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EP: 71 Everyone Has an Angle: China, Israel, and Who Recruits Your Kids · The Sense and Senseless Podcast

• Bryan: I started thinking that I Gen X, we didn't give a fuck about politics. I say that all the time. We didn't. We didn't give a fuck about politics. So so who's to say that we was not the problem? So what I'm getting at is as Gen X, we were like, fuck the police, you know, fuck the government, fuck all this shit. We just turned our eyes away from government. And it's like, look, they're going to do what they're going to do. Whatever they do is going to be right or whatnot. We don't give a shit. Fuck it. We ain't dealing with it. Who's to say that we wasn't programmed to look away so they can take control the way they did? And we're the reason that we're in such a shithole right now, you know, where we thought that we was actually rebelling against the man. They actually played us to where we didn't look up and then start asking questions until we took too old to fucking fight back. No, quite possible that the generation that thought that they were raging against the machine was actually controlled, brainwashed. fucking creepy when you think of it that way. Jason: do they really think we're stupid? Yes, they do. They're weak with, Bryan: No, they think you're really stupid. Jason: they think we're weak too. That's the biggest thing they, they know, they know we're weak. Bryan: I'm to say we are weak. We're weak because we can't come together. If we were stronger, Jason: That's right. Bryan: we would be strong mentally to where we can put our differences aside and at least have a conversation. But we're too weak minded to put our differences aside to have a conversation because we have to be right. It's an excursion. It's a three day excursion. That's right. On a three hour to three. Jason: It's not it's excursion. Yeah. It's a three day excursion on carnival cruise on their tier one package. I mean, come on man. Yeah. Yeah. Sound like Gilligan's Island over here. Yeah. And there's probably some viewers that don't even know what the hell Gilligan's Bryan: It is it's pretty sad. Six months into a three day excursion. Jason: Island is. You'll have to YouTube that it's actually. I enjoyed watching that. If I ever seen it on, I'd probably still white because Maryann was hot. But anyways, yeah. Bryan: You thought Mary Ann was hotter than ginger? Jason: Yeah, I do. Bryan: You would have fucked Mrs. Howell, wouldn't you? If you were stuck on that island, would you have fucked Mrs. Howell? Jason: At my age now. would. But back in my 20s, I probably would have, she had all that money. Cause if we got off there, she probably would have hooked me up with a big house and Bryan: You Jason: hunting land and fishing and all that. And I wouldn't have to work. But anyways, why, Bryan: Okay, yeah. Jason: why you gotta, why, you know, my wife's going to watch this and be like, y'all are so, I bet you have visions. Bryan: Well, she would've fucked the professor. Jason: Yeah. Well, she probably would have, but she Bryan: So Jason: would, she'd be like, every time we're together, you're going to be thinking about Mrs. How or Marianne or ginger. Bryan: No, she's thinking you're thinking about Mary Ann. Jason: Yeah. Marianne was like the girl next door. meant, ginger was like the, the snobby movie star model. I'm seriously, I'm more into the girl next door than I am the model type. I'm not big on the models, those type of girls. I'm not, but Bryan: I can't say that I am either, but I want something that's fun. I don't want something that's going to lay there. Jason: Mary Ann, guarantee you, Mary Ann was a freak. You can't tell. I guarantee she was. Them girls are the ones that look quiet and all that stuff. Bryan: You think you think ask Gilligan what she was like, I'm sure Gilligan tap that ass Jason: Yeah. Geez, we're going places. Yeah. We're going real places tonight, but Bryan: Ha ha ha ha! Jason: what I can't even remember what the hell we were talking about. Go, go on. All right, kick it off. Bryan: Hey, welcome back to the sense and senseless podcast. am Brian. Jason: I'm Jason. Bryan: Is Jason this first time joining us? Welcome to the family. We're just two guys discussing shit in a way that everyone can understand. So what we're going to talk about tonight. Tonight, we're going to discuss Israel and its hold on the US's nuts. We'll touch on talk show and podcast hosts that have unwavering support visual. We'll discuss how students are recruited for organizations that push agendas, not just for Israel, but for government and corporate corporate corporate corporate corporations also. I got stuck. Jason: Spit it out there, Brian. Jeez. Bryan: It's like a fucking scratch CD. Jason: Right. Bryan: shit. Then I'll link this to the decline of support. For Israel and YTP USA was likely targeted by Israeli lobbyists to recruit young people and then get them to support the Holy Land. Stay Jason: Holy Bryan: with us, we're going away with this shit. Please like, share, follow and subscribe. We appreciate every single one of you, Jason. Guy, think. Jason: Spit it. Spit it. Bryan: Right. So that day I was listening to a podcast and they were discussing the amount of propaganda that we're getting out of China, which is making people hate the data centers. The short version was that China is using propaganda to get the American public to distrust data centers, which would allow China to grow AI faster than the US. So Jason: Mm. Bryan: I looked into this and yes, there's documented evidence of this happening. And according to the Hill, open AI disclosed it caught. clusters of chat GPT accounts tied to China-based influence operations generating social media content that leaked data center build-outs to rise in electricity prices for US families. OpenAI was careful to note this was a category one activity. Most of the generated posts had little to no observable engagement. the Chinese state media outlets have published content criticizing US data centers as environmentally and economically harmful. Even as Chinese government continues subsidizing its own domestic AI infrastructure buildup. The Chinese embassy in Washington has denied the specific allegations and called them groundless attacks or smears against China. All right, so what is a category one activity? This refers to open AI's use of breakout scale, a research for rating how much real world traction and influence operation achieves. It runs from one to six, six being the highest. So category one, which they said this was, content stays contained within fake and authentic network itself. Essentially no real engagement from genuine users. So that's the kind of propaganda we have. And then it's category two, Jason: Okay. Bryan: three and four. So when OpenAI said China Link data centers, posts were category one, that's the researchers way of saying We caught the operation, but it was largely talking to itself. Most of the generated posts that little to no observable engagement from actual people. In short, China has been actively promoting an amplifying anti-data center messaging directed at US