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Chuck & Buck 6-5 Hour 1: a rude awakening for Gregg! What's going on in Renton? Is Russ HoF worthy? · Chuck in the Morning

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  Speaker 1: Good morning, Happy Friday.
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  Speaker 2: This is not Chuck Power Bucky Jacobson. It's Greg Bell
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  Speaker 2: moving in and pinch hitting a little earlier with Ashley Ryan.
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  Speaker 2: Happy Friday to Year. This is Army pt formation early Ashley.
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  Speaker 3: I like that you game and you're like, this is early. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: it is very early. I say that to myself every
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  Speaker 3: time my alarm goes off.
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  Speaker 1: What I can get from Green Lake to here in
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  Speaker 1: ten minutes? It's early?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, exactly.
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  Speaker 1: I could.
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  Speaker 2: I couldn't believe there was no traffic at five point
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  Speaker 2: thirty in Seattle, A beautiful Seattle morning in June fifth
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  Speaker 2: to you. Lots of talk about today. Heck, we got
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  Speaker 2: four hours we can talk tons. Where should we start, Ashley?
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  Speaker 2: I mean the Marriners didn't play last.
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  Speaker 5: Night, didn't I know? So the world's your oyster.
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  Speaker 2: Seahawks had their second OTA practice, third OTA practice the
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  Speaker 2: week sixth of the last two weeks.
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  Speaker 1: They're done now with the voluntary stuff.
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  Speaker 2: The only thing left are three mandatory practices in a
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  Speaker 2: mini camp next week Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Monday, they have
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  Speaker 2: husicals and some things at team headquarters, and then after
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  Speaker 2: it might even be Wednesday because Mike McDonald's prone to
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  Speaker 2: cut off a last day and give them a cookie
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  Speaker 2: like that, as Mike Holmgren used to call it. And
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  Speaker 2: then they're done. They're off. The off season is over
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  Speaker 2: the middle and late next week, and then the Seahawks
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  Speaker 2: don't get on the field again until July twenty fifth
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  Speaker 2: ish for the start of training him And here we go.
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  Speaker 1: I'm already counted days to my summer as we've been over.
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  Speaker 3: No, no, it's just it's not even officially summer exactly.
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  Speaker 1: We haven't even had to soil.
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  Speaker 2: We haven't had the Fremont Naked Falsest Parade yet.
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  Speaker 5: It hasn't even counted. Nothing counts.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, here we are the shortest off season possible
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  Speaker 2: in the NFL for the Seahawks after winning the Super Bowl,
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  Speaker 2: February eighth is about to end. The voluntary off season
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  Speaker 2: program ends today, three days of mini camp next week,
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  Speaker 2: and they're done. They're off until the end of July
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  Speaker 2: and the start of their defense of the Super Bowl championship.
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  Speaker 2: You're gonna hear from Cooper Cup during our show today,
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  Speaker 2: right after we get into our headlines brought to you
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  Speaker 2: by Frostbood Corps Light Choose Chill. Top of the show,
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  Speaker 2: I mentioned the marriage din't play a stack because they're
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  Speaker 2: not playing going to Detroit. They have a three game
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  Speaker 2: series against the Tigers starting today. The manners of three
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  Speaker 2: games over five hundred Detroit thirteen games under five hundred.
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  Speaker 2: My head, that's changed since October in the playoffs when
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  Speaker 2: they met each other. Brown Woo starts tonight trying to
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  Speaker 2: make it nine wins in ten games for the MS.
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  Speaker 2: The Tigers start Framburt Valdez Oo. Yeah, we have trash cans,
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  Speaker 2: fame of infamy.
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  Speaker 1: You're right to boof framer Valley.
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  Speaker 5: He also just seems like a turd.
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  Speaker 2: He doesn't seem like a good guy. Potentially hitting batters, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: and trying.
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  Speaker 5: To take out his catchers. Yeah no, not a fan.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, the cross Yeah, yeah, I forgot that was
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  Speaker 2: whom Yeah. That was brutal.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, it was.
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  Speaker 1: That was one of the worst things I've seen in baseball.
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  Speaker 3: It was like the catcher's first game catching form.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, terrible.
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  Speaker 2: If to Framberveld does more than I know you would.
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  Speaker 2: Chuck and Bucky have talked about him in the past.
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  Speaker 2: Bryce Miller starts tomorrow for the MS. That's a ten
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  Speaker 2: ten am Seattle Time start of matinee in Detroit. Luis
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  Speaker 2: Castill get this, He's actually making a real live start
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  Speaker 2: on Sunday. No more piggybacking. Because the Mariners have sixteen
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  Speaker 2: games in seventeen days. They're gonna give Castillo and Miller
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  Speaker 2: their regular turns and make them let him go more
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  Speaker 2: than four or five innings and sixty seventy pitches. Castillo's
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  Speaker 2: gonna start on Sunday at ten forty am. No piggyback
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  Speaker 2: in there, six man rotation. That means Bryce Miller is
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  Speaker 2: gonna go Wednesday when the Mariners go to Baltimore Seahawks
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  Speaker 2: OTA's Yesterday, the Virginia Mason Athletic Center OTAs are now done.
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  Speaker 2: That's the voluntary practices of the offseason done. Starting right
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  Speaker 2: guard Anthony Bradford didn't participate in it yesterday. He had
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  Speaker 2: an ice pack on his right knee during practice the
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  Speaker 2: day before Wednesday, so they held him out because starters
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  Speaker 2: don't need to practice in June. Really, nobody needs a
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  Speaker 2: practice in June. Christian Haynes was the starting right guard yesterday.
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  Speaker 2: Remember him, not Bo Steven, the rookie fifth round picking
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  Speaker 2: All American from Iowa. We'll talk a lot more about
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  Speaker 2: what I saw at OTA's this week throughout the show.
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  Speaker 2: Stanley Cup Finals Game two battles thrilling, maybe even more
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  Speaker 2: thrilling than that great game won.
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  Speaker 1: This is how it ended.
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  Speaker 5: Oh yeah, you want the highlight? Now there we go.
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  Speaker 5: Just over here.
