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Ep. 1 You've been a real Bad Bunny · The Group Chat

• speaker-0: okay, yeah, America, all of the different Americas, not just United States. And that's first, mean, that's geography lessons, history. speaker-1: But it's also just the American mindset is like, everything has to be English. I don't understand. if, it's not English, well, I don't want it, but. speaker-2: Speak American. All right. So we're live. Here we are today. Yeah, we're back. Today we'll talk about Benito and how he broke the internet with his Super Bowl halftime performance. What do you guys think? What's that all about? speaker-1: There's a lot going on. A lot going on, but good stuff. speaker-2: Well said. A lot going on. Yeah. speaker-0: layers. speaker-1: Someone's thirsty? speaker-2: You know? When in Rome. speaker-0: There's, it's five o'clock somewhere, you know? speaker-2: Hell yeah it is. I'm let that chill out. So what are our... okay like what was everybody's initial reaction because we all got to react before it even happened. speaker-1: What the f- speaker-0: question first who was actually playing at the Super Bowl? speaker-2: No. speaker-1: The teams. speaker-0: Yeah, just know that. Tell us. ⁓ speaker-2: That's Brandon. Tell us. ⁓ speaker-1: The Seattle Seahawks and a New England Patriots. Okay. And so it's kind of big deal because this was a rematch of what I guess it was maybe, maybe 10 years ago when the Seahawks had, had to do, had Marshawn Lynch, the best running back and they were on the one line, one yard line. And all they to do was run it in and they threw a pass instead and it got intercepted. And it was just kind of like, why would you do that? And so this was like their revenge 10 years later. speaker-2: So, see Hawks 1? speaker-1: See how it's going. ⁓ speaker-2: That's right, because I did hear Jon Stewart saying something about the Patriots losing. He seemed a little happy about it. speaker-1: A lot of people were, people don't like the Patriots. speaker-2: I have no opinion of that anyways. So that's funny that you asked, but a good question. Let's start off with who watched the actually Super Bowl. speaker-0: Yeah, who actually watched it? Because I didn't. I... You know. speaker-1: I watched the first half, I stayed up and I watched the first half and it was rough. It was very rough to watch. speaker-0: what I've heard. I've heard that it was quite boring. speaker-2: Was there just no, no score or low score or what? speaker-1: It was practically in the first half, no offense. think, I don't know, I can't remember, but maybe I think it was nine zero at halftime. Three field ghosts, lots of punts. speaker-2: just surviving off of those commercials at that point. speaker-1: Yeah, I guess. Taking those checks. speaker-2: You know, just like that was for me a lot of times more exciting than the actual game. did love like watching football, of course, growing up, but the commercials just making you laugh, like put all that money into just making people laugh. I was like, they should do this all the time. Why, why only during the Superbowl? Like they should try harder all the time. speaker-1: I think this year it got up to 10 million for 30 seconds. speaker-2: 10 million people watching at one time. speaker-1: No, $10 million. $10 million for a 30 second ad. speaker-2: ⁓ Yo... Together. speaker-0: You gotta have money. speaker-2: I'm not going even go down that road right now. speaker-0: Or the commercials, I didn't see the commercials. speaker-2: I didn't see it. mean, I didn't look for that. That's the thing. speaker-1: Yeah, so this year I didn't bother. speaker-2: We're going to eventually do like a quick search on YouTube top, top Superbowl commercials this year. So it's like that. So benito. speaker-1: Mr. speaker-2: I mean, was it that big of a deal? Like people are making it? speaker-1: Go Paulina. speaker-0: No, no, no, go ahead. You guys can start. I want to use your opinions. I'm curious. I you need more opinion. speaker-1: I enjoyed it. I watched it live because I watched the first half then watched half time then went to bed. It was a good performance. It was I think a very complete performance. He included a lot of sure we'll get into lots of different layers, but I don't know. It was good. I enjoyed it. speaker-2: didn't watch the whole thing, I'll admit it. I didn't watch the whole performance, just saw clips of it. ⁓ yeah. What's that look? speaker-0: Me being taken aback because I I watched her around like six times. speaker-2: Aha, okay, okay, okay. speaker-0: for many different reasons. ⁓ Okay, but no, I mean, I watched it. speaker-2: Say no more! ⁓ speaker-0: Yeah, I mean I watched that I think about two or three times with my partner, with Tony, because when he came back from work on Monday I was like, I to watch this and then I started with my classes and then we didn't have a time to actually discuss it so we watched it once again and then I feel like a few days later we watched it once again he was like, actually enjoyed it. I wouldn't stop singing like my poor Spanish, you know. all the little Benito songs and he was like, okay, we can watch it again. So we actually watched it again. So I watched it three times with him, think three times on my own. So I think that says a lot. actually enjoyed it. speaker-2: So are you gonna show us like the choreographed dance, like the whole thing? You've at least memorized half of it by now. Please tell us. You've got something. Show us the move. speaker-0: I can sort of do the Lady Gaga hands, you know? Whatever was happening there. speaker-2: Hahaha speaker-1: I know what you're talking about. speaker-0: Lady Gaga, Guadalupe. No, I mean, it was good. enjoyed it. think there are a lot of different layers of Brendan said. I think we're going to get to that. There are so many things, so many little details that I felt like it was really actually complete. speaker-2: Cool. That's something I do like about, well, cause I mean, Kendrick's was last year, wasn't it? Yeah. So that also had some layers to it as well. And there was always like, always a message, you know, with Kendrick, of course, now with Bad Bunny. I mean, I can't speak to like all the past halftime performances, but you know, there's this like political undertone as well as like, ⁓ you know, we're all one, we're all one. people on America, which I think is cool. Like I'm all for the inclusion. I'm all for that, but maybe you guys can tell me a little bit more about what I missed. speaker-1: I think what you just said at the end about all been one America, that was for me, that was my favorite part of the performance at the end. When he called out, ⁓ all the different countries, well, the majority of the country, I think he missed a couple, but all of the different countries that are included in the Americas and saying they're showing that that unity that we're all one, even though everything is growing, going all the fighting back and forth. And it seems that we're definitely not one. That's what he was striving for trying to get across to. to everyone. speaker-0: Yeah. I think that was a really good message because I feel like, unfortunately, from what I have seen, mean, growing up in the States, I also seen how the education system in the States is. when it comes to history, it's very, maybe I don't like to say it, but I feel like very often it gets a little bit whitewashed. And I feel like we very often forget that like America is not just United States. Like you have North America, Central and South America. And I feel like everywhere else you go, they actually make that, you know, distinction. It's like, yeah, it's three, so to say, separate places. You know, you have the North, the Central and the South. But when you talk to typical Americans, not always, but very often they say like, ⁓ we're Americans. It's like, yes, but what does it mean? Like, What do you mean by American? Like from United States or from Canada or from Panama or from where? You know? speaker-2: True, true. And it's just so well known now, like, here they call us those Samaritanos and we know they're talking about us from the US. Like it's just built in, like, you said, but then some people are kind of offended by that. Like, well, we're American too. Right? Like you said, I mean, Yeah. I mean, I, I liked that he, like you said, he called out the countries. think the message is great. I just, I feel, mean, I guess the overwhelming emotion is a bit frustrated, sad, be that everything kind of has to have a political