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"Biggest copper opportunity I've seen in 25 years," says Coppernico Metals CEO Ivan Bebek · Financial Survival Network

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  Speaker 1: We think this next phase of drilling, based on the
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  Speaker 1: knowledge of what we have and the way the targets
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  Speaker 1: are shaping out and some of the trenching that we're doing,
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  Speaker 1: we think it's going to really give us incredible opportunities,
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  Speaker 1: not just on probability for potential discovery, but it's going
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  Speaker 1: to give us scale, the scale that everybody likes with
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  Speaker 1: this area. We've spoken to Samalis recently and we've shown
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  Speaker 1: them these targets and we've shown what we're learning about
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  Speaker 1: the project, and.
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  Speaker 2: They love it.
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  Speaker 1: They have not changed their appeal to it. We haven't
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  Speaker 1: changed ours. Everybody on the team is very excited about it.
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  Speaker 3: The Financial Survival Network now more than ever, the Financial
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  Speaker 3: Survival Network.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome. This is Financial Survival Network. I'm your host, Carrie Lutt.
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  Speaker 2: We're sitting down with Ivan Beebeck, CEO of Copernico Metals
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  Speaker 2: for a major sponsor update. I haven't great to see you.
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  Speaker 1: Hey.
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  Speaker 2: First, I know there's a lot going on with company.
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  Speaker 2: Everyone's watching the metals price. This is gold, copper, even
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  Speaker 2: silver kicking in till today thinking wow, this is the
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  Speaker 2: big move. It's happening. Now. What's your take?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, it certainly started you know, my take is
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  Speaker 1: being twenty five years in the business, going through you know,
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  Speaker 1: the two thousand era with the dot com run in tech,
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  Speaker 1: and then watching it transition back to mining and metals
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  Speaker 1: and that run that went through twenty twelve, and then
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  Speaker 1: seeing things like the eight events, and we all know
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  Speaker 1: there's considerable debt and some tariffs that are affecting a
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  Speaker 1: lot of things around the world. The improved metal prices
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  Speaker 1: is the first major box that we should all be
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  Speaker 1: excited about because that's going to start to affect from
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  Speaker 1: the top down some of the largest companies. We're seeing
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  Speaker 1: companies like Agnacal Ego hitting record prices at all highs.
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  Speaker 1: On the gold side, we haven't seen a big move
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  Speaker 1: yet in the copper companies, but the copper price has
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  Speaker 1: recently come off three ninety a pound in December and
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  Speaker 1: it's pushing, you know, in the futures through five dollars
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  Speaker 1: a pound. You know, my view is the cycle is
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  Speaker 1: turning slower than everyone is anticipating, but it's turning bigger
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  Speaker 1: than we've ever seen before in terms of the bull
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  Speaker 1: market that we're headed towards. In terms of equities, there's
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  Speaker 1: definitely a global issue with commodities, and copper is one
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  Speaker 1: of the main critical metals, not just becoming recently one
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  Speaker 1: in the US, but with China and everyone else in
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  Speaker 1: the electrification of the planet. My view with the economy
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  Speaker 1: is there is some concerns of a recession that is
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  Speaker 1: anti or counter copper. The tariffs did put a premium
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  Speaker 1: on US copper versus lame copper, which is trading less
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  Speaker 1: per ton than US copper. So we're just going to
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  Speaker 1: get through this first wave of the new administration as
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  Speaker 1: these tariffs take their place, and you know, no matter
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  Speaker 1: how the rules change or what's happening, it doesn't make
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  Speaker 1: it easier to find major copper supply or copper deposits.
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  Speaker 1: And that's there's going to always be that challenge, which
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  Speaker 1: is perfect for US as looking for copper. As copper
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  Speaker 1: prices are anticipated to a rise. You know what I'm
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  Speaker 1: really encouraged by is each quarter of high copper prices
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  Speaker 1: will really improve the bottom line on the larger companies
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  Speaker 1: and the producers. You're seeing debt get cleaned up, you're
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  Speaker 1: seeing share buybacks with some of them. You're seeing all
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  Speaker 1: the things that are notoriously you know, consistent with the
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  Speaker 1: start of previous bull market, so I think we're absolutely there.
