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Kind Words vs. Real Support | Episode 451 · Voices for Voices®

• 0:02
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Hi everyone, it's Justin here, Voices for Voices.
• 0:05
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Thank you so much for joining us on this and our now over 450 episodes of the Voices for Voices TV show and podcast.
• 0:19
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Thank you for watching.
• 0:21
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Thank you for listening.
• 0:22
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: No matter where you are, if you're in the United States or in a country, territory, province across the world, we're all human beings and uh we are bringing people together, we're uniting people, we're not dividing people, and that's one of the main uh one of the main pillars uh that is built on the foundation of mental health, mental illness, trauma, recovery.
• 0:53
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Um if you can help us spread the word about voices for voices and our TV show and podcast, we would greatly appreciate that.
• 1:03
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: If you could reach out to 25, 50, maybe 100 of your contacts in your phone, let them know about the Voices for Voices TV show and podcast.
• 1:14
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: We're third behind the Joe Rogan experience and the Dan Bon Gino show.
• 1:20
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And it's only because of you that is helping us reach at least three billion people over the course of my lifetime and beyond.
• 1:33
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And with your help, we have gotten here.
• 1:37
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: With your help, we can reach people in over 300 countries, territories, provinces.
• 1:46
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: We're well over one hundred, and we're well over uh eleven hundred cities across this great planet Earth.
• 1:59
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: So we want to say thank you as always.
• 2:03
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Uh with without your support, without uh, without your demand to to watch and listen, we wouldn't have a show.
• 2:12
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: We wouldn't have a reason to come to you, to share, to talk.
• 2:15
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Uh many times, as you know, uh, especially for those uh returning viewers and listeners.
• 2:23
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Again, let me just reiterate, we a 501c nonprofit charity, 501c3 nonprofit charity organization with literally like one staff, and that's me, uh, that shoots these episodes, that edits, that drops them.
• 2:46
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Uh we have a lot of help.
• 2:50
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Um, but 90 or 90 percent of the work falls on my shoulders.
• 2:58
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: So I am very happy to have you with us, whether this is your first show or you've been with us all 400 and now 451.
• 3:09
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: This is the 451st show of the Voices for Voices TV show and podcast.
• 3:15
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: We don't have a huge staff, like the Dan Poncino show, and then like the Joe Rogan experience.
• 3:22
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And so that's what makes this so uh so much uh so remarkable, so incredible, uh, an incredible feat to get to this point.
• 3:34
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Um, and we're here to help.
• 3:36
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Uh you've heard me say many, many, many, many times that uh this part of my life on is help helping people.
• 3:45
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: That's that's what we're that's what we're here for.
• 3:49
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Uh the first say the first half of my life, I uh I didn't I didn't focus a lot of time on helping people.
• 4:02
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I spent a lot of time on myself.
• 4:08
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And while there's still days and times and and uh and points where I do uh focus on myself, a lot of it is uh self-care, um instead of just having that ego.
• 4:32
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Uh so thank you.
• 4:35
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Thank you for joining us.
• 4:37
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: This is I I do I spend five minutes or so at the beginning of each show just thanking each and every one of you because without you, we wouldn't have an audience, we wouldn't have viewers, we wouldn't have listeners.
• 4:50
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Uh we we try to keep politics out and culture in.
• 4:56
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: So we cover a lot of hard topics, a lot of tough topics humanly, and we also talk about areas of the world that others won't.
• 5:09
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Um, and we look at that from a cultural perspective, not a political perspective, because we're all we're all human beings, and and so no matter where a person um lives, uh no matter what government, what type of government uh their country, territory, province has, uh we we have to include everybody.
• 5:38
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And and so we do.
• 5:41
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Uh we we get great feedback, and I want to thank you for the feedback you've you've been giving us over the gone on three years.
• 5:51
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Um it's uh it's incredible to think uh where we're where we're at.
• 5:58
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Uh and and so we're gonna we're gonna get it started finally.
• 6:03
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: So there's a lot of a lot of things going on uh here voices for voices and across the world.
• 6:13
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I um you know there's there's military things going on, there's uh non-military things going on.
• 6:26
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Uh but again, we just have to stay together as a as a human race.
• 6:33
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: We have to we have to stay together and we have to be for peace.
• 6:39
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: We want peace.
• 6:43
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: We don't we don't want war.
