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Josh Barfield talks White Sox future, Crochet deal, Offseason spending? + Hosts pick AL award winners · Foul Territory

• 0:02
  Speaker 1: Coming off the Emmys on Sunday evening. By the way,
• 0:05
  Speaker 1: Nate Bargotzi did a great job. I didn't watch the Emmys,
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  Speaker 1: but I love Nate Bargotzi and I know he hosted.
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  Speaker 1: It is time to give some awards everybody in the
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  Speaker 1: American League. Let us start with MVP. If you will,
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  Speaker 1: AJ will start with you. Who is your American League
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  Speaker 1: Most Valuable Player?
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  Speaker 2: Who?
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  Speaker 3: And why? My friend?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm just going cal Raley. I've been on
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  Speaker 2: this train bandwagon all year, pretty much since the All
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  Speaker 2: Star Game. Aaron Judge is probably going to win it,
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  Speaker 2: but I think kl ralely deserves some credit. And I
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  Speaker 2: think that at cal Ray with his home run, he's
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  Speaker 2: going to set the all time home run record for
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  Speaker 2: switch hitters. He's already got the all time catcher home
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  Speaker 2: run record. He plays every day. He plays in Seattle
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  Speaker 2: places not great to hit, as you guys have mentioned,
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  Speaker 2: he has to travel so much more than everybody else.
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  Speaker 2: I just think it's a special year, a historic year,
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  Speaker 2: and he should be the guy that wins it because
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  Speaker 2: they're going to go to the postseason and he catches
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  Speaker 2: and he plays every day, and no one can describe
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  Speaker 2: how hard it is to do that. Until you've done.
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  Speaker 1: It, there is not a chance in hell the Seattle
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  Speaker 1: Mariners are where they are without cal Ray. Cal Rawly
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  Speaker 1: means more to the Mariners than Aaron Judge.
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  Speaker 3: Means to the Yankees.
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  Speaker 1: I think the Yankees get into the postseason without Aaron
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  Speaker 1: Judge barely, but they still make it. There are more
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  Speaker 1: stars on the Yankees. Cal Rawley is my MVP, not
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  Speaker 1: that anybody asked, Eric, Who's yours?
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  Speaker 2: Aaron Judge, And it kills me to go against It
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  Speaker 2: kills me to go against cal Raley because of what
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  Speaker 2: he's done, because of what he's done in this historic season.
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  Speaker 2: I think if he even had, you know, if he
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  Speaker 2: had a little bit of an uptick in September here
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  Speaker 2: August September, he could have surpassed Judge, who was really
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  Speaker 2: just relegated to Dhing until a couple of weeks ago.
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  Speaker 2: I think there was a chance that he did that
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  Speaker 2: he catches him. But who wins the award is Aaron
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  Speaker 2: Judge who I want to see win the award because
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  Speaker 2: everything that AJ just said cal Rawley.
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  Speaker 1: You know what's interesting is the last time it wasn't
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  Speaker 1: either Judge or Otani was twenty twenty in terms of
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  Speaker 1: like American League, when there was really controver Yeah, really
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  Speaker 1: really a controversy or a question mark. Cal Raley has
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  Speaker 1: just been so I mean, he'll never have a season
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  Speaker 1: like this again. I mean, Aaron Judge probably have subsequent
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  Speaker 1: seasons of these types of numbers, but cal Rawly will
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  Speaker 1: never have a season like this again. And I feel
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  Speaker 1: like this is again we're like waiting for the Mariners
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  Speaker 1: to implode, because this is always the time of year
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  Speaker 1: that the Mariners implode. Cal Rally has been the most
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  Speaker 1: valuable player for a team, I think in twenty twenty five. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: Cy Young Award winner in the American League, AJ you
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  Speaker 1: have honors.
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  Speaker 2: Go ahead, Schoolble, schoolbl That's it. I don't know if
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  Speaker 2: there's anybody that close. It's it's going to be Schooble again,
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  Speaker 2: and I think it's well deserved. He's going to go
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  Speaker 2: back to back because my answer is exactly the same
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  Speaker 2: as AJS. I want to ask you guys a question
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  Speaker 2: about cal Raley. I know we're skipping back. Does he
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  Speaker 2: get any one does he get any first place votes?
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  Speaker 3: Yes? I mean I don't have a vote.
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  Speaker 2: He definitely shouldn't. I mean, if you're a Seattle writer
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  Speaker 2: or you're a West Coast writer, absolutely should get some.
