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**PRECIOUS METALS** - 5️⃣ Reasons You Best PAY ATTENTION! · SILVER / GOLD / $UFD: Surviving Global Economic Shifts | RONS BASEMENT

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Next push for the metals to get that bear's
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blindfolded remove is going to come when the bitcoin
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having comes and goes. People
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recognize it didn't go a lot further. People
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start to take profits and they're going to apply it
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to where they've applied it for a couple thousand
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years. Physical metals. Are
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the rallies in gold, silver and the precious metal
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mining stocks just getting started? Are
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we in the early innings? Today
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we have an extra special guest, Peter Grandich is
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joining us. He brings decades of experience
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on Wall Street in financial planning and deep analysis
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of the gold, silver and precious metal mining stock
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sectors to us today. Peter, welcome to Ron's basement.
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Always a pleasure, Ron. I
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see my friend over there. I
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told you I was coming for him with this close. You're
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coming for him. You better worry and what Peter
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is referring to is the gold bear there whose
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blindfold comes off at $2 ,500 gold. Peter,
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I forgot to mention during my intro, darn it, that
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you also over the years were featured as a guest
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on pretty much every major news network out there.
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What a big honor to have you
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joining us here in the basement. Are
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you feeling excited? Are you feeling trepidatious
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about these recent moves we've experienced in the
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precious metals? Let me first respond to what
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you just said, Ronnie. 20 years ago, 25 years ago, I
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would have said I was lowering myself to be
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talking to some guy in the middle of the West and I'm
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not on CNBC or some major investment conferences in
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the world, but let me tell you from the bottom of my
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heart and on the life of my wife and daughter, my
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two most precious things God gave me, I soon will
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be speaking to you now than any of those major
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networks. So I'm happy to be here. I've
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grown to appreciate certain people that I communicate
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with and you are one of them, but that doesn't mean
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I'm still not coming for that freaking bear. It's
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right. Well, yeah, it's a big honor for
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us, Peter. I'll throw in one last thing.
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You were, when I started this
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channel two years ago, you were what I consider to my
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first big time guest and from there things have
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blossomed and I've had the real benefit of getting to
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meet some other high quality people, but in my
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mind, you are still my number one big time guest.
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So thank you for being here.
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And when I look at the silver
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and gold price, remember those movies Rocky, remember
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the Rocky movies, Peter? And
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Rocky's always, seems like the story line's always the
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same. He's in a big fight and he
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keeps getting knocked down. He
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keeps getting knocked down and he keeps coming back
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up. And it feels like to me that
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something has changed. And maybe it started back in
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December of last year. Maybe
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it's just been in the last five or six weeks with the
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gold and silver market and how it's reacting. I
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think we even saw that this morning, we're
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recording this on Wednesday, the 10th of April, 2024.
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We had CPI numbers come out
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that knocked down the price of gold. And
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right before we came on, it came bouncing back.
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Like, it's like Rocky, it just
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keeps fighting back. Do you feel like maybe things
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are a little different right now? Well,
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I think it's important that we regress just a little
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and understand that we did not, I shouldn't say we, I
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know you fit into this criteria. I
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certainly do some others. Because
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we also had very large exposure to mining shares
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and junior resource stocks up until a few weeks ago.
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For the previous two years, we
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were depressed even though the metals themselves were
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performing extremely well. In
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fact, as they performed stronger and our shares
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didn't, we've got more depressed. Of
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course. And as I said to you before,
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we won't hear this again for decades. We
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would speak at the major find a gold conferences and
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all the speakers would say the same thing. Owning
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mining shares is just like owning gold. Oh,
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we learned that was not the case, but it depressed
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us and we didn't fully appreciate how well the
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physical metal prices were performing. Now,
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I'll also say to you, and I know you're very much
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interested in silver and people didn't like it when
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I would say silver was second class to gold and
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all, but even itself now has got its act together
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and the metals themselves. I
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would sooner, as like you said, when we speak, see a
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correction and consolidation now, because I think if we
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truly want much higher prices, they'll be able to
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sustain themselves better with that. But
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like you, I agree as we record this, and I just
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did a personal update on my own channel that gold
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should have fell between $50 and $100 after this
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news this morning. It fell maybe $25. And
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as we started to speak, it was off a couple of
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dollars. You never want to say this
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time it's different because it never really is, but
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it's certainly acting in a better manner than we've
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seen. And finally, I feel also that
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the shares themselves are beginning to act in a
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better manner, certainly than we saw for the last
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two years. Yeah, good. I
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get this feeling, Peter, because it wasn't just this
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morning with the CPI numbers. We
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had great employment numbers, right? Bidenomics
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is doing its wonderful job. That
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was what Friday of last week. The
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dollar is strong, or relatively strong, measured
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by the DXY. We're seeing lower odds of rate
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cuts. It almost feels like to me
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that gold and silver now as well are possibly, for
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a lack of a better way to say this, calling BS on
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the Fed, like saying, hey, you know what, maybe
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there's the first crack in the confidence in the Fed.
