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Pacific Division Rankings for the 2025-2026 NHL Season · Banger Management - Fantasy Hockey Podcast

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Alright, you guys ready? Let's get it, Ernie.
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Babita Bound Bound banger management fantasy hockey
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podcast. Whoa, wow, I can already see
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that there's gonna be horrible. I had to, I had to extend my woo
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cause you were drinking. Water, I'm looking, I'm looking
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at these rankings. Oh my God, we're starting off
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hot. This is starting off way too
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spicy woo, by the way, realistically, because this is
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about to be quite the banter. Who's Oh my God, Jackie, I just
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saw your rankings. Yeah, yeah, we'll.
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Get I introduced us, we can. Start my ranking.
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What the hell did I do? I'm very happy with mine.
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Of course you are. Welcome one and all to Bangor
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hella buck in the previous episode.
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Exactly. If you haven't listened to the
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Central Division breakdown, go listen to that because we had a
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little spelling bee at the end. Yeah.
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Really, really exciting stuff. Is this the vision the most not
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on the same page we are? It very much.
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Seems like a lot and last episode.
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Crazy. Actually has some wild take so.
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I think you're the one with the wild takes here, yeah.
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I'm I'm surprised with the number six.
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Wild Jakey take at #8 but not number six I think as a wild
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Kevin take. Yeah, I didn't know it was gonna
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be so wild. And Minnesota.
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Well wait, that sounds like a movie alright we should get
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into. Yes, let's begin avec #8.
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Alright at #8 ignoring Shakey's French.
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French. We've got the San Jose Sharks.
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Last year they were #8 Josh and Kevin have them ranked #8 and
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cheeky and classic fashion decided to rank them #5 so
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notable players, Macklin, Celebrity, Will Smith, Tyler
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Toffoli, William Eckland, John Klingberg, Yaroslav Askerov.
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Last year their power play ranked 26th in the league.
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Jakey #5 really you think three teams in this division worse
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than San Jose so. Much I think that the know who I
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have right to 8:00 and 7:00, which we're gonna talk about
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later. I'm very confident that the
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sharks are actually gonna beat them out.
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Six is a question mark for me. It's mainly me being high on the
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Sharks as opposed to low on the team that I have ranked at six,
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which again we will get into. But for now let's just go over
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the sharks. Essentially they have what I
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think is going to be the kind of actually I saw this today that
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there are they took like a pool of players and they think that
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Sabrina is going to be the new phase of the league.
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That's crazy. Yeah, more so than Bedard.
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In fact. Gavin McKenna out got outvoted
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like outvoted Medard. Essentially, he ranked higher
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than Bedard for new face of the. League Angel.
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They're all ahead of Marty Natures.
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Yeah, like, like young guys like around like. 20 OK, that makes
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sense. They definitely up there.
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Yeah, he's, he's the man. But yeah, why I really like this
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team is because they they've got this power play that's going to
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shape up to be super, super good this year.
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I think Askerov is gonna have a very good year.
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They also have future Hall of Famer Carey Price waiting in the
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wings. So sad, really suits up.
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Yeah, yeah. And.
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I was like, I love Nashville for this.
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First Cyrus notice. Yes, seriously.
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And I actually, I think the Orlov acquisition is a pretty
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big deal. He's a really.
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Cool decor was awful He's. The only NHL defence.
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Yeah, we talked about like Chicago having maybe one of the
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worst decors because they were all very young.
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San Jose, probably. Once Upon A December you loved
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Mario Ferraro, and then it just decided to stop the.
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Picture on Yahoo that is the catalyst.
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Before he had a picture, he was the block master.
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Yeah. Exactly.
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It all went down the hill where we learned what he looks.
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Like yeah, once his disguise was revealed, his true identity.
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Yeah, yeah. So really, this is just a case
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in point of a talismanic player becoming an extremely elite NHL
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asset. Look, I I love celebrity
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probably more than the two of you guys do because you guys had
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a Thomas over him in the centres one the and I'm over it.
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It's fine. I put I put that there because I
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thought that's what the people wanted.
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Yeah. Anyways, anyways, I love
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Scalabrini as much as you guys, but there's literally no
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defenseman on this team and Askerov is still a rookie
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goalie. They're going to let in so many
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goals. There's no way that their young
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guys stepping up is going to outweigh how many goals this
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team is going to let in. That's that's the bottom line.
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I mean, I think they have a lot of exciting fantasy assets for
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offence. They have a lot of young
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offensive guys who are going to in real life improve and be
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really exciting in the future and then this year, but it's not
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going to be enough to outweigh how horrible they are at
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defence. So that's fair.
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Was it the highest drafted players going to be celebrating?
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Obviously I think he's a fringe, you know, Round 2.
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Round 2. Round 3.
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Yeah he's at that turn like in in our league we're no we did a
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mock draft or and 14 teams pick around pick 28 is probably where
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he's going to go last pick of the second round if he hits his
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ceiling this season next year he will be like a fringe first
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round pick yeah if he has a ceiling this season, which we
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know is probably 90 points could go higher yeah four shots on
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goal you. Think he's going to be worth
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where he gets taken this year? I think it's going to be.
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It's one of those. But I think a lot of things
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could go wrong. Though for sure, I think it's
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one of those cases where instead of him proving it and then
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moving up in the rankings, he's moving up in the rankings 1st
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and then gonna prove it. Not that he didn't have an
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amazing season last year, but if he's getting drafted early, like
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late second, early third this year, he hasn't proven that he's
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worth that yet. But everyone knows and assumes
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that he's going to be in again next year when if he takes that
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other step and he gets picked in the late first round, that's not
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going to prove that this year, but it's going to be one step
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bed of expectation. But when he's the next phase of
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the league, like Jake, he said, and he's just living up to all
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his expectations, there's no reason to think he won't keep
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improving. On this team, I see there's one
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line and I think the power play will be nice and I think that's
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pretty much it and that's why I have them so low.
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But I'm really excited to have Eckland and Toffoli on my
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fantasy teams if possible. Yeah, what about Will Smith?
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I like Will. Smith.
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I'm Lauren Will Smith. I just think there's nobody
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really around him. I think he's a little bit more 1
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dimensional for him. I think he's more
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one-dimensional on the power play.
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I think he can be like, you know, have some value, but it's
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not a guy that I'm honestly trying to have on my.
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PC so that. Makes it hard.
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Exactly. He's not gonna make it in too
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many lineups being a pussy. Yeah, I think pretty much to sum
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up the sharks, they're bright spots.
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Spots are gonna be very bright, but there's very few of them.
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I think Toffoli will be like a guy that's like going away later
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than he should and he's always a high volume shooter as well.
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Which you would you like to see? Excellent.
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I think has a lot of potential. I mean, he went to to your team
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Josh, at the end of the season and they really wanted and.
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Remind me? And then wait, were you forced
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to cut him? I forgot actually.
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Yeah, yeah. And then I then I pick him up.
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I forget. I don't know, I don't even think
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anyone picked him up, just right at the end of.
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The season I think England's gonna have a really great.
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Year I really like Eckland because I think he could be the
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Donato to Bidart. OK, enough to be a winger as
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opposed to Smith. I think Smith would be the one
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playing with celebrity if he was a winger because he also centre.
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They they have to be on separate lines.
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So Oakland is going to be stapled to celebrity as he
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continues to break out and Ethan is going to continue to break
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out as well. Now it's going to be great for
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them. And John Klingberg as a power
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play specialist. What do you guys think of that?
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Where do you compare? What do you put him in the ranks
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of other guys like that? Like a Tony D'Angelo, Shayne
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Gostisbehere, those guys like, where do you rank?
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Him. I rank him pretty high just
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because I feel like there's nobody behind him that can take
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a spot. Yeah, that's true.
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They signed him specifically for.
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That, yeah, specifically for that.
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You know, Gossip Bear has Nikishin behind them.
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Tony D'Angelo has, you know, Schaefer and also D'Angelo, just
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like, can't stay on the ice for whatever reason.
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Scoring on his. Own net, scoring on his own net
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or picking a fight with a teammate or something.
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But I think Klingberg honestly is like a veteran presence that
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probably balances out all the young guys on this power play
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and on this team. If you.
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The thing with Klingberg, though, is he has health issues
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too. Like he's.
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Yeah, and he'll get you negative back cats.
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He's. Little squishy but if he gets
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hurt like who's taking that spot?
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Honestly, I have no idea. No clue.
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Yeah, no, probably long pause to make us think about like that's
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the guys gonna run power play too.
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But like, I'm not thrilled about, yeah, about that.