audiences. This aligns with broader influence tactics that exploit real debates. But what I found that the opposition of these data centers is actually legitimate from local economic and environmental issues not foreign intervention. So the people of the area where these data centers are going are the ones that's actually bitching and the ones that bring in the most attention to them. But for some reason, we have a lot of people right now talking about this China influence. So I don't understand why they push in this angle. You know, for one, though, I got to admit, they're not lying. It's just another half true. Jason: Mm. Bryan: Multiple independent analysis like from wire.com find the bulk of the movement against data centers started through grassroots. Just like I was saying. So people local to the data centers are the ones that's bitching the most. It's not China that's actually doing the bidding. Not saying that they're not putting propaganda out there, but they're not the ones that's actually moving this. And the main reason I think is because Trump talks about data centers a lot and how well they're going to be in. I think Trump and the Republican party, they're very big on the data centers and the people are not. So you have to make people believe they're not seeing what they're seeing. So you bring in a boogeyman and you blame them for the bad press on the data centers and shit like that. That makes sense. Jason: Yeah. I mean, there's some other ties to it too, like the solar farms and stuff like that being put up for them and all that. Bryan: But is that Chinese propaganda? The solar farms? Jason: No, it's no, it's our own communities because they're doing it in our communities and they're just, it's weird. Like I would, I would have to like go around and videotape some of the solar farms. know. And I, you know, I've, I got a friend that has big contracts up near Indianapolis and then some up in Illinois of doing like thousands of acres of solar farm mowing. So. You know what I'm saying? Bryan: Yeah, I understand. I agree. I think that a lot of this stuff is people live with legitimate bitches. But when I started hearing the podcast start echoing this Chinese propaganda, which again, it's proven there is Chinese propaganda, but they're trying to push it as if everything is great with AI. It's not a problem. The only reason why it's a problem is because the China is telling us a problem so they can get ahead of us in our AI. Jason: Right. I mean, it's good. AI is co it's already there and it's just going to keep evolving. And I hate, man, I hate saying it because I don't want to go that route. I really don't, but I guess I'll be the, the, what they call that the, Not the prune, just the person that says what nobody else wants to say. Bryan: that we need it. Jason: No, well, it's just, if you don't, if, if you better get in front of it. Bryan: Well, I think if you don't embrace it, we're going to lose everything. And when I say we're going to lose everything, think about how wars fought now. Jason: yeah. Bryan: I mean, you need that to protect yourself. Not again. Jason: Yeah, you. Bryan: I with you. I wish we would never have it. Having said that, is here. What do you do with Jason: Right. Right. Bryan: it? Jason: Yeah. Bryan: So is it. Jason: Yeah. If you don't stay on the cutting front of it and stay out, you know, on the leading edge, it's just like, aircraft, you know, fighter jets, missile defenses and things like that. If you don't, if you're not on the forefront and you're behind on it, then you're very vulnerable. Right. So And we're already watching that a lot of warfare and stuff, hacking, you know what I'm saying? The hackers and, things like that, that chemical or biological, you know, with, viruses and things, there's all kinds of stuff out there. Now you just, you don't even have to put weapons in nobody's hands anymore. Bryan: No, no, you can, you can do a lot of stuff with over the internet and hack and destroy something and knocking grid systems down. Jason: Yeah. Ship a vial over here and let it loose and it, and some disease goes around and wipes half of our country out. I mean. And you brought up a good point. We're sitting there. We got a stockpile of weapons and munitions and all that stuff. And we're sitting there throwing it at Iran. You know, we're, over there bombing a desert, not even, can't even tell the difference what we're doing. Cause what were, where are we hitting? You you're just, you're not hitting Europe. You're not hitting China. You're hitting a shit hole. It's like, dude, it's like, I'm being serious. It's like, it's like throwing a turd in a fucking Bryan: No, I agree with you. You blowing up the sand. Jason: sewage system and think you made a difference. You didn't that sewage system's full of turds to begin with. And you're throwing another turd in there. Bryan: Yeah, not Jason: and I'll- Bryan: don't get it twisted people. It's not the people Iran. mean, Iran is a big desert. I mean, you bombing up your bomb in the sand. Jason: Yeah. You're bombing the salmon and that's what I'm getting at. You're throwing a lot of munitions and then less, which we don't know everything we got. don't, and there's no checks and balances for that. And you can't have that because then it gets out and you don't want your enemies or your code enemies to know that you don't know. You never want to show your hand in the military, but if they keep Bryan: If thinking of the whole. Jason: running us out, then China and Russia can come over here and just. Bryan: If we Jason: The only thing that would save us is the, is the normal people like me, you and the other people that have guns, weapons and ammo. But what are we going to do against tanks and. Bryan: Well, we're going to outnumber him just like you would do to big guy. You just have to out. You just have to flash out number. Jason: But okay, is that why they, is that why they keep us all fighting one another? So we can't do that. Bryan: is exactly why they keep us fighting one another is exactly why. Now, what was Toma, you said something. Jason: Ay-yah. Ay-yah. Bryan: Now you had said something that it was was a war. Jason: Yeah, all those munitions, we keep throwing it. Bryan: OK, yeah, all right. That's what I want to go back to. So if we had unlimited munitions, as Pete says and and Trump has said, do you think we would have stopped shooting over there? Jason: Yeah, we wouldn't have been taking breaks and seize fires and stuff like that. Bryan: No, I think we would have just kept bombing and bombing and just saying, look, we can keep this up all day. You know, Jason: Yeah. Until you, until you raise your hand and say, or until you tap out, we're going to keep doing this. Bryan: I just, I could be wrong. I don't think that the administration we have right now would have would just stop. I'm not going to say they would kill all those people, but I think they would constantly be taken out different sites. You know what I'm getting at? They would use precision attacks to just to keep Jason: Yes. Bryan: hitting them. Jason: Yes, but they would keep making it worse and worse and worse. Like you got it. It's like