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Phillies on the Brink: The Road Into October (PST Episode 868) · The Philadelphia Sports Table | Philly Sports News & Views

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  Speaker 1: Thank you. Welcome to the Philadelphia Sports Table podcast show,
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  Speaker 1: the longest running weekly Philly sports podcast show in the world.
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  Speaker 1: Over 13 and a half years strong. We got a
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  Speaker 1: great show coming your way this week as we dive
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  Speaker 1: into some Eagles talk. We're going to be getting into
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  Speaker 1: some 76ers talk as well. And what we're throwing down
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  Speaker 1: on the table, we got a great interview with our
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  Speaker 1: guest this week, Liz Rocher from the Hit and Season podcast.
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  Speaker 1: We're going to be talking about this Philadelphia Phillies team.
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  Speaker 1: Eric and I are going to be talking about that
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  Speaker 1: as well. And yes, my buddy Eric DeKing. And it's
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  Speaker 1: good to see.
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  Speaker 2: You, buddy.
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  Speaker 1: We got a lot going on in the world of
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  Speaker 1: Philly sports here, man.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you might want to change the name of their
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  Speaker 3: podcast just based on what the Phillies are hitting, how
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  Speaker 3: they're hitting lately. Just.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure we're going to get to that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Wow.
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  Speaker 3: Is it bad?
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  Speaker 1: It's not great as they are looking at this post season,
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  Speaker 1: you know, Liz and I, I mean, we're going to,
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  Speaker 1: we're going to talk about, you know, certain players on
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  Speaker 1: the team who need to step up and stuff, but yeah, I'm,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not necessarily hopeful that this is an organization and
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  Speaker 1: team that's going to be able to go far in
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  Speaker 1: the post season here.
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  Speaker 3: Or if they get into the post season, that is true.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, right now.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly.
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  Speaker 1: Exactly. I think they still need two games to win
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  Speaker 1: at this point, but, uh, We shall see. Look, why
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  Speaker 1: don't we get our discussion started off with this Philadelphia
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  Speaker 1: Eagles team. Look, one of, what, about a half a
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  Speaker 1: dozen teams in the league that are still undefeated. Happy
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  Speaker 1: that they're undefeated. They are 2-0. Things haven't necessarily looked
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  Speaker 1: great for the Eagles in these first two games as
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  Speaker 1: the Sean Mannion offense still manifesting itself. The offensive line...
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  Speaker 1: It is absolutely horrendous. We're certainly going to be talking
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  Speaker 1: about that too. And the Eagles also made a couple
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  Speaker 1: signings this week that we're going to get into. But Eric,
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  Speaker 1: the running game, like I wonder if they can actually
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  Speaker 1: get their mojo back because first down has been absolutely horrendous.
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  Speaker 1: for this team. And one of our good friends, Dave
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  Speaker 1: Mangels over at bleedinggreennation.com actually wrote a piece on this.
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  Speaker 1: We were going to be talking about this. I saw
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  Speaker 1: the piece. I was like, you know what? Everybody's talking
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  Speaker 1: about the fact that the Eagles on early downs can't
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  Speaker 1: get it done. They cannot get it done. The offense
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  Speaker 1: is 28th in EPA play and 31st in both yards
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  Speaker 1: per play and success rate. On first down, first down,
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  Speaker 1: the Eagles have as many negative plays as they do
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  Speaker 1: plays that have gained seven plus yards, which are nine each.
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  Speaker 1: On their 48 first downs, they have failed to gain
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  Speaker 1: yardage on 18 of them. They are horrendous on first down.
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  Speaker 1: They are horrendous within the run game as well, buddy.
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  Speaker 1: And look, this isn't something that's going to change overnight.
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  Speaker 1: They're going to be playing a Bears team that is
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  Speaker 1: not too, too terrible, of course. And yes, we if
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  Speaker 1: you go back to the opposition territory pod in the feed,
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  Speaker 1: you're going to see our and listen to our Eagles
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  Speaker 1: Bears preview show where we talk about the trenches and
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  Speaker 1: with these two teams, but man, I'm worried about the
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  Speaker 1: Eagles run game. I'm worried about this offensive line and it's,
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  Speaker 1: it's a cause for concern here in the beginning part
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  Speaker 1: of this season, man.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I think the elephant in the room based
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  Speaker 3: on this topic is the offensive line. Uh, it is
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  Speaker 3: just not the same as what it used to be. Um, we're,
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  Speaker 3: we're used to that stalwart front, you know, coached by
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  Speaker 3: Jeff Stalin. And there was just never a concern that
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  Speaker 3: that was going to be one of the strengths of
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  Speaker 3: the team. And I think we're, you know, it's, it's
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  Speaker 3: not a detriment yet, but, uh, it's, it's, it's shaky.
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  Speaker 1: Well, it's not a detriment because Jalen hurts and this
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  Speaker 1: wide receiver core are actually getting shit done on the field.
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  Speaker 1: They're getting it done. Like we, I mean, I say
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  Speaker 1: week after week, it's only two weeks, but still they
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  Speaker 1: may not win these games without Jalen hurts and the
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  Speaker 1: wide receivers doing what they did. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And it does mean the next point is, um, Jalen
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  Speaker 3: hurts looks fantastic.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Like offensive line is doing him no favors. They're not
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  Speaker 3: doing Saquon any favors either. Um, but, but Jalen has
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  Speaker 3: been extremely competent within this new offense. And I, I
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  Speaker 3: I'm thinking like maybe, maybe to boost the first down, uh,
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  Speaker 3: percentages and, and just the offense overall, maybe they need
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  Speaker 3: to go back to the Andy Reed era where he
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  Speaker 3: openly said, like, we're going to open up the run
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  Speaker 3: game using the passing game.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And I, I, that's the route they kind of have
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  Speaker 3: to go just early on until maybe the offensive line gets,
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  Speaker 3: gets their feet underneath them. I think that's just the
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  Speaker 3: way he's performing and the way the offense, the receivers
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  Speaker 3: and Zach Ertz is back in the house.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, let's get into that. The fact that Zach
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  Speaker 1: Ertz is back, which honestly I do love. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: it's a great storyline. One of the best tight ends
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  Speaker 1: to have ever played for the Philadelphia Eagles back on
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  Speaker 1: this team. Of course, Of course, coming back from an
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  Speaker 1: ACL injury, and a lot of guys in the league
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  Speaker 1: do it successfully, and yes, he is older, but now
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  Speaker 1: with Dallas Goddard being out for as long as he
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  Speaker 1: is going to be out with his MCL sprain, I
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  Speaker 1: like this signing because I think it can be good
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  Speaker 1: for this team overall, and I think it could be
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  Speaker 1: good for the offense. Give him a little spark. Give
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  Speaker 1: him a little boost.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, was Brent Selick not available? Yeah. I, I, I,
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  Speaker 3: I just saw, I, you know, I, I, I just
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  Speaker 3: saw the name and I was like, Oh my God,
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  Speaker 3: that's right. And then I remember like he was on,
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  Speaker 3: you know, the, the command that comes, um, not that
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  Speaker 3: long ago. And, uh, I was like, Oh yeah, he's
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  Speaker 3: still been playing, but it kind of forgot about him.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Um, I think it's a nice, I think it's a
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  Speaker 3: good signing. Like what else are you going to do?
