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  Speaker 1: It's called Bolt perform It.
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  Speaker 2: Good evening, Welcome to the Bolt Report. I'm Steve Price,
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  Speaker 2: filling in for Andrew Bolt for the rest of this week.
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  Speaker 2: Now coming up tonight, powerful evidence delive it on day
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  Speaker 2: one of the Royal Commission into Anti Semitism the Royal
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  Speaker 2: Commission Prime Minister Albanez he did his best to avoid.
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  Speaker 2: We'll talk to Michael Kroger and Stephen Conroy about what
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  Speaker 2: we heard today. Some very powerful evidence still on politics
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  Speaker 2: to fall out from One Nation's effort in the Nepean
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  Speaker 2: by election on Melbourne's Morning Ten Peninsula, one in four
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  Speaker 2: primary votes going to the Hanson led One Nation party
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  Speaker 2: with Farrer. The next by election in New South Wales
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  Speaker 2: to come this weekend. And emotions continue to boil over
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  Speaker 2: in Alice Springs following the tragic death of that little
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  Speaker 2: five year old as police release extraordinary security vision of
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  Speaker 2: looters raiding a local supermarket on the night last week
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  Speaker 2: of that riot outside the hospital where the alleged killer
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  Speaker 2: was being treated. Plus Greg Sheridan, foreign editor of The Australian,
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  Speaker 2: on the latest from the Straits of Ormus, including attacks
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  Speaker 2: on ship movements. Also talked to Greg about the importance
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  Speaker 2: of the visit today of Japan's new Prime Minister to Canberra.
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  Speaker 2: But first, as I said on Friday night here on Sky,
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  Speaker 2: the alleged abduction and murder of five year old coomin
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  Speaker 2: Ji little Baby has once again shone a light on
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  Speaker 2: the living conditions of Indigenous Territorians living in town camps,
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  Speaker 2: in this instance Alice Springs. But these places exist on
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  Speaker 2: the fringes of many Northern Territory towns, including Darwin, the capital,
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  Speaker 2: You've got Catherine Tennant Creek, plus other more remote places.
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  Speaker 2: Australians have every right to ask themselves, given the billions
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  Speaker 2: of dollars spent on programs with fancy taglines like Bridging
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  Speaker 2: the Gap, the various reconciliation plans and Sorry Days, plus
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  Speaker 2: now in Victoria, a formal treaty creating a new level
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  Speaker 2: of bureaucracy to tip even more hundreds of millions of
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  Speaker 2: dollars into Aboriginal welfare. Where is the money actually going?
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  Speaker 2: How is it? How can we explain how is it
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  Speaker 2: that a five year old girl starting her life was
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  Speaker 2: forced to live in such squalor. I mean, it makes
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  Speaker 2: you tear up and shake your head, and then it
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  Speaker 2: just makes me at least very angry Indigenous Liberal senator
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  Speaker 2: and Alice Springs local to sin A Nampa jimper Price
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  Speaker 2: appeed on My Sky show last Friday calling for a
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  Speaker 2: Royal commission into indigenous funding and that not so simple
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  Speaker 2: but vital question where is the money going? Now? She
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  Speaker 2: got very emotional understandably as the senator explained her own
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  Speaker 2: experiences with those camps.
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  Speaker 3: A large number of my family living town camps. I spelled,
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  Speaker 3: a lot of my childhood connected to town camps. I've
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  Speaker 3: seen a lot of the violence firsthand. I've literally picked up,
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  Speaker 3: you know, the bodies of loved ones and put them
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  Speaker 3: into body bags in town camps. But you know, their
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  Speaker 3: existence does not justify unsafe conditions, and our children should
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  Speaker 3: not have to live in such unsafe conditions.
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  Speaker 2: Very rule and the Senator also again highlighted the levels
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  Speaker 2: of alcohol abuse, drug use, domestic violence and child abuse
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  Speaker 2: that simply not to be tolerated if it was happening
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  Speaker 2: at this scale in the outer suburbs of Sydney or
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  Speaker 2: Brisbane or Melbourne or anywhere else in Australia. Now Here
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  Speaker 2: is my colleague Peter Kredlin's description in the Sunday Herald
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  Speaker 2: Sun of the bed that that young victim was forced
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  Speaker 2: to sleep in, said quote. The bed that this little
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  Speaker 2: girl was allegedly inducted from was a grotty mattress on
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  Speaker 2: a filthy floor, in a room full of empty gym
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  Speaker 2: bean bottles. Now this is your Australia in twenty twenty six,
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  Speaker 2: and the armies of do gooders and socially so called
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  Speaker 2: progressive MPs and public servants, Well, they avert their eyes
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  Speaker 2: and they try and convince us there's nothing to see here.
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  Speaker 2: Well there is. They're bloody well is. It's a national
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  Speaker 2: scandal that we just keep signing checks to numerous groups
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  Speaker 2: claiming to represent Aboriginal Australians for a story as grim
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  Speaker 2: as this to unfold, and not just this time, but
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  Speaker 2: again and again and again all over the country. Nampa
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  Speaker 2: jimper Price is right to call for a royal commission.
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  Speaker 2: But you just watch and it happened over the weekend
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  Speaker 2: with the keyboard warriors on that sewer that is now
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  Speaker 2: called X, with brave people calling into question Nampa jimper
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  Speaker 2: Price's attempts to fix the situation. They are morons, And
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  Speaker 2: what do we think the Indigenous Affairs minister in the
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  Speaker 2: Bernesi government had to say, well, Malandari McCarthy said when
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  Speaker 2: she was asked on the ABC about Senator Prices call
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  Speaker 2: for an inquiry into town camps, that quote, now is
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  Speaker 2: not that time at all. I mean seriously, of course,
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  Speaker 2: it's time, the perfect time, when the eyes of non
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  Speaker 2: Aboriginal Australians are engaged in a debate about how could
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  Speaker 2: this happen in our country to that little girl. Thankfully
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  Speaker 2: there is an adult in this discussion. Sue Anne Hunter,
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  Speaker 2: the National Commissioner for Indigenous Children, writing in the Australian
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  Speaker 2: newspaper Today, said quote, I have watched governments come and go.
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  Speaker 2: I have watched recommendations land on shelves and gather dust.
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  Speaker 2: I have watched the same conversations be had year after
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  Speaker 2: year by people of goodwill while our children keep being lost.
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  Speaker 2: The time for rooms and talk is over. It's time
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  Speaker 2: for action. End of quote. Now, of course, Sue and
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  Speaker 2: herself an Indigenous woman, is right, but we have heard
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  Speaker 2: calls for action before and when the John Howard government
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  Speaker 2: introduced intervention in the Northern Territory as a policy, they
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  Speaker 2: were branded racists. I mean, sadly, this probably certainly won't
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  Speaker 2: be the last little child lost this way, but it
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  Speaker 2: is a national shame. We should not be turning away
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  Speaker 2: from more on that shortly. But to the Anti Semitism
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  Speaker 2: Royal Commission, we'll do that. We'll talk about that in
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  Speaker 2: just a moment. Joining me on the desk Andrew's Monday
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  Speaker 2: Night Panel, Michael Kroger from a Victorian Liberal Party president
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  Speaker 2: and his sparring partner, ex Labor minister, Senator Stephen Conroy.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome to you both. Great seat. Stephen, you've been a
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  Speaker 2: senior minister, you've sat in cabinet, you would have sat
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  Speaker 2: there while conversations we had about indigenous funding countless times.