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Because like you said, with these
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CPI numbers this morning, that should have raised the
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perception that the Fed will be hawkish for longer,
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and we should be down $50 or $100 on the gold price.
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First Mining Gold is a
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development company advancing two of the largest gold
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projects in Canada. Springpole
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in Ontario and DuParque, located in Quebec, each
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already has 5 million ounces of gold reserves,
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but exploration initiatives are underway at both
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projects to find even more gold. First
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Mining is well -financed, has zero debt, and owns an
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interest in four additional Canadian Gold Development
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projects. I think Ronnie, the story is
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that the things we spoke about, you, me, and some
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others, who had a very strong bullish flavor for
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the metals in the last couple years, many of the
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factors that we talked about that should bring
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prices up as they have, have actually occurred. And
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maybe we're not used to it being so right so long of
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a period, because normally we get somehow getting our
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heads handed to us for one reason or another. But
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I think those are the things that are important
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here. Let's address some of them that
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we, you, and I spoke about, and I know you
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speak about with others. First
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of all, the biggest story was that the metals trading
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has moved away from the paper hangers in London and
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New York, and into Asia where physical demand takes
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precedent and has been so, so strong. That
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I think is still the overriding reason, even
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today as we speak. The second, of course, is that
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there's clearly a move away from the dollar. More
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and more countries want to enter the BRIC Association.
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Being involved in the BRICs is
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anti -dollar, and that's just a tie that Wall
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Street is just missing completely to not understand
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what this means and how I believe that in a few
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years time, the BRICs will do to world trade similar
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to what the Industrial Revolution did. And
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that's being driven by gold because there's an
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underlining belief, and I think we're seeing enough
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strong hits to suggest that these countries are going
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to be more favorable to employing gold in some sort
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of new or alternative to the dollar. And
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finally, the last and perhaps most important thing
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is that outside the US, where there's still a lack
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of true interest in the metals, people are buying
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gold and to some extent silver as an investment,
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not just for protection, but to actually make
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capital appreciation. Listen, that's what I did, Ronnie.
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I did something that was very
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unusual, and I'm certain that 1 % others did in
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2021. I said by the end of that
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year, I thought gold would outperform stocks and even
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bonds and not to own general stocks or bonds,
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take gold over that as a choice. And
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guess what, Ron? It did. The
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bottom line it has. So I think a long, long
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answer to your original question is, is it this
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time different? If it's not different, it at
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least feels different. Yeah. You mentioned this idea
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that outside of the United States, when we look at
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the 1 .4 billion people that live in India, the 1
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.4 billion people that live in China, almost 3 billion
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people, almost 10 times the population of the United
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States. And that's just, I like to
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say, the I and the C, the IK and the BRICS. There's
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eight additional countries as well, all of which hold
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gold and silver in a much different regard than we do
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here in the United States. So
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we know there's robust demand in those countries.
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And if we look at what's going
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on here, I'm sure you hear the same thing, right? Like
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there's been ETF outflows, the retail, silver, and
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gold demand has picked up a little bit, but compared
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to, I heard Andy Scheckman say, compared to a year
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and a half, two years ago, demand is somewhat subdued
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right now. I guess my question is that
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in light of the fact that as we're recording this, we
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have silver trading somewhere around $28 per
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ounce and gold trading around $2 ,350 per ounce.
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What's going to happen if our
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fellow Americans and people in other Western countries
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do wake up and start to allocate even the smallest
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amount of their portfolios into silver, into gold, or
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forbid into precious metal mining stocks? Well,
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there's always been an argument, there have been
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studies over the years, just a one or 2 % shift
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out of paper assets, whatever they may be at
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the time, into the physical market, what dynamics can
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change. I think we're seeing that,
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again, outside the United States. The
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vast majority miss, and then the hindsight always
11:24
was, we had a false leader or we had a false premise.
