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Are The Packers Cooked? Why Bears should beat them, easily · Da Windy City Sports Podcast

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's back!
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[SPEAKER_00]: Welcome to the undercitter podcast, presented by fan-sided.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That man is Alex Chichiro back from a bachelor trip with his buddies.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm kind of Davis.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm a little under a weather so forgive me if I hack.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Speaking of which, right on cue.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We have the bears traveling to lambo.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, I was going to give up on the spread later, but they're favored on the road.
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[SPEAKER_01]: with a backup quarterback.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but pal, capacitors, this is getting, I mean, we are living.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Outside of what's happening in this country, but when it comes to barest time, we're gonna go to the beach.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If you ignore everything except for Chicago sports.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And right now, only on Chicago sports.
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[SPEAKER_02]: What a time to be alive.
0:47
[SPEAKER_02]: What a time to be alive.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What a time to be alive.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So wait, we have to go through the rapture.
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[SPEAKER_00]: For us to get to the point of our teams are looking with.
0:57
[SPEAKER_00]: I know Cub's fans, the Cub's loss.
0:59
[SPEAKER_00]: You still made it to the playoffs, all right?
1:01
[SPEAKER_02]: This is a, this is a White Sox podcast.
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[SPEAKER_00]: White Sox.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Welcome to Wendy City, a White Sox podcast.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Ha ha ha ha ha.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Sox could take it today.
1:13
[SPEAKER_00]: Watch Caleb Wilson, last night, good things.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, we, we got canors back.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The Blackhawks managed to win a game and it came against the blues, which helps we got young Connor doing his thing right like there are things in Chicago where we're not on the wait forever list.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It may not be it may not be titles compared to the socks in the bears are in the running but there's an upside looking around the city when it comes to our sports team and we deserve nice things here in Chicago.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, we do need kind of a dirty get healthy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We do
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[SPEAKER_02]: But it's on the horizon.
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[SPEAKER_00]: On the horizon bears Lambo Tyson Bayjan Jordan love.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right, that's what we're here to talk about.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're talking about just looking at it right now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Maji, we're recording this on Thursday, the 8th at 237.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The bears, of course, have K-Lip out, Gork, Kyla Gordon, who returned.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They do have one roster spot, open with Braxton Jones, going to the IR.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It'll be interesting if it is used for Kyla Gordon, Noah Suelle, or Shemar Turner, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Sooner or later, it seems like,
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[SPEAKER_00]: All three of those guys will be returning to the team as they slow walked rightfully so I did you pillow you know why and this is one of the things that I was talking about Alex when I thought me and you did the post game show last week you know why because we didn't talk about the ability no we talked about them on the show but it was because they didn't talk about them on the game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right that was the part where it was.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that was where it was like, yo, I don't remember thinking something weird on that left side.
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[SPEAKER_00]: As it has been at times.
3:01
[SPEAKER_00]: Braxton's been better than Price Braxton, hope he heals up.
3:04
[SPEAKER_00]: But Theo Bennett held down that left side tackle position alongside the Hall of Fame in Joltoni.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it looked well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The run game was buzzing Alex after, and this was even after.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He had coach Ben Johnson came out and addressed it and said, that isch was a grigious.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
3:28
[SPEAKER_02]: Regis, fumble.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Hit him with the egregious.
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[SPEAKER_02]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And he knows that and he knows that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was true because it was a situation where the ball was not tucked enough and it shouldn't have been knocked out by a guy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I won't say he's glass in it, but it wasn't like a full-long peanut punch.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's what I mean.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It was not a minute or so again.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Minnesota game.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's rainy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Nailed it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We're not going to hold that against you, Deondrae Swift.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And we said that post one.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We did say that post game.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's just one.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Agreed.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Agreed.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You can't do that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You can't do that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Looking at just some of the injuries right now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Of course, he's going to play down on Rights Questionable, Joe Thunney's questionable.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Caleb's out, Anthony Johnson, Jr. is on the IR.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You got Lucas Fennez's questionable, save me on Williams's on the IR.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If I'd say why it is questionable, Anthony Belton is questionable and Jack Burton is questionable also.
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[SPEAKER_02]: the bears won Anthony Belton to play because I feel like the past several times I've watched the Packers Anthony Belton is all over the tape for all the wrong reasons.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And this is all the wrong reasons.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I have not watched a ton of Packers football, you know, like when they've been in that slot with the bears aren't playing, you know, I've dipped in hearing there, but whoo, it's been tough sled for Anthony Belton for some time.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe he's improved.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Can't speak to that, but I feel like every
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[SPEAKER_02]: beat or beat or penalty or something.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, let's just dip into what in the world, what in the world can it after a quarter of a season for the first time in possibly human history?
