speaker 6: kindergarten copyright. But anyway, so it fit him like it was.
- 54:02Speaker 6: That was a role that he could nail, and he
- 54:04Speaker 6: absolutely did.
- 54:07Speaker 1: All right, Lindsey, your number six, Okay.
- 54:11Speaker 3: I struggled with who was going to be six and
- 54:13Speaker 3: who was going to be five? So I think y'all
- 54:14Speaker 3: will get a kick out of ultimately how I decided
- 54:18Speaker 3: that that should go. But number six for me is
- 54:22Speaker 3: Frank Shirley, the boss from National Lampoon's Christmas vacation.
- 54:29Speaker 6: Mark Clark.
- 54:34Speaker 1: That's Bill, sir.
- 54:36Speaker 10: Are you the one who was working on that non
- 54:37Speaker 10: nutritive cereal varnish? Yes, sir, I've got to give a
- 54:40Speaker 10: speech to a trade group. I'd like to mention it
- 54:43Speaker 10: right for a brief summary and have it to me
- 54:44Speaker 10: by the end of the day. My pleasure layman's terms.
- 54:48Speaker 10: None of that insight bullshit jargon that nobody understands, Yes, sir,
- 54:57Speaker 10: don't forget that report Bill, Yes, sir, thank you.
- 55:00Speaker 1: Christmas. There you go.
- 55:04Speaker 2: Is he just about to launch into the.
- 55:06Speaker 1: Merry Christmas, Merry Christmas?
- 55:08Speaker 2: Yes?
- 55:08Speaker 1: Yes.
- 55:09Speaker 3: When I lived in the corporate world, I like to
- 55:12Speaker 3: use that quote a lot because that was very fitting there.
- 55:15Speaker 3: But I think we've all known this boss. He's cheap
- 55:19Speaker 3: he's pompous. He's definitely prioritizing the company's bottom line over
- 55:24Speaker 3: the employees. Christmas present, that's forty sure Christmas bonus.
- 55:29Speaker 2: You know, is he a villain? I think he is.
- 55:32Speaker 3: To the Griswalds, he is the Griswolds, and definitely to cousin.
- 55:37Speaker 2: Eddie, you know.
- 55:40Speaker 3: Ultimately, now I think the difference might be with Frank
- 55:44Speaker 3: versus some of these other guys.
- 55:46Speaker 2: He realizes the error of.
- 55:47Speaker 3: His way, Yes he does, and so he does change
- 55:52Speaker 3: and makes up for the Jelly of the Month club
- 55:55Speaker 3: subscription that he's given for their Christmas bonuses that year.
- 56:00Speaker 1: Much like Johnny Lawrence when he handed Danielson the trophy
- 56:03Speaker 1: and said, you're all right, Larrusso yes.
- 56:05Speaker 2: But Brian Doyle Murray, he plays. He's a good character actor.
- 56:09Speaker 1: He's fantastic Dave.
- 56:12Speaker 9: Yeah.
- 56:12Speaker 6: So, so you know, this character's it's more of the
- 56:17Speaker 6: character's influence on the Grouse Walls more than his actual
- 56:21Speaker 6: presence on the screen. Right, So they're having to deal
- 56:24Speaker 6: with the circumstances. This god's created, but you largely don't
- 56:27Speaker 6: see him in the movie. And then when you do
- 56:29Speaker 6: get him, you see it's Brian Dole Murray and that
- 56:31Speaker 6: just icing on the cake. So I mean, he's always
- 56:35Speaker 6: a lot of fun and uh and to me it
- 56:37Speaker 6: bookends the nineteen eighties for Chimmy Chase quite nicely because
- 56:41Speaker 6: Brian dol Murray is also in Caddyshack, so I like
- 56:44Speaker 6: having that symmetry there also. But yeah, I mean, great movie.
- 56:47Speaker 6: My favorite vacation movie easily, and it's it's in my
- 56:51Speaker 6: annual rotation every December.
- 56:53Speaker 1: Every December we're watching that. It's not my favorite vacation movie,
- 56:57Speaker 1: it's my second favorite, but every December we're watching like
- 57:00Speaker 1: it more now than I do the original. All right.
- 57:04Speaker 1: My number six is from the nineteen eighty five kids
- 57:11Speaker 1: classic The Goonies. Mama for Telly.
- 57:16Speaker 23: White Capparoni.
- 57:20Speaker 1: Come Away, run Away, I said, not away now, always
- 57:25Speaker 1: take a sight you always likes better yet.
- 57:28Speaker 11: But he's been here.
- 57:29Speaker 5: The core is broken.
- 57:30Speaker 13: Check your brother.
- 57:32Speaker 10: Well, I'll show.
- 57:33Speaker 3: You better again.
- 57:40Speaker 2: I'm not going back to the.
- 57:40Speaker 1: Super Just don't up sha, all right, so you can
- 57:47Speaker 1: do the Foratellies all together. Mama for Telly or the Fortellies.
- 57:50Speaker 1: But I love her. She chains up one of her
- 57:54Speaker 1: sons that she dropped, you know, on the floor. Many times,
- 57:57Speaker 1: and then says, I'm not going back to the zoo again.
- 58:00Speaker 1: She tries to blend Chunk's hand. She shoots at kids
- 58:06Speaker 1: trying to find a treasure, and then when there's more
- 58:08Speaker 1: than enough for everybody to go around, she makes sure
- 58:11Speaker 1: that those kids get none of that treasure, even making
- 58:14Speaker 1: mouth spit out the pearls that he had hidden in
- 58:18Speaker 1: his ironically enough mouth. Mama for Telly, great Batty.
- 58:23Speaker 3: So I actually have Mama for Tlly as my number one?
- 58:27Speaker 2: Oh wow, she's my number one. You mean to tell
- 58:31Speaker 2: you why now? Or you mean a hold on? No,
- 58:33Speaker 2: go ahead, talk about it, because she is in.
- 58:36Speaker 3: My list at least the only one that she truly
- 58:40Speaker 3: is a bad guy. It's not she's not misunderstood. She
- 58:45Speaker 3: has no redemption at the end, like Biff could be.
- 58:51Speaker 3: Biff is heading in that direction, and he does ultimately,
- 58:54Speaker 3: but like she's done the jail time for it.
- 59:02Speaker 2: No arguing.
- 59:03Speaker 1: No, I'm not gonna argue.
- 59:04Speaker 2: Yeah, you guys are too easy. Did y'all take something
- 59:07Speaker 2: before we.
- 59:08Speaker 6: Say, hey, look, these are just all awesome movies. I
- 59:11Speaker 6: mean there's no there's it's hard to make a bad pic.
- 59:14Speaker 6: I actually don't have her on my list, but I
- 59:17Speaker 6: can't argue with the pick the Goodies of course, another
- 59:20Speaker 6: iconic movie and so much fun such just like the
- 59:24Speaker 6: perfect kids adventure movie that just captures all the wonderment
- 59:28Speaker 6: and all the imagination and you know, the Fertilities are
- 59:32Speaker 6: the bad guys in it and absolutely deserves a spot
- 59:35Speaker 6: on this list.
- 59:36Speaker 1: Yeah to me, it's the Indiana Jones for kids.
- 59:38Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 59:39Speaker 1: Absolutely, all right, Dave, we are entering the top five.
- 59:43Speaker 1: I'm wondering what your top five looks like.
