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ITB: Eagles 2026 Training Camp Primer: Burning Questions On Offense · Inside the Birds: A Philadelphia Eagles Podcast

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Speaker 1: Inside the Birds is back.
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Speaker 2: What's going on?
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Speaker 3: Everybody is Jeff Mosher, It's Adam Kaplan and I want
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Speaker 3: to welcome all of our Inside the Birds listeners to
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Speaker 3: season nine. We have officially turned the page. Adam, I
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Speaker 3: don't know, it's hard for you to believe that we
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Speaker 3: are now entering year nine of its given where we started.
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Speaker 3: We should do one of those Internet memes like where
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Speaker 3: it started, Where it's going?
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Speaker 1: Where it is?
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Speaker 3: Because we look different than when we started this thing
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Speaker 3: nine years Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Down about forty five pounds, a lot of gray hair.
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Speaker 1: You know, yeah, less, way more grace.
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Speaker 2: That's yeah, exactly for us.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, No, it's awesome, man, this is great. I'm really
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Speaker 3: excited about what we have it. It's only you know,
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Speaker 3: it's still here July, so when we talk about the
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Speaker 3: actual regular season, get into all the programming later, much.
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Speaker 1: Much later in August as we get into the regular season.
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Speaker 1: But it is season nine of Inside the Birds. We
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Speaker 1: do this every year. We turn the page that.
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Speaker 3: First week because the Eagles will finally report to training
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Speaker 3: camp this week. Tuesday is the report date. Wednesday is
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Speaker 3: the first practice, and away we go. There'll be a
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Speaker 3: ramp up period we discussed that and then pretty soon
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Speaker 3: who knows when the pads will come out, and then
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Speaker 3: we'll really get into it. So what we like to
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Speaker 3: do before we this is gonna be a two part
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Speaker 3: podcast series. It's a two part training camp primer. We're
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Speaker 3: gonna go through the major questions, issues, storylines concerning the
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Speaker 3: Eagles going into camp on offense, and then on Tuesday
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Speaker 3: we'll do that for defense and throw special teams in
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Speaker 3: there if.
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Speaker 1: Need be, and then away we go.
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Speaker 3: We'll have camp reports later in the week from Adam
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Speaker 3: and Andrew Decheco will be there and it'll be a
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Speaker 3: fantastic week of actual football I'm talking about. But Adam
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Speaker 3: is we always like to say we get We do
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Speaker 3: this every year, and I think it's really important, all right,
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Speaker 3: It's an important remind people to be very understanding and
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Speaker 3: cautious of what happens in training camp. Don't overreact, don't underreact.
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Speaker 3: It's just training camp. There's great information and great football talk.
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Speaker 3: But if I were to choose an example from just
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Speaker 3: from last year, you know, Darius Cooper was one of
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Speaker 3: the most impressive storylines and one of the most impressive
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Speaker 3: players in camp. He made a very little impact as
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Speaker 3: a rookie, right, so like you gotta put everything in perspective.
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Speaker 2: Right, But now again he was an untry after Freegan.
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Speaker 2: We knew who wasn't gonna play much if he made
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Speaker 2: it like that was not even worth discussion people.
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Speaker 1: I kind of get in on that, and this guy
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Speaker 1: is lightening it up and on.
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Speaker 2: Right, But but the story was it was cool like
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Speaker 2: reblanket Ship. You wanted to go to start early good
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Speaker 2: point and we made there were two players we made
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Speaker 2: calls on earlier on dreted pH Asians, what's the TJ Edwards?
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Speaker 2: So that that one I didn't see happening. It was
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Speaker 2: Reblanketship of twenty two. We were positive he's making it
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Speaker 2: early in August, and then middle of August we're we're
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Speaker 2: we were like, Cooper's making it. There's no I don't
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Speaker 2: care who's healthy or not. He's making it because the
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Speaker 2: word got out on him and they were not gonna
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Speaker 2: be able to speak him through waivers. I talk to
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Speaker 2: other teams about him. They know about him. Although it's
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Speaker 2: funny they knew about him that he was on their
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Speaker 2: list because every team has every any player who could
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Speaker 2: be signed as an unentred free agent. I don't care
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Speaker 2: how small a school of Tartston Stadius. They're gonna have
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Speaker 2: a name. They're gonna have his name on a list.
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Speaker 2: But I find it hard to believe Eagles we have
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Speaker 2: been higher on him than other clubs were The Eagles just
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Speaker 2: had whoever the scout was did a phenomenalon. It might
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Speaker 2: have been Camp Bradfield, but he was Southwest. Yeah, but
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Speaker 2: they get the news clips, they see what the reporter's
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Speaker 2: rite or put they what being put on Twitter. As
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Speaker 2: you were talking about, it's one thing. Guy's a great practice.
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Speaker 2: Cooper brought it like every day, and they're just how
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Speaker 2: he's not gonna He's just not going to risk that.
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Speaker 2: He's a very good history of Okay, you know what,
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Speaker 2: this is real. This is not two or three practices
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Speaker 2: were one. This is all Camp. I'm not we're not
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Speaker 2: cutting We're not gonna expose him.
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Speaker 3: That's right, right, right, And by the way, don't don't
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Speaker 3: sell off short my friend.
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Speaker 1: We were on T. J. Edwards, we had good intel
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Speaker 1: on him as well.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, but I didn't think he was gonna. I didn't know.
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Speaker 3: We did some pods saying you really got to remember
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Speaker 3: they were razor thin imbacker. So we had some good TJ.
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Speaker 3: Edwards intel.
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Speaker 2: But the problem I had with him was I felt like,
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Speaker 2: I know you had you would have put you you
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Speaker 2: had already lost weight. I know you put that on
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Speaker 2: a show one time. I hadn't seen it anywhere, but
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Speaker 2: I skeptical because he just couldn't cover. Yeah, it's one
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Speaker 2: thing to make the team. How's he ever going to
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Speaker 2: get in the field. I never saw him being a player.