5:11
[SPEAKER_02]: Don't know if this is true or not, but it feels like it must be true.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The bears being two and a half point favorites at Lambo with the backup quarterback.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, like, what is going on and they've earned every bit of it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They've earned every bit of it because as you mentioned, okay, Tyson Beijing was not perfect.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Truth be told, I did not watch all of that football gamehouse kind of dipping in an out from the pool It has kind of mentioned I was on the back bachelor party and every time I would dip in I'd be like Oh bad Tyson Beijing play and then you know everyone so I'd be like, oh, okay Solid Tyson Beijing play so so the deandre is so a fun ball and there's like oh yes, but then here comes Kalmanungai And Kalmanungai is unbelievable so it We're really seeing the depth of this office and the amount of their skill players
6:00
[SPEAKER_02]: The next man up mentality, every team says next man up, only a few can really mean it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And the bears have set themselves up in a way and props to Ryan Polls, props to Ben Johnson, props to the personnel departments in the coaching stacks.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Props to the players for actually stepping up.
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[SPEAKER_02]: All of them have created this program where the next man up is real.
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[SPEAKER_02]: When DeAndre Swift has an egregious fumble,
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[SPEAKER_02]: wonderful.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Tyson, you know, Caleb Williams goes down, Tyson Bayesian goes down, case keenum, likes it up, Tyson Bayesian comes back, still gets the win.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The defense, I'm raising my hand up.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The much maligned defense myself included, I had so many doubts about this.
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[SPEAKER_02]: defense.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I said it probably 15 times on this podcast.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The bears are going to have to score that score and record because the defense is going to give up 40 points a game.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Defense is lights out and it's not just
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, the jets aren't the most prolific offense in the world, but they're not terrible.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They had been incredibly efficient leading up to this game.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And to limit them to the amount of plays that they limited, the jets to is unreal.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And again, the Vikings game that was in the rain with Carson once, there are some caveats.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But GA has continued to show his ability to dial up exotic pressures.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's continued to show ways to confuse good quarterback.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So Jalen Hertz is Jalen Hertz looks like Super Bowl MVP Jalen Hertz lately.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, but Jalen Hertz ain't Gino Smith, you know Jalen Hertz ain't Carson Wentz.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Jalen Hertz was
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[SPEAKER_02]: at a time like the best quarterback in the end of the NFL.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And D.A.
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[SPEAKER_02]: was confusing him.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He was confusing him with the pressure packages and the fake pressure packages he was building.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And the guys are delivering.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, they're getting hats to the football defense is unbelievable.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And now we're talking about like the bears.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The bears got something here.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The bears got something here and they will, if they're favored in an environment like this, there are probably a few games where they will not be favored.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like against the bills, they might not be favored.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But you got to you got to feel good about the bear's chances to win every game they play including on the road in Lambo field with a backup quarterback.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The fact that I'm saying that that like, yeah, the bear should win and I feel good about the bear's winning that football game.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It just goes to show how far this team has come.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And honestly, it's wonderful because it's a lot nicer talking about a team like this that it is talking about a team that is finding new and exciting ways to lose every week.
9:00
[SPEAKER_02]: So I just want to revel in that moment a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You should you should revel in that you have as you just mentioned the bear is a favorite by two and a half at Lambo.
9:09
[SPEAKER_00]: They had the Falcons, the Patriots, and then the Seahawks.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's when you start to worry a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't mean really worried because one thing I think we do know at this point, this is a good season can change.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, a injury could change.
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[SPEAKER_00]: A bad offensive to a couple bad offensive while I'm going down, the sweat can hurt and you know I'm not the sweat effect guy, but still guys have to watch him.
9:37
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, you brought up the defense, particularly the first half, the guy that flash was Dio of Dango, Dio flash last week, a Dio has come back and then he's looked closer to the player that they signed and showed so does that shackish about, um, and I'm not saying it to this one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just saying you get the GM speak, um, but Dio's out there, he said an edge and he's pressured to quarterback.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's getting pressures and that's one thing that you definitely need, uh, he has three
10:06
[SPEAKER_00]: I think they get them a crazy D.T.
10:08
[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I haven't seen?
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[SPEAKER_00]: My africana.
10:13
[SPEAKER_00]: I need to have a Jeanne Weber.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Pre-season Wallstar.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't well just check out my africana.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, here's the thing is the regular season now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's not the pre-season, Ganesh.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But the thing, sort of thing is the defense as you were saying is playing a lot better.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I made my apology last week, Alex is I do my apology tours, I gave case key to him, his apologies the week before.
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[SPEAKER_00]: My last week's apology was to Ben Johnson slash Dennis Allen and the coach him up thing and it goes loose to what you were just saying and I want to I want to parlay that into that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, they are coaching them up and one thing about this bears coaching staff is development and that's something we haven't really seen since part of Loveys.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, yeah.
11:01
[SPEAKER_00]: Part of Loveys teamwork is love.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We can find them a DB or two.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like you know, like you so like we haven't really seen.
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[SPEAKER_00]: development consistent guys backups being able and the time let's say that I might say this hasn't happened throughout even the bad coaches quote unquote I mean systematically where this isn't just oh damn that backup tackle D.T.