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  Speaker 3: You know, the, the, the kid, what's the name? Eli Stowers.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Um, don't know if he's quite ready for that. So
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  Speaker 3: it was good to bring another body in, but I'm
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  Speaker 3: hoping he can, at least he can help this offense, um,
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  Speaker 3: like I said, open up the running game by using
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  Speaker 3: the passing game. And I think that I really think
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  Speaker 3: that's what they have to do. Um, and, and they caught, they, they,
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  Speaker 3: they've definitely caught some luck early on in the season.
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  Speaker 3: Cause yeah, yeah. The comes are terrible. I mean, there's
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  Speaker 3: not a good team and we, we faced Jaden Daniels
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  Speaker 3: before he went down week two and we, and they'd
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  Speaker 3: still beat them. Um, they played a really bad Titans team, uh,
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  Speaker 3: last week and they had, they have the bears coming up.
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  Speaker 3: Who's off. There's defense is very shaky. Um, And no
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  Speaker 3: Caleb Williams. So they should be 3-0 going into week four. And,
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  Speaker 3: you know, it's nice that they're playing this team without
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  Speaker 3: Caleb Williams because that'll give, you know, Goddard maybe another
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  Speaker 3: extra week of rest.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Or, you know, until he has to come back when,
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  Speaker 3: you know, because Ertz wasn't even on a roster.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: So obviously, and if you want to talk about Kenny
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  Speaker 3: Moore signing, it's the same thing. He wasn't even on
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  Speaker 3: an NFL team.
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  Speaker 1: 31-year-old defender. He brings nine years of experience, all with
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  Speaker 1: the Indianapolis Colts. I mean, I guess you consider it.
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  Speaker 1: The fact that adding some depth to a group that
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  Speaker 1: has dealt with injuries, that's trying to find their footing
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  Speaker 1: gives them. Look, I'm trying to be optimistic here in
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  Speaker 1: terms of I think he may give some flexibility to
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  Speaker 1: their secondary. But look, they waived him shortly after the
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  Speaker 1: NFL draft and he spent the offseason looking for a
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  Speaker 1: place and he lands here and. Uh, in Philadelphia. And I, I,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know what type of difference he's
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  Speaker 1: really going to make at the end of the day,
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  Speaker 1: but it's like, okay, maybe there's some flexibility in terms
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  Speaker 1: of the depth here. I mean, I'm trying to be optimistic.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I saw some reactions on Twitter. People like, yeah. And
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, the Colts have the worst defense in the
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  Speaker 3: league right now. Yeah. And this guy was, and they,
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  Speaker 3: and they cut him. So yes, but it's good to
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  Speaker 3: have depth. I mean, look, look what happened with the lions. Uh,
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  Speaker 3: Vontae Maddox went out. I, I was surprised to even
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  Speaker 3: hear his name that he's still in the league.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Um, but yeah, it's always good to have depth and have,
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  Speaker 3: have the cap room that, how he's so good at to,
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  Speaker 3: to fill in spots like that when there's someone goes down,
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  Speaker 3: but yeah. Um, not expecting much. He was made the
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  Speaker 3: pro wall five years ago. Um, But he's 31. I'm
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  Speaker 3: assuming because he was over 30, had a hard time
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  Speaker 3: finding a spot on the team. Honestly, it can't hurt.
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  Speaker 3: It's paltry money for the Eagles. We'll see. Again, I'll reiterate.
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  Speaker 3: Thank God we're playing the Bears on Monday night. without
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  Speaker 3: their quarterback and with a pretty atrocious defense. Yeah, absolutely.
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  Speaker 1: Look, just really quick, going back to this Eagles offense
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  Speaker 1: and specifically the offensive line, even though it's only been
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  Speaker 1: two games, I don't think this is a situation where
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  Speaker 1: one bad game means everything or even two bad games
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  Speaker 1: from a running standpoint and offensive line standpoint. means everything,
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  Speaker 1: but the fact of the matter is that the offense's
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  Speaker 1: failure to gain a single first down on first down
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  Speaker 1: against the commanders is really mind-boggling. It really is. This
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  Speaker 1: is an offensive line and coaching issue, and you alluded
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  Speaker 1: to it earlier. This is not Jalen Hurts' issue. This
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  Speaker 1: is not a wide receiver issue here at all. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: the Eagles are 19th in sack rate per play, 28th
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  Speaker 1: in pressures per play. Short throws to beat the pressure
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  Speaker 1: is is a tried and true way of masking offensive
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  Speaker 1: line problems, but the Eagles' entire first down offense is
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  Speaker 1: throwing short passes. So they're not trying to take a
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  Speaker 1: shot down the field, which means it's just ineffective coaching
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  Speaker 1: here at this point. So as good as the passing
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  Speaker 1: game in general has been and what Sean Mannion has done,
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  Speaker 1: which I like, a lot of pre-snap motion. We've got,
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  Speaker 1: you know, trying to confuse the defense. Our wide receivers
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  Speaker 1: are doing a damn good job with getting open, running
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  Speaker 1: their routes. It's still these early down plays that we're
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  Speaker 1: going to need to watch over the course of these
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  Speaker 1: past seasons. or over the course of these next couple
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  Speaker 1: of weeks here. So I don't know. Do you have
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  Speaker 1: any more thoughts here?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Just in, in defense of the offensive line, two things. One,
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  Speaker 3: the Titans have a really good front.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And they, they, they kind of manhandled the Eagles offensive line.