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Speaker 2: I just uh, and I could he's another player in
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Speaker 2: the scanting community. Cooper was a total fine by the Eagles,
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Speaker 2: just a total fine. Yeah, blanket ship. The Eagles weren't
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Speaker 2: super high on him, No one really was. Bye starting
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Speaker 2: you know, almost five years at Middle Tennessee State. But
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Speaker 2: when you look at TJ. Edwards, you look at the
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Speaker 2: school and you go, how's this the guy not on
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Speaker 2: anyone's right or he's small and you like, smaller than
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Speaker 2: you like. He's not a great athlete, doesn't cover well,
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Speaker 2: why would you think he'd be any good?
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Speaker 3: That's a good bless the only thing. I mean, he
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Speaker 3: played Big ten football. It's about the best you could say.
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Speaker 1: I played it well, but yeah, didn't get it.
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Speaker 2: Didn't get him drafted so of course he's small, you know,
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Speaker 2: and he's made some money. It was a great story
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Speaker 2: development by him and the coaches. But it's year nine,
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Speaker 2: Season nine. We started in the spring of twenty eighteen.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah. And of course you know Q and A,
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Speaker 3: what some interesting commenters thought last around this time last year,
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Speaker 3: and let's saye, Derek Gunn really had a part of
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Speaker 3: the platform last few years too, Ray Dininger last year.
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Speaker 1: So it's been a great experience.
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Speaker 3: And I am excited now to talk about training camp
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Speaker 3: because it's been a long, long off season and the offense, Adam,
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Speaker 3: as we get into this podcast, is going to be
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Speaker 3: it's gonna be a really interesting dynamic. I mean, I
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Speaker 3: think there's no doubt about the first obvious storyline question.
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Speaker 3: You know, thing to focus on going into camp is
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Speaker 3: not just the offense, but the relationship between the quarterback
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Speaker 3: Jillen Hurts, the new offensive coordinator, Sean Manny, and the
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Speaker 3: head coach of course, uh Nick Sirianni, and how the
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Speaker 3: passing game develops. There is absolutely no question that the
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Speaker 3: Eagles planted a flag in the ground this offseason at
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Speaker 3: the end of last year and said it's.
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Speaker 1: Not good enough.
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Speaker 3: It's not good enough the way to put out what
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Speaker 3: we've been putting out, we have regressed. We can't just
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Speaker 3: get by on being adequate offensively for two for long
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Speaker 3: stretches and then hoping that the offense clicks and wakes up. Yes,
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Speaker 3: sometimes that won us a super Bowl, but it also
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Speaker 3: lost us.
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Speaker 1: In the first round.
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Speaker 3: We need a real modern, twenty twenty six offense and
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Speaker 3: that is what they hope is delivered starting this week
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Speaker 3: in training camp, with the with the early foundation of
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Speaker 3: it being built.
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Speaker 2: You mean the nineteen eighty five offense that we saw
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Speaker 2: last year wasn't good enough for you? Okay?
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Speaker 1: Or is that called what's not insult nineteen eighty five?
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Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, that's embarrassed.
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Speaker 1: She had better third down percentages than the Eagles.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean how it got ripped by other teams.
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Speaker 2: To watch Eagles tabe was comical. But anyway, Yeah, it's
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Speaker 2: it's gonna be interesting because you've got yet another first
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Speaker 2: time play caller. Right, and this is absolutely my top question.
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Speaker 2: Nothing Trump said. I mean, yes, the we'll get the
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Speaker 2: healthy the offensive line. It's a big one. But if
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Speaker 2: herts plays on time, folks, I'm telling you he will
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Speaker 2: be I know people will find this ridiculous to say
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Speaker 2: he'll be better than he was in twenty twenty two
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Speaker 2: when he was before he got hurt right up there
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Speaker 2: for the MVP race because the league figured that the
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Speaker 2: league would figure out the Eagles offense. After that, they
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Speaker 2: completely figured it out in twenty three, and it really
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Speaker 2: it created somewhat in twenty three. Yeah, Brian Johnson lost
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Speaker 2: his job over it. Twenty four, they had the best
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Speaker 2: running game in NFL history from beginning to end for
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Speaker 2: the Super Bowl. At twenty five, the pass games disgusting.
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Speaker 2: So yeah, it's a timing based offense. It's pure West Coast,
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Speaker 2: you know. And we'll get to some more questions. But
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Speaker 2: and as an adjunct to this, it's Sean Manny and
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Speaker 2: as a as not only a play caller, how he
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Speaker 2: handles his first time running rooms being responsible for an offense,
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Speaker 2: how he handles the players hurt him and hurts his
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Speaker 2: relationship him and Tanner McKee. Okay, and he don't knows
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Speaker 2: the offense. He knows West Coast. I mean it's a
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Speaker 2: little it's gonna be a little bit different from what
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Speaker 2: he had, But it's the same terminology, West Coast, Furbige,
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Speaker 2: It's the same everywhere. But and then as another part
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Speaker 2: of this, it's Sirianni. It's not his offense. How is it?
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Speaker 2: How's he going to handle this? The responsibilities? Can he
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Speaker 2: understand that let let Manu and grow be there for support?
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Speaker 2: And also Nick has to be a better coaching was
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Speaker 2: last year? Was it Coull? He was not good enough?
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Speaker 1: What I said, This is gonna.
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Speaker 3: Be a really interesting year, Adam for the NFL along
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Speaker 3: with the Eagles, and Eagles are gonna fold right into
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Speaker 3: it because of how many coordinator changes there were either well,
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Speaker 3: let me say, either offensive coordinator or play caller could
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Speaker 3: be a head coach right changes there were in the NFL, like,
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Speaker 3: for example.
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Speaker 1: The Broncos.
