Latest / The Sean O'Connell Show / Gordie Chiesa on the NBA Playoffs, Knicks back in the Finals, WCF Game 5 in OKC, All NBA teams announced + more
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- 0:04Speaker 1: Peace out.
- 0:04Speaker 2: Let's get the latest on the Utah Jazz with former
- 0:07Speaker 2: Jazz assistant coach Gordy Chiasa. He's forgotten more about the
- 0:11Speaker 2: NBA than any of us will ever know.
- 0:13Speaker 1: Let's not get crazy. Come for the hoops talk.
- 0:15Speaker 2: Stay for his list of the day, My list today.
- 0:18Speaker 2: Here's oc with basketball Sabban Gordy Chiasa on the Sean
- 0:22Speaker 2: O'Connell's show.
- 0:35Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Shan O'Connell Show.
- 0:37Speaker 3: Welcome in our good friend, Gordy Chiasa, resident NBA guru,
- 0:42Speaker 3: basketball insider of the highest order.
- 0:46Speaker 1: Gordi chiers are welcome. How was your weekend?
- 0:49Speaker 4: It was really well? How about yourself?
- 0:53Speaker 3: Yeah, it was great, got home, got home from the
- 0:55Speaker 3: PFL duties in Brussels, Belgium, And I'll tell you there's
- 1:00Speaker 3: something special about returning from overseas on like a very
- 1:05Speaker 3: American feeling type of weekend and holiday.
- 1:09Speaker 1: I love flying home.
- 1:10Speaker 3: I've done it several times, where you fly home on
- 1:12Speaker 3: the fourth of July or you fly home. This was
- 1:14Speaker 3: I think the first time I did it on Memorial
- 1:17Speaker 3: Day weekend. There's a good feeling to it, Gordy, Yes, there.
- 1:20Speaker 4: Is, absolutely Whenever we went to China, I came back
- 1:23Speaker 4: from China back to the States. I literally kissed the
- 1:26Speaker 4: ground in the Bay Area.
- 1:28Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a good feeling. So hopefully everyone out there
- 1:31Speaker 3: had a great weekend. I want to get to these
- 1:34Speaker 3: playoff series. But I also all NBA teams announced any
- 1:38Speaker 3: surprises on this for you.
- 1:42Speaker 4: Yeah, three surprises where I'll specially the thirteen with a
- 1:47Speaker 4: Chet Hungrim making the third hits, the third team Terse Maxi,
- 1:50Speaker 4: Jamal Murray, Jellen Johnson jailing during and chet Hong Grin snubbed.
- 1:59Speaker 4: I thought the third team would be Scotty Bonds of
- 2:02Speaker 4: the Tronto Raptors, who's played great the whole year and
- 2:05Speaker 4: his team has improved tremendously, so I was surprised to
- 2:08Speaker 4: him not making that team.
- 2:11Speaker 3: When we talk about the All NBA Teams, there's so
- 2:14Speaker 3: many things now associated with this where guys have contract
- 2:17Speaker 3: incentives and escalators baked into whether or not they achieve
- 2:22Speaker 3: All NBA honors. I mean, this is see it's like
- 2:26Speaker 3: as high as stakes as you can get for a
- 2:28Speaker 3: postseason or an offseason award.
- 2:32Speaker 4: Very much add to that, also, branding is a huge
- 2:35Speaker 4: factor for the listeners. The NBA All Stars are twenty
- 2:39Speaker 4: four players. Now the NBA selections comes down to only
- 2:46Speaker 4: fifteen players, where it's first, second, and thirteen, So it's
- 2:50Speaker 4: really the fifteen top players in the NBA versus the
- 2:53Speaker 4: All Star Game, which is the top twenty four players.
- 2:55Speaker 4: And sometimes there's injuries, those guys are selected but don't
- 2:58Speaker 4: play in the game. So quickly, here's the second team.
