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Joe Tacopina | Defense Attorney | 06-12-26 · Sid & Friends In The Morning

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  Speaker 2: Joseph Tacopina was just abroad. He was in Italy last week.
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  Speaker 2: His son's got a couple but wonderful Matthew got married,
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  Speaker 2: and Jojo looked really handsome and his tuxedo and matt
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  Speaker 2: looked great and his wipe is beautiful. But he's back
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  Speaker 2: in the States on this Friday morning, joining us for
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  Speaker 2: the second time this week. Joe Sop, good morning, how
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  Speaker 2: are you pal?
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  Speaker 3: I'm great, brother, I'm really great. That was insane the
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  Speaker 3: other night. That nickname was crazy?
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  Speaker 2: Was that nuts?
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  Speaker 3: I just I just I've never said honestly, and I'm
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  Speaker 3: not the biggest basketball fan. I mean I'm a sports fan,
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  Speaker 3: like you are a sports fan, and it's New York,
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  Speaker 3: so you know all New York teams who want to work.
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  Speaker 2: But I but I am a huge Knick fan. I'm like, right,
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  Speaker 2: I know you made this point before that you like,
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  Speaker 2: oh the sports better. I happened to be a huge
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  Speaker 2: Neck fan. But yes, but I.
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  Speaker 3: Mean I remember my dad used to take me Nick
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  Speaker 3: games when you know, uh like Bernard King was really
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  Speaker 3: a great player, and you know they had those those
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  Speaker 3: guys I used to love from the eighties and late seventies.
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  Speaker 3: So I have great experiences and memories from the Knicks.
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  Speaker 3: But it was unbelievable to see what I saw. That's
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  Speaker 3: the best team from a team standpoint, the Knicks have
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  Speaker 3: ever had, I think. And it was great seeing all
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  Speaker 3: my clients in that celebrity row. I mean I had like.
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  Speaker 2: Three or four four of them? Really? Yeah, I know
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  Speaker 2: you have Fat Joe your horse, you have Skinny jam
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  Speaker 2: who else?
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  Speaker 3: D Falco?
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  Speaker 2: Jay Z, Edie Falco's yours?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: Well, jay Z? We tell jay Z his hair looks ridiculous.
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  Speaker 2: Stop it. Why does you have to go like that?
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  Speaker 2: He looks ridiculous? Not I want you to tell him?
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  Speaker 2: Tell him? I said it, Why not? He looks ridiculous.
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  Speaker 2: He's not the best looking guy to begin with. I
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  Speaker 2: mean he's lucky. You got Beyonce has a lot of money, Bud.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, geez, give me a break. Who's the fourth one?
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  Speaker 2: Jay Z, Edie Falco, fat Joe, who else?
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  Speaker 3: Go lead? Did Khalid I've represented on something? Oh?
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  Speaker 2: Really?
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  Speaker 3: I don't. I mean he's not.
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  Speaker 2: He was there too though, was a d dad wasn't there?
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  Speaker 3: I was there? No? No, no, not So anyway.
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  Speaker 2: Who was your most Who would you say besides President Trump?
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  Speaker 2: Who you represented twice? And I'll say it again because
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  Speaker 2: people need to know this, including the president you want twice.
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  Speaker 2: Bottom line is Egene Carroll, Alvin Bragg. You did a
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  Speaker 2: great job excluding President Trump and me. Who is your
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  Speaker 2: most or who was or is your most famous client?
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  Speaker 3: Wow? So that's Michael Jackson.
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  Speaker 2: I guess, but you I thought Garri Gos had Jackson.
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  Speaker 3: No, Garrett got removed from the case Marktt he was on.
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  Speaker 3: I did the case of Tom Mezzerro.
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  Speaker 2: No kidding, I didn't even know you had Michael Jackson.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know Mizziro was the lead on that thing
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  Speaker 3: that was twenty years ago. But yes, Michael was my client.
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  Speaker 2: That's a big one. That's it. Oh you had Leo too,
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  Speaker 2: didn't you have Leo? No?
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  Speaker 3: No, I never had Leo. I mean I was consulting
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  Speaker 3: with Leo, but I never represented him. But you know
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  Speaker 3: a Rod, I.
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  Speaker 2: Guess Foxy browns.
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  Speaker 3: Foxy Brown, Meek Mill, I guess me.