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So. No, it's Klingberg until he gets
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injured. So.
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I can honestly see San Jose finishing like 7th and the team
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that I have, the team that I put forth, I honestly regret it
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immediately. Yeah, that's.
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A. Really.
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That's a really so. Well, listen, you never know.
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I've been right before about some things.
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Yeah, you've been not wrong. Sometimes, yeah.
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Anyways, sharks are gonna suck. I don't see anyone being worse
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than them. And he has them ranked at 5:00.
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I mean all the. I can't argue against the logic.
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That they don't have a bottom 6 that's going to keep goals out.
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They don't have a defensive course.
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It's gonna keep goals out and they're leaving their goal.
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Here. Just awful.
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But they're fun. Yeah, but they're awful, Yeah.
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Yeah, yeah, we'll see. I mean, maybe he is just that
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good and he can he can make the team that much better.
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Do you think is better than Bart?
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Let's see, I think he's better than like.
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Not fantasy, just like. Actually, I think so.
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Look at look at Crosby last year put up a point per game at an
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unreal season. In fact is the rest of team
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still sucked, they still finished. 7th There's a lot.
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There's unknowns here. That they had a better goal than
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Askerov. They'd better defence than San
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Jose. Yeah, better bonanza.
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Think I'll do Tristan Jarry. Agreed, but like I feel like the
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guys here are young and that's like.
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This. I'm not trashing the future of
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the team, I'm trashing this. Year.
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No, no, no. Just winner is 33 years old.
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Assets were bad, yeah, You know what I mean?
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It's like at least like Phillip Kurshev who was pretty decent
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last. Year and sometimes you're more.
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Unknown. Yeah.
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Yeah, Exactly. Exactly.
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Exactly. So that's it?
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I don't know. We'll see.
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Everything you said makes a lot of sense.
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I can't argue against it by any means, but fun for sure.
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For sure. And I want them to succeed,
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yeah. Can you spell Zach Ostapchuk?
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OHP 8. This is the only.
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One, Yeah, OK, you got. It this is the only one we're
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doing, we can't do this. Again, become a thing.
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No one's gonna wanna listen to us spelling.
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Seriously. Alright, OK, let's go to number.
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Should I let you do it? Spelling bee mustard.
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Numbers. At #7 We've got the Vancouver
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Canucks. Last year they were #5 this year
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Jake and Kevin have them seven and Josh has them at six.
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Notable players Quinn Hughes, Elias Pettersson, Thatcher
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Demko, Jake Debrusk, Connor Garland and Evander Kane.
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And last year their power play ranked 15th in the NHL.
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So who did I put below them? Oh yeah, no, I stand by that.
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This, this is I think this is a polarizing pick because the
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Canucks are a team that wants to compete.
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Yeah, right. Maybe they just for the chance
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that they suck what one of the many issues.
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But listen, there's there's Silver Linings that you can
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think of when you talk about the Vancouver Canucks like maybe
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Quinn Hughes, Demco maybe going into the season healthier than
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he was last season. Patterson, Patterson actually
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like we've seen Peterson be a second round pick for share
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value in fantasy leagues, right? Evander Kane.
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Yeah, hometown Evander Kane. Don't undersell him, but.
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The bionic man. See, I'm looking at this team
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and I I can't really say. I mean, Quinn Hughes is is a bit
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of a different story, but other than that, which is a big
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difference, are they that much better than the Sharks really?
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Do you do you guys find? I don't find.
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That's why I have the front. Lower, you know, do they?
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Yeah, they do. Everybody has better defence.
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Yeah, I guess. The Sharks defence is honestly
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atrocious. I don't think even even think
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Chicago's defence over the Sharks defence.
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So yeah, I'd say Vancouver definitely has a better defence.
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Quinn Hughes is just massive Demco.
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You know you got to show us respect.
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Lincoln also. Lincoln.
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Centred Lens gonna be like potential.
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He's a really highly touted prospect and he could become
13:08
that guy, but he's not that guy yet.
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He's still you're not that guy fell just yeah.
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So he's still not a lot. Exactly.
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So, so yeah, no, there's definitely some glaring things
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that are a lot better here. And then the offence, they just
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obviously of both teams, celebrities, my favorite
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offence. Offensive Player.
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But Peterson is my second favorite.
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More than Kiefer Sherwood. Actually, I can't leave him.
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Include. Sure, Yeah, sure.
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What's up Fingers Beast? So is the banger.
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I actually just what? He's banging everybody.
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What he did last year was just actually.
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Absurd. You know, you know what's funny?
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You know who was on? We were just in the Central
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Division. We spoke a lot about how
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Nashville last year versus two years ago, it's like they only
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added players and they get rid of keepers.
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Part with the. Government.
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Exactly. Say that Vancouver was good last
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year with him. Yeah.
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But maybe he's the Talisman we've been waiting for.
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All the real Talisman. Player.
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Quinn Hughes. Who?
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Yeah. Who?
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Yeah, I don't like this team at Peterson's gonna have to step up
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in like a big, big way if they're gonna do anything
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somewhat meaningful. And none of us believe that they
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will. Yeah, that's the truth.
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I mean, you're the highest on them.
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Super low on this next team, yeah.
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Yeah, it's so am I fair and. Honestly, I could.
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Now you know how it feels when we see you put Saint Louis at 2
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and no. This is crazier than that.
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What? Who I put at 4 is more realistic
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than you putting Winnipeg at 5:00.
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Yeah, fine, but not more realistic than me building Saint
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Louis it. Too.
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It's also more No, no, there's no.
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Way I think over what you get into it.
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OK at #6 we've got the Seattle crackin.
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Last year they were 7th, Jakey has them 8th, Josh has them 7th,
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and Kevin decided to Mosey along and put them at 4.
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Some notable players. I have some regrets, but.
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Some notable players. They've got Mattie Bonniers,
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Shane Wright, Vince Dunn, Brandon Montour, Joey Decord,
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Jared McCann. Their power play was ranked 23rd
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in the league. They are the epitome of a team
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with four second lines. Slash 22 point fives and two 3
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point fives. I have no idea what their plan
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is, what direction they're going, and they keep acquiring
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middle 6 forwards and I'm just not a fan.
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I do like Joey discord though. We're you Kevin?
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Yep. Cracking open a cold one when
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you made this. Something else but.
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What? No, no, it's this is enough.
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Could you possibly be? I read to be referred to
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anything, but it's the application OK.
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Nobody knows what it means. It's.
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Provocative. OK, listen, I hear you.
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I hear all your criticisms. I'm not going to say I disagree
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with most of them. But what I will say is they have
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depth. Yes, they have depth.
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One thing they have they have a good defensive core like their
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top 4 is is solid. Their goalie tandem is solid
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like joy. The joy the court is is a good
16:20
fellow group. Barrel was God awful last
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season, but the court, the court is good.
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They have a good defensive core and they have a lot of talent
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that they can put on the power play and in in their top.
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Like you said, they have a lot of second lines, but at a
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certain point. They don't have a single guy
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who's like I'm excited. I not even a guy I'm excited as
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a first liner. Obviously they have the
16:43
potential like veneers and right they both should be.
16:46
They haven't shown it yet, but who's the 1st liner on this team
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that you're like, yeah, that's a.
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First, listen, I regret putting them at 4, but I could put them
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at 5:00 and I feel like that's realistic given like they're
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better than San Jose. Yeah, they're better than
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Vancouver. Yeah, I'll give you.
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OK, so one team different. I think Vancouver could be
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better than them. I'm really low on them.
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OK, You put Vancouver at 7. I know you put Seattle.
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Seattle at 7, Vancouver at six. No, yeah, yeah.
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But yeah, no, I mean. Either way, I don't think it's
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crazy. I feel like this team was was
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really bad last year obviously. For various reasons, have any
17:19
sort of direction like the man, I don't know what they're doing
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and the moves they made the offseason.
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They just keep acquiring these middle 6 wingers.
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I don't know what their plan is. Yeah, but they, but they also do
17:28
have young guys that can take steps off like veneers, Shane
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Wright, like these guys, these guys could.
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I love Vince Dunn and Brandon Montour.
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I think yeah, very great. Like I said, done, monitored,
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decored great solid like back end and then but they have the
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potential but haven't shown it yet.
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And it's like Wright is still like only a year or two end.
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So he's he can still do it. I mean, there's obviously still
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do it too, but he's getting to the point where it's like, OK,
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let's see those. He had a really bad year last
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year, he really bad and right showed signs, but he still, you
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know, didn't have the best year. I'm not sold.
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I'm not as excited about these young guys as I am about some of
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the other young guys around the league.