- 3:02Speaker 4: Jalen Brown of the Celtics, Kawhi Leonard of the Clippers
- 3:06Speaker 4: who was healthy this year, Donovan Mitchell of the Cavs,
- 3:10Speaker 4: Kevin Durant of the Rockets, and Jalen Brunson we know
- 3:14Speaker 4: about him for Nikobockers. The first team is Kate Cunningham,
- 3:20Speaker 4: Luca Dantege from Slovenia, vifty wn Byamber from France, Nikolai
- 3:26Speaker 4: Jokic from Serbia, and Shane Jillis Alexander from Canada. So
- 3:32Speaker 4: think about it, Sean, the first All NBA team four
- 3:36Speaker 4: to five players are from foreign countries. How good? Yeah,
- 3:40Speaker 4: that's how good the rest of the world is. The
- 3:42Speaker 4: only guy being obviously is Kate Cunningham. Just quickly, a
- 3:45Speaker 4: synopsis is that there was two guys that made All
- 3:49Speaker 4: NBA first second or third team that were picked in
- 3:53Speaker 4: the second round. They are Jalen Brunson, picked number thirty
- 3:57Speaker 4: three back in twenty eighteen, and the Khalai Jokic grievious
- 4:01Speaker 4: mentioned pick number forty one at twenty and fifteen. There
- 4:05Speaker 4: was two guys picked as the first pick of their
- 4:08Speaker 4: draft they made All NBA. They are Victor Mbamber, the
- 4:12Speaker 4: first pick in two thousand and twenty three, and King
- 4:16Speaker 4: cutting Him the first pick in twenty twenty one. The
- 4:20Speaker 4: illustration is that, yes, when you're picking high number one
- 4:24Speaker 4: in the lottery, the chances of that guy being a
- 4:27Speaker 4: tremendous player are high, but also it doesn't mean that
- 4:31Speaker 4: if you picked in the second round or not a
- 4:33Speaker 4: lottery picks, that that guy can be in the league player. Also,
- 4:37Speaker 4: and Jazz basketball quickly Calmlan Calmalon made All NBA either first,
- 4:42Speaker 4: second to third team fourteen times and John Stockton made
- 4:46Speaker 4: it eleven, which shows you how hard.
- 4:48Speaker 1: It is, Gordy.
- 4:50Speaker 3: As it pertains to the Jazz, what is more likely
- 4:53Speaker 3: that a player currently on the team will be an
- 4:57Speaker 3: All NBA player or that the upcoming number two overall
- 5:01Speaker 3: draft pick, assuming that's where they pick, will be an
- 5:04Speaker 3: All NBA player at some point in their career.
- 5:06Speaker 1: What's more likely.
- 5:10Speaker 4: The second pick of the draft. That's how talented these
- 5:14Speaker 4: guys could be. They are, yeah, second pick of the draft.
- 5:18Speaker 4: So but again it's a maturation product. It's the question philosophically,
- 5:22Speaker 4: when does a player who has a really enormous talent
- 5:27Speaker 4: merge with the experience of playing in an NBA and
- 5:31Speaker 4: leading your team to go minimum deep in the playoffs.
- 5:35Speaker 4: When does it happen? No one knows the answer. It's
- 5:37Speaker 4: the great unknown. But this is but this is the
- 5:41Speaker 4: NBA is a talent league. You need X amount of
- 5:44Speaker 4: degree of talent, then the toughness, then the skill factor,
- 5:48Speaker 4: then your trusted allied teammates, and into a winning atmosphere.
- 5:52Speaker 4: So that's the question. Number two in the draft this
- 5:56Speaker 4: year is going to be a knockout talent and also
- 5:59Speaker 4: a guy that that could lead his franchise. Whoever's going
- 6:03Speaker 4: to be Gordy.
- 6:05Speaker 3: How much conversation is there, you know, in locker rooms
- 6:08Speaker 3: with teams about the sort of the politics around these awards,
- 6:13Speaker 3: because again, these are very impactful. These are there's contract
- 6:16Speaker 3: implications and legacy implications and things like that. How much
- 6:21Speaker 3: conversation is there in in the like the back rooms
- 6:25Speaker 3: of the NBA about like, man, how did our guy
- 6:27Speaker 3: get snubbed?
- 6:28Speaker 1: What's going on here? For players? Obviously there's some high stakes.
- 6:33Speaker 4: Yeah, very much. Where the coaches in management they're very
- 6:36Speaker 4: conscious of it is that they're trying to u it
- 6:40Speaker 4: helps a franchise that you have. For example, Detroit Pessons,
- 6:43Speaker 4: they have two young guys that are all NBA selections.