• 6:45
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Uh we we want to help people, not unite or help and unite, not divide people.
• 6:56
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And if that's the only thing that you take away from this show in this particular episode, then that's fantastic.
• 7:06
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Uh to to be able to uh to do that.
• 7:11
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And a lot of people have tried.
• 7:13
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: A lot of people, you know, there's a lot of lip service of well, we want peace and we want to help people.
• 7:20
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Uh let me tell you, it is a sham what is going on with a lot of these nonprofits and a lot of these organizations that people are pointed to when they are in crisis, when they are in need.
• 7:41
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Uh what do I mean by a sham?
• 7:46
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I mean they're not helping, not helping.
• 7:52
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: They're more concerned on statistics on how many people called in.
• 7:59
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Um not how many people are we directly helping, and we're continuing after this phone call.
• 8:12
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And I'm speaking from experience.
• 8:15
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: There's a lot of organizations that we're you know, we're being pointed to when you know if there's if there's an issue, if there's a problem go going on, you know, we're we're supposed to be pointed to organizations and people that can help, not hurt, not just be the status quo, but actually help.
• 8:41
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And I think that's the big takeaway for for this show.
• 8:46
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Um, we've spoken about this before, but it's so important because it's still happening at this very moment where we reach out.
• 8:58
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: You know, somebody says, Oh, reach out to organization XYZ, they'll be able to help you, they'll be able to point you in the right direction, they'll be able to help you because you're going through a very tough, very difficult a situation that shouldn't even be happening, frankly.
• 9:20
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And the calls, people are compassionate on the phone for the most part, but being compassionate and executing and helping people is a lot different.
• 9:41
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: So if you call me, I'm just giving an example.
• 9:46
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: You call me, this is an example of an organization, actually, more than one, like tens, uh, if not hundreds.
• 9:56
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Okay.
• 9:57
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Ring ring ring ring.
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  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Hello, this is Justin Allen Hayes with blank blank blank association.
• 10:05
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Um, how can I help you?
• 10:07
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Well, I'm going through this situation.
• 10:11
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Okay, can you tell me a little bit more about it?
• 10:16
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Yes, so this happened, that happened, there's a law here and here, and I was told that you'd be able to help me find maybe maybe I need legal representation, and I don't have any money because I've been taken advantage of for a good part of my life.
• 10:41
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And then here's me.
• 10:43
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Oh, well, um, you know, I'm just a volunteer and I'm just help, you know, I'm just picking up the phone, and I'm sorry to hear that.
• 10:54
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Uh but uh, you know, have you reached out to your you know, your local police?
• 11:02
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Yes, I have.
• 11:04
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Have you reached out to uh the bar at Local Bar Association?
• 11:09
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Yes, I have.
• 11:10
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Um, and and are they are they and were they any help?
• 11:15
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Uh no, they weren't.
• 11:17
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Uh they they want money, right?
• 11:22
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: People want to be paid.
• 11:23
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I get it.
• 11:24
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: But when I hear, so I'm stepping away from my hypothetical call.
• 11:32
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: When I hear, oh yeah, you'll be helped.
• 11:35
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: You call here, that you'll be helped.
• 11:38
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: You'll be helped.
• 11:39
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Help doesn't mean that the phone gets picked up.
• 11:44
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Help doesn't mean that the person sits and listens to a problem that is going on and has been going on for many years, 13, 14 years.
• 11:57
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: That's nice.
• 12:00
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And we're grateful for that.
• 12:03
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: We're thankful that there is somebody that did pick up the phone, but when we talk about execution, when we talk about at the end of the day, when I hang up that phone, am I gonna feel better about my situation or am I gonna feel the same or or or worse?
• 12:26
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Uh and stepping back into the call, well, you know, sorry, you know, we we don't have any you know attorneys on staff.
• 12:37
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Um have you reached out to this other organization?
• 12:42
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Oh, yeah, so we I I reached out to that.
• 12:45
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And were they any help?
• 12:47
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Not really.
• 12:48
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Um, they didn't, they didn't they didn't help me in my situation, yeah.
• 12:52
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: They listen.
• 12:53
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Um, and so yeah, it took up an hour of my time, uh, but there uh there was no help that again, there's no help, there's no legal help.
• 13:07
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Um, I'm being attacked in court, I'm being attacked on TikTok and other social platforms, and so now I'm stepping out of the call because that's how the calls go.