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  Speaker 2: These gentlemen were quiet, all the critics wondering where they've
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  Speaker 2: been if they score the game winner and over time
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  Speaker 2: costest pair Star Charms cross the crowd. Sean mcdonaughy ABC
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  Speaker 2: ESPN on the call of Game two of the Stanley
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  Speaker 2: Cup Final. You heard the winning goal there. That was
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  Speaker 2: after Vegas had a two nothing lead. Early. Carolina scored
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  Speaker 2: three goals in about five minutes of the third period
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  Speaker 2: the second half of the third period.
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  Speaker 1: To take the lead.
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  Speaker 2: Vegas came back to tie it, and you heard the
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  Speaker 2: seth Jar overtime goal.
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  Speaker 1: Four to three Hurricanes over.
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  Speaker 2: Golden Knights ties the Cup Final at one. Series now
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  Speaker 2: goes to Las Vegas for games three and four.
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  Speaker 1: We're gonna talk to our.
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  Speaker 2: Man, Eddieochick, the Cracking Analyst also the national broadcast analyst
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  Speaker 2: in the Sports USA Radio networks, call here on ninety
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  Speaker 2: three point three KJR of the Stanley Cup Finals. We're
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  Speaker 2: gonna try to catch him before he gets on a
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  Speaker 2: plane in Raleigh to Vegas. Good job on that Astlee.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, we're catching Yeah, we're catching him on a layo.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah he's got a layer.
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  Speaker 1: Wait, he doesn't have a private jet that'll take him
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  Speaker 1: to last check.
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  Speaker 2: No.
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  Speaker 5: I tried to talk to him about that too.
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  Speaker 1: I thought Eddio was a PJ guy for sure.
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  Speaker 5: He's like, all right, if I can make this layover work,
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  Speaker 5: it's on. I was like, okay, we got this.
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  Speaker 2: Because yeah, there ain't no commercial nonstops from Raleigh to
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  Speaker 2: Las Vegas.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think, not too many.
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  Speaker 2: No, So okay, great, we're gonna catch him in what
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  Speaker 2: Dallas or Chicago or Denver.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, somewhere along those lines. I can't remember. He said it.
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  Speaker 5: I need to pay better attention.
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  Speaker 1: Good for him to join us, Thanks for taking the time. Idio.
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  Speaker 2: Eddie Olchik will be on hopefully around seven forty five
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  Speaker 2: to talk about last night's strimming game and where it
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  Speaker 2: goes from one one in the Stanley Cup Finals, the
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  Speaker 2: NBA Finals Game two tonight and San Antonio the next
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  Speaker 2: in Manhattan. Hero Jalen Brunson lead the series one game
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  Speaker 2: to none. I don't know if you talked about this yesterday, Ashley.
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  Speaker 2: The last three teams to win a finals Game one
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  Speaker 2: on the road of all lost this title series. Really,
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  Speaker 2: you go back to two thousand and four the Detroit
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  Speaker 2: Pistons to find the last team that won a road
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  Speaker 2: game Game one in the finals and then won at all.
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  Speaker 5: Oh no, we did not talk about that.
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  Speaker 3: We did talk about we both think Dick and I
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  Speaker 3: both thought the Spurs would take it. I had told
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  Speaker 3: Chuck game seven, and we go to Game seven, and
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  Speaker 3: Dick thought the same thing.
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  Speaker 2: So we'll see a road win by that pretends a
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  Speaker 2: Game seven when the road team win the game one.
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  Speaker 5: You're right.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll see tonight and then the series goes to
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  Speaker 2: Madison Square Guard, which will be absolutely off the hook.
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  Speaker 2: We talked yesterday on my show to Keith McPherson, former
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  Speaker 2: w fan host in New York, and he was saying
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  Speaker 2: that Manhattan and New York City is just going bonkers
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  Speaker 2: right now for the Knicks.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, I can't imagine.
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  Speaker 3: And then add in the fact that you've got World
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  Speaker 3: Cup starting and people going to New York for that,
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  Speaker 3: that city is going to be in exactly.
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  Speaker 2: And the World Cup in New York City is unlike
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  Speaker 2: any other because every country in the world's represented there
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  Speaker 2: by people who lived there already. Yeah, so it's not
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  Speaker 2: like they have to have people fly in to support.
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  Speaker 1: The team's playing there. That's gonna be wild too.
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  Speaker 2: Last night in that game in Carolina, Vegas, defense and
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  Speaker 2: Brayden McNabb left the game and was in a hospital
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  Speaker 2: last night after he took an eighty seven hour and
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  Speaker 2: hour frozen puck slap shot from Nikolai Eller's off his
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  Speaker 2: face in the first period. We'll talk with Enzo about
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  Speaker 2: that too, Eddie ol Chick around seven to forty five.
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  Speaker 2: In baseball, Aaron judge he's going to be out for
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  Speaker 2: the Yankees a long time, apparently months.
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  Speaker 1: Here's a stress fracture in his rib.
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  Speaker 2: The team said the three time American League MVP will
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  Speaker 2: get another imaging test in four to six weeks to
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  Speaker 2: determine his healing and what to do next.
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  Speaker 1: And they're saying in New York he thought they thought
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  Speaker 1: it was gonna be worse.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's which I mean, which is crazy because that's
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  Speaker 3: a blow.
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  Speaker 5: That is a Yeah, that's.
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  Speaker 1: This guy and out of the middle of the Yankees lineup.
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  Speaker 2: The Yankees are a half game back of the Rays,
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  Speaker 2: who have reeled back a little bit in the top
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  Speaker 2: of the American League East. But it looks like Aaron
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  Speaker 2: Jde's gonna miss it a couple months with a fractured rib.
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  Speaker 2: Women's College World Series softball Texas rally to a four
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  Speaker 2: to one winner for Texas Tech to win it all
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  Speaker 2: last night. Longhorns second consecutive softball national championship.
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  Speaker 1: I bet you were watching that, coach.
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  Speaker 3: Uh yeah, it was actually the least the finals were
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  Speaker 3: the least exciting part of the entire Women's College World Series.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know, I just there was so much excitement
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  Speaker 3: in everything else, and it was kind of like the
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  Speaker 3: finals Texas, Texas and Texas. I expected to go three games.