turning up the dial. Bryan: Yep. Yep. Yep. Bringing the heat on them. Jason: And until we're going to find your breaking point and we got plenty of time and plenty of weapons or plenty of munitions to do it. we got Russia would be that way. And China would be that way too. I truly believe they have stockpiles as big as we have some States. Bryan: I would believe that. I mean, that's what Germany did before World War Two. I mean, they were building their Jason: Yeah. Bryan: military while everybody else was, you know, feeding their people, you know, because of the depression. Jason: Yeah. Yeah. Bryan: Now, why did they even bring up data centers? Because we're not even going to talk about data centers tonight, honestly. And the only reason I brought it up because it highlights that everyone that you hear has an angle Jason: Mm. Bryan: and It's definitely true when you look at a podcast, a radio host, news anchors. And again, it's not that I think they're all lying to you. OK, let me be free. Some of them are just straight up fucking lying to you. You know, they just no matter what they say, they're just going to lie. This is just how they are. Jason: Well, yeah, they're doing shit for likes and views and shit. Bryan: Yeah, but yeah, but I would assume that most aren't really lying. They just put in their spin on it. You know what I'm getting Jason: Yeah, right. Bryan: at? So I try my best to each week to bring facts, but but as humans, Jason: Mm-hmm. Bryan: we all have a built in bias. We all do. I don't care. I mean, Jason: Mm-hmm. Right. Bryan: you like your kids more than you like other people's kids, regardless that Jason: Nah, there was some kids I really liked. Damn, I wish I had them kids. Bryan: But you know, I'm gonna that's a bias, you Jason: Yeah, I know. Bryan: know Jason: Now I my kids. Yeah. Bryan: It's up to you to try to see things from another perspective and generally tried to see what is on the other side instead of just looking for what is wrong with the other side. Jason: Right. Bryan: And I started thinking about this because of the China data center thing. It made me start questioning a lot of things I've heard from podcasters in the past. And while there many podcasters that I don't trust anymore, this particular podcast that I was listening to, I mean, it still has a lot of good information, but I can tell they definitely have a bias towards the Trump agenda. You know, and don't get me wrong. I have to admit I was on we talked about going to the me going to the Trump rally. I was on the Trump train and I didn't jump off the Trump train. All right. But I'm not listening to conduct anymore. You know Jason: D'oh! Bryan: what I'm saying? I'm looking around that motherfucker to try to see what's really going on. You know, I I'm at maybe on the back, you know, trying to figure this shit out, but. Jason: Well, can we, can we safely say that you got out of the sleeper car and you got up and you packed your shit and you walked your ass to the caboose. You might still Bryan: yeah, I can't say that. Jason: be hanging in there, but you might get off on the next exit because. Dude, he's not, we voted not for damn Trump. People need to shut the hell up. We, I didn't vote for a guy. I voted for what he said he was going to do. That's what I voted for. Bryan: His agenda. Yep. Jason: It was an agenda that he promised he was going to do. Instead of, if you get, yeah. So if you take one drink and then you take two drinks, then you took, then you took three drinks and that's what Kamala sounded like. She never, what the hell did she ever do? Somebody put it out. I'll reel this or whatever. Put in the damn comments, load it up. I don't care what, and I don't want to hear what Trump didn't do and what he said and he did what. What did Kamala bring? What did she bring? Bryan: No, I agree. I think while I don't agree with everything that's happening with Trump and it's some things are disappointing, some things he does. OK, you know, I still have to say. And some people disagree with this, I think Doge was good and I think the getting rid of the immigrants, the mass deportation that he was Jason: Mm-hmm. Bryan: working on or still working on, I still agree with that. Do I think some of the tactics look bad? Yes, I'm not going to say they didn't. But I agree with getting those people out of here. I just do. You know, just it's not that I hate those people or whatnot. If you watched our last show and we're in some serious fucking debt, you know, we can't just keep bringing people into this country. We just can't and expect ourselves to survive. So I think he did those things great. But there's a lot of things I just don't like. And I just can't stick behind that. You know, and as I ran thing is just the epitome. For me, you know, I just can't understand that. Jason: No new wars. mean, you promised no new wars. We're two veterans. I served in Iraq in 2004. I was over there for a year. And I wasn't behind the wire. I was on the road. I was all up in Iraq, hauling equipment and bringing it back down to Kuwait. I don't want to hear, well, this ain't really a war. is. It's a conflict. Call it whatever Bryan: If it's not. Jason: the hell you want to. mean, you, people come, they want to twist words and like, well, it's not really dad. It's Epic fury. Now it's Epic cutoff. Now it's Epic little penis. I mean, It's it's little excursions. It's not it's excursion. Yeah. It's a three day excursion on carnival cruise on their tier one package. I mean, come on man. Yeah. Bryan: It's an excursion. It's a three day excursion. That's right. On a three hour to three. Jason: Yeah. Sound like Gilligan's Island over here. Yeah. And there's probably some viewers that don't even know what the hell Gilligan's Bryan: It is it's pretty sad. Six months into a three day excursion. Jason: Island is. You'll have to YouTube that it's actually. I enjoyed watching that. If I ever seen it on, I'd probably still white because Maryann was hot. But anyways, yeah. Bryan: You thought Mary Ann was hotter than ginger? Jason: Yeah, I do. Bryan: You would have fucked Mrs. Howell, wouldn't you? If you were stuck on that island, would you have fucked Mrs. Howell? Jason: At my age now. would. But back in my 20s, I probably would have, she had all that money. Cause if we got off there, she probably would have hooked me up with a big house and Bryan: You Jason: hunting land and fishing and all that. And I wouldn't have to work. But anyways, why, Bryan: Okay, yeah. Jason: why you gotta, why, you know, my wife's going to watch this and be like, y'all are so, I bet you have visions. Bryan: Well, she would've fucked the professor. Jason: Yeah. Well, she probably would have, but she Bryan: So Jason: would, she'd be like, every time we're together, you're going to be thinking about Mrs. How or Marianne or ginger. Bryan: No, she's thinking you're thinking about Mary Ann. Jason: Yeah. Marianne was like the girl next door. meant, ginger was like the, the snobby movie star model. I'm seriously, I'm more into the girl next door than I am the model type. I'm not big on the models, those type of girls. I'm not, but Bryan: I can't say that I am either, but