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  Speaker 1: The challenge isn't copper, it's quality copper. I think there's
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  Speaker 1: plenty of low grade copper in the world, but it's
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  Speaker 1: a time time crunch. How long will it take to
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  Speaker 1: get the low grade copper or these you know, to
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  Speaker 1: build new minds and get that copper supply to match
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  Speaker 1: the demand. And that's really what's going to drive the
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  Speaker 1: copper price here in the next few years to come.
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  Speaker 1: As an explorer, you know, you have to be careful
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  Speaker 1: here because copper exploration is very capital intensive. It requires
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  Speaker 1: quite a bit more drilling the most goal discoveries to
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  Speaker 1: really get that return for shareholders, and the bigger you swing,
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  Speaker 1: the more expensive it is. So in the case of Copernico,
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  Speaker 1: we are in a tremendous position financially, we have capital.
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  Speaker 1: Into the middle of next year, we're finishing our first
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  Speaker 1: twenty holes and starting to really understand the major opportunity
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  Speaker 1: we signed up for, which is to go find a
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  Speaker 1: tier one copper discovery, something to make a potential to
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  Speaker 1: make the top ten or twenty copper minds in the world.
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  Speaker 1: There was shortage is in the front of us. So
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  Speaker 1: as an equity investor. I'm not worried about the share price.
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  Speaker 1: I can't control that in in a soft equity market
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  Speaker 1: for copper or metal stocks, but I am extremely, extremely
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  Speaker 1: aggressive with strategy and building the fundamentals so that when
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  Speaker 1: that market catches up and when we can reevaluate and
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  Speaker 1: rerate with a better copper equity market, we have some
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  Speaker 1: of the best things to drill in the world, and
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  Speaker 1: that's what we're working to.
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  Speaker 2: Warrants on that note, So what's happening right now? I
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  Speaker 2: understand you drilled twenty holes. Yeah, we drilled twenty holes.
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  Speaker 2: This was our first look.
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  Speaker 1: We had a polygon that was designed back in twenty
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  Speaker 1: eighteen nineteen, and these holes we had some hit great hits,
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  Speaker 1: like nineteen meters of half a percent that's missing with
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  Speaker 1: but we drilled a lot of i'll call it in
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  Speaker 1: Layman's term, smoke, and we're seeing a lot of vectoring
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  Speaker 1: that's taken us outside our polygon. There's an area on
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  Speaker 1: the property called Firasso which has eight historical holes underneath
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  Speaker 1: a substantial trench. They certainly confirm the third dimension and
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  Speaker 1: it's a deposit expanding target. It's our best target on
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  Speaker 1: the entire property. It's kind of what drove us for
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  Speaker 1: the nine year way to bring this project online. We
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  Speaker 1: are working and making advancements towards the permits to get
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  Speaker 1: access to that area, and we would expect updates on
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  Speaker 1: that sometime soon, probably in the middle of the year
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  Speaker 1: here going into the summer. And a second to that,
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  Speaker 1: we are also trenching and we're processing the data. Which
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  Speaker 1: half of those holes are back. The rest will come
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  Speaker 1: back at the end of April. And what we see
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  Speaker 1: as a preliminary speculation to set the tone right is
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  Speaker 1: we see a lot of vectoring to some really substantial
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  Speaker 1: targets that are just outside our polygon. In addition to
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  Speaker 1: areas like Firasso. If you looked at our last prest release,
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  Speaker 1: we found two new areas, Antipampa and also typic Coniat
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  Speaker 1: and these areas have We've been trenching on some of
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  Speaker 1: these areas as well as other areas in the project,
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  Speaker 1: and right now we're extremely excited with these projects coming
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  Speaker 1: to light. There's some very very interesting findings that I
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  Speaker 1: think will once we get results back in the next
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  Speaker 1: few months here, we'll really set the tone from the
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  Speaker 1: next round of drilling that we're going to do with
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  Speaker 1: this project. So you know, the question that I had
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  Speaker 1: and why it's been a bit quiet from us corporately
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  Speaker 1: for the last few months, is you know, we wanted
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  Speaker 1: to know is this system real and is it really big?