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  Speaker 2: Meet Mill the kid that was in a Bronxtown, Broncado. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: how about this guy. You're a prosecutor, not a defense attorney. No,
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  Speaker 2: I know, how about this guy. You're a prosecutor because
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  Speaker 2: you were a baby at the time, not the defense
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  Speaker 2: attorney you are now. But how about sitting next to
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  Speaker 2: Bruce Color for John Gotti.
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  Speaker 3: Right exactly. Well, that's when I was a young lawyer,
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  Speaker 3: like interning, and then I was in the Drong Gotta trial,
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  Speaker 3: which was a telen experience, and that was that was wild.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, you know, apparently the jury was paid for,
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  Speaker 3: so I didn't know that, but I was like, oh,
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  Speaker 3: this is we keep winning.
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  Speaker 2: They were paid for. There were two things, so they
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  Speaker 2: were paid for and they were scared to death, let's
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  Speaker 2: be honest.
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  Speaker 3: Exactly, so you know, I mean I think going up there, right, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: He shopped big one, big one.
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  Speaker 3: Rihanna, Sean Hannity shown was my boy.
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  Speaker 2: I'm no kidding. Oh here's one boy, you ready, here's one.
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  Speaker 2: Don Imus he was next.
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  Speaker 3: I was about to mention, don you know how I
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  Speaker 3: not this. I just wanted my damn website to see.
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  Speaker 3: I don't remember these team so ims right, yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: you've had a lot of the Commanders. I guess they're not.
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  Speaker 2: Oh Daniel Schnyder, right, Snider and.
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  Speaker 3: I represented the team with Commanders. Yeah yeah, yeah. So
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  Speaker 3: it's been a few big one, big one. But they
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  Speaker 3: were all seem like celebrity rollers. Like I was like, Oh,
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  Speaker 3: that's my client, that's my clients.
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  Speaker 2: That that was cool.
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  Speaker 3: I had that invite from Pat Show that I turned
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  Speaker 3: down because I didn't want to feel like some idiot
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  Speaker 3: going there. I didn't belong, and you know, I sort
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  Speaker 3: of regretted a little bit.
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  Speaker 2: Nah, you did the right. It's sweet that you did that.
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  Speaker 2: But I look, look, I know you love New York
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  Speaker 2: sports and you enjoyed and reveled in it like we
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  Speaker 2: all did. But it's not your favorite sport. But but
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  Speaker 2: you love soccer or football as they call it in Europe.
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  Speaker 2: You won championships with your Italian team. The United States
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  Speaker 2: has the first game tonight. In fact, my buddy Brian
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  Speaker 2: Kilmeade is in Los Angeles as we speak. He's going
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  Speaker 2: to watch the US take on Paraguay. Will you watch
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  Speaker 2: that game tonight With a major amount of interest about
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  Speaker 2: World Cup soccer, I'm.
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  Speaker 3: Not Look, soccer is really not my thing. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: I'm a hockey, baseball, football, Okay, those are my sports. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I will watch Bestball. I love the the you know,
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  Speaker 3: I love March Madness, I really do. That's just there's
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  Speaker 3: something about that tournament that's amazing. But I do. Obviously,
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  Speaker 3: I've been in soccer, but it was more of a
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  Speaker 3: business thing for me than a labor of passion. But
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  Speaker 3: I will, of course anything, looks any New York team
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  Speaker 3: that's in the final, I'm mooving for. I'm rooting for
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  Speaker 3: the Knicks ferociously. So you know, the usas national team,
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  Speaker 3: of course, and honestly, I think this year, Look, the
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  Speaker 3: problem is, we seem to always come up short, right,
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  Speaker 3: but we have talent this year of a different type
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  Speaker 3: that we've ever had.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, because I can tell you this and you'll be impressed.
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  Speaker 2: I even know this, Okay, I think the most amount
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  Speaker 2: of players we ever had that played on top European
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  Speaker 2: teams on our US team was two. This year, Joseph,
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  Speaker 2: we've got eleven.
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  Speaker 3: No I know, and they're like major players. Eleven that
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  Speaker 3: steels a team, by the way, and we have a
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  Speaker 3: coach finally, who's one of the most accomplished club managers
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  Speaker 3: of our generation. He coached at Tottenham, he coached at
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  Speaker 3: Police and Ramona and Chelsea. Those are the three of
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  Speaker 3: the biggest teams in the world, not the three biggest
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  Speaker 3: teams in the world. Right, he's our coach. It's that
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  Speaker 3: Marizio Pochetinos, I mean, is a real, real, real coach.