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  Speaker 3: I expected it to be like nail biers all the way.
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  Speaker 2: Down and yeah, it's just okay, best of three is
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  Speaker 2: how the Women's College World Series does it. In Texas
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  Speaker 2: won two in a row over Texas. It was a
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  Speaker 2: rematch of last year. Yeah final as well. So the
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  Speaker 2: Longhorns hooke them Horns win their second consecutive softball national championship.
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  Speaker 2: Coach Ashley Ryan of softball Fame was tuning in for that.
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  Speaker 5: Sure softball thing. Never played softball in my life.
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  Speaker 1: More water polo fame than softball fame.
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  Speaker 5: There you go.
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  Speaker 2: On the show today, I mentioned Cooper Cup's going to
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  Speaker 2: be on your in your ears at eight o'clock, thirty
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  Speaker 2: two year old Seahawks wide receiver, former Super Bowl MVP,
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  Speaker 2: NFL Player of the Year. I asked him yesterday he
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  Speaker 2: got it was taken aback. But I said, did you
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  Speaker 2: think of just walking out on top after the Super Bowl?
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  Speaker 2: And yeah, go home to your boys and your wife,
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  Speaker 2: and now that you're home again, you've made one hundred
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  Speaker 2: and sixteen million dollars.
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  Speaker 5: It's a fair question.
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  Speaker 2: And he looked at me like I was with the
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  Speaker 2: forty nine ers or something. He was like, no, you'll
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  Speaker 2: hear from him. You could almost hear his scoff when
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  Speaker 2: he I asked him that you'll hear from them at
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  Speaker 2: eight o'clock.
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  Speaker 1: At seven oh five, man, that's about an hour from now.
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  Speaker 2: Yep. What you're gonna talk live from Detroit where it's
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  Speaker 2: not that early, and of course the Mariners are there
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  Speaker 2: in Detrait this weekend, we're going to talk about Tigers
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  Speaker 2: beat writer Cody s David Hagen of The Athletic we've.
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  Speaker 1: Talked to him in the past and the playoffs last year.
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  Speaker 2: We're gonna talk about the Tigers, who have just gone
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  Speaker 2: off a cliff since they were in the playoffs here
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  Speaker 2: and Seeta last year. Since that Game five loss, they
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  Speaker 2: are thirteen games under five hundred heading into that series.
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  Speaker 2: The Mariners start in Detroit tonight seven forty five, I said,
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  Speaker 2: we're going to try to talk to Eddie Olcick, our
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  Speaker 2: man on the Stanley Cup Finals leaving Rawleigh and going
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  Speaker 2: through Denver Dallas.
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to get on him about that.
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  Speaker 2: I can't believe he doesn't have a private NonStop the
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  Speaker 2: Great Eddio. But Eddie Olchick will be on talk about
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  Speaker 2: the Stanley Cup Finals about seven to forty five nine o'clock.
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  Speaker 2: John Boyle, friend of mine, longtime Seahawk writer who now
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  Speaker 2: does it for the team's website. He and I will
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  Speaker 2: converse on what we've seen in the Seahawks offseason. He's
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  Speaker 2: the guy who gets to be there when they sign
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  Speaker 2: all the contracts and get the first reaction of Derek
• 11:41
  Speaker 2: Hall and his mother and Jackson Smith and Jig but
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  Speaker 2: breaking a record for wide receiver pay. And we'll talk
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  Speaker 2: to him about those moments. And John Boyle will be
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  Speaker 2: with us around nine o'clock. I'll tell you everything I've
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  Speaker 2: seen heard what Jenarian Price, the rookie first round pick,
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  Speaker 2: is up to and other rookies are up to at
• 11:59
  Speaker 2: Seahawks off and practices. So far, we've already talked about
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  Speaker 2: the NBA Finals, and of course it's Friday.
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  Speaker 1: So we've got Booze News. Yeah, we do old fashions again.
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  Speaker 5: I brought old fashion or espresso.
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  Speaker 1: You get a choice to whoa yeah, special martini.
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  Speaker 3: It's yeah, it's like a bourbon espresso martini already made.
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  Speaker 1: Oh oh oh Andy.
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  Speaker 2: My wife Wendy Bell is not yet at work. She
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  Speaker 2: doesn't usually get to listen to me on my show.
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  Speaker 2: She wouldn't want to anyway, but she's usually working. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: the hospital by ten o'clock at Children's Hospital, so she
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  Speaker 2: gets to hear the show today.
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  Speaker 5: Nice.
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  Speaker 2: Now we got to get her, well, can she get
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  Speaker 2: down here at ninety five Booze.
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  Speaker 5: News, Yeah, espresso, Send her on down there.
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  Speaker 1: You go, hunh you heard it. The call is out.
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  Speaker 1: We'll do bos News at nine nine thirty.
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  Speaker 2: We're going to be bringing you into the show that
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  Speaker 2: took coma dodge text line four nine four five one.
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  Speaker 2: We'll ask questions through out the show. Get your chance
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  Speaker 2: to be a part of it. We'll read back your
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  Speaker 2: text around nine thirty or so.
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  Speaker 1: So, yeah, what do you guys do when the marriage
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  Speaker 1: don't plan in the spring?
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  Speaker 5: Uh, we have to find other things to talk about.
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  Speaker 5: I know it is weird, but it luckily only happens
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  Speaker 5: once a week.
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  Speaker 3: It's usually on a Friday, and usually well, especially lately,
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  Speaker 3: even when they haven't played, they've left us with plenty
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  Speaker 3: of stories, so there's still been a lot to talk about, right,
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  Speaker 3: and then this week, yeah, all the Miles Garrett talked too.
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  Speaker 3: There was all so we make it through.
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  Speaker 2: By the way out at Seahawks. Here's the synopsis of
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  Speaker 2: the attitude about the Miles gear.
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  Speaker 1: I'd love to hear that acquisition of the Rams.