undertone. There always has to be some kind of motivation politically. like, you, can't help but wonder like how much of his appearance on the halftime, you know, during a halftime performance, how much was set up and then, you know, just to put him there. Like, is that just putting him there, the statement alone? And then what of course he actually promoted like, yes, those are all beautiful things and one America. And, you know, we need to hear these compassionate words, especially in a time of so much division, when we have a leader who doesn't, who doesn't speak to us on even remotely close to a level like that. And you know, hate is music, love is music, whatever you want to say, but like at least he comes out there with love. mean, he's preaching love. So good on in for that. speaker-1: also want to say that I'm trying to, I'm looking at a list. I have a list here of the previous performers and I don't remember any of the other ones except for obviously last year with Kindred, have any type of political undertones. It doesn't seem familiar. I think it's something that happened last year and this year. Once again, based on everything that was happening at the time. And I know, wait, cause we just have to wait to see next year if it continues. speaker-2: Hmph. It's like a sign of the times. speaker-0: I'm curious who's going to perform at the Super Bowl next year. speaker-1: I feel sorry for him, whoever it is I feel sorry for him because ⁓ after last year and this year the ceiling is pretty high. speaker-2: You almost feel like you have to make a statement. It's not just go out there and sing your songs. I just want to do my art, No, make your art political, please. We need it. speaker-0: ⁓ and with that, I ⁓ I mean, with that also, I mean, they also invited green day. don't know if you guys watched that as well. speaker-2: Feel the... speaker-1: heard about that and see, I didn't see the performance. speaker-0: ⁓ It wasn't like a big deal, know, I what I found funny is, you know, that like they wanted a white artist, you know, like, ⁓ we want a white artist, blah, blah, blah, somebody that is American and, you know, from the US or whatever. then like, yeah, here you go. You have a green day, you know, which ⁓ is very political. I mean, it's a type of band. speaker-2: So anti-establishment... speaker-0: They, they bleeped them as well because they said the F word, you know, and they said F America and they bleeped that out. So, but it's part of the song. It's in their song. has been in their song since, well, I don't know, the nineties. So it's like, well, are they trying to make a political statement? They could have gone a lot further knowing Green Day, knowing the things that they have done. Even last year, think at Coachella, they could have gone lot further. But they didn't. And some people are pissed off that they didn't because they're like, ⁓ my God, it's green day. Why they didn't do it, blah, blah, blah. And other people are like, well, at the same time you get Benito Bowl. And I think that also ruffled, I mean, that ruffled a lot of feathers, you know, they're just. It's like there needs to be that, like there was a balance there. speaker-2: I mean, in general, I like green day. mean, I would say I love green day, you know, since dookie before, but, ⁓ the whole fuck America thing, not for that. Now whatsoever. I mean, there's like, you can't just make a statement like that, which we know is not aimed at, you know, to hell with America, which one could imply from fuck America. It means fuck the establishment that is. deciding and, you know, enforcing this fake power on weak people or whatever they're kind of getting at, you know? Um, cause there is that like, they're poking it, you know, poking it. And I don't, I don't think like, I think you can do better. I think you can write some, you know, pretty master, masterful lyrics and put together something more artful, but I'd still like, I get what they're saying. And yeah, to that extent, yeah, fuck what's going on. Fuck this, you know. oligarchy, whatever you want to call it, like situation we have going on where the rich control everything and they know nothing about ⁓ what it means to be, you know, an everyday average American, I guess. Yeah. Like. speaker-1: Normal citizen. speaker-2: Yeah, the beard got bigger. know what you're saying, speaker-0: Yeah, I mean, just think that, you know, like, I'm a big fan of Green Day, but I do think like, you know, they're not going to change their lyrics for the performance, you know, it is part of their lyrics. And yeah, they could have easily omitted that. But when you're an artist and you sing the song for, you know, so many years, the way that you sing it, you're not going to try to censor yourself just because you want to censor yourself because it's a super bowl, you know? So I sort of get their point of view, but I also see what you're saying, Carson, that it is like poking it, you know? But I think it could have gone further. I think if they really wanted to go down that route, they easily could have gone down that route. speaker-1: But what do think, do you think it was necessary that they should have done that? Or as, as fine as it is or as it was, the performance. speaker-0: personally think it's fine as it was. mean, the fact that it was Green Day that was chosen, I think that already is enough of a statement. ⁓ And that they didn't need to do more, but a lot of people will disagree with that. They will think like, ⁓ they should have done more. Like they always spoke about F this, F that, whatever, screw the system, like fuck the system, whatever. like, I don't think that it was... necessary because their statement of them being there was enough. speaker-2: Yeah. So that kind of makes me feel or brings up the idea that ⁓ who's choosing these artists? Are these all leftists? Are these all Democrats? Are these all liberals? It makes you speaker-1: Do you know who runs it? speaker-2: Who runs it? speaker-1: Do know Paulina? speaker-0: I think so. Isn't it like Jay-Z? it like Rock Nation? speaker-1: Yeah. Yeah. Since 2019, they've been in charge. So prior to 2019, it was actually the NFL. They had a, they were up to, they were, they made the decision of who was going to be the halftime show. And then in 2019, ⁓ they signed Roc Nation as I guess the head of the Superbowl halftime show and they've been running it since. speaker-0: You speaker-1: So it's Mr. Carter who made the decision. speaker-0: Which also makes me question. I don't know if I want to go down that rabbit hole, but screw it. It goes along with the whole thing of like Epstein files. I know we're planning to talk about that either way like one day, but wasn't his name also in Epstein files? And all of that happened during the same time as like the Super Bowl. And I was thinking, I wonder if he chose. the people that he chose in order to do some sort of cover-up. I mean, it's my own little crazy conspiracy theory, but I was thinking, I wonder if the choices that he has made to choose these specific artists was for a specific reason. speaker-2: That's what it's feeling like now. Every little decision, every little performance, everything is hinging on, what's the political motive? But who needs this to happen? And who is trying to say what? Well, we know what you're trying to say. You're trying to say, team is better than yours. But it's just, yeah. speaker-0: I mean, I could be completely wrong, you know? Like, it doesn't have to be that way. It's my little theory, you know? speaker-2: but you're not alone in thinking that and or something something in the ballpark of what you're thinking. It's definitely I mean, it's all in our minds, I think. speaker-0: Do you guys think that Benito was the right choice for the Super Bowl for this year? speaker-1: I so. I'm not sure. I can't remember when they announced who was going to be the reformer. I imagine it was a few months ago at least. But I it was planned. Seeing how everything was going on, especially in the United States, it's like, all right, well, let's do this. Add a little bit of fire to the situation. speaker-2: had to be, I don't know, man. I personally don't have too much, I don't have too strong of an opinion either way. don't listen to his music. I will say this, I don't want to step on anybody's toes, making anybody upset. But, ⁓ I think there are probably other artists who might've deserved the spotlight more, but I think just his recent, ⁓ you know, I wouldn't say rise to fame because he's been famous for a minute, but at