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Reddit Updates That Changed Everything | The Most Unexpected Stories · The conspiracy

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Speaker 1: Hey guys, I made something that reminds me of you
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Speaker 1: right here. Welcome back to the channel. You guys have
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Speaker 1: really seemed to like the Reddit Saturdays, so we're just
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Speaker 1: gonna continue to do that until you guys don't want
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Speaker 1: me to do that anymore. I do this on my
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Speaker 1: see more of this. But yeah, let me know what
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Speaker 1: else you guys want to see on Saturdays down below.
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Speaker 1: But today we're reading Reddit, so let's do it. My
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Speaker 1: sister thinks I'm not considering her feelings while proposing. Are
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Speaker 1: you proposing to your Sister? I'm confused. So I, 26 female,
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Speaker 1: am planning to propose to my boyfriend, 27 male. Oh wow, okay, yeah, okay.
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Speaker 1: That would have been crazy. Two sisters getting married and
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Speaker 1: they're lesbians. I know there's a book out there somewhere
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Speaker 1: with that shit. Anyway, we've been dating for four years
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Speaker 1: now and he's the most important person in my life.
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Speaker 1: We've discussed marriage. He has been very eager to propose
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Speaker 1: and has been saving money for some time, I think.
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Speaker 1: He's an artist and doesn't make quite as much, but
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Speaker 1: he's way too proud to let me pitch in. Well,
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Speaker 1: around last month, His mom had a surgery. I won't
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Speaker 1: go into details, but it cost his parents quite a lot.
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Speaker 1: She doesn't have insurance. I don't know why. He transferred
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Speaker 1: the money from his own savings as well, but didn't
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Speaker 1: tell me that. I even offered to help. Oh, I
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Speaker 1: hope she's okay. The mom, and that's very sweet of him.
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Speaker 1: That day, I found him crying in our room. Oh
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Speaker 1: my God, this is... keep reading. He told me all
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Speaker 1: this and kept on apologizing that the money he was
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Speaker 1: saving for the ring had to go into helping his
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Speaker 1: mom and now he can't propose on our anniversary as
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Speaker 1: he was planning to. It was so heartbreaking for me
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Speaker 1: to see him like this, to be honest. I don't
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Speaker 1: give a damn about that ring. I want to marry
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Speaker 1: this guy and I'd have done that in a courthouse
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Speaker 1: if he'd agree. I told him all that, but for him,
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Speaker 1: things like these are important. I actually kind of yelled
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Speaker 1: at him as well for worrying about the wrong reason. Lol.
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Speaker 1: Literally the sweetest man in the world. Just marry me,
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Speaker 1: you stupid, loving bastard. He told me to give him
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Speaker 1: some time as he wants to get me the best
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Speaker 1: he can. Well, I've decided to propose on our anniversary. Okay,
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Speaker 1: all right, take it into your own hands. I'm doing
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Speaker 1: it on a beach we used to visit a lot
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Speaker 1: as kids back in our hometown. I'm picking up the
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Speaker 1: ring next week. Here comes my sister, 28 female. So,
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Speaker 1: so far, because I always had to interrupt and give
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Speaker 1: my own input, you know, because I think it's fun
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Speaker 1: that way, okay? And I think it's sweet that you
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Speaker 1: want to propose to him too, and I don't think
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Speaker 1: he'll be upset or anything, but I... I also feel
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Speaker 1: like for him, he really wants to do this for you,
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Speaker 1: but you just want to marry him. I don't know.
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Speaker 1: I don't think anybody's in the wrong necessarily here, but
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Speaker 1: I could see him feeling like, oh, I wanted to
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Speaker 1: propose to you. And then I can totally see your
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Speaker 1: side being like, let's just get married. Like, I don't
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Speaker 1: even care, which is great too. I don't even know. Okay.
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Speaker 1: Let's just read. Let's just read what the sister has
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Speaker 1: to say. Cause that's not even what this story is about.
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Speaker 1: It's not about whether he's going to be upset or
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Speaker 1: she's going to be but whatever, it's about the sister,
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Speaker 1: so I need to show up. She had multiple failed
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Speaker 1: relationships and still lives with our parents. She saw me
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Speaker 1: looking at a ring photo when she was visiting me
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Speaker 1: this Christmas, so I told her I was planning to
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Speaker 1: propose at the beach. She went silent for a minute
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Speaker 1: and asked me if I was kidding her. Apparently she
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Speaker 1: caught her boyfriend of two years with someone else on
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Speaker 1: that same beach and hates that place now. I wasn't
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Speaker 1: aware of this. This breakup was in September and back
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Speaker 1: then she told me he was cheating and left her.
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Speaker 1: She now wants me to cancel this whole thing and
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Speaker 1: do it somewhere else. I admit when her relationship ended,
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Speaker 1: she took it pretty hardly. We all liked him and
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Speaker 1: my sister was convinced he was the one. So the
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Speaker 1: breakup was really bad for her. So your sister is
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Speaker 1: the main character in your story, according to her. Got it. Yes,
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Speaker 1: it sucks what happened to her, but I don't know
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Speaker 1: why that should affect my plans. Me and my boyfriend
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Speaker 1: visit that place every time we're there and it holds
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Speaker 1: some importance to both of us. She's now calling me
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Speaker 1: selfish and how I only want to hurt her by
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Speaker 1: reminding her of that trauma. Okay, okay. She then proceeds
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Speaker 1: to talk about my boyfriend and how he can't propose
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Speaker 1: and should be ashamed. Okay, so she's a mega bitch, okay. Okay,
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Speaker 1: so he, you know, just, taking care of his mother's
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Speaker 1: medical bills and saying that he feels horrible about that
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Speaker 1: and will save up enough to propose, but that makes
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Speaker 1: him a terrible person and he should be ashamed. Got it,
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Speaker 1: got it, locked it in. I shut that down quickly
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Speaker 1: and told her to drop that topic. The rest of
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Speaker 1: the day, she was moody and when she left, she
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Speaker 1: was crying and called me heartless. She's now texting me
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Speaker 1: and saying me getting engaged isn't important enough and I
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Speaker 1: need to change the destination. No. No. I need advice
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Speaker 1: on how to deal with her. Cut her out of
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Speaker 1: your life. Just kidding. Just kidding. Just sit her down.
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Speaker 1: You know, maybe give her a little bit of tea,
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Speaker 1: a little cookie she can dip it in or whatever.
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Speaker 1: Just say very calmly to her, bitch, this has nothing
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Speaker 1: to do with you. Am I really in the wrong here?
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Speaker 1: All I know is I'm not changing the location, whether
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Speaker 1: I'm wrong or not. I'm kind of guilty, but that's
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Speaker 1: just because we've been close since we were kids and
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Speaker 1: I don't really want to hurt her. Should I comfort
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Speaker 1: her or something? Or is she being unreasonable? Also, she
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Speaker 1: lives with our parents and we're close too, so cutting
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Speaker 1: her off isn't an option. Okay, I'm putting myself into
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Speaker 1: your shoes, okay? I picture them as being like, like
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Speaker 1: all white Nikes, really clean. I feel like you just
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Speaker 1: have your shit together. And I think you should... Sit
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Speaker 1: your sister down and maybe give her a little tea
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Speaker 1: and just walk along. No, okay, so yeah, if this
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Speaker 1: was my sister, whom I'm very close to, I have
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Speaker 1: lots of sisters, but let's just... I'll say my oldest sister,
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Speaker 1: and she was saying this, I would say, I appreciate
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Speaker 1: what you're saying, but I associate this with a lot
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Speaker 1: of really good memories and it kind of has nothing
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Speaker 1: to do with you. So I think you're being a
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Speaker 1: bit selfish here. Like you can experience what you experience,
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Speaker 1: but I also have my own experiences and this doesn't
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Speaker 1: involve you in any way, shape or form and will
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Speaker 1: not affect you or your life. at all. So I
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Speaker 1: think you just need to take a step back. Okay.
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Speaker 1: Look in the mirror. All right. Reflect a little bit
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Speaker 1: and maybe come back down to earth with us. Okay.
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Speaker 1: I just feel like she's being very selfish. Am I
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Speaker 1: being dumb? Let me know in the comments. I can
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Speaker 1: take some criticism. But let's read some other comments. Let's
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Speaker 1: hopefully validate myself here. Honestly, what I do in your
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Speaker 1: shoes depends on your sister and if this is standard
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Speaker 1: behavior for her. If she is long in the habit
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Speaker 1: of demanding you change things in your life that have
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Speaker 1: zero impact on her because of her overly sensitive sensibilities,
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Speaker 1: then I would tell her to get stuffed. That your
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Speaker 1: happiness has nothing to do with hers and proceed with
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Speaker 1: your plans. Negotiating with terrorists gets you nothing but increased demands. True.
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Speaker 1: I like that. I'm gonna use that. Writing that down.