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  Speaker 2: We can talk more about it during the show too,
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  Speaker 2: But the basic gist from Mike McDonald is Jared Versus
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  Speaker 2: was a great player, is a great player, and we're
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  Speaker 2: not going to miss game planning against him. Of course,
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  Speaker 2: they've hit game plan against Miles Garrett. Mike McDonald used
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  Speaker 2: to game plan quite a bit. It's not He was
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  Speaker 2: a defensive coordinator for the Ravens in the AFC North
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  Speaker 2: against the Browns twice a year, so he didn't directly
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  Speaker 2: he was worried about the Browns offense, but he saw
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  Speaker 2: enough of Miles Garrett preparing for Browns Ravens games to
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  Speaker 2: know how good the two time Defensive Player of.
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  Speaker 1: The Year is.
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  Speaker 2: But basically McDonald and the Seahawks attitude is versus a
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  Speaker 2: great player that we no longer have in the division,
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  Speaker 2: and we'll deal with Garrett and so be it.
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  Speaker 1: The Rams are loading up, We're the defending champs. Let's
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  Speaker 1: go all right. It's that's basically the attitude. It's about us,
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  Speaker 1: it's about our process.
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  Speaker 2: Of course, the Rams are going to try to improve
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  Speaker 2: or do things to get to us. And the other
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  Speaker 2: thing actually that they have talked about in McDonald mentioned
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  Speaker 2: again yesterday, we don't play the Rams till Christmas for
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  Speaker 2: the first time. So I think I brought this up
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  Speaker 2: with you on the show yesterday. They have so many
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  Speaker 2: other things to worry about until they get to the
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  Speaker 2: Rams in what weeks fifteen or sixteen, whatever it is
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  Speaker 2: Christmas Day here in Seattle, that five fifteen national TV
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  Speaker 2: game on Christmas that the Rams are just okay, whatever,
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  Speaker 2: we got training camp in fourteen games before that and rosters.
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  Speaker 3: And yeah, not only that, but yeah, by the time
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  Speaker 3: you get to Christmas, I mean, most of your football
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  Speaker 3: season has been played, so you've got a lot can happen.
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  Speaker 3: You never know what what kind of team you're facing
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  Speaker 3: on Christmas Day. You never know what kind of team
• 15:02
  Speaker 3: you are on Christmas Day?
• 15:04
  Speaker 1: Right, right?
• 15:05
  Speaker 2: I mean Miles Garrett's not twenty years old. Will he
• 15:08
  Speaker 2: be playing and healthy on Christmas Day? Well, everybody that
• 15:12
  Speaker 2: is currently playing for the Seahawks and Rams be healthy
• 15:15
  Speaker 2: after fifteen fourteen car crashes before that Christmas Day game.
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's easy and it's fun for us.
• 15:23
  Speaker 2: To talk about and project it onto and the News Tribune,
• 15:25
  Speaker 2: my editor asked me last night to do an analysis
• 15:28
  Speaker 2: story on what that trade does to the division and
• 15:31
  Speaker 2: to the Seahawks, the Rams getting Miles Garrett. But the
• 15:35
  Speaker 2: gist of it is whatever with the Seahawks because I mean, whatever,
• 15:39
  Speaker 2: we'll play whoever we have to play. And they but
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: they have noted that Jared Verse was and I know
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: this for a fact that I've talked about and written this.
• 15:47
  Speaker 2: The Seahawks game plans against the Rams offensively had a.
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: Lot of Jared Verse in it.
• 15:52
  Speaker 5: That makes sense.
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: They knew where he.
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: Was, They had blocking seams for him, they had protection
• 15:57
  Speaker 2: calls for him, they had hot reads again for his
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: rushes off the edge. Yeah, there was a not that
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: there won't be for Miles Garrett and everybody else the
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: Ram tie back. But yes, that's a sizable loss for
• 16:09
  Speaker 2: the Rams. They get a big game, but they also
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: have a sizeable loss.
• 16:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and good for Cleveland and getting Verse because they're
• 16:16
  Speaker 3: I think he can really help them in the stage
• 16:18
  Speaker 3: that they're at with their team.
• 16:19
  Speaker 5: And it is interesting.
• 16:19
  Speaker 3: We got a text because we talked about this yesterday
• 16:21
  Speaker 3: and asked our question of the day was does the
• 16:24
  Speaker 3: Rams getting Miles Garrett change your opinion or confidence level
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: in how in the Seahawks.
• 16:30
  Speaker 5: Season, And one person brought up a great point.
• 16:33
  Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, their defense got better, but their special
• 16:35
  Speaker 3: teams hasn't gotten better, and that's one thing they were
• 16:37
  Speaker 3: terrible at. And look at what the Seahawks are focusing
• 16:39
  Speaker 3: on still, right.
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: They spent fifty one million on special teams to bring
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: Rashid shi Heed back. That was a special teams move.
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: They've re signed most of their special team stall War,
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: Brady Russell, Yeah, Eric Salbert is back.
• 16:51
  Speaker 5: They brought in the guy from the Jets.
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: Yes, they have added.
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: Yes, they drafted and for special teams as well, and
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: the rookie wide receiver from Kansas, so that yes, we're
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: gonna also talk about during the show the Seahawks. It's
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: remarkable Cooper couples looking up at the super Bowl banner
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: they just hung in the indoor facility yesterday. We were
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: talking to him in the indoor facility and about forty
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: five yards in front of him was this giant Super
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: Bowl banner and on the banner has all the names
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: of all the players.
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: On the active roster last year. Forty nine of those
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: fifty three names are back.
• 17:27
  Speaker 5: That is awesome.
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: That's unheard of in this free agency Super Bowl era,
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: the unrestricted free agency guys wanting to get paid and
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: go get mine, and they lost Kenneth Walker and Cody
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: Bryan and Riek Wohland and boy Mafe.
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: I mean they're not completely whole. But aside from those
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: four regular and.
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: Dreik Young who went to the Raiders their special teams
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: gunner and part time wide receiver.
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: That's about it.
• 17:52
  Speaker 5: Yeah, which is crazy.
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: Twenty of twenty two starters are returning from a Super
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: Bowl team.
