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Ranking Mobb Deep Albums · Hip-Hop Now Podcast

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  Speaker 2: Now Podcasts, another podcast specifically designed to keep you called
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  Speaker 2: You know, it's a bonus episode like we do. It's
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  Speaker 2: another ranking, y'all, another ranking of albums, a tear list,
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  Speaker 2: if you will. I've done a number of these over
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  Speaker 2: the course of a couple of years. So if there's
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  Speaker 2: albums missing from some of those videos, just know they
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  Speaker 2: were done a while back. And you can ask me
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  Speaker 2: in the comment section what I think about newer albums.
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  Speaker 2: But I've done Tearless, ghost Face, Ray Kwan, Daylon Soul,
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  Speaker 2: Method Men, Smith and Wesson recently. But today we are
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  Speaker 2: going to go over and cover one of the greatest
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  Speaker 2: hip hop groups of all time. Debate your mama. I
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  Speaker 2: didn't say the greatest, I just said, one of the
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  Speaker 2: greatest can't really be denied. But I'm talking about mobb
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  Speaker 2: Azy DC mob Deep straight out of Queen's Bridge Man.
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  Speaker 2: Definitely one of my favorite groups. Might be top five
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  Speaker 2: for me. But I'll explain a little bit later why
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  Speaker 2: I sound shaky on that.
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  Speaker 1: Shaky on that.
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  Speaker 2: Not that they shouldn't be, not that they shouldn't be
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  Speaker 2: in your top five, It's just that, you know what
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  Speaker 2: these tear lists are, these rankings that I do. I
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  Speaker 2: don't just go and gather all the album covers and
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  Speaker 2: hop in here and try to go off for memory
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  Speaker 2: and what I think and what I like and all
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  Speaker 2: of that. I go back and listen to all of
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  Speaker 2: the albums. So yes, I started at the first album,
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  Speaker 2: Juvenile Hell, all the way up to what I believe
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  Speaker 2: was their last official album on Gen Unit Records. So
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  Speaker 2: what it is. Looking at the screen.
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  Speaker 2: You know what it is that kind of does a
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  Speaker 2: little bit of justice. But maybe we changed the logo too,
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  Speaker 2: just to keep it abuck, you know, let's just keep
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  Speaker 2: it a buck to change the logo. But did the logo?
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  Speaker 2: Oh we didn't change yet. Boom, there we go. I
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  Speaker 2: don't think that looks better.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, so let's just go back to the way we
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  Speaker 1: had it. Okay, but you saw the thumb now, so.
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  Speaker 2: Again phantom mob Deep, leave your favorite records who you
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  Speaker 2: prefer out the crew? You feel Mob Deep top ten
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  Speaker 2: on time your favorite albums because we're getting ready to
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  Speaker 2: talk about it and not doing a bunch of mixtapes
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  Speaker 2: inside joints. The only one that I'm choosing to include
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  Speaker 2: in their catalog is Free Agents because it was an
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  Speaker 2: album that dropped when I think, what were they a
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  Speaker 2: loud basically in between their deals. But we'll talk about
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  Speaker 2: the album and definitely why I consider it a part
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  Speaker 2: of this lineas but let's start with Mob Deep's actual Well,
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  Speaker 2: first of all, what am I doing? Man, I'm messing up? Okay,
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  Speaker 2: you seeing the categories I gotta explain this to people
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  Speaker 2: because they don't know. So we going from the top
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  Speaker 2: being the greatest to whack. But because we're doing the
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  Speaker 2: tail list for Mob Deep, we had to give them
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  Speaker 2: different themes. Right, we're not putting goat and all that
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  Speaker 2: hot and mid and all. We ain't putting that trash there.
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  Speaker 2: This is how we're going to do it. A great album,
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  Speaker 2: a goat album, a classic. You speaking the thumb language,
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  Speaker 2: Philly done.
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  Speaker 1: A great album? How about that?