- 6:47Speaker 4: Now they lost in this second round to the Cavaliers
- 6:51Speaker 4: in Game seven at home, but the fact of the
- 6:54Speaker 4: matter is that they directed very wisely, meaning Kate Cunningham
- 6:58Speaker 4: at number one in twenty twenty one and Jalen Durham
- 7:03Speaker 4: at number thirteen and twenty twenty two. So Sean, the
- 7:07Speaker 4: Pistons back to back years selected the right guy and
- 7:11Speaker 4: now three or four years, three or four or five
- 7:13Speaker 4: years later, this shows what happens. So it does matter
- 7:17Speaker 4: who you draft, and it does matter how you accelerate
- 7:20Speaker 4: that person's skill set and also the maturity index, and
- 7:24Speaker 4: that's that's based on your own personality, but also who's
- 7:27Speaker 4: around you every single day counseling you, and who your
- 7:31Speaker 4: teammates are.
- 7:34Speaker 3: Gordy Jay's our guest here on the Sean O'Connell show
- 7:37Speaker 3: talking about the All NBA teams that are released. No
- 7:41Speaker 3: Utah Jazz players obviously have made the first, second, or
- 7:44Speaker 3: third team this year. If if one guy on the
- 7:48Speaker 3: current roster were to be next to do it, not
- 7:50Speaker 3: the you already said the most likely scenarios at the
- 7:53Speaker 3: upcoming draft pick, we'll probably do it. But who would
- 7:59Speaker 3: be the guy that's on the right now that you'd like?
- 8:01Speaker 1: All right, if I had to bet on somebody, it
- 8:02Speaker 1: would be him.
- 8:04Speaker 4: Heys Belly. Yeah, he's got talent, he's young, he's only
- 8:09Speaker 4: twenty years old. He's got talent, he's got a winning spirit.
- 8:12Speaker 4: Two so Ace someday it is again with the skill
- 8:16Speaker 4: set and is a maturity factor, and he's a really
- 8:20Speaker 4: he's a tremendous young talent. So he'd be the guy
- 8:24Speaker 4: that I think that someday it things going to place.
- 8:27Speaker 4: Could be that.
- 8:29Speaker 3: All right, let's talk about the actual basketball still being played.
- 8:32Speaker 3: You've got Game five tonight in San Antonio, Oklahoma City,
- 8:36Speaker 3: six thirty Mountain Time for the kick for the tip,
- 8:39Speaker 3: not the kick off the tip. But whoever wins this one,
- 8:43Speaker 3: whoever wins this series, is going to be going up
- 8:45Speaker 3: against a very rested Eastern Conference team because the New
- 8:48Speaker 3: York Knicks swept their way through the Eastern Conference finals.
- 8:53Speaker 3: What do you make of New York right now, Gordy.
- 8:56Speaker 4: They're playing at a high level. They enjoy each other.
- 9:01Speaker 4: The roles are absolutely defined. That's a huge factor. So
- 9:04Speaker 4: the Knicks have talent. Everyone understands who their main guys are,
- 9:09Speaker 4: and then the secondary players who are starters are really
- 9:13Speaker 4: outperforming the rest of the players that they're competing against. So,
- 9:18Speaker 4: for example, besides Jalen Bruns, we know how great he
- 9:21Speaker 4: is again, he's all NBA performer. Company Towns is the
- 9:25Speaker 4: second cog of that. He's pass happy as a big guy.
- 9:28Speaker 4: So the beginning of his career he really have the
- 9:30Speaker 4: pass the ball. Now he's averaging over six as sis
- 9:33Speaker 4: per game and whenever he has that numbers in playoffs,
- 9:39Speaker 4: the Knickerbockers are seven or zero now. But the other
- 9:42Speaker 4: guys that are playing spectacular in their role and that's
- 9:46Speaker 4: why they're winning, and that's Michel Bridges, oj And and
- 9:49Speaker 4: Opie and Josh Hart. So all three of those guys
- 9:53Speaker 4: are two way performers that they can score the ball,
- 9:57Speaker 4: they can defend their position, and they all rebound and
- 10:01Speaker 4: they're all gretty happy. So that's why the Knicks right
- 10:05Speaker 4: now have won eleven straight playoff games. Besides the brilliance
- 10:09Speaker 4: of the first two guys I mentioned, it's those other
- 10:12Speaker 4: three guys that have outplayed everyone else they've played against.
- 10:16Speaker 4: So basically, they've outplayed, out, tuffed outshot outsteeled, out rebounded
- 10:22Speaker 4: their rivals. And that's why the Knicks could be NBA champions.