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  Speaker 2: Is there no way we can solve this problem?
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  Speaker 4: This is tragically a thirty year systemic problem that for
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  Speaker 4: all the good will of a labor government, I mean
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  Speaker 4: Tony Abbott made this one of his signature policy drivers,
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  Speaker 4: and neither political party seemed to be able to address
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  Speaker 4: the fundamentals get the money to the right places and
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  Speaker 4: maybe why well, look, I wish I could explain it
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  Speaker 4: because with goodwill of both parties, you know, as no
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  Speaker 4: one's criticizing anyone about the funding here or the funding there,
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  Speaker 4: or the amount of money, it's just not getting to do.
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  Speaker 2: You remember what Labour's position was when mel Bruff was
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  Speaker 2: running that intervention. I can't.
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  Speaker 4: I think Labor opposed it at the time from recollection,
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  Speaker 4: but a lot of it was followed through rather than
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  Speaker 4: the what would have been described in as some draconian measures.
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  Speaker 4: The fundamental underpinnings of it to try and drive change,
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  Speaker 4: A lot of them were kept going. But again from
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  Speaker 4: Mail Bruff who took really hard medicine to them, to Labor,
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  Speaker 4: who took slightly softer to Tony. Abbaye said, I'm going
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  Speaker 4: to be the primary new champions as all of us
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  Speaker 4: have failed.
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  Speaker 2: Michael we I mean, we're all going to go through
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  Speaker 2: this process of trying to fix up the ndies. But this,
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  Speaker 2: as Stephens said, has been a fifty year problem where
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  Speaker 2: money just seems to disappear up to these town camps
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  Speaker 2: run by mel bras says, certain generational families, and we
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  Speaker 2: don't see any benefit from it.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I remember well back before the intervention. I
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  Speaker 1: remember Graham Richardson when he was a portent health minister
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  Speaker 1: by Paul Keating in nineteen ninety three. Richo famously went
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  Speaker 1: up to the Northern Territory and he came back and
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  Speaker 1: he said, you gave interview saying I'm going to spend
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to get a cabinet to spend a billion
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  Speaker 1: dollars to solve domestic violence and alcoholism in the Aboriginal communities.
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  Speaker 2: Now, that was thirty three years ago.
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  Speaker 1: I remember talking about it, talking to him about it
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  Speaker 1: at the time on a couple of occasions where he said, mate,
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  Speaker 1: this has got to be fixed. And I'm sure you
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  Speaker 1: and others at the Labor Party sincerely thoughts something's going
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  Speaker 1: to happen. What we know is this, Steve, what we've
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  Speaker 1: done has not worked.
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  Speaker 2: Correct.
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  Speaker 1: Why do we keep repeating you? You can't keep repeating
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  Speaker 1: the same mistakes. What just center Namujibar Brass said is
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  Speaker 1: one hundred percent correct. And by the way, apart from
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  Speaker 1: all the government money is where does all the money
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  Speaker 1: go from the mining royalties right, the shares, the share
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  Speaker 1: of GDS and royalty Probably not so much in Alice Springs,
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  Speaker 1: but but in Western Australia, in the Northern Territory, in
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  Speaker 1: northern parts of Queensland. Where does all this money go?
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  Speaker 2: Now?
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  Speaker 1: Price tried to get the Senate last year in the
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  Speaker 1: year before to have an inquiry. The Green said no, right,
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  Speaker 1: let's call a spade a spade.
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  Speaker 2: Here.
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  Speaker 1: The left wing of Australian politics, the Greens and the
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  Speaker 1: left amongst the Aboriginal activists, oppose any type of intervention,
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  Speaker 1: oppose any type of change.
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  Speaker 2: They're happy with the status quo except.
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  Speaker 1: They want voices. They want more parliamentary committees. They want
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  Speaker 1: more committees, right, that's what they want. When are some
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  Speaker 1: of these left wing leaders and Aboriginal leaders going to
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  Speaker 1: start saying the problem in our country is not that
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  Speaker 1: we don't have a voice in Canberra, we don't have
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  Speaker 1: none enough action in al Steven.
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  Speaker 2: People don't know peace and of them how to fix it.
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  Speaker 4: No, that's right, I don't. There wasn't anybody more as
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  Speaker 4: a leader of an indigenous community championing programs himself.
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  Speaker 2: Why are we not more embarrassed? Why are we not
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  Speaker 2: as as white Australians going, Well, hang on a minute,
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  Speaker 2: we've done a huge amount to try and fix this problem.
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  Speaker 2: But you've got a five year old girl allegedly murdered
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  Speaker 2: in her you know, snatched from her bed, allegedly and
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  Speaker 2: taken away by some bloke who just got out of
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  Speaker 2: jail six days before, and as Peter Credlin writes at
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  Speaker 2: the weekend, this poor little girls sleeping on a bed
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  Speaker 2: littered in a room littered with empty gym bean.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you know, I don't get too political here, but
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  Speaker 1: Sky and you're Matt Cunningham, right, who reports on Sky
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  Speaker 1: from the Northern Territory. Great job he does, absolutely fantastic, right,
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  Speaker 1: spell binding stuff. If he didn't produce that, and Sky
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  Speaker 1: didn't produce that, none of the mainstream media, right TV
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  Speaker 1: media cover the Northern Territory like Sky do. And secondly,
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  Speaker 1: the Australian newspaper, for fifty years, to its internal credits,
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  Speaker 1: erect have been running story after story about how we
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  Speaker 1: get rid of distant for Aboriginal dissident and right to
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  Speaker 1: their external credit, the Australia Newspaper, the left wing press
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  Speaker 1: in this country. We know who they are always want
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  Speaker 1: to concentrate on on on the you know, the theoretical,
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  Speaker 1: the voice of the committantry, the country, the flags. Yeah, correct,
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  Speaker 1: they want to know all of these symbolic things.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: Howard's view was forget this symbolism, deal with the practical
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  Speaker 1: problems on the ground, which is why John Howard introduced
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  Speaker 1: the intervention. Good on him, Ol Bruff, great to see
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  Speaker 1: him on before. We did a fantastic job Bruff and
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  Speaker 1: John Howard. We need practical work on the ground. This
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  Speaker 1: is an appalling, you know, light on our a stain
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  Speaker 1: on our country that we can't help our Aboriginal brothers
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  Speaker 1: and sisters more for some we.
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  Speaker 2: Should look powerful testimony today. I don't know how much
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  Speaker 2: you've seen of it. On day one of the public
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  Speaker 2: hearings for the Royal Commission into Anti Semitism. Have a
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  Speaker 2: look at Shana Gutnik, one of twelve up today. She
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  Speaker 2: of course lost her father in the Bondai massacre. He
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  Speaker 2: was the chap throwing bricks at the gunmen to try
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  Speaker 2: and stop him shooting. I have a little look at
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  Speaker 2: what she had to say.
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  Speaker 5: I constantly weigh up where I can pick up a
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  Speaker 5: click and collect order from based on the suburbs in
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  Speaker 5: due to real life attacks that have occurred. I know
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  Speaker 5: there are certain shopping centers that we need to avoid
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  Speaker 5: to protests that have taken place there in the past.