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I think the false premise
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currently is Bitcoin. Now, that's going to create
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anybody that sees this that's in Bitcoin. It
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just, you might as well call their mother every
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name in the book, because that's how they feel that
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you have. You want me to call you, if
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you want me to call you a few dirty names, Peter, to
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get it out of the way? Dirty
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names would be the easiest part of what they do. Some
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actually send life -threatening emails that
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somehow you're this person that should be done away
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with because you're ruining life for people and the
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cult and all this other stuff that I get. But
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why I just bring that up is that it's not to say
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that somewhere's down the line, Bitcoin or
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cryptocurrencies will be part of something, but to
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be the end all and cure all first is something that
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worked for a couple thousand years. Nobody
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that's really doing a fiduciary responsibility,
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which I still think even though I don't manage money
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personally anymore, but our group, our planning group
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does, I think one of the first responsibilities is
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that you give respect to something in anything, in
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any shape, not just investing. If
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something worked for a couple thousand years, you
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have to start to argue real hard why it shouldn't
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continue to work now. And so the people here that
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have choice that said, oh, gold is a, you know how
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many times I heard it was a relic and pet rock and
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all this other stuff and the argument all is and
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all this hype and the hype is never ever. I've
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been at this 40 years, Ronnie. Nothing
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from an investment product has been hyped to the
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level that Bitcoin has in the last 12 to 24 months.
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And yet despite all of that,
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if you look at it in the broad range of the last
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couple of years, it's not gone anywhere fast. So
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my argument has been is once this halving comes,
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which is supposed to be due any day or week now,
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what else are they going to have to propel it
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further? And the thing that they said
13:24
you should be getting out of just keeps making new
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all time highs. So I think the next push for
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the metals to get that bear's blindfolded remove is
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going to come when the Bitcoin halving comes and
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goes. People recognize it didn't go a
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lot further. People start to take profits and
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they're going to apply it to where they've applied it
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for a couple thousand years, physical metals. If
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you're looking to buy gold, silver or platinum, do
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14:02
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you will too. And be sure to tell them that
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you're from Ron's basement. Yeah.
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And it's been somewhat absorbed by the mainstream
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financial industry, right? We
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have fidelity, black rock. And
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I know that for many years, that was one of the
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arguments with Bitcoin is, well, it exists outside of
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the mainstream financial system. And
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now it's been somewhat absorbed by it. And
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I'm not anti Bitcoin, but I think there's certain
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components that need to be looked at when we talk
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about crypto. One thing that I think is a
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benefit and something that we share between the
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precious metals and the crypto world is the base
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understanding that this fiat system, money printing, the
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fiscal monetary policies are doomed. I
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do think we share that common ground and who
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knows, right? A lot of the people that
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maybe own Bitcoin now could easily be, I don't want to
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say converted, but could become interested in silver
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and gold. Well, I'll just say this much
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because I know just spending this time, this
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will fall into some Bitcoin cult members and we'll hear
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about it through emails. I get texts. I
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even get phone calls to our offices telling me how
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crazy I am and all that kind of stuff. I'll
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just say that if you look at the original premise and
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study what the person who's supposed to be created it
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and the reasons for, Wall Street has done so much to
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damage those things, to bring it into a general
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criteria and to have exchange traded funds over
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it and all takes away from the very theory that just
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a couple years ago we were sold on why you should own
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it. So I'll just say this, it
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certainly has kept some people out of metals.
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There's no question the younger you
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go down the food chain, the more or less interest
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they are in the metals and particularly even go down
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even more into mining shares and all, but I just
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learned one thing. 80 % of money managers, according to
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Nobel Laureate studies, underperform an index fund.
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So Wall Street all pushing in
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one area now and like you said, not really talking
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about gold because Wall Street always treats gold
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as kryptonite, it just does. And
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the financial media tied to the hips does as well.
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There's going to come a point in
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time when people are going to say, listen, we might
16:44
have overshot our view on this thing and maybe it's
16:47
time we look at and that's going to be the group,
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believe it or not, because people always tell you, oh,
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you financial advisors tell us when to buy, you never
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tell us when to sell. Well,
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one of the times probably if it ever comes to the
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point where we need to truly start thinking of
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selling gold and silver is going to be when all those
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type of people have switched into it now,
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everywhere you walk and hear people are telling you
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to buy it. We're not even close to that,
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Ron, yet. But keep that in mind. And
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that's probably when that group is finally going to
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give in and come into something like this. And
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that's when we're going to be looking for the exit.