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Speaker 3: For as long as we've known either known or known
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Speaker 3: people who've known Sean Payton, the fact that he is
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Speaker 3: surrendering play calling right to Davis Web to me is
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Speaker 3: fantastic because anybody who either knows or has reported on
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Speaker 3: or knows people who know Sean Payton know that he
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Speaker 3: is very, very territorial about his offense and the fact
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Speaker 3: that he's actually allowing somebody else to call plays. I'm
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Speaker 3: sort of like HM, can't wait to see what it's
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Speaker 3: like in week five and week six if they have
11:53
Speaker 3: a little bit of a dry patch. Because Sewan is
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Speaker 3: not a very you know, he's not known for being
11:58
Speaker 3: even keeled and patient. So and I apply that here
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Speaker 3: to Philadelphia in that we need to see patients.
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Speaker 1: We need to see patients.
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Speaker 3: If it's clunkyet to start from Nick, Sirianna, you mentioned it,
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Speaker 3: there can't be a.
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Speaker 1: Sean.
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Speaker 3: Let me, let me try to help you out with
12:15
Speaker 3: some of the old school ways of doing it right.
12:17
Speaker 3: You gotta let Sean learn. And the fans need to
12:21
Speaker 3: be patient. They wanted something changed, they wanted a more
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Speaker 3: modern offense. Well you're getting it, but you're not getting
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Speaker 3: it from an experienced play caller. You're getting it from
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Speaker 3: someone who's probably gonna take a few lumps early on.
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Speaker 3: Then you have to understand that. And I always hear
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Speaker 3: in the off season we need this, we need that.
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Speaker 1: Then you get it. Then I hear this team was
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Speaker 1: not built for that. This team is built to win.
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Speaker 3: Now you don't have we don't have time for somebody
12:43
Speaker 3: to learn on the job. Well, sorry, folks, you're gonna
12:46
Speaker 3: have to give Sean Mannon time to learn on the job.
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Speaker 3: And if you don't like what you see in weeks
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Speaker 3: one through four, there's no escape in it. Like you
12:53
Speaker 3: gotta give this guy some breathing room. We'll see if
12:55
Speaker 3: we'll see if.
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Speaker 1: That can happen.
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Speaker 2: Adam, Well, look if they're if Hurts is not getting it,
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Speaker 2: and they're two and six, I'll better are off. Who
13:02
Speaker 2: the hell knows what will happen. Yeah, you don't want
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Speaker 2: to go there. They're not thinking that way. But we
13:07
Speaker 2: you know, we have to look at you know, our
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Speaker 2: job is to look at everything right, and we'll only
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Speaker 2: dress that if it happens, when it happens, if it happens.
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Speaker 2: But if Hurts gets the timing, because he's got the
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Speaker 2: arm strength, he's he's fairly durable. I know. The other
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Speaker 2: question is is will he run. They're going to run
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Speaker 2: him more a little bit, but it's not gonna be
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Speaker 2: a ton.
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Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
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Speaker 2: Those days are likely over for him running a ton.
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Speaker 2: It's just now when I'm talking about I'm talking about
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Speaker 2: design plays. I'm not talking about two things pocket breaking
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Speaker 2: down or what he has a tendency to do is
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Speaker 2: leave the pocket prematurely when he shouldn't, and let and
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Speaker 2: let the play go. Let they let the progression develop.
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Speaker 2: You know, that's been an ongoing problem for him, which
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Speaker 2: has been confirmed on tape about three thousand times. I mean,
13:52
Speaker 2: it's just it's part of who he is. But it
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Speaker 2: could be in his back in a rear view pocket
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Speaker 2: review mirrors me. If he gets the timing down, that
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Speaker 2: to me is everything here that before we move on.
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Speaker 2: That is the number one thing is we talked about.
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Speaker 2: It's the timing. It's all that goes into with the
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Speaker 2: coaching parks. Frasier running a quarterback room fully for the
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Speaker 2: first time in his career, that's a big deal. There's
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Speaker 2: a lot goes on here. It's not just timing, it's coaching,
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Speaker 2: it's voices, Nick Scott. It clean that up a little bit,
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Speaker 2: and that's that's just got to be the battle cry.
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Speaker 2: Let's let's clean this up, get the timing down, and
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Speaker 2: let's go right. Uh.
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Speaker 1: Can you think of a quarterback recently.
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Speaker 3: I know we talked about rich Gannon, but any quarterbacks
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Speaker 3: that strike you in the last five ten years that
14:42
Speaker 3: played an entirely different scheme and you saw like a
14:44
Speaker 3: real difference or or just like became a different guy.
14:48
Speaker 3: I mean, I think Jared Duff a little bit, even
14:50
Speaker 3: though it's the same scheme. Honestly, he went from right
14:52
Speaker 3: mcveda to Ben Johnson, but he completely got it and
14:56
Speaker 3: he just became a way better quarterback than he was
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Speaker 3: in LA. I think that there's there's probably guys you
15:01
Speaker 3: can find along the way who once they hit that
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Speaker 3: that that found that right scheme and that right personnel
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Speaker 3: around them and the right mentality, came into their own
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Speaker 3: in a different way, even if they had success.
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Speaker 2: It's interesting with golf is that golf went from the
15:17
Speaker 2: rigid rigidity of Sean mcvay's West Coast ben Johnson's West Coast,
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Speaker 2: which is more forward thinking, a little bit, a little
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Speaker 2: bit out there, but it's still timing base. That is
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Speaker 2: on your point, that's exactly what it is. It's still
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Speaker 2: toming base. But there there's an adjunct to every West
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Speaker 2: Coast offense. There's a there's something. No one runs it
15:35
Speaker 2: exactly the same everybody run any Reids has been bastardized
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Speaker 2: for years. He just doesn't run it the same way
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Speaker 2: as Shanahan or McVeigh. But you know, he was obviously older,
15:46
Speaker 2: but you know It always depends on who you studied under,
15:49
Speaker 2: how you see the game going, how has it been modernized,
15:52
Speaker 2: and so forth. But overall here, yeah, other than rich
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Speaker 2: Gannon who became a player who was just kind of
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Speaker 2: like an athlete trying to play the quarterback position. Yeah, now,
16:03
Speaker 2: you know, he didn't have the greatest arm of the world.