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Speaker 1: Just kidding. I'm just, it wasn't actually, I was lying
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Speaker 1: to you. I'm sorry for faking writing on my hand. First,
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Speaker 1: it's you can't propose on the beach, then any beach,
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Speaker 1: then a wedding isn't fair because she is single and
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Speaker 1: it spirals nip it in the butt. I used to
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Speaker 1: think it was nip it in the butt. And then
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Speaker 1: Caleb corrected me and I was like, no way. And
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Speaker 1: he was right, which is not uncommon. On the other hand,
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Speaker 1: being cheated on is incredibly traumatic. If these demands are
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Speaker 1: entirely out of character, and the first time she's ever
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Speaker 1: done such a thing, I feel like it's not, then
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Speaker 1: I would perhaps consider moving it. Rather than the beach itself,
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Speaker 1: is there a spot or a bluff that overlooks it?
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Speaker 1: Or somewhere else that's important to you as a couple
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Speaker 1: you could use? And maybe a heart-to-heart is in order.
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Speaker 1: One where you acknowledge her pain, but also stand firm
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Speaker 1: on the fact that you are not being happy or
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Speaker 1: getting engaged at her. That you love her and are
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Speaker 1: very upset and disappointed that she is unsupportive and accusatory.
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Speaker 1: That's kind of what I'm leaning more towards. Not moving.
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Speaker 1: I don't think I wouldn't move. the place because that
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Speaker 1: is the place for you guys. You both associate it
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Speaker 1: with such wonderful memories. I don't think you should move it,
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Speaker 1: but I think the heart to heart is very well
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Speaker 1: needed if it hasn't already happened. And she kind of
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Speaker 1: needs a little bit of a reality check, but you
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Speaker 1: also need to be sensitive to the fact that that
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Speaker 1: happened to her. Cause that is traumatic. Absolutely. That's traumatic.
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Speaker 1: But for her to ask that of you is just,
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Speaker 1: it's worse. It's not been the cheating, but like it's
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Speaker 1: worse than you getting engaged at a place that you
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Speaker 1: associate with positivity. You know what I mean? Like, I
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Speaker 1: would never ask that of my sister if I got,
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Speaker 1: you know, this asshole dude, you know, cheated on me
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Speaker 1: and then broke up with me at the beach or
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Speaker 1: whatever happened exactly. I'd be like, it's a beach. It's
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Speaker 1: a public area. I don't give a fuck. I don't know,
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Speaker 1: you know, that's how I feel anyway. She's always been
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Speaker 1: good to me and my boyfriend. I think she sometimes
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Speaker 1: acts entitled and gets mad easily, but it's just silly
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Speaker 1: stuff and gets solved up in like a day or two.
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Speaker 1: And it's never been something serious. See, go to Starbucks,
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Speaker 1: then go to Target or whatever, or not Starbucks, but
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Speaker 1: your local coffee shop or whatever, you know. I really
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Speaker 1: can't move the location. I think at this point, the
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Speaker 1: best I can do is not talk about it to her.
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Speaker 1: She isn't even gonna be present there. And I definitely
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Speaker 1: won't be showing her any pics now that I know this.
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Speaker 1: So I don't see why she can't pretend that this
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Speaker 1: isn't happening. Yeah, another comment says, yeah, it sucks for her.
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Speaker 1: Good thing your engagement isn't about her. Yeah, that's just
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Speaker 1: where I'm coming from. It's like, shut up. I don't know,
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Speaker 1: shut up. I just can't stand people like this. They
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Speaker 1: just have to make everything about them. You were absolutely
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Speaker 1: the victim in a certain scenario, but you're not here.
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Speaker 1: You're just making it about you for like no reason.
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Speaker 1: What's next? You can't get a dog because she once
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Speaker 1: was bitten by one? Exactly. Like you've said in a
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Speaker 1: comment that she's acted entitled in the past as well,
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Speaker 1: this isn't your problem. She needs to deal with her
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Speaker 1: feelings about this as long as she's not causing problems
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Speaker 1: like telling your boyfriend, you don't have to worry about this. Oh,
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Speaker 1: I hope she doesn't do that. That would make her evil.
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Speaker 1: That would make her the devil if she does that.
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Speaker 1: Now I'm scared. I don't want to read anymore. Funny story,
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Speaker 1: she actually did demand that when our parents were planning
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Speaker 1: on adopting a dog, she did demand that when your
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Speaker 1: parents were So she's just a bitch. Okay. There's actually
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Speaker 1: an edit. So let's read that. The edit is on,
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Speaker 1: or there's three edits and they're all on the same day.
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Speaker 1: So let's read those. As some have mentioned in the
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Speaker 1: comments that this proposal might be emasculating to my boyfriend. Okay.
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Speaker 1: I kind of like touched on that at first. I
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Speaker 1: wouldn't say it's... necessarily emasculating. Well, it sometimes can be,
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Speaker 1: I guess, depending on the person. But I feel like
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Speaker 1: he's just been planning it so hard that it might
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Speaker 1: be like, oh. I wanted to do that, but whatever,
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Speaker 1: I'll keep reading. I know him, and if it was
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Speaker 1: actually something I'd be taking away from him, I'd obviously
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Speaker 1: never do it. That's fair. And that's kind of where
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Speaker 1: I'm like, everybody's so different, so I don't really know.
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Speaker 1: We wanted to be engaged on our five-year anniversary, and
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Speaker 1: I think that's what he was guilty about, plus some
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Speaker 1: stress about his mom's health. Thanks for the concern, but
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Speaker 1: I know he'll love it. Okay, amazing, we love that.
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Speaker 1: Edit two, thank you for the response, but I've seen
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Speaker 1: some comments accusing my boyfriend and his parents of being
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Speaker 1: immature and selfish. Wait, what? What is this left for?
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Speaker 1: can turn we just took this is completely false be
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Speaker 1: kind here please his parents are lovely people yes they're
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Speaker 1: financially struggling my boyfriend decided to help his parents i'd
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Speaker 1: have been mad if my boyfriend decided to spend his
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Speaker 1: money on a ring instead of helping his mom yeah
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Speaker 1: like you're marrying a really nice person. That's great. About
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Speaker 1: the insurance thing, I only know half of the story yet,
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Speaker 1: and it's not because his parents are immature. I'll be
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Speaker 1: talking to him about this later on, and he didn't
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Speaker 1: spend all his savings. His actual savings are separate from
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Speaker 1: the money he was saving for the ring. People just
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Speaker 1: love to just get right into people's lives and dissect it.
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Speaker 1: That's the internet for you, but I'm sorry I had
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Speaker 1: to deal with that. Y'all, I'm proposing tomorrow. I did
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Speaker 1: talk to his mom about it, just to make sure
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Speaker 1: I'm doing right by proposing, and she agrees. Wish me luck.
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Speaker 1: And we have an update eight days later, so that's
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Speaker 1: Thank you for your responses. Many people wanted an update,
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Speaker 1: so here it is. After that incident, my sister called
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Speaker 1: me two days later asking if I finally realized how
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Speaker 1: insensitive I've been to her and she wants me to apologize.
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Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I'm so sorry that You're a b- Yeah, exactly.
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Speaker 1: I told her, yes, she's my family and I love her,
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Speaker 1: but she can't expect everyone to work according to her feelings.
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Speaker 1: I didn't tell her if I was still going ahead
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Speaker 1: with the plan because honestly, I was afraid she'd try
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Speaker 1: to ruin it or something. I hung up and refused
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Speaker 1: to answer when she called. I took the advice and
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Speaker 1: refused to share any details with my parents and her.
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Speaker 1: They called the same day asking me to care for
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Speaker 1: her sister's feelings as well. Oh, brother, we got the
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Speaker 1: enabling parents that baby their kid. Oh, brother, these people stink.
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Speaker 1: I wasn't expecting much from my parents anyway. They just
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Speaker 1: want us at peace and don't really care much. Now
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Speaker 1: onto the proposal. We are visiting a friend in our
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Speaker 1: hometown who just had a baby and stayed there overnight.
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Speaker 1: Went to the beach and well, I proposed. It went
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Speaker 1: exactly how I wanted it to be. Yay. We were
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Speaker 1: walking and then got on one knee and started my
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Speaker 1: speech about how I love him, et cetera, et cetera.
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Speaker 1: I kid you not. I wasn't even 30 seconds in
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Speaker 1: when he hugged me and got emotional. It was so beautiful.
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Speaker 1: I couldn't stop smiling. He was so happy with the
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Speaker 1: ring I selected. We said some sweet words, got all emotional.