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OK, you're telling me that they have a worse power plate than?
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They're probably ranked 23rd last year.
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I know you think would be better or worse this year.
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I think it'll be the same, they do the split of both power play
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units so they'll have done running one month to running the
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other. Honestly they should just load
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up on the first one and have done in Montour both on it but.
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Well, spoiler alert Latina you have ahead of them had the worst
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power play in the league. Yeah, the team, I have had them
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as young guys that actually think are going to take a step
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forward. Listen, I hear you.
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I just feel like at some point, you know, we have a lot of teams
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in this division that are like young trying to take a step
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forward, but not a lot of them do.
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And those teams that have, you know, I guess what I'll give you
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more experience. I think 4 was too high, but
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while I'll give you, I'll concede to you, the fact is that
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they seem like such a mid team that maybe 7 was too low.
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Maybe like I don't see them ever.
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Well, not ever, but they're not cracking 5 like that's they're
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not. Going hard.
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I think they could be 5. I think 4 was obviously
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ambitious, but. They're not good team, but
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they're also not the worst team, so I'll give you.
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That I don't think they're bad team.
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I just think they're just so unexciting.
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They are unexciting. And just not very good.
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They are unexciting, but what happens if after two weeks we
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see veneers like RIP it up and Shane right as well?
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Yeah, Jared McCann goes back. He's super underrated.
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He goes back to, you know, being a a prolific winger that you
19:33
want on your fantasy team. Like there's a lot of outs.
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It's possible, like maybe I would switch them from 7:00 to
19:40
6:00. I still still not high on them
19:41
at all though. I think if I had to redo my
19:43
rankings, I would put them at 5:00.
19:45
So yeah, that's that's my take. OK.
19:48
Yeah. Who do you want from this team
19:51
on on your fantasy team? I would like to take Shane right
19:54
because he was pretty good with depth last year and Jared McCann
19:58
is is honestly. Always.
19:59
He was on his team a few times, right?
20:01
Yeah. I picked him up and dropped
20:02
them. The best case for this team, I
20:06
think that they can kind of mix it up in the ones who kind of
20:10
show up and promise they can do a more consolidated top 6.
20:13
Chandler Stephenson should not be there ahead of Shane Wright
20:16
in all likelihood by the end of this.
20:17
Year I like Stevenson as a line 2 see.
20:20
I know, but right was supposed to be like, sick, right?
20:22
Yeah. He's just in years and right
20:24
should be there one and two. Yeah, yeah, been here is
20:25
exactly. And then I mean, I guess their
20:29
wingers aren't so bad. Schwarzkopf, like couple Coco
20:32
will actually was succeeding on Seattle after the trade
20:35
honestly. Though the only player I could
20:37
see myself taking on this team is decored.
20:39
I like him in my 0G. No interest for Mason Marchment
20:44
or Eberley or Schwartz like we saw Schwartz actually be like
20:47
low key valuable for. No, they're guys all pick up as
20:49
a stream here and there, but I'm never gonna.
20:51
Keep line 1P1. There's no PP one on Seattle.
20:56
Let's. Say they do a split power play
20:57
and it sucks. That's true.
20:59
That's what I mean, though. The best case is that they find
21:02
players to consolidate. But I don't think that's gonna
21:03
happen this year. I think this is gonna be like an
21:05
experimental year trying to get their guys to be better and
21:07
they're not really gonna be competing for much.
21:09
It's tough because you think you can't write off an entire team.
21:12
Someone's got to be fantasy relevant.
21:13
But some teams just spread the wealth so much that when there's
21:17
it's not a team like Dallas was so much wealth.
21:21
Anybody doing 20 minutes then whatever, like everybody
21:23
probably get around 17 minutes of.
21:25
Time read it evenly and they're not even that good of a team to
21:27
begin with. So I'm really not that
21:29
interested in, you know, give me Brandon Montour.
21:31
Every time he plays the Habs, he'll put up five points.
21:34
Other than that, I really for me, it's really just record.
21:37
I think he's a really good goalie and like you said,
21:39
there's bright spots are their defensemen and the fact that
21:42
they're just kind of solid at every line.
21:44
So I like that as a goal for a goalie.
21:46
Yeah, they're basically, Yeah, they're, they're a very, very,
21:49
very poor man's dollar. Yeah, exactly.
21:53
Like that said I. Like Kevin after losing one of
21:56
his best Dallas homeless. I never lose my house.
22:02
Exactly. Alright, let's talk about #5.
22:04
Which I love. #5 #5 We've got the Anaheim Ducks, last year
22:09
they rang #6 Kevin has them ranked six, Josh has them ranked
22:12
five, and Jake has them ranked four.
22:14
This doesn't surprise me at all. Notable players Leo Carlson,
22:18
Troy Terry, Mason, Mctavish, possibly Jackson Lacombe, former
22:22
forward Lukas Dostal and Cutter Gautier.
22:25
Last year they finished 32nd on the power play.
22:28
Wow. Well.
22:31
Yeah, they got the award for worst power play last year.
22:34
They don't do 1 unit. Oh, I forgot to mention Frank
22:37
for Toronto as well. Frank the tank, of course.
22:40
Yeah, and. Thank you for your friend think.
22:41
Yeah, so Jake, he's the highest on them, unsurprisingly.
22:45
You convinced me out of being as high on the sharks as I was, but
22:49
this one I'm extremely firm on. I would bet Kevin's house that
22:52
they that they squeeze. Will not let you off.
22:55
This year. Playoffs.
22:57
That's Are you more confident about Anaheim finishing fourth
23:00
or Winnipeg finishing fifth? More more confident about this.
23:06
Yeah, OK. Yeah, but I actually think there
23:09
are really, really good team on paper and they have a lot of a
23:13
lot of promise. These are a great top three
23:16
lines. Their defence is pretty decent.
23:18
This is a good defensive core. And then they have one.
23:21
I also forgot to mention Radko Gudas and Jacob Trouba.
23:24
For yeah, I think a lot of really solid guys.
23:29
Time, yeah. And.
23:31
Also he pimms more. Hmm.
23:32
I don't know if anybody in our audience knows this, but they
23:37
have this guy. Yeah.
23:39
But tell her early on power play too, for God knows what reason
23:43
will be power play. 1 And he actually, he's a defenseman, but
23:46
he used to be a forward. What's his name?
23:51
Spell Jackson Lacombe. Yeah, so he is was so good, one
23:58
of my best pickups last year. I loved having him and.
24:00
And then he dropped him, someone else picked him up, and then he
24:03
traded for him. Hello.
24:08
That sounds good. Sounds exactly like what
24:12
happened. Yeah.
24:14
So listen, I'm really happy to have a lot of players from this
24:19
team on my on my fantasy team to be on.
24:20
This is a very stacked left wing group and right wing and.
24:24
Christopher to Yeah. These are 9 guys who I think are
24:29
gonna be rostered everywhere. What I don't like about?
24:32
It in the deep league. I mean, all the guys on this
24:34
team except like Vetrano is that they all feel so
24:37
one-dimensional. That's fair.
24:38
Like no category coverage, but you're excited about the point.
24:42
Mctavish does, but he's going to be a future hub that'd.
24:46
Be great. But you're absolutely right.
24:49
I think Carlson's going to kind of have to take a step up in one
24:51
way or another. That's going to reflect in
24:53
fantasy. For I see Carlson being like his
24:56
prototype is going to be like Robert Thomas, but that's kind
24:59
of what I see like. Which is still decent.
25:01
Two shots on game and like you know he can hit 90 points that
25:04
when he has his best season. Yeah, it's the faceoffs, which
25:06
we're we're not thinking the right home.
25:07
Yeah, last year, but Cutter Gautier supposed to take a big
25:11
step forward and I would hopefully.
25:14
I don't know what to. Expect to happen.
25:15
Troy Terry, your guy, you. Love, I love me some Troy.
25:18
Terry and honestly, these defensemen, I think I'm honestly
25:22
cool with having everyone except for True Ellison.
25:25
No shade to Drew. What did he ever do to you?
25:27
Goodness, Lacombe, Truba Merger, and Menshikov could all be
25:32
relevant on your team, which is pretty fun.
25:34
That is cool because when it comes down to it, does Stall is
25:37
going to benefit from all this and less.
25:39
Miles like becomes relevant to Stalin.
25:44
I think the more likelihood he's gonna be the bonafide starter
25:46
and not one A1B like 1. And 100%.
25:49
Yeah, OK. But is it impossible that
25:50
Zellweger gets P1? I don't think.
25:52
It's it's not. It's not.