- 59:46Speaker 6: Listen. I know you have picked a rocky opponent, and
- 59:52Speaker 6: I like that Rocky opponent, but there is one better
- 59:57Speaker 6: and if you disagree, I will break you. It is
- 1:00:02Speaker 6: Drag from.
- 1:00:05Speaker 12: I can like feted real Jumpion soon Ho what live
- 1:00:13Speaker 12: know my Navy.
- 1:00:16Speaker 1: Draga Drag. If he dies he does, no, Yes, I
- 1:00:24Speaker 1: must break you. There you go, Dave, don't break me.
- 1:00:30Speaker 1: If he dies, he dies the coldest line.
- 1:00:34Speaker 6: Of hell evil can you get? Look? I will shamelessly
- 1:00:40Speaker 6: plant my flag on the hill. That Rocky four is
- 1:00:43Speaker 6: the greatest sports movie of all time. This is the
- 1:00:47Speaker 6: height of Reagan era eighties. It's the United States versus
- 1:00:53Speaker 6: Russia boiled down to a boxing match. It is Rocky
- 1:00:56Speaker 6: representing all that is good in the world against drag.
- 1:01:00Speaker 6: You cannot be this ultimate iconic matchup of freedom versus oppression.
- 1:01:08Speaker 6: And this is just you know, stars meant better, Just
- 1:01:12Speaker 6: Rocky four, Drago.
- 1:01:16Speaker 1: Lindsey.
- 1:01:17Speaker 3: So, I think I said this in a recent episode,
- 1:01:20Speaker 3: but Drongo scared me. Then Drongo scares me. Now I'm like,
- 1:01:26Speaker 3: I'm literally scared of him. I wouldn't want to run
- 1:01:28Speaker 3: into him anywhere. I saw him at the grocery store,
- 1:01:32Speaker 3: I would high tail it out of there.
- 1:01:35Speaker 1: Yeah, Drago's a great bad guy. I had to pick
- 1:01:38Speaker 1: one of the two, either Drago or clubver Lang, and
- 1:01:42Speaker 1: clubber Lang was my introduction to Rocky. Rocky three was
- 1:01:45Speaker 1: my introduction to Rocky, So that's why I chose clubber Lang.
- 1:01:49Speaker 1: But Drago's certainly worthy of this pick. He does kill Apollo,
- 1:01:54Speaker 1: he does say if he dies, he dies. But like
- 1:01:57Speaker 1: I said, he was the tool of the instry. But
- 1:02:00Speaker 1: I will agree with you, Dave, that it was the
- 1:02:02Speaker 1: height of Russia versus USA. And you know, Rocky ended
- 1:02:08Speaker 1: the Cold.
- 1:02:09Speaker 6: War, and that's right, he saved the world.
- 1:02:12Speaker 1: And while I disagree with your pick of Drago over
- 1:02:15Speaker 1: clever Lang, I will say if I can change and
- 1:02:19Speaker 1: you can change. All right, Lind's your turn for number five.
- 1:02:28Speaker 2: Okay, might be a little controversial.
- 1:02:31Speaker 3: My number five is Johnny Castle from Dirty Dancing.
- 1:02:37Speaker 6: Nobody puts paid you in the corner.
- 1:02:40Speaker 19: Sorry about the disruption, folks, but I always do the
- 1:02:43Speaker 19: last dance of the season. This year, somebody told me
- 1:02:46Speaker 19: not to, so I'm gonna do my kind of dancing
- 1:02:50Speaker 19: with a great partner.
- 1:02:53Speaker 6: It's not only a terrific dancer.
- 1:02:56Speaker 19: Somebody who's taught me that there are people willing to
- 1:02:59Speaker 19: stand up for other people no matter what it cost him.
- 1:03:04Speaker 3: So definitely he's not a traditional villain. But let me
- 1:03:08Speaker 3: tell you again, as a mom of a fastly approaching
- 1:03:13Speaker 3: teenager who happens to be beautiful, you better get your
- 1:03:18Speaker 3: bleeping fingers off my kid. Why did we think back
- 1:03:22Speaker 3: in the eighties that baby's father was the villain?
- 1:03:27Speaker 2: He was the only rational person there.
- 1:03:30Speaker 3: Yes, he was the only true adult thinking clearly. But
- 1:03:37Speaker 3: what is romantic about a forty ish grown man and
- 1:03:44Speaker 3: a seventeen ish year old girl.
- 1:03:46Speaker 2: That's disgusting.
- 1:03:48Speaker 1: Oh that was like? That was like when Dylan dated Brenda,
- 1:03:52Speaker 1: ninety year old man dating a seventeen year old girl.
- 1:03:55Speaker 6: Oh away, all right, So let me weigh in here,
- 1:03:58Speaker 6: because nineteen eighty seven, I am in eleventh grade, and
- 1:04:04Speaker 6: so I am surrounded every day in school by sixteen
- 1:04:08Speaker 6: and seventeen year old girls. And I can tell you
- 1:04:13Speaker 6: that all was forgiven because of Patrick Swayze. It was
- 1:04:17Speaker 6: all about Patrick Swayzee. Patrick Swayze eight nineteen eighty seven.
- 1:04:24Speaker 6: All the girls just wanted to be Jennifer Gray.
- 1:04:26Speaker 2: Oh absolutely. And listen seventeen eighteen, nineteen, twenty year.
- 1:04:32Speaker 3: Old Lens she would have loved Johnny Castle.
- 1:04:37Speaker 2: But forty six year old Lens.
- 1:04:42Speaker 1: So, while not the villain in the traditional sense, and
- 1:04:45Speaker 1: maybe the protagonist of the movie, I'm gonna say, listen, dude,
- 1:04:53Speaker 1: keep your hands off my seventeen year old daughter. And
- 1:04:55Speaker 1: you surely ain't dirty dancing with her, teaching dirty he dance,
- 1:05:00Speaker 1: and here he comes up. I normally do the last day.
- 1:05:03Speaker 1: I always do the last Get over yourself. You're not
- 1:05:06Speaker 1: doing it this year. Yeah, that's all there is to it.
- 1:05:09Speaker 1: I got some to say about him.
- 1:05:11Speaker 6: So I got a question, Yeah, who's creepier Johnny Castle?
- 1:05:17Speaker 6: Biff Tannan or Kip Winger Johnny Castle?
- 1:05:22Speaker 2: Why I'm not sure, that's a good question.
- 1:05:25Speaker 1: So Biff at least was a high school legs. Now
- 1:05:29Speaker 1: he's a future rapist for sure. But Johnny Castle, he
- 1:05:34Speaker 1: should know better. He's he's like forty five, he's got
- 1:05:37Speaker 1: grandchildren at this point, and he's hitting on the seventeen
- 1:05:41Speaker 1: year old. He's hitting on Ferris Mueller's.
- 1:05:43Speaker 2: Sister, which could have put him on a on a list.
- 1:05:46Speaker 1: For the rest of them. Oh he's yeah, he's He's
- 1:05:48Speaker 1: on a list for the rest of his life for sure.
- 1:05:50Speaker 1: And I'm going to say this, So my brother has
- 1:05:52Speaker 1: a fan theory. My brother Matt, when he shout out
- 1:05:55Speaker 1: to him, has a fan theory that Johnny Castle ends
- 1:05:58Speaker 1: up going to prison for his ill illicit relationship with
- 1:06:02Speaker 1: Baby and then uh comes out of prison and because
- 1:06:06Speaker 1: he is an offender that goes on a list, he
- 1:06:09Speaker 1: changes his name to Dalton and moves to Missouri to
- 1:06:15Speaker 1: be a bouncer in a bar that checks out.