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  Speaker 1: And the answer is yes, and yes, the bigger it is,
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  Speaker 1: the harder it is to find sometimes. But the team
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  Speaker 1: has done a remarkable job and there's some very very obvious,
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  Speaker 1: substantial multikilometer drill targets that we've been vectoring towards, which
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  Speaker 1: everyone will hear about on the back of the first
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  Speaker 1: round of results. The areas we haven't drilled yet, like Sorry,
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  Speaker 1: Firasso and Niok. These are really, really, really robust outcrop
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  Speaker 1: targets with a lot of access to obvious surface minilization
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  Speaker 1: and bedrock. These will be a big focal point going
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  Speaker 1: forward in the next phase of drilling, and it we'll
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  Speaker 1: expand into some of these other big targets that I've mentioned,
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  Speaker 1: But this project has multi generational discovery potential. In the
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  Speaker 1: next few months, we'll see a lot of trenches from
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  Speaker 1: new areas. Some of the outcropped areas we didn't have
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  Speaker 1: access to previously and now we do, and we're advancing
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  Speaker 1: a substantial drill permit and increasing our polygon about four
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  Speaker 1: times the size of what it was, so we can
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  Speaker 1: drill all of these areas that I'm talking about and
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  Speaker 1: have access to drill as many as two hundred holes
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  Speaker 1: with multiple drill rigs. So we're setting ourselves up for
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  Speaker 1: the next wave of drilling. We'll have a really good
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  Speaker 1: summer with trench results that will lead into two other
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  Speaker 1: targets that kind of compete with Firasso on appeal, and
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  Speaker 1: we'll be drilling Fiaso first. We'll work through those targets
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  Speaker 1: and see if we can start making these world class
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  Speaker 1: discoveries we've talked about.
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  Speaker 2: So everything that brought you here and that led you
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  Speaker 2: through nine years of labor to get the permits and
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  Speaker 2: get financing everything in place, you're still absolutely sure that
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  Speaker 2: you know you're onto something here.
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  Speaker 1: Oh it's you know, in terms of potential, it's gotten better.
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  Speaker 1: I have a lot more conviction now than I did
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  Speaker 1: before we started drilling and the first wave of drilling.
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  Speaker 1: You know, we're all looking for those discovery holes. But
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  Speaker 1: where are you in the system? Is the system real?
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  Speaker 2: Is it there?
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  Speaker 1: And it's pointing us towards you know, we're close, and
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  Speaker 1: there's some very very big targets, and we still haven't
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  Speaker 1: drilled the main targets that drove that exact equation of
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  Speaker 1: nine years of waiting. We still haven't drilled that yet.
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  Speaker 1: And we'll get to drill that later this year is
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  Speaker 1: our goal. Hopefully by the end of summer, going into
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  Speaker 1: the fourth quarter. That's our time frame right now. That's
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  Speaker 1: subject to change. It could be better, it could be
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  Speaker 1: a little bit later. That's just how pro works on
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  Speaker 1: the permitting side. But nothing has changed from the scope
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  Speaker 1: of it. On the negative side, it is just we
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  Speaker 1: see it there. We're finding new things. The new things
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  Speaker 1: we're finding are substantial. We got to work on more areas.
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  Speaker 1: We're also trying to work on a new area called
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  Speaker 1: Machuma Chai. There's a program going there. It's one of
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  Speaker 1: our best footprints that we've identified in one hundred thousand hectares.
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  Speaker 1: It's got the strongest copper and gold draining off that area.
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  Speaker 1: This is a very under explored area as well, so
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  Speaker 1: you will see a series of substantial targets come. You
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  Speaker 1: will see it improved polygone so we have access to
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  Speaker 1: drill where that all of the drilling we've done is
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  Speaker 1: vectoring this and you'll see this get access to some
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  Speaker 1: of the more obvious minializations such as set Piasso. But
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  Speaker 1: this is just the beginning. And if you know scar
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  Speaker 1: and discoveries, I know a few of them. One was
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  Speaker 1: lost Filos in Mexico. It was whole seventy two before
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  Speaker 1: they really hit it and knew they were on to
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  Speaker 1: a twelve million ounced gold scarn. In some other ones
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  Speaker 1: it's a whole one hundred and three. In the case here,
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  Speaker 1: we have those holes already in an area that we
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  Speaker 1: should be able to drill later this year and expand significantly.