least in the United States, it seems like he's getting way more, way more ⁓ screen time, right? Way more coverage. ⁓ So it definitely feels like, like Brandon said, planned, you know, there, this was kind of in the works for a minute and maybe even getting him so popular in the United States, just to kind of help him with the backing for this performance. So that like, I don't know, the fallout could be better or. The message could be exactly what they wanted it to be. Something like that. speaker-0: And who do you think could have been a better performer for this halftime show? speaker-2: You're asking me. speaker-0: Yeah, because you said I think they're funny but I have been a better- speaker-1: It's putting you on the spot. speaker-0: You speaker-2: I mean, I don't know what you're thinking, but Senorita Benito, bad bunny boy. I mean, it was not nice what you did. like, ⁓ why do we even care what his opinion is? It just blows my mind. I'm like, I'm looking into this and it's like, Trump said that it was terrible and one of the worst ever. Probably one of the worst ever. And I'm like, and you? think you could do better? who do you? Yeah. So I don't think Trump liked it very much. I'm just going to throw that out there. mean, maybe, maybe he was jamming with his buddies doing the, who knows? Who knows what really went on in his house, but. No, I can't think of anybody better. Just because I'm not really, I'm not in the music scene. I'm not like checking out the latest artists in the U.S. I kind of listen to a mix of genres. So I'm not, I'm not on that. But he did win the Grammy. We can't, we can't go, I don't think it's good to go on without talking about the Grammy. He won what? The best urban album? speaker-0: I you like of them. speaker-1: Yeah, I'm sure. speaker-2: Sure. So good for him. Awesome. like, then he said, ⁓ ice out was his opening statement when he got the Grammy ice out first thing. So brought the Epstein files and I'm to bring up ice. ⁓ so like, we take what he said when we take what, ⁓ Billy Eilish said, right? There's no, nobody's illegal on stolen land. Yeah. Right, that type of shit. I'm just going to call it shit because to me that's what it is. It's, ⁓ I don't know how y'all feel about celebrities making political statements. To me, it seems inappropriate. What do you say? speaker-0: Go ahead. speaker-1: Once again, they have the platform, they have the ears, they're going to use it to, whatever they want to say, they're going to use their power to get their thoughts and feelings across. And more people are going to hear it than as normal people. speaker-0: Yeah, that's right. speaker-1: I don't know if it's good or bad, it's, mean, you're a celebrity. So as part of your life as a celebrity, you have that power and people are going to listen to you. speaker-0: Yeah, that's how I see it. Like that they have the voice, you know, technically it's, they have the platform and we're, over here recording. also, you know, are doing our little talk and whatever, and we can state our opinions and who's going to listen to this, you know, like five people, let's say. ⁓ but you're a celebrity. speaker-1: One, two, speaker-0: ⁓ But in all reality, yeah, they have the platform. think this goes also into this idea of freedom of speech, right? We're all sort of technically allowed to say what we want to and but at the same time of yeah, where is the line? Should we draw a line? know, they sort of censor themselves out because they're celebrities? know, and celebrities the same way. mean, like speaker-1: Six. speaker-0: They switch sides. They can switch sides just like any human being, you know? I don't know, Billie Eilish right now might be saying, you know, the whole thing about stolen land, whatever. And I don't know, 10 years, 20 years from now, she might have a completely different opinion. And that might come back and buy her an ass. it's, we're humans. I think we're allowed to sort of say what's on our minds. So I think sort of like similar to Brandon, like if they have the platform and they want to say what they want to say, I don't see why not. ⁓ For sure. speaker-2: Yeah, I wouldn't, I wouldn't ever try to tell anybody what they can and cannot say. That's not at all what I'm getting at, but I hear you. And it does make sense. Like Brandon and Paulina, like you said, ⁓ they have the platform, they have the reach. People are going to listen. They're following them. They're hanging on every word, which is where I feel it's a bit reckless. I mean, I feel like it's a bit more like you're kind of influencing side choosing. ⁓ when you, when you support something like that, when you hear that it's just more. You're being exposed to it more because we all follow who we follow. like what we like, you know, the echo chamber, not to be part of the echo chamber by saying echo chamber, but that's what it kind of becomes. It's like, okay, well, Billy Eilish said this and I agree with that without really knowing the full context. I think especially as a young person, you don't really have the full grasp of exactly how complicated this, you know, immigration situation is. So that's where I worry a little bit about it. I mean, even here, I think we were watching Ormiguero and ⁓ Antonio Banderas was, ⁓ was on there and he was saying his spiel and it got a little political. I mean, from what I could understand. ⁓ but, ⁓ and I, and I love that guy and I love, know, how he gets to it. I mean, he feels like it feels like you listen to somebody he's connecting with you on a level, maybe a friend would like, he's just being real and that you get that you hear that. And so it's really intoxicating when you hear somebody who is able to express themselves, you know, naturally, especially on camera. And you already love what they do as an artist. so then you like, wow, you know what, that really hits home with me. That really resonates. But then, you know, what about people on the other side? Like, then you just, I mean, tough titties, I'm sorry, but like at the same time, but I think we just got to, like, I think you should focus on your art. think you should talk about what it brought out in you as an individual, the performance, having the ability to speak. Thank you for this Grammy. Thank you for all the, you know, I appreciate it. I've worked really hard to make people happy and connect with me through my music. Again, there's just so much more to say that if you're not lazy about it and you're not taking that political sound by it and just taking the low-hanging fruit, I think, like it's so easy to like get people to clap when you say, fuck ice or ice out, because you know that most people are like, don't know the full theme or, and you know how I feel too about it. I mean, I don't think they're handling it the right way, but like, okay. Like, you doing it for the likes? Are you doing it for the people who got you to this point so you can get this award on this stage? You feel like you owe them one by calling out to a party, by choosing a side, choosing a team? I don't know. That's kind of how I feel. Like you were talking about, you know, the ⁓ conspiracy theory type shit. Yeah, maybe that's my conspiracy theory. Maybe that's how I feel about celebrities speaking out about the shit. Like I hate that they have to. And I think the saddest thing and the hardest thing to face is that They do feel they have to. do have this reach, like he said, and you can't blame them. And I don't blame them for it. I just, when I see it, it makes me kind of roll my eyes. Like I don't, try not to take it too much to heart, even though I may fully agree with what they're saying. Just kind of like, yeah, but who are you to say? speaker-0: Yeah, I think I understand where you're getting at with, are they doing this because they want to get likes, they want to be liked? Do they want to target a specific type of audience? Or is it because that's how they feel and they have the platform and they actually want to speak up about the issues? And those are two separate things. mean, if you actually feel strongly about it, then... do something else about it than instead of just saying like, fuck ice on TV, you know? speaker-2: It's your five seconds. Like, you're gonna spend five seconds getting political? speaker-0: I this is nothing new though. speaker-1: It's always been going on. But it's also something that we'll never know because we don't know them personally. So we don't know if this is their persona or they put it on a front or anything. It's only for, well, they know when the people