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Speaker 1: It was perfect. He also said how he loved that
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Speaker 1: it happened at the beach. So yes, my sister can
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Speaker 1: go screw herself. We then went out to dinner and
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Speaker 1: he couldn't stop smiling. That is so sweet. You know,
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Speaker 1: I feel like it can be reversed with the right people,
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Speaker 1: right relationship, all that stuff. I feel like a lot
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Speaker 1: of people cringe at that, but I don't know. Like
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Speaker 1: you guys had a plan. and it got sidetracked with
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Speaker 1: a little thing that he had to pay for or
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Speaker 1: his mother needing surgery and like needed to pay. And
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Speaker 1: I just think that's wonderful. I think that's great. I
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Speaker 1: think anybody that judges this specific scenario is just probably
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Speaker 1: her sister. If you're hating on this, you're just like
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Speaker 1: the sister, honestly. You're just hating love and I don't
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Speaker 1: like that. We then went out to dinner and he
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Speaker 1: couldn't stop smiling. Even told the waitress my girlfriend just
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Speaker 1: proposed to me. I'm engaged. So yeah, whatever doubt I
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Speaker 1: had about him not liking being proposed to vanished. We
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Speaker 1: had a great night. Later when we were about to sleep,
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Speaker 1: I still did ask him if he was really okay
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Speaker 1: with me proposing because of how upset he was about
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Speaker 1: the ring. He told me he was upset because he
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Speaker 1: felt like he was letting me down by not getting
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Speaker 1: a ring and instead helping his mom. She's doing good,
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Speaker 1: by the way. And he still says he wants a
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Speaker 1: ring on my finger soon. We talked stuff out and
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Speaker 1: we're good. I couldn't have asked for a better day. Okay. Now,
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Speaker 1: the original plan was to go visit my parents after
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Speaker 1: we're done visiting our friends, but I wasn't sure because
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Speaker 1: of the whole thing with my sister. So I called
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Speaker 1: my parents and told them I'm engaged. They did congratulate us,
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Speaker 1: but were not happy because I haven't been answering their calls.
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Speaker 1: I asked them if those calls were to make me
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Speaker 1: change my mind about the proposal, and they said yes. Okay,
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Speaker 1: proof or point? Okay. I told them it obviously wasn't
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Speaker 1: happening and asked them if they'd still wanted me to
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Speaker 1: visit them and they said yes. My sister then called
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Speaker 1: saying she can't believe how petty and immature I'm being
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Speaker 1: and how I just had to go ahead and ruin
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Speaker 1: her day. Okay, so let's not invite sister to the wedding.
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Speaker 1: I think that's kind of where I'm at right now.
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Speaker 1: I didn't even mention the engagement to her. My mom did.
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Speaker 1: I told her the same thing again. Whatever happened to
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Speaker 1: her wasn't my problem and I won't be changing my
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Speaker 1: plans because of her inability to deal with her emotions.
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Speaker 1: She then said, congratulations on your engagement. Don't worry, it
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Speaker 1: won't last. Okay. Okay. Yeah. I have a lot of
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Speaker 1: things I want to say right now, but I'm just
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Speaker 1: going to hold back. I'm just going to hold back
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Speaker 1: a little bit. All right. So it's safe to say
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Speaker 1: we won't be talking for the foreseeable future. We didn't
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Speaker 1: visit our parents and spent the next day with our
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Speaker 1: friends as well and then left. My parents don't blame me,
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Speaker 1: but want me to fix this because you know how
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Speaker 1: your sister is. gosh I'm done with her though I
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Speaker 1: was guilty only because I actually felt like I was
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Speaker 1: hurting her but she had no problem talking shit about
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Speaker 1: my boyfriend and my engagement but well I have a
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Speaker 1: fiance oh there's a wait there's another update what do
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Speaker 1: we even oh I'm scared oh oh it's later in
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Speaker 1: the year we're married he got me a ring as
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Speaker 1: well it's gorgeous we got married at a beach was
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Speaker 1: the sister there not the same one lol okay and
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Speaker 1: it was beautiful oh I'm so happy for you guys
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Speaker 1: I'm so for you guys but that sucks what your
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Speaker 1: sister you know that's just next level selfishness hopefully she
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Speaker 1: comes around hopefully she was at the wedding i hope
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Speaker 1: it worked out but i don't know blood or no
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Speaker 1: blood or no blood doesn't really give you an excuse
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Speaker 1: to be a you know it's just Sad, sad. I
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Speaker 1: hope she, I hope she is able to find happiness
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Speaker 1: for you and for herself one day. That's all I
16:07
Speaker 1: can say. Let me know what you guys think. Maybe
16:08
Speaker 1: I'm being too harsh, but I feel like I'm being
16:10
Speaker 1: harsh because I have several sisters and I would just
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Speaker 1: never treat them this way. And I know they would
16:14
Speaker 1: never treat me this way in the exact same circumstances.
16:18
Speaker 1: So I just, it's hard for me to relate a
16:20
Speaker 1: little bit. Not gonna lie, but let me know what
16:22
Speaker 1: you guys think. Let's read another one. This hair clip
16:24
Speaker 1: can't be innocent, can it? Oh. I have a feeling
16:28
Speaker 1: this hair clip was found in a space where it
16:32
Speaker 1: shouldn't be. So this started Friday morning and still haven't
16:35
Speaker 1: gotten a straight answer or even any real acknowledgement. I,
16:38
Speaker 1: 30 female, have been dating my boyfriend, let's call him Dave,
16:41
Speaker 1: 31 male, for two years. That morning, I found a
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Speaker 1: hair clip on the clipped to his dresser. A hair
16:47
Speaker 1: clip clip to his dresser? Hair clip clip to his dresser?
16:50
Speaker 1: I got a hair clip clip to his dresser. If
16:51
Speaker 1: you know, you know, okay? RuPaul. They call me. Mother. Okay, sorry,
17:03
Speaker 1: I'll stop. Anyway, that morning I found a hair clip
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Speaker 1: clipped to his dresser. Not mine. Definitely not mine. I
17:09
Speaker 1: had blonde, straight, wavy hair. This hair was dark and coarse.
17:13
Speaker 1: The clip had product on it. I don't wear that kind.
17:16
Speaker 1: I didn't bring it. Don't wear cream gel or product.
17:19
Speaker 1: I've never seen it before. I asked him, whose is this?
17:22
Speaker 1: His response, yours? I like how it has a question mark. Like,
17:27
Speaker 1: he's just like, yours? He wouldn't just say, it's yours,
17:34
Speaker 1: you know? Sounds like he's lying. With an angry tone,
17:36
Speaker 1: I said, no. Then I guessed maybe it belonged to
17:39
Speaker 1: his friend's girlfriend who had been over a long time ago.
17:42
Speaker 1: We'll call her Emily. I even offered to text and
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Speaker 1: ask her. He went silent. Oh no, Dave. Dave is
17:49
Speaker 1: having spicy sessions with Emily, I think. Then I followed
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Speaker 1: up again and told him it wasn't hers. Oh, okay.
17:58
Speaker 1: He is not having relations with Emily. Still got no
18:02
Speaker 1: real response. Just, I don't know, Alexis. And that was it. Okay,
18:05
Speaker 1: I guess your name is Alexis. Oh, I knew an
18:07
Speaker 1: Alexis in middle school. She was mean. She was mean.
18:13
Speaker 1: I asked for space because I was confused and felt
18:15
Speaker 1: like this was really shady. Since then, not a single word.
18:18
Speaker 1: Total radio silence. He didn't try to check in. Didn't
18:22
Speaker 1: offer any theories. Didn't defend himself. Didn't say he'd look
18:24
Speaker 1: into it. Nothing. Mm-hmm, mm-mm, mm-mm. I even called him.
18:31
Speaker 1: I was stranded and needed a ride and he refused
18:33
Speaker 1: to pick me up. Okay, well, what are we doing
18:36
Speaker 1: with him? Sweetie, Alexis, what are we doing with him? Cheating, like,
18:40
Speaker 1: who cares about that? He's not picking you up when
18:42
Speaker 1: you need a ride. And he's like, he's stonewalling you.
18:45
Speaker 1: Just leave this person, this guy sucks. He acted pissed
18:48
Speaker 1: off like I was punishing him. He eventually told me
18:50
Speaker 1: I'd regret this and to get the F out and
18:53
Speaker 1: shut the F up. Okay, where does he live? Where
18:57
Speaker 1: does he live? His one defense via text after I
19:01
Speaker 1: left and said, I'm not letting this go, was that
19:03
Speaker 1: it's not in his character to do this. He doesn't
19:06
Speaker 1: have the time or energy. Okay, so for the love
19:11
Speaker 1: of God to anyone out there that is trying to
19:14
Speaker 1: defend themselves when they're accused of doing this, don't say
19:19
Speaker 1: you don't have time or energy Okay. That just means
19:23
Speaker 1: you're too lazy to do it, but you would if
19:25
Speaker 1: you could. Oh, and this is the second time this
19:27
Speaker 1: exact thing has happened. In October, I found a random
19:30
Speaker 1: pair of panties. Okay. So, Alexis. Alexis, is that your name?
19:36
Speaker 1: Can I call you that? Alright. We need to leave him!
19:39
Speaker 1: Same deal. Silence, denial, no explanation. I chose to believe
19:41
Speaker 1: him then, after we did a session with my therapist.
19:44
Speaker 1: Now this just feels like deja vu with even less
19:46
Speaker 1: effort on his part to clear things up. It's been
19:48
Speaker 1: 72 hours. If he were innocent wouldn't he want to
19:51
Speaker 1: clear it up wouldn't he say something right now it
19:53
Speaker 1: just feels like he's avoiding it until i either drop
19:55
Speaker 1: it or break up with him and honestly i'm not
19:57
Speaker 1: sure which one he wants more it's what you want
19:59
Speaker 1: sweetie just break up with him you deserve somebody you're
20:02
Speaker 1: not questioning constantly and not getting talked at by he's
20:07
Speaker 1: swearing at you for what for him This is clear projection.