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  Speaker 1: Where we've tested and where we've drilled, it's given us
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  Speaker 1: incredibly valuable information and we've shortened down that timeframe where
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  Speaker 1: we don't think it's going to take seventy or one
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  Speaker 1: hundred holes. We think this next phase of drilling, based
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  Speaker 1: on the knowledge of what we have and the way
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  Speaker 1: the targets are shaping out and some of the trenching
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  Speaker 1: that we're doing, we think it's going to really give
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  Speaker 1: us incredible opportunities, not just some probability for potential discovery,
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  Speaker 1: but it's going to give us scale, the scale that
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  Speaker 1: everybody likes with this area. We've spoken to s Alice
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  Speaker 1: recently and we've shown them these targets and we've shown
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  Speaker 1: what we're learning about the project and they love it.
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  Speaker 1: They have not changed their appeal to it. We haven't
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  Speaker 1: changed ours. Everybody on the team is very excited about it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, that's that's what we want to hear. And
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  Speaker 2: the window, the window is narrowing and the opportunity is there.
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  Speaker 2: I'm holding shares, been holding them for years myself, and
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  Speaker 2: nothing has changed my mind. So as far as the
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  Speaker 2: next pro drill program goes, what can what can we
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  Speaker 2: look forward to there?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, So, first we'll get the results out of everything
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  Speaker 1: we drilled, will make a clear presentation to the market
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  Speaker 1: about exactly where it's vectoring us and exactly those next steps.
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  Speaker 1: This should really come out in the next thirty to
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  Speaker 1: ninety days. That the results within thirty days, and then
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  Speaker 1: the next steps will be quite formal because we're waiting
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  Speaker 1: for other data from trenching some of these new areas
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  Speaker 1: that we're going to want to be able to drill
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  Speaker 1: as well, and so that will be the first few
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  Speaker 1: months in front of us right now. And then secondly
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  Speaker 1: would be advancing permits, which they could come relatively quickly,
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  Speaker 1: but it is Peru and things tend to take time
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  Speaker 1: on the from the side, things tend to take time
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  Speaker 1: on the permitting side, And what I would expect on
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  Speaker 1: the proving side would be to get to a point
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  Speaker 1: where we could have a drill turning sometime in the
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  Speaker 1: fourth quarter. That is a bit of a time for
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  Speaker 1: cherylders to wait to turn the drill, but it looks
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  Speaker 1: like we're going to have some really good catalysts from
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  Speaker 1: some of these new targets that are quite robust. In
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  Speaker 1: the meantime, we've also spoken openly and considered getting a
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  Speaker 1: copper project in the US, and we've all seen a
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  Speaker 1: big shift in the US towards the copper market itself
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  Speaker 1: and mining in general, with the you know, favorable support
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  Speaker 1: to advance and fast tracks a lot of good projects.
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  Speaker 1: We'd love to have a US Brouvian portfolio so we
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  Speaker 1: could and something we could drill in the near term,
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  Speaker 1: and we've identified some substantial projects that we're in the
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  Speaker 1: midst of completing due diligence. But we're really trying to
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  Speaker 1: position the company so that it has at least two sombarros,
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  Speaker 1: you know, in its portfolio. One of the US went
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  Speaker 1: to Peru prior to we before we see this big
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  Speaker 1: copper turn in copper prices and the copper equities, and
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  Speaker 1: to quantify the copper price, we all just saw the
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  Speaker 1: running copper that I think was primarily driven off tariffs.
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  Speaker 2: You know.
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  Speaker 1: I think if you look back to last May, when
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  Speaker 1: copper was five dollars a pound on spot, that was
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  Speaker 1: a much different copper equity market than there is today.