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: Well, and that just shows you too, the like what
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: you talked about when you joined us yesterday, the culture
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: that Mike McDonald is building, and how important it is
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: for those players to stay there and to continue to work.
• 18:08
  Speaker 5: And see what they're going to. How many Super Bowls,
• 18:09
  Speaker 5: they can really win.
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: Derek Hall talked about that. Yeah, that the reason he
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: did not go to free agency. He knew what the
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: market was. He knew Boy Mafey, whom the Seahawks said
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: it was not as good to their system as Derek Hall. Obviously,
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: they chose to let Mafey walk for twenty million a
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: year to Cincinnati.
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: Derek Hall saw that contract.
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: He saw that I could have gotten probably twenty million
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: or more a year next year or in the spring
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: when his rookie contract ended. He didn't have to sign
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: right now. That second contract. I think we talked about this.
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: That second contract is why guys play football from fifteen
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: sixteen years old, when they're doing captain's practices in two
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: A days and way training at six am and running
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: the stadium stairs and spring practices in college, they do
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: it for the second NFL contract. The first one's great,
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: especially if you get drafted. It's four years, and if
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: you're in the first round, it's good money. But the
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: generational wealth comes at that second contract. And if you
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: get to free agency, now you're talking bidding wars and
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: signing bonuses and fifty sixty eighty one hundred million dollars
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: depending on how good you are. That's why they do
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: what they do. That's why they sacrifice and take painkilling
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: injections for that second contract. And instead of going into
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: seeing how much that value could rise in the market.
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: For Derek Hall, he said, I love this culture.
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: I asked him about it, and he said culture is
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: more importantly than money.
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: And not that fourteen million a year is something he
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: won't be able to get by on.
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: But relatives stuff on the table, absolutely yes, which players
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: don't do in professional sports because you never know when
• 19:47
  Speaker 4: those paychecks stop, right and in the NFL and non
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: guaranteed except for the year you're in one injury, one plane,
• 19:54
  Speaker 4: that's it.
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: And your warning potential could completely u turn. So guys,
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: especially twenty five years old, get all they can when
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: they can because they don't know what's going to end.
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: And Derek Hall didn't do that, and he said, point
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: blank Mike McDonald's culture, I know what I'm going to
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: get when I come to work. I know they love me,
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: they drafted me, They've given me this opportunity.
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: I want to stay. I want to win super Bowls here.
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: Why am I going to go chase a few more
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: dollars somewhere else for an opportunity that won't be nearly
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: as good as the one I have right now. Grass
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: ain't always greener exactly, And Derek Hall said, I'm staying.
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: And the culture you just mentioned actually that you can't.
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: People say, well, the culture that's not it's just intangible.
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: We can't you can quantify it in something like this.
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: Keeping players like Derek Hall, so Jackson Smith and Jigba
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: just one hundred and sixty eight million, but if he
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: went into a free agency and let his rookie contract
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: end after being an All Pro and a Player of
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: the Year, he could have gotten two hundred million. Devin Witherspoon,
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: We're going to talk about him. He is on the field,
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: he is there. He was doing more drills yesterday than
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: I had seen him do the day before and previously.
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: But he's still not doing full go scrimmaging as it were,
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: whatever those are in June practices and shorts, and there's
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: a reason for that. We'll talk about that as well
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: when we come back. I'll mention what I've seen at
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: the positions of very few competitions, such as lead running back,
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: perhaps safety, perhaps right guard. I'll talk to you what
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: we've seen there, and then we'll talk more about the
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: Seahawks plan for the rest of the offseason. Heading into
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: training camp. Seven oh five, we'll go to Detroit. We'll
• 21:33
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• 21:35
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• 21:38
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• 21:41
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  Speaker 2: So what have I been doing the last week. I've
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: been out at Seahawks headquarters watching practice because that's my
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: job for the News Tribune, and because the Seahawks are
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: Super Bowl Champions. It takes on a little more heft
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: when the Super Bowl Champions are practicing in June rather
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: than than a regular football team in June. But they're
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: still just in T shirts and shorts and helmets and
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: no contact. And Mike McDonald has spent a lot of
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: time this week actually getting on the guys about the tempo,
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: not to go faster, but actually go slower. Oh really,
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: he wants He has stopped practiced a couple times. He
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: did again yesterday yelling about the tempo in the execution
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: and how he just does not want them to do
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: too much. Okay, he does not want to risk an injury.
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: That's why Devin Witherspoon is not practicing. It's not scrimmaging,
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: I should say, for the most part. I'll talk about
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: what he did yesterday, little warm yesterday the day before.
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: But the point is McDonald has had to reel these
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: guys back. They're so familiar with the system now, especially
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: on defense third year for McDonald, that they tend to
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: go faster than they should at this point of the
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: year because they know it so well. And I mentioned
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: the continuity forty nine to fifty three coming back twenty
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: of twenty two starters. So they're like, yeah, we don't
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: need this install. We got this install. We did this
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: last year. Well, McDonald has changed things. He is changing
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: some fronts. He has to say he's.
• 24:44
  Speaker 5: Never going to leave things just as they were.
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: He has the counter to the counter that the league,
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: this is a copycat league, as we hear all the time,
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: and nobody copies teams more than the Super Bowl champions. Right,
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: once you win a Super Bowl, your film is getting
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: studied all off season by even if they're not on
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: your schedule. And not to mention, guys like Clint Kubiak
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: and coaches get hired by other teams who take that
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: influence to in Kubiak's case, the Raiders as a first
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: time head coach. So all of a sudden, the Seahawks
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: ways start spreading through the league after you win a
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: Super Bowl. So McDonald needs counters to that, and he's
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: already got a couple. And I have noticed on defense
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: they are doing some different things already. They have some
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: different fronts. Jared Ivy remember that name. Yeah, he was
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: an outside linebacker and an undrafted rookie last year that
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: they thought so highly of that even though he wasn't
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: active for any game day. They kept him on the
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: active roster all season so that he would not be
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: exposed to waivers trying to get him to the practice squad.
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: He was such a fine they thought at outside linebacker
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: that they didn't want to risk losing him to another team.