close to them actually really know. speaker-2: Yeah, because in that same vein, was thinking like, yeah, mean, start a movement. mean, celebrities get into certain things, whether it's like environmental causes, they get into that, right? They do that on their own. It becomes this larger movement other than just a 30 second, like, this is the team I like and they're doing this right. And the other one's doing it wrong. For me, it's like, if you really want to get into like the heart of it, then get into the heart of it. You have the resources. ⁓ but anyways, it's not that big of a deal. It's just something that makes you think, makes you wonder. Right? Like it doesn't bother me that much, but at the same time, it kind of, it's kind of becoming this thing like, well, let's just say it is sad that we don't have a leader who can speak to us compassionately. And these celebrities feel like they have to say something. speaker-1: Yeah, that's more the problem that celebrities are the people that we look up to, unfortunately, and it's like, there's celebrity that is like no one special is their artists and everything, but they're not making the decisions. They're not making the laws and not doing anything, but they're the ones with the power to try to convince people to do one thing or the other. speaker-0: But you know, when we take a look back at like history, this is not the first time, know, there are artists that are speaking out about what is happening politically, you know, I mean, this is, this is not something that is new and it doesn't matter whether we have a democratic or a Republican and you know, in the White House, there will always be people that don't agree with one side or the other and there will be always artists, celebrities, whatever, that will speak up about what is happening. speaker-1: Definitely. speaker-0: because it bothers them or they have the platform or whatever the reason is, you know. speaker-2: Yeah. speaker-0: It's just now, sorry, now with social media, feel like we're so coming back to our previous topic now, like with all the social media, we see it all the time. So back in the days, like, I don't know, it be broadcasted on TV. If you had a TV, great, you know, you would hear about it. But now it's like you open Instagram, open TikTok, you open whatever, and it's there. It's right there in your face. So. Sorry Carson, you were going to say something. no, no. speaker-2: No, I'm chewing it over ⁓ what I was thinking before because I mean, no, you're totally right. And there is a place for that. there's also like, There's an intersection of art and politics within society. And there's kind of like You know, just because more artists are probably on the left. And of course they're more eager to speak out against the current government. Right. And it seems like the left is always so eager and always so quick to put the celebrities there and say, Hey, look, our celebrities support our party. So he must be doing the right thing here. And it's like, all right. Yeah. mean, believe me, if I had to be. Like where I lean politically? Center left. Definitely more liberal than conservative, but... ⁓ Don't really know how I feel. Just kind of makes me go, hmm. That's weird. speaker-0: There's a lot to think about, speaker-2: It's like, is your art your politics or your politics your art? Like, do you think you could do better? Then say what you would do better instead of talking down to the other side or talking down about what's going on. Why don't you suggest something productive? I mean, if you're going to, like you said, use your. Platform. Use your image, use your platform. Exactly. But I don't know how that went down that road so far. speaker-0: And you put me back half of that. speaker-2: ⁓ speaker-1: That's a whole different road to go down. speaker-0: Something that sort of frustrates me is that a lot of these, not all of them, but for example, I don't know what's the upbringing of Billie Eilish. you know, I don't know, like she's what? Just simply from the United States. She's not, I don't know. I don't really listen to her. Is the idea of like, yeah, okay. So she's speaking up. I mean, that definitely shows, you know, this idea of white privilege that she can actually speak up about this and not get a ton of shit about it. ⁓ but then like, This idea of like all the other voices that, know, of people who speak up, you know, that come from immigrant families, you know, that actually made it that I don't know, come from Latin America or I don't know, some places in Europe and their family moved to the States within the last, I don't know, 80 or 70 or 50 years. Like this whole idea of like, okay, and they actually know the struggle. You know, ⁓ but very often they feel scared to also speak up because it's this, well, maybe our voice won't count as much because we don't have that sort of say same privilege, you know? So now with like Benito, I feel like that sort of like open up a big like kind of warning of like, ⁓ my God. And there is this artist who technically, I mean, he is an American citizen. I mean, he's from Puerto Rico. but at the same time, I mean, he grew up in Puerto Rico. So it like, there is a whole bunch of layers to this, you know, of like, okay, well, yeah, the idea of like privilege of the idea of speaking up of the politics and all of that. And it's, I don't know, that's something that I have been thinking about. speaker-1: I think in the end, that's the whole, like the best thing about the United States is like, it doesn't matter if you're an immigrant or if you're born there, if your family's been there for hundreds of years. It's like, you still have that, that pride of being American or been there, being successful, not successful, but being able to do whatever it is you want. Like, unfortunately, like the whole idea of the American dream is kind of gone, but you still have that hope of being able to, you have that opportunity to do whatever you want. If you want to do it and put it into work, you can do it. And it didn't, doesn't matter if you were born there or if it's you've only been there for a year or if your parents migrated there five years ago. It's like, you can do whatever you speaker-2: For sure. No, this is where I love the fact, just the simple fact that he performed is that it's a reminder. We're all immigrants. That's what our country is. You know, we, came from all different places. mean, my immigrants came from Hungary. My immigrants came from other Northern European countries. And I mean, you can find the records. It's not like, ⁓ he said, she said, no, this is real shit. And it's true for all Americans, right? Some of us have been there. longer. Some of us are whatever, but like, that's what makes America so great. And it's kind of like a call for help or a call to action. Like, let's not lose ourselves with these deportations. Like, let's maintain some kind of civility here. Like, let's do, let's offer these immigrants due process. Let's actually do this right. You know, let's strategically figure out what we can do to solve the problem of immigration and get the bad people out. deserve to be here and don't have the papers, don't have the documentation. That's one thing, but then asking people on the way to Walmart, you where they're from is not the way to do it. know, showing up and speaker-1: or not even asking, just straight taking them. speaker-2: straight take it in, you know, take first, ask questions later. It's not how should be. It's not how it goes. And that's what that's what all this is about, I think. And that's where it's like, yes, give me a bad bunny. Even though I don't listen to his music, give me a bad bunny every day of the week until people start realizing like, hey, doesn't matter where you're from. It matters if you are supposed to be here or not. And if you want to be here, if you're supposed to be here, then Brandon, like you said, opportunities, you can do it. If you do it the right way, you can do it in America. And that's why, that's why we're famous. That's why we're powerful. That's why we're famous. Right. We have this idea. I think I saw Bono from YouTube, right? He was talking about the idea. The idea of America is the powerful thing. And I'll just, I'll send it y'all later, but like what he said was like, man, that really, that feels good. And I think that's what, that's like the feeling that you have as an American when you're, when you're with your people and you realize like all these people came from different backgrounds. I don't know how we got here. And