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Speaker 2: Pretty good athlete, you know, about just under six foot three,
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Speaker 2: but for some reason he just fit and got John
16:10
Speaker 2: Gruton's offense and what did he take off? An MVP guy,
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Speaker 2: so got.
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Speaker 1: With it for sure.
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Speaker 3: Uh, let's talk about the extension of the of the
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Speaker 3: passing game, which is the receiving the targets.
16:21
Speaker 1: You know, we know DeVante Smith is going to be
16:24
Speaker 1: a target monster.
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Speaker 3: But over the next four to five weeks, what you
16:29
Speaker 3: and I will be looking for and what other people
16:31
Speaker 3: you know, listening to this podcast are going to want
16:33
Speaker 3: to know, is.
16:34
Speaker 1: Who is the next guy in line?
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Speaker 3: Who is someone that is going to emerge as Jalen
16:40
Speaker 3: Hurts his trusty guy and.
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Speaker 1: I got we didn't bring this up last time, but
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Speaker 1: I thought it was.
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Speaker 3: Really fascinating that Nick Sirianni compared Dontavian Wicks to Keenan Allen.
16:52
Speaker 1: That was really interesting to me. You know, I think
16:55
Speaker 1: if Keenan Allen's a short, compactly built, wide receiver who
16:59
Speaker 1: was really gifted in the short area, in and out
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Speaker 1: of his breaks.
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Speaker 3: Almost like like uh, like the way Jason Levant played,
17:07
Speaker 3: but even better because I mean, I mean Allen was
17:09
Speaker 3: a great athlete, right, Keen Allen is and was a
17:12
Speaker 3: great athlete. So I'd never visioned the taller like d'antavian
17:18
Speaker 3: Wicks that way. But it's really interesting that Sirianni, who
17:20
Speaker 3: coached Keenan Allen when he was there were the Chargers,
17:22
Speaker 3: made that comparison.
17:24
Speaker 2: Yeah. He I mean, I'm just I gotta trust his judgment.
17:28
Speaker 2: But Allen's an inside receiver. Uh Wix can line up inside,
17:32
Speaker 2: but he's more of an ex an outside receiver, right. Yeah,
17:35
Speaker 2: I didn't. I didn't see that. But you know, king
17:37
Speaker 2: Allen as a borderline Hall of Famer probably will make
17:39
Speaker 2: it one of the best possessed receivers. These numbers are
17:42
Speaker 2: pretty massive.
17:43
Speaker 3: I know, I know, he's just in an era of
17:45
Speaker 3: high volume pass catchers, white people.
17:49
Speaker 2: Number.
17:49
Speaker 1: I love the guy. I just didn't know, you know,
17:51
Speaker 1: if you'd make it.
17:52
Speaker 2: Yeah, numbers are not we'll say, but yeah, I thought
17:54
Speaker 2: that was that was wild. So look, Smith is the
17:57
Speaker 2: unquestioned top PAS star. That's not even worth discussing. It's
18:00
Speaker 2: we know this already. We're not telling people what they
18:01
Speaker 2: don't know. But after that, it's completely wide open. Whether
18:04
Speaker 2: it's gonna be Lemon, whether it's gonna be Wicks, it's
18:08
Speaker 2: be surprised. Whether it's gonna be got Her. No, it's
18:11
Speaker 2: not gonna be life stours. Barring a shock. I don't
18:13
Speaker 2: see that. He's got to learn how to block. He
18:16
Speaker 2: just has to learn how to block. He's still new
18:18
Speaker 2: to this tight end position. You don't put guys on
18:21
Speaker 2: the field of can't block, you don't know, you don't
18:23
Speaker 2: field a lot. That's why green Cock Terrige, spite being
18:25
Speaker 2: a pretty good athlete, doesn't play a lot. He's back.
18:29
Speaker 2: Could argue where he should have been. But the bottom
18:32
Speaker 2: line is they need to find a number two pass target.
18:36
Speaker 2: Now it's gonna be more of a pass target by
18:39
Speaker 2: committee approach. It's Smith the unquestioned one, Lemon wis got
18:45
Speaker 2: her And then, as we've discussed many times, could could
18:51
Speaker 2: Hollywood Brown not. He's not gonna be a volume pass target. No,
18:54
Speaker 2: chance at that. But can he be that that one
18:57
Speaker 2: big shot play guy that he really has never been
18:58
Speaker 2: consistently in the national four bullet right?
19:01
Speaker 3: Do you think the Eagles can successfully get to where
19:05
Speaker 3: they want to be being like the Seahawks where it's
19:08
Speaker 3: really just eighty percent of the targets go to one
19:12
Speaker 3: guy in this case DeVante Smith.
19:14
Speaker 1: Who's.
19:16
Speaker 3: He's not as explosive as Jackson Smith and Jigba in
19:20
Speaker 3: terms of forty time or twitchiness, but he's probably as
19:24
Speaker 3: good of a route right, he is as good of
19:25
Speaker 3: a route run. I mean, he's he's an excellent wide receiver.
19:28
Speaker 3: Can he be an eighty five eighty to eighty five
19:31
Speaker 3: percent of the targets and the Eagles get to where
19:33
Speaker 3: they want to go? I think that's a It's an
19:36
Speaker 3: interesting question because they do have what is looks looks
19:39
Speaker 3: like it could be.
19:39
Speaker 1: A very good defense, like an up there with the
19:41
Speaker 1: Seahawks type defense.
19:42
Speaker 2: Actually, by the way, No, DeVante runs were way better
19:45
Speaker 2: that That's I think you got a opposite. Davante's way
19:47
Speaker 2: faster than Jen.
19:50
Speaker 1: Right, DeVante didn't run a Ford, No, but.