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  Speaker 5: Due to multiple events or incidences that have been I
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  Speaker 5: have received and seen hundreds of comments that I should
• 12:26
  Speaker 5: have been killed in the Bondai attack, calls to kill
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  Speaker 5: Israeli's comments celebrating violence against Jews, as well as claims
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  Speaker 5: that attacks against the Jewish community are false flags staged
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  Speaker 5: by Jews themselves for attention or sympathy.
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  Speaker 2: We're going to see so much more of that. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: non Jewish Australians like myself. I've got to say, before Bondi,
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  Speaker 2: after the the Hamas attacks, and up until Bondai, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: I was ignorant of the fact that Andy Semitism had
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  Speaker 2: suddenly taken Holden was so bad. I had no idea
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  Speaker 2: across it.
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  Speaker 1: In nineteen seventy five when I started at UNI and
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  Speaker 1: many of my generation and.
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  Speaker 2: Steve a lot of people, the Costello's.
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  Speaker 1: The Danby's, the Michael yabsley is, the Mary Eastan, you know.
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  Speaker 1: You know, all sorts of people who are at university
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  Speaker 1: in the seventies grew up watching this stuff and so
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  Speaker 1: it's been very much part of our life ever since Danby.
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  Speaker 1: It's the seventies onwards.
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  Speaker 2: This is no.
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  Speaker 1: Surprise to us that these Sikos are out there in
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  Speaker 1: this community and they've come. Their ugly head has been
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  Speaker 1: read since October seven. The challenge for the Western governments
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  Speaker 1: because we haven't seen its bad before in the Western world.
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  Speaker 1: They've got to keep legislating, they have to keep passing
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  Speaker 1: laws stopping this violent anti Semitism. And one of the
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  Speaker 1: problems I think we've got in this country and you'll
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  Speaker 1: see it in due course, is the High Court. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I'm worried about the you know, Chris Minn says, oh,
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  Speaker 1: I can't introduce I want to introduce legislation in New
• 13:53
  Speaker 1: South Wales outlawing the phrase globalizingt FADA because I'm waiting
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  Speaker 1: to see whether the Queensland laws get struck down.
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  Speaker 2: Even the Prime Minister was reluctant to have this inquiry,
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  Speaker 2: he eventually agreed that he would do it. Is it
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  Speaker 2: going to deliver what we hope it delivers?
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  Speaker 4: The first thing from the sort of compelling testimony we've
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  Speaker 4: just saying. And I know that you have many friends
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  Speaker 4: here in Melbourne in the Juristrae and Michael and myself,
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  Speaker 4: so we've from any of those discussions known that there's
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  Speaker 4: always been there, hidden away in dark corners over the
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  Speaker 4: thirty forty years we've all been involved in political discourse.
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  Speaker 4: But from the rolling intimidation that was taking place every weekend.
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  Speaker 4: It has now become just it's okay to intimidate, threaten.
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  Speaker 4: We've even had state actors like a Ran as we know,
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  Speaker 4: paying criminals in Dubai to organize attacks here in Australia. Absolutely,
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  Speaker 4: and so this has become a normalized part of our
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  Speaker 4: society which we should be ashamed of. Which would be
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  Speaker 4: absolutely ashamed that our friends that any Australian school kid
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  Speaker 4: is afraid to put their you know, school jacket on
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  Speaker 4: is ay of.
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  Speaker 2: A teacher doing Nazi salutes in the class.
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  Speaker 4: It is just foul and we should reflect, we should
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  Speaker 4: listen to this evidence. We should all be touched by
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  Speaker 4: this evidence, and we should have a common resolve to
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  Speaker 4: deal with it. And Chris Means has led the way.
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  Speaker 4: He's done a great job, but he's just he's just
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  Speaker 4: been knocked over in one case. And they'll all now
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  Speaker 4: be queuing up and it is a fiction for them
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  Speaker 4: to pretend that they don't know what they meant. It's
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  Speaker 4: like someone walking around with eighty eight tattooed on them.
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  Speaker 4: Everyone knows it's HH high hitler. Okay, So you can
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  Speaker 4: hide behind symbols that you can pretend, oh, they don't
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  Speaker 4: mean that at all. I mean, everyone knows what from
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  Speaker 4: the River of the Sea means. It's been part of
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  Speaker 4: Hamas's agenda from day one. So pretending that you don't
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  Speaker 4: mean genocide and the extinction of the Israeli state, it's
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  Speaker 4: just a fast They have to be called out from.
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  Speaker 2: It, Pan Michael, A rare win for your side, Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: rare win.
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  Speaker 1: Very good result, I mean was it?
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  Speaker 2: It was political wing against what Growth had.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you knew the vote to be down ten percent
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  Speaker 1: because that's gone to one nation. We know that. I
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  Speaker 1: thought the vote would be thirty three to thirty six
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  Speaker 1: the primary vote, because Growth had a personal vote of
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  Speaker 1: four or five percent. I thought thirty three to thirty
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  Speaker 1: six was the right result. To get thirty eight and
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  Speaker 1: a half is a very good result. The two people
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: that didn't do well on the night were, of course,
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: the Greens, whose vote was basically flat. Even though thirty
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: two percent labor vote got distributed, it didn't go to
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: it didn't go to Greens.
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  Speaker 2: I lived down there. It's not greenee central.
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  Speaker 1: Let me tell there's eight percent of those a golf course,
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  Speaker 1: many nine percent of freaks down there. But here's the
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  Speaker 1: other thing. The thirty two percent labor vote. Two percent
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  Speaker 1: of it went to US, but eight percent of it
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  Speaker 1: went to One Nation. As eight percent jumped over the
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  Speaker 1: Liberal Party straight to one Nation. That's where labor are
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  Speaker 1: the loser. They've got a worry working class.
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  Speaker 2: And as Michael says, because you know you take parts
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  Speaker 2: of and I know the place well Rosebud to the
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  Speaker 2: rural sound, very working class. Series is the oldest, second
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  Speaker 2: oldest electorate in the country. And if they didn't have
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  Speaker 2: a labor candidate to vote for, they chose one Nation.
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  Speaker 2: Is that a worry for absolutely you in you know,
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  Speaker 2: the rest of the country. What about out of suburban Melbourne.
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  Speaker 4: So firstly, you know the Liberal Party did we congratulated
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  Speaker 4: for actually making a sensible decision and putting Jess Wilson
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  Speaker 4: in the chair. Okay, she did very very well. So
• 17:36
  Speaker 4: the Liberals big tech the results. Let's just stick to
• 17:43
  Speaker 4: the topic bargle. So the result two people went so
• 17:49
  Speaker 4: far not all of those accounted. That's a great result
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  Speaker 4: for them. Labor. There's some big messages there. Those seats
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  Speaker 4: we're talking about, like hastings you know around Melton, absolutely
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  Speaker 4: causes causes. Looked at those results in Rosebud, where there
• 18:06
  Speaker 4: was a win for one nation and said put that
• 18:09
  Speaker 4: demographic look everywhere else that demographic is labors can be
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  Speaker 4: because that's going to be your challenge.
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  Speaker 2: In one word, who wins in ferrer one nation? A favorite?
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  Speaker 2: Stupid look?
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  Speaker 4: I think the Liberals Nationals will finish third and fourth
• 18:24
  Speaker 4: and their preferences will push one nation across the line.
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: Great to see you both, Thank you very much. Coming
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: up after the break still to come, Greg Sheridan, he'll
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: be here with us to take a look at Donald
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: Trump's latest plan to reopen the Straight of Willors, plus
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: the importance of the visit of Japan's new prime minister.