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  Speaker 3: Votes first place.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, yes, by the way, the thing about Schooble
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  Speaker 2: winning is Crochet's had a really good year and Hunter
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  Speaker 2: Brown has had a really good year. But I just
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  Speaker 2: think Schooble, with what he's done is just has outshined
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  Speaker 2: them all. So I think it's gonna be one, two three,
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  Speaker 2: but I think School is gonna get It won't be
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  Speaker 2: the runaway it was last year, but he was gonna
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  Speaker 2: win again.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, Garret Crochet was in the running for the
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  Speaker 1: triple Crown a decent portion of this season, but that
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  Speaker 1: has fallen off and Schooble has been absolutely unbelievable.
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  Speaker 3: I believe it's Schooble again.
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  Speaker 1: Award for the American League's Top reliever, the Mariano Rivera award.
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  Speaker 3: If you will.
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  Speaker 1: So that's obviously the best reliever in the game in
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  Speaker 1: the junior circuit AJ who is its.
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  Speaker 2: Chapman, the chapman just when fifty straight guys is out
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  Speaker 2: giving up a hit. So to me, it's the oldest chairman.
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  Speaker 2: The year he's had, he's walks her down as e
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  Speaker 2: Ra is barely over one. I think it's the rold
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  Speaker 2: As Chapman Eric, Yeah, I think I think that might
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  Speaker 2: be more runaway than the cy Young. Obviously, I don't
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  Speaker 2: know if we we get to see those tallied votes
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  Speaker 2: like we do with the cy Young, But I think
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  Speaker 2: Chappi's I think Chappie's running away with this awards.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: By the way, he's a massive humanity. I mean he
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  Speaker 1: is so in shape, and he's pitching like in reverse.
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  Speaker 1: He's just getting better with age. He looks great, pitching great.
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  Speaker 1: Boston has acknowledged it. They've extended him already. He's had
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  Speaker 1: one hell of a year. Okay, Rookie of the Year
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  Speaker 1: in the National League.
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  Speaker 3: Guys, who is it?
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  Speaker 1: No, you mean the American leg I'm sorry, I Apoloz's.
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  Speaker 2: Nick in Oakland, Jacob Wilson and Nick Kurtz. But it's
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  Speaker 2: Nick Kurtz. I mean, watch this guy play, watch this
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  Speaker 2: guy hit, plus he came on ft he It's I mean,
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  Speaker 2: it's easy. This might be unanimous. I mean it's not
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  Speaker 2: easy of a Rookie of the Year voting Jack Wilson.
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  Speaker 2: Hopefully Jack Wilson gets to at least or Jacob Wilson sorry,
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  Speaker 2: gets to at least like touch the trophy because until
• 5:22
  Speaker 2: Nick Kurtz came up, like Jacob Wilson was like, oh
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  Speaker 2: this is mine, I'm locking this thing up. He was
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  Speaker 2: going to hit, you know, he got hurt, but he
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  Speaker 2: was going to hit like three thirty on the year.
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  Speaker 2: Then he kind of declined. But Nick Kurtz running away
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  Speaker 2: with it. I think he's going to be higher in
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  Speaker 2: MVP voting than people would have thought he would have
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  Speaker 2: been two weeks ago.
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  Speaker 1: Even I hate the fact that he's on such a
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  Speaker 1: crappy team because it's just so difficult to give an
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  Speaker 1: award to a guy that's on a crap team. It's
• 5:52
  Speaker 1: not his fault, it's not his fault at all. I
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  Speaker 1: would have loved if Roman Anthony had been called up
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  Speaker 1: sooner in the year, and I would have loved even
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  Speaker 1: more if Roman Anthony didn't have an bleak issue, because
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  Speaker 1: I think Roman Anthony could have very well been the
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  Speaker 1: American League Rookie of the Year.
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  Speaker 3: But I too am giving it.
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  Speaker 2: To It's tough what Kurts has done. It's tough. Not
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  Speaker 2: over Kurtz is ridiculous this year.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I watched watching it.
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  Speaker 2: You like the Red Sox of Roman Anthony is nice,
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  Speaker 2: like to the point where the way he plays and
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  Speaker 2: he can play a solid outfield, maybe he might have
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  Speaker 2: a chance of being hired in the MVP voting later
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  Speaker 2: in their careers. But what Nick Kurtz has done, like
• 6:35
  Speaker 2: when people go up and look in those numbers, He's
• 6:37
  Speaker 2: got over a thousand ops as a freshman in the league.