we're kind of in that situation here in Spain, like, is wild, right? Which is wild. that's, but it is that there, isn't it? It's like, ⁓ what city are from? Okay. Where are your family from? And like, okay, then you always know somebody like, I mean, we all have friends are like 10 different ethnicities. Like that's America. We're multicultural. We're from everywhere. We love everybody. say, yes, you have a chance here. You can come. We'll protect you. We'll protect you. All right. I'm done. speaker-0: We're getting sidetracked here, but yeah, no, you're right. I mean, I think it's important to talk about if, you know, in this aspect of our argument, to be talking about beneath the bowl and all of that, you know, in the performance. I think all of those layers are so important. Sorry, Brendan, go ahead. speaker-1: I was just going to say that I think what I, what I really liked about the performance also is the fact that with everything is so negative, everything in the news is always just negative, especially in the past, what two months with ICE and everything in journals with, ⁓ with the immigrants, it's all negative. And then you see his performance and it was, what was it, a 13 minute performance, but it was like a nonstop party. And you just see like how the Latin community. Just no matter what situation there is, they turn into a party. And I don't know if you all have any Latin friends, but I mean, that's how it is. And where you especially probably have been in New York, well, you've seen it all. But that's what I like a lot about the performance. Something positive to say, well, this is who we are. No matter what's going on, we're going to be happy. We're going to party. We're going to dance. We're going to have some good food. Someone might get married. It's all good. speaker-0: Someone might get married. I love it. You guys know that was an actual real marriage. speaker-1: Yeah. speaker-2: ⁓ what a memory. That's great. speaker-0: I would have said yes. mean, there's a whole bunch of comments, you know, it's like, how the hell did this girl actually say yes, you know, when there's bad bunny right there? It's like, I don't know if I would have said yes. I'm they'd leave that out, Tony can't hear this. ⁓ No, I'm joking. Just a little bit. ⁓ speaker-1: True love. speaker-0: No, but it's true, right? There was this whole idea of like, it was a party, like, he didn't give us a performance, he gave us a 13 minute party, you know? speaker-2: Then I mean, I'm all for it. Of course. I would have been dancing, even though it's not my music. Like it did look like a party. Like what I saw looked like a party. And I mean, well, seeing people on social media, like filming the crowd, like just standing there, I'm just like, okay, like it's not everybody's jam, but you know, he's still having fun out there and people are enjoying it. And you know, people are there dancing. It's like you just cause you film 50 people, not dancing. mean, come on. speaker-1: You also have to think about seeing that performance actually been there in the stadium is a lot different than us watching it on TV. Cause in the stadium, I don't know, it was in Levi's stadium, San Fran, I don't know how many people, but say was, I don't know, 80 or 90,000 people. And it's a small, in reality, it's in the middle of the field and it's a very small, small area to perform. So it's not going to be the same that what we see here at home on TV as being in the top section in there and just seeing like someone walking around in circles with a white suit on. Like you can't really see what they're doing or taking it in. I being at home, had a much better, a much better show than majority of people probably in the stadium and a lot cheaper. speaker-2: Definitely. Yes. Yes. ⁓ speaker-0: No, I really enjoyed it. And I also really liked the fact that like, he put so many little cultural aspects there, you know, it wasn't just that it was a party, that aspect, wonderful, you know, but I honestly cried the first time I watched it. Because as Brandon said, I mean, I grew up with a lot of Latinos, I grew up a lot with a lot of Puerto Ricans, Dominicans with Puerto Rican Dominicans mixed together, you know, in New York, you sort of go to the heights and that's that, like, you know, you hang out with all of them. And I sort of saw that, you know, like, summer is in New York. I mean, he even has a whole song about it, you know, and it's like, and it's true, it's all of it is true. And I honestly cry because there are a lot of moments that sort of like hit home for me, you know, even though like, I'm a little, you know, Polish girl, you know, that moved to New York, but For example, the kid that was sleeping on the chairs, yeah, they say, ⁓ it's a very Latino thing. I'm like, yeah, well, I remember going to weddings and I was sleeping on the chairs, you know? So I don't know if like that happens in the United States. I don't know if you guys have also experienced that, but I saw it as like almost like a unity that kids get tired, you know, kids go to parties and very often like the parents are like, well, just sleep it off over there. Like, we're not going to drive you home now. So. I saw it as like a very beautiful like a little detail, you know? speaker-2: Sure. speaker-0: and if you ever speaker-2: I mean, I think I feel like I've seen kids sleeping on chairs everywhere I've been. I mean, it's a totally normal thing for a kid to do. mean, it's totally normal for the kid to act like a lunatic as well. And then all of sudden crash and just sleep on a chair. I bend toward the chair. I find, do it. You're a kid. mean, we should normalize that shit. We should be doing that as adults. I get tired. I'm gonna sleep in this chair. Chill out. Don't bother me. speaker-1: I think speaker-0: And I think that's also that was beautiful, you know, that's what that was a thing that was really nice. I actually like combine not just like the culture of like the American Republic or Puerto Rico or Latin America in general, like a lot of people can sort of relate to that, you know, showing once again that sort of idea of unity where it feels like right now everything and everybody is just so divided. speaker-1: Very decisive. Trying to bring us together show that we're not so different after all. speaker-2: That's the right message for sure. Yeah, regardless of your political opinions, regardless of how politically motivated it felt to some people. It's just, you know, we're connected. Find a way to make sense of how we're all one people, please. Okay. Like, and he did that and that's what the performance was. So I have no qualms. All good. Bad Bunny. I feel funny saying his name, I don't know why, Bad Bunny. You've been a real bad bunny. speaker-0: He's been eaten for all of us. Um, yeah, Carson, but you know, it sort of brings up this question that, yeah, if we're all technically so united, why was there a necessity to do another halftime show, an all-American halftime show? Right? It's this, that, you know, like, I understand, like, you know, for us, like, we like the Bad Bunny show, you know, we're all about this idea of unity and whatever, but there are people that didn't feel that. And they're like, okay, yeah, we're, we're going to watch the All American Halftime Show, which also the name All American Halftime Show, okay. ⁓ Which goes against technically what Bad Bunny was doing completely. speaker-1: It's the reality of the situat- the current situation. We are a decisive nation. Everyone's either on this side or that side. There's no communications. No, let's meet in the middle. Let's try and this out. It's either you're this or you're that. And that's it. speaker-2: I think it was just an overreaction or an attempt at an overreaction even though well what so that didn't they also have Kid Rock playing it was Kid Rock Kid Rock and Green Day it was both of them speaker-0: No, Green Day was at the other room. speaker-2: So Kid Rock was like a separate thing, like we're gonna have our own Super Bowl party. Is that what it was? speaker-1: Yeah, he was the headliner. I don't know. speaker-0: other less important people, which I don't even know their names. ⁓ Well, important maybe for others. Let's not, you know, but not for me. Let's put it this way. I don't know who they were. speaker-2: I think it was just an overreaction from the, from the right. think the right felt attacked by just the fact that he was going to perform bad bunny that is. And then so like that, what was the overreaction? Oh, hell no. We're going to do our