20:12
Speaker 1: He absolutely has been with somebody else and he hates
20:15
Speaker 1: getting caught and now he's punishing you for it. You
20:17
Speaker 1: need to live. You need to. And then you go
20:21
Speaker 1: to the club. Oh my God, this is so much fun.
20:30
Speaker 1: I'm going on tour next month. if you want to come.
20:32
Speaker 1: So Reddit, is this hair claw innocent or for being
20:35
Speaker 1: upset that he hasn't addressed this at all? Or is
20:38
Speaker 1: it fair to give someone a few days of silence
20:39
Speaker 1: when they're processing? He's definitely cheating on you. And he's
20:43
Speaker 1: a asshole. He's a ripe asshole. I don't even know
20:46
Speaker 1: what that means, but he is that, you know? He's
20:48
Speaker 1: a prolapsed asshole. I think that's what I'm trying to say.
20:51
Speaker 1: Glad we have this talk. Unfortunately, there's an update that
20:54
Speaker 1: we have to read. I hope it's just her saying
20:55
Speaker 1: they broke up. You guys read it. I'm scared. Just kidding,
20:58
Speaker 1: I will. This was his exact text. Okay, we get
21:01
Speaker 1: to hear his words. I gotta give him a voice.
21:03
Speaker 1: I gotta give him a voice. Saying this as clearly
21:07
Speaker 1: as I can, I didn't cheat. Not now, not ever.
21:10
Speaker 1: On everything I love, including you, I swear that none
21:14
Speaker 1: else has been here in my bed or in this
21:16
Speaker 1: house with me like that. Like that? Okay? I don't
21:21
Speaker 1: have the energy for it. And more importantly, I wouldn't
21:25
Speaker 1: do that to you. I spent all my free time gaming,
21:28
Speaker 1: and the only reasonable time that that could have happened
21:30
Speaker 1: is yesterday when you wee-gone all day and you saw
21:34
Speaker 1: the state of me when you got here. Disheveled. Sweaty.
21:40
Speaker 1: Smelling suspicious, maybe? Greasy, unshowered, and not exactly in the
21:44
Speaker 1: state where I'd hang out with someone. This is the
21:47
Speaker 1: worst defense I've ever heard. Judge... Put him in jail
21:51
Speaker 1: for life. I don't know how I can prove this
21:55
Speaker 1: to you, but I will. You've got nothing to worry about.
21:58
Speaker 1: Promise that, oh God. And you're the last person I'd
22:01
Speaker 1: try to sneak having someone hereby. Because you're too smart.
22:05
Speaker 1: Oh my God, he actually says that. You're too intelligent
22:07
Speaker 1: and hyper-vigilant. You're just saying you would if you could,
22:10
Speaker 1: but you're too lazy and she's too smart to get you.
22:16
Speaker 1: Dude sucks. Dude sucks, dude. Suck. I can't believe humans
22:28
Speaker 1: like this exist. And in touch with your intuition and
22:31
Speaker 1: observant and all other things, you'd feel it. And I
22:35
Speaker 1: know even if there was no evidence and I have
22:39
Speaker 1: an unbearably overwhelmingly guilty conscience, so I couldn't lie to you.
22:43
Speaker 1: Just not me. Plus you're like a witch. You know
22:46
Speaker 1: for sure. Wow. Wow, we have a reply. So let's
22:50
Speaker 1: read that. I really just need some space and time
22:53
Speaker 1: to think. I can't think of anyone who is in
22:55
Speaker 1: our circle and has that texture and curl of hair.
22:59
Speaker 1: That clip wasn't there when I tried turning your light
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Speaker 1: on just the other day. I also looked for your
23:03
Speaker 1: baseball caps in your dresser the day I wore the
23:05
Speaker 1: bucket hat. It wasn't there either. So I am having
23:08
Speaker 1: a hard time wrapping my head around what's happened here.
23:11
Speaker 1: This guy is such... I was gonna say Chad, but
23:16
Speaker 1: he's such a Dave, dude. Screw Dave. Buy that message. Uh,
23:21
Speaker 1: projectile vomit. He's projectile vomiting on you, I feel like.
23:27
Speaker 1: In my opinion, you know, do I know for sure? No.
23:29
Speaker 1: Am I making it my business? Yes. Am I sharing
23:31
Speaker 1: it with hundreds of thousands of you? Also yes. Do
23:34
Speaker 1: I want to hear your guys' opinions? Absolutely. So let's
23:37
Speaker 1: judge him down below. If you use a laundromat, the
23:39
Speaker 1: panties could have been left in a washer. he used
23:42
Speaker 1: and got into his dryer load, but the hair clip
23:44
Speaker 1: on the dresser isn't an accident. My guess is someone
23:46
Speaker 1: left it there for you to find, and he's trying
23:49
Speaker 1: to act oblivious about its existence. But if he's been
23:52
Speaker 1: in an unstable relationship prior to this, where he was
23:54
Speaker 1: constantly accused of cheating without proof, then I can see
23:57
Speaker 1: why he'd be resistant about wanting to address it at all.
23:59
Speaker 1: But his radio silence is a big red flag, whether
24:01
Speaker 1: he's guilty or avoiding the subject. Just the way he's
24:04
Speaker 1: treating you in general. Let's just put all that even aside.
24:07
Speaker 1: You have every right to be acting the way you
24:09
Speaker 1: do based off of his initial reaction. The way he's
24:11
Speaker 1: talking to you is horrible, you know? If he's not
24:14
Speaker 1: even willing to talk to you about it, that would
24:16
Speaker 1: be a deal breaker for me. He's either carrying resentment
24:19
Speaker 1: for a prior relationship into yours or he's guilty as fuck. Exactly.
24:22
Speaker 1: OP said, it was my own washer and dryer. Every
24:25
Speaker 1: relationship and his family dynamic have been beyond unstable. Him
24:28
Speaker 1: not cheating doesn't make sense because I've only had people
24:31
Speaker 1: over two times in eight weeks. I work a lot.
24:33
Speaker 1: And they do not have that course of hair and
24:36
Speaker 1: their hair wouldn't fit in the clip. Girls know we know. Okay,
24:39
Speaker 1: too long or too short. So like it came from
24:42
Speaker 1: somewhere and him trying to blame me. This morning he
24:44
Speaker 1: literally tried making me believe it's mine and I just
24:47
Speaker 1: forgot about it. It's gaslighting 101, it's crazy. Another one says, ma'am,
24:50
Speaker 1: if you don't have a rain cam, then I hope
24:52
Speaker 1: you have a neighbor that does. Or is nosy or observant.
24:58
Speaker 1: This is real shady and one move would be to
25:01
Speaker 1: ask to check his phone, but if he's slick, it
25:03
Speaker 1: could be clean. We know it is by now. It
25:05
Speaker 1: does sound like that man doesn't care because you sound
25:08
Speaker 1: like you were going through it, mind racing, trying to
25:10
Speaker 1: find alternative explanations and he's just being dismissive. I hope
25:13
Speaker 1: he find answers in peace. Hope he said he freaking
25:16
Speaker 1: unplugged the kitty cam and the outside cam. Okay. Why
25:21
Speaker 1: are we with him? Let's use our deduction skills. Let's
25:25
Speaker 1: use- He's never offered it and never asked, but if
25:27
Speaker 1: it was me, I would have thrown my phone at him. Like,
25:29
Speaker 1: check it, I'm innocent. Oh, we have an update, though.
25:31
Speaker 1: We have an update. Everybody shut up and sit down. Okay,
25:33
Speaker 1: grab a blankie and some snacks. Let's read. So here's
25:35
Speaker 1: the update. I've barely slept since the most recent incident.
25:37
Speaker 1: This morning at 7.30 a.m., he came into my room
25:40
Speaker 1: and apologized tearfully. Oh, brother. He said he was sorry
25:43
Speaker 1: for being so angry and explained that his explosive reactions
25:46
Speaker 1: come from deeper trauma. He was bullied in the seventh-
25:53
Speaker 1: This kid made fun of my braces when I was 12.
25:55
Speaker 1: He was bullied in seventh grade for something he didn't do. Again,
25:58
Speaker 1: in ninth grade by the entire school and later by
26:00
Speaker 1: nurses at his job. And someone lied about one of
26:02
Speaker 1: his patients and he ended up being bullied in that
26:05
Speaker 1: environment too. I feel like he did do the things. No,
26:07
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know what they're talking about,
26:10
Speaker 1: but you know. That sucks. I don't know how that
26:13
Speaker 1: has to do with anything, but okay. He said his
26:15
Speaker 1: anger is rooted in that same feeling, being punished for
26:18
Speaker 1: something he didn't do. Guy's just asking chat GBT, putting
26:21
Speaker 1: in prompts like, how do I come up with a
26:23
Speaker 1: traumatic incident that makes up for me reacting the way
26:26
Speaker 1: I did to my girlfriend when I absolutely cheated on her?
26:30
Speaker 1: He admitted he can't prove he didn't cheat, but said
26:33
Speaker 1: if I checked his gaming activity from that day, it
26:35
Speaker 1: would show he was online for nearly 16 hours. Okay. Hi. Hi.