25:55
Another highly talented, highly touted prospect.
25:58
Are you guys comfortable taking Jackson Lacombe and the draft?
26:00
I don't worry. I never take like home because
26:02
first of all, this power play was asked last year, so I don't
26:05
know how much I'm getting out of that.
26:07
Yeah. Yeah, but he's like a target.
26:11
Like I prefer him over like a Klingberg.
26:14
Tony D'Angelo. Taken higher than where you're
26:18
comfortable taking him based on what it sounds like.
26:20
This really does look like A1A1B power play that well, Yeah, it's
26:25
and I I don't, I think that they're unlike Seattle, where I
26:28
I hope that they can consolidate and you know what their like
26:32
some guys end up being better. This seems too deep to to do
26:35
that. You know, Dallas, Dallas is just
26:38
a better version like they're way better.
26:40
So they could make an actual top power play and make it more
26:44
realistic. But this like I don't know which
26:46
power play I like better between.
26:47
These two Jackson Lacombe or Morgan Riley?
26:50
I take, I take Riley, I feel. Like I'm Morgan Riley.
26:54
Yeah, it's just safer. Rather Lacombe, just because
26:57
he's my boy and he used to be a former but more forward.
27:01
Morgan Riley's always been a defenseman and I think.
27:03
I really don't like Riley even though we think he gets back
27:06
power play one because of Martin's departure, I still he
27:10
just does nothing for. The money.
27:13
Riley's money, Yeah. He didn't get resigned.
27:16
Today, no, but he's he's paid to be the guy there.
27:18
Yeah, but look how that have worked for him last year.
27:21
But also, like, it's not like Lacombe has the great category
27:24
coverage either, right? Like he's one point 1.8 shots
27:27
less than a hit, 1.7 blocks. Like, that's not anything to
27:30
write home about at all, to be honest.
27:31
That's like numbers, except. I just think that could take a
27:35
step up Riley, We've seen his peak.
27:37
He's only downhill from here. OK, what about Neil Pionk?
27:41
Or Jackson Lacombe. Yeah.
27:42
I'm taking Lacombe I think. I think Pionk was a was a fluke
27:46
last. Year PB2, Haskin or or Lacombe.
27:49
Lacombe. Yeah, OK, Darnell Nurse.
27:52
I would take nurse probably just for.
27:54
The for the. Different.
27:56
Yeah. I love this team.
27:57
I'm super excited about them. I actually do things.
27:59
They're gonna make the playoffs. I'm pretty confident when I say
28:03
that they are not anywhere near. The.
28:07
Playoffs. With the hubs last year and it's
28:10
the exact same. Thing we made it like with the
28:12
last. Game of the season, I could see
28:14
them sneaking in the last game of the season, let's let's put
28:16
it that way, but I don't see them being anywhere near a
28:19
playoff lock. Yeah, this next team, do we
28:22
think that they could be a playoff team?
28:24
They could be. I think again this would be a
28:26
best of wild card. Team.
28:27
Who do you want on your team from Anaheim?
28:29
Fantasy team. Everybody I.
28:31
Really want to do this, I wanted good this last year and you
28:33
sniped him. I did my top 2.
28:35
What's my view again? I want dostal and I want gudas,
28:38
that's why I like the most. OK.
28:40
Are you interested in the forward or not really?
28:42
And it's like you said, all of them other than Mctavish.
28:45
Who knows what's going on with him though.
28:46
They're all just so one-dimensional.
28:48
They're all points guys who have no back hats, but they also
28:50
haven't proven the points yet. I'm not entirely sure where the
28:55
specifics of where each one gets drafted in our league, but who I
28:58
want let's just say in general Gautier, Mctavish.
29:04
You're gonna end up with all of them, Jackie.
29:06
I hope you know that. Toronto and then we're pretty
29:09
low on Grantland. Like we've discussed fading him
29:11
quite a bit was out of those 3, but I actually think it could be
29:13
pretty good. And if you had 60 points, 65
29:17
points out of 1/3 liner, that means your team is pretty darn
29:19
good. This team can score a lot of
29:21
goals. Don't know if it's going to be.
29:23
Powerful 65, I don't think you got 60 points is that?
29:26
Crazy to think though. I mean, it's not.
29:29
Like they would have to consolidate their lines on the
29:31
1st in 6 let's say, and also consolidate the power plays a
29:36
little more and he'd have to be involved in.
29:38
That yeah, yeah. I just don't know which guy from
29:41
this team is gonna get a lot of. That I think that's that's kind
29:44
of similar. It's similar to Seattle where
29:46
it's a lot of mouse to feed and a lot of very balanced lines,
29:49
except they're just a bit better.
29:50
So but the tough thing is, let's say, yeah, let's say you believe
29:54
in the Ducks, like what you do and I believe in them to a
29:56
certain extent. Who do you even choose as the
29:59
guy? Which is what you're saying,
30:00
right? Like, you know, that or you're
30:03
confident they're gonna take a step of someone on this team is
30:05
gonna be getting the points, but who?
30:06
They're spread out among three, I mean the top. 9 The The good
30:09
news. Is we gotta Could be Carlson, it
30:10
could be Terry, could be. Drafted late so you don't have
30:13
to like gamble. The opportunity cost is not
30:16
gonna be high when you have to make.
30:17
These guys are gonna end up on some team or other, and
30:19
whichever one pops off that they're not gonna get dropped.
30:21
So if you choose the wrong one, you're not.
30:23
For points, I want Leo Carlson. I feel like he's the guy that I
30:26
banked my house. Has proven he could be the
30:30
points leader on this team multiple years.
30:31
In absolutely. I just see Leo wasn't being the
30:34
most likely to be the centerpiece.
30:36
Yeah, you know what I mean. I'm not saying I want him on my
30:38
team, but I'm just saying I think he's most likely to have
30:40
the most points. Yeah, this year it's in my
30:43
opinion. Very, very thin.
30:44
Criteria gets the most points on this team, but that's just me.
30:47
I'm not. Taking your guys, this is a
30:50
very, very good team. It's definitely, it's the type
30:53
of team that like, I'm going to be honest, like you look at it
30:56
on paper, you're so excited and then after like 2 months you're
30:59
just like, what were we thinking?
31:01
Yeah, I can't say. Well, I don't think that's gonna
31:03
happen to me. Wash the The centres could not
31:07
take a step up. It's the defenseman.
31:10
We could be like they're old and and can defend.
31:13
I'm what I'm excited about the team.
31:15
I'm not as high on it this year as him, but I think they've got
31:17
a great future and they're gonna keep moving up.
31:19
There I agree to have a great. Future OK, let's go to the top
31:23
half of the division. All right, number. 4 and #4
31:26
we've got the Calgary Flames, last year they were #4 this year
31:30
Jake has them at six, Kevin at 5 and Josh at 4:00.
31:35
Leave her. Notable players Dustin Wolf,
31:39
Mackenzie Weeger, Nazim Kadri, Jonathan Huberdeau, Matt
31:42
Coronado, Zine Perek and last year their power play finished
31:45
at 19th in the league. I threw in some extra ones at
31:49
the end but really the three is Wolf weaker and Kadri.
31:53
Yeah, yeah, Kadri was great last year.
31:55
Yeah. He's really good.
31:56
He was. His shot volume is what honestly
31:58
keeps him look super fancy relevant.
32:01
Yeah, that's sickle where you jumped over the guy into that
32:02
spinner Rama. Yeah, yeah.
32:04
So. We are obviously we've if you
32:07
listen to our top 10 defensemen episodes were already high on.
32:09
Him now I get why in the discord.
32:14
It was about 20 minutes over here, no?
32:15
You. You was specifically you Kevin,
32:17
who said something about weaker that I will not repeat.
32:23
Go listen to the episode. But I understand why people are
32:28
like, oh, big Wicker fans, yeah, no figure is great.
32:36
And a Wolf obviously had an amazing year last year, should
32:39
have another amazing year this year, Yeah.
32:41
Yeah. Great.
32:42
Very, you know, where was he getting taken?
32:44
Middle, middle of the pack for goalies.
32:46
Could be a solid value guy. Do you think Farabee could be a
32:48
thing? I know you want him to be a
32:50
thing so much. Last year on our streamers you
32:53
were like. Guy, I really like this team.
32:56
I totally reranked this if I could go.
32:59
Back in time I would rank mine. I would put it lower if I put. 4
33:04
feels high, 6 feels low, 55 is probably the best spot.
33:07
Oh, alright, listen, I'll take it.
33:10
I think Kevin put them in a good spot.