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: And if they put him on practice squad, that would
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: enable another team to sign him to their active roster
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: during the season and they lose them without any recourse.
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: That's the practice squad rules. A guy gets signed by
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: can be signed. They're essentially free agents on the practice
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: squad for the active roster of other teams. So they
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: kept him on the active roster the whole season without
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: him playing a game a snap, and we were all wondering,
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: what is he a photos of somebody?
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: Whatn't wish?
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: Well, that's how highly they thought of JAREDI. Well, guess
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: what Jared Ivy is playing defensive line right now. I've
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: seen him in defensive end drills. I saw him line
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: up as a three to five technique defensive.
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: Tackle and pass rush yesterday. They're changing things for Jared Ivy.
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: He is a long, leaner edge rushing type outside edge
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: rushing defensive Lineman. Think DeMarcus Lawrence, who's thirty four and
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: coming in for his thirteenth NFL season, Because Lawrence hasn't
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: been participating in all of these they're voluntary, and he's
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: on his plan of being a dad for six children.
• 26:48
  Speaker 5: That is a lot. I'm a mom of one, I
• 26:51
  Speaker 5: hear you.
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: No, he can't do it, two of which are one
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: year old and younger.
• 26:55
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it makes me tired just thinking about it.
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: Can you imagine?
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: No?
• 26:59
  Speaker 5: I really can't.
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: Actually, I'm hoping like the oldest one is old enough
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: to help with the younger ones.
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: So when we ask him, hey.
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: Why haven't you been around the off season, he kind
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: of was like, what are you talking about? My wife
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: just had a baby the day after the Super Bowl,
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: her sixth child, and we have two one year old
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: and unders at home on top of four other kids. Nope,
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: JaMarcus Lawrence has his priorities in order. He's making sure
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: he's home with mom and his wife because that's where
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: he has to live the rest of his life.
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, not to mention to be a good, responsible dad.
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: But with DeMarcus Lawrence gone, Jared Ivy has moved into
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: his type of spot on the edge of the defensive line.
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: I have noticed that it's one different.
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: So there.
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: My point is McDonald, to Ashley's point, is not just
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: standing Pat, we won the Super Bowl.
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: Let's just run it back with the same stuff he
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: is changing.
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: Okay, so people have been asking me, well, first, let's
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: get to the schedule. I mentioned the off season OTAs
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: and did yesterday. They're off this weekend that we put
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: back Monday for physicals and the mandatory poor of the
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: off season. It's the only four days they have to
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: be there by contract. Yeah, and then they have three
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: practices maybe two. I wouldn't put past McDonald that he
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: will cancel the last day on Thursday, and then they're
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: off until it looks like July twenty fifth, give or
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: take a day or two.
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: Is going to be the start of training camp. Okay,
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: you can do fifteen.
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: Days back from the first preseason game, which is August
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: the fifteenth against.
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: It's a great day, Dallas Cowboys.
• 28:27
  Speaker 5: It's my birthday, Happy birthday on August thirteenth. Yeah.
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: Thanks, Well I can say it on June fifth.
• 28:32
  Speaker 5: Right, Yeah, obviously.
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: I mean that's more than I think I ever get
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: because I don't ever talk about my birthday.
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: And so I am going to make a note of
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: that and our show.
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: We're going to celebrate your birthday, and your show should
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: celebrate your birthday.
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: I won't be here. No, I play in a golf
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: tournament that same like all every year on.
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: That back in California.
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: No here, Real Creek. Yeah, the Women's Invitational. So I
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: always get I always take the day off so that
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: I can play in a tournament.
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: Are you the mayor of Mill Creek and we just
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: don't call you that?
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: I am definitely not, definitely not, but I I'm friends
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: with people that should be the mayor of Mill Creek.
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: Well, okay, Ashley Ryan will not be at the seahawks
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: first preseason game.
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: I will not.
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: But you can go back a couple of weeks from
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: the first preseason game and start doing the math by
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: CBA rules when you start training camp and when they report.
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: McDonald has the rookies report a couple of days ahead
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: of the veterans, which Pete Carroll never did.
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: They all report on the same day day before practices.
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: McDonald does it the more old school way of rookies
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: come in a couple of days before the veterans. So
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: all that is to say around July twenty fifth will
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: looks like to start a training camp. Then the August
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: fifteenth is the first preseason game against the Cowboys. The
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: next week they play on a Sunday, a preseason game
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: in Nashville, Tennessee. McDonald wants to have joint practices game. Yeah,
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: he's only probably gonna have one day, though. He's learned
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: his lesson that when we went two days joint practice
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: in Nashville a couple.
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: Of years ago. Yeah, the second one was just a
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: free for all.
• 29:54
  Speaker 5: I was gonna say, wasn't it just fight after it?
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: It was the melee. It was like Nascar without the cars.
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: We were just fighting and wrecking and it was just
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: the mayhem. So I think McDonald's learned his lesson. They
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: did one day in Green Bay last year before the
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: preseason game there. They're probably going to do one gay
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: one day in Nashville, which is bad news for us
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: on the beat. Give me as many days as possible
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: in Nashville, Tennessee, please.
• 30:17
  Speaker 5: Right, especially if you got to fly there.
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: Yes, And I had told Mike McDonald.
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: I joked with him after the Super Bowl when we
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: were just sitting around BS and I said.
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: Hey, are you gonna do the joint practice thing again?
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: He said, yeah, we are. I said, can you do
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: me a favorite? Not do green Bay again?
• 30:32
  Speaker 4: Because green Bay in August is not fune.
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: I was there for four days. It was not fun. Yeah,
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: and there's nothing there. I love the people of Green Bay,
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: but let's just face it. It's green Bay, Wisconsin. But Nashville, Tennessee,
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: now you're talking, Yeah, bring on the fun. We spent
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: five days in Nashville and that was a blast, to
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: say the least. And so I said, how about going
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: to Nashville again? He goes, that's a good idea, And
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: sure enough, they're going to Nashville again and they're going
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: to probably have a joint practice. Haven't announced it yet,
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: but it looks like the Seahawks have a joint practice
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: in Nashville, Tennessee with the Titans, probably two days before
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: that game on the twenty third of August, the Sunday
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: game in Tennessee, So Friday the twenty first ish, look
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: for a joint practice between the Seahawks and Titans and
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: Nashville before they play the second preseason game, then the
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: third preseason game.