- 1:06:18Speaker 2: I'll go with that, Yeah, all right.
- 1:06:23Speaker 1: My number five comes from what I thought was the
- 1:06:29Speaker 1: greatest movie of all time when I saw it at
- 1:06:32Speaker 1: seven years old, and that is nineteen eighty one's Superman two.
- 1:06:43Speaker 6: I rn.
- 1:06:46Speaker 24: I always is there no one on this planet to
- 1:06:50Speaker 24: we even challenge me.
- 1:06:52Speaker 6: I am General Zod, your ruler. Yes, today Hedy begins
- 1:07:00Speaker 6: a new order.
- 1:07:01Speaker 10: And when you do come to me, Superman, if you
- 1:07:05Speaker 10: dare might defyre you come.
- 1:07:09Speaker 19: Come I near before Zod, Come to me, son of Jero,
- 1:07:15Speaker 19: Nil before Sir.
- 1:07:18Speaker 1: Niil before Zd. So we just lost Aaron Stamp a
- 1:07:24Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago. Uh he played General Zod. And
- 1:07:28Speaker 1: let me tell you, I was absolutely terrified of General
- 1:07:32Speaker 1: Zodd as a seven year old, and I thought that
- 1:07:35Speaker 1: he was going to kill Superman. And I thought that
- 1:07:37Speaker 1: he had killed Superman because that's what the people in
- 1:07:40Speaker 1: the movie were saying, that they had killed Superman. And
- 1:07:43Speaker 1: so I just like I said many times, I thought
- 1:07:47Speaker 1: this was the greatest movie ever. I had the little
- 1:07:50Speaker 1: trading cards for it. I've said it on this podcast
- 1:07:53Speaker 1: many of times. I studied those trading cards like people
- 1:07:58Speaker 1: studied the Zapruder film. I picked a part, every little
- 1:08:01Speaker 1: scene from it because I love that movie so much.
- 1:08:04Speaker 1: General Zode, great guy, Terrence Stamp, great actor, did a
- 1:08:09Speaker 1: great job as General Zode. Go down one of the
- 1:08:12Speaker 1: best villains of all time. And that's actually what started
- 1:08:15Speaker 1: this episode was when he passed away, I tweeted one
- 1:08:19Speaker 1: of the best villains from the nineteen eighties, and then
- 1:08:23Speaker 1: that spawned this show. So that's why we're doing this.
- 1:08:26Speaker 1: Terrence Stamp, who would also go on to play, ironically enough,
- 1:08:31Speaker 1: the voice of Jarrell in Smallville. Oh wow, Lindsey thoughts.
- 1:08:37Speaker 2: I've got nothing to add.
- 1:08:38Speaker 3: When you came to me when he passed away, and
- 1:08:40Speaker 3: you were like, can you believe this? And I went
- 1:08:42Speaker 3: who You're like, he played the best villain. I'm like, what, who?
- 1:08:47Speaker 2: So I don't I can't add anything.
- 1:08:49Speaker 1: Sorry, Dave, I know you've got stuff to say.
- 1:08:53Speaker 6: Oh yeah, I mean Superman two loomed large for me
- 1:08:57Speaker 6: nineteen You know, my like clear conscious memory go into movies.
- 1:09:01Speaker 6: Really comes into focus with Empire Strikes Back and Raiders
- 1:09:04Speaker 6: the Lost Arc right eighty eighty one, So nineteen eighty one,
- 1:09:08Speaker 6: so many great movies coming out. Saw Superman two in
- 1:09:10Speaker 6: the theater, blown away by it. I thought General Zod
- 1:09:14Speaker 6: and the other two evil Kryptonians were the coolest ever.
- 1:09:17Speaker 6: You know, I was a superhero fan already, and so
- 1:09:21Speaker 6: much of especially Superman stories, whether it's the nineteen fifties
- 1:09:24Speaker 6: TV show or those lame super Friends cartoons. Superman never
- 1:09:29Speaker 6: fought a super villain. He just fought like bank robbers
- 1:09:32Speaker 6: and street thugs and you know, stuff like that. And
- 1:09:35Speaker 6: finally he gets to go up against a super villain,
- 1:09:38Speaker 6: which I thought was the coolest thing ever. So I
- 1:09:42Speaker 6: I've got General Zod. As a matter of fact, I
- 1:09:43Speaker 6: go ahead and tell you General Zod was my next
- 1:09:46Speaker 6: pick on my list, So I've got him at number four.
- 1:09:50Speaker 6: I have to be careful though, when I watched this movie,
- 1:09:52Speaker 6: because my wife has a thing for Terrence Stamp as Zod.
- 1:09:59Speaker 6: You would think Lindsay, you would think that she was
- 1:10:01Speaker 6: looking at Tom Selleck.
- 1:10:04Speaker 2: Okay, now I understand.
- 1:10:07Speaker 6: And like if she walks by the room and he's
- 1:10:10Speaker 6: like nil before saw it, She's like, okay.
- 1:10:14Speaker 1: I'll tell I'll tell you that. One of the one
- 1:10:16Speaker 1: of the coolest moments of my life was a few
- 1:10:19Speaker 1: years back. We were living with Lindsay's mom because she
- 1:10:22Speaker 1: was sick, and I was flipping through channels and Superman
- 1:10:25Speaker 1: two just happened to be on and Emmy comes walking
- 1:10:28Speaker 1: into the room and just lays down on the bed
- 1:10:31Speaker 1: and was just absolutely fascinated with the movie. Now, we
- 1:10:34Speaker 1: didn't get to watch all of it because it was
- 1:10:36Speaker 1: getting close to her bedtime. But she was just absolutely enthralled,
- 1:10:39Speaker 1: which I thought was awesome because here she is watching
- 1:10:41Speaker 1: this movie from forty years old or almost forty years
- 1:10:45Speaker 1: old at the time and was just as enthralled as
- 1:10:47Speaker 1: a little girl as I was as a little boy.
- 1:10:49Speaker 1: So that was one of the That was one of
- 1:10:52Speaker 1: my happier moments in life. All right, lindsay, so we
- 1:10:55Speaker 1: I just did my number five. It's time for Dave's
- 1:10:58Speaker 1: number four, which was my number five, which was General's ad.
- 1:11:01Speaker 1: So then we're gonna move on to your number four.
- 1:11:03Speaker 3: Ooh, okay, my number four is ed Rooney from Ferris
- 1:11:10Speaker 3: Bueller's Dale.
- 1:11:12Speaker 21: So far this semester, he has been absent.
- 1:11:15Speaker 2: Nine times, nine times.
- 1:11:20Speaker 7: Nine times.
- 1:11:22Speaker 2: I don't remember him being sick nine times.
- 1:11:24Speaker 21: That's probably because he wasn't sick. He was skipping school.
- 1:11:30Speaker 21: Wake up and smell the coffee, missus Bueller. It's a
- 1:11:33Speaker 21: fool's paradise. He is just leading you down the primrose path.
- 1:11:37Speaker 2: I can't believe.
- 1:11:38Speaker 21: Oh, sure, you know I'd be happy to Yeah, you.
- 1:11:41Speaker 6: You just produce a corpse and I'll release Sloan.