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: She was in Cambride today. Welcome back to priss in
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: for Andrew Bolt this week. Now, President Donald Trump, he's
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: unveiled yet another plan to reopen the Straits of Hulls
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: after weeks of those stalled peace negotiations. US Navy's going
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: to start guiding ships, he says through the straight of him.
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: Was this is going to happen tomorrow, Tuesday, our time,
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: in what Donald Trump's calling Project Freedom. Iran's quickly responded
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: by labeling the plan violation of the ceasefire and more worryingly,
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: saying it would attack US forces if they enter the Strait.
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: But in a post on True Social the President wrote, quote,
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: if in any way this humanitarian process is interfered with,
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: that interference will unfortunately have to be dealt with forcefully,
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: joining me to go through what's going to happen there tomorrow, Australians,
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: for I needed to Greg Sheridan. Greg, everybody I've mentioned
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: tonight that Iran has threatened to attack American military if
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: Trump does guide ships through the Strait have said to me, well,
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: what with They're supposed to have no air force, no army,
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: no navy, and no missiles. Well, clearly they've got something.
• 19:54
  Speaker 6: Yeah, Steve, I think they plainly got the capacity to attack. Okay,
• 19:58
  Speaker 6: I mean it's widely reported that the well over one
• 20:00
  Speaker 6: thousand missiles left, they seem to have many more than
• 20:05
  Speaker 6: that number of drones. And to attack a ship, you
• 20:08
  Speaker 6: don't need big navy ships.
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: But they've got these.
• 20:11
  Speaker 6: Little, very large number of these little speedboats, these little
• 20:15
  Speaker 6: dinghies that they bring out minds on and so forth. Now,
• 20:20
  Speaker 6: I think probably an American warship would be able to
• 20:25
  Speaker 6: defend against whatever the Iranians do, although that's not a
• 20:29
  Speaker 6: lay down Mezaire, But a cargo ship I don't know.
• 20:34
  Speaker 6: So I'll be interested to see which cargo ships asked
• 20:37
  Speaker 6: to be escorted by the Americans and if the Americans
• 20:41
  Speaker 6: actually do it. Presumably, if the Iranians succeed in attacking
• 20:45
  Speaker 6: either a cargo ship or an American naval vessel, that
• 20:49
  Speaker 6: means the bombing starts again and we're back in. But
• 20:54
  Speaker 6: both Trump and the Iranians tend to bluff a good deal,
• 20:58
  Speaker 6: so we're going to be on hooks to see what happens.
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: I think sto Well, those small boats would basically be
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: suicide missions, wouldn't they. Yeah, yeah, they are.
• 21:10
  Speaker 6: They haven't been in the past, because a small boat
• 21:14
  Speaker 6: can attack a civilian ship very effectively. I mean, two
• 21:18
  Speaker 6: or three small boats with two dozen trained Iranian soldiers
• 21:23
  Speaker 6: will overpower any any domestic cargo ship which doesn't have
• 21:28
  Speaker 6: fighting men on it, and you know, would be very
• 21:30
  Speaker 6: ill advised to fight back. So that's those kind of
• 21:33
  Speaker 6: irregulars that they can overcome civilian ships. It would be
• 21:38
  Speaker 6: a suicide mission to attack an American naval ship with that,
• 21:43
  Speaker 6: but it can be very effective. I mean, what we're
• 21:47
  Speaker 6: seeing in the age of drones and this applies to
• 21:50
  Speaker 6: these little boats as well, is that great, big platforms
• 21:53
  Speaker 6: can be swarmed by small platforms. Now, those little ships,
• 21:59
  Speaker 6: those tiny little boats wouldn't carry guns that could trouble
• 22:02
  Speaker 6: an American ship, but they might carry limpid minds that
• 22:05
  Speaker 6: you're just attached to the side of the American ship
• 22:08
  Speaker 6: and then it goes bang and blows a hole in it.
• 22:11
  Speaker 6: And if they're swarming at you, if twenty of them
• 22:13
  Speaker 6: are swarming at once, you might shoot twelve of them
• 22:16
  Speaker 6: out of the water. But if a few of them
• 22:18
  Speaker 6: get through, you can be in big trouble. Now, I'm
• 22:21
  Speaker 6: sure the Americans are much smarter than me, and they've
• 22:23
  Speaker 6: thought this all through and they know what they're doing.
• 22:26
  Speaker 6: But this is an extremely uncertain moment.
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: Penny Wong, the Foreign Minister, was out today. She appeared
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: on Sky with I think Kieran Gilbert today. He had
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: a chat with her. She was asked by Kieran about
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: what's Australian's involvement now in operations in the Straits. This
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: is what she had to say.
• 22:48
  Speaker 7: We want the straight opened. The best way for that
• 22:50
  Speaker 7: to happen is for Ryan to come to a negotiated
• 22:53
  Speaker 7: outcome with the United States that allows the strait to
• 22:56
  Speaker 7: be opened. That's what we want. We've been age in
• 23:00
  Speaker 7: the United States as well as the United Kingdom, France
• 23:02
  Speaker 7: and others about arrangements for the strait. It's in all
• 23:06
  Speaker 7: of our interests for the Strait of Hormones to open it.
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: Classic non answer, I would have thought Greek.
• 23:13
  Speaker 6: Well, I don't really see that there's much that Australia
• 23:15
  Speaker 6: can do. I mean, the United States has talked about
• 23:18
  Speaker 6: a range of support, including diplomatic support. I'm sure we'll
• 23:21
  Speaker 6: give diplomatic support. We have an AWAC reconnaissance and command
• 23:26
  Speaker 6: aircraft in the United Arab Emirates. That's a useful thing
• 23:29
  Speaker 6: to do. Our dismal little ANZAC frigates could not possibly
• 23:35
  Speaker 6: protect themselves in the Strait of Hormers. We've got three
• 23:38
  Speaker 6: air warfare destroyers, only two are serviceable at the moment.
• 23:41
  Speaker 6: I suppose one of those could be part of an
• 23:44
  Speaker 6: American screen. But you know, the last time the strait
• 23:48
  Speaker 6: was seriously closed in the late nineteen eighties. That was
• 23:52
  Speaker 6: before drones and allied shipping took a lot of a
• 23:57
  Speaker 6: lot of hits. Was very hard to escort ships through safely.
• 24:02
  Speaker 6: Even then, the experience of the Hooties in Yemen is
• 24:06
  Speaker 6: that even the most powerful navy in the world, the
• 24:09
  Speaker 6: American Navy, couldn't really secure those waters for civilian shipping
• 24:14
  Speaker 6: by military force against the Hooties. And the Hooties have
• 24:17
  Speaker 6: less wherewith all, you would think, than the Iranian government.
• 24:21
  Speaker 6: So I don't know how this operation will succeed unless
• 24:28
  Speaker 6: Iran and the US come to an agreement beforehand, or
• 24:32
  Speaker 6: Trump manages to bluff the Iranians out of taking action,
• 24:36
  Speaker 6: or maybe Trump is going to use this as an
• 24:37
  Speaker 6: excuse to go back and take massive action again, although
• 24:41
  Speaker 6: everything indicates that he's very reluctant to do that, and
• 24:44
  Speaker 6: he's now got the worst, a new big drop in
• 24:46
  Speaker 6: his approval ratings. So it's honestly, Steve on the basis
• 24:51
  Speaker 6: of what everyone's saying. It can't all happen, so we're
• 24:56
  Speaker 6: going to be I mean, I'm terribly confused about it,
• 24:59
  Speaker 6: and I hope that I'll know much more about it
• 25:01
  Speaker 6: in a day or two.