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But right now is when you
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speak, I would sue in the markets, don't do what you
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want them to do. But a consolidation now of this
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gain and going sideways would be much healthier for
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those that want to look for much higher gold and
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silver prices than continually just rising here
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without even some consolidation. Yeah.
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Yeah. Do you think if you were to
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kind of button it up and put a real general idea or
17:48
concept into or behind why people like you and I love
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silver and gold, a real simple explanation would be
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that the real value of the dollar is no matter how
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you slice it or dice it, no matter how you analyze
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the real value of the US dollar in the coming five
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years, 10 years, 15 years, that when you look at kind
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of the domestic situation in the United States,
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socially, fiscally, monetarily, when you look
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at the geopolitical situation in the world,
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like you said earlier, de -dollarization going on, that
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it's unfortunate because I know you're a proud
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patriotic American, I'm a proud patriotic American,
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but no matter how you try to, what angle you try to
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look at it through, it's almost an inevitability that
18:39
the real value of the dollar is going to go down
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and that that's why silver and gold are good options
18:44
right now. Well, it's certainly why I got
18:48
to the point where it began this year and in
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March wrote a very detailed commentary on why it's time
18:54
to build what I call a financial arc. That
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five main factors at that point in time, and there's
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more of them and I'll just name them if you want to
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discuss them, if not, that's fine. The
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first was something that we've heard for years, but
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it's finally become acute. We've
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passed the point in no return and that is the
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debt crisis is just out of hand. We're
19:12
now having multi -trillion -dollar yearly deficits. It
19:15
can't continue. The Congressional Budget Office
19:17
told us that we're going to be at $54 trillion in
19:21
hard debt, not counting Social Security, Medicare,
19:24
and Medicaid in less than 10 years. We're
19:27
getting to the point where financing just interest
19:30
payments are a challenge. That's
19:32
number one, it's getting worse. The
19:34
second was the retirement and aging crisis. I've
19:37
discussed it, it's only getting worse. The
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third, which is really becoming acute now, and I
19:43
even mentioned today and uttered these words for the
19:45
first time to my own listening group, Ron, and
19:48
that is the immigration crisis, invasion, whatever
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you want to call it, which is an economic invasion, is
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now going to probably lead to silver unrest. I
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think that's a real big problem that's just going
20:00
to really get bad by the time summer comes. The
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fourth is the BRICS. You and I just talked about
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it. The investment community has
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completely blown the understanding and not
20:12
understanding what is transpiring by what's
20:14
happening with the BRICS. And
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then the fifth, which is the one thing we would
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hope could fix any and all problems, is the worst of
20:20
it all, political paralysis. The
20:23
Democrats and Republicans cannot go in a room and
20:26
make real good legislation anymore. And
20:28
compounding that problem, there's fractions in each
20:31
party now that are moving away from the center of
20:34
the party. So the left, there's certain
20:36
that are going more left and there's more going
20:38
right. So I don't see how we don't
20:41
get things worse. And for a couple thousand
20:43
years, the safety of gold and silver was offered to
20:47
us and was a good thing to have during those
20:49
crisis. And it is here again. And
20:51
that's what I believe is the underlining push to
20:54
this all, why gold and silver has done what
20:56
they've done and will continue to do well.
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metals. Yeah. You know, Peter, you talked
21:38
about, it may have been item number one, kind of
21:42
the math behind why this doesn't work, right? The
21:44
national debt, the deficit, the growing deficit. And
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the deficits really, you know, has been the driver.
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That's where the debt came from
21:52
and the deficit continues to grow. I
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heard someone say something that I thought was very
21:57
interesting the other day about what's going on in
22:00
Washington with the Democrats and the
22:02
Republicans and why the deficit continues to grow.
22:05
And he said that the Democrats
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are just mostly concerned about being able to spend
22:11
more and more money, right, on different programs. They
22:14
just want to spend, spend, spend. And
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the Republicans are primarily concerned with
22:19
keeping taxes low. So as long as they continue
22:24
to balance that, like the, you know, as long as the
22:27
Republicans get the low taxes, they'll let the
22:31
Democrats overspend. And as long as the Democrats
22:33
get to overspend, they'll let the Republicans keep
22:36
the taxes low. And obviously, that's a recipe
22:39
for what we've seen already and will likely continue to
22:43
see because nobody's talking about this. I
22:45
don't hear any of the presidential, I hear talk
22:47
from Joe Biden about writing off everybody's
22:51
student debt. Nobody wants to address the real
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big elephant in the room. Well,
22:57
the federal government can get away with it a little
23:00
while longer. But even there, we're seeing
23:03
tax levels goes up and services go down. But
23:06
where the real issue is coming, and it's not being
23:08
discussed in the financial media, is on the state and
23:11
local levels. Look, maybe cities like Houston
23:14
are basically bankrupt. They don't have a printing
23:17
house. They have to balance the budgets
23:19
California, 10 billions of dollars of a budget crisis.