• 13:26
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I've been on probably a hundred calls, if not more.
• 13:32
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: That's exactly how they go.
• 13:34
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And to take it of a a step further, issues, problems, they don't know the day of the week.
• 13:50
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: So to say, oh, okay, call us twenty-four hours a day, seven days a week, well, yeah, you can call and you can probably talk to a person, maybe.
• 13:59
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: But when it's a weekend and you need an I need and others need help, and somebody says, you know, on the other side of the phone says, well, you know, our um whatever, our regular staff will be in on Monday.
• 14:21
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Well, that's great.
• 14:22
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I'm glad they're gonna be in on Monday.
• 14:25
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: But I might not be alive on Monday.
• 14:28
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: You don't understand.
• 14:30
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And then the person on the other side of the phone says, Oh, yes, I do.
• 14:35
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I'm so sorry, I'm not be able to help.
• 14:38
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: But just we we gotta we gotta help people, man.
• 14:46
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: We gotta help people, and we gotta follow through.
• 14:52
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Let's follow through.
• 14:56
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Let's help people.
• 14:57
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Let's help people.
• 15:01
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Can we do that?
• 15:05
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Let's execute and help.
• 15:08
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Give real support, not fluff.
• 15:12
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: It doesn't take a genius to figure this stuff out.
• 15:17
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: So I want the word to get out.
• 15:24
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: We need organizations to follow through that that actually have the resources to help, to help, to help, and to follow through.
• 15:34
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I don't need any more organizations to pick up the phone and tell me, oh, you know, I'm so sorry.
• 15:42
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: We don't need that.
• 15:45
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: We need people that are gonna step behind us.
• 15:48
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: They're gonna they're gonna put us on their shoulders and they're gonna help us until the issue, the problem is done.
• 16:03
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: That somebody is safe.
• 16:07
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: That's all we want.
• 16:10
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Health, safety, security, food, water, clothing, shelter.
• 16:16
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: So let's help make people safer, healthier.
• 16:26
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I feel like they they are cared about.
• 16:32
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Can we do that?
• 16:36
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I think we can.
• 16:38
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And so that's what we're doing.
• 16:40
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: We're echoing what's happening in the world in certain areas, and that's why we're bringing this up because it's such a problem.
• 16:48
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: It's a huge problem.
• 16:50
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Huge problem.
• 16:52
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Somebody says, I'm gonna help you, but yeah, at the end of the day, they they don't.
• 17:00
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And they don't give you the resources besides, oh, we'll call this, call this number, call that number, call that number.
• 17:08
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Well, if anybody's gone through trauma and mental illness and had a panic attack like I've had, the more work you want me to do, the more things, the more panic that I'm gonna get, the more anxious I'm gonna get.
• 17:25
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And that's me.
• 17:28
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I have a great team.
• 17:32
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: There's still times I need others to help me in that you may need help.
• 17:41
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And if you're from one of these organizations, do something, please.
• 17:46
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Don't make these victims, these survivors do all this work and just do lip service.
• 17:57
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: We don't need lip service, we need actual action.
• 18:03
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: We need people to help.
• 18:06
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: We need people to help right now, not tomorrow, not the next day, not on Monday, if it's a Saturday, we need help right now.
• 18:17
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And so if you're an organization and you can't provide that, then you don't then we don't need you as an organization.
• 18:26
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And I say this with all due respect.
• 18:29
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I say this with all due respect.
• 18:33
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: If all you're gonna do is answer the phone and and and just be a listening ear, that's great.
• 18:40
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: That's great to have that listening ear.
• 18:43
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: But at the end of the day, we need help.
• 18:46
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: We need somebody that's gonna step up, step out and help.
• 18:56
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: They're gonna find an attorney to help pro bono.
• 19:00
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: They're gonna help find a counselor that's willing to help with the least amount of action that us as the affected, not infected, affected person.
• 19:19
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: So if you're able to, we are helping people through our show, our podcast.
• 19:29
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: If you're able to, you can donate uh donate to us at lovevoices.org, lovevoices.org, lovevoices.org.
• 19:41
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: This has been Justin Alan Hayes with Voices for Voices.
• 19:45
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Please be a voice for you or somebody in need.
• 19:49
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: We'll see you on the next show.
• 19:51
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Bye bye.