I want something that's fun. I don't want something that's going to lay there. Jason: Mary Ann, guarantee you, Mary Ann was a freak. You can't tell. I guarantee she was. Them girls are the ones that look quiet and all that stuff. Bryan: You think you think ask Gilligan what she was like, I'm sure Gilligan tap that ass Jason: Yeah. Geez, we're going places. Yeah. We're going real places tonight, but Bryan: Ha ha ha ha! Jason: what I can't even remember what the hell we were talking about. Go, go on. Bryan: So the Trump administration, do you think that they doing some shady shit or they got some shady shit Jason: Yeah. Bryan: going on? Jason: Yes. Bryan: And especially when you look at how our government and the relationship with our Holy Land is, do you think there's some shit with that? OK. Jason: Yes, we've already discussed that. Bryan: Well, no, I'm just we have to do that each week because we might have new listeners. So, you know, it's not. Jason: Yeah. So we do ask you guys, like, don't go all the way back to the beginning of our crap because it was pretty, pretty rough. But yeah, for, yeah, we've, Bryan: It was pretty awful. It's It's bad. Now you should have seen it before. Jason: we finally graduated kindergarten. I got half a pack left of the small pack. You know, my parents couldn't Bryan: That's right, and we didn't eat all the fucking crayons Jason: afford the big nice 98. package, but anyways, no, they're there. You show clips on the last show of head, Seth Opie running his mouth. And then Trump talking and then Bassett talking. we're about to sanction the piss out of anybody that, that supports Iran and then, but we're not going to do it right. It starts today. The clock starts right now while I'm talking and then, well, we're going to give them some time. Bryan: Cause we would want to collapse the world economy. Jason: Yeah, we're just going to tell you guys if it gets to that point, we're collapsing the economy. So we're going to give you some time, even though the clock started like 30 minutes ago. Bryan: Don't make me tell you stop again. Jason: Yeah. Bryan: Cause I'll tell you stop again. Don't make me tell you again. Jason: Yeah. It's like when you're bent over at the doctor and you're supposed to get a prostate exam, he's got both hands on your shoulder. You look back like, Hey, don't make me tell you to stop, but you let him go. Bryan: Don't try. Are you done yet? It's been a while. Jason: Was that a weird analogy? Bryan: This is a weird exam. Jason: Yeah. Bryan: Are you trying to clean it out? You've been in there a while. Jason: I thought it was supposed to last three minutes. This has been six hours. And what's that music in this camera crew in here for, but anyways, they always ask about the camera crew. Bryan: Alright, let's just move on. Jason: God, we're going to hell in a hand basket tonight. but no, you Bryan: See you Jason: listen to them talk, do their PR people need to be fired. Bryan: Why do why do our government people have PR firms? Jason: I don't know, but anybody that sat back and said that was good. That was like high five Pete and said, very well done. Bryan: Somebody probably wrote that form. Jason: know, what reminds me of it reminds me of watching the candidate with Will Ferrell and Zach Gaffan, a lot of us or whatever, however you pronounce his name Bryan: Yeah, Snuffleufagus. Jason: or sniffle, I guess. And, and, and, and Will Ferrell is sitting there trying to come up with those commercials to go at him. And they're high fiving in his, in his campaign office and stuff like, yeah, yeah. And it's like, it's like something a fifth grader came up with and they think it's. Yeah, that's going to get the people. Bryan: Well, they think we're all idiots. I mean, most of us are, but they think we're lower idiots than what we actually are. Jason: Right. Bryan: Yeah. They have to tell us what everything is. You know, they have to teach us, you know, what colors are and. Jason: Well, what did we say back in the day? All we had was that little bit of local news, right? At the 30 minute. And then you had the world news for, was it 30 minutes to, an hour? Yeah. So you Bryan: It was 30 minutes, yeah. No, it was 30 minutes. Jason: had your local then the world and then like jeopardy or will of fortune or something came on at, know, so five 30 to six was a local six to, or no. Well, however it happened, it was local. It was Bryan: They might've both been our. Jason: local world, local, then. something came on like Jeopardy or will of fortune for 30 minutes. And then you got in to your nightly pro like Alf and home improvement and things like that from seven till nine o'clock at night. And then at 10, your, your local news came back on again. So you only got that 30 minutes of, of news of your area. And I think social media and the, the internet and all that, vast offering of information is exposing them and they weren't ready for it. Bryan: quite possible. Or they weren't ready. They weren't ready for people. Jason: Ready or they got your mental. What the fuck you going to do about it? What are you going to do about it? Brian and Jason, we hear you. We hear your stupid ass podcast. What are you going to, you're right. You're a hundred percent Bryan: Yeah. What are you going do about? Jason: right. What are you going to do about it? Bryan: Nothing. can do about it. You need a lot more people than just you. Jason: You and your close to 300 followers on Facebook and your 1400 followers on Tik TOK and whatever we have on YouTube, where y'all going to gather together and. Bryan: And most of them are probably bots. Jason: Yeah. Like a lot of our viewers and Hey, we thank you. We really do. I, I, Bryan: Yeah. Jason: I feel flattered that we have a lot of out of country viewers. If that's true. If it's true people. Bryan: Yeah, I'm glad just anybody listens to us. Jason: Yeah. So, you know, get on board, you can get on board and dog on us. We're dogging on ourselves. And the reason why we're dogging, cause we're upset. We're tired of our country being like this. There's no sense in it, but the dude. They don't get, you're right. We'll never come together. Bryan: but not designed to come together. Jason: And they're just going to continue doing what they're wanting to do. And we're like, do they really think we're stupid? Yes, they do. They're weak with, Bryan: No, they think you're really stupid. Jason: they think we're weak too. That's the biggest thing they, they know, they know we're weak. Bryan: I'm to say we are weak. We're weak because we can't come together. If we were stronger, Jason: That's right. Bryan: we would be strong mentally to where we can put our differences aside and at least have a conversation. But we're too weak minded to put our differences aside to have a conversation because we have to be right. Jason: Yeah, me and my buddy's supervisor that I was talking, they got the fentanyl show. we were talking in the hallway at work the other night saying we need to get rid of the Republican and the democratic party and just, we need to vote the best person in. And if, and then they need to be on like a 30, 60, 90, right? They need to be on a, what do you call that at work? we called it, like I said, a 30, 60, 90, probation Bryan: probationary period? Jason: period. And if you're not performing and doing what you were voted in for, then guess what? You're out of there and we'll put the next guy in. Eventually somebody is going to hit it because they're going to real up. Bryan: We'll put them on the gong show. Jason: Huh? Bryan: We'll put them on a gong show. So we'll bring them out and you don't remember the gong show. They would have talent Jason: I kind of remember that a little bit. Bryan: come out and if they suck, they'd go out and they hit the gong. Yeah. And they gong and take them off. We put them on the gong show and then, you know, Jason: They gong them. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Bryan: we'll bring them out. And if the audience don't like them, we'll gong them and we'll vote somebody else in because we're too stupid. We're too stupid to understand Jason: Well that or you give them a year, you get- Bryan: the voting process. So we'll do the gong show. Jason: Yes. So we give them a year and every year they get evaluated and if they don't pass evaluation, they're gone. Agree? Bryan: I agree. Because once they get in the majority of the time, and I think I got a video in one of these that they, they're going to get reelected as long as they have name recognition. Jason: Yes. Bryan: You know, so they just get stuck in there because we as a society don't give enough shit about who's getting elected. We just see a sign that name becomes infected in your brain. You go vote and you just Jason: Mm-hmm. Bryan: vote for what you just see, you know, or who's been on the television on these. fucking commercials over and over and over and over. Jason: You put it on the comments before to people that comment on our stuff that kind of voted for the lesser of two evils. I'm tired of doing that. Are you not? We don't get nobody. Bryan: No, I have to admit, I I thought I voted for the right person. I'm not going to say I didn't. Jason: But he's still the lesser of the two evils, is he not? Bryan: He was the better. was the better option, regardless of how you looked at it. In my opinion, he's still the better Jason: Yes. Yes. Bryan: option. Jason: Yes. If I had to do it all over again, and then we'll go forward. would still vote for him because I'm telling you, I seen what the Roomba, the human Roomba did. And I know what his predecessor, the alcoholic was going to do. Bryan: I agree with you. I would still have voted for him again. That doesn't change my vote. Again, that doesn't mean that I'm not disappointed, Jason: Yes, I'm fully disappointed. Bryan: So how? Jason: People don't understand that you can be that way, Brian. You can't be that. No, you voted for him, put up with it. No, stop telling me I can't be disappointed in somebody that I voted for because they're not holding up to what they said they were going to do. Bryan: Well, here's the question. So if you don't Jason: Ahem. Bryan: vote for him and Kamala gets in the people that say, well, you voted for him. Tell me how it was going to be better the opposite way. mean, what was going to be different? And they can't. And what they will tell you is, well, they wouldn't be doing what Trump's doing. You don't know that. You know. Jason: I don't want to hear they wouldn't be doing, tell me what they would have been doing. Not what they wouldn't have Bryan: Exactly. How would they have made our lives better? Jason: done. Tell me what they would have done. You know, Obama said change. Remember his whole campaign. There's going to be Bryan: Hope and Change. Jason: changed. There's going to be change change. What 50 cents 75. Are we talking loose change in your pocket? What kind of change? He never said the change. He screwed up our healthcare system, but we had good medical healthcare for my company. And then it got penalized for his shit and it went to hell in a hand basket. Bryan: Damn Obama. Jason: Bastard handing out free cell phones to people. Bryan: So who ran against Obama? Do you remember? I don't remember. Jason: Bush, he beat Bush Bryan: No. Jason: Bush, Bush jr. Only had two, one term, right? Bryan: I don't know, did he? Did build Bush? I don't know. Well, the reason I'm asking is whoever would have beat him, how would it have been better? I don't know. I'm just asking. I wasn't into Jason: Damn, boy, that's... Bryan: politics at all back then. Jason: Me neither. And people like, I don't even know who ran against Obama. We both have, we've Bryan: No, I don't. I give a fuck. Jason: admitted a million times. I didn't vote until like six years ago, five years ago, something like that. Bryan: Well, why you look that up? This made me think of something while I was on vacation. I started thinking that I Gen X, we didn't give a fuck about politics. I say that all the time. We didn't. We didn't give a fuck about politics. So so who's to say that we was not the problem? So what I'm getting at is as Gen X, we were like, fuck the police, you know, fuck the government, fuck all this shit. We just turned our eyes away from government. And it's like, look, they're going to do what they're going to do. Whatever they do is going to be right or whatnot. We don't give a shit. Fuck it. We ain't dealing with it. Who's to say that we wasn't programmed to look away so they can take control the way they did? And we're the reason that we're in such a shithole right now, you know, where we thought that we was actually rebelling against the man. They actually played us to where we didn't look up and then start asking questions until we took too old to fucking fight back. No, quite possible that the generation that thought that they were raging against the machine was actually controlled, brainwashed. fucking creepy when you think of it that way. So what'd you find out who was who he's running against? Jason: wait was John McCain. And I remember that now it was Sarah Palin and John McCain. Cause we're going to drill, drill, Bryan: So how would it have been better? Jason: drill. Bryan: Do you think it would have been if they would have gotten? Jason: They acted like they were going to drill the shit out of some oil and, and, Palin came from Alaska, I think. And to me, that may have opened that wide open. That may have, I don't know. We may have been more energy independent. Bryan: Do think your healthcare would have been better? Jason: I don't know. I don't know. Bryan: don't know either, that's why I'm asking. Jason: I don't think they would have fooled with it. I don't think they would have pushed that universal healthcare. Bryan: Do you blame everybody that voted for Obama on your healthcare? Jason: No, not the people that voted for him. I vote I blame him for doing it. Bryan: Okay. Okay. That's the reason I'm asking because everyone will blame us for voting for Trump on what the problem is today. That's the reason I Jason: No, no. Because I'm sure there was a lot of people that voted for Obama that didn't want the health care mess with. Bryan: I'm sure there was, you know. Jason: And then Mitt Romney ran against him in 2012. Bryan: Okay. Jason: I mean, John McCain, thought