19:52
Speaker 2: His time speed I know that his time speed the
19:55
Speaker 2: Davante's time speed over whenever you have to have a
19:58
Speaker 2: time speed somewhere. Even if you didn't run prote every
20:00
Speaker 2: team has a time speed. Uh Smith and Jiggler ran
20:04
Speaker 2: in the like four eight to four five three range.
20:07
Speaker 1: Diddy, I am so I apologize. I must have been
20:09
Speaker 1: confusing him with different Ohio state. Yeah he is a
20:12
Speaker 1: you're right, four four eight at the combine or something.
20:14
Speaker 2: Yeah, he he don't what he is. He's no offense
20:17
Speaker 2: at Davante. Although Davante plays bigger than his listed size,
20:21
Speaker 2: js N is unbelievably strong. Yes, like he is. All
20:27
Speaker 2: the teams have problems with him because hamstrings and pre
20:30
Speaker 2: draft process that everybody got it wrong. I mean, he's
20:34
Speaker 2: surpassed what anyone thought he could be. I loved him
20:36
Speaker 2: when I loved him his first two years because he
20:38
Speaker 2: was like Jason's Jayson had. If you might remember Ryan
20:42
Speaker 2: Grubb was for one year. He was a eleven personnel guy.
20:46
Speaker 2: It was such a lamp that JSN was going to
20:48
Speaker 2: do great. But then he then he carried over once again,
20:51
Speaker 2: and he just did. Then he was obviously a monster
20:53
Speaker 2: last season and got the big contract. So right, yeah, no,
20:57
Speaker 2: Davante will do fine. It's just that can The big
21:02
Speaker 2: question here is before we move on, can the receiver
21:06
Speaker 2: by committee other than DeVante, with the guys we mentioned,
21:09
Speaker 2: can it just be good enough? They don't have to
21:11
Speaker 2: No guy has to have eighty catches other than DeVante,
21:13
Speaker 2: that doesn't matter, right, it's the group together. Can they
21:17
Speaker 2: be efficient route running? Red zone? Uh? Fifty to fifty
21:24
Speaker 2: balls with wits? Obviously he's a big body guy. Can
21:28
Speaker 2: they do everything you need them to do? That? That's
21:30
Speaker 2: and then with Goddard as the other pass target at
21:32
Speaker 2: tight end, it should They're deep enough. It's the quality
21:38
Speaker 2: of these guys, right, the quantity, it's the quality of
21:41
Speaker 2: the group that that's a little bit questionable. We're going
21:43
Speaker 2: to learn more about that as we go along.
21:45
Speaker 1: For sure, thank you for I had to recheck.
21:47
Speaker 3: JSM just plays like he's explosive, but you're right he
21:50
Speaker 3: did not catches.
21:53
Speaker 1: Were talking about that.
21:54
Speaker 2: Yeah, run after the catch is so good in the
21:57
Speaker 2: open field, and he also knows what it's all just
22:00
Speaker 2: route running, it's understanding open space and fighting it. Yep,
22:04
Speaker 2: that's not a lot of guys are good at that.
22:06
Speaker 2: He just is.
22:07
Speaker 1: Yeah, he has great hands, so does Devanta. They're blessed
22:10
Speaker 1: with great hands.
22:11
Speaker 3: Davonte maybe a little better in the contested catch, like
22:13
Speaker 3: fifty to fifty ball because he's got It's got some
22:15
Speaker 3: weird knack for being able to do that for a
22:17
Speaker 3: guy who's one hundred and sixty pounds.
22:18
Speaker 2: I mean, very man. For those of you who don't
22:21
Speaker 2: you that's great funny. There's a lot of people who
22:23
Speaker 2: don't know who Gumby is. Just what you know, people
22:25
Speaker 2: use that line. People less younger than forty may not
22:28
Speaker 2: know who he is, but look at it.
22:30
Speaker 3: Well, I was at a softball tournament and there was
22:33
Speaker 3: a ball that came close but I couldn't get to it,
22:35
Speaker 3: you know, like a foul ball. And I went, oh,
22:37
Speaker 3: go go gadget, you know, like China, like the arm extension.
22:40
Speaker 3: Go go gadget, inspector, gadget. But I realized what people
22:44
Speaker 3: are looking at me, like.
22:44
Speaker 2: What the hell are you talking about? Exactly?
22:47
Speaker 1: All right, all right, let's move to the offensive line. Man.
22:50
Speaker 1: Really important. There's two things that are that we're looking at.
22:54
Speaker 3: Obviously health and I think we'll know that pretty quickly.
22:59
Speaker 3: Just how physically up to the task that guys like Landon,
23:02
Speaker 3: Dickerson and Cam Jurgens look after a really rocky last year,
23:06
Speaker 3: they both said they feel better. Cam Jurgens really has
23:09
Speaker 3: come out and said he feels a lot better than
23:12
Speaker 3: he did. And neither are coming off surgeries that should help.
23:17
Speaker 3: But also you know, like Lane Johnson coming back from
23:20
Speaker 3: from these from a foot injury. A Liz Frank and
23:23
Speaker 3: we talked about the again.
23:24
Speaker 1: This is on his right leg. That's his kicks slide leg.
23:28
Speaker 3: You know, you put a lot of weight and not
23:30
Speaker 3: just a lot of weight, you're pounding on it because
23:32
Speaker 3: you're moving back in your vertical vertical sets on it.
23:35
Speaker 3: Jordan Malatta has been healthy, but he didn't play his
23:39
Speaker 3: best last year. This is a really really essential part
23:42
Speaker 3: of this team's success. And now they're also adapting to
23:47
Speaker 3: a different blocking scheme. So it's almost like what's your
23:50
Speaker 3: what's your one or one A and curiosity their health
23:53
Speaker 3: or their ability to block in a completely different way
23:56
Speaker 3: than they've been asked to do it both really relevant.