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  Speaker 2: A great album, not a classic, but a great album, infamous?
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  Speaker 2: How about that? A good album? And nothing wrong with
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  Speaker 2: a good album. You know, some good, some bad on there,
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  Speaker 2: but overall it's a good album.
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  Speaker 1: Mobb. That's what we're going with that category.
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  Speaker 2: Now we start to get to the point where it's like,
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  Speaker 2: it's cool, but I really don't like it, not that much.
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  Speaker 1: It's a couple of joints, it's three joints, but I.
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  Speaker 2: Really don't like it. Lift you off your feet like
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  Speaker 2: ski lifts. Okay, that's that category. In the last category,
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  Speaker 2: you don't want to be there because that just means
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  Speaker 2: it's trash. But in the essence of the thumb language,
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  Speaker 2: start punching ninjas in their face just for living, y'all
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  Speaker 2: could continue on Rest in Peace Prodigy. So there you
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  Speaker 2: have it. Those are categories from Hies the Lowest, and
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  Speaker 2: we're going to start with mob Leg's actual debut album
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  Speaker 2: entitled Juvenile Hell.
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  Speaker 1: When this album was released, yo, they were.
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  Speaker 2: Kids, they were teenagers, and on this album you could
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  Speaker 2: hear it. And one thing I'd like to point out
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  Speaker 2: is the fact that the sound of the music is
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  Speaker 2: nothing like the Infamous, nothing like anything infamous and forward,
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  Speaker 2: and that has a lot to do with the times
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  Speaker 2: right like around those times in hip hop. Let me
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  Speaker 2: make sure I officially get the date going right here
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  Speaker 2: on my phone, because I definitely don't want to miss
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  Speaker 2: quote anything.
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  Speaker 1: Real quick.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, I listened to Juvenile Hell in its entirety. I
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  Speaker 2: also bought the cassette back in the days, which is
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  Speaker 2: also crazy because I don't remember doing that, but I
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  Speaker 2: think I bought the cassette for Juvenile Hell after Infamous
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  Speaker 2: because I thought they were so dope that I was like, man,
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  Speaker 2: I must have missed something. Naw, I didn't miss anything.
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  Speaker 2: Juvenile Hell dropped in.
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  Speaker 1: Nineteen ninety three East Coast nineteen ninety.
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  Speaker 2: Three, versus when Infamous came out nineteen ninety five to
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  Speaker 2: totally different worlds Right ninety three. Sure, Mob Deep is
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  Speaker 2: dropping this album, but trip called Quest is on their
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  Speaker 2: second album, I mean not the second album, the third album,
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  Speaker 2: Midnight Marauders, dropping the same day as Wu Tang's debut
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  Speaker 2: group album. But the vibe on the East Coast was
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  Speaker 2: kind of rapping like this, like the songs I like,
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  Speaker 2: like the peer Pressure remix, Large Professor remix, like they
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  Speaker 2: rapping like you gotta deal with the pressure, Gotta got
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  Speaker 2: the deal with the pressure, gotta got it. It was
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  Speaker 2: it was the early nineties yard everybody was like routine
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  Speaker 2: and yeah it wasn't wasn't that great. But don't get
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  Speaker 2: me wrong, this album had a couple of joints on head,
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  Speaker 2: like hit It from the Back was cool, locked up
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  Speaker 2: a Sparford. Peer Pressure, like I said, hold Down the
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  Speaker 2: Fort was cool also, But in general at that time,
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  Speaker 2: there was just something about this album that wasn't good enough.
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  Speaker 1: So juvenile. Hell I lift you off your feet like
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  Speaker 1: ski lists, don't play with me. Okay, shorty, y'all too young, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: it was too young for the game.
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  Speaker 2: And I've said this on my podcast numerous times. That
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  Speaker 2: shout out to w NYC where I used.
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  Speaker 1: To work public radio.