33:11
I still. Hire I know Lisa Wigger water
33:14
put them. But I but I I would definitely
33:17
have go in hindsight, Sharks, Vancouver and Kraken below this
33:22
team looking a bit more into it. So where I think Calgary has a
33:28
real leg up this year is that Wolf is just an awesome goalie.
33:32
He's going to be super good and this is a decent enough defence.
33:36
Of course, sort of. I mean, with Rasmus Anderson,
33:38
who knows? Yeah, he's probably getting
33:40
treated. Yeah, and if he does and they
33:42
don't get anything in return, that actually creates a pretty
33:44
decent problem for them. He blocks a ton.
33:46
Definitely helps the. Yeah, exactly so.
33:49
I flipped them last year for Victor Hedman.
33:53
Actually the better one. Yeah, thank God Brick wasn't
33:57
that. The team is going to have a
33:59
point for game player necessarily, but they're.
34:00
Gonna have Jonathan Hooper. 100 point, Jonathan.
34:04
Where don't draft. Who's gonna who's gonna get the
34:07
most points on this team? Kaji.
34:10
It's got to be. Like 70.
34:12
Getting more than country, honestly.
34:13
Maybe Coronado? No, I didn't follow that money,
34:16
baby. Yeah.
34:17
I mean, that's why I put him on the list.
34:18
I like him as a, I wanted him as an honorable mention in our
34:22
breakouts, but he just missed the cut.
34:24
I think he might have been a bunch actually.
34:26
But you know, I like Coronado but just Kaji is going to be the
34:29
centre point of all the offence on the scene.
34:31
Look at this team and obviously Cadre is the best player, but
34:34
like, would you do you really rather this group of 12 forwards
34:37
over Seattle? I'd rather the defensemen.
34:41
I'm looking at, I just mentioned the forward rather than
34:43
defenseman. I'd rather defend the goalie.
34:45
OK. Forwards, I mean, I'm more
34:48
excited. There's The thing is there's no
34:50
one on Seattle that I'm like and on forward that I'm like, I
34:53
really want that guy on my team. I would take Kadri happily on my
34:57
team. Yeah.
34:58
But I guess, yeah, other than that, who am I looking?
35:00
At I like them more like actually significantly, but it's
35:03
it's not crazy of a take like I'm looking.
35:06
Like I said, I would put Calgary lower in In hindsight, yeah.
35:09
Not Seattle higher. Somebody has to take their spot.
35:13
Yeah, with the ducks up to make cheeky.
35:14
Happy the ducks that haven't proven anything yet.
35:16
Yeah, lest we forget that Sharon Govich was pretty sick two years
35:19
ago. Yeah, that's true.
35:20
He had some injury issues. Last year he was good, last year
35:22
before he got into yeah. Yeah, he's he's a bounce back
35:26
candidate for sure. And Connor Zarry is.
35:29
Really. Skilled player.
35:30
And Coronado. Me is Morgan Frost I think.
35:34
Yeah, I mean, he was good on Philly.
35:36
He was he was good in Philly. I think he has the opportunity
35:39
to be the two see here like they this team just like can't quit
35:41
back on. One of these guys we just listed
35:44
is gonna have a great year, I just don't know which one is
35:46
gonna be. Yeah, you can put your money on
35:49
whoever is on the 1st power play unit because that's the most
35:51
opportunity to get. Also something to note for
35:54
bangers is hitting machine. You're not getting much else.
35:59
We're getting a lot of hits from a forward be pure seed this
36:04
season. Or was he senator right wing
36:06
like last season? Because last year he was sending
36:08
right wing. So do you both have Calgary
36:12
higher than Anaheim? You do.
36:14
Do you stick to that? You think they're gonna finish
36:17
higher than? This year, I'm just worried
36:18
about Anaheim, like they're just not ready to take them.
36:21
I think I could see Anaheim finishing above Calgary
36:24
honestly. Yeah, and you just talked about
36:27
how the Seattle team is not crazy different than this
36:30
Calgary team. So is it so crazy that I had
36:32
them before instead of 6? Yes, really.
36:34
Yeah. Why is it so?
36:36
Crazy. You know what?
36:37
I guess the reason it may not be as crazy is I forgot how bad
36:41
this division. Is there's three things that
36:44
everybody else, honestly, I feel like if I had to choose one team
36:47
that we like that we already mentioned to finish four, I
36:51
think Vancouver has probably the the top end talent to like be a
36:54
team that makes it there. You had them seven.
36:56
I know. Because there's so much that can
36:57
go wrong, but like a team with a live person and Quinn Hughes,
37:00
like clicking, like I can see them finishing. 4th and it's
37:03
just awful. No wonder the top three teams
37:04
are just feasting on these. Should we move on to these top?
37:08
Three. Yeah, we should.
37:09
All right. #3. #3 We've got the LA Kings, last year they
37:14
finished second. Josh and Kevin have them ranked
37:16
3rd and Jake has them ranked 1st.
37:18
Closet. Yeah, notable players,
37:21
obviously. Kopitar, Adrian Kempe, Kevin
37:23
Fiala, Quinton Byfield, Darcy Kemper, Alex Laferriere.
37:27
Last year their power play was 27th in the league.
37:30
That's really bad. Yeah.
37:32
They gotta get QB on there. Yeah, that's me.
37:36
Second. Yeah.
37:38
He means Quinton Byfield. Yeah, this is a, this is just a
37:41
super good team and obviously they don't.
37:45
Have the kings. I've I've loved the.
37:48
Kids, we love them, but like better than the Oilers and
37:50
Vegas. Spoilers.
37:53
I I think that they're not as top heavy obviously.
37:59
I mean, last year the Kings finished higher than the Oilers
38:01
in the regular. Season, yeah, but the Oilers
38:03
were also like load management, load managing the whole season
38:06
like. Maybe missing that won't happen
38:07
again. That's not.
38:09
Once you get to this top three, I think anything's reasonable.
38:11
Yeah, and I think Vegas and Oilers have their sights set on
38:14
like the Stanley Cup, right? So I wouldn't be surprised if
38:16
they're sacrificing a little bit of the regular season to to get
38:19
there. What Audrey do it?
38:27
And this little brother, Andre Lee.
38:29
There's no way. No, I don't really.
38:30
I don't think they're related, but.
38:32
I was like, wait, did he get traded since we recorded the
38:37
Metropolitan Division? Andre and Anders, That's crazy.
38:40
No, So this is just a super deep, well-rounded team that I
38:46
think is gonna do well again. They've got an amazing, amazing
38:49
goalie and I just, you know, if one guy gets hurt here, like a
38:55
Fiala gets hurt, you know, not nearly as consequential as any
38:59
one of the big guys on Edmonton getting hurt, for instance.
39:02
I just think they're super deep, great IRL third line, less
39:06
excited for fantasy, for instance.
39:07
Like if you take Calgary's third line, I think Calgary's third
39:11
line has a better fantasy third line than the LA third line.
39:15
But an IRL third line? Like not even close.
39:17
He said the third line like 7 times.
39:20
Which one were you talking about?
39:22
Because this is just to say that this is a boring team for
39:24
fantasy. They were ranked so low for
39:26
their except for Kempe who we all like.
39:28
Fiala is decent and I think Byfield's pretty fun this year.
39:32
That is a. Breakout candidate, can he get
39:35
that power play one that's. A big question.
39:36
Yeah. So this is I think he gets it
39:37
this. Year, this is always.
39:40
I think they can both be on it. Good IRL team?
39:43
No cause not. Great base Kempe, Fiala, Kopitar
39:47
and a defenseman are the four. Lock in, in in In practice
39:51
recently they had no they're running 5 forwards.
39:54
Oh, really? Yeah.
39:54
OK. Is Brian Clark a forward now?
39:56
No, unfortunately not The last thing it's not.
39:59
Impossible. They're so misusing their young
40:02
defensemen. Clark should be power play 1.
40:06
Treated like it's just, it's crazy.
40:10
Clark for boring bar. Oh my God no the the the meme
40:14
would be they send Clark and then and Buffalo.
40:17
Buffalo Thompson. Yeah, exactly.
40:22
Alex talk for Clark. Yeah, they're like, what if we
40:26
just built a team of all defensive?
40:28
They're P1 is all all defensemen.
40:30
So I'm not excited for this team at all.
40:32
I just think that. They're you put them first in
40:34
division. Yeah, I know.
40:35
I just think they're good. But I don't want an excitingly.
40:37
Yeah, that's it. I think they're they're shut.
40:39
Down really hard. It's basically the Seattle
40:41
cracking. Yeah.