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: Well, if you'll confused, the rest of us will certainly
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: be confused. I want to get to the visit by
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: the Japanese PM to Australia in a moment, I just
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: want to ask you about get your reaction to this.
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: Pennyone was also asked about her visit to China. She
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: was obviously up there asking for China to guarantee supplies
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: of it, I think, particularly aviation fuel, and Kieren asked
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: her about what she spoke about when she was there.
• 25:28
  Speaker 7: Our relationship remains, as I have said many times, to
• 25:32
  Speaker 7: cooperate where we can disagree where we must engage in
• 25:35
  Speaker 7: the national interests. You give us step fuel, you give
• 25:38
  Speaker 7: us diesel, it comes back to you as all of
• 25:40
  Speaker 7: these things, iron or coal and other commodities.
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: Got to play both sides of the fence, don't we.
• 25:49
  Speaker 6: Yeah, well, I guess that's kind of fair enough. I mean,
• 25:51
  Speaker 6: the government's ludicrous energy policies following ten years of Coalition
• 25:56
  Speaker 6: ludicrous energy policies has left us as the only nation
• 25:59
  Speaker 6: in the world which commands a whole continent rich with
• 26:03
  Speaker 6: fossil fuels of all kinds, energy, abundant uranium, oil, gas, coal, everything.
• 26:08
  Speaker 6: And we're going around the region begging for fossil fuels
• 26:12
  Speaker 6: because you know, the government has this view that none
• 26:15
  Speaker 6: of them is relevant. Yet you can't possibly run the
• 26:17
  Speaker 6: economy without them, So we're taking our begging bowl around
• 26:21
  Speaker 6: Asia and including to China.
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: The Japanese Prime Minister we've seen shots of her in
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: cambrid today. Attacker Ichi very much a political opposite to
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: what Anthony Albanezi is. Her first official visit since taking office.
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: She met with the PM today. They talked about apparently
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: about security, energy and countering China's influence. Speaking of China again,
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: what does this visit actually mean for the relationship between
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: US and Japan? Because I get a sense in you,
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: and I've spoken about this before, that we're getting closer
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: and closer in our relationship with Japan, and they're now
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: building naval ships for US, and the two countries appear
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: to be on very good terms with each other.
• 27:06
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I think that's true, the sheer logic of the
• 27:09
  Speaker 6: circumstances of driving us together. But this is much less
• 27:13
  Speaker 6: than it should be. The Albanezi government here is really
• 27:15
  Speaker 6: a lame duck. It's just a lame lame duck.
• 27:19
  Speaker 5: Here.
• 27:19
  Speaker 6: You've got the most important political leader in Asia outside
• 27:24
  Speaker 6: of Xijinping, the most popular political leader in Asia, the
• 27:27
  Speaker 6: leader of the third biggest economy in the world, the
• 27:31
  Speaker 6: leader of America's most important ally in Asia, a huge
• 27:35
  Speaker 6: source of investment in Australia and the United States our
• 27:38
  Speaker 6: most important partner in Asia. Now, why aren't their brass
• 27:43
  Speaker 6: bands and state banquets and dinners and addresses to parliament
• 27:48
  Speaker 6: and everything else. The Japanese political system means it's quite
• 27:52
  Speaker 6: rare to get a prime ministerial visit. Now.
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: You would think if she was the.
• 27:55
  Speaker 6: First female leader of you know, sort of gaz stand
• 28:00
  Speaker 6: in Europe or something, she'd be faded as a great
• 28:03
  Speaker 6: feminist hero. But apparently the Albanzi government is bry luke
• 28:07
  Speaker 6: warm about feminist heroes who happen to be conservatives. She's
• 28:11
  Speaker 6: very unpopular with China, who have taken out rageous actions
• 28:15
  Speaker 6: to try to intimidate her. A Chinese diplomat in Japan
• 28:19
  Speaker 6: said she should have her head cut off because she
• 28:22
  Speaker 6: said Chinese military action against Taiwan would be dangerous for Japan. Now,
• 28:28
  Speaker 6: the Albanesi government ought to be embracing this stalwart ally
• 28:32
  Speaker 6: who shares our values, shares our interest and has given
• 28:37
  Speaker 6: fantastic leadership and just won a huge majority in Japan's parliament.
• 28:42
  Speaker 6: So she's going to be loud and big and powerful
• 28:45
  Speaker 6: for years and years to come. Instead of which it's
• 28:49
  Speaker 6: being treated like the visit of a second division mayor
• 28:52
  Speaker 6: from you from some Midwestern American town or something. Mark Karney,
• 28:58
  Speaker 6: the Canadian Prime Minister, who has absolutely no consequence for
• 29:02
  Speaker 6: Australia at all, gets faded likek He's Winston Churchill and Takahichi,
• 29:10
  Speaker 6: and the most important leader in our region is kind
• 29:13
  Speaker 6: of barely acknowledged in a very very lame effort by
• 29:17
  Speaker 6: the Albaneza government.
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: In my view, Well, I presume you've written that in
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: the Australian for tomorrow. I hadn't thought of that, but
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: that you're absolutely one hundred percent correct. I mean, why
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: is she not invited to address both houses of Parliament?
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: I mean, given the connection between Australia and Japan or
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: is a pleasure Greg? Catch up with you soon. Thank
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: you very much for Greg Sheridan there for the Australian.
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: Shocking Vision still to come. This is out of Alice
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: Springs of an alleged looting of a service station which
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: apparently caused two hundred thousand dollars worth of material to
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: be stolen plus damage. And there's a new book out
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: called Can You Believe It? Kill Your Boomer is released
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: as labor prepares to wage what is being called an
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: intergenerational war on all of that. More up next welcome
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: back to Price with you shry markson coming up at
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: the top of the hour. I mentioned at the beginning
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: of the program the unfolding story in Alice Springs. Now
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: we know, of course, the tragedy of the death of
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: that little five year old girl. But around that night
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: there were these riots, of course, and police have now
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: revealed that they've done made more than a dozen arrests
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: over the alleged looting of a businesses in Alice Springs.
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: Looting on that night in and amongst these riots, this
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: all happened at a service station. They released this shocking
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: CCTV footage which we've got here. Have a look at
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: what happens in this petrol station. Now, about two hundred
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: thousand dollars worth of either products or damage was done
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: in a little over half an hour. Even less I
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: would have thought, I mean, that is just extraordinary. That's
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: twenty twenty six in your Australia. And that's why while
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: this riot was going on, the Northern Territory Police Commissioner
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: has spoken about this. Martin Dole. He said there would
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: be no leniency shown toward those involved. But I love
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: how strong his comments were here.
• 31:13
  Speaker 8: He is, what you will see in this footage is
• 31:17
  Speaker 8: not people processing grief in relation to the death of
• 31:22
  Speaker 8: baby Cumenjoy. What you will see is not people trying
• 31:26
  Speaker 8: to practice traditional law. Come and hand yourself in before
• 31:30
  Speaker 8: we come for you.
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: Great words, and he's said a couple of times during
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: this whole saga that the police are coming for you.