23:59
Speaker 2: They are the health, it's one in one day. The
24:00
Speaker 2: health is obvious. And what I like to look at
24:05
Speaker 2: is this is a scouting term, scouting phrase, Really, how
24:09
Speaker 2: do they get out of an awkward stance like how
24:12
Speaker 2: do they move yep, past set also, you know that's
24:17
Speaker 2: important though they are very good run blocking team, terrible
24:19
Speaker 2: against the block for the run, and how they move
24:22
Speaker 2: going forward they look do they look trimmed down? You know,
24:25
Speaker 2: we'll look into their weights and so forth like that.
24:27
Speaker 2: But yeah, it's just it's a total unknown. It's good
24:31
Speaker 2: that you know, these guys say that they're feeling good. Well,
24:34
Speaker 2: that's great, but we're not going to really know until
24:37
Speaker 2: they get to the break of season obviously for sure, right,
24:40
Speaker 2: but man, it was Cam Jurgons was so painful to
24:44
Speaker 2: watch it in the run game last season. I felt
24:46
Speaker 2: bad for him. He could just couldn't be himself. The
24:47
Speaker 2: tape was really bad, but there was a reason for it.
24:52
Speaker 2: And now we're gonna have to see how close he
24:55
Speaker 2: was or is to what he was before he had
24:58
Speaker 2: his latest injury problems.
25:00
Speaker 3: Right, and then of course we're gonna get really good
25:02
Speaker 3: looks at some real key depth candidates. Obviously Kendall in
25:08
Speaker 3: his second year, Drew Kendall being cross trained to guard
25:11
Speaker 3: even though he's a center. Micah Morris, the rookie guard
25:14
Speaker 3: that they draft in six round, who's a terrific athlete,
25:17
Speaker 3: just lacks experience, but he's gonna get in there and
25:20
Speaker 3: get the tutelage.
25:20
Speaker 1: And we're gonna pay attention to Chris Cooper. How is
25:22
Speaker 1: he coaching?
25:23
Speaker 2: You know?
25:24
Speaker 3: How is he handling having a coach in place of
25:27
Speaker 3: a legend who for many of the offensive linement that's
25:30
Speaker 3: the only voice they ever heard since they joined the Eagles,
25:33
Speaker 3: and now it's completely new voice, teaching new things. And
25:36
Speaker 3: you know, everybody says nice things about everybody in the OTAs, Oh,
25:40
Speaker 3: we like this guy, we.
25:41
Speaker 1: Know he's smart.
25:42
Speaker 3: That's great, But it's when you get on the field
25:44
Speaker 3: and you just mentioned it, you have to recover from.
25:47
Speaker 1: A bad set, right, How did everybody relact? How's everybody react?
25:50
Speaker 3: What if the offensive line is getting dominated one day
25:52
Speaker 3: in practice? What does the offensive line coach do to
25:55
Speaker 3: quell that, to get his guys back on the same page.
25:58
Speaker 3: There's gonna be a harmony and a symmetry year that
26:01
Speaker 3: is going to come under the microscope pretty quickly.
26:04
Speaker 2: Yeah, And the thing that you look for with the
26:07
Speaker 2: new staff is, well, just this is not on my list,
26:13
Speaker 2: but you maybe think of something coaches have told me
26:16
Speaker 2: for years, and when I ask how's it going? With
26:17
Speaker 2: it with the headman more often not, they say, well,
26:20
Speaker 2: know when we actually coach real games, because it's good now,
26:23
Speaker 2: but you don't know to learning the pressure cooker, right right.
26:26
Speaker 2: It all sounds great in the offseason, but it doesn't
26:28
Speaker 2: really matter until you've coached real games. Because Sirianni coaches
26:33
Speaker 2: to coaches hard. We've known that for many years. He
26:36
Speaker 2: does a good job for with it mostly. But now
26:40
Speaker 2: it's you've got this whole new offense, You've got a
26:44
Speaker 2: lot of new coaches. There's some holdovers, but this is
26:48
Speaker 2: a this is a it's a transition year on offense,
26:51
Speaker 2: but it's it's a very important year because it's not
26:54
Speaker 2: acceptable not to be in the playoffs. Here. They got in,
26:57
Speaker 2: but they got absolutely embarrassed by a beat up Niners
26:59
Speaker 2: team in phil That that was an absolute embarrassment of
27:01
Speaker 2: all embarrassments. They didn't compete offensive, they were horrendous. Right,
27:05
Speaker 2: that's not what we're used to or their ownership front
27:08
Speaker 2: office quok, the staff, players, mm hm, it won't be
27:12
Speaker 2: it won't be good if they don't make the playoffs.
27:14
Speaker 2: And a lot of it's going to depend on how
27:16
Speaker 2: this offense. The majority of it's gonna be on the offense.
27:18
Speaker 2: Let's let's be honest about it.
27:19
Speaker 3: I am interested in seeing the balance of trying to
27:22
Speaker 3: give guys who are up there in age or have
27:24
Speaker 3: a lot of mileage like Landon Lane Johnson, Landon Dickerson
27:30
Speaker 3: even I guess, you know, my a lot to some extent,
27:32
Speaker 3: and and Jurgens even if Durgons young, but just mileage
27:35
Speaker 3: in terms of naps. But you want to get those
27:38
Speaker 3: guys rest. We would call the maintenance days.
27:40
Speaker 1: There.
27:40
Speaker 3: There would be times in Andy Reid's camp where those
27:42
Speaker 3: guys would like take five days off and just be
27:45
Speaker 3: with Rick Perkholder, you know, like they've got an injury.
27:48
Speaker 3: I put in quotations because you know, campus a bloodbath
27:52
Speaker 3: back then. But you want to Obviously, they want to
27:55
Speaker 3: see these tackles, young tackles, Miles Hinton, they want whose
27:58
Speaker 3: tackle Land Guard. They want to see Camera Williams development,
28:00
Speaker 3: they want to see markkel Bell third round pick. These
28:03
Speaker 3: guys got to get important reps. But whereas in the
28:07
Speaker 3: past it'd be fine to give these other guys maintenance days,
28:10
Speaker 3: they're trying to learn a new offense. So how much
28:12
Speaker 3: are you trying to take Lane Johnson off the field.