40:43
Easy squinting. Bike is Corey Corey Perry Is
40:46
Corey Perry's injury right? For like 6 to 8 weeks.
40:49
Like he belongs to the Kings. Yeah.
40:51
So they're gonna lose in this. Year for the.
40:54
Kings the finals loss. Exactly.
40:56
Who is the most likely to end up on your roster?
41:00
I think the most likely to end up on my.
41:02
Roster is because he's getting sniped by yeah.
41:05
By a league mate, No, it's definitely Andre Lee.
41:07
No, not Andrea Lee, but I think probably Darcy Kemper.
41:13
Yeah, no, you're not taking Glee that.
41:15
Early I'm not, but I think he's still the most likely to end up
41:17
on my. Team enough, you're not getting
41:18
any kings. This.
41:19
Year probably not I mean I don't like but I just think he's too 1
41:21
dimensional and he'll get you 10 face off wins and like one shot
41:24
a game and you know .7 just points yeah yeah Tempe, I think
41:30
obviously would probably be the guy that I would take he he's
41:32
like a if I was later in the third round I'd probably
41:35
consider him yeah. But where my draft slot is
41:38
probably not going to be there. Fiala is always kind of
41:41
interesting. But like, you don't, it's still
41:43
gamble too, right? So like, yeah, I'm not really
41:45
thrilled about that. Maybe by field, honestly.
41:47
Maybe by field with where he's going, yeah.
41:50
Yeah. How do you have room for Byfield
41:52
when you're already taking Cutter Gautier?
41:54
Mason, Mctavish Carlson. That's.
41:56
True, he's only. Yeah, I, I guess I'm just big on
42:01
the California teams. I, I seriously Kempe.
42:04
Kempe is the only one I think was gonna go on the top five
42:07
rounds of any deep league and then?
42:09
Temper might. Kemper as well Kemper.
42:12
I don't think Amber goes on the top five rounds.
42:14
Yeah, that's. Right.
42:15
I think be like around 7-8 kind of goalie.
42:17
Camper sounds like someone mispronouncing Kempe's name.
42:20
People also don't like temper. Like they doubt what he did last
42:23
year. They don't believe that he can
42:25
stay healthy for a full season and they just think that.
42:27
I saw people saying like they think LA offences worse this
42:30
year and that it's going to ruin Kemper.
42:31
You know who's most likely to be on my team and all actuality if
42:34
unless I reach on Byfield. Alex took.
42:37
Off fill the know. He's not gonna be on my team.
42:40
Yeah, he's not gonna be on any team.
42:42
Hello, I like Phil know every time someone has like oh, I
42:45
wish. I've I remember when filled an
42:46
old guy short hand points against me last year.
42:48
To be honest, not not thrilled about that.
42:50
He's one of those those guys who's gonna win you a week and
42:53
you're just like, for no good reason.
42:55
It's just something. He should not be rostered, but
42:57
he goes. Trevor Moore is gonna be.
42:59
In your office, Trevor Moore is good.
43:01
These are these are good players that are just like enough to
43:04
flip your fantasy matchup, but not enough to do anything to
43:06
actually impact. It makes no sense, but it makes
43:10
all the sense. I don't I don't interested in
43:11
cosmic or no. No.
43:14
OK, no. Well, that was quick if he could
43:16
Drew Doughty interested or. No.
43:18
OK, hold. Zero.
43:21
I don't think I want any of the defenseman.
43:23
I actually wanna find out where you can get by.
43:26
You can get power play one. I would be very interested in
43:28
him. He's got the skills, they just
43:31
refused to. Got it.
43:33
Sort of, but they didn't give him like enough you need.
43:35
To give him a long enough leash. You need to give a leash, yeah.
43:38
Quinton Byfield or Gabe Vilardi Byfield.
43:42
Vilardi Really. Yeah.
43:44
Wow. I love gay.
43:46
Village. Who are you, Kevin?
43:50
Game, game, game, game, game. Let's go.
43:53
OK. It's already party, baby.
43:56
March or so. By field.
43:58
OK. Byfield or Sherwood, OK.
44:03
That's just a very specific yeah, honestly probably sure
44:06
would cause he'll just win the cat for you every but Byfield.
44:09
That's obviously the more I could do more for you, but sure,
44:13
we'll just demolish hits. By Fielder Barzal.
44:17
That's tough, actually. I probably go by field.
44:21
I really don't like having Islanders on my team.
44:23
Yeah, let's go to the most exciting team in the NHL.
44:26
Alright at. #2 the Montreal. Canadiens the Western Conference
44:33
champs at #2 We've got the Edmonton Oilers.
44:37
Last year they were the 3rd and this is another consensus pick.
44:40
All three of us have them at #2 have.
44:42
First ever. Happened.
44:43
No, we had all three of us had Dallas at one in the Central
44:47
episode. But yeah, so all three of us
44:48
have them at 2. Notable players you may have
44:51
heard of Connor McDavid, Leon Dry, Seidel, Evan Bouchard, Zach
44:55
Hyman, Ryan Nugent, Hopkins, Stuart Skinner and Darnell Nurse
44:59
last year. Properly ranked #12 it should be
45:01
higher than that this year. This is a top five power play,
45:05
supposedly, Yeah, from what I've heard.
45:07
Yeah. Is there much to say if you're
45:09
not on this power play one, you're not the goalie and you're
45:12
not a bangers guy. You're not on my team.
45:16
Pretty much except for like Trent Frederick I guess.
45:23
Year 3 pick something if. You're draft spot is #4 Liter.
45:27
You're missing out on half the valuable guys on this team,
45:29
pretty much. Yeah, what what they've clearly
45:31
done to me is is you know, they've they've made it so that
45:37
dry, subtle and McDavid don't have to play on the same line
45:39
this. Is the number one to play on the
45:40
same? Exactly.
45:41
That's when they go over losing a game.
45:43
That's when they. Never.
45:45
Yeah, but even though sometimes they start on the same line
45:47
because they're just that good. But this to me looks like an
45:51
actual potential where you could have McDavid dry subtle nudge
45:55
actually sticking that way for the vast majority of the time
45:57
other than power play, of course, with a different sets of
46:00
wingers. These are good wingers now with
46:02
a lot of promise not proven, but Isaac Howard and Mats of what
46:05
we've spoken about them and. Our potential, yeah, they're
46:08
both good prospects. They were in our call, their
46:10
episode as decent candidates for that.
46:13
And then Manjani is an actual really decent NHL player.
46:16
Zach Hyman, when he comes back, put coals in Frederick.
46:19
Do you guys think of Hyman with that injury?
46:21
It's tough. First of all, I don't think it's
46:23
hits are going to be nearly what they were in the playoffs.
46:25
The flash in the pan. Yeah, it was crazy.
46:27
It was crazy. But that's just never been his
46:29
game. Nevertheless.
46:30
Like. Mcdavid's guys, there's no
46:31
timeline for him. Like I saw a quote from him
46:34
today, which essentially was saying I'm recovering well, but
46:38
my trainers are whatever. We're taking it in two week
46:40
chunks. That's what you said.
46:42
So right now we're this two week chunk is going well and
46:44
progressing well, but not going to be ready for start of the
46:47
season. That's scary to me.
46:49
You're taking it two week chunks.
46:50
That means that two weeks is definitely not the it's a couple
46:53
of those trunks at least. That could be a month or two.
46:56
Yeah, Yeah, it's tough. And I feel like we expected to
46:59
bounce back from Hyman after the disciplining last.
47:02
Season, last season and now he's got that big injury, not going
47:05
to be healthy to start the season.
47:06
He's gonna miss camp. How late are you waiting to
47:08
draft him? I haven't done.
47:10
Usually what I do before every draft is I'll look at all the
47:13
hot, big name injured guys and then I'll choose around where if
47:16
they're still available at that round, I'll take them.
47:18
So I haven't done that yet to prepare for the draft because I
47:20
just found out my draft position yesterday.
47:22
But. Hymen or Kiefer Sherwood?
47:26
I would take hymen. I'm willing like to bet on the
47:29
upside. Fact is when he does come back,
47:30
he's gonna be power play one with McDavid and Dryside.
47:32
I think people forget about that.
47:33
Because he was there last year though, and he didn't perform
47:36
and also he's going to be dealing with the ramifications
47:39
of this injury. For sure, but I think Sherwood's
47:42
a bit too low. Compared to what?
47:43
Potential is Hyman or Slough. Slough.
47:47
Hyman and Austin. That's good.
47:49
It was honestly, they might play the same amount of games.
47:50
He was Simmons. Injury, it's just starting the
47:53
year injuries, but. Yeah, I have a good one.