- 1:11:46Speaker 21: I want to see this dead grandmother first.
- 1:11:48Speaker 22: Tend It's all right, Grace, it's Ferris Buellah, little torp.
- 1:11:53Speaker 22: I'm going to set a trap and let him fall
- 1:11:54Speaker 22: right into it.
- 1:11:59Speaker 3: Okay, why is he so obsessed with Ferris?
- 1:12:03Speaker 1: Oh my god, I got that answer for your question
- 1:12:05Speaker 1: right here, here we go.
- 1:12:06Speaker 7: I don't trust this kid any further than I can
- 1:12:10Speaker 7: throw him.
- 1:12:12Speaker 2: Well, with your bad need, you shouldn't throw anybody.
- 1:12:17Speaker 6: It's true.
- 1:12:19Speaker 21: What is so dangerous about a character like Ferris Bueller
- 1:12:22Speaker 21: is he gives good kids bad ideas.
- 1:12:25Speaker 2: Uh huh.
- 1:12:25Speaker 21: Last thing I need at this point in my career
- 1:12:27Speaker 21: is fifteen hundred Ferris Bueller disciples running around these halls.
- 1:12:32Speaker 22: He jeopardizes my ability to effectively govern this student body.
- 1:12:36Speaker 1: He makes you look like an asshid But.
- 1:12:39Speaker 3: He's driven by his ego here right, I mean that
- 1:12:42Speaker 3: is his ego is getting the best of him.
- 1:12:45Speaker 2: I mean he takes it so far.
- 1:12:46Speaker 3: He trespasses get to the Bueller property, He breaks into
- 1:12:52Speaker 3: their home, he destroys property, all just because he's trying
- 1:12:57Speaker 3: to catch Ferris Bueller lying and skipping school. He just
- 1:13:02Speaker 3: he just takes it too far. He's a funny villain,
- 1:13:06Speaker 3: but he's a villain.
- 1:13:07Speaker 1: Yes, Dave.
- 1:13:08Speaker 6: Yeah. So yeah, basically I'm gonna say the same thing.
- 1:13:12Speaker 6: So what makes him such a great villain for Farris
- 1:13:14Speaker 6: Bueller is that he clearly takes it so personally like
- 1:13:17Speaker 6: he is just specifically after Ferris. I mean, a principal
- 1:13:21Speaker 6: should have other things he needs to do during the day, right,
- 1:13:25Speaker 6: but no, he's gonna get Ferris. So and of course
- 1:13:29Speaker 6: it's another one of those the hero is the is
- 1:13:31Speaker 6: the rebel, and so you want him to be able
- 1:13:33Speaker 6: to play off of the authority figure. Jeff Johnson. I
- 1:13:36Speaker 6: think he's the actor here. He does a great job
- 1:13:38Speaker 6: with it or no, Jeffrey Jones is the name. Sorry
- 1:13:40Speaker 6: sorry Jeff, but and he nails it, does an awesome job.
- 1:13:46Speaker 9: You know.
- 1:13:47Speaker 6: It seems like a William Atherton role, to tell you
- 1:13:49Speaker 6: the truth. But Jones does a good job with it.
- 1:13:51Speaker 1: Yeah, he did a good job with that. And then
- 1:13:53Speaker 1: the next year with Howard the Duck, which was a
- 1:13:56Speaker 1: really weird movie.
- 1:13:57Speaker 6: Look, I really need to apologize that, Jeff john because
- 1:14:00Speaker 6: there's toff about Jeffrey Jones. I'm not going to talk
- 1:14:02Speaker 6: about Jeff. I don't mean it. I'm sorry.
- 1:14:05Speaker 1: So Ed Rooney as a teenager, I absolutely was on
- 1:14:13Speaker 1: Ferris's side, right, Ed Rooney was the spoiled he was.
- 1:14:16Speaker 1: He took it personally, he is. He's a funny character
- 1:14:20Speaker 1: for sure. But yeah, he does trespass, he does break
- 1:14:22Speaker 1: and enter. He does get his butt kicked by baby
- 1:14:26Speaker 1: before she goes in dirty dances.
- 1:14:28Speaker 9: Huh.
- 1:14:30Speaker 1: But as an adult who deals with a lot of
- 1:14:34Speaker 1: unruly teenagers, I am now on Ed Rooney's side.
- 1:14:37Speaker 2: No, I don't need.
- 1:14:38Speaker 1: Sixteen hundred Ferris Bueller disciples running around and creating havoc
- 1:14:43Speaker 1: at school or on the baseball team, or at church
- 1:14:46Speaker 1: or whatever. Ed Rooney, I got your back.
- 1:14:50Speaker 3: Oh No, I don't now that I'll ever look at
- 1:14:53Speaker 3: you the same again.
- 1:14:55Speaker 1: All right? My number four is I'm just gonna say
- 1:15:01Speaker 1: it is from nineteen eighty eight. It's Hans Gruber from
- 1:15:05Speaker 1: die Hard.
- 1:15:07Speaker 4: When Alexander saw the breadth of his domain, he wept,
- 1:15:12Speaker 4: for there were no more worlds to conquer. Benefits of
- 1:15:20Speaker 4: a classical education for them again, and give me my detonators.
- 1:15:36Speaker 5: Where that.
- 1:15:38Speaker 6: Talk to me? Where am I detonators?
- 1:15:41Speaker 2: Where are they?
- 1:15:42Speaker 4: Or shall I shoot another one?
- 1:15:54Speaker 1: We had never seen a bad guy that was so
- 1:15:58Speaker 1: brilliant and so prepared for a situation and had his
- 1:16:03Speaker 1: team of Hinchman just take over Knaka Tommy Plaza and
- 1:16:09Speaker 1: really just get foiled by John McClain. But boy, he
- 1:16:12Speaker 1: had a perfect plan that was only foiled by one thing.
- 1:16:15Speaker 1: And let me just say that this was a brilliant
- 1:16:21Speaker 1: performance by a first time actor and the only thing
- 1:16:27Speaker 1: that I can compare it to was Edward Norton in
- 1:16:32Speaker 1: Primal Fear for his first movie, where it was just like, Wow,
- 1:16:37Speaker 1: this guy should probably win an Oscar for Best Supporting Actor.
- 1:16:43Speaker 1: He was just just genius and fantastic bad guy, very intelligent,
- 1:16:50Speaker 1: very educated and knew what he needed to do.
- 1:16:56Speaker 2: Yeah, we lost him too soon.
- 1:16:57Speaker 3: I don't really have much to add about the character
- 1:16:59Speaker 3: but that the actor was phenomenal and he's been gone now,
- 1:17:04Speaker 3: been gone, yeah, like maybe nine years. It's it's been
- 1:17:06Speaker 3: longer than you would think.
- 1:17:08Speaker 2: And that's sad.
- 1:17:09Speaker 1: Rest in peace, Alan Rickman.
- 1:17:10Speaker 6: Yeah, absolutely incredible performance by Alan Rieman. Easily top two
- 1:17:16Speaker 6: movie of the decade for me. It's right there neck
- 1:17:19Speaker 6: and neck with Waider's The Lost Art for my favorite
- 1:17:21Speaker 6: movie of the eighties. And what an incredible performance. You
- 1:17:26Speaker 6: gotta love Hans Kruber as a villain, And You're absolutely right.