26:40
Speaker 1: Gamer girl here, you can just leave a game open
26:43
Speaker 1: and it'll say that. So yeah, you don't have to
26:46
Speaker 1: be playing the game. He even told me to talk
26:48
Speaker 1: to his friends. Who could vouch for that? Who he's
26:50
Speaker 1: talked to, to be like, dude, you need... You need
26:53
Speaker 1: to tell Michael that I didn't cheat on her because
26:56
Speaker 1: I got made a fun of in the seventh grade.
26:58
Speaker 1: And the girl that I slept with left her clip there.
27:00
Speaker 1: I just need you to do this for me, dude. Okay,
27:02
Speaker 1: I'll have your back in the next round. He said,
27:05
Speaker 1: I'd know if something happened that I'd smell the sheets.
27:08
Speaker 1: And that's why I did it on the couch. I
27:10
Speaker 1: reminded him that the last time this happened right before
27:12
Speaker 1: my grandma's funeral, he hadn't changed his sheets then either.
27:15
Speaker 1: His response, we weren't dating. I replied, my point is
27:18
Speaker 1: you're capable. And he said, it's different now. Wait, what? What?
27:23
Speaker 1: The last time this happened? Oh, are you talking about
27:25
Speaker 1: when you found the underwear? Or are you talking about
27:28
Speaker 1: he actually cheated? Interesting. Okay, I'm assuming that's just about
27:31
Speaker 1: the underwear, but okay. As for the cameras being down, conveniently,
27:34
Speaker 1: during the time I was gone and both items appeared,
27:36
Speaker 1: he said the Wi-Fi modem was changed because he was
27:39
Speaker 1: setting up the sound bar and didn't realize it disconnected
27:41
Speaker 1: the security system. I pushed back. He's incredibly smart and strategic.
27:45
Speaker 1: He could have easily set it up ahead of time.
27:47
Speaker 1: He insisted it was just poor timing and reminded me
27:49
Speaker 1: that he told me to check the cameras himself. I
27:51
Speaker 1: told him again, he's asking me to let go of
27:54
Speaker 1: all logic and just believe him despite past situationships, behavior,
27:58
Speaker 1: conflicting stories, and too many coincidences. I said, you're asking
28:00
Speaker 1: me to close my eyes and pretend I didn't find
28:02
Speaker 1: what I found. Exactly. He said he's reached out to
28:06
Speaker 1: a counselor he used to see, which I had asked
28:09
Speaker 1: him to do earlier in the conversation because his anger
28:11
Speaker 1: response is not normal. I told him I still need
28:14
Speaker 1: more time to think. I can't let the clip and
28:16
Speaker 1: panties go. I literally watch crime shows for fun. I hope,
28:19
Speaker 1: I hope she watches my channel. I need evidence to
28:23
Speaker 1: believe someone's innocence when logic and context suggest otherwise. Yes,
28:26
Speaker 1: we love a logical queen. I'm not trying to punish
28:29
Speaker 1: him by still having him move out, but I can't
28:32
Speaker 1: just silence my instincts either. He's the one that said
28:34
Speaker 1: you were so instinctual and so intelligent. Let's just... Let's
28:38
Speaker 1: just live up to his expectations and be smart. And
28:41
Speaker 1: what you are doing is really smart, in my opinion.
28:43
Speaker 1: So yeah, that's where I'm at. Still being gaslit? Lol.
28:46
Speaker 1: I was really starting to question myself because he ignored
28:49
Speaker 1: me for so long. He didn't address any direct questions, etc.
28:52
Speaker 1: Then my second thought is the way he reacted should
28:54
Speaker 1: be a deal breaker in and of itself, irregardless of
28:57
Speaker 1: his trauma. That is exactly right. You deduced and you
29:00
Speaker 1: came to a beautiful conclusion. I'm so proud of you.
29:03
Speaker 1: I love it. I love it. Yeah, that's exactly, that's
29:05
Speaker 1: exactly it. It's so many different things. It's not just
29:08
Speaker 1: the potential cheating. It's the way he reacted. It's the
29:11
Speaker 1: way he's treating you now. And it's not going to
29:15
Speaker 1: change at least anytime soon. He is a rat caught
29:19
Speaker 1: in a corner and he's trying to save himself in
29:23
Speaker 1: any way he can. And you just need to, you know, meow.
29:30
Speaker 1: But not literally, I just mean like break up the relationship,
29:33
Speaker 1: you know? That's what I'm saying. One of the comments says,
29:37
Speaker 1: online gaming with no wifi, is that possible? Yeah, if
29:40
Speaker 1: he's playing with his friends. Peace for real right now.
29:45
Speaker 1: What the? Oh, he said he changed the modem like
29:47
Speaker 1: 48 hours before the clip was found. Okay, yeah, all right.
29:50
Speaker 1: Oh God, there is another update. I see the little
29:53
Speaker 1: title thing. I'm scared. I'm scared I'm wrong, mostly. Let's
29:57
Speaker 1: read it. For the last 22 days, he's been perfectly pleasant,
30:01
Speaker 1: love bombing me. Classic. Giving me extra attention, spicy time, cuddles,
30:07
Speaker 1: going out of his way for me. Why are we
30:09
Speaker 1: engaging with this human being? Why are we engaging with
30:15
Speaker 1: this human? And honestly, it almost worked. Almost worked. How
30:18
Speaker 1: old are you again? We all need to learn a
30:20
Speaker 1: lesson at some point. I just need to, I need
30:22
Speaker 1: to refresh. You're 30 years old. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay.
30:27
Speaker 1: You need better friends. I feel like you need a
30:29
Speaker 1: friend that would just be like, shake your shoulder and
30:32
Speaker 1: be like, you deserve better. It's so clear, but it's
30:36
Speaker 1: not always, I don't want to, I don't want to
30:37
Speaker 1: be too hard on this OP because it's when you're
30:39
Speaker 1: in it, you know, especially for the first time, you
30:41
Speaker 1: can't see it as well. And clearly you're very smart,
30:44
Speaker 1: but you're willing to give them the benefit of the doubt.
30:49
Speaker 1: I just feel bad. Anyway, we were fine, keeping the peace.
30:52
Speaker 1: Had all the cameras plugged back in and working again. Sure,
30:56
Speaker 1: he was still gaming basically 24 seven, but whatever. He's 31,
31:00
Speaker 1: by the way. Fast forward to me leaving for this trip.
31:02
Speaker 1: Four hours later, boom, the front door camera's unplugged. I
31:06
Speaker 1: only noticed because I was drunk, missing my dog, he's
31:09
Speaker 1: babysitting him, and went to check in. I called and
31:12
Speaker 1: told him to plug it back in instead of just
31:15
Speaker 1: doing it. He argued that he doesn't want to be
31:18
Speaker 1: spied on and then, throughout. I'll just move out now
31:22
Speaker 1: if you can't trust me. I think that's a great idea,
31:27
Speaker 1: Steve or Dave or whoever. I'm getting everybody's names mixed
31:31
Speaker 1: up now. Was that from the last story or the story?
31:32
Speaker 1: I can't remember. Like, sir, why would I trust you
31:37
Speaker 1: when this is your move the second I leave town
31:39
Speaker 1: after weeks of the cameras being just fine? You unplug
31:42
Speaker 1: one almost immediately. Anyway, I'm honestly blown away. But I
31:45
Speaker 1: guess the upside is he'll be gone a few weeks
31:48
Speaker 1: earlier than I planned when I get back. Yeah, I mean,
31:50
Speaker 1: all the, it's just like classic trademark. person cheating and
31:57
Speaker 1: trying to make up for it and projecting and then
32:00
Speaker 1: love bombing and then gaslighting again and then doing the
32:03
Speaker 1: same thing over again because you believed him. Then gaslighting
32:07
Speaker 1: you some more and then throwing some flames onto it.
32:12
Speaker 1: This is just, I'm tired. I'm tired. I'm so glad
32:16
Speaker 1: you guys are done. I think you're done. Is there
32:18
Speaker 1: any more updates? Dear God. No, there's no more updates. Okay,
32:20
Speaker 1: thank God. But yeah, no, I'm just, I'm happy you
32:22
Speaker 1: figured it out and I don't blame you for... you know,
32:25
Speaker 1: staying and trying to, trying to make it work. And
32:28
Speaker 1: you know, we're, we're not there, so we don't know,
32:31
Speaker 1: but like we do, we do, you know, but she
32:34
Speaker 1: figured it out. She figured it out. She's not with
32:36
Speaker 1: this asshole anymore. And I hope that he has, you know,
32:40
Speaker 1: fun playing video games with his buddies 24 seven at
32:43
Speaker 1: the age of 31. And I'm for it. I love
32:45
Speaker 1: video games, but maybe not 24 seven at the age
32:48
Speaker 1: of 31. If it's not your job, you know, and
32:51
Speaker 1: using seventh grade bullying as a defense mechanism for obviously
32:57
Speaker 1: cheating on your girlfriend and stuff. This guy's just kind
32:58
Speaker 1: of a piece of shit. I'm being a hater right now,
33:01
Speaker 1: but I think I can. It's my channel, I can
33:03
Speaker 1: do what I want. What do you guys think though?