- 10:28Speaker 4: But let's not forget though, the thunder and disposed those
- 10:31Speaker 4: guys are Game five tonight. It's going to be absolutely
- 10:35Speaker 4: battle and whoever it gets out of the West, you're
- 10:39Speaker 4: going to play again Nicobockers. It's going to be really
- 10:41Speaker 4: a great series shown. Besides the talent Our television partners
- 10:47Speaker 4: in the NBA, they will be a static that the
- 10:49Speaker 4: Nicrobockers are going to play in prime time for the
- 10:52Speaker 4: first time since nineteen ninety nine. And that's just shows
- 10:56Speaker 4: you how interesting it is output in Contact. About nineteen
- 11:01Speaker 4: ninety nine, the let ten nexture in the finals. Josh
- 11:04Speaker 4: Hart was four years old, cal Anthony Towns was three
- 11:07Speaker 4: years old, mckel Bridges was two years old, Jalen Brunson
- 11:11Speaker 4: was two years old, and o g. N Obi was
- 11:13Speaker 4: one year old, and Sean O'Connell was sixteen years old,
- 11:17Speaker 4: and James Peterson was seven years old. I'm putting all contexts.
- 11:23Speaker 1: I remember it well.
- 11:25Speaker 4: You were sixteen years old. You were in high school,
- 11:28Speaker 4: trying to get get into fights all the time.
- 11:31Speaker 1: I was not. I was trying to avoid getting in
- 11:33Speaker 1: fights all the time.
- 11:33Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, no. You're talking to us now,
- 11:35Speaker 4: James Peterson and I and your closest friends of the audience.
- 11:39Speaker 4: You're getting in fights. You were throwing the elbows and
- 11:41Speaker 4: pickup games, and you were tackling people in football games.
- 11:45Speaker 3: Well, I was trying to tackle people in football games.
- 11:48Speaker 3: I wish I had been better at that too. We
- 11:52Speaker 3: were talking about that to start the show. The narrative
- 11:56Speaker 3: that comes with, Wow, you've got the number one media market,
- 11:58Speaker 3: You've got a legendary fri franchise. You've got them back
- 12:02Speaker 3: on the verge of like true championship relevance.
- 12:05Speaker 1: Good for the league to have the New York Knicks.
- 12:07Speaker 2: Year.
- 12:07Speaker 3: On the flip side, you've got two small market teams
- 12:10Speaker 3: in the Western Conference. I still make an argument that
- 12:13Speaker 3: both are good stories for the league because they displayed
- 12:17Speaker 3: to James Peterson's point he made earlier, it displays that
- 12:20Speaker 3: there's real parody that you don't have to be a
- 12:21Speaker 3: major market team in order to, you know, win at
- 12:24Speaker 3: a championship level. Obviously, the San Antonio Spurs have a
- 12:27Speaker 3: long history of proving this, and I think they're a
- 12:30Speaker 3: respected enough team and franchise in the league that when
- 12:33Speaker 3: they're good, it is quote unquote good for the league. Okase,
- 12:37Speaker 3: He's interesting right now because we're seeing a lot of pushback,
- 12:41Speaker 3: a lot of complaining about, especially Shake Gildess Alexander's style
- 12:45Speaker 3: of play. You know, foul merchant keeps getting thrown at
- 12:49Speaker 3: him and all this conversation about him, you know, feigning contact, flopping,
- 12:54Speaker 3: et cetera. That's not good for the league when your
- 12:56Speaker 3: MVP is involved in those types of conversations. That's not
- 12:59Speaker 3: necessary really good for the NBA. But you know, you've
- 13:02Speaker 3: been around the game forever, Gordy, and you've coached guys
- 13:05Speaker 3: that are like this, You've coached guys that are the
- 13:07Speaker 3: opposite end of the spectrum.
- 13:09Speaker 1: What can be done about this?
- 13:11Speaker 3: Again, an mv m VP level player having a style
- 13:15Speaker 3: that is maybe somewhat problematic.
- 13:19Speaker 4: Waits. The first questions, he on your team, you love him,
- 13:24Speaker 4: the opposition you dislike him. As far as him drawing fouls,
- 13:29Speaker 4: I'm going I'm going to be on my team where
- 13:32Speaker 4: the ability to get shoulder by the initial defensive player
- 13:36Speaker 4: and then create contacts by throwing his hands into the
- 13:40Speaker 4: health defense creates fouls, or when he gets bumped off bounced,
- 13:44Speaker 4: he goes into a theatrical audition as far as in Hollywood,
- 13:48Speaker 4: I think it's really good, and it's up to the
- 13:50Speaker 4: referees to make the call. Who gains the advantage? Was
- 13:55Speaker 4: it the opposite player meaning Shay who was a defensive
- 13:58Speaker 4: player who took who didn't take away? What is dribble?