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[SPEAKER_00]: or that backup where Robinson Harris you don't say like what you would have a one off none of the lines
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, seem to be coached well enough in the players of coach well enough that when the guy goes down, there's not a precipitous drop in play to where you see it and you have to change your offensive defense and that's a credit to one to the players, but like you said,
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like you said, but a credit to this coaching staff and Ben Johnson for a symbol in these guys and coming down with this is what we're going to do because that's part of this culture part of this culture seems to be you're going to be getting educated while you're up on their us you know I'm saying and that's what you see where.
12:05
[SPEAKER_00]: them talking about a field been in it playing out of balance and he needs to lower his posture and use his hands more.
12:14
[SPEAKER_00]: I saw I believe Sean Hammond wrote that in the trip was right in about that in the trip.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But you see, you used to hear that, you know what I'm saying, but you would never
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[SPEAKER_00]: where you would usually see the same mistakes on why that player sometimes isn't the player that you want to be consistently.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What you see now is it seems like the players are taking to it, but also it's how the instruction is probably being given.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I want to give that props to this coaching staff because it has been Johnson's coaching staff.
12:45
[SPEAKER_00]: And of course, outside of a couple
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's been just, but yeah, that's the thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, think about this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're talking about a Packers team.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're also a Packers team that's probably going to click sooner or later.
13:00
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, you catch them in a good time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: My comparison still isn't close to practice, what hasn't practiced.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Let me say that close.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Keep to be practicing next week.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, he hasn't been close yet to practicing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, that's going to fuse them with something.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If he hits the ground, when it, like if he hits the ground, when it, that's going to be more opportunities for the offense.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But you look at Tyson Bay to take it on the Jordan Love, who was right now, it's eighth in yards in NFL.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's top for seven, and that's with over slightly over a thousand yard passing yards, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: A thousand forty one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He has ATD's top for seven.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's tied for 15th in receptions with three receptions and his QBR is 52.9 next 20 if and that's when he really gets bad is with that QBR.
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[SPEAKER_00]: to where it's she kind of shows you where that office isn't office and but also with the domestic incident that took place with allegedly whatever with Josh Jacobs that's really where the hole is when you think about also why they brought in Josh Jacobs was to develop some physicality when it came to that run game and they really haven't been able to do that with him being out with his
14:08
[SPEAKER_00]: So that's really going to benefit the bears when we're talking about this defense and what they've been doing recently as far as playing the rumbet or but really stop in the past in a lot of ways.
14:18
[SPEAKER_02]: Here's why the bears win and I think once again cover easily we've been doing good we've picked the bears to cover a bunch and cover they have.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The bears.
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[SPEAKER_02]: first in the NFL with 785 rush yards.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Packers last in the NFL with 230 to pass yards.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They're barely over 50 yards of game rushing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They cannot get that ground game going.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And the packers have just struggled.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, we know this.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If you can't control the trenches, you can't control the ground.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It makes things really hard.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This is like football 101 stuff.
15:00
[SPEAKER_02]: This is everybody on every team, every fan base says run the damn ball.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They cannot run the damn ball.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They cannot run the damn ball.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Martian Lloyd, my guy fight on Martian Lloyd has not been the answer.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They have a roster of other guys, Chris Brooks, who have been in and out injured and also in and out ineffective.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And it has made that team one dimensional in a bad way, and they're, I mean, they got obliterated by the Falcons and Michael Penex.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Now that was Michael Penex's return.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There was a lot of hype.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There was all the hoopla before that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The Falcons were hapless and they just eaked past.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Again, the hapless Buccaneers who are starting a rookie quarterback, like their bucks are like throwing anything at the wall to try and make it happen.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Packers just barely make it past them.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean,
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[SPEAKER_02]: Truly, what time are we in Kenneth where the the packers the packers look completely lost it see I think you know bears fans are like I've seen this on Reddit.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I've seen this on Reddit, which is pretty funny like bears fans want to beat the packers But not beat the packers so badly that it gets Leflare fired because Leflare is doing such a bad job right now
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[SPEAKER_02]: What's the right amount of points to beat the Packers by?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Because again, it is hapless.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They can't run the football.
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[SPEAKER_02]: La Flur seems completely unable to write this ship.
16:36
[SPEAKER_02]: And it's like the bears like space jammed the Packers during that wildcard game.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They like space jam to more now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The bears look set up to be the dynasty, find a ways to win, doing it all, look great, and the packers.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Look a lot like the bears that at least I grew up watching.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The crazy part, yeah, it's our good.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, no, no, no.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The crazy part of this, and something that you just alluded to.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think Ben Johnson is going to mess around and get me out of the floor and find a season or season in the half earlier than what he would have if the bears were going at the same rate they usually go at.
17:14
[SPEAKER_00]: Like even if the bridge got a good coach and then there's regression this season.