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  Speaker 3: So this might be different. And look how great would
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  Speaker 3: it be to come off the gold medal, the Olympic
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  Speaker 3: gold medal from the men's hockey team, women's hockey team,
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  Speaker 3: and then go there and get this. Oh my god,
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  Speaker 3: it's just amazing, the huge, the huge Nicks. And I
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  Speaker 3: got to tell you something said, we've been with New Yorkers.
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  Speaker 3: You and I are are spotified. We are New Yorker,
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  Speaker 3: is right, I mean we just the star city. We
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  Speaker 3: love it. I have never seen the city come together,
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  Speaker 3: honestly about over a team like this, this Nick team.
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  Speaker 3: I've never seen it. It's like unifying the city. And
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  Speaker 3: you know, here's why people love sports. They don't love
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  Speaker 3: sports because they're games. They love sports because sports satisfy
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  Speaker 3: some of the deepest human needs. Belonging, purpose, hope, connection,
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  Speaker 3: and the thrill of sharing victories and heartbreaks with others.
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  Speaker 3: That's really what it is it helps us forget about
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  Speaker 3: all this stuff we deal with, especially in today's world.
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  Speaker 3: You know, the immersion that we're able to do for
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  Speaker 3: a couple of hours psychological there's actually psychologists called this blow.
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  Speaker 3: It's a state associated with like enjoyment and reduce stress.
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  Speaker 3: Sports does that for us. It also, you know, it
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  Speaker 3: does something. There's actually studies that show it creates healthy
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  Speaker 3: mental releases. So you know, men, we don't in society.
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  Speaker 3: It's not accept them for you and I to yell, celebrate, cry,
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  Speaker 3: feel intense emotion. Sports gives us permission to do all
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  Speaker 3: those things, and that emotional events can be surprisingly healthy.
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  Speaker 3: So it's what I'm seeing here is just amazing, and
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  Speaker 3: it gives us a tribe, it really does. You know,
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  Speaker 3: human beings are wired to belong to groups. We just are,
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  Speaker 3: whether it's the Knicks, the Mets, the Rangers. Identifying with
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  Speaker 3: the team creates a sense of community and shared identity,
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  Speaker 3: and you're seeing that livening color. And research shows that
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  Speaker 3: social connection is one of the strongest predictors of happiness.
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  Speaker 3: So it's amazing to see how happened.
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  Speaker 2: Just talking to the most famous de pens Atoni in
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  Speaker 2: the country, who literally front of my eyes turned into
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  Speaker 2: doctor Phil.
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  Speaker 3: No. I just I'm fascinated by this stuff I read.
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  Speaker 2: No, it's true.
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  Speaker 3: True. Part of what I do is I have to
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  Speaker 3: understand the human psychology and I have to understand the mind,
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  Speaker 3: and so like these connections are are are something to
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  Speaker 3: me that are phenomenal to watch. And then can I
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  Speaker 3: say except the idiots who ruin it, you know, wild
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  Speaker 3: being and fighting with cops. I mean that who are there?
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  Speaker 3: They couldn't care less about the New York Knicks. They
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  Speaker 3: wear a jersey that they don't even know who the
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  Speaker 3: player is.
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  Speaker 2: Well, that's what I was young the other day with
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  Speaker 2: Steve and they smit, I'm like, Steve, Yeah, and then
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  Speaker 2: you get and the mayor. The mayor is one of
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  Speaker 2: those guys. Listen, I had so much glee. You know
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  Speaker 2: you've been on this show twice this week. You're one
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  Speaker 2: of two people I bought on twice this week, just
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  Speaker 2: so you know. The other is Craig Carton from WF Band,
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  Speaker 2: who I love. He's the after a host boy. Craig
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  Speaker 2: is great and Craig interviewed James Dolan two days ago
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  Speaker 2: on the band and Dolan actually said with Craig Carton
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  Speaker 2: on the air. They got a huge audience. Ma'm Donnie's
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  Speaker 2: not a Nick fan. I've been saying that since the
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  Speaker 2: Hawks series about Mom Donnie and hokal phonies liars. To
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  Speaker 2: hear Dolan say that made me so happy. So not
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  Speaker 2: only are the kids in the street wearing their Nick
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  Speaker 2: jersey's hanging off lampos and fighting with cops liars, so's
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  Speaker 2: the mayor, so is the governor. They're all lying frauds.