33:07
Speaker 1: What do you guys think? Let me know. All right,
33:09
Speaker 1: one more, last but not least, okay? We got another
33:12
Speaker 1: sister one. My sister was threatening to tell my family
33:17
Speaker 1: and boyfriend that I slept with her fiance. So you're
33:23
Speaker 1: the bad guy. Wait, did you sleep with him like
33:27
Speaker 1: before they were fiance and before you had a boyfriend?
33:33
Speaker 1: I'm gonna try not to interrupt myself 85,000 times during this, okay?
33:38
Speaker 1: I'm gonna try. my best, okay? So I, 24 female,
33:41
Speaker 1: have a sister, 29 female, who has been in a
33:43
Speaker 1: relationship for three years. She got engaged in February 2025.
33:47
Speaker 1: They rented a small flat in our city. However, she
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Speaker 1: has been staying at our parents recently due to the
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Speaker 1: fight that started this. I am still a student who's
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Speaker 1: living at home while finishing my master's degree. I have
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Speaker 1: a boyfriend of two years and we are currently long
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Speaker 1: distance as he is studying abroad. Little bit of backstory,
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Speaker 1: me and my sister don't get a I have ADHD,
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Speaker 1: autism and ADHD, I believe that is. My sister has ADHD,
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Speaker 1: hyperactive type. She has always been the comedian of the family,
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Speaker 1: but often her jokes come at the expense of others
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Speaker 1: and involves winding people up or acting as a wooden
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Speaker 1: spoon to stir any pot of drama she can find.
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Speaker 1: I tend to not initiate contact with her to avoid
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Speaker 1: any potential issues since, while she is family, I feel
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Speaker 1: more stressed after spending time with her. Me and my
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Speaker 1: sister's fiance get along pretty well. However, we have shared
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Speaker 1: interests in motorsports and we usually talk about it at
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Speaker 1: family get togethers. We don't talk outside of family gatherings much,
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Speaker 1: just the occasional text when F1 or MotoGP is running
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Speaker 1: or little life updates if we haven't seen each other
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Speaker 1: in a while. My parents have said previously that they
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Speaker 1: find it odd how I am fine with talking to
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Speaker 1: her fiance, but have a weird aversion to talking to
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Speaker 1: her directly. But this has never been a point of tension.
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Speaker 1: I'm trying really hard, guys. I'm trying really hard not
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Speaker 1: to say anything. But... Back to recent times. A little
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Speaker 1: over a month ago, my sister found bank statements in
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Speaker 1: their flat for cards she didn't know existed. Most of
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Speaker 1: the transactions had been to hotels or restaurants abroad. She
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Speaker 1: checked the dates of the restaurants, and they line up
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Speaker 1: with the times and countries he had been away for
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Speaker 1: work trips. But the exact restaurant and hotel locations do
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Speaker 1: not add up. Example, him going away for a conference,
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Speaker 1: but the hotel and restaurant he booked were at least
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Speaker 1: an hour away from the city. She immediately thought he
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Speaker 1: was cheating and searched his phone but found nothing. He
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Speaker 1: caught her snooping and they fought about it, which ended
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Speaker 1: up with him admitting he had cheated while abroad. Oh no.
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Speaker 1: The wedding is off and she has moved back into
35:38
Speaker 1: our parents' place while they figure out their lease. Okay.
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Speaker 1: I'm scared. The weekend after she came back to our parents,
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Speaker 1: we went out for dinner as they thought she could
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Speaker 1: use a pick-me-up evening with the whole family. Over dinner,
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Speaker 1: we talked a lot about recent life events other than
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Speaker 1: my sister's fight and travel got brought up. I had
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Speaker 1: traveled to Singapore in September of 2025 to visit friends
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Speaker 1: and relive our undergraduate clubbing days. My parents wanted to
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Speaker 1: plan a trip to Singapore and I recommended the hotel
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Speaker 1: I stayed in plus a few nice food spots around
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Speaker 1: that area. In hindsight, my sister was uncharacteristically silent after this,
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Speaker 1: but the rest of dinner went pretty normal. Okay. Two
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Speaker 1: days ago, my sister invited me to go to dinner
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Speaker 1: that evening, saying she had something serious she wanted to
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Speaker 1: talk about without worrying our parents. This was very out
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Speaker 1: of the ordinary for her. We haven't gone out to
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Speaker 1: dinner with just the two of us since I was
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Speaker 1: probably 15, but this whole situation was hardly ordinary either.
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Speaker 1: So I didn't question it. The dinner hardly had any talking.
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Speaker 1: Right after we ordered our drinks, she accused me of
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Speaker 1: sleeping with her fiance and being one of the women
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Speaker 1: he was cheating on her with. Oh, Oh... She pulled
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Speaker 1: up to the bank statements for me to check, and
36:46
Speaker 1: sure enough, there are transactions for the same hotel in
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Speaker 1: the same week I was in Singapore. What? The one
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Speaker 1: I mentioned to our parents. She accused me of being
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Speaker 1: jealous of her relationship, saying that I was bitter that
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Speaker 1: she was proposed to within two years of them starting
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Speaker 1: dating and that I clearly thought I was better match
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Speaker 1: for her fiance since we had more hobbies and interests
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Speaker 1: in common. We literally have one, right? The F1 and stuff.
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Speaker 1: There was a lot of back and forth of me
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Speaker 1: trying to reason with her and get any sort of
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Speaker 1: exact detail or legitimate proof that could have caused her
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Speaker 1: to think this. But by this point, she was livid.
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Speaker 1: The whole thing escalated from zero to 100 within like
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Speaker 1: 15 minutes. I'm definitely missing a few details of her accusations.
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Speaker 1: There were a lot of them, but the main threat
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Speaker 1: she had was to tell my parents and my boyfriend
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Speaker 1: I was a bitter lying homewrecker, her exact words, if
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Speaker 1: I didn't come clean. Okay, we're under the assumption that
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Speaker 1: she didn't actually do this. That is a crazy coincidence.
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Speaker 1: That is a crazy coincidence to be in Singapore the
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Speaker 1: same week. That's like... I don't like, I don't know.
37:48
Speaker 1: I feel like this could be a conversation, but based
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Speaker 1: off of how you reacted, I feel like she should
37:53
Speaker 1: have been, you know, a little bit more chill. But
37:55
Speaker 1: also I kind of understand her being like, did you?
37:58
Speaker 1: And he also admitted that he's, this is a weird situation.
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Speaker 1: I'm just going to keep reading. How on earth is
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Speaker 1: someone meant to navigate this situation? I don't know. I
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Speaker 1: don't know. I think it goes without saying that I
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Speaker 1: never cheated. Okay, perfect. We love that. Just making sure.
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Speaker 1: And definitely not with her fiance. I mean, your friends
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Speaker 1: were with you, so there could be that. But how
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Speaker 1: does someone begin to plead their innocence in a situation
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Speaker 1: like this? I have no witnesses for me. When I
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Speaker 1: was in Singapore, I was visiting friends, yes, but I
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Speaker 1: stayed in my hotel every night since they all live
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Speaker 1: in different areas and the hotel was pretty central. Oh
38:30
Speaker 1: my God. No way. Both sides of this case have
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Speaker 1: basically no firm evidence other than a few bills. On
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Speaker 1: top of this, how would I even begin to manage
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Speaker 1: the fallout if she were to tell people this? Long
38:42
Speaker 1: distance is hard enough as is. I cannot imagine how
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Speaker 1: shattered my boyfriend would be if he was told I
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Speaker 1: cheated with this man he considered a friend. Any advice
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Speaker 1: would be massively appreciated. I will update this post once
38:51
Speaker 1: I have more information or to answer any common questions. Oh.
38:55
Speaker 1: My God. Oh, extra info. There was a three day
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Speaker 1: overlap in dates. I arrived Tuesday, left Sunday. The statement
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Speaker 1: show charges from Friday until sometime the week after. Don't
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Speaker 1: remember exactly what day. I just know it was after
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Speaker 1: I left. I'm not going to lie. This looks pretty bad.
39:13
Speaker 1: I feel like you need to talk to the fiance.
39:16
Speaker 1: I feel like you need to, I mean, he already
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Speaker 1: admitted that, but I feel like you need to sit
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Speaker 1: both of them down and tell her like, I feel
39:23
Speaker 1: like the reaction will be so clear that he'd be like, no,
39:25
Speaker 1: it was with this person, you know? And it's just
39:27
Speaker 1: gotta be based off of that. But this is a terrible, situation.
39:31
Speaker 1: This is a terrible situation. I don't think it can
39:33
Speaker 1: get much worse than this for an innocent party. Oh my,
39:36
Speaker 1: oh my goodness. Yeah. It's just, I don't, I don't know.
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Speaker 1: I would let your, your boyfriend know immediately before she
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Speaker 1: could say anything, be like, this is insane. Just be honest. And...
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Speaker 1: You just need to be honest. You just need to
39:48
Speaker 1: be honest. You need to tell your boyfriend first about
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Speaker 1: this whole situation, and then you need to sit them
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Speaker 1: down and talk to them, I feel like. But let's
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Speaker 1: read the comments. Maybe I'm stupid. It's a massive coincidence
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Speaker 1: that you would stay at the exact hotel her boyfriend
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Speaker 1: stayed at on the same dates that he was there.