him and Sarah Palin had a good chance against him because you're bringing a female vice president in. thought that was going to push or get the women vote, but it didn't. I think they went a little too, slap happy with the drill, baby drill or whatever. Bryan: Mmm. All right. So how are we all sold that Israel was a holy land and we have to support it at all costs? Well, back in the day, we had big Christian Zionist preachers like Pat Robertson in the 700 Club. Remember that? Jason: Mm-hmm. Bryan: As well as all Roberts, Jerry Falwell, senior. You remember those guys? Jason: Mm-hmm. Bryan: Now we have Mark Levine, Sean Hannity, Ben Shapiro, Glenn Beck, Mike Huckabee, and many others that will tell you that without Israel, the U.S. would crumble. We need Israel. But do they really believe that based off of fact or are they just feeding you their bias so they can profit or someone they know or work for profits? Now, do we really need Israel? I mean, is that do we really need them? Jason: Mm-mm. Bryan: We already know they control our elections. I mean, they proved that with Thomas Massey. But here's a two minute rundown of how Israel can affect our elections. That's a lot of money to invest in our fucking elections, Jason: Hmm. Bryan: Don't make a lot of sense, does it? Jason: Where's it? Who gets that money? Bryan: Well, that's just spent on the campaign so they can put more commercials out and shit. know, rain name recognition. Now, I'm sure there's some skimming on top of it, but you know what I'm getting at? That's campaign donation. Jason: Damn, I think I threw it away. I was gonna find my full hat and throw it on. I got a little thing for you. Hear me out. Bryan: What's that? Okay. Jason: Trump did what he did the first term. I felt he was doing what he said he was going to do. Bryan: I think he did up until COVID. Jason: Okay. COVID hit that kind of threw a monkey wrench in there. Next thing you know, this blumbering fool gets in there. That may have been a good dude back in the, well, no, he wasn't. He was a racist son of a buck people. got videotape of him supporting segregation and all. Well, that was just the way of the times back then. They didn't know anybody. Bullshit. Bullshit. He was, mean, Kamala called him out on stage about it when they were both running. Bryan: You know, it's funny that they would use that Jason: And wanted an apology for him, but. Bryan: as the way at a time to protect Joe Biden, but they won't use it as a way of the times to protect our our leaders and our generals and shit. They want to tear down their statues because they owned a slave or something. What in the way at a time Jason: Yep. Yep. So Bryan: then? Jason: yeah, it's, it's a bullshit, but anyways, how does he, how does he outdo somebody that had gas prices and grocery prices? I mean, dude, I felt we were, we were living the high life until COVID come out. Trump couldn't be what we thought. We thought Trump couldn't be bought off, right? Bryan: Yeah, that's what I thought. Jason: Okay. Maybe he couldn't and Israel showed him, well, we're fixing to show you what happens when you, when you won't take our money. He got a taste. You see what I'm saying? He got a taste of that presidency. And then what did he look what he lost to? We're talking about how he's built and how Trump's wired. Bryan: Mm-hmm. Jason: You said his pride would make him not do this or do that. Well, His pride got hurt because Biden won that damn election. Rom writer and different. He, he, Bryan: That's quite possible. That's quite possible. Jason: you think Israel pulled it to prove a point to him. And now Bryan: pulled what? Jason: he won it the second time because. Bryan: that Israel actually got Biden to win, think? Is what you're saying? That's Jason: Yeah. Yes. Bryan: quite possible. Jason: To prove a point that Trump that you better, like if you run again, you better bow down to us. And then we'll let, because he had the popular people, not the popular fake vote, but the popular people vote. I feel like his first, when he won the first time, I don't think Israel had their hand in it. Bryan: Now the first time he won, he won with the electoral college, second, cause they kept saying Hillary won with the popular vote, which she did, but he won the electoral college. And the second time he won with the electoral college and the popular vote. Jason: Yes. Bryan: So I don't know. mean, it's quite possible, dude. You know, anything's possible right now. I don't take anything off the table. Jason: Because what he's doing doesn't make sense to me. I'm confused. Bryan: Yeah, I don't understand that at all. Jason: I'm not, I, I'm not going to, I voted for him because I wanted gas and groceries and all that shit to get back to down. I wanted it. I mean, I was seeing like not stuff like when I was in high school, when gas was under a dollar a gallon, but I was seeing it like we seen it hit like one 75, one 80 or something. That was like what gas was in California back in the early nineties. Remember when we were there Bryan: Yeah. Jason: or the, yeah, early to yeah. Bryan: early nineties, mid nineties. Jason: mid nineties, like it was a buck 50 bucks 60 over there, but I was like, holy cow, man, this is awesome. And that's what I voted for. I didn't vote for what he's doing over there. didn't. And well, that comes with it. That comes. No, it doesn't. He promised not to do that. He said Kamala would start a war in Iran. Did he not? Bryan: Yeah, he did. He said she was still World War III. Jason: Yeah. Bryan: All right. Well, here's how Israel controls Jason: Anyways, go ahead. Bryan: the U S is a little short clip, about 30 seconds long. Pretty simple. Jason: Don't have to get the people. You just got to get the lawmakers. Bryan: That's all you got to do. It seems like they got Jason: Mmm. Bryan: that. or the president. right, Jason: Yeah. Bryan: so now let's go down a short rabbit hole and link the Zionist movement to TP USA. So we're going to start this out on the college campus. So Christian Zionists and Israel lobby not only have media, they start when the people at the young, they get they get our young. And now to be fair, There are multiple groups on college campus that recruit young people on both sides of the house. So this is just not, you know, like APAC and Israel, just the only ones out there getting it. They all out there fucking recruiting these college kids. Jason: Mm-hmm. Bryan: And the reasons for all of these groups are to spread an agenda and they need young people to reach out to other young people and infect their brains early. These groups I am talking about. All of them, like the NRA, the college Republicans, the college Democrats, planned Parenthood, all have the same agenda when recruiting these kids. And it has nothing to with helping the kids or our country. Now, APAC on campus and their tactics, these groups, they recruit on campus for the simple reason colleges where the future voters, staffers, journalists, lawyers, donors. and executives form their politics while they're still cheap to organize and easy to train. And these groups don't need to get a fuck ton of people that they just need to get the loud