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  Speaker 3: Oh I full fans again. You know when I see
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  Speaker 3: them at the arena swooping it up like they're or
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  Speaker 3: that are like pifelong Nick Dant, it makes me laugh.
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  Speaker 3: It makes me laugh. But it's politics, and they're so
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  Speaker 3: phony and and and that's you know, that's unfortunately, that's
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  Speaker 3: that's who they are. There's nothing, nothing about them that's redeeming,
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  Speaker 3: quite frankly, opinion, nothing step just another step, right, So
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  Speaker 3: it's like another reason not like this guy anymore an one.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, there'll be something else, no question about it.
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  Speaker 2: You're talking about people that are not very likable. Jeffrey Epstein.
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  Speaker 2: Nobody likes him to every every decent person thinks he
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  Speaker 2: is the devil. He was, I mean, the scumbag with
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  Speaker 2: a capital s, you know, and people, you know, I
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  Speaker 2: get called the pedophile every day on Twitter every day.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not exaggering, Joseph, because I'm friends with Trump, so
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  Speaker 2: the Trump detractors they call him Pedro Trump, petal Trump.
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  Speaker 2: So now I get called a pedoppile, which is really
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  Speaker 2: gross and discussing and ridiculous every day. And then people
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  Speaker 2: want to know why I know it is. I know, well,
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  Speaker 2: I know we will talk one day, but then people
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  Speaker 2: want to know why I'm turned off about the whole
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  Speaker 2: Epstein thing. It's not because I don't want people to
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  Speaker 2: pay the price. It's because they lose control. They don't
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  Speaker 2: know how to how to you know, how to attack
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  Speaker 2: the actual story, and innocent people get thrown into this
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  Speaker 2: huge bonfire. But I know Bill Gates, he spoke on
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  Speaker 2: Capitol Hill this week that bringing Dershowitz back, what do
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  Speaker 2: they expect to accomplish here? I'm just curious, do you know.
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  Speaker 3: This is the this is the house oversights for me, right,
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  Speaker 3: and it's continuing to take testimony from people connected to
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  Speaker 3: Epstein's orbit, which is right. I mean, you know there
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  Speaker 3: are people who knew Epstein maybe were friends who don't
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  Speaker 3: the business does not mean they were pedophiles. Okay, cos
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  Speaker 3: us you know a pedophile or associated with a pedophile,
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  Speaker 3: doesn't mean he knew his deep talk secrets. Doesn't mean
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  Speaker 3: you were a pedophile, right, And that's why I hate
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  Speaker 3: that broad brush stuff. I really I can't I despise it. So,
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  Speaker 3: you know, Bill Gates, you know, testified yesterday, you know,
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  Speaker 3: or recordingly. He acknowledged that he knew Epstein at a
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  Speaker 3: prior sex crime conviction, but said his interactions were tied
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  Speaker 3: to a fundraising efforts to the Gates Foundation and that
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  Speaker 3: the continuing relationship was a banded mistake. He said it
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  Speaker 3: was a great error in judgment because he knew about
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  Speaker 3: his prior sex times condition. Dershwitch is going to go again.
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  Speaker 3: I think there's some others, like former executives, said Leslie Groff.
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  Speaker 3: Is gonna has already been interviewed. I think she might
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  Speaker 3: be coming back. I don't know. You know, they say
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  Speaker 3: they're examining both Epstein crowds and how government agent has
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  Speaker 3: handled the lated investigations directors because he did get away
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  Speaker 3: with it, he really did. Oh yeah, no, the the
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  Speaker 3: rout question.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, So do you do you think most they say
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  Speaker 2: he got away with it. I mean he did, but
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  Speaker 2: eventually for a long time. No, for a long time.
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  Speaker 2: Do you think that he was murdered or he killed himself?
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  Speaker 3: No, God, he killed himself. Said, you understand the amount
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  Speaker 3: of people that would have to be involved in a murder.
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  Speaker 2: Not many? Three about three in a jail that time
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  Speaker 2: of night. About three two guys got to look the
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  Speaker 2: other way, and one animal who beat him up one
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  Speaker 2: other time. By the way, how to come downstairs and
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  Speaker 2: kill him?