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: I mean, he's got the worst job in the world.
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: Let's bring in skye News dot COM's afternoon editor James
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: Bolt and Skyne New's host Aniko de Georgio. James, I
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: saw those pictures first. I think at the weekend, I
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: just couldn't believe what I was witnessing. I mean, we've
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: got police hunting for a five year old girl who's missing,
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: and then her body is discovered, and then the alleged
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: attacker is arrested and they have a riot. But in
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: the meantime they decide they'd go to a local petrol
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: station and steal everything they can.
• 32:12
  Speaker 9: Yeah, it's heartbreaking. I think what you saw there is
• 32:16
  Speaker 9: what happens when large crowds gather for you know, what
• 32:19
  Speaker 9: starts off to be a potentially, you know, in in
• 32:23
  Speaker 9: some cases of heartwarming reasons, certainly was in our Springs,
• 32:26
  Speaker 9: but you get some people who latch onto them and
• 32:29
  Speaker 9: they decided it's all just a bit of fun for themselves.
• 32:31
  Speaker 9: And you just hope that these people are brought to
• 32:34
  Speaker 9: justice because what they did on that terrible night was
• 32:38
  Speaker 9: distract a country from a really, really tough event.
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: Danika, I mean, are things I mean, I can't answer
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: this question, and I don't particularly expect you to, but
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: are people in those camps and that one in particular
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: where those people are from, that desperate that they have
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: to go and steal food?
• 32:57
  Speaker 10: Well, I mean, you'd hope not.
• 32:58
  Speaker 11: But we are dealing with it absolute unpreced engined crisis,
• 33:01
  Speaker 11: aren't we, Steve. But you know what, one crisis that
• 33:03
  Speaker 11: we shouldn't be surprised about because these are not new
• 33:06
  Speaker 11: issues that we're dealing with here. That looting, that vision
• 33:11
  Speaker 11: should haunt all of us. It is absolutely disgraceful what
• 33:15
  Speaker 11: is going on. And I've got to say I feel
• 33:17
  Speaker 11: four business owners up in Alice Springs because that is
• 33:20
  Speaker 11: what they are dealing with day in, day out. But again,
• 33:22
  Speaker 11: we know this, there have been so many riots in
• 33:25
  Speaker 11: the past. Remember there was that curfew that was put
• 33:27
  Speaker 11: on it. And what the Northern Territory government comes out
• 33:30
  Speaker 11: the other day and says, oh, we're going to put
• 33:32
  Speaker 11: ban on takeaway alcohol. That is not going to do anything.
• 33:37
  Speaker 11: Is that When you've got issues like that going on,
• 33:39
  Speaker 11: it is a whole of approach problem. And businesses have
• 33:43
  Speaker 11: had enough. No wonder that they're closing down, no wonder
• 33:45
  Speaker 11: that they're fearing for their lives.
• 33:47
  Speaker 10: Two hundred thousand.
• 33:48
  Speaker 11: Dollars worth of stolen good goods plus damage on the.
• 33:52
  Speaker 10: Top of that.
• 33:53
  Speaker 11: It's mind boggling that this is just happening a stones.
• 33:57
  Speaker 10: Throw away from the cities in which we all live
• 33:59
  Speaker 10: in Steve.
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: And James, I mean, as Janika rightly points out, this
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: has been going on forever. But you can go back
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: on the timeline two years ago when you had young
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: Aboriginal teenage boys scissor kicking the front door of a
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: pub to get it to get inside and steal groll.
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: Then the Prime Minister I think twelve months later, flew
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: in for a whistle stop tour, visited a health facility
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: that his government was putting money into, and flew out
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: again and went to the tennis. I mean, I don't
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: think anyone in Canberra. And I had Michael Kroger in here,
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: and I had Stephen Conroy here talking about it, no
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: one in Canberra seems to have a clue on how
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: to fix this problem.
• 34:39
  Speaker 9: No, And I think what happens is you got a
• 34:41
  Speaker 9: lot of people in Canberra who think to themselves, if
• 34:44
  Speaker 9: I latched myself onto the political cause, dejure when it
• 34:47
  Speaker 9: comes to Indigenous issues, I can kind of get myself
• 34:50
  Speaker 9: credit when it comes to the difficult conversation. So Albin Easy,
• 34:53
  Speaker 9: you know, he championed the Voice. He was very passionate
• 34:56
  Speaker 9: about that. He spoke a lot about that. But as
• 34:58
  Speaker 9: you say, when Alice Springs is becoming quite crime rate
• 35:01
  Speaker 9: and people need help and people need to be gutting
• 35:06
  Speaker 9: out of what is looking like increasingly like hell, he
• 35:09
  Speaker 9: can go for a quick meeting and then go to
• 35:11
  Speaker 9: the tennis. But because he's been campaigning on the Voice,
• 35:14
  Speaker 9: no one could possibly accuse him. I've not taken this
• 35:17
  Speaker 9: issue of indigenous matter seriously.
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: Let's turn out attention to the budget. The boomers are
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: in the frame again. I can't believe I am a boomer.
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: Everyone should know that I think they probably do. And
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: now there's a few of us boomers who are still
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: working in not living in rich retirement. Now Labour's going
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: to wage war on all of us. That would be
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: me as I said, intergenerational fairness. I addressed a sporting
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: lunch on the weekend where about one hundred people are
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: in the room, and I said, can anyone here want
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: to put their hand up if they are supportive of
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: fixing into generational fairness? And no one did. I mean,
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: it's a stupid concept. But there's an author out there
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: called Fiona Wright, that's her name, released a timely book
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: on this very subject called Kill Your Boomers. And according
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: to Peter Craven's review of this fictional novel in The Australian,
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: the plot line is basically, if younger people won't have
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: the money to buy their own home until their parents die,
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: isn't there an obvious avenue to be explored? Now, Danika,
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: can you imagine the outrage if I wrote a fictional
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: book saying millennials and Gen zs are lazy winges locked
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: onto their phones all day and we should skip them
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: and go straight to jen Alpha. I guess I wouldn't
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: be fiction, then would it be real?
• 36:36
  Speaker 10: And that's exactly right.
• 36:38
  Speaker 11: I just wonder, like, has the Treasurer read this, Steve,
• 36:41
  Speaker 11: Is this where the Treasurer takes his talking.
• 36:43
  Speaker 10: Points from kill your boomers?
• 36:45
  Speaker 11: That's exactly because that seems to be what he's doing
• 36:48
  Speaker 11: right when he talks about intergenerational wealth. What an absolute
• 36:52
  Speaker 11: load of hogwash this is. It's like robbing Peter to
• 36:57
  Speaker 11: pay Paul, except young people actually don't benefit from it
• 37:01
  Speaker 11: at all. So we've got retirees being targeted, people who've
• 37:04
  Speaker 11: worked all of their lives, paid their taxes, done all
• 37:08
  Speaker 11: of the right thing, just so that Jim Chalmers can
• 37:10
  Speaker 11: save his own backside from the fact that he has
• 37:13
  Speaker 11: spent us into oblivion. And then on the other hand,
• 37:16
  Speaker 11: where Jim Chalmer said, you know, no, it's about the
• 37:18
  Speaker 11: young people, well, I can tell you this my generation
• 37:21
  Speaker 11: and I'm sure the same with yours, James. We are
• 37:23
  Speaker 11: all talking about how we're going to be able to
• 37:25
  Speaker 11: afford our own home, how we are going to be
• 37:28
  Speaker 11: able to get into that big Aussie dream. And by
• 37:31
  Speaker 11: saying by these sneaky tax grabs under the guise of
• 37:35
  Speaker 11: intergenerational wealth, no one, no boomer, no gen y like
• 37:39
  Speaker 11: myself are going to be better off. It is absolutely
• 37:42
  Speaker 11: a a it's all false, it's all phony.