- 1:17:29Speaker 6: He was smart and that's what made the movie. That's
- 1:17:33Speaker 6: what made him so formidable, was seeing how well planned
- 1:17:38Speaker 6: his whole scheme was, and it just looked like they
- 1:17:42Speaker 6: had every detailed nailed down. They were going with military precision.
- 1:17:45Speaker 6: There was just no way they were gonna be able
- 1:17:47Speaker 6: to get beat. And he just played it ice cold.
- 1:17:50Speaker 3: He was.
- 1:17:51Speaker 6: He was just incredible. I mean, what a debut performance.
- 1:17:54Speaker 6: So I'll tell you I have Hans Gruber at number
- 1:17:57Speaker 6: two on my list.
- 1:17:58Speaker 1: Oh wow, Okay, we have another crossover, Dave. We are
- 1:18:05Speaker 1: we have made it to the top three. My three
- 1:18:09Speaker 1: and my one have been taken. I have a feeling
- 1:18:13Speaker 1: my two is going to be taken by you, either
- 1:18:16Speaker 1: here or on your number two. Maybe your number one,
- 1:18:20Speaker 1: I don't know. We'll see who is your number three.
- 1:18:24Speaker 6: My number three is well, I'm saying I'll know how
- 1:18:29Speaker 6: to build this one up. The iconic villain of the
- 1:18:33Speaker 6: Star Trek movie series, I have to go with Ricardo
- 1:18:36Speaker 6: Multiban as can.
- 1:18:42Speaker 5: I shall leave you as you'll left me as you
- 1:18:46Speaker 5: left her, my own for all eternity in the center of.
- 1:18:51Speaker 6: The dead planet.
- 1:18:54Speaker 22: Married a line, married a line.
- 1:19:10Speaker 1: I love the echo there of your boy Bill Shatner,
- 1:19:15Speaker 1: your grandpa Bill, is you like to call screaming Con? Dave?
- 1:19:21Speaker 1: Tell us why you picked Con as your number three?
- 1:19:25Speaker 6: I mean goodness, consensus pick is the best Star Trek
- 1:19:29Speaker 6: movie ever. Right, that's still to this day. We the
- 1:19:36Speaker 6: series stayed alive through the seventies thanks to his fans.
- 1:19:39Speaker 6: We finally got a movie that reunited everybody. In the
- 1:19:41Speaker 6: late seventies, it largely disappointed. It was it was novel
- 1:19:45Speaker 6: to see the cast back together, but the story was
- 1:19:48Speaker 6: kind of lacking. The pace was kind of lacking. To
- 1:19:50Speaker 6: hand it over to new director Nicholas Meyer, and he
- 1:19:55Speaker 6: not only like gives it more action, more of a pace.
- 1:19:59Speaker 6: He to reimagine Starfleet as a navy right. This is
- 1:20:03Speaker 6: essentially a submarine movie that takes place in outer space.
- 1:20:07Speaker 6: But he did the brilliant thing of digging back to
- 1:20:09Speaker 6: the original series in the sixties, finding a villain from
- 1:20:12Speaker 6: an episode that he could bring back. And that's exactly
- 1:20:16Speaker 6: what happens. So we tied this all the way back
- 1:20:18Speaker 6: into the original series and Ricardo Montlebond in the role
- 1:20:22Speaker 6: of a lifetime, absolutely chewing up every single scene that
- 1:20:27Speaker 6: he is in the ultimate foil to Captain Kirk, the
- 1:20:32Speaker 6: perfect Star Trek villain you can you can't miss with kN.
- 1:20:38Speaker 1: So my dad was a Star Trek fan. I know
- 1:20:41Speaker 1: he watched it a lot when I was little, in
- 1:20:44Speaker 1: syndication and such. I was never a big fan. I
- 1:20:48Speaker 1: did have for some reason. I did have the Star
- 1:20:50Speaker 1: Trek Original Motion Picture lunch box when I went to
- 1:20:54Speaker 1: like first grade, but I am so I am not
- 1:20:58Speaker 1: a Star Trek fan at all. However, I will say
- 1:21:01Speaker 1: I loved Star Trek two. It was to me more
- 1:21:05Speaker 1: like Star Wars than Star Trek, and so I absolutely
- 1:21:09Speaker 1: loved it. I remember being sad when Spock dies at
- 1:21:13Speaker 1: the end, because he was one of those iconic characters that,
- 1:21:15Speaker 1: even though I didn't really watch it, I knew who
- 1:21:18Speaker 1: he was. I remember being sad. And Ricardo Montaban I
- 1:21:21Speaker 1: could not believe that the guy from Fantasy Island was
- 1:21:24Speaker 1: a such a bad guy. And b had an Arnold
- 1:21:28Speaker 1: Schwarzenegger type chest which was clearly fake. But when I
- 1:21:33Speaker 1: was eight years old, I did not know that.
- 1:21:39Speaker 6: I look at that chest now and I think of
- 1:21:42Speaker 6: where Al in his Rambo suits.
- 1:21:47Speaker 3: I don't know anything about Star Trek other than William Shatner.
- 1:21:51Speaker 1: So I love William. I love you some William Shatner. Yes,
- 1:21:54Speaker 1: all right, Lens, go ahead and give us your number three.
- 1:21:57Speaker 3: My number three again is Fiftannon from Back to the Future,
- 1:22:02Speaker 3: and we've talked about him.
- 1:22:03Speaker 1: Okay, so that was your number three. That was also
- 1:22:05Speaker 1: my number three. So now Dave you get to go
- 1:22:10Speaker 1: back to back here you're too.
- 1:22:12Speaker 6: My number two is Hans Gruber, so pass the mic.
- 1:22:15Speaker 1: Okay. So then Lindsey, it is your turn for your
- 1:22:19Speaker 1: number two.
- 1:22:19Speaker 2: We're putting it back and forth here. Okay.
- 1:22:22Speaker 3: My number two is Richard Vernon from nineteen eighty five
- 1:22:28Speaker 3: to the Breakfast Club.
- 1:22:32Speaker 7: Well, well here we are.
- 1:22:36Speaker 9: I want to congratulate you from being on time. It
- 1:22:41Speaker 9: is now seven oh six. You have exactly eight hours
- 1:22:46Speaker 9: and fifty four minutes to think about why you're here,
- 1:22:49Speaker 9: ponder the error of your ways.
- 1:22:54Speaker 7: And you may not talk, will not move from these seats, and.
- 1:23:04Speaker 5: You will not sleep.
- 1:23:12Speaker 9: All right, people were going to try something a little
- 1:23:14Speaker 9: different today.
- 1:23:16Speaker 7: Sit down, Johnson, Thank you, sir. My office is right
- 1:23:22Speaker 7: across that hall. Any monkey business is ill advised. Any questions, Yeah,
- 1:23:30Speaker 7: I got a question. Does Barry Man alone know that
- 1:23:34Speaker 7: you rate his wardrobe.
- 1:23:35Speaker 9: Give you the answer to that question, mister bender. Next Saturday,
- 1:23:41Speaker 9: we'll mess with the bull young man. You'll get the horns.
- 1:23:45Speaker 2: He just gives me the X.
- 1:23:47Speaker 3: So what he claims his issues are with the students,
- 1:23:53Speaker 3: it's really his flaws, his character flaws, which is the sign.
- 1:23:56Speaker 2: Of a narcissist.
- 1:23:57Speaker 1: He's projecting.