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  Speaker 3: So it's not the worst thing in the world. And
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  Speaker 3: do you think maybe the new scheme, they're still getting
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  Speaker 3: ready to still getting used to the new scheme.
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  Speaker 2: I do.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely. That could be part of it too. We'd love
• 11:07
  Speaker 1: to know what you are thinking. If you're watching on YouTube,
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  Speaker 1: leave a comment below on this Philadelphia Eagles team, what
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  Speaker 1: they've done, where they're heading. We would love to hear
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  Speaker 1: from you. So that being said, we're going to take
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  Speaker 1: a break. And when we get back, we're going to,
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  Speaker 1: we're going to dive into some Sixers talk. Haven't talked
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  Speaker 1: about the Sixers, but we're going to get into this
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  Speaker 1: team and what we may see specifically with the bench.
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  Speaker 1: this upcoming season. Stick with us. All right, we're back.
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  Speaker 1: And to dive into some more Philly sports talk here,
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  Speaker 1: we are less than a month away before the NBA
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  Speaker 1: season starts here. And we are all high on this
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  Speaker 1: Sixers team, of course, based on the offseason. But I
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  Speaker 1: think a question that a lot of us are going
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  Speaker 1: to be talking about, analyzing and assessing, it should be,
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  Speaker 1: you know, what bench piece is going to be really
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  Speaker 1: key for this team during the 2026-2027 regular season, Eric?
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  Speaker 1: Because The bench, as we know, has been absolutely atrocious
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  Speaker 1: for the Sixers over the years. I mean, no qualms
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  Speaker 1: about that at all. But I think when we look
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  Speaker 1: at the one signing made over this offseason, Anthony Simmons,
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  Speaker 1: that potential for him to become an elite bench guard
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  Speaker 1: is I think that potential is obviously there. His three-point
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  Speaker 1: shooting is so critical, especially when he was on the Celtics.
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  Speaker 1: For me, I mean, he's the key bench piece, in
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  Speaker 1: my opinion, coming into this season here. What are your
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  Speaker 1: thoughts and your assessments here as we're less than a
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  Speaker 1: month away?
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  Speaker 3: All right, let's try this again. Anthony Simons is his name.
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  Speaker 1: What did I call him? Did I call him Simmons?
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  Speaker 3: God damn.
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  Speaker 1: You know what? I stink. Oh, my gosh.
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  Speaker 3: I think you actually put You stressed the wrong syllable
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  Speaker 3: in his first name too. And you said Simmons. You
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  Speaker 3: said Anfernee Simmons.
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  Speaker 1: I hate me.
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  Speaker 3: Anfernee Simmons. I hate me.
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  Speaker 1: Unreal. Unreal. I mean, I told everybody why this happens
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  Speaker 1: because I'll be reading something and it just doesn't click
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  Speaker 1: in my brain because I'm like actually reading something that I,
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  Speaker 1: you know what? I should just, I'm going to take
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  Speaker 1: this coaster and just throw it.
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  Speaker 3: Oh my God. Jeff, calm down. You need to call somebody.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. Okay. And Fernie.
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  Speaker 3: And Fernie Simons. And Fernie Simons. Okay. Anyway.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: Key bench.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: The bench is, is, has been, I'll use the word again,
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  Speaker 3: paltry in the past, past few seasons. And it, it's
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  Speaker 3: always been one of those spots in Philly sports being
• 13:53
  Speaker 3: a big Sixers fan where you text your friends. Like
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  Speaker 3: I have tight Sixers friends that we text all the
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  Speaker 3: time about the Sixers. And when they, they'll, they'll sign
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  Speaker 3: a piece for the bench. We'll just pour over their
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  Speaker 3: stats and like what they do well. And we're like,
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  Speaker 3: you know what? Good signing. This is going to be
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  Speaker 3: a good bench piece. And every time it's like 50%
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  Speaker 3: of the time, I was like, no, it wasn't. We're
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  Speaker 3: just trying to convince ourselves it was, um, They, I
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  Speaker 3: think the consensus is like this. They have one of
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  Speaker 3: the top three benches in, in all of basketball going
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  Speaker 3: into the season.
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  Speaker 1: It's amazing.
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  Speaker 3: They signed some really good veterans. Uh, we didn't talk
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  Speaker 3: about KCP. Um, Katavia's Caldwell Pope.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Uh, great defender. I, you know, he's probably lost a
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  Speaker 3: step in the past. You know, he's like, I think
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  Speaker 3: he's 32, 33. Um, I knew he was going to
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  Speaker 3: come eventually because he's one of LeBron's guys. He loves LeBron.
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  Speaker 3: I would too. I would definitely ride that man's coattails financially.
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  Speaker 3: Great pickup. We haven't really talked about LeBaron Phylon Jr.,
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  Speaker 3: the guy they drafted. I think he's going to be
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  Speaker 3: instant offense off the bench along with Anthony Simons. I
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  Speaker 3: think they have really good They've really, really good defender
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  Speaker 3: in case he peeking off the bench and between Simons and,
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  Speaker 3: and file on, that's going to be really good offensively.
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  Speaker 3: But I, I think the guy is going to be,
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  Speaker 3: it's going to be the key was the signing before
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  Speaker 3: the trade in a LeBron thing. Dean Wade.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: I think is going to be so key for this team. Okay.
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  Speaker 3: Not just because of the bench. Cause I mean, having
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  Speaker 3: him come off the, coming off the bench and giving
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  Speaker 3: you 25 minutes is huge. I mean, he was a
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  Speaker 3: starter for the Cavs last year.
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  Speaker 1: Do you think more from a defensive standpoint too?
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  Speaker 2: Both.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, he's a good three point shooter.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: He'll, he'll definitely thrive in, in the offense because they're
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  Speaker 3: going to leave him alone. Like if you got edge
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  Speaker 3: comb LeBron and, and, and Maxie out there, who the
• 15:42
  Speaker 3: hell's going to card weight in the corner? He'll be
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  Speaker 3: wide open for threes and he's a really good defender.