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: I think it's against the.
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: Raiders or no, the Chiefs at the Chiefs, which any
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: read doesn't do joint practices, So that's why it has
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: to be with the Titans. And so then you're into
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: the season. Labor Day weekend rosters set. I think it's
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: the Friday before Labor Day weekend. This year they've changed
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: that date. I mentioned forty nine of the fifty three
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: for the active roster are back. So where are the
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: spots of competition? Lead running back? We all know Kenneth
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: Walker left. Here's what I see a lead running back.
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: George Hallane has been the number one running back, not
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: Jadarian Price, and people are like, what.
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: You drafted a rookie running back in the first round
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: and he's not starting.
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: They are slow playing the rookies across the board shooting
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: Price and they are nodding till Hallani being in the
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: third year and knowing the system and coming back. Even
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: though Brian Flourt's a new offensive coordinator, it's still outside zone.
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: So Hallani has been the running back one, and then
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: Price has come in later in scrimmaging at the end
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: of the days to get some reps with the ones.
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: But it has been Price noticeably second Charbonnay and mcinash
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: are still out. McIntosh knee injury in July. Sharbondair, of course,
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: the reconstructive knee surgery after his injury in the playoff
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: game in January, and here we're early in June, so
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: we've talked before. He may not be till September or October.
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: Haven't seen Emmanuel Wilson the Green Bay. I've seen him
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: on the field, but I haven't seen him do much
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: scrimmage okay with the Ones. Interesting in free agent from
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: Green Bay. Safety Tyle Kotta seems to be the Air
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: because he started eleven games last year when Julian Love
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: was hurt in a couple of games that Kobe Bryant
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: mess Bryant signing with the Bears in the off season,
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: Bud Clark their second round pick. He's knocking on the door.
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: They're still still playing him too, but he is with
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: the Ones and drilling with the Ones. Yesterday, at the
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: end of practice they split. They put the ones on
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: one end of the field to do a barely walk
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: through type jog tempo shadow scrimmaging they call it, and
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: then the other end were the twos, and it was
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: noticeable that Neil, the third round pick, was with the twos,
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: the safety, the corner, excuse me, the corner, the safety.
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: Bud Clark was with the ones.
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: He stayed up.
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: The rookie stayed with the starters, although Akata was the
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: first one on the field with Julian Love.
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: So Clark is right.
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: There knocking on a door, and that looks like a
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: training camp competition right there. They're also using Bud Clark
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: inside outside, They're moving him around almost like a Nicky
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: Mnwari piece.
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: So far that I've noticed, right guard.
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: Anthony Bradford remains the starter I mentioned at the top.
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: Yesterday he didn't practice. He had ice on his knee
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: Wednesday stood out the end of that practice.
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: So Christian Haynes has been the right guar remember him.
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: He's had four chances to win the right guard job
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: and failed every time for three different line codes. Christian
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: Haynes has been the starting right guard when Bradford has not.
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: It hasn't been both Stevens noticeably, but Stevens has been
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: working as the right guard, not the left. He was
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: a two year All American in Iowa and left guard.
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: He last played right guard as a sophomore for the Hawkeyes.
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: The Seahawks traded up and drafted him in the fifth round,
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: and they have him starting at well beginning. I won't
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: say starting, because Bradford's a starter. He's beginning his NFL
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: career at right guard, but not as a start. He's
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: third string right now, behind Haines and Bradford.
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: But it's only June. I think that'll change once training
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: camp starts. I don't know that.
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: We'll see I won't say, but we'll see if Stevens
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: challenges for the job. I think it could be something
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: of a competition. At the very least, they want to
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: see what they have there beyond Anthony Bradford's final year
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: of his contract, whether they want to resign Bradford or not.
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: And that makes sense, especially yet to have a if
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: a rookie can step into it and you don't have
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: to go get a vet and pay him more.
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: Up next, let's talk about Russell Wilson's for the Hall
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: of Fame?
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: Shall we?
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: We'll ask your four nine, four to five one I
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: asked yesterday, I'll ask you again today and the Koma
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: Dodge text line, do you think Russell Wilson is a
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: Hall of Famer it's an interesting case. It's not is
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: more to it than meets the eye. There's a comp
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: with a quarterback who had the same tenure with one team,
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: who appeared in the same number of Super Bowls and
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: won the same number of Super Bowls that Russell who
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: is in the Hall of Fame, and Russell Wilson has
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: better numbers than him. We'll talk about that next on
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: ninety three point three KJRFM. Welcome back to what sounds
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: like maybe the Game of Thrones portion.
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: Of the show.
• 35:48
  Speaker 5: It's just dramatic music.
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: It is dramatic music. Ashley Ryan playing the tunes.
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: Greg Bell the news should being pinch hitting for Chuck Powell.
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: Bucky Jacobson is still out, though the Mariners announced he
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: is going to be part of the home run derby
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: the Mariners are putting on for alumni former players August seventh, Yes.
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: Before the game against the Tampa Bay Rays.
• 36:07
  Speaker 5: That will be quite the adventure.
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: It will be Pendleton's finest Pendleton whiskey. You will have
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: to sponsor the at bats.
• 36:13
  Speaker 5: For Yes, he has him to me, probably quite a
• 36:16
  Speaker 5: bit of it.
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: After I'll shout out to Bucky hopefully he's doing well.
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: Yes, soon we'll talking.
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: I know I can see on the text line because
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: I can read four nine four to five one that
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: the comodadge text line. Some of you are tired of
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: the Russell Wilson conversation already. Of course, those are probably
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: the same people who think Russell Wilson's trips to Seattle
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: children said were useless and had no impact.
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: That we're just grandstanding. Some people are just going to
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: be some people.
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: But I do want to make one point that I
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: brought up yesterday. I thought I was worth bringing up
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: again on a comp Russell Wilson the Hall of Fame talk.