own. We're going to do the all American. We're going to make it so nationalist and so right. And it's like, I don't know if that was exactly the motivation of the left to have him there. Granted, he is definitely leaning left that bad bunny. mean, that bunny, don't know which way he made, but you know what I mean? Um, and then. So yeah, can you blame them? Like Brandon said, like that's just the world in which we live. Like that's how it is. People are divided. And it's like, say, you say this, even though you say it out of love, it seems a little political. So we're going to do our own thing in retaliation. It's like, you don't have to be so defensive because it actually makes you look weaker when you get defensive. Like when you react like that, it just takes away from the power that you maybe had before. But now it's like, now you just look stupid. You know, just let it be, it's fucking super help. Super half time. let's, not overthink those here. Okay. speaker-0: Yeah. Brandon, thoughts, opinions? speaker-2: No. speaker-1: No, I was thinking of something else. I was thinking about how. Do you think that this performance actually represents the United States? Cause in reality, I think what in the United States, there's probably, I think 60 million Spanish speakers and that is only growing. And I think it's something that, well, it's possibly like, this is the reality of the situation. Like the United States is pretty, pretty heavy when it comes to the, to the Latin community. And this is something that is probably going to be or should be more normal to hear people speak in Spanish that have performances like this and for everyone to see it because they are a large part of what it makes up the United States. And I think it's a large part of the actual culture that we have that's so mixed and so, like I said before, kind of universal is part of the Latin culture. speaker-0: I think there are so many super halftime shows that were just in English and you know, like we had Michael Jackson, we had Justin Timberlake, like we had Prince, right? Like we had Eminem up on stage with what's his name, Dr. Dre. Like we have so many people that were like technically, you know, all American, so to say, performers and the one time that they do something that is out of the norm, there is like, as Carson says, it's like, oh, it doesn't really make you look very strong, you know, and like your reaction to it. I was like, oh my God, is this a joke? Like the first time I saw news about it that there was going to be another halftime show, was like, no, this is, I'm like, this can't be true. Like this never happened. And I was like, oh my God, wait, this is, this is for real. Like this is happening. speaker-2: Yeah. I mean, you the nail on the head. Like this represents a huge demographic. mean, we all know, I don't know, 15, 20, 30, 50 people who speak Spanish or from South America, from Central America, from Mexico. Like we all know somebody and yeah. So they had to assimilate. They had to learn English. They guess what? They did it. Okay. They did it and they live here and we can represent their culture too, from time to time. And we can celebrate them. and give them a little bit of Spanish. It's like, don't have to understand every word. Granted, even in English, you think everybody understands every single word they're saying in English? You think I was like, ⁓ Kendrick, thank you for elaborating. Come on. yeah, I mean, the language, absolutely. ⁓ Like, I will set power to the people. Like, but seriously, they represent us. That was last year. That's them, right? speaker-1: I do have to say that, sorry. have a, I have a minor in Spanish. I've been living in Spain for almost two decades and I didn't understand the performance. didn't understand it. No, didn't say that to other people. They're like, what are you saying? I was like, I don't know. I don't understand. It's the whole, the whole mumble rap or mumble singing, whatever he's doing. speaker-2: I feel better now that Yeah. speaker-0: I speaker-2: I know you know. know you know. I know you know. Tell us everything he said. speaker-0: Sorry. I think it's just like the fact that like growing up in New York, like that's all you hear. And like, I feel like there were days where I would hear actually more Spanish than English, you know, and it's like, it's wild because it's the idea of like, yeah, like, but they're not being represented, right? And now like the one time that they are, there's this whole backlash, you know, and I don't know, I was just quite frustrated about the whole thing with that was happening, you know, and everyone sort of just like everything was going up in flames and I was like, guys, literally like he's actually showing businesses, you know, like one of the businesses of ⁓ like I said, the, the Donita or something like that with the drinks. That's actually a business. It was a hurt. It's a business. It's a legit business in Brooklyn. Like he's actually not just okay, representing his people, but also trying to help people that are having been to that have made it. You know, they did it. They open up their businesses and they keep doing it. And it's like, and you're going to be mad about that. Like, you're going to be mad about like, I don't know, a 70 something year old lady that is running a business in Brooklyn. speaker-2: You know you eat there. speaker-0: Come on. speaker-2: It's like, you know, I know you're right and you're conservative, but like we both eat there and we're both like, damn, this is good. Come on. speaker-0: But another point I sort of want to make, ⁓ my God, I'm speaking a lot today, but you guys knew that this would happen. speaker-2: Last time I was Mr. Chatterbox. ⁓ speaker-1: Don't fly. speaker-0: ⁓ but no, mean, there is a lot of complaints about the language that it's in Spanish or whatever, but you guys have watched Eurovision like every year there is Eurovision. We have it here in Europe and we have to hear people singing in, I don't know, Swedish and German and Italian and French and and whatever. And nobody is complaining. we're all like, Great, that sounds good. I will be singing this, don't know Portuguese, you know? ⁓ speaker-2: True, true, good, yeah. speaker-1: Good. it's also just the American mindset. It's like, ⁓ everything has to be English. I don't understand. if, it's not English, well, I don't want it, but. speaker-2: speak American. ⁓ speaker-1: Exactly. speaker-0: I I think the first step there is to fix the education system. ⁓ Because also, mean, with the budget cuts and everything else, I mean, if you actually have proper Spanish classes, then maybe some people wouldn't be complaining about it so much, you know, like if you actually learn about culture and everything else. speaker-1: had good Spanish teachers. Much props to all my Spanish teachers in high school and university. They were quality. speaker-2: There you go. speaker-0: Yes. speaker-1: I imagine one or a few, but I have to admit that I've been, I was very lucky with that. And that's part of reason why I'm here because I had that interest. It created that interest in the language for me and I came here and well, I've been here ever since, but thanks in part to my teachers. speaker-0: I know, I get that. So have I, you know, and I had a lot of good French teachers when I was in university as well, but now I feel like a lot of those things are getting worse, know, like for many reasons, you know, not just the education, that the education system sucks, but there are many different things that we can, you know, go down a whole rabbit hole with that. But I do think like, If that doesn't also get fixed, then how are we going to actually have the education to understand that, okay, well, America, all of the different Americas, not just United States. And that's first, mean, that's geography lessons, history. And if that, let's say, gets cut out of the syllabus or the language classes get cut down, speaker-2: So that's it. mean, it's just like, if it's not important, if you don't need it, people are like, well, I can do without it. I can focus on my major. can focus on size. I can focus on humanities, whatever, blah, blah, blah. like, you know, I hate to say that unless there's ⁓ a real need in the work, in the workforce, like for you to know language, for you to know a different language, whether it's Spanish or French or Italian, like, yes, they should. Like be more open. People should be more motivated for the sake of understanding more about the culture that's so close to them. That's a part of