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  Speaker 3: He's like six, nine, six, 10 big guy. And he's
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  Speaker 3: going to, he's going to start a bunch, you know,
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  Speaker 3: he's going to fill in for pretty much anytime Brown
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  Speaker 3: or LeBron aren't playing. So, I think he's the absolute
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  Speaker 3: key of the entire bench, but it's, everyone's going to,
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  Speaker 3: everyone's going to thrive basically from the strength of the
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  Speaker 3: starting lineup. Now, like I'm hoping Adam Bona, his basketball
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  Speaker 3: IQ will go up a little bit because it can't,
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  Speaker 3: it can't go any lower. He's not, not the most
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  Speaker 3: basketball smart player I've ever seen, but yeah, they, they,
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  Speaker 3: they have, they have a really solid bench and you know,
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  Speaker 3: they're going to get a veteran or, another veteran or
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  Speaker 3: so at the buyout, you know, in the buyout time
• 16:27
  Speaker 3: in like February or March. So yeah, the bench I'm
• 16:30
  Speaker 3: not worried about this year. Yeah.
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: And it's amazing that we can actually say that. And
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: I think of course with Embiid, you know, in, in
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: the health issues he consistently has, and we're going to
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: see him, This year.
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: That's putting it lightly. Yeah, we're going to say it. No,
• 16:43
  Speaker 3: his health issues.
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 16:46
  Speaker 3: Every year there's a new issue.
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: But you mentioned Adem Bona. So for two years, I mean,
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: he's displayed, I think, flashes of promise. And he's also
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: made a ton of miscues. You know, like we say here.
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: You can't fall out of a basement window, and he
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: certainly can't. I think he can only grow. But do
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: you think that growth is going to be enough for
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: this team when Embiid is going to be out? Because,
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's going to be one of the storylines
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: this coming season when it comes to center position on
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: this team here. Can he finally become a stronger defensive
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: rebounder as well? That's something I'm going to be looking for,
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: especially early in the season.
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and the nice thing is with the roster they've built,
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: They have so much flexibility that, you know, I can't
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: see Adam Bona playing 25, 30 minutes or 25 minutes
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: a game at the backup center spot because you can
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: really play around with your spot. Like, there's a lineup
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: where for maybe like four or five minutes, you could
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: have LeBron as your center.
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: Exactly.
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: And just surrounded with three-point shooters. You could have Dean
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: Wade at the center spot. You know, he's 6'10, and
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: just go small and quicker. So I... I'm hoping that's
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: kind of what Nick Nurse is looking at because you
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: can kind of help nullify Adam Bona's boners that he
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: has quite often in the game.
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: And we 100,000 times talk about how many games is
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: it going to be going to give you? I mean,
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: I've heard people say, just play him once a week
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: and have him healthy going into the playoffs. Yes. Not
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: the worst idea in the world. I mean, if LeBron
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: gives you 60 games, which he probably won't, I'm thinking
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: like 55.
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: I was going to say 50, probably.
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but the Brown-Maxie-Edgecombe combo, I don't think you have
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: to run LeBron and beat into the ground. Yeah, yeah.
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's going to be fun to watch. Let us
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: know what you're thinking about this Sixers team. Shoot us
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: off an email, PhiladelphiaSportsTable at gmail.com or leave us a
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: comment below if you're watching on YouTube. What do you
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: think about this upcoming season? We'd love to hear from you.
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: And let's shift over now to the Philadelphia Phillies because
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: the Phillies here, Eric, are just hanging on by a thread.
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: My gosh. I believe they need to win two games
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: at this point to actually make it into the postseason.
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: I'm going to be talking to Liz Roescher from the
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: Hit and Season podcast in a bit about just the
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: chances of what they can or what they may not
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: be able to do during the course of this postseason.
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: So if they make it. So I just the batting
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: is just absolutely infuriating right now as we were at
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: the end of September here. I know you had had
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: some stats that you wanted to actually dive into here
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: as well. It's incredible how inconsistent this team actually is.
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I sent you this tweet from John Clark. uh
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: this morning and uh yeah Schwarber Turner Harper hitting combined
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: 220 in September Real Muto's 0 for 26 his last
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: 26 at bats And Brandon Marsh, the all-star, uh, starting.
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: He did hit a home run a few nights ago.
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Batting 159 in September. He's batting 262 after the all-star.
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: I think the all-star game, he was batting 320 leading
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: the national league. Yep. Uh, he's dropped what? 80 was
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: at 60 points.
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: That is falling off a ledge. That is so incredible.
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: I don't ever remember this happening to a Phillies player ever.
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: That's like the Alfred Hitchcock vertigo movie where he's just
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: Jimmy Stewart's is falling down the stair. Like, yeah, just
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: tumbling into the ether. Um, the whole team is just,
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: it doesn't, does not look very good on the, on
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: the upside is, um, For them to clinch, I think
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: if they win today and Arizona loses or San Diego loses,
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: I think they clinch a spot. I think they clinch
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: the last spot.
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: I think they're going to get in. I do.
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: Me too.
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: But it still would not surprise me because we get
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: the rug pulled out from us all the time as
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: Philly sports fans. And yes, I know that our teams
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: are relevant and this and that. But still, we talk
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: about it here. but still it wouldn't surprise me if
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: something were to happen where it's like, wow, this is
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: going to come down to the last freaking game of
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: the season. You know, it wouldn't surprise me at all.
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: Well, I mean, they're not playing how you would want
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: a team to be playing going into the playoffs.
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly.
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: I mean, just look at the team surrounding them. Like the,
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: the two other wildcard team, the Cubs and Padres are
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: hot as hell.
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: I mean, Paul, uh, PCA for the Cubs is probably
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: gonna be the MVP of the league.
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: And, uh, Yeah, the Dodgers are the Dodgers. The Braves
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: are really good. They smacked the Phillies around this year.
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: And I think, what, the Brewers get a bye in
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: the first? Is that how it works?
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: Who's the other team?
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: The Brewer? Oh, my gosh. Why am I forgetting off
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: the top of my head?
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: I think I said it. Yeah, Dodgers. Dodgers. Yeah, yeah.
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: So I.
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: I think we're probably the worst team out of those
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: seven teams we just discussed, including the Brewers. Right now,
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: we're like the worst team to be in the playoffs
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: in the National League. I'm going to use the term again,
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: offense is paltry. And we have two really good starters.