28:14
Speaker 3: How much you're trying to take your other first off
28:16
Speaker 3: the field when they're trying to learn a new offense,
28:18
Speaker 3: just so you can get backups key reps. That's going
28:20
Speaker 3: to be an interesting kind of decision strategically for the
28:23
Speaker 3: coaching staff.
28:24
Speaker 2: All right, before we move on on the offensive line,
28:27
Speaker 2: and you mentioned in passing, it's really it's it's the
28:32
Speaker 2: running game redevelopment, and then within that it's it's the
28:38
Speaker 2: development as you talked about. But I'll take it a
28:42
Speaker 2: step further of the developmental offensive lineman Holland Pierce, Willie Lampkin.
28:48
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
28:48
Speaker 2: Okay. They need they need guard help in the worst way.
28:51
Speaker 2: They have zero guard depth. It's really bad. Okay, Like
28:55
Speaker 2: they've gotten away with some stuff in depth. We talked
28:59
Speaker 2: about it in the was it the twenty four Super Bowl? Yeah,
29:04
Speaker 2: twenty two seasons and twenty four season they got really
29:05
Speaker 2: got away with a corner black of cornerback death. They
29:07
Speaker 2: just didn't have any injuries. Oh yeah, yeah, it was
29:10
Speaker 2: twenty two, right, So they don't have any depth of
29:13
Speaker 2: Michael Jordan will see he's just a journeyman. Formly of
29:17
Speaker 2: the latest was the Bucks. But it's the development of
29:21
Speaker 2: these young guys who we mention. You mentioned all those
29:23
Speaker 2: guys who Miles in a guard good luck, we'll see.
29:26
Speaker 2: I find hard to believe, but they know more than
29:28
Speaker 2: we do. Drew Kendall who is really developing. He's going
29:31
Speaker 2: to be the backup center. And you know what, one
29:35
Speaker 2: more thing, Fred Johnson in this doesn't have Stout coach
29:38
Speaker 2: him anymore. Stout Stout reenergized his career, did a great
29:42
Speaker 2: job with him. We'll see, did a good job last
29:45
Speaker 2: year considering he got thrown in there, started more than
29:48
Speaker 2: Eagles would have wanted, but held his own decent job.
29:52
Speaker 1: How giddy are you and I and Andrew are going
29:54
Speaker 1: to be if we do a podcast.
29:55
Speaker 3: You know, a couple of practices in when the pants
29:57
Speaker 3: come out, especially, and we're like, hey, I wasn't counting,
30:01
Speaker 3: but I was really observing. It looked like seventy percent
30:04
Speaker 3: of the snaps they were under center, and there was
30:06
Speaker 3: motion and there was direction and play action from under center.
30:11
Speaker 3: That's really the big thing, right is seeing how that
30:14
Speaker 3: scheme develops over the course of the next four weeks
30:16
Speaker 3: and that play action element that we expect, that wide
30:20
Speaker 3: zone blocking, as you mentioned with the run game being rediscovered,
30:23
Speaker 3: and just the whole new offensive concept that they're going
30:26
Speaker 3: to bring. All that entails the offensive line being on
30:29
Speaker 3: the same page, and the running backs and the quarterback
30:31
Speaker 3: and the snap exchange is going to be important.
30:33
Speaker 1: All that is going to be really interesting.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and then on what you just said is Manians
31:40
Speaker 2: and hurts in their communications. Sticking with it if they're
31:42
Speaker 2: going to be under center a lot, Jalen Siscota, he's
31:47
Speaker 2: just got to stay with it. I know it's not
31:49
Speaker 2: been his deal. H. But play action, as Greg SEL's
31:53
Speaker 2: been telling us, visually, it works so much better when
31:56
Speaker 2: the quarterback's under center. It just does yep, period of
31:59
Speaker 2: a story. Yeah, it's got to happen. You know, it's
32:01
Speaker 2: got to happen. And then you know the other part
32:04
Speaker 2: of this offense, the toush push success. Boy, it was
32:07
Speaker 2: so bad last year. I thought for short to start
32:10
Speaker 2: last season, absolutely they would have outlawed it. Well, nobody
32:14
Speaker 2: cared about they were so bad at it. The clubs
32:16
Speaker 2: didn't care. They were going to bring up to get
32:17
Speaker 2: it voter on the owners meanings. It didn't. No one cared. Okay,
32:21
Speaker 2: literally nobody cared. I was like, this is hard to believe.
32:23
Speaker 2: Didn't never thought I'd see the day. But it happened.
32:25
Speaker 1: It did happen.
32:26
Speaker 3: Of course, you know, the Eagles weren't good at it,
32:28
Speaker 3: and so it became a dead issue. I have a
32:30
Speaker 3: feeling we'll see if this is one of the things
32:33
Speaker 3: I agree with Siriani on when he says, there are
32:35
Speaker 3: some things we've done in the past that you don't
32:37
Speaker 3: want to just throw out with the bath water, right,
32:39
Speaker 3: the baby out with the bathwater. And I think the
32:41
Speaker 3: toush push if your offensive line is healthy and your
32:44
Speaker 3: quarterback is going under center more anyway, I think that
32:47
Speaker 3: there is especially with you know, I like the way
32:50
Speaker 3: the Packers used their big tight.
32:52
Speaker 1: End Tucker Kraft last year.
32:54
Speaker 3: Eagles probably have some guys that they can they can
32:56
Speaker 3: they can probably manufacture some interesting ways of doing the
32:59
Speaker 3: push play without just conventionally lining it up and going.
33:02
Speaker 2: Or fake it. Yeah I faked it. Fake it. Yeah. Absolutely.