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  Speaker 2: If you don't know, they, w w n y C
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  Speaker 2: Studios produced a podcast about Prodigy and the backdrop was
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  Speaker 2: about his health and living with sickle cell, but also
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  Speaker 2: they were telling his story and they had a lot
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  Speaker 2: of archive interviews and things like that from him. And
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  Speaker 2: one thing he said about the transition from their debut
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  Speaker 2: Juvenile Hell to their more album The Infamous, was that
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  Speaker 2: they made the record they made it reflected the times,
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  Speaker 2: but they didn't understand why it wasn't catching on in
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  Speaker 2: a way they thought it should. And then in nineteen
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  Speaker 2: ninety four they heard Ellmatic and they heard Nods and
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  Speaker 2: it was like, I see what we did wrong. So
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  Speaker 2: you come to their sophomore album, The Infamous, and this
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  Speaker 2: is the thumb language. You already knew, classic classic material,
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  Speaker 2: front to back, not one skip whatsoever, not on this one,
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  Speaker 2: not on this one, and you hear it. You hear
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  Speaker 2: the difference. Not only are they a little bit older, right,
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  Speaker 2: one album releasing in ninety three, the other one in
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  Speaker 2: nineteen ninety five, but you hear the growth. Some people
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  Speaker 2: don't grow in ten twenty years. Jim Jones did I
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  Speaker 2: say that some people don't. Some people don't look to
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  Speaker 2: grow and adapt. Well, let me take that back, Jim
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  Speaker 2: Jim Jones has improved as MC. But we you know
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  Speaker 2: what I mean, not Jimmy, y'all, y'all know what I mean.
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  Speaker 2: But I just look at it like it was so remarkable.
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  Speaker 2: It wasn't even like it was the same group, because
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  Speaker 2: I remember mobdep when they dropped Juvenile Held, But when
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  Speaker 2: they dropped The Infamous, I didn't realize it was the
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  Speaker 2: same young cats like at first, because I didn't their
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  Speaker 2: name didn't resonate because that first album didn't really do
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  Speaker 2: anything for me. So it was just like, oh, you know,
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  Speaker 2: another typical nineties you know, you know, they had low haircutts,
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  Speaker 2: almost like ball heads and all that. ONX remember ONX
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  Speaker 2: was hot around ninety three ish and all of that.
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  Speaker 2: So it was unremarkable to me though they were songs
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  Speaker 2: I kind of like, but it was whatever.
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  Speaker 1: But when The.
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  Speaker 2: Infamous dropped, forget about it, forget about a complete classic,
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  Speaker 2: y'all know the record Survival of the Fittest Shook one's
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  Speaker 2: part two. Everybody knows that give Up the Goods. Temperatures
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  Speaker 2: Rising is one of my favorite. I Love that Joint,
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  Speaker 2: Give Up the Goods featuring Big Noise. Big Noid had
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  Speaker 2: excellent performances on this album throughout Right Back at You
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  Speaker 2: with ghost Face and Ray Kwan. Remember the WU was
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  Speaker 2: just out not that long ago. Now here they are
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  Speaker 2: on this album. One of the greatest posse cuts of
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  Speaker 2: all time. I four and I Your Beef is Mine
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  Speaker 2: Dope track Mob Deep spits Nas probably has the standout
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  Speaker 2: performance a drug Dealer's dream Stash cream Keys on the
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  Speaker 2: Triple Bean Fire under this sl Green ninety five Nickel
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  Speaker 2: Glen Condominium Dove dressed like a gentleman tailor made Ostrich
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  Speaker 2: for Chanel.
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  Speaker 1: For my women friend. It's been a while, but.
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  Speaker 2: Just an excellent album and Q tip on the Alley
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  Speaker 2: you really helped have it. Get his production together, you know,
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  Speaker 2: especially the drums and drums on this album and the
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  Speaker 2: snaires they like they're sharp, especially temperatures rising. It's almost
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  Speaker 2: like two sharp. But again the infamous. You know it classic.