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: Lazaro's back, thank God, after that. The bullpen did well
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: last night after the first time in forever in a
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: four one loss, unfortunately. So it's, yeah, it's, it's not looking,
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: it's a little bleak.
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: Well, I mean, I'm going to be talking to Liz
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: about this as well, Eric, but like at the end
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: of the day, it's going to all come down to pitching.
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: It's going to come down to the starting pitching here.
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: And like, what is our level of confidence in these pictures?
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: You know what the starting rotation is. is going to
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: be in the, in the post season. Can they get
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: it done? They're just going to need the run support.
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: And that is what is so enraging right now. When
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: you talk about these key players and what their batting
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: average is, what you just mentioned, I just cannot believe
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: that I like, and I wonder, I wonder how much
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: of this is actually like a sports psychology type of thing.
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: Like these guys are so good on paper. This is
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: a good team on paper. but it hasn't translated over
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: to the field at all. It just doesn't, you know,
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: it's incredible.
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: But their one ray of hope is that their top
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: three starters, especially in a five game series that they're
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: going to have in the first round.
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: Are, are as it's as solid as you can get
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: in baseball. Maybe the Dodgers are better. I wouldn't even
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: say the Brewers are better because after, after Henderson and Ms, it's,
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: you know, they don't have the best pitching.
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: So to have Wheeler, And Sanchez and Lizardo going into
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: a five-game series, I feel pretty confident that you just
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: got to eke out. three to four runs.
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. Yeah.
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: It's such a bummer, but yeah, that's, that's, that's the
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: one thing as a Phillies fan, you can latch onto
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: is we have three awesome starters. That's pretty much there's
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: what else, what else is, are we happy about?
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: Exactly.
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: Exactly.
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: I mean, is there a chance that this team can
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: get hot? Absolutely. There is like towards the end of
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: the season, there's a chance it's constantly hot and cold
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: with this team. It is with the bats. I should
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: say it's constantly hot and cold. There's no consistency at all.
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: Right now, the Phillies are that guy that refuses to
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: turn his heat on, even though it's 35 degrees. It's
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: like one more day. We can make it. We don't
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: need to get hot yet. Like, I don't need the
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: heat yet. So it's like if they're going to do it,
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: they better do it soon.
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: Absolutely.
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: Absolutely. All right. Great way to end the first half
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: of this podcast episode here. Buddy, I'm gonna let you go.
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: We're going to talk to Liz Rocher here. Any final
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: thoughts as we're moving along here?
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: I'm excited for the Sixers season. I really, really am.
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: I'm excited for the Flyers, too. We've seen some Flyers hockey, too.
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: They lost their preseason games, though.
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: I saw that on Twitter a little bit. What the
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: hell's happening? Their first game was at the Giants Center,
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: which is near my house. It was barely a real game.
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: Calm down, everybody.
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: All right. Sounds good, buddy. I'm going to let you go.
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: We've got Liz Rocher coming. We're going to take a break.
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: We'll be back in just a bit. And now on
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: the table.
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: Joining us now from the hit and season podcast. I
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: love listening to her and her co-hosts on Apple podcast.
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: You can subscribe on whatever podcast platform you're listening to
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: us on. They're on the YouTubes as well. Again, just
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: search out the hit and season podcast. We've got our
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: friend Liz Rocher. Liz, thanks so much for jumping on
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: here to talk about this Phillies team with us, man.
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: Right down to the wire here, right?
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: Absolutely. It's my pleasure as always to be here talking
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: to you about Philly's stuff here at the end of
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: most things.
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: Really, I mean, reflecting on 2026 with this team really
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: has been, of course, up and down. I mean, that's
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: what this team does to us every single year. It's
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: always up and down. You know, we've got some really
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: great hot streaks that we can reference. We've got some
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: real cold streaks that we can look at as well. But,
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: you know, when I see this The 2026 season and
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: what it really has been, Liz, two words, not surprising.
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: You know, I mean, for me, it's like not surprising.
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: I mean, is that kind of how you feel in
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: a way? Yeah.
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: I mean, the way that they've played the whole year,
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: it hasn't really been consistent. It never really is. We're
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: not the Brewers.
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: Yep.
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: And it's not surprising because this is just the way
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: the Phillies should get into October. where if they've played
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: the whole year this way, you know, they have to
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: be scrambling a little bit.
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they do.
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: They do. That's what this team gives us fans every
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: single year, it seems here at this point. But look,
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: we're less than a week away from the postseason, and
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: the Phillies are still fighting to get in, basically, as
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: of us recording this. I mean, they are in the
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: third wildcard spot as of us recording this. And I believe,
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: if I'm not mistaken, Liz, again, recording this on Wednesday
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: here on the 23rd of September here, believe the magic
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: number is two wins for them to get in. Am
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: I correct with that at this point? I think it is.
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: I think it's two wins.
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: It is too.
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So I mean, we're going to go along with
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: this discussion as though the Phillies are going to get
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: into the playoff picture and the post season. But at
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: the end of the day, do you think they're actually
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: going to get there? And if they're going to get there,
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: how does this happen?
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: I mean, I do. They're, I was looking at the
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: standings and the Diamondbacks are still four games back, even
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: though they've won three in a row. So I don't
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: think there's a chance they'll catch up in the next
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: six games there are to play. I mean, stupider things
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: have happened, but. The right now, I John always John Stolnes,
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: my one of my co-hosts is always has like the
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: tiebreakers in his head. I don't remember any of that.
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: But currently, the Phillies are in the first, second and
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: third wildcard spots because they are tied with the Cubs
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: and the Padres at eighty seven.
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: It's crazy.
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: That's wild, especially when you look at the Cubs like
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: their run differentials plus one forty six, which is wild.
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: They they should not be up here.
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: They should be somewhere else. So it's really, it's an
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: incredible story for the Cubs who I hate and would
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: like the Phillies to be.
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: Absolutely. And look, I think the question that we have
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: all been asking all of us, Phillies fans, um, as
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: we've been assessing the season again, you know, you talked about,
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: and I mentioned too, just inconsistency. It has not been
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: a consistent season for this, for this crew in general.