17:18
[SPEAKER_00]: But seeing the guy that the bear is a guy and you're supposed to have a guy that's offensive guy and the bear is a little top at the bears hit coach is like punk in him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like that makes it even worse for Green Bay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: where it's like, it's one thing that the bears have beaten us, but the head coach is kind of playing in your face, right?
17:37
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, you mentioned the run game in the bears leading the league and running in that the pack are last.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Mr. Crazy thing too, the Vikings are like 16th and lines are like 20.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I want to say it again.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The Lions are 20th in rushing right now, all right?
17:54
[SPEAKER_00]: With one of the most dynamic rushes in the league, they're 20th.
17:58
[SPEAKER_00]: We got their run game here because we got their mind.
18:01
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, because Ben Johnson is scheming.
18:05
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, we saw it.
18:05
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, we've talked about it so much.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, they're running lanes and the things that Ben Johnson is able to do,
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[SPEAKER_02]: in all phases of the run game.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's not just like, oh, inside Zones, the bread and butter.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, I mean, the horizontal stuff, the power running stuff.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's coming at you with so many different run concepts and they all hit.
18:25
[SPEAKER_02]: And again, I just want to drill that down like so that we talk, you know,
18:30
[SPEAKER_02]: This game in particular, the bears run the ball so well, and the packers run the ball so poorly.
18:35
[SPEAKER_02]: It's like, yeah, I don't care if it's Tyson Bayesian.
18:37
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't care if it's KSK, no, I don't care if it's KL Williams.
18:39
[SPEAKER_02]: That alone is such a huge discrepancy that you could see another dominant, like the amount of plays at the bear's ran, what was it like 89 to 35 or something against the jets?
18:53
[SPEAKER_02]: Like it could be that type of performance again, just because of these two teams are on the football.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It could be, it definitely could be, it's just a nation, though, to see that we're at this point.
19:06
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, dog, I quarterback I heard.
19:08
[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I'm saying, like I'm at one point, there was a question about man, is it, we've been prior to this season, all right?
19:14
[SPEAKER_00]: We said over an extended amount of time, if Caleb is out, that can really harm this season.
19:20
[SPEAKER_00]: And that's with us all believe in Tyson Beijing is better than 500, you know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like right, I think most of us think he's 650, he can pop up to 700, over six, get five to six games, do something like that, but this is not in my case,
19:38
[SPEAKER_00]: This is not knowing that the object acrylic effect wasn't going to be as damning as it seemed at the end of last season.
19:45
[SPEAKER_00]: This is the people that talked about what is going to happen with DJ Moore being gone.
19:50
[SPEAKER_00]: And still you see that there's weapons on weapons going on in bed Johnson is using them properly.
19:56
[SPEAKER_00]: You can use some of them even more.
19:59
[SPEAKER_00]: I just won't want to just enjoy it.
20:01
[SPEAKER_00]: Like I think sometimes you're so you're so fast to get to the end.
20:05
[SPEAKER_00]: that you don't enjoy the journey to get there.
20:08
[SPEAKER_00]: And just, dogs, Alex and I have been talking and coming up with ways to talk about bad bears football.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's say we did weed sugarcoded it, but still trying to come up with ways to inform and entertain.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And like now it's like sweet dream it.
20:25
[SPEAKER_00]: Like it's just, we finally got through to them.
20:28
[SPEAKER_00]: And the thing is, it's usually BS on the other side because the flaws are always flowing.
20:34
[SPEAKER_00]: even when when that he was good, there was still flaws that you were shining that you were worried about.
20:39
[SPEAKER_00]: And then you said a fix in those flaws, we realized the stuff that he did wasn't even supposed to be an able to be sustained.
20:46
[SPEAKER_02]: He Augustus silence and finding the kicker wasn't actually the issue.
20:49
[SPEAKER_02]: That part.
20:50
[SPEAKER_00]: That part.
20:51
[SPEAKER_00]: That part right there, right?
20:52
[SPEAKER_00]: The whole kicker BS that you went in the can.
20:55
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, that's good.
20:57
[SPEAKER_00]: What you really need it, um, the hope, the e-book, e-books was set up to fail, but the e-books was also e-books isn't at this point.
21:03
[SPEAKER_00]: Head coach material.
21:04
[SPEAKER_00]: And I say he can't develop it.
21:05
[SPEAKER_02]: The assistant head coach defense material.
21:08
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
21:09
[SPEAKER_02]: I didn't even know if it was a title, assistant head coach defense.
21:13
[SPEAKER_00]: And look, with the micoparsus rate, if we just may not see got a raw deal in Dallas, let's do it.
21:17
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, she's just a true, she got a raw deal.
21:19
[SPEAKER_00]: He got a raw deal.
21:20
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, but to look at,
21:22
[SPEAKER_00]: having someone that seems like a generational coach.