convicted students that will push their cause while not listening to reason. know, Jason: Mm. Bryan: critical thinking isn't supported. They only need to know what their talking points are and how to defend the story of the day. It's all in enough. And these people become part of a political and corporate class as they get older. Therefore you can get more done with less as they help write the rules and the laws while the rest of us just follow what they write or what they enforce. And this is not because we're all sheep, but this is because we're taught to follow the law and the rules. You know, we're taught to do the right thing. And they convince you that going against the grain makes you a bad person. That question and status quo is wrong. But why is this wrong? You know, in my opinion, questioning the status quo is only wrong because They don't want you to think critically. They don't want a discussion. They don't want an actual debate. They want to tell you what to believe. And when you question what they're telling you, they just want to shout you down or call you crazy. no real defense. You know, they have nothing to say on their stance. All they can tell you is what they're telling you. And I said it that way because sometimes I don't think they actually believe what they're telling you. They just have to protect their talking points. So they use half truths and lies to convey that they believe what they're saying. And so should you. That brings us to TP USA. TP USA was the campus juggernaut when Charlie was alive. When Charlie came on campus, it was a fucking event. Early on TP USA and Charlie were huge supporters of Israel. But according to Candace and a couple of others like Megan Kelly and Tucker, Charlie moved away from his support for Israel. That meant the Jason: Mm-hmm. Bryan: juggernaut on campus no longer supported the holy. Jason: Mm-hmm. Bryan: That meant that recruiting young college people for APAC or any other multiple of the Israel groups on campus was going to suffer. And why do I say this? Well, let's just look at the numbers. As you can see, Israel has a huge support issue. The lower you go in age group. which meant that if Israel's support doesn't get younger, they will lose support altogether. And What organization was the campus juggernaut? Jason: I 18 to 29. Yeah. TP USA. Bryan: That's TP USA. So look at that. I mean, they needed desperately to get young people involved in their shit, right? TP Jason: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Bryan: USA is the juggernaut going around campuses. They're the ones that can push any agenda. Jason: Mm-hmm. Bryan: And Charlie backs out of the Israel agenda. and Jason: and that 18 to 29 group goes away. Bryan: I don't know, Jason: Connect the dots. Bryan: that deep at TP USA support in Israel would have been everything Israel needed to get the support from the younger people. But Charlie, I guess, fucked that up when he stopped supporting Israel, Jason: Mm-hmm. Bryan: which luckily for Israel, Charlie was assassinated in broad daylight on a campus Jason: Mm-hmm. Bryan: and 4K HD for the world to see almost as if it was a fucking message. to others on what happens when you lose support for the Holy land. But that's just my thought process. My brain's a little fucked up, but could be possible. Jason: Mm-hmm. Bryan: There are a couple of things. What's that? Jason: Very plausible. Bryan: Very plausible. There are a couple of things. No one accounted for. Number one, Charlie Kirk was TP USA. TP USA is a shell without Charlie and number Jason: Mm-hmm. Bryan: two, they underestimated Candace's sheer will to find out the truth and take the battle to them with truth. Even when she doesn't have positive proof. Jason: Mm-hmm. Bryan: So I think they, I can't say that they had anything to do with Charlie's death. It's just. It's a coincidence. know, we'll see one day. Alright, moving on. Does all that make sense though on how that could okay. Jason: It does. It does. And it just keeps bringing up shit because like I said, we're gun knowledge people and the whole it's just because they not have figured out a better way to try to mask that or make it look different than what it was. Bryan: I listened to a guy earlier and I just remembered this. He said that all this could be they can answer all this if they just that mic that he had on. Where's the mic? Jason: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Bryan: He was saying about how much data that mic held, he described the mic and the quality of a sound it has, and it could you could have used that to. to measure the sound of the shot to see where it came from. said, there's so much information you could have got from that mic. He said, just where's the mic? Jason: and exploded. Bryan: You know, it's like you can erase all of that. Just where's the mic. Jason: Hmm? Bryan: That's pretty, I didn't even think about that until I heard that. I think it was earlier today. I heard that. Earlier, we talked about podcasters and media hosts putting their spin on or their bias on what they're talking about. And here in America, you can do that. You know, we got freedom of speech, right? Jason: Mm-hmm. Bryan: Well, according to a former ambassador to Israel, not so much. This is from unredacted media. Better watch yourself, they're gonna throw you in jail. Jason: You talking to me? Bryan: That's fucked up! Jason: I know it is. You, you've been on the hinge for Israel for awhile now. Bryan: It's just every week, the more I look at it, the more shit that comes up. it's like, man, how do they infect us so much? I don't get it. Jason: Mm-hmm. Bryan: When you talk like that, should should that give Israel more support from the United States? You know, they talk about throwing people in jail for speaking what they feel. Jason: Yeah, no, no. Where's our freedoms at? Bryan: Yeah, it don't make any sense. You know, so we're not allowed to say what we see or speak our opinions. And then we got people like this son of a bitch. I've heard of people like meeting. Other people and not washing their hands. Jason: Mm-hmm. Bryan: But man, this guy, he didn't meet the Pope or anything. This guy met Bibi Netanyahu and he's one of our fucking government people. How can you shake any man's hand and have to go touch your children? You can't wash my hand till I touch my children. Jason: Because he thinks he's God, dude, because he's brainwashed. Bryan: It is sick. And that's in our government. That is sick. And out of pitches, we looked at Gaza since October 7th, 2023. mean, Gaza looks pretty fucking rough, right? Here's Trump pretty much telling the world he not only supported the bombing of Gaza, fuck, he supplied the weapons. And this is from October 2025. They're pretty happy, ain't they? Jason: Yeah. Hell yeah, they're getting damn good weapons. Bryan: man, I'm I'm not sure how you get support when you look at what's being done. You know, and this shit's not new. It's just being seen. Jason: Right. Right. Bryan: And they don't want you to see it. Jason: Nope. We're going to jail, Bryan: Last thing before we go is a video that shed some light on the past and how we've been cuckold for some