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  Speaker 3: Not that hard, really, really, it is very hard because
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  Speaker 3: other people wouldn't know about it. It's not three. There
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  Speaker 3: are cameras all over that place. That nober one in
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  Speaker 3: his cell was you know, turned off, it wasn't working whatever.
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  Speaker 2: Why was that?
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  Speaker 3: Now?
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  Speaker 2: Why was that it was turned off?
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  Speaker 3: You're talking about several officers who would be literally for
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  Speaker 3: what reason. There's no evidence that anyone got money. There's
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  Speaker 3: no one gotten rich.
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  Speaker 2: They'd look, we don't know, we don't, but we don't know.
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  Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, they looked at everything. I mean
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  Speaker 3: Bill Clinton, correction officer, every correction officer in that facility.
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  Speaker 3: It's anything different happened in their life. If there was
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  Speaker 3: any money coming in. There's zero evidence. So they would
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  Speaker 3: have to be committing a crime that will put them
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  Speaker 3: in jeff for the rest of their lives, right, okay,
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  Speaker 3: lose their jobs? Why why? I mean so, I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: But he was murdered. I don't know. I don't have
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  Speaker 2: none of these answers. But he was murdered.
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  Speaker 3: He just give me one piece of evidence that he
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  Speaker 3: was murdered, just one sif one?
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  Speaker 2: Well, he had marks, he had he had certain marks
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  Speaker 2: on his body that was not does does not does
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  Speaker 2: not cooperate with the with the suicide he was It
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  Speaker 2: was the other marks on his body.
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  Speaker 3: You know, you don't believe what you're saying, right, you
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  Speaker 3: know I do.
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  Speaker 2: He was murdered. No, no, no, And you know I
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  Speaker 2: was murdered. Aaron Hennandaz murdered too.
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  Speaker 3: He was murdered too. He wasn't Aaron Hernandez. About Charlie Kirk.
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  Speaker 3: Was he murdered?
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  Speaker 2: Well, that was obviously saw it happened right in one
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  Speaker 2: of our eyes. So you wanted Charlie Kirk, by the way,
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  Speaker 2: who wanted Charlie Kirk? Tyler Robinson?
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  Speaker 3: Is that it? No one else?
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  Speaker 2: Well, I don't know Lee Harvey Oswald is dead. Are
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  Speaker 2: you telling me that there's a there's a there's a
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  Speaker 2: whole conspiracy theory about that too.
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  Speaker 3: Charlie Kirk. There's a big one. I mean, there's a
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  Speaker 3: lot of things that don't match up in that one, brother,
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  Speaker 3: I mean, the trajectory of the bullet, where it came,
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  Speaker 3: were it at.
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  Speaker 2: The So what do you want? I wasn't. I'm fascinated
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  Speaker 2: about this. What do you think happened? Then?
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  Speaker 3: See this one? I even I'm seriously I'm repulsed by
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  Speaker 3: conspiracy theorists. I really too. At this time. I want
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  Speaker 3: to see more. I want to see more. There's something
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  Speaker 3: wrong with that, Charlie Kirk murder. There really is. His
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  Speaker 3: security guards actions were weird. They were signaling right before
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  Speaker 3: his bullet. They were signaling. I mean this, Look, I've
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  Speaker 3: been a homicide prospers, I've done these things. I've looked.
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  Speaker 3: I've really studied this because I'm fascinated by it, because
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  Speaker 3: I loved that guy. I thought he was one of
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  Speaker 3: the most brilliant people I've ever ever seen. He was
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  Speaker 3: an incredible order and he was a debater that I mean, honestly,
• 15:13
  Speaker 3: I think I'm a great debater. He would eat my lunch.
• 15:15
  Speaker 3: He is just so he was so good, so talented
• 15:18
  Speaker 3: and had and he was such a he was such
• 15:20
  Speaker 3: a goodness in him, like as a person, he would
• 15:24
  Speaker 3: he would holler at anyone's insults and he was you know,
• 15:27
  Speaker 3: he was. But he was so smart and and it's
• 15:29
  Speaker 3: we lost someone that would have really had an influence
• 15:31
  Speaker 3: in this country. I believe a good influence. And I
• 15:34
  Speaker 3: just don't know. But you know, there were people saying,
• 15:36
  Speaker 3: I'm not I'm not subscribed to any theories. But he
• 15:39
  Speaker 3: was very, very anti ran. He was he thought, you know,
• 15:44
  Speaker 3: Israel had a little too much power of us. People
• 15:46
  Speaker 3: are saying, perhaps you know he was murdered because of
• 15:49
  Speaker 3: his positions on Israel. Yeah, I don't know. I don't
• 15:53
  Speaker 3: like what I saw though. That bullet doesn't seem like
• 15:55
  Speaker 3: it came from the way it hit him and entered exisiting,
• 15:58
  Speaker 3: doesn't seem like it came from where that actually was on.