21:25
[SPEAKER_00]: And I know I talk about this a lot, but I think we need to look at it through this lens, having someone who truly could be a generational coach here, that even if some bear friends or Mike Dicka guys, and Dicka had a flare, but Dicka also was a special team's coach.
21:40
[SPEAKER_00]: Of course he was a tight end, but he's the side of the body he coached before becoming a head coach with special teams and Dallas, right?
21:47
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, to have a guy like he's more that's more like John Harball in with the giants formula that about small ravens that's what he was for the Eagles.
21:55
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, but having a guy that is a stoop on one of the more important sides of the ball and actually the most important side of the ball when it comes to maintaining a consistency because if it's a defensive guy is going to lose office coordinator.
22:22
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, teams got to find the next McVay.
22:24
[SPEAKER_02]: They got to find the next shanahan.
22:26
[SPEAKER_02]: Everybody tries.
22:27
[SPEAKER_02]: If you do it, right?
22:28
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, the bear's tried that with like with nagging, you know?
22:31
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
22:32
[SPEAKER_02]: Not only did they do that, I think it's going to get to the point where people are going to be like, you got to find the next Ben Johnson.
22:39
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
22:40
[SPEAKER_02]: You got to find the next McVay.
22:41
[SPEAKER_02]: Next shanahan.
22:42
[SPEAKER_02]: Next Ben Johnson, because I mean, he's showing that.
22:46
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, he's not only the offensive,
22:50
[SPEAKER_02]: He's also like psycho parenthesis complimentary.
22:54
[SPEAKER_02]: He's also great in front of the room.
22:57
[SPEAKER_02]: Something that, you know, we didn't know.
22:58
[SPEAKER_02]: We didn't know.
22:59
[SPEAKER_02]: We're like, you guys only being a coordinator.
23:00
[SPEAKER_02]: How's he going to be in front of the whole team?
23:02
[SPEAKER_02]: I was going to be great point.
23:03
[SPEAKER_02]: He's like, he, it, those locker room videos are great.
23:07
[SPEAKER_02]: You can show.
23:07
[SPEAKER_02]: He's got command of that team.
23:09
[SPEAKER_02]: He's, um, man, it's just good time.
23:15
[SPEAKER_02]: It's good, how, when is the last time people have been this excited?
23:18
[SPEAKER_02]: This confident heading into a game at last.
23:22
[SPEAKER_00]: I've been a minute, even though bears fans could be crazy in general and be confident with a team that sucks.
23:26
[SPEAKER_00]: Also, with rivalry games, the bears could be banned beat the the packers and vice versa, like that's the thing with rivalry games and having familiarity with one another, where once you can be having a pass, you see what Duke North Carolina all the time.
23:39
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's see if it can be having an awful season or a mid-season.
23:42
[SPEAKER_00]: The other thing can be going for national championship and the other team that's maximum.
23:46
[SPEAKER_00]: So it wouldn't be crazy for the Packers to win.
23:49
[SPEAKER_00]: Also, the Packers still have crazy talent on Etsy.
23:52
[SPEAKER_00]: Listen, guess who's healthy this part of the year?
23:54
[SPEAKER_00]: Christian Watson.
23:55
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm in play and will.
23:57
[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I'm saying?
23:57
[SPEAKER_02]: Christian Watson has been dynamite.
23:59
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, usually Christian Watson is out.
24:01
[SPEAKER_00]: Golden's, I think Golden Duflashes a couple of games so far this season, but you talk about this defense that the Bears have right now.
24:10
[SPEAKER_00]: And also the fact that some of the pressure that the defense of line is getting, and we kind of talk about this somewhat, there's some cover sex coming in, like those DBs are sticking, you know what I'm saying?
24:20
[SPEAKER_00]: Like there's, and I mean, in the negative sense that they're covering sex, because last year they wouldn't even got there.
24:25
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, you might.
24:26
[SPEAKER_02]: four seconds to throw the ball for all of you talking about this.
24:30
[SPEAKER_02]: These guys can't cover for four seconds.
24:32
[SPEAKER_00]: And it may not be a situation where they have the great performance like bird and the timely interceptions or whatever the nationwide right had going on can't be fired.
24:44
[SPEAKER_00]: I meant to say when I say bird.
24:46
[SPEAKER_00]: But Jaylin and Ty Reak are doing good enough.
24:49
[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I'm saying?
24:50
[SPEAKER_00]: Dylan Thineman is bald.
24:51
[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
24:52
[SPEAKER_00]: Like,
24:53
[SPEAKER_00]: Bill, Bill, don't think of him as out there about saying, yeah, great point.
24:57
[SPEAKER_00]: Malik Mohamed, young rookie, you can't use a rookie.
25:00
[SPEAKER_00]: Malik Mohamed's plan, Devon Bush flashed last week.
25:03
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I don't understand.
25:04
[SPEAKER_00]: We've waited to see Devon Bush flash.
25:07
[SPEAKER_00]: The defense is jelly.
25:08
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, and that's the thing it get having a really good defensive coordinator.