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: And James, once you make these changes to capital gains tax,
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: where the discount that you can claim on on selling
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: a property comes in, is what Jim Chalmer's talking about.
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: Who's going to sell their property? I mean, all us
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: boomers will live in our four bedroom, you know, run
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: down homes for the rest of our lives, so we
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: don't have to pay that sort of capital gain stack.
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: So then you've got, of course, the investment properties. I mean,
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: what's that going to do to rents if you can't
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: have more than you know? I think it's two they're
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: talking about negatively geared properties. Who's going to go and
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: by an investment property? Why would you, Steve?
• 38:23
  Speaker 9: I think you're making the mistake of doing what politicians
• 38:26
  Speaker 9: never do, and that's thinking a few years ahead. You've
• 38:29
  Speaker 9: got to remember this is about the day in politics,
• 38:30
  Speaker 9: it's about the week in politics. It's about setting themselves
• 38:33
  Speaker 9: up for the next election. So of course labor are
• 38:35
  Speaker 9: going to say that it's all the matter off. The
• 38:37
  Speaker 9: boomers have too much. The younger generations, my millennials, like
• 38:41
  Speaker 9: we have had the world set up against us. The
• 38:43
  Speaker 9: problem is is that the messaging, you know, millennials will
• 38:49
  Speaker 9: become boomers, like all the changes that are coming in
• 38:51
  Speaker 9: are going to negatively affect the millennials one day, but
• 38:54
  Speaker 9: labor won't be in power. Then Jim Chalmers won't be Treasurer.
• 38:57
  Speaker 9: Then alb and Easy won't be Prime Minister. Then they're
• 38:59
  Speaker 9: not going to be on the till for when this
• 39:01
  Speaker 9: actually all comes to worst.
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: Janie Grime old enough to remember when Paul Keating tried
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: to do this. Guy's been showing vision of keeping in
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: Parliament during the day when he tried to knock off
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: negatively gear negative gearing. It lasted twelve months and he
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: had to completely unwind the policy because of the impact
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: had had on the housing industry. Everyone in the housing
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: industry is telling the government don't do this. They're just
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: going to ignore it. The reason they're broken. They need the.
• 39:27
  Speaker 10: Money exactly exactly.
• 39:29
  Speaker 11: I mean, we have got Jim Chalmers who has presided
• 39:32
  Speaker 11: over record government spending.
• 39:35
  Speaker 10: We are in debt. We're about to reach one trillion
• 39:38
  Speaker 10: dollars in debt.
• 39:39
  Speaker 11: So it's all well and good for changes to capital
• 39:42
  Speaker 11: gains tax, but you know you're right you mentioned investment properties. Well,
• 39:46
  Speaker 11: it actually makes it even more unattractive for investment properties.
• 39:50
  Speaker 11: It's not going to build not one single home in Australia.
• 39:54
  Speaker 11: And then as for rentals, well, of course they're going
• 39:56
  Speaker 11: to go in the absolute other direction, Steve. We're already
• 39:58
  Speaker 11: paying ridiculous price for reends out there. It's going to
• 40:01
  Speaker 11: have no impact. But again this is all just a
• 40:04
  Speaker 11: very sneaky and tricky way by the Treasurer to make
• 40:07
  Speaker 11: it all look really good so that he can save himself.
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: Well, James, I mean if Budget Night, which is a
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: week to go from now, he comes out and makes
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: these changes, I mean the impact of that I think
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: is going to be really serious. And do they really
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: think two years out from when they want to be
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: re elected? And I should ask you about Anthony albanezis
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: saying he wants another term, so he thinks he's going
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: to go around for a third time. But they really
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: think that they're going to convince people that they're helping
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: young people get a house. Do you, James, feel it
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: you're more likely to get a house in your lifetime
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: because of what Jim Chalmers is going to do next Tuesday.
• 40:49
  Speaker 9: Well, no, because the issue always comes down to there
• 40:52
  Speaker 9: is a lack of supplier. So when the government says okay,
• 40:54
  Speaker 9: this is a fault of the boom is, they get
• 40:56
  Speaker 9: to escapegoat people when the fact is the government has
• 40:58
  Speaker 9: made it far too high to homes in Australia and
• 41:01
  Speaker 9: they're not meeting their housing targets. And you say like,
• 41:03
  Speaker 9: well two years from now things might be different. Two
• 41:06
  Speaker 9: years from now people are still going to be looking
• 41:07
  Speaker 9: for homes, They're not going to be able to afford them.
• 41:10
  Speaker 9: It's still going to be the fault of the Burymas
• 41:12
  Speaker 9: the government gets away with it.
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: Absolutely good on you both, Thank you, love to talk
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: to you, James Bolt and Danika de Giorgio. They're coming
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: up straight after the break. We'll have all the latest
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: from the UK with Samara Gill Andrews regular including a
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: proposal from Nigel Ferras, who looks set to topple both
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: Labor and the Tories in the UK to build migrant
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: detention centers in Green's party council areas. Wouldn't that be delicious?
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: Welcome back. I should remind you all that tomorrow there'll
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: be a Victorian State budget. That's a budget in a
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: state where it's costing twenty eight million dollars a day
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: to pay off the interest on the debt alone. You
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: imagine doing that budget. We'll have full details on that
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: for you on Sky tomorrow and I'll see we'll look
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: at it tomorrow night. While I'm filling in for Andrew,
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: the UK Prime Minister Kis Starmery's off on another junket
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: across to somewhere in Europe. I think, seems to keep
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: walking into fiery controversy.
• 42:11
  Speaker 6: Now.
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: The latest news out of the UK is that he's
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: issued an extraordinary warning over political in fighting and urging
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: his own Labour Party rivals not to ost him. Don't
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: sack me, keep me in the job. He's called for
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: unity and his party has set for what is expected
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: to be disastrous local council elections across England, Scotland and Wales.
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: They will take place, I think this week. One critic
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: I heard today used the term the weekend elections could
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: be starmageddon joining me now, it's a great line. It's
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: doing him now from London, legendary talk TV host Samara Gill.
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: That's a good line, Samaria. You can steal that if
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: you like.
• 42:48
  Speaker 12: I think I will steal. I mean, it's going to
• 42:51
  Speaker 12: be an absolute.
• 42:52
  Speaker 10: Blood bar Steve for the PM.
• 42:54
  Speaker 12: I would go even further to say that this will
• 42:57
  Speaker 12: probably be a massive reckoning for him and his leadership.
• 43:01
  Speaker 12: It's really interesting because I've been to Number ten a
• 43:04
  Speaker 12: number of times and seen him speak, and he's quite
• 43:07
  Speaker 12: dictatorial in the way that he grabs onto his power.