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Speaker 1: This is a hard one to disprove if you weren't
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Speaker 1: doing things with your friends in the evenings. OP, read
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Speaker 1: the coincidence, agreed. I was really shocked when she showed
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Speaker 1: me the bank statement. The dates had a three-day overlap
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Speaker 1: where we were both in the same hotel, though I
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Speaker 1: never saw him or knew he was there. I was
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Speaker 1: talking about how I planned this trip for at least
40:18
Speaker 1: a month beforehand, though, so I'm hoping my parents aren't
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Speaker 1: too old that they remember me asking about flights and
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Speaker 1: travel restrictions. I don't go abroad often, but my mom
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Speaker 1: has traveled a lot for work, so she's my go-to
40:28
Speaker 1: for travel advice. Yeah, also like, why would you admit
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Speaker 1: to being there at the exact same time? That just
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Speaker 1: wouldn't really make sense. Re-proof from evenings, I do have
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Speaker 1: photos from nights out with my friends that prove I
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Speaker 1: was with them basically every evening, but those photos dwindle
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Speaker 1: in numbers the later each night got. I will have
40:42
Speaker 1: to ask my friends if any of them got can
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Speaker 1: vouch that they dropped me off at my hotel as
40:47
Speaker 1: that would disprove any restaurant charges. However, the issue of
40:50
Speaker 1: being in the same hotel rears its head again here
40:53
Speaker 1: since she could always argue I went back to his
40:57
Speaker 1: room instead of mine. Jeez Louise. Another comment said, when
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Speaker 1: you went in your hotel room, did you open the
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Speaker 1: door at any point? If not, you may get the
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Speaker 1: hotel to provide key card usage for those three days
41:07
Speaker 1: easier than surveillance footage. Of course, if you left the
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Speaker 1: room to get ice or some other innocuous reason, that
41:12
Speaker 1: won't help. Oh my God. OP said, I'm literally drafting
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Speaker 1: up an email to the hotel as I type this.
41:17
Speaker 1: I was about to ask about surveillance footage, but this
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Speaker 1: is crazy. You're having to ask for surveillance footage because
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Speaker 1: your sister doesn't believe you. But I mean, it is
41:24
Speaker 1: a crazy situation, but like that, I feel like that
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Speaker 1: proves it in and of itself that you're emailing to
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Speaker 1: get surveillance footage to prove that you're innocent. You know,
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Speaker 1: you wouldn't be doing all of that if you weren't.
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Speaker 1: I don't know. My gosh. Another comment says, this is
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Speaker 1: not at all on you to prove from thin air.
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Speaker 1: She made the accusation, so she needs actual proof. That's
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Speaker 1: how the law works. Law. I mean, she doesn't have proof,
41:46
Speaker 1: but she kind of has proof. You know what I mean?
41:48
Speaker 1: OP says, ironically, she is a lawyer. Oh no. But
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Speaker 1: I doubt she's going to really care about typical legal
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Speaker 1: proceedings right now, even if I swore myself in. Jeez Louise.
41:58
Speaker 1: Is there an update? Oh my God, there is. Everybody
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Speaker 1: shut up, sit down, grab a blankie and some snacks.
42:02
Speaker 1: Let's read the update. In order to keep this update linear,
42:06
Speaker 1: let's start with the last night, approximately five hours after
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Speaker 1: the original post. I video called my boyfriend. Okay, good.
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Speaker 1: This is what I wanted you to do. Going to
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Speaker 1: call him Ken in this post. Last night, after reading
42:15
Speaker 1: through you guys' comments and advice, many of you suggested
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Speaker 1: I get in front of this as to not let
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Speaker 1: her get direct narrative. So that's what I tried to do.
42:22
Speaker 1: Tried is the key word here. Oh no. Oh, Ken's
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Speaker 1: spiraling and I don't blame him. Oh no, we chatted
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Speaker 1: for a bit about normal stuff before I said we
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Speaker 1: should talk about my sister's situation. Ken's facial expression visibly
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Speaker 1: changed when I mentioned this. I asked what was up
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Speaker 1: and he said she had messaged him some pretty weird
42:39
Speaker 1: stuff earlier that day. She got ahead of it. right away.
42:42
Speaker 1: You should have said immediately about her ex and me.
42:44
Speaker 1: For context, Ken knows that me and my sister have
42:47
Speaker 1: a pretty complex relationship. He also knows that me and
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Speaker 1: the ex talked occasionally. He encouraged all four of us
42:52
Speaker 1: to hang sometimes, but this only happened a few times
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Speaker 1: and stopped once he left for his year abroad. I
42:57
Speaker 1: asked Ken when he had been told and he said this,
43:00
Speaker 1: paraphrased from memory, as I do not know how... to
43:03
Speaker 1: use a stenotype, okay? Quote, I got a text from
43:06
Speaker 1: her while I was out saying that she needed to
43:08
Speaker 1: talk to me about our relationship. She said our relationship
43:11
Speaker 1: was doomed because she caught you cheating with her fiance
43:13
Speaker 1: and that you didn't even try to defend yourself. You
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Speaker 1: kept focusing on irrelevant details when it was clear you
43:18
Speaker 1: two were in a hotel together in Singapore. I know
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Speaker 1: you and your sister don't get along, but I never
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Speaker 1: got the impression you two hated each other enough for
43:25
Speaker 1: her to lie about cheating, so I don't know where
43:27
Speaker 1: to go from here. I was floored. As I mentioned
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Speaker 1: in a comment on a previous post, Ken is similar
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Speaker 1: to me in that he puts logical reasoning before extremes.
43:35
Speaker 1: He asked if I had anything to say about it.
43:37
Speaker 1: I gave him the rundown from my POV in chronological order,
43:40
Speaker 1: starting from when I was booking the holiday back in
43:42
Speaker 1: August of 2025. I backed all of this up with receipts,
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Speaker 1: screen shares of bank statements from any relevant times and
43:47
Speaker 1: photos with timestamps from nights out with friends. Somebody suggested
43:50
Speaker 1: in the last post that I have as many receipts
43:53
Speaker 1: as possible since it helps build a routine and pictures
43:55
Speaker 1: of your day for people since almost everything costs money
43:58
Speaker 1: these days so you can track your movement. I did
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Speaker 1: this before I called and made sure I had everything
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Speaker 1: I might need on hand. I also got a few
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Speaker 1: of my friends on text saying they know I was
44:06
Speaker 1: waking up in my own hotel room since they had
44:09
Speaker 1: called through the hotel reception to wake me up a
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Speaker 1: few times. The whole thing took 45 minutes, of which
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Speaker 1: he stayed relatively silent aside from an occasional question to
44:17
Speaker 1: make sure he was understanding all links I was drawing up.
44:20
Speaker 1: By the end of it, I was on the brink
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Speaker 1: of tears, mostly because it took saying it all out
44:24
Speaker 1: loud to realize how... up the whole guilty until proven
44:26
Speaker 1: innocent thing is. Ken bluntly asked if I had cheated,
44:30
Speaker 1: to which I said no, never. He took a minute,
44:32
Speaker 1: then said he trusted me, which was huge weight off
44:35
Speaker 1: my shoulders. God bless Ken. He asked what could have
44:37
Speaker 1: made my sister think I cheated, and I said I
44:39
Speaker 1: didn't know, but thought she was just hurt and looking
44:42
Speaker 1: for someone to pin the blame on so she could
44:43
Speaker 1: vent her anger somewhere. He said that made sense, but
44:46
Speaker 1: he didn't understand how she drew these conclusions or how
44:48
Speaker 1: she pieced this together from a single hotel name drop. Yeah, that's,
44:51
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, she probably went the like full
44:54
Speaker 1: FBI mode once he told her that he actually did,
44:57
Speaker 1: because remember, her fiance actually did cheat on her, right?
45:00
Speaker 1: So I asked what he meant, and he said there's
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Speaker 1: at least three Shangri-La hotels or apartment blocks in Singapore,
45:06
Speaker 1: and he didn't understand how she knew I stayed in
45:08
Speaker 1: this exact same hotel. I didn't really have an answer
45:10
Speaker 1: to that. I didn't have a copy of the bank statements.
45:12
Speaker 1: I didn't note down to the exact recipient from the
45:15
Speaker 1: statement she waved in my face. I also said she
45:17
Speaker 1: could still argue I visited his room or visited mine,
45:19
Speaker 1: which ended that speculation. I offered to ask to see
45:22
Speaker 1: the bank statement again, but he shut me down and
45:24
Speaker 1: said he would ask since she doesn't know we've spoken yet. Oh, okay, good.
45:28
Speaker 1: We'll see. Double agent. We like this. Okay. He messaged
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Speaker 1: her last night and she apparently responded by saying she
45:32
Speaker 1: would send them to him in the morning, which should
45:34
Speaker 1: have been before this update was written, but I haven't
45:36
Speaker 1: heard anything from him, so I suspect that hasn't happened.