- 14:02Speaker 4: So that it's more of interpretation by the by the referees.
- 14:06Speaker 4: I think it's really good. Sean Say is an unbelievable,
- 14:09Speaker 4: absolutely incredible player in this series. Right now, he's appening
- 14:13Speaker 4: twenty four point eight points per game and tennis sists
- 14:16Speaker 4: even though not shooting very well from the field. And
- 14:19Speaker 4: so it's more it's more on the referees to make
- 14:22Speaker 4: the judgment call versus shape changing his style of play.
- 14:26Speaker 4: That's Thunder a tremendous team. They're a great organization. They
- 14:30Speaker 4: hit the jackpot on most of their draft picks, both
- 14:34Speaker 4: presently and also and future out and so are the Spurs.
- 14:38Speaker 4: So it's both teams that are small, very similar to
- 14:40Speaker 4: the Jazz. You know, again, the Jet hit the jackpot
- 14:44Speaker 4: on Chanta George absolutely hit the jackpot on Ace Belly
- 14:48Speaker 4: and the second pick this year the Jets who will
- 14:51Speaker 4: hit the jackpot also, So the Jazz also are are
- 14:55Speaker 4: still in the building stages right now, but they're getting
- 14:57Speaker 4: it correctly. And yester year the Jets and yes, your
- 15:01Speaker 4: Jazz basketball hit the jackpot all the time, especially on
- 15:04Speaker 4: their second round draft picks. And that's what the Jets
- 15:07Speaker 4: went to the playoffs twenty straight years in a row,
- 15:09Speaker 4: though not NBA champions. And that's you judge at the
- 15:12Speaker 4: top of the apex.
- 15:14Speaker 1: Who wins Game five?
- 15:15Speaker 4: Gordon, Yeah, tonight should be colossal, all right, Sean in
- 15:20Speaker 4: Olkahoma City Thunder. It's going to be tonight the Thunder,
- 15:24Speaker 4: and then it be game six, Game six coming up
- 15:28Speaker 4: back back in San Antonio. HiT's the question see right now,
- 15:33Speaker 4: is that if the Thunder do win tonight, which they should,
- 15:37Speaker 4: is that they need more from chet hungering. So for example,
- 15:40Speaker 4: I'll put in context. Chet Honkin is an NBA player.
- 15:43Speaker 4: He made thirteen, so this guy's got talent. Alice Crusoe
- 15:47Speaker 4: has more blocks than Chet hungering so Cruise, who has
- 15:51Speaker 4: five blocks in the series, Holkham has three, And that
- 15:54Speaker 4: just shows you that Chet's got to get involved more
- 15:57Speaker 4: of his team besides guarding Victor wen Beyamba. They need
- 16:02Speaker 4: more from offensively as far as getting to the offensive
- 16:05Speaker 4: offensive boards, but also making shots right now. From the
- 16:12Speaker 4: Spurs point of view, they need more perimeter shooting right now,
- 16:17Speaker 4: So Stephen Castle, Dylan Harper, and Julian Champenny, they're shooting
- 16:23Speaker 4: from three point range. I call it iglo shooting, meaning
- 16:27Speaker 4: ice cold. They're shooting twelve to sixty two from threes.
- 16:30Speaker 4: So Victor wen Beyond is brilliant, is absolutely front and center,
- 16:34Speaker 4: but he needs more primitive shooting for his teammates to
- 16:37Speaker 4: keep the defense honest. I like tonight the Thunder in
- 16:40Speaker 4: a hard four game as far as knocking out and
- 16:44Speaker 4: then going to game six and then Sean Manstinc's tell
- 16:48Speaker 4: me we're going to play game seven very shortly too.
- 16:52Speaker 1: Lordy, what's your list today?
- 16:54Speaker 4: All right? Listen today, Sean about triple doubles. Don't you
- 16:57Speaker 4: get the feeling that when Beyama can get a triple
- 17:00Speaker 4: at any moment, besides points and rebounds, maybe blocks and
- 17:04Speaker 4: maybe even maybe even assist. Here we go the most
- 17:10Speaker 4: creative playoffs triple double games. I could have only twelve
- 17:14Speaker 4: names on this list. Quickly, what's a triple double game?