the same, you know, landmass, but ⁓ it's just, kind of treat it more like it looks good to know a language, but you don't really need it. So a lot of people do study Spanish. A lot of people at least do the high school two years. Um, maybe they do a little bit in college, but like it then becomes a non-interest because you're so focused on your job and then your job you speak what? English. And we're not, you know, we're not working so well in cooperation with a lot of South American, Central American companies. So it's like, unfortunately, if you don't need it, how do we force people to, well, how do, how not to force them, but like, how do we encourage them that it's important to learn? But not just language, of course, we know that we can sit here and talk about education system, which we'll have to revisit one day because as teachers here, we've, we know what that's. Yeah. But yeah, I would love to see more Americans speaking Spanish. It'd be really cool. speaker-1: to talk about. speaker-0: Yeah. I mean, yeah, they go down to, I don't know, to Mexico for vacation and they order un service, por favor, you know, with like the worst accent. Like, I mean, I get it. You don't need to speak every single language in the world, but how can you expect a person that is coming on vacation to the States, you know, to speak perfect English as well? It's like sort of, you know, have a little bit of an understanding. ⁓ I know that English technically is more of a global language, international, everyone so to say technically should speak English, but I mean, who said that? Who invented that everyone needs to speak English? Why is it not Spanish? Why is it not Chinese? I don't know. ⁓ speaker-1: for now. speaker-2: You gotta you gotta rule the world first. Yeah speaker-1: But it is In the U S I remember when I was, when I was in university and doing internships and looking for jobs, they do lots of jobs offer you a higher salary if you speak another language. So I remember I, I had an internship with a, with a company that I got because I spoke Spanish. Like I was actually working in the Spanish department when I was there. And so that exists. You actually get paid for, get paid more for having that ability. And I know other people, my, neighbor in the U S his. His son was actually learning Russian and the job possibilities that he had because of knowing Russian were, were limitless and like quality jobs, good stuff. It's like, so if you put in the effort and you go out, well, especially in the United States, it could work out in your favor, but it's not something that they push very much or at all. The whole need to learn another language. speaker-2: I mean speaker-1: It was just like an extra class. like, I'll go to class, Spanish class, as long as I pass, I'm good and I'll forget it. It's like when I go home, like everyone tries to speak Spanish with Nurdia. And it's just like, it's like what three words do I remember from Spanish class 30 years ago? speaker-2: course. just like, yeah, I mean, Americans just suck it up. I mean, it's Spanish. It's not Hebrew. It's not, I mean, Paulina, you could learn Russian a lot easier than we can. Polish is pretty, pretty difficult. But like Spanish, there's a lot of parallels. It's quite similar to English in a lot of ways. In fact, we share like, I think more than a thousand words that just have the same spelling, but they're pronounced differently. Like we get, we share things between the languages. So I mean, we're pretty close. And so, yeah, all right, he was out there speaking Spanish. You didn't understand. But come on, like, how drunk were you anyways? How many beers have you had that you think you would understand English at that point? Let's be real. It's a Super Bowl. Come on, everybody's getting twisted. speaker-0: Everybody wants to shake their butt, that's it. Like, actually cares about the game. We just want to, you know, shake our butts to the music and have a good time and eat some wings and whatever. speaker-2: Big booty Latinas, come on. speaker-0: Is that what you meant by their impersonation? speaker-2: I mean, we want some of them this day, of course. Not all of them. speaker-0: They're not going to let Carson to the States next time he tries to go. speaker-2: I mean, I got this thing going on here, so just so you know. speaker-0: There's something else I wanted to say and it slipped my mind. ⁓ was funny enough, I was actually talking to one of my students about this, about the Super Bowl quite recently. Cause I have quite young students and you know, and they sort of actually like Bad Bunny and whatever. So I tried to play a little bit of like the devil's advocate of if something like that were to happen in Poland. Because Poland right now, for example, has a lot of refugees or immigrants or whatever you want to call them coming from Ukraine. And I was thinking, okay, like if right now we had some big sporting event, which Poland normally doesn't, but I'd say we had a big sporting event and we put a Ukrainian singer that has Polish citizenship, but is of Ukrainian origin, right? Like was brought up in Ukraine and whatever. that was singing in Ukrainian. If people were to get pissed off, if I would get pissed off, you know, because in reality, I mean, I was trying to really understand why, I mean, still a lot of people in the United States were angry about Bad Bunny's performance. So I was trying to put it also like in my own sort of like home country, you know, how that would look like. And I'm thinking, I'm like, but... It doesn't really match up though, because I mean, Ukraine is not Poland's territory. It's not like, you know, and I was like, it doesn't, it's very difficult to have like a comparison, you know, because yeah, Ukraine is not Polish territory. There are a lot of immigrants, there are a lot of refugees, but it's not the same. Like there is nothing that sort of compares to that idea of like, that Puerto Rico technically is a territory that you can get citizenship, but you can't vote. And there is a different language, a completely different culture, because you sort of look at Ukraine and Poland and you're like, okay, then we have some similarities, know, similar food, the language is close enough for us to understand it to a certain extent. And I was like, there is no equivalent to it. So like, I was really trying to like put myself in a position where like, I could get myself so to say angry if I would be angry about it. And I'm like, but it doesn't work that way. So it's like, I think like it's a very, very specific American situation, like very United States, you know, type of. speaker-1: Like many things. speaker-0: Yeah. speaker-2: Interesting. I like how you try to put yourself in their shoes. How you would feel, right? And that's cool that because I mean, you're not alone in doing that. But like, think a lot of people are so quick to like express their opinions, express, know, whether it's pushing hate or whatever it is, but without even trying to do something like you did, you know, because at least you're trying to see the other side. You're like, really putting yourself into that situation and saying like, but how as I, as a person, how would I feel? because maybe I can try to see it from their perspective. And that's kind of the beautiful thing about it all is like... have that conversation with a person that you don't agree with. You can still find some common ground. And even if you can't, you can still like say, hey, I respect you enough to treat you kindly and say, yeah, like do your thing. I may not like it, but do your thing. speaker-0: Yeah, like I'm telling you, like I was really trying to sort of think about it because it's, you know, there are so many people that have watched the halftime show. don't know how many was like 65 million more. speaker-1: I think 135. speaker-0: Something, I don't know. Maybe it was like 165 or something. It was a crazy number. And I was thinking about it. was like, okay, so that many people actually, so to say, agreed, at least to a certain extent, or at least turned their TV on and watched that performance. What about the rest? Like, what were they feeling, you know? Because you can't just think about the people that agree. You also have to think about, okay, the people that disagree, like, speaker-2: the numbers speaker-0: Everyone's emotions technically should be to certain extent valid. know, like you can't just erase other people's opinions and voices and whatever, like as much as you might disagree with them, they're still going to have