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: Of is Russell Wilson a Hall of Famer?
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: I think he's really close. In fact, I think he's
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: one yard away from being a Hall of That's how close.
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: If he won a second.
• 37:01
  Speaker 5: Super Bowl hurts my heart every time.
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: But yeahah, I'm sorry to bring it up. I was there,
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: and yeah, I know.
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: John McGrath turned to me the Steam columnists for the
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: News Tribune sitting next to me in the press box,
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: and Glenn Dale, and he said, Greg, we just saw
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: the worst play call in Super Bowl history.
• 37:15
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it was pretty bad.
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: I said, John, there's your column as my head was
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: down and I started cranking on the game story. But
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: Russell Wilson has an interesting case when you look. Let's
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: talk about the quarterbacks who have won one Super Bowl
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: and only won Super Bowl in their careers, yet are
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: in the Hall of Fame. Joe Namath, Glenn Dawson, Johnny Uniteds,
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: though most of Johnny Unitas's career was before the Super
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: Bowl era, before nineteen sixty seven.
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: Johnny Knightis won one.
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: Brett fav won one, went to Multi one one, but
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: he had multiple NFL MVP awards.
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: Kurt Warner who.
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: We know one with the Rams and the greatest show
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: on turf. Then he went back remember later in his
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: career with the Arizona Cardinals and they lost to the
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: Steelers in Tampa in the Super Bowl. He won one
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: Super Bowl but MFL MVP awards, which Russell Wilson did not.
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: And the other one Ashley is ken Stabler, the former
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: gun slinging lefty from the Oakland Raiders, And when you
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: look at Ken Stabler's career, it remarkably parallels Russell Wilson.
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: Ken Stabler played ten years for the Oakland Raiders in
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: the nineteen seventies, Russell Wilson played ten years for the
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: Seahawks his first ten. Stabler's first ten in the NFL
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: were with Oakland and then Stable kind of petered out
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: his career. He went three years to the New Orleans Saints,
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: mostly forgettable for bad teams, and then two years with
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: the Houston Oilers and he was done. Of course, Russell Wilson,
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: after he left first ten years the Seattle, he went
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: to two years to Denver disaster. One year with the
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: Steelers started great, ended with a five game losing streak.
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: Steelers gave up on him, and then of course the
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: Giants when he started the first couple games, and then
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: Jackson and Dark came in the Rick Prize rookie, and
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: that was the end of Russell Wilson's time in New
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: York and in fact his NFL career. Now he's going
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: to be on the NFL today for CBS Sports. So
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: the similar trajectory ten years of the first job was
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: his best job. Like Stabler, he won one Super Bowl,
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: Wilson went to two, Stabler only went to one. Stabler's
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: career record ninety six wins, forty nine losses in a tie.
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: Russell Wilson one hundred and twenty one wins eighty losses
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: in a tie, Stabler threw one hundred and ninety four
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: touchdown passes against two hundred and twenty two interceptions. Wilson
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: threw three hundred and fifty three touchdown passes against one
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: hundred and fourteen interceptions, almost half as many interceptions. Yes,
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: now I get it, different game, different eras, passing offenses.
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: Sure, liberalized passing rules.
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: Defenders can't take your head off the mel Blunt rule
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: in nineteen seventy eight, and Stabler played against defensive backs
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: who could absolutely mall receivers. Now, I get all of that,
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: but this is what the Hall of Fame is, right,
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: You put players in from different eras. That's just what
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: it is. That's a nature of the Hall of Fame.
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: So Wilson's way ahead and touchdowns, interception ratio, completion percentage stay.
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: But it was fifty nine point eight Russell Wilson sixty
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: four point six. The average record of a regular season game,
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: a regular season that Stabler started eleven and six Russell
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: Wilson ten and seven. Pushed down, of course, by the
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: final few seasons with the Broncos, Steelers and the Giants,
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: The point is when you and this is what the
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: Hall of famers do. Hall of Fame voters, I should say,
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: do Mike Sando, my former colleague at the News Tribune
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: now with the Athletic, is one of them. Tacoma area,
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: Seattle area guy, friend of the show, friend of the station.
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: He's a he's a Hall of Fame voter. The Hall
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: of Fame voters.
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: Get together at Super Bowl week every year and vote
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: and discuss exactly this comps, who do we have already
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: in the Hall of Fame, and how does this candidate compare?
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: And this is what they do. Well, here's ken Stable
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: and those and so Hall of Fame.
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: Of the fifty voters, each candidate finalist gets a voter
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: that is assigned to him, usually from the home market
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: or home area or experience covering him. And the presenter,
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: for the case of Russell Wilson would likely make this
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: case I just made Ken Stabler. We put Ken Stabler
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: in the Hall of Fame. Here's Russell Wilson's number against
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: Ken Stabler. It's just it is interesting when you do
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: the comps. Now you can go down this rabbit hole
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: and find comps that Wilson is not as favorable for
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: for guys that are in the Hall of Fame as well.
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: Of course you can't, but it is true that they
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: do comps the players that are already in. And it's
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: also true that it is a very very thin margin
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: between one and two Super Bowls of quarterbacks who get
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: in and don't. When you win two Super Bowls, you're
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: on your way, and that could be how close this
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: is for Russell Wilson.
• 41:58
  Speaker 5: Well, I definitely think it's going to be close.
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: I think I don't think he's getting in in the
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: next I don't think he's getting in in the first
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: five years he's eligible, or first three years he's.
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: Five years from the time he retires. Officially, Yes, I
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: agree with you, he's not a first ballot Hall of Famer,
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: but it's close of whether he gets in at all four,
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: nine four or five one. To coma Dodge text line,
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: we'll read back your text at nine thirty. Do you
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: think Russell Wilson is a Hall of Famer based on
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: the Ken stab komp or anything else you want to
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: talk about.
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: Let's go to the Mariners next. They're in Detroit.
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: So is Cody Stavenhagen, Tiger's beat writer, for the Athletic.
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: He will join us on the Beacon Plumbing Hotline next
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: to talk Mariners Tigers in the weekend series in Detroit
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: on ninety three point three KJRFM