• 43:10
  Speaker 12: He's quite tyrannical. I mean you can see even last
• 43:13
  Speaker 12: week there was set to be a vote for him
• 43:16
  Speaker 12: to go in front of the Ethics Committee over his
• 43:18
  Speaker 12: appointment of Mandelssohn and alleged lying in the Houses of Parliament,
• 43:23
  Speaker 12: and he said he would take the whip, so essentially
• 43:26
  Speaker 12: the membership away from anyone who voted against him on
• 43:30
  Speaker 12: Labour's side, and that seemed to knock everyone into line,
• 43:33
  Speaker 12: but very temporarily because after May the seventh, on Thursday,
• 43:38
  Speaker 12: there will be local elections that will solidify the fact
• 43:41
  Speaker 12: that he is one of the worst Prime Ministers in
• 43:44
  Speaker 12: the history of the United Kingdom. And it's been such
• 43:47
  Speaker 12: a fall from grace to have him go from a
• 43:50
  Speaker 12: massive majority win just merely over a year ago to this,
• 43:55
  Speaker 12: and that just shows how terrible his decisions, his leadership
• 43:59
  Speaker 12: and political prowess has really been.
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, this will get me in trouble. But in his
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: sort of ego reminds me of most barristers I've met
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: over the years. They sort of took down to you
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: rather than talk with you. I've got to say, And
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: all my lawyer friends will be bringing me up abusing
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: me for that. It's good news for perhaps the Reform
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: Party leader Nigel Faraj. I mean, give us some sort
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: of an update, Samara, on where the Farag's party is
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: at and what do we think we'll see in these
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: council elections when they unfold.
• 44:31
  Speaker 12: Look, it's safe to say it's Farage mania over here.
• 44:35
  Speaker 12: It is absolutely in favor of him at the moment.
• 44:39
  Speaker 12: I mean, the elections are looking like essentially the Greens
• 44:44
  Speaker 12: and Reform his party basically feasting on the carcass of labor.
• 44:48
  Speaker 12: To give you that horrible visual, but that is what
• 44:50
  Speaker 12: it's looking like. He's gone from strength to strength. Of course,
• 44:54
  Speaker 12: he suffered somewhat in the polls. There have been some
• 44:57
  Speaker 12: depths just due to difference of controversies within his new party,
• 45:02
  Speaker 12: people not acting as they should be. But he has
• 45:05
  Speaker 12: really cracked down on some of the more extreme elements
• 45:08
  Speaker 12: of reform and said, you know, we are a mainstream party.
• 45:11
  Speaker 12: We are here to make a difference, and I think
• 45:13
  Speaker 12: people just want change. It's very reminiscent of the Trump
• 45:17
  Speaker 12: years and Trump sort of finding his feet in America
• 45:21
  Speaker 12: and redefining what conservatism is.
• 45:23
  Speaker 10: With MAGA, I.
• 45:24
  Speaker 12: Think you can really see now that people are going
• 45:28
  Speaker 12: up to those voting stations and going to vote for change.
• 45:31
  Speaker 12: And of course in a local election you only get
• 45:33
  Speaker 12: those who are very passionate about voting because it's not
• 45:35
  Speaker 12: compulsory over here, and reformers are a very strong bunch.
• 45:40
  Speaker 12: They want something different for the country, and I can
• 45:43
  Speaker 12: see why. You've got rising crime rates, You've got absolutely
• 45:46
  Speaker 12: uncontrolled migration here, and the economy is in an absolute mess.
• 45:50
  Speaker 12: So one if they got to lose by voting for
• 45:53
  Speaker 12: a completely new party, not March Steve.
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: So do they like Nigel or do they just despise
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: Keith Starmer into a certain degree the Conservative leadership, whoever
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: that might be by the time you get to a
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: next election.
• 46:08
  Speaker 12: It's a great question. Actually, Look, I think it's Nigel.
• 46:12
  Speaker 12: He is a very charismatic character. You know, even I
• 46:15
  Speaker 12: when I have conversations with him. You don't usually get
• 46:18
  Speaker 12: that with politicians, and I don't agree with him on everything,
• 46:20
  Speaker 12: but there is that sort of charisma there where you
• 46:22
  Speaker 12: sort of go, WHOA, Okay, this guy might run the
• 46:25
  Speaker 12: country one day.
• 46:26
  Speaker 10: I think Kemy baidenok.
• 46:28
  Speaker 12: Who's the leader of the Conservatives, who Australians probably don't
• 46:30
  Speaker 12: even know who I'm talking about, because that's how sort
• 46:33
  Speaker 12: of our newsworthy she is, has totally plummeted the Liberal
• 46:38
  Speaker 12: Party or the Liberal Party, our Conservative Party into total disarray.
• 46:43
  Speaker 12: And Keir Starmer, I mean, he's got it about as
• 46:45
  Speaker 12: much charisma as a dawknob.
• 46:47
  Speaker 10: So yeah, I mean, you're right.
• 46:49
  Speaker 12: It is the lesser of all evils. But I also
• 46:52
  Speaker 12: think that there's something about Farage and the new brand
• 46:56
  Speaker 12: of Conservatism that he's been able to fashion out, and
• 46:59
  Speaker 12: I think people are allured by that. The party is
• 47:01
  Speaker 12: very much him. I hate to think what would happen
• 47:03
  Speaker 12: if something bad were to happen to Nigel. I don't
• 47:06
  Speaker 12: know what would happen to reform.
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: Just quickly promise me. He gets up this idea of
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: building detention centers for migrants in Green Council areas well.
• 47:18
  Speaker 12: I think it's fantastic. You get what you vote for.
• 47:22
  Speaker 12: I think that's refreshing. I think not enough politicians have
• 47:24
  Speaker 12: to actually be held to account when they vote for
• 47:27
  Speaker 12: all these policies. I mean, it's tantamount to putting a
• 47:30
  Speaker 12: sort of immigration center in Merrickville or Fitzroy or Brunswick.
• 47:36
  Speaker 12: Just think about how those local constituencies would react and
• 47:40
  Speaker 12: how open their minds would be when they have to
• 47:43
  Speaker 12: actually face the issue of uncontrolled, unfettered illegal migration. I mean,
• 47:48
  Speaker 12: we're talking about attacks every single day on British citizens
• 47:52
  Speaker 12: on British soil by these people who arrive on small boats.
• 47:55
  Speaker 12: They don't even get their biometrics done, and then and
• 47:58
  Speaker 12: then they get very upset because they get put into
• 48:00
  Speaker 12: all these working class areas who they know won't be
• 48:03
  Speaker 12: able to complain and rise up in the United Kingdom.
• 48:07
  Speaker 12: And if you have an issue with it, you get
• 48:09
  Speaker 12: branded a racist. So I mean, we're very lucky because
• 48:12
  Speaker 12: obviously Tony Abbott fixed our small boat crisis over in Australia,
• 48:17
  Speaker 12: but over here it is just reaching boiling point. I
• 48:20
  Speaker 12: mean genuinely it feels like civil war.
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: Yes, indeed, samorrow great to catch up. Can it chup
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: with you appreciate it. I'll talk to you next week.
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: That's Samara Gill in the UK. I must say our
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: dear friend Andrew Bolt once made policy announcement where he
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: said anyone who votes green should be forced to live
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: in a seat that does not get coal fired power.
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: No coal fired energy to anyone who lives in the
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: Korean seat, and they would have blackouts and blackouts and
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: blackouts because obviously the renewable energy is not going to
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: keep their lights on. It's quite extraordinary. I'll be back
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: tomorrow night for Andrew Chari's up next.