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  Speaker 2: But how do you follow up a classic?
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  Speaker 1: Right?
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  Speaker 2: You don't have a sophomore slum because your first album
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  Speaker 2: wasn't that great.
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  Speaker 1: But now Small Deep they're known, you follow it up
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  Speaker 1: with another classic.
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  Speaker 2: Hell on Earth dropped Wind the Hell on Earth drop
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  Speaker 2: nineteen ninety six.
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  Speaker 1: Next year, two classics in a row. You see what
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  Speaker 1: I'm talking about again, Juvenile Hell, even though it had
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  Speaker 1: some joints for the time, it was kind of misplaced
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  Speaker 1: because hip hop East Coat hip hop was shifting. Mob
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  Speaker 1: Deep was like, we're shifting too, and they dropped The
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  Speaker 1: Infamous and then Hell on Earth. Hell on Earth was
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  Speaker 1: an album that I.
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  Speaker 2: Wasn't able to get right away because I was in college.
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  Speaker 2: And excuse me, when I was in college, you know,
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  Speaker 2: that took away my like almost like weekly trip to
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  Speaker 2: the record store because I was doing all these things
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  Speaker 2: and you know, either you was taking a bus to
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  Speaker 2: a mall or getting a ride, or if there was
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  Speaker 2: a record store around, I don't know if they had
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  Speaker 2: it or their prices were high.
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  Speaker 1: It was just all these things.
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  Speaker 2: So I was listening, you know, I was in hustle
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  Speaker 2: and from other people and getting copies, and I remember
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  Speaker 2: when my sister bought the CD and that was the
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  Speaker 2: first time I gave it like a really good listen.
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  Speaker 2: What makes this album a classic is everything the Tupac
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  Speaker 2: Shots Rest in Peace, Tupac Prodigy, but Prodigy would drop
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  Speaker 2: a gem on them. I had the whole New York
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  Speaker 2: State aiming at your base, which you think you can't
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  Speaker 2: get bucked again once again.
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  Speaker 1: Back in the house.
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  Speaker 2: Havoc on the beats, This is like prime Havoc as
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  Speaker 2: far as being a producer and prime prodigy with the
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  Speaker 2: bars like so so many dope records, so many quotables
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  Speaker 2: on this whole album. I don't even talk like that.
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  Speaker 2: Talking about it gets me excited. So there are people
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  Speaker 2: who love The Infamous, and I'm one of them, but
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  Speaker 2: Hell on Earth was like like a really it was
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  Speaker 2: like a darker version of Mob deep, like we're made.
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  Speaker 2: We're no longer street soldiers. We made guys, now, Okay,
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  Speaker 2: That's what it felt like listening to this, And havoc
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  Speaker 2: sound was really refined on this album versus The Infamous,
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  Speaker 2: because if I was to describe what Havoc does best
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  Speaker 2: when it comes to Havoc's brand of boom back, he
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  Speaker 2: made beats that sound like horror movies but they hip hop,
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  Speaker 2: so they have a darkness to him. And you know,
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  Speaker 2: you kind of you kind of like not and like yeah,
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  Speaker 2: what we what we about to do?
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  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 2: And one of those records for me is like Godfather
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  Speaker 2: Part three, Like it's called Godfather Part Part three, but
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  Speaker 2: he actually sampled uh Scarface if I'm not mistaken, Yeah
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  Speaker 2: for that. But again, Method Man's on here, Ray Kwan's
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  Speaker 2: on here again, uh Nas and Big Nooid on give
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  Speaker 2: it Up, fast dope songs like still Shining.
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  Speaker 1: Just a really really really dope album.
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  Speaker 2: And again when you hear cats talk about the nineties
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  Speaker 2: and get excited because it was such a time where.
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  Speaker 1: Beats, rhyms rollouts, you know, even collaboration, everything was competitive
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  Speaker 1: and everybody was sharp lyrically. It was a special time
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  Speaker 1: and Mob Deep dropped two classics.