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: We're trying to assess whether or not the Phillies are
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: actually built for October. So as we dive into this, Liz,
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: what characteristics does this team have that can particularly translate
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: well into playoff baseball? What are your thoughts here?
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: Well, they've got big players. They've got big names. They've
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: got a lot of guys that they could depend on.
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: I mean, The question is whether they'll come through, whether
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: those guys will actually do what they're supposed to do.
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: But on paper, they are built for October. They've got
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: like a killer closer. They've got great guys in the rotation.
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: They've got Bryce Harper and Trey Turner and Kyle Schwarber
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: and all that up in their lineup. Like on paper,
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: they are built for October. In reality, it's a little different. But,
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: you know, looking, I've been spending some time looking at
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: the American League and what an absolute mess. Disgusting, horrible
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: mess it is. They've got one team at 96 wins.
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: They've got another team at 90 wins. And those are
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: both in the AL East. That's the Rays and the Yankees.
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: The Yankees are in the wild card because the Rays
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: are so far ahead. And then the winners of the
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: Central and the West are 82-75 the Guardians and 78-79 Astros.
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: What a garbage division.
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: It does stink. It really does.
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: There is a team winning a division that is under
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: 500 at this moment.
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: It's incredible.
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: It's three and seven in their last 10. Like you
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: look at the, the guardians and the Astros, like, are
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: they built for, you know, October? Right.
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: Exactly.
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: No. And if you look at the, the wild card,
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: it is the Yankees, the red socks and the white
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: socks who are 81 and 76, which is incredible.
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: Thinking about what they've done, but like it's, that's another
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: weak division. Like, are they built for October? It's a question.
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely.
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: The Phillies are definitely built better for October than those teams.
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: I like how you put that built better for October
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: than some of these teams. And like, and it's so
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: interesting what you just said, and we're all thinking about
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: it all the time, this Phillies team so good on paper,
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: But that doesn't always translate over to the field. And
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: we're just trying to assess it year after year after
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: year as to why this happens. Why that this is
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: still a prevalent theme of an amazing team on paper
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: but doesn't always translate over. to the mound, to the field,
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: to the infield, the outfield, whatever it is. And I
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: wonder why, because if you're a guy like Dave Dombrowski,
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: who is putting together a team year after year, you
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: want the best team on paper, right? You want the
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: best team on paper. But it must be, there must
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: be some, and again, I'm not trying to be a
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: Dave Dombrowski apologist, because I remember I was on the
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: Hit and Season podcast with John a couple months ago,
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: and I sounded like a Dave Dombrowski apologist.
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: We were angry at Dave at that point. Exactly.
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: But I still keep in mind that he has gotten
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: this team to some sort of relevance within the National
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: League over these years, and there's something to be said
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: for that. However... going from the paper to the field.
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: I don't think anybody can actually have that crystal ball
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: to see how it's going to manifest itself. And I
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: wonder how do we begin to actually assess that, you know,
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: assessing what is an amazing team on paper and why
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: that consistency just isn't there. It's a, it's mind boggling.
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: Now I'm going to say something controversial and people will
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: not believe me, but I honestly think that there is proof.
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: I believe that, There is something happening in the air,
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: in the area. There is a curse. There is something.
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: Maybe it's scientific. Maybe it's spiritual. I don't know. But
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: there's no reason for this to happen.
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: Luis Nariz comes to Philadelphia. Yeah. He's not bad, but
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: he just doesn't do what he's supposed to do.
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: Like there are memories of that from years and years.
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: Remember his Drupal Cabrera. He was amazing. Whatever year that was.
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: And then the Phillies traded for him and he stunk
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: straight up.
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: This happens. This happens all the time. And I don't
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: know if it's, I'll say, I have no idea if
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: it happens like this in other, you know, in other
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: cities to other teams, but it really feels endemic to
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: the Phillies. And like, it's, It's a question that none
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: of us can answer because it's really wild.
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: Exactly.
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: You know, it might be spiritual, it might be scientific.
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: It may just be the way the Phillies are. Yeah.
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: You know, you look at the Phillies long-term and they
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: have never been a team that has drafted well or
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: had a good farm system.
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: They just haven't. Like there's a tiny bit of time
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: where they drafted insanely well and had a bunch of
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: good players fall into their lap and they were good
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: enough players to take what they have and learn and
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: and make their way up and be superstar players. But
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: that not what is rarer than rare. Right.
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: Those days are gone. Those days are gone.
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: And the Phillies are just not been good enough there.
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: And I think eventually you have to say like, all right,
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: this is not our specialty. Yeah. We need to make
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: sure we need to strengthen this up as much as
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: we can, but we need to realize that this is
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: not our bread and butter. Yeah. And, unfortunately with just
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: signing players to come here and then inexplicably sucking, you know,
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: there isn't a thing you can do with that. Right.
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: You know, there, you know, every team has different tools
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: that they use to evaluate players before they come to
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: their city. But in reality, they all pretty much have
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: the same tools. There isn't one team that's doing a
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: ton better than everyone else. And so like you, there's
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: really no rhyme or reason to it. I would love
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: to find out why, you know, like Trey Turner is
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: like the worst guy ever.
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: No, it's like, I remember the day when, when we
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: all heard the announcement that he was going to be
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: a Philadelphia Philly. We're like, wow. And the, the amount
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: of years too. Wow. He's going to be on the
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: team for this long. Fantastic. This is great. Let's go. Yes,
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: let's go. And we know what it's been. And I
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: do wonder too, um, Whether it's something spiritual, whether it's
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: something in the air, whether it's something in the water
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: you were talking about. I wonder if it's this thing
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: where they know that they're supposed to be good. And
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: then they'll crap the bed and say, oh, we're not
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: really all that good, I guess. And then they'll have
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: a few outings where, wow, okay, yeah, we really are good.
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: And it's just the mental gymnastics, the sports psychology that...
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: I don't think it's enough do in terms of, you know,
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: national media, you know, sports psychology. And I think sports
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: psychology has really played a huge role in what the
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: Phillies have become and what they have not become either.