25:12
[SPEAKER_00]: The defense is jelly, and that travels, and I think that's imperative of how they're going to be able to perhaps stop the offense of the packers.
25:20
[SPEAKER_00]: If the packers can't run the ball and become more one-dimensional, it's going to probably play more to the bear's hands.
25:24
[SPEAKER_00]: And I said that the packers, the score is not going to be like last week's score, because the packers got weapons and they got a quarterback that has a deep arm, which doesn't like throwing it on a clean platform.
25:35
[SPEAKER_00]: You like to do it off his back foot like we've seen here and then green Bay from separate quarterbacks.
25:40
[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, definitely I know, I think the only game I leased away for the bears was the Eagles game, but I thought the bears had a fighting chance to win that game.
25:48
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm definitely mainly leaning more towards the bears with what I see is really as more definitely have to do with the defense of play, but it's just the consistency of the quarterback room.
25:56
[SPEAKER_00]: And that's with types of Bayesian almost through easily three and a such as last week like that.
26:01
[SPEAKER_00]: Now the free play when I'm not counted.
26:03
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm happy he took the free play.
26:05
[SPEAKER_02]: But outside of that like he was he was there a free play that was not a free play than it was being picked.
26:12
[SPEAKER_00]: It was a pick, but the sense it was a free play, it didn't matter.
26:15
[SPEAKER_00]: That one doesn't count.
26:16
[SPEAKER_00]: That one doesn't count.
26:17
[SPEAKER_00]: You take those.
26:18
[SPEAKER_00]: You don't count it.
26:18
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, brother.
26:19
[SPEAKER_00]: I'll do that.
26:20
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
26:20
[SPEAKER_02]: That's good.
26:21
[SPEAKER_02]: If you challenge it.
26:22
[SPEAKER_00]: Sure, no.
26:22
[SPEAKER_00]: That there was a false neutral from infraction.
26:25
[SPEAKER_02]: If you look for the right, you see the flags.
26:28
[SPEAKER_00]: You're like, all right, sweet.
26:30
[SPEAKER_00]: Let her have a put.
26:31
[SPEAKER_00]: that there needs to be, I don't want to say come to Christ's moment, but there needs to be a heart to heart discussion with, and this is between Ben Johnson, Ancissive Agent, with what we need to stick to for you, like there's some throws that may be
26:49
[SPEAKER_00]: either the anticipatory part.
26:51
[SPEAKER_00]: We got to get out a little earlier and hopefully that receivers there to make up for the lack of zip that definitely an arm that Kale has, but Kale's team has more zip than what Tyson has on the ball.
27:04
[SPEAKER_00]: And so there's some things you, I don't say you can't do, but it's how you do it.
27:09
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, it has to be accelerated.
27:10
[SPEAKER_02]: If Tyson's going to be the starter, while Caleb's out, which clearly he is, I'll say there are some things you can't do that I'll flee flicker touchdown stuff that we've seen like those the Luther Burton touchdown that is on highlight real forever can't do that.
27:25
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you can't have that playing your playbook for Tyson Bayer.
27:28
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
27:28
[SPEAKER_02]: So I will not be as nice as kind of Davis can the bears operate and create an offense that Tyson Bayer can execute and win football games.
27:36
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, obviously like they've done it many times now.
27:49
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, it's not a knock on him and it's like even with the bear is not trading him like mind you if someone really wanted to come for him, they would have made you offer to them if they really wanted them like that.
28:01
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
28:01
[SPEAKER_02]: You'd be gone.
28:02
[SPEAKER_00]: If somebody came to you, I won't even get crazy with it.
28:06
[SPEAKER_00]: It was like I gave you a three they would have traded him.
28:09
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, they would have traded them.
28:12
[SPEAKER_00]: Believe you me, they would have figured it out.
28:14
[SPEAKER_00]: They would be like, all right, we got to get another guy, case you can be, but they got as high as the three.
28:20
[SPEAKER_00]: Tyson Bayesian would be on another team.
28:22
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, and again, it's not a knock on him because how many guys are trading for the backups and using third round is, you know, saying no, whatever, but it would have been some situation.
28:31
[SPEAKER_00]: So I think the last guy to got a decent deal, they couldn't know.
28:34
[SPEAKER_01]: We count the JJ in the curty deal, I was at a fifth.
28:37
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's potential.
28:39
[SPEAKER_00]: No, it's also he's the first rounder when he hasn't played.
28:43
[SPEAKER_00]: So that that's more that I what I think I can do with, you know, I'm saying like I think, because one look they think about what they're looking at now and their minds Jackson dart may never be right, right, they were coming.
28:55
[SPEAKER_00]: They're having a real discussion and in the vein of what they got out of Jackson dart.
28:59
[SPEAKER_00]: some arm strength even though we know it's hard for MacArthur to have accuracy and go to the left.
29:04
[SPEAKER_00]: But athleticism too.