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  Speaker 2: Then after that they had a follow up and the
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  Speaker 2: tease to this well, for me personally, the situation with
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  Speaker 2: this album, which was their fourth album, Murder Music, was
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  Speaker 2: that you had heard that Prodigy was going solo first,
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  Speaker 2: and on one of the mixtapes, or probably several mixtapes,
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  Speaker 2: there was a song put out called quiet Storm and
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  Speaker 2: it was only Prodigy rapping. When I tell you, I
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  Speaker 2: know people love keep it thorough, But the original quiet
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  Speaker 2: Storm is the one that hands down, that's the one
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  Speaker 2: that's that's peak Prodigy.
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  Speaker 1: Doing what he does.
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  Speaker 2: When you open a record that says I put my
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  Speaker 2: lifetime in between the papers lines. I mean that in
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  Speaker 2: itself was like, oh oh, this isn't just shooting on
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  Speaker 2: the block. This is a man reflecting off of two classics.
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  Speaker 2: So Murder Music, which dropped in nineteen ninety nine, So
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  Speaker 2: they waited three years for this one because again it
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  Speaker 2: felt like there was a Prodigy solo coming. But what
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  Speaker 2: changed it, I think was the fact that that record
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  Speaker 2: was so dope. That beat sampling White Lines from I
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  Speaker 2: was gonna say, funk Masterflex Grandmaster Flash of the series
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  Speaker 2: five white Lines, sampling it in a way again have
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  Speaker 2: it with the dark, thoughtful, dangerous sounding beats, and then
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: the remix with Little Kim just brought it home and
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: it became a mole deep album. And I'm telling the
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: story like I know that's what happened, but that's how
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: it unfolded for me. So Murder Music not a classic
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: to me, but infamous.
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: I like it a lot. If someone said they had
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: three classics in.
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: The row, I would not argue to you, because I
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: think people love Hell on Earth so much that they
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: discount what's on Murder Music, And I think it has
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: to do with a pattern you're gonna see starting with
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: murder music of Mob Deep seeing commercial success on a
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: real level, right like Shook One's Part two was a
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: club banger. A couple of their records were club bangers,
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: but Quiet Storm Remix.
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: Was a club banger, but a couple of standout joints.
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: What's your Poison?
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: This was the first time when I was like, oh, Cormega,
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: I see why they That's what cor Mega could spit.
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: He got busy on that record. But then there are.
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: Other records that probably drove some people crazy and this
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: is why they don't like them.
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: But I thought most of it was cool.
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: Chinky's on the album eight Balls, on the album from
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: a Ball and MJG.
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: Not to say that they're not good.
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: I think there were just a lot of Mob fans
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: who are accustomed to them collaborating with certain emces. I
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: know some people are so thirsty to say, oh, just
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: New York MCEs. Obviously Mob Deep didn't having a discrimination
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: because of who they worked with, but I think some
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: people were just used to the Wu Tang collaborations, the
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: Queens Braids collaborations. The Queens like all of that, and
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: Mob Deep was spreading their wings because around this time
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: nineteen ninety nine, the game had changed drastically.
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: From nineteen ninety six, it was a.
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: Bad boy done ruled with the dancing and the shiny suits.
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: Rockefeller was following suit like.
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: It was like, you either got bangers for the clubs
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: or you don't. And I think this was their attempt
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: to do so. But I wasn't mad at most of it. Again,
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: Ray Kwan's on this album again, Chinky's on here twice.
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: That did that did surprise me? On a joint called
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: thug music. I like thug music. I like the beat,
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: I hate the hook.
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: Probably well.
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: NAS's on here obviously, Little Kim, But one of the
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: best features of.
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: All time on here is Kuji rap on the Realists.
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: If you haven't heard that ever, please go do yourself
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: a favor and go listen. You want to talk about
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: a dude who.