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  Speaker 1: There was no tariffs involved at that time, and the
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  Speaker 1: appeal to own and invest, and we did a large
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  Speaker 1: financing in that environment was dramatically different. I think that
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  Speaker 1: market's coming, but I don't think it's coming till the
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  Speaker 1: second half of the year. So if you're a copper
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  Speaker 1: investor and you want to be part of a major,
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  Speaker 1: major opportunity where you could have multiple major discoveries, we
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  Speaker 1: fit that profile. We're trailing at a deep discount to
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  Speaker 1: what we think is the speculative value of what we're
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  Speaker 1: seeing and what we have as an opportunity, and we're
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  Speaker 1: not worried about that. We're more interested in about when
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  Speaker 1: we turn the drills, when we get to that point
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  Speaker 1: of really driving the catalyst and the company what does
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  Speaker 1: that copper environment look like. Is it on track to
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  Speaker 1: perform perfectly in line with our strategy and so far
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  Speaker 1: I think it is. And as far as a US
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  Speaker 1: copper asset, if we can add a substantial one into
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  Speaker 1: the portfolio, this would give us the chance to de
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  Speaker 1: risk any permitting delays or risks down in Peru and
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  Speaker 1: give us something very local in the US and a
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  Speaker 1: country that's really making advancements towards mining and making it
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  Speaker 1: more favorable. So I think we could achieve a very
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  Speaker 1: good premium out of a US copper success story that
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  Speaker 1: we could add to Saber.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, And I think everyone in the sector looked
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  Speaker 2: at the President's moves to speed up permitting in the
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  Speaker 2: US and drilling and actual building of a mine that's
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  Speaker 2: probably going to spread around the world. It seems to
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  Speaker 2: me that's an exorable trend. It's been waiting to happen
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  Speaker 2: because the electrification sounds great, but where's the copper coming from.
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  Speaker 2: I think there's a wake up call across the planet
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  Speaker 2: that without minds, you don't get the copper, and without
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  Speaker 2: the copper, all your dreams, whether they're realistic or not,
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  Speaker 2: are completely unachievable.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, the electrification pathway is real and it's not
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  Speaker 1: going to slow down. It's going to continue on. And
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  Speaker 1: if you look at the reality and some of the
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  Speaker 1: reports of how much copper is going to be needed
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  Speaker 1: over what period of time and how much copper is left,
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  Speaker 1: like some of the largest minds in the world are
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  Speaker 1: halfway mined. And not only is that an issue for
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  Speaker 1: a supply, but it's the depth of how deep they're
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  Speaker 1: going to have to go to get the copper out,
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  Speaker 1: And so the copper price has to perform from a
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  Speaker 1: supply demand issue. In terms of the quality minds, if
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  Speaker 1: you can find something like we're looking for as scarn,
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  Speaker 1: scarns in a notoriously higher grade generally than most other
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  Speaker 1: copper deposits, they're tricky, they take a bit longer to find,
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  Speaker 1: but if you get them right, that's where you can
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  Speaker 1: make a substantial value creation for shareholders and share price
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  Speaker 1: and value of the opportunity. But in that case, I
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  Speaker 1: see a challenge in the copper supply issues for quality copper.
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  Speaker 1: I see that the timeline to bring these things online
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  Speaker 1: is heavily impeded by a current ESG initiatives, various governments
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  Speaker 1: and the US is certainly going to change that tone
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  Speaker 1: within the US because they recognize that copper is key,
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  Speaker 1: as they've identified it as a critical metal to the US.
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  Speaker 1: And I think, as you said, you know, we've seen
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  Speaker 1: a lot of impact on political geopolitics in other countries
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  Speaker 1: when the US has either gone left or right with
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  Speaker 1: its politics, and right now it's going in the right
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  Speaker 1: direction for the next four years, and that gives us
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  Speaker 1: perfect timing to see how much much much improved metals
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  Speaker 1: and mining market that we think is just starting, albeit slow,
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  Speaker 1: but it's on the verge I think of really breaking out.
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  Speaker 2: It really has to in order to in order to
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  Speaker 2: get the metal that's necessary, the profit is going to
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  Speaker 2: have to be there because the risk. We know the
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  Speaker 2: risk isn't going down, so if the price doesn't go
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  Speaker 2: up to compensate for the risk, it's not going to
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  Speaker 2: be there. So it absolutely has to. I think this
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  Speaker 2: just the beginning. It appears to be tariff driven, but
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  Speaker 2: it could be much deeper than that, and that's what
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  Speaker 2: we're going to find out later on in the year.
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  Speaker 2: I don't appreciate you coming on as always again. Go
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  Speaker 2: ticker symbols in the US CPPMF. In Canada COPR IVAN,
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  Speaker 2: Happy drilling and we'll talk to you soon.
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: Thank you so much. I'm looking forward to a great
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: second half of this year with permits underway, a lot
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  Speaker 1: of results that come both from drilling and trenching, and
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  Speaker 1: a very exciting second half of the year. Thank you
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  Speaker 1: so much.
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  Speaker 3: Carrie, the Financial Survival Network