- 1:23:58Speaker 2: He's projecting, and that's what in our does.
- 1:24:01Speaker 3: So when you think about because he says they've got
- 1:24:04Speaker 3: bad attitudes, they're disrespectful, they're selfish, they're lazy, he's describing
- 1:24:09Speaker 3: himself and he just gives me the X. But then
- 1:24:14Speaker 3: also his willingness to go real quickly to physical.
- 1:24:19Speaker 2: Violence with a student.
- 1:24:20Speaker 1: He's a teacher on Yeah, he was certainly the foil
- 1:24:25Speaker 1: for kids that found themselves there, some of them good kids,
- 1:24:30Speaker 1: one of them a really bad kid, but with obviously
- 1:24:32Speaker 1: with a troubled childhood, and rather than trying to take
- 1:24:35Speaker 1: the time to get to know them and figure out
- 1:24:39Speaker 1: what the problem is, he just comes in laying the
- 1:24:41Speaker 1: hammer down.
- 1:24:43Speaker 2: Why is he a teacher? Why doesn't he just go
- 1:24:45Speaker 2: sell used cars?
- 1:24:47Speaker 1: Maybe? Do you think that guy could sell used cars?
- 1:24:53Speaker 6: Probably not so, lindsay, how many on your list are
- 1:24:56Speaker 6: like sitt in high school. I feel like there's several there.
- 1:24:59Speaker 3: Were, Yeah, there were, for sure, But you know what,
- 1:25:02Speaker 3: there was something about the eighties.
- 1:25:04Speaker 2: I think that we had a lot of high school movies.
- 1:25:07Speaker 1: Yeah we did, We did, for sure. All right, So
- 1:25:11Speaker 1: that was your number two. My number two is from
- 1:25:20Speaker 1: two different movies in the nineteen eighties, nineteen eighty and
- 1:25:25Speaker 1: then again in nineteen eighty three. He reprised the role,
- 1:25:30Speaker 1: and that is the baddest man in the galaxy, Darth Vader.
- 1:25:37Speaker 1: It is useless to resist.
- 1:25:41Speaker 6: Don't let yourself be destroyed as all be wanted. There
- 1:25:48Speaker 6: is no escape.
- 1:25:50Speaker 24: Don't make me destroy you. Join me, and I will compete.
- 1:25:55Speaker 24: Your training with all combined strength can end this destructing
- 1:26:01Speaker 24: conflict and bring order to the galaxy.
- 1:26:05Speaker 6: I'll never join you.
- 1:26:07Speaker 24: If you only knew the power of the dark side
- 1:26:12Speaker 24: will be woe.
- 1:26:13Speaker 1: Never told you what happened to your father.
- 1:26:16Speaker 2: He told me enough, He told me you killed No I.
- 1:26:24Speaker 7: Do your father.
- 1:26:33Speaker 1: I love the I am your father, and then the
- 1:26:44Speaker 1: so Dave, I'm assuming this is your number one.
- 1:26:49Speaker 6: My number one, absolutely the very first villain that popped
- 1:26:52Speaker 6: into my head for the eighties.
- 1:26:54Speaker 1: Yes, and I saw star Wars in the driving many, many,
- 1:26:58Speaker 1: many times, because as I mentioned, my parents were divorced.
- 1:27:02Speaker 1: After the divorce, my mom went out on a lot
- 1:27:04Speaker 1: of dates, usually with me in tow and which I
- 1:27:08Speaker 1: don't understand because I lived with my dad, So I'm
- 1:27:10Speaker 1: not sure how I ended up with her out on
- 1:27:13Speaker 1: dates but one, yeah, exactly, but a lot of drive ins,
- 1:27:19Speaker 1: and so I think I went to the drive in
- 1:27:21Speaker 1: and saw Star Wars probably about nineteen seventy eight, And
- 1:27:25Speaker 1: then anytime she went back to the drive in to
- 1:27:29Speaker 1: see another movie, Star Wars is playing on some screen
- 1:27:33Speaker 1: and that's where my attention was. So as a little
- 1:27:36Speaker 1: four or five six year old, I absolutely loved Star Wars.
- 1:27:41Speaker 1: Was fascinated by it had all the action figures, all
- 1:27:43Speaker 1: that stuff. But then nineteen eighty rolls around, and not
- 1:27:47Speaker 1: on a date, my mom takes me to an actual
- 1:27:50Speaker 1: theater to see Empire Strikes Back, and that's when we
- 1:27:55Speaker 1: get the reveal that Darth Vader is actually Luke Skywalker's father.
- 1:28:01Speaker 1: And I was I mean I was six, right, so
- 1:28:04Speaker 1: didn't understand a whole lot, but was still blown away.
- 1:28:07Speaker 1: How could this bad guy be the father of our hero?
- 1:28:13Speaker 6: Yeah, so I was born in seventy one. I absolutely
- 1:28:17Speaker 6: saw the first movie in the theaters. But what I've
- 1:28:20Speaker 6: been able to figure out through detective work once I
- 1:28:22Speaker 6: got older, I don't think I saw it in seventy seven.
- 1:28:25Speaker 6: They actually re released it. You know, the days prior
- 1:28:27Speaker 6: to VCRs and home video, hit movies would come out
- 1:28:31Speaker 6: several years in a row. So I believe I saw
- 1:28:34Speaker 6: it in nineteen seventy eight in the theater. My dad
- 1:28:36Speaker 6: had seen it in seventy seven, took me to see it.
- 1:28:39Speaker 6: I was seven years old. Our introduction, the world's introduction
- 1:28:42Speaker 6: Darth Vader when he comes busting through that wall right
- 1:28:44Speaker 6: when they're boarding the Rebel Cruiser, I mean, quite an
- 1:28:50Speaker 6: impression on seven year old David. Darth Vader has always
- 1:28:53Speaker 6: been the ultimate bad guy. I'm nine years old seeing
- 1:28:56Speaker 6: the Empire strikes back. That's where like, to me, strikes
- 1:29:00Speaker 6: back is the zero event for movies. Like everything's either
- 1:29:03Speaker 6: pre empire or post empire when it comes to Hollywood movies.
- 1:29:07Speaker 6: So I'm nine years old and Vader claims to be
- 1:29:10Speaker 6: Luke Skywalker's father. Now the playground was split right down
- 1:29:14Speaker 6: the middle on if he was telling the truth or not.
- 1:29:17Speaker 6: Half the kids were like, can you believe he's the dad?
- 1:29:19Speaker 6: And I'm like, he's the bad guy. He's lying, bad guys. Lie,
- 1:29:24Speaker 6: there's no way he's the dad. And this debate raised
- 1:29:27Speaker 6: for three years. Don't think about it. Three years. I'm nine.
- 1:29:30Speaker 6: Jedi doesn't come out un till I'm twelve. That is
- 1:29:33Speaker 6: a quarter of my life. Like three years was a
- 1:29:36Speaker 6: long time for a nine year old, and so we
- 1:29:40Speaker 6: were just this debate was never ending. Nineteen eighty three,
- 1:29:44Speaker 6: the movie's coming out, my dad and I go see
- 1:29:47Speaker 6: it on opening night. It's one of my great memories
- 1:29:50Speaker 6: of my dad. I remember clearly the theater lobby be impact.
- 1:29:54Speaker 6: We were in a long line, there were people in costumes.