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: Is timeless, who is the father of Coke lap, It's
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: Cougie rap. Okay, uh So, moving on from that because
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: we don't want to spend too much time here to
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: an album that released two years later, Infamy and I'm
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: not gonna hold y'all. I'm not gonna hold y'all, but
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: this one is lift you off your feet like ski lifts?
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: Who am I kid? And this one is I'm gonna
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: start punching in their face just for living Now. I
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: know what you're saying, right, because I like them too.
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: I know what you're saying. I could point out Getaway
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: was a very dope record. Oh by the way, in
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: between this time, I believe Murder Music. Starting with Murder
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: Music Alchemists was like an official member of Mob Deep
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: producing beats and get Away was one of his, along
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: with the joint with Kuji Rap on Murder Music The Realists.
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: But I liked Getaway right. I liked the learning with
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: Big Noid. I thought that was dope. There were other
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: records I liked on here, but guess what infamy is
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: the album one they took that we have to make
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: club record. Its way too far considering the amount of
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: albums that had dropped before then that established the sound.
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: And I think this was where Mob Deep shifting backfire, right,
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: because remember with Juvenile Hell, they was like this ain't
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: really it, let's switch and then they dropped two classes
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: and a great album after that.
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: That's three.
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: That's three joints, you know, to basically let's put it
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: this way. You like three and one in the nineties,
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: and now it's the two thousands, and all these things
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: have happened. Pop Shot and killed Big Shot and killed
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: other rappers emerging like DMX again, Rockefeller, Eminem and fifty
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: cent and all of them around the corner. You know,
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: they're not dead there yet, but they around the corner.
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: So Mob Deep being teenagers in ninety three or like
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: you know, okay, well we're established.
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: But the other thing that happened, and.
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: This album didn't help, was that jay Z said I'll
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: kill you, I'll crush you.
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: What do he say, I'll crush you? Mother ants with
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: a sledgehammer, and.
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: He was talking about Mom Deep and he put Prodigy
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: up on a Summer Jam screen. He said, you was
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: a ballerina. I got the pictures that seen you at
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: Summer Jam. People went crazy. It wasn't a ballerina.
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: He obviously was in a dance studio his I think
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: his grandmother owned the dance studio. But it worked because quite.
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: Honestly, jay Z wasn't jay Z when he was a
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: kid either, like just because you dancing, like come on, man, But.
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: At the time he was a Ballerina. We were like, oh,
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: and what made it worse was this album should have
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: been hardcore mob deep, and it was trying to be
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: two step mob deep, and the records weren't hitting that.
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: Mob Deep's club hits were always the joints.
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: That were like the hardcore songs also, you know, but
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: it was a different time where some of that stuff
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: wasn't flying, you know, like christ Stone remix with Little
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: Kin was lightning in a bottle and this song had
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: I mean, this album had joints, right, like some people
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: like that joint with one twelve.
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: I think it's cool.
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: I think that's the only thing they should have made
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: like that because everything else kind of sound corny. And
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: then jay Z tried to make them look corny. And
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: what made it extra worse was we were used to
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: a certain level of rapping from Prodigy, and I was
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: waiting for the Prodigy response again on a Hell on Earth,
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: his response to had me like, whoa, this is a response.
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: His response to jay Z on Infamy was like, I
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: peel that fruit.
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: It just wasn't it, man, An album wasn't it. So
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: that's why it happened the way it happened. But then
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: after that I believe now I don't know, to be honest,
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: but oh okay, I'm getting ahead of myself. Don't forget
• 29:34
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• 29:36
  Speaker 2: you think about all these albums, the rankings, current rankings
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: that we're having here.
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: Put your rankings in the comment section. I want to
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: check them out.
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: But America's Nightmare dropped and I'm not gonna hold y'all
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: when it dropped again?
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: What year was that?