their opinions. They're still going to have their voice. They're still going to go and vote and whatever. But it's trying to sort of... understand and I feel like this is a lot of the times what we're missing, especially in this divide. Like we see it, we're divided, that's it. Like, I don't agree with you. But we don't take a moment to sit down like, okay, but why is their opinion different? What was in their lives or what happened in their lives that maybe this is the way that they were brought up. Maybe they never had a chance to sort of educate themselves further, whichever way they want to go, you know, like And I think that is the important thing to really sort of take a step back and look at it, like look at the bigger picture there. speaker-1: Like last week, it all comes down to communication. We were so quick to think one way and we're not going to change, but we actually had to sit down, like you said, say, well, why do you think that? What happened? We don't never know the backstory of why someone is the way that they are. And how do we get there? Well, sitting down and having a conversation, which doesn't happen. speaker-2: That's it. speaker-0: I I look at my father and my father is a lot more, you know, nationalistic than I am when it comes to Poland. But when I sit down and I look at like all the hardships that he had to face, especially during like communism, I'm like, well, that sort of makes sense. Like Poland didn't exist on the map for, I don't know, like hundreds of years. So. It makes you sort of think about like, what his parents went through? What did my great grandparents went through? And that sort of like tends to carry over. mean, especially when you get older, you know, and doesn't mean like that my father is like on the extreme either, you know, he understands a lot of the sort of more liberal ideas. He might not always agree with me, but we always try to have a bit like of a more civil conversation about it, you know, I'm like, dad, I see your point. I don't agree with it. let's not get into discussion about this, you ⁓ And I think very often we're very quick to judge you like, ⁓ you're this way because whatever. And yes, but at the same time, what goes on behind the scenes? Why? speaker-2: Right. I agree with that. Yeah. Everybody has their story and their experience is valid. Like you may not like it. You may not agree with it, but a lot of times it's like you said, like both of you said, it's just cause you can't experience that or you haven't been through that and you don't know what it's like to be them. And so really don't put a good, bad, right, wrong on it. Just say that, that's yours. I can't take that away from you. Like I can just hear you out and. And we can try to find some common ground. Hey, what do we both need the same things? We both like a lot of the same things. Maybe we don't have to agree on everything. I mean, you don't agree a hundred percent with your friends nor your family. Oof. A lot of us have family issues. Like we don't want to talk about it. Like that should be like, no, put that away. But like it exists. It's real. Um, so no, like we shouldn't expect to see eye to eye on everything. It's okay to disagree. It's impossible. And probably wouldn't want it anyways. It'd be boring as shit. speaker-0: I'm sure there will be a lot of things that we will also disagree on. speaker-1: That's normal. It's normal. It's natural. That's true. Real life. speaker-0: Exactly. But we had that discussion, you know, before we started, we even said like, there might be things. So to be kind, to be respectful, you know, to sort of see it from the other person's opinion. yeah, point of view, exactly. And not be like, Carson, you're fucking wrong. You're an asshole. ⁓ speaker-1: Sometimes it's true. speaker-0: We're bullying the carrot top again. speaker-1: Right. speaker-2: Alright y'all. Alright y'all. Peace out. got you. I got you. No, no, no. I was gonna say that. Yeah, like in the beginning of this episode, we were like, how many times you watch it? And I was like, I don't even watch it once. Paulina's like, the look in Verona's book. speaker-1: you. Sir, I've seen it 12 times. speaker-2: Are you kidding me right now? How could you, we're going to talk about this. How could you even see it? But in my defense, how I feel about it and from seeing it, I don't know if it would change much. I think like I've, felt it just by the clips that I saw, just like hearing what I heard. Like I heard like with my experience and my ears and, and how I perceived it was like, I'll stand true. Like I'll stand by it. Love, 100 % inclusion. Like we're all here together. You can't kick us out. You can't get rid of us because we have a right to be here. And yes, I agree with that. Absolutely. So much love. That's all I gotta say. speaker-1: But it also is good because Carson, said you only saw clips of it. I think I watched the performance twice, maybe three times. And then Paulina, you said you've seen it at least what, six times or more. So we also see like the different levels. Like, okay, she's seen it and analyzed it. She knows everything about it. Like I've seen it a couple of times. I know a couple of things. And you've seen the clips, which is also important because most of the things we see now are just clips. We never get the whole story or the whole performance, the whole show of anything. It's only a section of it. So also with that way, we get the different perspectives of the actual performance between the three of us or from the three of us. speaker-2: for sure. speaker-0: It shows definitely like our three different perspectives on it, right? And like our opinion and whatnot, but I think it's worth watching it at least once, Carson. ⁓ speaker-2: Wink wink, nod nod. speaker-0: Yeah, yeah. But that's up to you. That's obviously up to you. But I think it was a performance that definitely, you know, it's good. A lot of people are talking about it. And it's gonna go down in history, whether people like it or not. And I think it was a moment that, as you say, you know, with lots of love, with lots of unity and speaker-2: I'll do my homework. speaker-0: I mean, I watched the Sixth Dites for my own reasons because I think Bad Bunny is a very attractive man. ⁓ But obviously the music that he makes, I mean, I normally don't listen to that type of music. It's not something I would vibe to every day, but this album specifically, I really like the whole message behind it. He has a song about, I think La Mudanza, and it's about literally just moving. like how his family moved to the States and whatever and a whole thing about it. And I'm like, I could relate to that. Like there are so many songs that for me personally, I could actually relate to. And I thought it was beautiful for that reason. That's why I watched it so many times because I wanted to analyze. I wanted to see, I wanted to hear, I wanted to look up about Bunny. ⁓ but I also understand cars and that might not be your vibe. speaker-2: So it's not, I mean, if I hear it when I'm out and we're grooving and I will be dancing to it for sure. I'll be dancing to it. It's just, not putting it on my, you know, on my playlist. speaker-0: Yeah, I playing in my house a lot. I'm like on the opposite end here. But like I said, and we speaker-2: Tony, run! Get out before it's too late! speaker-1: Nah. speaker-0: But like I said, I think, you know, since we had also those different upbringings, right? ⁓ We're all from different places. ⁓ I think that idea of, you know, why I also listen to it, because of like the move, because my parents moved to the States before, because I moved to the States when I was quite young. And I can relate to certain things a lot more than maybe Carson can or Brandon. speaker-2: Perhaps you feel closer to it. And yeah, absolutely. I I won't try to take that away from you. I'm not going to try to compete with you. I'm going to honor that you have that feeling. that's what like so many people, think so many Americans felt. They felt connected to that. I felt like this guy like represents me to some extent, like he speaks on my level and that's cool by all means. speaker-0: Although it's difficult for person. speaker-2: Is that? speaker-0: quite difficult sometimes, Any last words of wisdom for today? speaker-1: Peace and love. speaker-2: I'll go with that. speaker-0: Yeah, that's a good one. Let's leave that one in peace and love. speaker-2: Somebody cut this off. speaker-0: Brandon! speaker-2: I don't know what you're thinking but Senorita Benito, Bad Bunny Boy...