47:56
I think I might go Hyman over in a shoe.
47:57
Skin Heyman or Elers? Hyman.
48:00
You just don't want to earth at all.
48:01
I don't want Ellers at all. I guess I agree when it's when
48:04
push comes to shove I probably actually choose dealers because
48:07
of the injury tag next to his name.
48:09
But I get. It Hyman.
48:11
Yeah, so one thing that's worth mentioning is that Stuart
48:16
Skinner is a skinny legend. Stuart Skinnier haha.
48:21
Good one. Thanks.
48:23
He lost 25 lbs. Well, that's good.
48:25
He actually, yeah, he shaved his mustache.
48:33
That is super, super funny. But yeah, I saw this.
48:39
He lost 25 lbs from last season. It was 230 and now he's. 205
48:43
Good thing or bad thing? It's a very good thing for
48:45
Willie. OK, cool.
48:46
To have that, you know, mobility extra and to be carrying around
48:51
that much less weight actually makes a huge difference.
48:53
Yeah, but what if they just got a morbidly obese person in that
48:59
and they can I. Swear.
49:00
This is a conversation I had to deal with my whole entire life.
49:03
Even we'll just start that with me, just piss me off.
49:07
Here. Yeah, yeah.
49:10
So for those in in that camp, unfortunately this is this is
49:15
not the direction we want Stuart Skinner in.
49:17
But really if he can actually improve because he's the only
49:22
thing standing in this standing in the way of the seamen Stanley
49:25
Cup. I I know.
49:26
It's some would say it's the lack of like wingers on this
49:29
team as well, I would say. Well, now they have better
49:31
wingers. Though I mean Manjani and if
49:33
they could just Maddie Savoir. Battles Wingers.
49:36
Yeah, honestly though, and I and also like I'm like the biggest
49:39
goalie supporter there is. I don't think it's necessarily
49:43
his fault or whatever. It's just they're right there.
49:45
Yeah, they need to just get over that edge.
49:47
For somebody that's such a big goalie supporter, you turn so
49:49
quick on Jake Ottinger. I'm a real Pete Debore.
49:54
Yeah. It's just it's.
49:55
It's dropping super late in drafts.
49:57
He's like one of the last starting goals getting drafted.
49:59
And he's the goalie for Edmonton, who, everyone you
50:02
know, he's there for sure gonna be a top. 3 projections have
50:04
them splitting with Picard and I think that's why.
50:06
So like what do you guys think about that?
50:07
No, I. Don't.
50:07
I don't see that happening. Because Picard actually was
50:10
pretty. Was really good in the.
50:11
Playoffs. Like he actually really settled
50:13
the ship. Down really I have 0 concern
50:15
about that. What happens if they sign Carter
50:17
Hart? They just said they weren't
50:19
going to. I did not see that, but if they.
50:21
Did they would then I would definitely be OK, Definitely be
50:25
worried there. But they said they weren't going
50:26
to, you know? Because Carter hearts not.
50:27
He's not signing with Philly. So yeah.
50:29
Goalies on teams that split, I mean, can you remember the last
50:34
time a team that split during the year went into the playoffs
50:36
and won? Boston.
50:37
Well, they didn't win, right? Like, really?
50:39
Like, say, like Almark. And that was a great tandem.
50:42
Was amazing. Yeah, they got upset by.
50:44
Pandas, you can't. You need a guy who's gonna be
50:48
ready, and that means at least 50 games.
50:51
I would. Say Toronto last year won the
50:52
first round, splitting with Stolarz.
50:55
But no, I know. You mean, but there the issue
50:57
wasn't the goalie issue now as. Well, like even Bob, who's not
51:00
like a 65 game guy anymore, 60 game guy, he's just not.
51:04
He's too old to do that. Still playing 50.
51:06
And if you get that out of Skinner on the Lemmington team,
51:09
that should be amazing. I'm very happy with that.
51:12
Especially for where he's going. He could be a good 0G guy also
51:15
depending on how late he goes. Very good.
51:17
He should not be going to slide like, no matter what you think
51:19
about Stuart Skinner, like he's getting drafted later than a lot
51:23
of names that. Start you guys taking him where
51:24
he's going? Where he's going, Absolutely.
51:27
Yeah, yeah. The thing is he's gonna, he's
51:29
gonna get dropped before that people, someone gonna Scroll
51:30
down the list and be like, his name should not still be there.
51:33
Do you guys want Almark or Skinner?
51:37
Why? Why is it so easy?
51:38
On my. Seriously.
51:40
Really. Fair enough.
51:43
I don't know. I love Ottawa.
51:44
I have Ottawa super high but. Like Edmonton's gonna get more
51:47
wins, but all marks gonna like, I don't think that's a good one.
51:52
Skinner. It's gotta be Skinner.
51:54
But I really like the milk. I just think Milk is gonna get
51:57
picked a few rounds later, so for the value he's gonna be
51:59
better Scanner. OK, I don't think there's any.
52:03
Tandem John Gibson. I don't want any tandem goalie
52:06
over Skinner. Is Gibson starter on Detroit
52:10
starter for sure. Though Skinner, Bennington.
52:12
Bennington, wait, sorry. Skinner.
52:14
Bennington. Bennington.
52:16
I'd go Skinner over Bennington. Fair enough.
52:18
Skinner, Sorrows. Sorrows what?
52:23
Other sorrows over skin. Are you crazy?
52:25
Like I believe you even asked that.
52:27
I can't believe you. You guys are insane.
52:30
Cyrus is an incredible goalie on a terrible team, yeah.
52:33
Yeah, he's gonna lose like so many games.
52:36
It's gonna screw your percentages.
52:37
But The thing is also like, he's gonna start so many games too,
52:40
and. Yeah, but percentages are huge.
52:43
Your goals against average and you're safe percentage.
52:45
Your lack. Of service could realistically
52:46
get 500 more saves than Skinner just from like the amount of
52:50
shots he's facing and also this starts.
52:53
OG guy to at least be able to get wins.
52:55
Who gets more wins? Saros Orsina.
52:58
Skinner and like yeah, 10 less games probably and.
53:04
I would, I would, I would. I would think a.
53:05
Beer bet on that. I think he's getting like.
53:07
What was ranked higher? Know who gets more wins, Sorrows
53:10
or Skinner Done. Yeah, I would take that, but.
53:13
Alright, alright. I'll let you guys do it.
53:17
Are you checking out? Right, so we go to the.
53:21
Yeah, we should top #1. At #1 We've got the Vegas Golden
53:25
Knights. Last year they were #1 Josh and
53:29
Kevin have them ranked number one and Jake has them ranked #3.
53:32
Always. Notable players Jack Eichel,
53:35
Mitch Marner, Mark Stone, Shay Theodore, Tomash Hurdle, Pavel
53:40
de, Rafael V and Aiden Hill. Last year there probably was
53:43
ranked #2 and they decided to add Mitch Marner.
53:46
Maybe that'll bump them up to 1. That's a crazy.
53:51
That's this is a crazy. This is a team built to win the
53:53
Stanley. Cup once, yeah.
53:55
Do you know how you bumped down Toronto because they lost
53:58
Marner? Yeah.
53:59
How do you not? How do you also bump down Vegas
54:02
when they gained Marner? What were they finished last
54:06
year? One and you put them at.
54:08
Three, I thought LA 2. Second, yeah.
54:12
Explain yourself. In weren't expecting that worry.
54:17
He's like, so it's obviously not even that crazy, but it's just
54:20
funny cuz you bumped Toronto down so much with losing Marner
54:23
and you'd think adding Mariner would just make Vegas even
54:26
better. Yes, it's definitely, definitely
54:29
a fair thing to inquire about. So here's where I can just
54:36
simply say I think that LA and Oilers are going to be a better
54:41
team between them, and I know it with the Marner effect, it makes
54:45
a lot of sense. Don't forget they had to give up
54:47
Nick Watt to get him. OK, that's right.
54:49
Huge loss. Yeah, I just worked.
54:52
For awhile, one for one. Trade.
54:53
This is a very, very good team. Like I'm not, I'm not gonna take
54:57
it away from that, but so here's what I'm thinking.
55:01
If I put let's say LA 3rd and then Vegas 2IN Edmonton, would
55:06
you guys think that's crazy? No, and Edmonton finished below
55:10
LA last year, Yeah. So honestly, I don't even think
55:13
you know what I mean. I don't even think what you did
55:14
is crazy. Yeah, the three could be
55:16
interchangeable. It's just funny that.