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: So I think it, I've been, I've been saying that
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: for years, actually. I don't think the Phillies take that
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: seriously enough and great. I don't know what they do
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: on the inside, but I also feel like they have
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: a bunch of guys who might be resistant to it. Yeah. Yeah. considering. Um,
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: and to me, that's like, this is a choice that
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: the organization has to make. Do we bend to the
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: will of our very famous, highly paid players, or do
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: we decide to do something for the best of the
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: betterment of the team? And these guys have to go
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: along because I'm your boss. And I say, so man, right.
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: So I would love it if they'd if they took
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: that more seriously, cause I think, you know, you see
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: the guy's expressions, you see how they act and that
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: is stuff that can be improved. Like I'd love to
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: know what the brewers do.
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: What do they do? Because they don't just, you know,
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: draft and sign players on an equilibrium. They're all different personalities.
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: So what do they do to keep spirits up, you know,
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: to keep mentally themselves in line enough so they don't
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: make eight billion mistakes on the field?
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: Exactly. Exactly. Well, look, folks, we are going to take
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: a break real quick and we get back. We're going
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: to assess some players in terms of, you know, what
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: they are going to perhaps look like. during a post season.
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: I don't, I dare to say run, but during this
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: upcoming post season. So we are going to take a break.
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: And when we come back, we got more Phillies talk
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: coming your way. All right. We're back with our good friend,
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: Liz Rocher from the hitting season podcast and get some,
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: get some promos out there where folks can find you
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: on the interwebs as well. And what, and what you're
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: doing online. Sure.
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: You can find me on Blue Sky at Liz Rocher, R-O-S-C-H-E-R.
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: I'm usually just angrily posting about the Phillies or the
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: world or whatever. Praising the authors that I work with
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: at Sabre, Society for American Baseball Research. I'm the editor
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: of the Baseball Research Journal. Um, if you are a member,
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: if you're not a member, um, you can come on
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: and read it on the Sabre site. You can contribute
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: an article, you know, I will tell you that you
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: have to become a Sabre member to contribute, but you
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: can contribute the article and get all sorts of feedback
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: from me and peer reviewers. It's a really fun process.
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: I love doing it. Um, I love reading all sorts
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: of stuff about baseball and, There is a shortage of
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: Phillies articles out there. Please give me your research, your excitement,
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: the things that you've thought about. I want to know.
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: There you go.
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: There have been a couple of good Phillies articles over
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: the past year, but I want more. I'm a homer
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: and would love to publish more Phillies articles than anything else.
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: You heard Liz, folks. You heard her. Get on it
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: right now. Get on it. Absolutely. And look, as we're
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: as we're talking about what this postseason may look like
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: for the Phillies here, Liz, you know, consistency of the offense,
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: I mean, is really going to be key. And we've
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: seen it in various spurts throughout the season with various
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: players where the consistency is there, and then sometimes it
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: goes away. But moving beyond Bryce Harper, moving beyond Kyle
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: Schwarber and their importance in terms of batting, I was
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: hoping we can get into some guys that we're going
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: to need to see more consistency from if the Phillies
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: are going to make any sort of run here. So
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: I'm wondering, what do we need to see from the
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: following players? I'd love to start off with Trey Turner.
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: What do we need to see from him in terms
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: of offensive consistency here?
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: He just needs to be better, man. He is not great.
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: I'm looking at his September stats. I pulled up the
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: September stats for him on game by game, and I'm
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: just looking at the whole month and he's hitting two 40.
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: Got to be better than two 40.
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: Exactly. And what's weird is he's been hitting around two
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: 40 the entire season.
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Like the whole, like he got his highs to
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: 60 and then like in early, like in April, it
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: was like two 94, but that doesn't even count.
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: But like, it's all been slowly, steadily just changing. like
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: crumbling to this one equilibrium place where he is it's
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: 240 like that is not good enough yeah it's just
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: straight up not good enough like i'm not going to
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: talk anything about his salary or whatever but for a
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: baseball player of his caliber of his years of what's
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: expected of him that's not good enough and i don't
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: know what to say to him other than stop sucking Yeah, absolutely.
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely.
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: Because, I mean, I don't know what it is with him.
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: He said it's the same tone. It's the same things
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: he says over and over. And like that is get angry.
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: This is just not good enough. Exactly. No one thinks
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: you care.
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: Exactly. We're not going to be given any more standing ovations. Right.
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: I mean, to get him where he needs to be.
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: Not at all. And like moving on, there's another guy who.
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: I think a lot of us had so much hope
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: for in terms of where his career trajectory may go.
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: And if he was going to be a long, long time, Philadelphia, Philly,
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: and we don't know if that's going to happen, but
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: Bryson Stott here, I mean, what do we need to
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: see from him in terms of, you know, consistency? If
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: this team's going to make.
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: A run, we need anything.
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: That's true. Yes.
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: We need anything over the last 18 games, which is,
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: you know, all of September and, He's, let me see,
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: 10 hits, three doubles, three stolen bases. He's the stolen
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: base king right now as far as success, but he's
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: been hitting 167 with an on base of 261. Those
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: are both 100 points off of where they should be.
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: His slugging is 217. That's not even a real number.
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: His slugging is 217. Over the last month.
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, over the last month. Let's see.
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: Over the last month. His slugging for the year is 387.
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: But for the last month, it's terrible.
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: Not good.
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah. we need so much more from him and he
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: just goes through it. Like he was, he had a
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: pretty decent, um, you know, pretty decent August. It wasn't terrible.
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: And I, what happens is it just disappears and it
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: goes away and you don't know when it's going to
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: come back out again. I mean, the good thing is
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: that he's been in sort of a slump long enough
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: that it makes sense that he could come out of
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: it just in time before the Phillies to be in
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: the playoffs. And I trust I trust that somewhat. Like,
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: I don't think it's 100 percent guaranteed to happen, but
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: I do have some faith in him.
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: I will.
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: Oh, I just. Bryson Stott's my favorite of the daycare.
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: I just I absolutely adore him.
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: Well, speaking of the daycare, there's another gentleman I want
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: to get into, and it's Alec Bohm.
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: And here's the thing. Yeah. Everyone dislikes Alec Boehm, but
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: I'm going to say he's been the best you could
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: find lately.
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely.
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: Alec Boehm, just again, looking at September stats, he's hit 339. Incredible.
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: In the last 18 games.
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: And we need to keep that going on. He needs
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: to keep that going on if this team is going
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: to have any sort of consistency over the course of
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: the postseason.