time now. This is how Israel got. Jason: The cook chair! Bryan: They put us in the cup chair. Israel fucking cuckold us. Check this one out. And there we go. It's pretty fucked Jason: Mm-hmm. Bryan: up. mean, JFK Jr. They just didn't agree with them? Jason: Yeah, and the conspiracy theory is that Russia took him out. Bryan: You think Russia. Jason: So now you should, we sure it wasn't Israel took him out. Bryan: I know there's a lot of things that point to them, but JFK does multiple things that JFK didn't like what those guys had going on and Jason: Man, I had no idea about that. I'm not gonna lie. Bryan: you didn't? Jason: No, not what you just showed. I didn't know Bryan: Okay, well I got it. Jason: JFK was putting the clamps on him and the next thing you know, he's gone and Lyndon B. Johnson just goes in there and undoes, does everything. Bryan: Everything that they wanted. Jason: I thought the whole thing with, with JFK and all that was his, didn't want to get involved with Vietnam. Bryan: He had that there was the Gulf of Tonkin and they had the Cuban Missile Crisis Jason: the Cuban Missile Crisis. Bryan: and there was what was the other one they wanted? They wanted to do false flags. Jason: Bay of Pigs. Bryan: No, they want to do false flag attacks on the U.S. and blame it on Cuba. He was against that. There was all kind Jason: Yeah. Bryan: of things that JFK was against and. Yeah, they just all got together and said, you know what, he's got to go. Jason: Yep, can't control this bastard. Bryan: Can't control. Kind of like they did old Charlie Kirk. Jason: Yep. And I think that they were doing it to try. think Trump got threatened too. Bryan: It's quite possible. mean, shit, they shot at him once. You know, I. Jason: You Bryan: You still don't think that was a shot at Butler? What do you think did it? Jason: Huh? I think it was staged. Bryan: You think that they like he had like something on his ear to just pop? You think so? Jason: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Bryan: And it just put that kid up there and shot him. I don't know. It's possible. I mean, anything's fucking possible now. I don't fucking know anything anymore. And not that I knew anything before, but it's like everything I learned is wrong. Jason: I think what I just told you earlier, Trump got in there his first term. And I don't think it was bought. I think he came in there, nobody gave him a chance and he got it. Bryan: No, I think. Jason: But I don't, I don't think he was, I think he was doing his own thing. He was coming in there like he, like a wrecking ball, like he said he was going to. And I, I would have really would have liked what would have happened the second term. But I think Israel showed their hand and we didn't know it. We always think it's back and forth. Like the belt's going between John Cena and the undertaker and then back to John Cena and back to it wasn't the whole story is in the back is McMahon and them are writing the scripts and the stories. That's Israel. You see what I'm saying? And Israel gave it to Biden and Kamala to show Trump. This is what happens. Bryan: It's possible. One thing I don't like. Jason: When you don't get in check because it's funny that he ran on his same shit. Like, Hey, I'm going to come in and finish part two of what y'all guys have. When part one, gets in there. He hasn't done shit. He's totally done exactly opposite of what he said. Bryan: first 30 days or so he did pretty good. Not that that's a fucking accomplishment. No, I'm not. I'm not taking Jason: Gosh dang Brian, I mean that's 30 days of 4 years. Bryan: up for him. What I'm getting at is I don't know if maybe they got to him. Jason: Dude, I'm going into my no disrespect to you, but I'm going in my review that we do in February and I'm going to be like, Hey, the first 30 days of the year, I was kicking ass. Was I not? Bryan: So what I'm getting at is the first 30 days he did what he was. So what I'm what I'm saying is, no, maybe Israel didn't Jason: Like the doge and all that, yeah. Like he was gonna come in there and clean this shit up. Bryan: have anything to do with his election, but Jason: I Bryan: they got to him after the election because he was able to do something for at least 30 days. Jason: Why would they get to him in this, in the he's done after this four years, they got Bryan: I don't know. Jason: him back. They got him back in. Bryan: Okay. I'm not arguing with you. don't fucking know. You know, it's quite possible that again, the way, the way I Jason: I think he... Bryan: see the Trump family enriching themselves now, you Jason: Yeah. Bryan: know, and Kushner buying this shit and Trump Jr. and his fucking Bitcoin and all this other shit. don't trust any of it. You know, it just looks shady as fuck to me. Jason: all the way around. Bryan: You know, for something I thought, don't get me wrong. I never thought the family was completely on up and up. I always say anybody that has that kind of money has done something to get it. And it's not, you know, no. Jason: yeah. Nobody's hands clean with that kind of money. Bryan: So I'm not naive to that. Having said that, I thought they were different. just, you know, at least he was, I don't fucking know, dude. I just know we don't have what we thought we was getting. know that. Jason: I know my trust is way out the window with anybody, man. I don't trust anybody anymore. I trust you and that's about it. Bryan: You can't. Well, look at that fucking shit you showed with Kim Jong Un and you. I mean, how Jason: Yeah. Bryan: do you trust anything? You made that in five minutes. You know? Jason: Yeah, yeah, here I'll show it again for that was the first one, but Bryan: that was on the first episode. Jason: yeah. Well shit, where's my picture at? Bryan: Yeah, they are. That's when y'all went on vacation together. Jason: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We were, we're good friends. We hang out. I mean, he's probably going to get, he's probably going to report and say, I don't know this fool. Bryan: Hold on. Now this is my question though. You six foot, what? One, two? All Jason: Yeah, six one. Bryan: right, Kim Young on he's six foot. Jason: He's standing on a. Bryan: Okay. Yeah. You can't look shorter than you. He's the leader of the fucking North America. Me and all the Korea. Jason: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You, you see it's waist up. So they had him standing on a platform because yeah, that's disrespectful. I told Kim, I can't, I can't Bryan: Gotcha. Okay. Yeah. All right. Yeah. That makes sense. Jason: squat down like that anymore. My knees and my back and shit. So you're going to have to stand on something. He wanted me. Bryan: So if you yeah, if you won't look more like a man next to me you got to stand on a box, you know, just Jason: He wanted me to bend the knee and I was like, these knees don't bend no more, homie. Bryan: Alright Jason you got anything else Jason: No. Bryan: Well, everyone thanks for joining us tonight has been our pleasure spending time with you until next time This is the sense and senseless podcast. I'm Brian He's Jason: I'm Jason. Bryan: Jason peace Jason: Peace.