- 1:29:57Speaker 6: Everybody was wanting to find out if was the dad
- 1:30:00Speaker 6: and how all this was going to end. Man that
- 1:30:03Speaker 6: I was the Star Wars Action figure generation. This was
- 1:30:07Speaker 6: my childhood. So there is no way anybody was going
- 1:30:11Speaker 6: to be number one except Darth Vader.
- 1:30:13Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'll get to why he's number two for
- 1:30:18Speaker 1: me when as we wrap up. But Lindsey thoughts on
- 1:30:21Speaker 1: Darth Vader.
- 1:30:22Speaker 3: I think that he not only is deserves that number
- 1:30:26Speaker 3: one spot here on our list, he might be the
- 1:30:28Speaker 3: best villain of all time.
- 1:30:29Speaker 1: Yeah, he just maybe he just may be the best
- 1:30:32Speaker 1: villain of all time.
- 1:30:33Speaker 6: And how much that is James Earl Jones's voice.
- 1:30:36Speaker 1: It's I mean, not one, but it's the majority of
- 1:30:41Speaker 1: it for sure.
- 1:30:42Speaker 6: Man, so good.
- 1:30:45Speaker 1: So I think we've all had our number ones then claimed, right, Dave,
- 1:30:49Speaker 1: because your number one was Darth Vader.
- 1:30:51Speaker 6: That's right.
- 1:30:52Speaker 1: My number one was the Joker, and your number one
- 1:30:55Speaker 1: was the Word the Fortellies. Right, So we've made it
- 1:30:58Speaker 1: through our top ten. That's pretty cool, Sonna. I'm gonna
- 1:31:01Speaker 1: explain the reason why I put the Joker above. Darth
- 1:31:04Speaker 1: Vader is my number one. It's not because he's more iconic.
- 1:31:08Speaker 1: I tried to find a balance between iconic and just
- 1:31:12Speaker 1: pure evil and pure bad. And Darth Vader does redeem
- 1:31:17Speaker 1: himself at the end when he does save Luke from
- 1:31:20Speaker 1: the Emperor. He could have just let the Emperor Palpatine
- 1:31:24Speaker 1: kill Luke and then go on to rule the galaxy
- 1:31:27Speaker 1: with the Emperor. But there is just a tiny bit
- 1:31:30Speaker 1: of good left in him. The dark side didn't consume
- 1:31:33Speaker 1: him fully even though we thought it did, and so
- 1:31:36Speaker 1: he redeemed himself. Therefore, that's why I bumped him to
- 1:31:39Speaker 1: number two, but certainly he is probably the best villain
- 1:31:43Speaker 1: and the most iconic villain probably of all time, if
- 1:31:47Speaker 1: not for sure the eighties. All right, So with that
- 1:31:53Speaker 1: being said, who did you find it?
- 1:31:57Speaker 7: Did?
- 1:31:58Speaker 1: Did anybody find it difficult to leave off an anybody?
- 1:32:04Speaker 1: Any honorable mentions? Lindsay, did you have any honorable mentions?
- 1:32:07Speaker 1: Or was it pretty easy for you to come up
- 1:32:08Speaker 1: with the straight top ten?
- 1:32:10Speaker 3: So so, yeah, I left somebody off that I shouldn't
- 1:32:14Speaker 3: have left off. And I'm trying to look up his
- 1:32:17Speaker 3: name right now and I can't find his name. But
- 1:32:20Speaker 3: John Lithgow's character in Footloose you should have been on
- 1:32:24Speaker 3: my list. I know he was the preacher, but I can't,
- 1:32:27Speaker 3: for the life of me, figure out what his name was.
- 1:32:29Speaker 1: So this is what's funny. So we have a very
- 1:32:31Speaker 1: loyal listener from my hometown of Saint Louis, Missouri. Call
- 1:32:37Speaker 1: him Pastor Pete because he is a pastor, but he
- 1:32:39Speaker 1: also runs the Twitter feed nineteen eighty five Heck of
- 1:32:43Speaker 1: a Year about the nineteen eighty five Cardinals. And he
- 1:32:48Speaker 1: was dming me one Saturday as he was catching up
- 1:32:51Speaker 1: on some of our episodes, and he said, I know
- 1:32:54Speaker 1: you never watched Footloose because you don't watch movies about dancing,
- 1:32:57Speaker 1: But I just want to say I just rewatched it recently,
- 1:33:01Speaker 1: and my view from when I watched it as a
- 1:33:04Speaker 1: kid to now has changed, considering that I have a
- 1:33:08Speaker 1: sixteen or a seventeen year old daughter or teenage daughter whatever,
- 1:33:13Speaker 1: you know. At first I went from the pastor being
- 1:33:16Speaker 1: mean and kind of the bad guy to kind of
- 1:33:19Speaker 1: maybe agreeing with him a little.
- 1:33:20Speaker 2: Bit, so he was Reverend Shaw Moore.
- 1:33:24Speaker 1: Yes, So I thought that was funny that, you know,
- 1:33:27Speaker 1: how our views changed as we get older.
- 1:33:29Speaker 6: Absolutely, I think it happens with Back to the Future
- 1:33:33Speaker 6: and Dirty Dancing. We've looked at things a little bit
- 1:33:35Speaker 6: differently and Breakfast Club an Farris Peeler. I mean, as
- 1:33:39Speaker 6: you get older, your perspective can gene that's for sure.
- 1:33:41Speaker 3: Absolutely, Footloose was another movie from nineteen eighty four.
- 1:33:44Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's don't forget to point that out.
- 1:33:47Speaker 6: Dave.
- 1:33:47Speaker 1: Did you have any honorable mentions or was it easy
- 1:33:49Speaker 1: for you to get your top ten?
- 1:33:51Speaker 6: It was pretty easy for me to get top ten.
- 1:33:54Speaker 6: The one that almost made it was Johnny Lawrence, but
- 1:33:57Speaker 6: I figured I would leave that debate alone, so Freddy
- 1:34:00Speaker 6: Krueger got thenad in above him. But I think you
- 1:34:03Speaker 6: can also just kind of in general just say Russians. Yeah,
- 1:34:07Speaker 6: and you know that kind of covers half the movies
- 1:34:10Speaker 6: of the eighties, you know, or Communists. Okay, so that
- 1:34:13Speaker 6: way you get all of the Vietnam and Rainbow movies,
- 1:34:17Speaker 6: and you get the Cubans invading Us at Red Dawn
- 1:34:20Speaker 6: and all the other Russians that. Yeah, so I'll just
- 1:34:24Speaker 6: say communists in general for this communism.
- 1:34:27Speaker 1: So you could say communism, or you could say Nazism
- 1:34:29Speaker 1: with the Raiders.
- 1:34:31Speaker 6: Raiders and Last Crusade, right, so I did have a
- 1:34:36Speaker 6: little bit different, by the way, and also the Illinois
- 1:34:38Speaker 6: Nazis from the Blues Brothers.
- 1:34:40Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, so I mentioned Ming the Merciless got cut
- 1:34:46Speaker 1: at the very end, so I could add Aguapo the Terminator.
- 1:34:50Speaker 1: I had him, but he didn't make the list. At
- 1:34:52Speaker 1: Rooney was also one of my honorable mentions. And then
- 1:34:55Speaker 1: three that we didn't mention. The Duke of New York
- 1:34:58Speaker 1: from Escape from New York played Isaac Hayes. I considered him, yes,
- 1:35:03Speaker 1: in two baseball movies because you know I love baseball.