55:17
Yeah, it definitely boosts them. It just makes them for sure, for
55:21
sure better team. I think that they're extremely
55:23
exciting and for fantasy it's incredible.
55:25
I think they have one of the best, like forward all four
55:30
lines, you know what I mean? Like with Dallas, is pretty.
55:33
Much. Them two.
55:35
Yeah. Yeah, of course.
55:38
Why do you think that Theodore is ranked so low among
55:42
defensemen when he's going to be the power play quarterback of
55:45
possibly the best power play in the league?
55:47
I think it's because people think that Noah Hanifin has a
55:49
chance of like if Theodore slips up, he'll he'll get there.
55:53
I don't see that. Happening.
55:54
I mean, I don't, I don't see that happening either.
55:56
I think Hennepin has it in him to be a P1 quarterback though.
56:01
Yeah, he hasn't been able to be that though in his.
56:03
Career This is the first time realizing that Jeremy Lozon was
56:05
on the Vegas Golden. Knights, yeah.
56:06
He still injured though, yeah. But honestly, look at this team
56:11
like this. Top line obviously is full of
56:14
studs. Dorothea, Eichel, Marner, second
56:17
line, Hurdle, Mark Stone, Barber, Chevy.
56:19
That's a very solid second line. Third line, William Carlson
56:23
centering your third line. I think that's pretty strong.
56:25
Riley Smith. Yeah, So on paper this is
56:29
obviously a way more exciting team than LA.
56:31
I just and I'd rather fantasy us from the team over LA.
56:34
I just think all is going to be a more of a shutdown team and be
56:37
better and then. Like I'll give you Kemper over
56:38
Eden Hill. Easy.
56:39
Yeah. Yeah, it's absolutely,
56:41
absolutely, I think and even Skinner Overhill for me this
56:44
year. I know that seems crazy.
56:46
I would give me. About you haven't seen how thin
56:49
he is. But we haven't counted for how
56:54
much swag he loses since he shaved.
56:56
Yeah, especially this is all on the mustache as mentioned
57:00
primary source heard it here. First Aiden Hill is one of the
57:02
most likely Vegas golden night stand up on my on my fantasy
57:04
team. Yeah, I think that makes sense
57:07
for me. I could see, like with how the
57:09
draft board's looking, I might end up with Mariners.
57:12
My second pick won't be upset about that.
57:14
Yeah. And honestly, if, if Theodores
57:16
dropping like what it seems like, then maybe I take a shot
57:19
at him. But really I can't.
57:20
You'd want him as your second defenseman on your fantasy team
57:22
basically. Yeah, exactly.
57:23
But I think the most likely out of all these guys is probably
57:26
Dora fav I like. Him a lot, even though he's has
57:30
a higher chance of not getting people on this season.
57:32
I just I the more I'm looking at it, the more I think that it's
57:36
either stone or hurdle. That or the odd man out over
57:38
door. FEV OK.
57:39
I think they really liked him as that trigger guy on the right
57:41
side. He's young, too.
57:43
He's young. They want to develop him.
57:45
I just, I think, I think he can get 30 to 40 goals and I know
57:52
that sounds insane. It's not that crazy.
57:55
If he gets that power play one spot, which I think.
57:57
He's the guy who put Winnipeg 50 saying that's not that crazy.
58:00
Think your thought process. They all are going to eat your
58:03
words. You'll see.
58:05
You got 35 goals last year. Kevin was that insane.
58:07
No, I just made a joke about you, but it was big.
58:11
OK that's actually insane. He got 30.
58:13
Five. Yeah, you got 35 rules.
58:14
Yeah, he's that's unreal. There's no way they take this
58:16
guy powerfully 1. Yeah, it's this is what he's
58:20
good. At But you can also say that he
58:21
got 35 goals because he was. Yeah, there's no, there's
58:24
definitely that's definitely a big risk if he loses power one
58:26
that's a lot of values losing. But if he gets to play on that
58:29
top line with Equal and Marner then even strength, that's
58:32
pretty sick. I want to give you some names
58:34
for you. Do it.
58:37
Give me like do you guys want 5 stones?
58:39
No, I never want Mark Stoneman rosters, do you?
58:42
Mark Glass. Do you actually, and I know that
58:46
we're not really in a position to do this in our main league
58:48
cause we're drafting 36 and 9:00, but do you want, if you
58:53
could start the ICO Marner, do like do you actually want to do
58:57
that? So let's say you're drafting
58:59
schedule is not lovable. They have 10 playoff games over
59:02
the course of three weeks. It's A33434, whatever.
59:04
So it's nothing to write home about, but not enough to
59:06
dissuade me. I don't see why not.
59:10
Like if you're Marner should be an early 2nd and Michael should
59:13
be a late 1st. So if you're at the right spot
59:16
at the table, like if your last pick of the first round, yeah,
59:19
that's where I would take that stack.
59:21
And I think that could be really fun.
59:22
It's going to be a points heavy team.
59:23
They Marner doesn't do much in terms of shots, so he's just got
59:27
a huge points guy. Eichel will shoot and get
59:30
points. I don't know the power players
59:32
doing #2 last year, yeah, it should stay as good.
59:35
If not, if not #1 so I think it's a really fun staff.
59:38
To have and the other question I would have, would you rather
59:41
Eichel Marner or JT Miller Panarin?
59:44
I'd go JT Panarin. I think it's just for our league
59:48
settings. Yeah, that what?
59:49
He yeah, with the the bankers and.
59:50
Stuff, Yeah, I think Michael Marner probably will get you
59:54
more points. Collectively.
59:55
Collectively fair. I don't.
59:57
I think that's a pretty reasonable.
59:58
It's interesting. I mean, we talked about it in
59:59
the past. I'm pretty sure this was on one
1:00:01
of the pod episodes. But like, we saw what Rantanen
1:00:04
and McKinnon did, like the two of them together, you know, we
1:00:09
saw, you know. What this is supposed?
1:00:10
To be this could be another one of those, you know, 2 the lead
1:00:13
guys playing together that just like ramp each other up to over
1:00:16
100 points, yeah. Yeah, but it would have always
1:00:20
been better to take Rantanen and McKinnon than Matthews and
1:00:25
Marner, you know what I mean? For sure.
1:00:27
Yeah, they were better. It did.
1:00:28
That's exactly, Yeah. So maybe Mariners just that guy
1:00:31
that's not as good as, but I don't know.
1:00:35
We'll see. I'm very excited about this team
1:00:37
for fantasy specific. They have so many good things.
1:00:40
And obviously I don't, I can't throw shade on you guys getting
1:00:44
ranking them #1. Favor to Foley, OK Dora Fev or
1:00:51
Dylan Holloway. I would agree.
1:00:56
Matt Marshall. Or fav.
1:00:58
OK, there we go. Good.
1:01:01
OK, now we're that's spicy. Alright, Alright, I found it.
1:01:05
Slough, Slough, Slough. Why?
1:01:08
I slap some bangers. Beast Dorf hasn't shown.
1:01:10
Up for sure, but if you're if slap is not getting twenty
1:01:14
goals. No what?
1:01:17
So you get 20 goals of coffee, Yeah. 20 points wise, I think
1:01:20
Dave is a pure scorer. I don't seem getting many
1:01:22
assists. I think he could get 20 goals.
1:01:25
Alright, let's do another view. Did not agree to this.
1:01:28
Yeah, thank you. Could get 20.
1:01:30
Goals. I think it's in his range of
1:01:31
outcomes. He hit 18 last year.
1:01:32
Oh yeah, he's getting twenty goals then I think.
1:01:35
I think Slap's gonna have a really monster year, especially
1:01:37
as a Bangers guy. You got twenty goals two years
1:01:39
ago? Absolutely.
1:01:45
It really goes down, obviously low.
1:01:46
I'm not taking anything but. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:01:50
But I I I really like Dorfen VI. Dora Fair.
1:01:53
Vilardi, Vilardi. Vilardi, Yeah.
1:01:55
OK, switch, switch. Yeah, alright, alright.
1:01:59
Marsha's home. Yeah.
1:02:02
Wow, OK, this is fun. No, actually.
1:02:04
With all these. Yeah, I agree.
1:02:06
Coffield, Coffield. Cairo.
1:02:10
Cairo. Honestly, that when I'm tempted
1:02:13
to go door fair. Yeah, that's a good line to stop
1:02:15
it at. Yeah, Hyman, Oh.
1:02:20
Yeah, alright, let's wrap it up. Marchenko.
1:02:23
Marchenko, thank you. Just just name every.
1:02:29
Single Listerine and. Only if you could spell it,
1:02:33
yeah. Never mind.
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