45:39
Speaker 1: The rest of the call was a lot of questions
45:41
Speaker 1: and not a lot of definitive answers. He appreciates that
45:43
Speaker 1: I spoke to him about it and stayed calm instead
45:45
Speaker 1: of spiraling as it helped him stay calm about it too.
45:48
Speaker 1: I sent him the post I made to ask if
45:50
Speaker 1: he was okay with me updating with our conversation, which
45:52
Speaker 1: he said was fine and he would like to see
45:54
Speaker 1: what people have to say. I slept pretty well after that.
45:56
Speaker 1: Good level-headed conversation with logical people. Okay. Okay, logic. On
46:01
Speaker 1: to this morning, right before I started typing this post.
46:04
Speaker 1: Both of my parents were home today, so I offered
46:06
Speaker 1: to cook breakfast as to hope we could all sit
46:08
Speaker 1: down and open up a chance for me to address
46:10
Speaker 1: my sister's case. I suspected that since she told Ken,
46:13
Speaker 1: she almost certainly told our parents too. However, when I
46:15
Speaker 1: tried to start explaining myself, I got cut off almost
46:17
Speaker 1: as soon as I mentioned the Singapore trip. My parents
46:19
Speaker 1: told me they had already heard my sister's half of
46:21
Speaker 1: the story the day before. No surprise there. My mom,
46:24
Speaker 1: who for context has a higher IQ than my dad
46:26
Speaker 1: and so generally takes charge with these sorts of conversations,
46:29
Speaker 1: said that while they believed they'd raised me better than
46:32
Speaker 1: to do something like this, she was not going to
46:34
Speaker 1: let me plead my case to them as I was
46:36
Speaker 1: clearly in a better state of mind about it whereas
46:38
Speaker 1: my sister was torn apart. She said my sister was
46:40
Speaker 1: sensitive and she would think that her own parents didn't
46:43
Speaker 1: believe her or care about her hurting. My dad chimed
46:46
Speaker 1: in saying that she already has a slight resentment towards
46:49
Speaker 1: them and me because I was praised more when we
46:51
Speaker 1: were young context marked with a number below too much
46:55
Speaker 1: for brackets and not everyone will care and that he
46:57
Speaker 1: wouldn't get involved but also refused to openly support me
46:59
Speaker 1: in a time where she needed to see she was
47:01
Speaker 1: supported and loved. Okay, so they're just basically sitting on
47:05
Speaker 1: that fence. To say I was blindsided was an understatement.
47:09
Speaker 1: The entire time they were talking on and on about
47:11
Speaker 1: how they didn't want to take sides, they were openly
47:14
Speaker 1: allying with her notion that I cheated with her fiance.
47:17
Speaker 1: Who are these people? The hypocrisy was brutal. I said
47:19
Speaker 1: all of this directly to them, calling out the contradiction
47:22
Speaker 1: and saying that if they didn't take my side but
47:24
Speaker 1: openly confronted my sister, everybody we know would draw up
47:27
Speaker 1: the same conclusion that I cheated and that my parents
47:30
Speaker 1: were being charitable by not reprimanding me further. Therapy is
47:35
Speaker 1: a beautiful thing. My mom said that if I was
47:39
Speaker 1: able to prepare all this evidence and create a defense,
47:41
Speaker 1: this was proof that my mental clarity was leagues above
47:44
Speaker 1: my sister's and that she needed them more. I left
47:46
Speaker 1: after that, went for a ride on my motorbike, stayed
47:49
Speaker 1: out of the house for a couple hours and took
47:51
Speaker 1: a breather. Wow. This is wild. I feel like the
47:54
Speaker 1: only thing you haven't done is a thing I said
47:55
Speaker 1: you should do. And that's like sitting down with her,
47:57
Speaker 1: your sister and the fiance, albeit they probably don't want
48:00
Speaker 1: to be in the same room. But I feel like
48:02
Speaker 1: you need to clear this up. I feel like this
48:03
Speaker 1: is really important. At least get on like a three-way
48:06
Speaker 1: call or something, you know, set up a Zoom meeting.
48:09
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know. But she probably won't
48:11
Speaker 1: believe anything he says either. I don't know. Let's read
48:14
Speaker 1: the comments. Where is your sister's fiance slash ex-fiance in
48:17
Speaker 1: all of this? I want to know what he has
48:18
Speaker 1: to say. OP says from my perspective, he's MIA. I
48:23
Speaker 1: unadded him on social media after the relationship status changed
48:26
Speaker 1: as I felt it was inappropriate to continue to follow
48:28
Speaker 1: my sister's ex. That's very mature of you. I haven't
48:30
Speaker 1: heard much of him after that other than from my
48:33
Speaker 1: sister herself saying she got him to pay the remainder
48:36
Speaker 1: of the rent until the end of their flats lease.
48:39
Speaker 1: Another comment said, something doesn't add up. I mean, how
48:41
Speaker 1: on earth did she randomly choose the same week to
48:43
Speaker 1: go on a trip to the same country with her
48:45
Speaker 1: sister's fiance in the same hotel? Coincidence? Like I said,
48:48
Speaker 1: something feels off given the context. Funny they were staying
48:51
Speaker 1: in the same hotel and never bumped into each other
48:53
Speaker 1: during breakfast or dinner. OP said, I think I've defended
48:56
Speaker 1: myself enough across the past two posts and their respective
48:59
Speaker 1: comment sections, but the breakfast or dinner comment is new.
49:02
Speaker 1: I don't know how often you travel or stay in hotels,
49:04
Speaker 1: but I don't think I've ever been to a hotel dinner. Yeah,
49:07
Speaker 1: that's weird. I eat out when abroad because a hotel
49:09
Speaker 1: restaurant will never give everything right. Yeah, I mean, that's
49:12
Speaker 1: just a, that's stupid. I don't agree with that. Okay,
49:15
Speaker 1: another comment said, I have so many questions that need answers.
49:18
Speaker 1: Why would you have to get HR involved? I didn't, oh, interesting.
49:21
Speaker 1: Do you work together if you were there with your friends?
49:24
Speaker 1: Why haven't your friends also jumped into this? I mean,
49:26
Speaker 1: she said they did. She said they had texts. When
49:28
Speaker 1: you say you hang with your ex, is her fiancee,
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Speaker 1: your ex. Am I missing something or getting something? I
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Speaker 1: think you're just not. You didn't read anything. But OP clarified,
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Speaker 1: someone said I should pressure the ex-fiancé into saying who
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Speaker 1: he was actually cheating with. I said this was a
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Speaker 1: good idea by getting my boyfriend to message him instead,
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Speaker 1: but also mentioned that the ex-fiancé might be hesitant to
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Speaker 1: admit who it was if he was cheating with one
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Speaker 1: of his co-workers. HR gets messy. I see. No, I'm
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Speaker 1: a student. The entire point of trying to get ahead
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Speaker 1: of this was to avoid having everyone and their mothers
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Speaker 1: involved in conspiracy theories, especially not people who live a
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Speaker 1: 13 plus hour flight and seven hours ahead due to
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Speaker 1: time zones. For her fiance is now her ex. Five,
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Speaker 1: definitely I suggest you read the previous, but yeah, this
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Speaker 1: person just didn't read the post. Okay. Oh man, we
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Speaker 1: don't have any more updates. Oh. You know, it'll be
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Speaker 1: what it'll be. Thought that us. You know, that's basically,
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Speaker 1: it is what it is in Icelandic. Little fact, that's
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Speaker 1: the only words I picked up from Iceland. I'm probably
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Speaker 1: saying that wrong too. Any people from Iceland in the comments?
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Speaker 1: Am I saying that wrong? Probably. All you can do
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Speaker 1: is say your piece. I think you have a very
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Speaker 1: emotionally mature boyfriend and I'm happy for you for that.
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Speaker 1: I think you're going out of your way to grab
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Speaker 1: all the evidence and even footage from the hotel and
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Speaker 1: all that. And I just think she's clearly in a
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Speaker 1: very emotional state and not in the right frame of mind.
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Speaker 1: You guys don't have a good relationship. I think this
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Speaker 1: is just a recipe for disaster. Hopefully she can get
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Speaker 1: past it and realize that you're not lying to her.
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Speaker 1: It is a crazy situation. Though I'll give the sister that,
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Speaker 1: that one thing. And, and your parents suck. That, that
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Speaker 1: really sucks. Even though they basically believe you, but they're like,
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Speaker 1: your sister's sad. So we're just going to side with
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Speaker 1: her actually. It's like a way to raise a, just
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Speaker 1: a little baby, a little baby. Who's always a victim.
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Speaker 1: Like that's not, she is a victim in this case
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Speaker 1: because she got cheated on and her whole, you know,
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Speaker 1: future wedding got ruined and all that stuff. But in
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Speaker 1: In terms of them picking her side over yours. I
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Speaker 1: just don't think that's fair. That is a crazy situation though.
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Speaker 1: I would not wish this situation upon anyone I know.
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Speaker 1: That's terrible. Hopefully she comes around. But yeah, this is crazy.
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Speaker 1: What would you guys do? What would you guys do
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Speaker 1: in this situation? I have no idea. This one perplexed me.
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Speaker 1: But that's it for today. I will see you in
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Speaker 1: the next one. All right. Love you. Appreciate you. See ya.