- 1:35:07Speaker 1: Judge Banner from the natural, the owner who was trying
- 1:35:10Speaker 1: to make his team lose so he could swindle the
- 1:35:13Speaker 1: other half of the team away from Quaker Oats diabetes,
- 1:35:18Speaker 1: Wilfrid Brimley.
- 1:35:19Speaker 6: What year was there, Jill?
- 1:35:21Speaker 1: That was nineteen eighty four.
- 1:35:22Speaker 6: Oh okay, thank you.
- 1:35:23Speaker 1: And then also another owner of a baseball movie, Rachel
- 1:35:29Speaker 1: Phelps in nineteen eighty eight's Major League because she wanted
- 1:35:33Speaker 1: the team to be so rotten that attendance would be
- 1:35:35Speaker 1: so low that she could move her team to Miami,
- 1:35:38Speaker 1: which would have been disastrous, as we've seen the Marlins
- 1:35:40Speaker 1: not be able to draw flies and they've won two
- 1:35:43Speaker 1: World Series. So those were my honorable mentions that didn't
- 1:35:48Speaker 1: quite mate.
- 1:35:49Speaker 6: I'm going to nitpicky there a little bit, just because
- 1:35:51Speaker 6: I know you're triggering Jason Colvin right now. But Major
- 1:35:55Speaker 6: League was nineteen eighty nine?
- 1:35:56Speaker 1: Was it eighty nine?
- 1:35:57Speaker 6: Yeah?
- 1:35:58Speaker 1: I do that all the time. Eighty nine run together
- 1:36:01Speaker 1: for me, So there you go.
- 1:36:04Speaker 6: Okay.
- 1:36:05Speaker 1: I think we got a pretty comprehensive list of it.
- 1:36:07Speaker 2: I think we did pretty good.
- 1:36:08Speaker 3: My list definitely is very different from y'all's, but that's okay.
- 1:36:13Speaker 6: Hey, if we make a watch list of these movies
- 1:36:16Speaker 6: that are that are represented by these villains. I'm having
- 1:36:18Speaker 6: a good day. That's a good movie marathon for me.
- 1:36:21Speaker 1: Absolutely, yeah, No, I don't have a problem with your list.
- 1:36:23Speaker 1: I knew it was going to be different, and that's fine.
- 1:36:25Speaker 1: I'm nothing wrong with that. I liked it so and
- 1:36:28Speaker 1: the Francis thing cracked me up. We're here at the
- 1:36:31Speaker 1: end of the show, so you know what I gotta do, right,
- 1:36:32Speaker 1: I know, not a louch. Here's our final stance, Dave.
- 1:36:38Speaker 1: We have five movies from nineteen eighty four and nineteen
- 1:36:41Speaker 1: eighty five. We have three from eighty six, two from
- 1:36:45Speaker 1: eighty eighty two, eighty seven, and eighty nine, and one
- 1:36:48Speaker 1: each from eighty one and eighty eight. Eighty three does
- 1:36:52Speaker 1: get represented because we have Darth Vader in eighty and
- 1:36:55Speaker 1: eighty three as well. Darth Vader and Biff Tannin are
- 1:37:01Speaker 1: the only ones that got us more than one movie.
- 1:37:05Speaker 1: They were in two movies each, or three if you
- 1:37:07Speaker 1: want to count nineteen eighty ten for Back to the
- 1:37:10Speaker 1: Future three, so we've got a really good representation of
- 1:37:13Speaker 1: the decade here. We also have four aliens, two Boxers,
- 1:37:19Speaker 1: two school administrators, two time travelers, a Mexican, a West German,
- 1:37:24Speaker 1: a Russian, a karate champion, and a statutory rapist.
- 1:37:29Speaker 6: Well, listen, I hate to be this guy, but I'm
- 1:37:31Speaker 6: gonna pick you one more time. We actually get Johnny
- 1:37:34Speaker 6: Lawrence twice. He's in the opening scene of Credi Kid
- 1:37:37Speaker 6: two from nineteen eighty six.
- 1:37:39Speaker 1: Yeah right, right, though, yeah, he was more you kind
- 1:37:45Speaker 1: of felt sorry for him at that point.
- 1:37:46Speaker 6: Okay, yes, he makes an appearance.
- 1:37:48Speaker 1: He was a right boy. And then the real villain
- 1:37:51Speaker 1: of the Cobra Kai Kris is trying to choke him out.
- 1:37:54Speaker 6: Hey, you're right, he's not the villain of Tardi Kid two,
- 1:37:56Speaker 6: but he does make an appearance.
- 1:37:58Speaker 1: We also, I forget to mention, we also had a
- 1:38:00Speaker 1: burnt up dead dude who visits you in your dreams?
- 1:38:03Speaker 1: And where's the sweater in the summer? Well, if you
- 1:38:08Speaker 1: liked our list, great, let us know how we did,
- 1:38:10Speaker 1: and if we miss something, let us know. I'll tell
- 1:38:13Speaker 1: you what. I put this out on Twitter yesterday and
- 1:38:18Speaker 1: we got fantastic responses. So yeah, I love the responses
- 1:38:22Speaker 1: that we got. It was. It was wonderful, So very
- 1:38:25Speaker 1: happy about that. Hopefully they'll like this show and then
- 1:38:28Speaker 1: let us know what we missed Dave. We want to
- 1:38:30Speaker 1: thank you once again. Let's plug Apples and Oranges. Even
- 1:38:34Speaker 1: though that was a limited series podcast, it's still out there.
- 1:38:37Speaker 1: People can listen to it. Tell us what it's about.
- 1:38:40Speaker 6: Yeah, So, Apples and Artist ran for about seven months
- 1:38:43Speaker 6: last year and it has proven to have a really
- 1:38:44Speaker 6: good shelf life. I think it's something that will always
- 1:38:48Speaker 6: be relevant. But it is Beatles versus Beach Boys. We
- 1:38:52Speaker 6: stepped through the decade of the sixties and we matched
- 1:38:55Speaker 6: albums from each band up against each other in a
- 1:38:57Speaker 6: series of one v one matchups, and I think by
- 1:39:01Speaker 6: doing it the way we did, we kind of hang
- 1:39:04Speaker 6: a light on how the trajectories of the two bands
- 1:39:08Speaker 6: were parallel throughout the decade. Like they start out with
- 1:39:10Speaker 6: the simple radio hits, they both increase in their depth
- 1:39:14Speaker 6: and complexity, pushing the limits of pop music, and then
- 1:39:18Speaker 6: they both step down and bring it back to basics
- 1:39:20Speaker 6: and simplified before the decade's over. There's a similar path,
- 1:39:23Speaker 6: but there's a lot of comparison points between the two bands,
- 1:39:25Speaker 6: and we just had a lot of fun. I did
- 1:39:27Speaker 6: that with my son, who was eighteen years old at
- 1:39:28Speaker 6: the time, and he is a musician and brought a
- 1:39:31Speaker 6: lot of music insight to it that I couldn't anyway.
- 1:39:36Speaker 6: Apples and Oranges. Beatles Versus Beach Boys is on all
- 1:39:39Speaker 6: the major podcast platforms and it's really a lot of
- 1:39:43Speaker 6: fun and we both learned a lot doing that series.
- 1:39:47Speaker 6: If you don't mind, I'd also like to plug my
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