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: So you're thinking the murderer was closer.
• 16:02
  Speaker 3: Than that, Yeah, or that microphone was detonated. Wow, I'll
• 16:08
  Speaker 3: get show you some things did probably seriously, I'm not looking.
• 16:11
  Speaker 3: I'm not saying it happened I just said, it needs
• 16:13
  Speaker 3: to be a hard look at it, a hard look.
• 16:16
  Speaker 3: And you know that guy, a former ranger, I forget
• 16:18
  Speaker 3: his name, that was just recently let's throw a fire resigned,
• 16:22
  Speaker 3: you know, and I know that he's got some issues.
• 16:23
  Speaker 3: I forget his name, but he was the one who
• 16:26
  Speaker 3: was calling for Justice Department. You know, he was in
• 16:28
  Speaker 3: in Trump's administration. He was calling from the Justice Department
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: to investigate that, and you know he got turned down.
• 16:34
  Speaker 3: So I don't know, I'm not comfortable with.
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: Well, let me ask you this. If you think that
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: was there's some conspiracy there that makes sense there And
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: I'm not saying you're crazy, I mean you are, but
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: what do you think about the kid that was able
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: to climb a roof in plain sight in Butler, Pennsylvania
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: and nearly assassinate the president? That made sense to you?
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: Did it make sense? It showed there was serious security lapses.
• 16:59
  Speaker 3: I don't think that was I don't think that was anything.
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: You're just chalking that up to those officers that day
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: being inept.
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: Here us that I hate calling officers in. The guy
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: was on a roof, he was just missed. He was
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: just what missed?
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: Did the guy put a ladder up and climb the roof.
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: He was missed.
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: Do you think then they were inapt? I love officers
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: as much as you do. Then they were INAPT.
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: Okay they If that's the case, they were then, But
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: you can secret service officers knew there was an assassin
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: going up on a roof.
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: It doesn't matter. That's the only place that was elevated,
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: anyone near the president of the United States. What do
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: you think those guys were doing there? They are like
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: ten guys right there, right there.
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: I know, But but do you subscribe to his conspiracy
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: theory on that?
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: I don't know anymore?
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: I know, I don't know.
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: I mean to be honest, I hate I hate conspiracy
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: theories like you. I hate it.
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: You still have people telling me that those planes never
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: hit the buildings on nine to eleven. I want to
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: I want to strangle those people.
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: Happened right right, idiots? That's stupid, stupid. I was about
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: the person you're I'm sorry, that's stupid stuff. That's stupid stuff.
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: That really is that's repulsively unintelligent word.
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: I agree, I agree, But people are crazy.
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: There are people that say that Jeff Heemstein going back
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: to the Emperor a second is literally alive that the
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: Masade got him out of there, and he's walking the
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: streets of tell Aviv.
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: You know that, right, right, Yeah, Hitler was alive in Argentina, right,
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: Elis was alive. I know. But that's again, there's a
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: people who are sick, the sick people.
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: These are stupid people.
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: Let me get to what Iran, you've been right from
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: the beginning. You're an attorney, but you've got army experience.
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: And I always have to preface the conversation by telling
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: people that you're in Germany and all over Europe hanging
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: out with big time generals, and you're not just some
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: lawyer on Park Avenue with an opinion.
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: I'm not gonna mention names, but you do know what
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: you're talking about. And you told me, oh my god,
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: over a month ago. Let's put it this way, without
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: blowing your cover, what you told me. You've been one
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: hundred not ninety nine, one hundred percent right about So
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: I don't like this deal. To me, this deal and
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: I love Trump will be no better than Obama and Kerry.
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: No matter what he says, it's the same deal. And
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: it could be just as bad because once again, somewhere
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: in this deal, Iran is going to get money. And
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: as I said all morning long, they're not going to
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: build schools or hospitals. They'll continue, no matter what they
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: signed to Trump to build their nuclear program. They will
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: continue to get money to their terror proxies. There is
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: no deal to be made with these people. What am
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: I missing?