- 17:17Speaker 4: A triple double is recorded when a player registers ten
- 17:21Speaker 4: or more and three of the following five categories in
- 17:26Speaker 4: a game. They are one points, two assist, three rebounds,
- 17:36Speaker 4: four steals, and five blocks. Prior to nineteen seventy four playoffs,
- 17:43Speaker 4: the NBA did not officially record steals or blocks. All Right,
- 17:47Speaker 4: triple double in playoff games. It's very hard to do.
- 17:51Speaker 4: With five and twelfth place five John Halchek and eleven place,
- 17:57Speaker 4: Oscar Robinson with eight triple doubles with ten plays World
- 18:03Speaker 4: Chamberlain with nine, but we never know Sean about his
- 18:07Speaker 4: block shots, all right, tied for six, a four way
- 18:11Speaker 4: tie with ten koreer triple doubles. They are Raijon Rondo,
- 18:17Speaker 4: Larry Bird, Draymond Green, and Luca Dantage. Fifth all time
- 18:23Speaker 4: with most ever triple doubles. Jason Kidd with eleven, fourth
- 18:28Speaker 4: all time, Russell Westbrook with twelve, third all time, Nikolai
- 18:34Speaker 4: Jolkic with twenty three coreer triple doubles, and you get
- 18:38Speaker 4: the feeling that he might have on this list very shortly.
- 18:41Speaker 4: The most ever number two all times he plays for
- 18:45Speaker 4: the Lakers, Lebron James with twenty eight, and the number
- 18:48Speaker 4: one player, but the most ever playoff triple doubles is
- 18:52Speaker 4: Matt nick Johnson. He did it thirty times in one
- 18:55Speaker 4: hundred and ninety games career wise in the playoffs. Quickly,
- 18:59Speaker 4: what about jazz basketball. It only happened three times in
- 19:02Speaker 4: history of jazz playoff basketball where a guy recorded a
- 19:06Speaker 4: triple double. The most recent was Ricky Rubio on four
- 19:10Speaker 4: twenty one, twenty eighteen versus thunder John Stockton back in
- 19:16Speaker 4: April twenty eight, two thousand and one versus Dallason Rabbicks
- 19:20Speaker 4: at age thirty nine had a triple double in the
- 19:23Speaker 4: least and the longest ever triple double, which Ricky Green
- 19:28Speaker 4: back in nineteen eighty four versus the Devin Nuggets. So
- 19:32Speaker 4: it's there'll be somebody in jazz basketball. Hopefully soon we'll
- 19:35Speaker 4: get a triple double to be on that list. Thus
- 19:39Speaker 4: that's my list of today.
- 19:42Speaker 3: I Magic Johnson having more than Lebron given Lebron's longevity,
- 19:48Speaker 3: is actually pretty crazy.
- 19:50Speaker 4: Yeah. So Lebron's played in as we speak right now,
- 19:52Speaker 4: three hundred and three playoff games. Bagic played one hundred
- 19:56Speaker 4: and ninety. But yokis you showing yok? He is the
- 20:00Speaker 4: guy where again, like Victor went beyond. But when he
- 20:03Speaker 4: got into the court, whether it's a playoff game, a
- 20:06Speaker 4: regular season, whether it's game seven or game you know,
- 20:08Speaker 4: twenty five in a regular NBA campaign, those guys are
- 20:12Speaker 4: walking triple doubles the way they play, but they can
- 20:15Speaker 4: get it also assist and block shots and rebounds, and
- 20:19Speaker 4: that's the most amazing thing about it. Besides points.
- 20:23Speaker 1: Magic played how many years in like thirteen years?
- 20:27Speaker 4: Yeah, thirteen years, Yeah, yeah, thirteen years. So he was
- 20:31Speaker 4: absolutely force as far as in playoff games. Remember he's
- 20:36Speaker 4: passing the ball to Koreem and then passing the ball
- 20:39Speaker 4: to James Worthy, you know, two of his unbelievable sidekicks
- 20:43Speaker 4: besides Byron Scott and all the other guys on this team.
- 20:48Speaker 1: Crazy crazy, Gordy, You're the man. Love talking to you, sir,
- 20:52Speaker 1: Thanks for your time as always
- 20:54Speaker 4: Thanks Sean peace Out