23:23
There's only two things governments
23:25
can do, Ronnie. They can cut spending or they
23:30
can raise taxes. It's much easier to raise the
23:34
taxes, reduce some of the government services. And
23:39
that's what we're seeing now. And
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here's the other part and why I think the immigration
23:43
problem is going to grow acute even more than people
23:46
are given it time to. There
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is a certain element in the United States that
23:51
barely gets by. It's been that way for decades,
23:54
if not a century or more. But
23:56
what little they got from the government is being
23:59
taken away from them and given to the immigration
24:02
scenario. Those people are not going to
24:05
take it lying down, Ronnie. They're
24:06
just not. No one should. I
24:08
can't expect them to. And I believe that budding
24:11
heads is coming to a head here that we're actually
24:13
going to see people against people. And
24:16
pointing just as they did in Germany in 30s and
24:18
point to a certain group and said, you know why
24:20
your problem is bad? See those people over there.
24:23
They're the reason for it. Such
24:24
is going to be the case now with fingers point to
24:26
immigrants by other people that have been here for a
24:29
while and been used to getting what little they
24:31
could and it's being taken away. So
24:33
this problem is only going to get worse. And
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I think it's that type of atmosphere that will give
24:39
the underlying support. Unfortunately,
24:42
two things like metals and people outside the United
24:46
States are not exactly immune from this either.
24:49
These crisis with immigration is
24:51
happening in Europe. It's happening in part of
24:53
Asia's. It's happening in Canada. If
24:56
you want to know somebody that's even more of a mess
24:58
than we are right now, it's our good friends to
25:00
the north. So I don't see this problem
25:02
getting better. It can only get worse. And
25:04
that in turn is one of the reasons fundamentally
25:08
why I suspect that gold and silver while corrections
25:11
and consolidations will come are only going to work
25:13
higher. And that bear is going to lose
25:16
his blind. And like you said, it has
25:19
worked for thousands and thousands of years. You
25:22
know, prove us, prove us wrong at this point, right?
25:26
Or prove the thesis or prove
25:27
silver and gold's ability to insulate and to provide
25:33
a safe harbor during these difficult times. Prove
25:36
it wrong. I would rather go with the
25:40
thousand years of history. Peter,
25:42
thank you for joining us today. On
25:44
behalf of the viewer, right, we've had this third
25:46
person with us that's benefited from hearing your
25:50
perspective on what's going on. If
25:52
people want to learn more about you, they can go to
25:55
Peter grandage .com. Is that correct? Yes,
25:58
the website is Peter grandage .com. There's
26:01
also a YouTube channel, but everything and anything I
26:04
do, whether it's done on the YouTube or the blog is
26:07
on my Twitter, I can't call it X. It's
26:09
always going to be called Twitter. But
26:10
there is the best place to follow whatever I'm thinking
26:14
or saying or doing. Okay, so they can follow you on
26:17
Twitter. You have a YouTube channel and
26:19
Peter grandage .com. What about, are you affiliated
26:23
with a financial planning firm? Anything
26:26
you want to say in that regard? Sure.
26:28
So separately, there is a planning group I've been
26:31
associated with for over 25 years. It's
26:34
only for U .S. residents. We believe that cash flows
26:39
the answer to financial success, not trying to
26:41
increase net worth. The more efficient you are with
26:45
your cash flow, the better off you're going to be
26:46
financially. And yes, that information could
26:49
be found on my blog at Peter grandage .com. Okay,
26:54
and I want to throw in, I guess I registered on your
26:57
blog or at some point had said that I wanted to get,
27:01
I get a daily email from you, which seems like every
27:05
day of the week. And it's always something very
27:08
interesting pertaining to what's going on in the
27:12
precious metals sector. So Peter, as usual, it's been
27:16
great to talk to you. And we'll look forward to
27:19
seeing you next time. And you tell that buddy over
27:22
there, it's only a matter of time.
27:24
$2 ,500 gold and watch out because Peter's coming for
27:28
you. I'll let him know. Thank
27:31
you, Ronnie. God bless.