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: Which is why the President initially said there will never
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: be a deal. It's unconditional surrender or nothing. There will
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: never be a deal. That was you remember that early
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: truth social post. Right. The problem with the present on
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: this stuff here is and you know, I'm with you
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: on how you support him and all that, and just
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: a problem with this I think he's just getting bad
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: advice from his people, is that he's been making too
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: many proclamations that turn out not to be accurate. Or
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: you know, we won the war and we're still fighting.
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: We won the war and then there's a ceasefire, and
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: there's a ceasefire and then we're bombing. It's just and
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: now this deal, now, this deal, this deal cannot be
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: worse than the Obama deal because this will be this
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: will destroy him, right, it will destroy him. So you know,
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: before this war, Iran didn't control the straight before Moots.
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: Now it does. Iran's royal was sanctioned, now it's not.
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: The US bases in the Gulf were assets. Now they're
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: liabilities and they're decimated. Inflation was declining, now it was increasing.
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: You know, Iran was really supposedly not building nuclear bombs
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: before the war because we obliterated them west Fall. Now
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: it will. So this deal better be something special because
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: if not, we spent trillions of dollars. God knows how
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: much money, lost lives, American lives, you know, lost children's life.
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: I was in Iran. There's something that's not gonna be
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: any better or perhaps worse than the Obama deal.
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: That would be bad, but that's what it's gonna be.
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: But that's what it's gonna be. What do you what
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: do you think of possibly?
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: I'm with you, Yeah, I'm with you. I mean, where
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: is such a quagmire? We're in a trap right now?
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: And and so you know, when I hear this pronouncement yesterday,
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: we're not gonna bomb them today, Wednesday there was the
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: you know, or Tuesday night, it was tomorrow, we're gonna
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: bomb the hell out of them and all this stuff.
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: We can't bomb them Saturday because the Nix are playing.
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: So when Whensday we're gonna bomb them. Then Thursdays is
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: announced on the deal. Now. I read very carefully through
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: the quote and it says that discussions and final points
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: have been in both concepts and great detail of crew
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: by all parties including the United States, Israel, Saturday, Ray
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: there U a guitar Perky Pat the stand by ran Kuwait, Jordan,
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: Egypt and others. What name is missing? Said get on?
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, right, could say you haven't agree to anything.
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: They're like that.
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: I have heard peep from them yet?
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I have, no, I have not. Only are
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: they not agreed to it? Joseph on the contrary, they said,
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: we don't agree. How about that?
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: Well, then see we're gonna look again, we're gonna look
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: stupid and again we're gonna lose credibility.
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: Oh let me make sure that show. No, am, I
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: am I And I thought I heard you say this
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: morning that the United States is saying Iran has agreed
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: to this. Is it that we haven't heard from Iran
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: or have they said that? No, we're not. We haven't
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: agreed to anything.
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: Well, it was the president that said that there was
• 22:30
  Speaker 4: some sort of preliminary agreement and that would be done
• 22:32
  Speaker 4: by the weekend.
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: And then Tehran this morning said no, that's not the case. Okay,
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: they did say it. Yeah, there you go, Joseph, there
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: you go.
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: See. Now I didn't even hear that. I just heard silence, right,
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: I just heard silence. I showed the president's statement about
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: naming basically almost all those countries, like nine different countries
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: who agreed to it, and didn't see that the country
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: Iran in that statement. And now, based on what I
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: just heard from you guys, they've actually denounced it, saying
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: that's not true. So now why do we go back?
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: And by I got news for you. I'm not even
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: sure Israel, you know, I mean, the last country that
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: wants Iran getting money after what they've been through between
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: the Hutis and Chris Pola and Hamas is Israel. So
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: I'm not even sure bb is thrilled about it. I'm
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: really not.
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: Again, I'll say that we've been saying this from the beginning.
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: It's a mess.
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: It's a mess.
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and then you know we eat that pool, finish
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: this damn job, no do go show who the American
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: military is.
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: Damn right, stick it up their ass, That's what I'm saying.
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: Or take a damn meet and let's get We're not.
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: Taking a knee because stick it up their ass. That's
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: that's my political commentary. What a great segment. I gotta
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: tell you, Joe every Friday, you really are great. That
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: was a really great segment. I love you. Thank you
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: so much to have a great weekend. The great Joseph
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: Takapina right there.
• 23:49
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