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And he's been, he's been good. building for longer
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: than that. Let's have a look. I've got his B
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: ref page up in front of me. Thank you to
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: the B ref team and Sean Foreman for everything they
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: do for us every day. Yes. He's been hitting three
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: 31 over the last two months. It's pretty crazy. 403.
• 43:10
  Speaker 3: Holy cow.
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: No one should say a bad word about this man.
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: Exactly.
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: He is doing everything he can.
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: He's got to keep it up.
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: I mean, exactly. He got himself into a hole early
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: in the season and, And he didn't help himself that
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: much in May. But since June, he's been steadily building.
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: And this is the guy that we need right now. Yep.
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: Because we can't just count on, you know, the big
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: guys doing what they need. We need some of these
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: guys that aren't like front and center.
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: To do the stuff that he's doing. Like seven, let's see,
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: over the last two months, 13 doubles, a triple, two
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: home runs, 29 RBI. Like, he even has a stolen base. Like,
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: where did that come from?
• 43:53
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: Absolutely. Well, moving along, the last guy I wanted to
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: mention here with this particular topic in terms of consistency
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: is none other than Brandon Marsh. He did hit a
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: home run recently, which was nice. Yeah. That was nice
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: to see, but we're going to need a little bit
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: more from him too. I mean, he's certainly not the
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: Brandon Marsh of May at all, but what are your
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: thoughts here on Brandon Marsh?
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Moving right on. Let's just skip him. I'm just sad.
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: He makes me sad. It's just sad. Like his, it's
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: really been September. He was all right. He wasn't amazing
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: in August, but September, whoof. He's hitting 163. Yeah. 163.
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: Not great. His on-base percentage is the same, 163. Wow.
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: I mean, his season average is down to 262. It's
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: just not– I don't know what happened to him, and
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: he doesn't know what happened to him either. Yeah. And
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: that makes me sad because we know what his ceiling is.
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: We know what he can do, and he knows what
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: he can do. But he just seems as lost as
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: everyone else as to why he's doing so badly, badly–
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: more badly than last year.
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely. This season– I was going to say it's
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: a tale of two halves this season.
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: This is a really down period for him at like
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: the worst time.
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. All right. Let's dive into the next
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: topic here, which is pitching. I want to get your
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: thoughts here because at the end of the day, it's
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: the pitching that's really going to put this team in
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: a good position down the stretch. Certainly has been that
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: way during the regular season. And that's likely what's going
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: to be happening during the postseason. Hedging our bets on
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: the pitching and. the top guys in this starting rotation.
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: So what is your confidence level, Liz, in terms of
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: what we're going to see from these guys, you know,
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: and their absolute, I don't even want to say relevance,
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: but the need for them to come through game after
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: game after game here. What's your thought?
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: I have confidence in the rotation. They've shown themselves to
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: be human over the past few months. And I think
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: that's fine. Yeah. Because if they had just continued to cruise,
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: it would be a little alarming as to what might
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: happen now. Yeah. But they've, you know, Christopher Sanchez, I
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: think allowed three runs recently. That's fine. You want it
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: to be less, but that's still a surmountable, you know,
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: it's a surmountable obstacle for the offense. Zach Wheeler last
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: night allowed three. Right.
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: Three runs.
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: And that was, again, they were able to not last
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: night was Sunday night. They allowed three runs and was
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: able to win. Yeah. And it was great. Yeah. You know,
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: that's the type of stuff we need from them. That's,
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: we know that they can do better than that, but
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: if this is how they do, the Phillies can and
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: should be able to get past that. And if they can't,
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: it's not the pitching's fault. Three runs is not too many.
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 46:57
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: Right. Absolutely. And boy, I guess, you know, before I
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: let you go here, I did want to touch on
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: the fact that, you know, this, you know, this may
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: be Don Mattingly's first postseason as a manager. And as
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: a result, you know, he's got some challenges ahead of
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: him as he specifically deals with a bullpen situation. that
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: has just been all over the place and a bullpen
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: that's been very disappointing. So they're going to be a
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: tricky aspect of this postseason for Don Mattingly. And I'm
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: wondering to close us out here, Liz, you know, how
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: aggressively does he need to manage the pitching as the
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: bullpen is certainly the weakest aspect of this team?
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: When you said Don Mattingly hasn't been to the playoffs yet,
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: I was like, that can't be true. he's been a
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: manager for 8 million years he's been a manager including
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: this year for 13 seasons and this is the first
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: time he's been to the playoffs and I think that
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: says quite a lot about him as a manager granted
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: he spent 7 years with the Marlins but they're bad
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: man they're bad then they're bad now he didn't really
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: materially improve them that much he needs to be someone
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: he's Not. Unfortunately, when it comes to bullpen management, he
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: loves to take guys that did decently one day and
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: be like, here, slot into this bullpen game today. Oh, wait,
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: you gave up two runs? Oh, no, I'm sorry, Tim Meza.
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: He loves to overuse guys in that way, and I
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: never thought I would long for Rob Thompson's bullpen management
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: because it did make a bit more sense. It was
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: overly cautious, but it made more sense than what Mattingly does. Yeah.
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: Because I don't know what he does and why. Right. I,
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: he just needs to be different. He needs to, I
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: don't know if other people are giving him different advice
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: or if the Phillies leave this to him, or if
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: they just say, think about this and this, I don't know. Oh,
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: but he needs so much more. It needs to be
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: so much better with bullpen management because this bullpen is
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: dancing on a knife's edge, man.
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely. That's a great way. That is a great
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: way to end this interview right here in this discussion. Absolutely.
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: They are dancing on a knife's edge for sure. Again, folks,
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: she is Liz Rocher, great friend of the show. Always
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: appreciate you taking the time. Again, folks, you can hear
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: her over at the Hidden Season podcast. Got a ton
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: of stuff going on. Search her out over on Blue
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: Sky as well. My friend, thank you so much for
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: taking the time to join us. Come back and we'll
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: talk more Phillies. We'll talk more baseball in the future.
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: I'd love to have you back on.
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: I would love to as well. We might be having
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: a big lockout coming up, so you're going to need
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: some baseball content, and I'm your girl.
• 49:45
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• 50:09
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• 50:12
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• 50:26
  Speaker 2: Thank you.