33:05
Speaker 2: They've done it for very few times, and it generally
33:08
Speaker 2: works because they're so the defense is so shocked, because
33:11
Speaker 2: they're they're they're they're mentally and working all week to
33:14
Speaker 2: stop it, right, and then they do the fake one
33:17
Speaker 2: is the greatest thing.
33:18
Speaker 3: But I mean, you have to you'd have to activate
33:21
Speaker 3: col Peyton on game day and he'd have to make
33:23
Speaker 3: the team to make it happen. But he could certainly
33:24
Speaker 3: get involved into hit that tight and athleticism in some
33:27
Speaker 3: kind of way of doing it too.
33:28
Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, because honestly, that's a little bit of
33:31
Speaker 2: a value for him, because honestly, he's so far away mechanically,
33:34
Speaker 2: right light years away from being able to throw the
33:38
Speaker 2: ball correctly. He just has a major mechanical flaul despite
33:41
Speaker 2: being a pretty good athlete, and it actually has arm strength.
33:43
Speaker 2: But the problem is that it gets to the gated,
33:46
Speaker 2: you'll see some furs. You go, wow, what the hell
33:48
Speaker 2: happened on that throw? Well, he mechanically he didn't throw
33:50
Speaker 2: it right. It comes up of the tail, it dies,
33:53
Speaker 2: It looks like a quail, which should have gone twenty
33:54
Speaker 2: yards further. But then every once in a while I
33:57
Speaker 2: saw an OTAs when he got his feet set and
34:00
Speaker 2: the ball came out correctly, You're like, wow, that was
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Speaker 2: a tight spiral. Okay, you just don't know what it's coming.
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Speaker 2: So that's pretty much for me. That's it we kind
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Speaker 2: of covered. I don't know if you have anything.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, the no, I do have one last thing I'm
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Speaker 1: going to leave you with here.
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Speaker 3: It's a question for you who because we just did
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Speaker 3: a whole podcast series on a last week. Who's going
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Speaker 3: to be in your mind? Who will be at the
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Speaker 3: end of camp? The quote Lee Heisman, the.
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Speaker 1: Offensive camp climber, the darling of training camp.
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna say day Kwon Wright. I know they have
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Speaker 2: too many tight ends. The actually have eight on the
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Speaker 2: ninety man roster, which is ridiculous.
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Speaker 1: I love it.
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Speaker 2: Five or six for training camp, but big time athlete.
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Speaker 2: He's had some injuries. One in particulars why you get drafted.
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Speaker 2: There's a lot of talent there to develop. Yeah, he's
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Speaker 2: not pushing stours off for god. Obviously they must make
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Speaker 2: the team. They're on the team. But after those two
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Speaker 2: it's all up in the air. The most key for
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Speaker 2: a lot not completely out of the question. He could
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Speaker 2: be one of those four if how he is Again,
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Speaker 2: if he sees it, he won't risk it. That's kind
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Speaker 2: of more often than not. He won't cut a guy
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Speaker 2: when the work. When the work gets out, the guy's
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Speaker 2: a low round pick. Were undrafted for he Clement, By
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Speaker 2: the way, going back to twenty seventeen, it was obvious
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Speaker 2: he was making it. We had no one had any idea,
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Speaker 2: any idea how special he would be. How the hell
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Speaker 2: could you know? No but it was obvious in training
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Speaker 2: kid that he deserved to make it. And how he,
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Speaker 2: to his credit, I think they actually had at one
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Speaker 2: point they had five running backs on their fifty three.
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Speaker 2: I don't know exactly what. I'd have to go back
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Speaker 2: and see what were yep, but that's how he when
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Speaker 2: he says he's you're not gonna risk it, he doesn't
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Speaker 2: doo it. To his credit.
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Speaker 3: All right, mine is a guy I picked last year,
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Speaker 3: but he got hurt, so it kind of negated it.
35:54
Speaker 3: But the guy who's gonna dazzle everybody in training camp
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Speaker 3: and then probably not make the team or have any
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Speaker 3: impact will be Danny Gray.
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Speaker 1: That is my production. He can run, he can run.
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Speaker 1: He's just gotta stay healthy.
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Speaker 3: So I just have a feeling he'll stay healthy and
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Speaker 3: make a lot of splash plays because remember Jale Hurt
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Speaker 3: loves to throw the deep ball down the sideline, and
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Speaker 3: you don't have too many guys other than maybe you know,
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Speaker 3: we know Davante, but you know Marquise Brown could be
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Speaker 3: an example of that. But he wouldn't be like a
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Speaker 3: darling because he's a good He's a first round pick.
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Speaker 3: So Danny Gray could see some see some deep shots
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Speaker 3: from either Hurts or Dalton or maybe even Cole Peyton.
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Speaker 3: And wow, everybody in training camp, that's my prediction.
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Speaker 2: Don't forget yeah real quick. Danny Gray was a third
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Speaker 2: round pick a twenty twenty two. This guy could flat
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Speaker 2: off fla and mess mu oh.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: He had three different ir stints in his career. He's
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Speaker 2: been he's been hurt more than he's been healthy. It's
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Speaker 2: been one injury after another, at least five. It's it's
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Speaker 2: terrible luck. But you know what, he's healthy at least
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Speaker 2: for now. And there is an opening, bollow on your
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Speaker 2: point about Danny Gray. There's an opening for someone to
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Speaker 2: come out of the bloat receive Paul Darius Cooper. They're
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Speaker 2: absolutely that is available here, all right.
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Speaker 3: And a little bit of experience in the offense because
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Speaker 3: he played in the Shanahan offense first.
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Speaker 1: So all right, great stuff. That is our look at
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Speaker 1: the offense going into training camp.
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Speaker 3: On the next podcast, we will go through defense and
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Speaker 3: throw a little bit of special teams in there, and
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Speaker 3: then again a way will go into Eagles training camp.
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Speaker 3: That's gonna do it for this episode of Inside the Birds,
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Speaker 3: Season nine of Inside the Birds for Adam Kaplan.
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