29:05
[SPEAKER_00]: And that's why they're looking at, okay, we got a guy that they play in the same vein.
29:10
[SPEAKER_00]: So if it's going to be them, do we'll get out in the future JJ and Jackson Darr, the office doesn't really have to change that much because they're physically kind of the same guy.
29:19
[SPEAKER_00]: to a degree or whatsoever.
29:21
[SPEAKER_00]: But just looking at it usually, you don't get that something like a third for a player that hasn't been out on the field as much or whatever.
29:30
[SPEAKER_00]: Because I mean, even right now, what does JJ have?
29:34
[SPEAKER_00]: JJ's probably right around the same amount of starts.
29:36
[SPEAKER_00]: The Tyson had if that, maybe JJ has a couple more.
29:39
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't remember how many starts, Tyson is saying.
29:41
[SPEAKER_00]: That go, because technically, he didn't start last week.
29:46
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, he started as a RR receiver, but that wing goes to case canom because case canom started at quarterback for that first snap.
29:56
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it does.
29:56
[SPEAKER_00]: Check it out.
29:57
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it is.
29:58
[SPEAKER_00]: You go up after the show, go to go check it out.
30:01
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, it goes now like on some like I think like football perspective, they have started the game.
30:06
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he
30:15
[SPEAKER_02]: That was being.
30:16
[SPEAKER_02]: Then was mad.
30:17
[SPEAKER_02]: That was stuff, man.
30:19
[SPEAKER_02]: Then was upset that people had predicted Tyson Betcher was going to be the start.
30:22
[SPEAKER_00]: And so he was like, all right, I'll show you a method of doing that.
30:27
[SPEAKER_00]: So that's what happened.
30:27
[SPEAKER_00]: Like he was, he was in Joshua, triad.
30:29
[SPEAKER_02]: So K, it's key to not the win for that game.
30:32
[SPEAKER_00]: On the books I believe case can yes case can't have got that name right if I was Tyson I'd be pissed a I'm sure he's happy got the reps like that's the thing and we know who played in that game so I'm sure of course everyone it's as your back up because you're right you want to be able to say look look look look look look but you don't have to like hey agents can you remind them that I actually have an
31:01
[SPEAKER_02]: So what did you have case key to my look at pro football reference to and oh Nice work case What have I got I got the bears winning handily.
31:15
[SPEAKER_02]: I think the offense will probably do about the same I'll keep it at 24 because I think that is a nice number I do not believe in this Packers offense one ayota.
31:26
[SPEAKER_02]: I am gonna say the Packers get
31:28
[SPEAKER_02]: 13 points.
31:31
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, 24 13.
31:33
[SPEAKER_02]: I am feeling the bears oats.
31:36
[SPEAKER_02]: If that is a I'm feeling I'm picking up with the bears are throwing down.
31:43
[SPEAKER_02]: That sounds a little bit nicer than I'm feeling the bears oats.
31:46
[UNKNOWN]: All right.
31:49
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm trying to figure this out.
31:51
[SPEAKER_00]: So that would be I'm going to go with the pack 19.
31:56
[SPEAKER_00]: and the bears about 27.
31:59
[SPEAKER_00]: So I think the pack may have like three field goals in a touchdown and then another field goal maybe something to that degree.
32:06
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, so that'd be four field goals in the touchdown.
32:12
[SPEAKER_00]: I think I think they're going to be closer to 20 hours.
32:14
[SPEAKER_02]: I think they're a plan will the bears have shown
32:21
[SPEAKER_00]: And this is the NFL, but they have some of them that boss haven't been completed, but the bears have shown some miss hats when it comes to deep balls.
32:30
[SPEAKER_02]: Sometimes there's been some turnover worthy play.
32:32
[SPEAKER_02]: They've been gone even like little bears for sure.
32:35
[SPEAKER_00]: Like Garrett Wilson was open on a play that Jino missed that would have been a touchdown last week.
32:41
[SPEAKER_00]: And that's, and again, that happens, but now there have been some deep bombs where it was like whoa, how to hell that that take place even happened last week so yeah that I just I still think they're susceptible to the backside being exploited so that's why a team like Green Bay would have quarterback like that arm and the receivers that they have it's isn't craft healthy like they still got some guys out there.
33:06
[SPEAKER_00]: That's not.
33:06
[SPEAKER_00]: is you know so I don't know and also hopefully and I know this is bad me saying hopefully some of these NFC North teams will get some of that fire in their loins to try to come at our head coach for disrespecting them in the way because it's not even fun if you all don't want to play.
33:25
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, it's not fun when they quit.
33:29
[SPEAKER_02]: It's not fun like that.
33:30
[SPEAKER_02]: So hopefully unlike
33:39
[SPEAKER_00]: the damn Eagles who just, I don't even know what was going on over and died.
33:44
[SPEAKER_00]: They should have been ready to attack the bears, or whatever, letting you know the dysfunction is going on with them, but hopefully the pack after the bears did them up twice towards the end of the last year, at the end of the season, adding the playoffs, hopefully the pack want to get some play, some get back, so it's fun kicking at ass.