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: Two thousand and four, right, so a couple of years
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: after Infamy. At the time, I didn't really get to
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: hear the album. And again, I'm not trying to be
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: no hip hop snob, but I feel like a lot
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: of when a lot of my favorites had great albums
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: early on, I'm talking about even if you had a
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: handful of them, if a decade is probably passed, I
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: don't know if I'm checking for you in the same
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: ways now i'm checking for you. I'm just not like, mom,
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: let me go get it. Because Infamy left a bad
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: taste in my mouth. I was like, why would they
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: do that? America's Nightmare? I had to listen to it
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: in its entirety, probably maybe a decade ago for something else,
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: and I was like, it's not bad. This was a comeback.
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: So mbab America's Nightmare is a good album. It was
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: mob deep course correcting once again. Now they didn't course
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: correct into a classic, but it felt like what they do,
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: what they should be releasing. And I and I loved
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: a lot about it, Like winn a loss on head,
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: Come on, man, that record is dope. Another record I like.
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: That is the type of club banger I'm talking about.
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: It's got it twisted, That's what I'm talking about. My
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: d having verse on there. Crazy catch me in the
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: club with a double a benger. I'm the wrong one
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: with now I know the promoter. I'm in with the musket,
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: something weed and a pound of Dutchess high to the
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: coton mouth.
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: Make the wrong move and gass is that.
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: I'll mash you out. Have it got busy on that record,
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: I'm telling y'all. But again, there's a couple of joints
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: on here, like I like on the Run and like
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: we up real n words flood the block like I like.
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: I even like the Nate Dogg feature on here. But
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: now I don't like real gangsters with Little John. They
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: don't have nothing to do with Little John. But at
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: some point it was like Little John must have moved.
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: Into Queensbridge because between this and the Brave Heart song,
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: and I think the Brave Heart song with Little John
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: was a hit, it was just like, nah, man, why
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: are we doing this? Like while we doing this.
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: Collaborate with somebody who fits your style, so it sounds
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: like it works. But then also they did a guy
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: that twisted rebix with Twist, and that's dope. So that's
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: what I mean. Take the collaborations that work. Forget about
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: where people are from and all that stuff. If you
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: hear the music and you like YO, that mixes Mob
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: deeped and cool, all right, So there you have it.
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: I think America's nightmare is MLBB. And I know a
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: couple of Mob fans who never even got to that one,
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: and I was one of them at one point.
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: All right, two more so at this point I'm assuming
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: either Mob Deep's.
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: Contract was up or they got dropped. I don't know.
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: Leave the comments in the comments section below. But in
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: between looking for a new deal, and they've talked about
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: this in interviews. Before they got to G Unit, they
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: put out a project called Free Agents and I'm not
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: gonna hold you man.
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: This is infamous.
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: The album consists of I guess, a couple of Lucy's
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: it's a it was a double CD also, but a
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: couple of you know records that they had on the
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: cutting room floor, probably some new joints they made specifically
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: for this, and then a bunch of freestyles over their
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: old beats.
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: And it's just really good.
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: It's just really dope because it's like a side mission
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: from their album releases.
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: And sometimes side missions with artists don't be a good idea.
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: Sometimes it's a terrible idea. But with Mob Deep, it
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: fits right in line with what you expected from them,
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: especially when it came to infamy, right, Infamy was a disappointment,
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: like crazy, And again I said it before. Of course
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: there's joints on end some all times joints on end,
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: but it's like it's like a roller coaster, you know
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: it is it just hiss.
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: So there you have it. And then finally Mob Deep
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: got a deal, got some money. You know what I'm saying.
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: Fifty cent took care of them. Fifty cent was hot
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: at the time. Quick did I even say yes? In
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: two thousand and four, I believe Free Agents was two
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: thousand and five, But in two thousand and six, Mob
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: Deep dropped their Gen Unit album and what I consider
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: their final album because there's been mixtapes and lost and
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: founds and hits and misses and stuff like that. But
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: Blood Money dropped on G Unit Records.
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: I was hyped because I.