34:03
[SPEAKER_00]: this Sunday in limbo.
34:05
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, not like some, like, I mean, I don't look, that's how crazy the guy Alex, we went through last year being a roller coaster, right?
34:12
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
34:13
[SPEAKER_00]: It ended on a high, we was on a high from the second, the, the third middle third quarter of the year.
34:20
[SPEAKER_00]: We were riding a high, right?
34:21
[SPEAKER_00]: Because we knew it was real by the end, right?
34:23
[SPEAKER_00]: It was looking like it was real.
34:26
[SPEAKER_00]: Office was still pitter-pitter in some times.
34:28
[SPEAKER_00]: To right now, we got back up
34:34
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sorry.
34:34
[SPEAKER_00]: It's been a long.
34:36
[SPEAKER_00]: It's been a long time.
34:37
[UNKNOWN]: Sorry.
34:38
[SPEAKER_00]: It's been a long time.
34:40
[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
34:41
[SPEAKER_00]: So Alex anything.
34:42
[SPEAKER_00]: You got extra plenty of things before we get out here.
34:45
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, yeah.
34:46
[SPEAKER_02]: I'll just share it.
34:47
[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, bachelor party was in Joshua Tree.
34:50
[SPEAKER_02]: Very briefly.
34:52
[SPEAKER_02]: What a very cool place, man.
34:54
[SPEAKER_02]: Joshua Tree National Park.
34:56
[SPEAKER_02]: I had never been there before.
34:59
[SPEAKER_02]: It is.
34:59
[SPEAKER_02]: There are parts of it that you're like on an alien planet.
35:02
[SPEAKER_02]: These joya cacti look very cool.
35:05
[SPEAKER_02]: They look very fuzzy.
35:07
[SPEAKER_02]: They look like they would be fun to touch.
35:09
[SPEAKER_02]: Do not touch the cactus, obviously.
35:12
[SPEAKER_02]: J trees.
35:14
[SPEAKER_02]: are weird fuzzy green rocket guys that are wild.
35:18
[SPEAKER_02]: And the stars were incredible.
35:19
[SPEAKER_02]: Man, we saw Saturn.
35:21
[SPEAKER_02]: Saturn, like closest, it's going to be to the Earth for some period of time.
35:26
[SPEAKER_02]: True.
35:27
[SPEAKER_02]: If he had a telescope, so we were able, like we did it.
35:29
[SPEAKER_02]: We're like, oh my god, that Saturn.
35:31
[SPEAKER_02]: We saw the rings and everything.
35:33
[SPEAKER_02]: It was way dope.
35:34
[SPEAKER_02]: I did my first sound bath.
35:37
[SPEAKER_02]: Number six day highly recommend sound bath.
35:41
[SPEAKER_02]: It was actually at times kind of overwhelming.
35:44
[SPEAKER_02]: I, you know, I was, I don't want to say skeptical.
35:48
[SPEAKER_02]: That's not the right word, but I didn't know what to expect of the sound bath.
35:51
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, are you cool?
35:51
[SPEAKER_02]: It was sound cool.
35:52
[SPEAKER_02]: It'll be cool.
35:53
[SPEAKER_02]: Man, we're in the stars.
35:54
[SPEAKER_02]: Cool sound bath.
35:54
[SPEAKER_02]: Whatever you want to do, buddy.
35:56
[SPEAKER_02]: You want to just sound bath great.
35:58
[SPEAKER_02]: It was intense, man.
36:00
[SPEAKER_02]: Soundbath intense.
36:02
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm a J-Tree hippie now.
36:03
[SPEAKER_02]: This is my new personality.
36:05
[SPEAKER_02]: I am eating nothing but granola for breakfast.
36:08
[SPEAKER_02]: So if you like national parks, you haven't been to Joshua Tree, national park yet.
36:12
[SPEAKER_02]: Highly recommend it was a great time.
36:14
[SPEAKER_00]: Had a friend who had a bad cell bath.
36:21
[SPEAKER_00]: So when you say that, that's when you say it was intense.
36:23
[SPEAKER_00]: That's what I was like, yeah, she was like, it just didn't.
36:26
[SPEAKER_00]: It was unnerving.
36:27
[SPEAKER_00]: She said it and it wasn't her first one, but she was like, it was it was a quite unnerving compared to once she had in the past.
36:34
[SPEAKER_00]: Bad for sting.
36:35
[SPEAKER_02]: Bad sound vibes.
36:40
[SPEAKER_00]: That's it for us here under center, we'll be back post game Sunday to talk about the bears victory in Lambo as we continue to kick our ass and take no names because nobody wants to smoke since Ben Johnson has been Johnson and across the NFL.
36:55
[SPEAKER_00]: That's it for us.
36:56
[SPEAKER_00]: We'll see you.