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: Just assumed, like, y'o, this is going to be crazy
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: because fifty know what Mob Deep is and he's not
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: going to try to change them, but he kind of did.
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: Now had me out. This album to me is that Mobbi.
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: But the reason why it can't get any higher and
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: it's kind of stuck there is because with the records
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: that are on this album, there's so many that are
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: so but it feels like Mob Deep did not belong
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: with G Unit or Gen Unit Records because the influence
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: is heavy. It felt like the majority of the beats
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: were beats.
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: That you know, Fifty and.
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: Banks and all of them were rapping over which were
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: dope beats because they knew how to pick beats. But
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: it wasn't Mob Deep. You know how I described Havoc's
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: production earlier. It wasn't enough of that. Now they did
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: have a record when it because it was one of
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: the first records I heard put them in their place
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: where I was like, yeah, it's Mob Deep. But when
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: the album dropped the G Unit feature. First of all,
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: fifty is on one, two, three, four, five songs, five
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: songs with fifty on it. Then Young Buckets on a
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: song that's only trash too give it to me, and
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: that doesn't everything we know now that whatever. Lloyd Banks
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: is on the record, but you know, Banks could could rap,
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: and he sounded like he would be on a g
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: and the joint again Tony yayo, that song wasn't bad.
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: And even in some of the fifty joints, like I
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: love Pearly Gates, the infamous, I think that's the record
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: where fifty got busy. Like then there's you know, Mary J.
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: Blige is on here, but that's not the biggest issue.
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: Nate Dogg's on here. I kind of don't like that record.
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: And then again, uh, really it's an album that's my
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: And this is the other thing.
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: I know. It's real quick.
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: It felt like previously Mob Deep records, the majority of
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: time almost always started with Prodigy rapping first and at
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: some point, and I didn't go back to the albums
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: to see if I would catch that past, but I
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: think it was there on some of those later albums
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: where Havoc was going first. Now to me, Haavoc got better.
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: He was better than Prodigy at some point as an
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: MC on these albums, right, it was like Prodigy lyrically peaked,
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: like after Murder Music, and then Havoc took over for
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: the other albums as the lead MC.
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: I told you that verse on God It Twisted is crazy.
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: But on this album it just felt like they didn't
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: belong over there. It felt like g Unit was a
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: thing that was happening and it had a specific sound
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: and even some of the hooks or like if you
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: take Havoc's voice out and you put Fifty's voice in there,
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: it sounds like gen Unit stuff. And I like g UNIT,
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: but I like g Unit for g Unit. Mob Deep
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: is different Mob Deep syncred.
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: Okay. So there you have it.
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: That is my ranking, just to recap. When it comes
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: to the classic section of Doune Language, their sophomore album,
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: The Infamous, their third album Hell on Earth, hands down
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: to me classics. Great albums from Mob Deep's collection that
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: I rate Infamous, Murder Music and The Double CD mixtape
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: kind of sort of free Agents.
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: Then two good albums in the catalog MBB.
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: That's the category, America's Nightmare and Blood Money. Regardless of
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: everything I said, the majority of is dope just doesn't
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: give you those Mob Deep vibes that you're accustomed to
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: on the previous albums. Juvenile Hell Mob Deep's actual first album,
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: It's not great. Probably got three or four decent songs
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: for the time, but you had to be there. You
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: listen to those songs. Now, after listening to all those
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: other albums, you're gonna be like, who is this? But
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: if you were there, you'd be like, nah, I remember
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: when they used to rap like that.
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: And lastly, Infamy right ironically in for Me, an.
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: Album that I was anticipating and it wound up being
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: the exact opposite of what I.
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: Thought it was gonna be. And the song Burned was
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: like Food's gold, Like you know what I'm saying, Like
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: they were tricking you, because when you're I heard burn
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: I'm like they back then I started hearing other records
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: like what's this? So there you have it. That's my
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: ranking again. Leave your comments in a convers section below.
• 40:44
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