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  Speaker 2: It is amazing.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I hear you. I just wish I could
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  Speaker 1: have seen Roman Anthony play the length of time that
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  Speaker 1: Nick Kurtz has played this year, and I wonder if
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  Speaker 1: the conversation would have been every different. Not to take
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  Speaker 1: away anything from Nick Kurtz by any stretch, but I
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  Speaker 1: wonder what Anthony could have done over a more extended
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  Speaker 1: period of time.
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  Speaker 3: Come Back Player of the Year.
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  Speaker 1: We discussed this a little bit earlier in terms of
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  Speaker 1: American Comeback Player of the Year, American League Comeback Player
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  Speaker 1: of the Year. Who do you guys think it is?
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  Speaker 2: It's Jacob deGrom. Jacob deGrom. He's been through so many
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  Speaker 2: injuries and it's Jacob Degron. This is pretty easy for me.
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  Speaker 3: Jacob de Gron, Hey, aj is it Jacob de Gram?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we've already had this conversation. So guess what is
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  Speaker 2: Jacob p Gron?
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  Speaker 3: All right, Eric, is it Jacob de Gram?
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with Jacob deGrom.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, so we have established it's Jacob de Grom who pitched.
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  Speaker 2: I wonder where he's gonna end up. I wonder where
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  Speaker 2: he's gonna end up on the sy Young voting. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: I think Evaldy was going to get was going to
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  Speaker 2: get a lot of cy Young votes. Obviously, he's been
• 7:50
  Speaker 2: out the last he'll be out, you know, the last
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  Speaker 2: over a month of the season, so that'll hurt him.
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  Speaker 2: But he had blow a two era for de Gram
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  Speaker 2: to come back and do what he's done comeback. Player
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  Speaker 2: of the Year is a lock. I want.
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  Speaker 1: You guys know how bad I wanted Nathan Evaldi to
• 8:08
  Speaker 1: sign with the Los Angeles Dodgers of Los Angeles. I
• 8:12
  Speaker 1: love Nathan Evaldi, I love everything.
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  Speaker 2: Where was he gonna play? They didn't have any roster spots.
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  Speaker 3: That's not true.
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  Speaker 1: I'm talking before the Glass now, signing, before the Snell signing,
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  Speaker 1: all that stuff.
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  Speaker 3: I love Valdi? All right, So is it Jacob Degarom?
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  Speaker 3: Fair enough?
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  Speaker 4: All right?
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  Speaker 1: Manager of the Year in the American League A J Who.
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  Speaker 3: Is it John Schneider, John Schneider, Who is deserving of it?
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  Speaker 2: That's just going to get it and deserving because remember
• 8:41
  Speaker 2: what they went through last year and all, and they listen,
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  Speaker 2: he's on the hot seat. We all talked about this.
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  Speaker 2: He was on the hot seat before this year, and
• 8:48
  Speaker 2: here they are. They're gonna win the AL East, and
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  Speaker 2: they're gonna win it pretty easily. They got a chance
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  Speaker 2: to make a deep runt. So for me, it's John Schneider.
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  Speaker 1: I mean he was on the hot seat in the
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  Speaker 1: middle of this year. It wasn't even just coming into
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  Speaker 1: the season. It was in the middle of this year.
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  Speaker 1: He was on the hot seat. Now look at where
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  Speaker 1: they are.
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  Speaker 3: AJ. Do you agree excuse me, Eric, do you agree
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  Speaker 3: with that?
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  Speaker 2: I do? And I think if the team had done
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  Speaker 2: this the last two seasons when they missed the playoffs,
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  Speaker 2: I don't think he would have won it because there
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  Speaker 2: was a lot of expectations of like, this team is
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  Speaker 2: really good, they're gonna win. Oh they fell short, they
• 9:19
  Speaker 2: fell short. And now this year everyone kind of like
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  Speaker 2: tempered their expectations. And I think they're three games up
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  Speaker 2: on the Tigers for the best record. Yeah, so on
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  Speaker 2: my first ever Roomy in Pro Bowl victory. I don't
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  Speaker 2: even know if you get like a cool trophy or not.
• 9:35
  Speaker 2: I forget.
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  Speaker 1: Hopefully they have some incentives in their contract that if
• 9:40
  Speaker 1: they become manager of the Year you get some cash.
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  Speaker 1: That's the only trophy I need. I'm gonna go with
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  Speaker 1: aj Hanch. And the reason I say that is I
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  Speaker 1: understand that Schneider will likely get it because he what
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  Speaker 1: he's done with the team, obviously because he was on
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  Speaker 1: the hot seat, and also because he manages in the
• 9:55
  Speaker 1: Al East and people pay attention to the Al East
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  Speaker 1: way more than they pay attention to the Ales Central.
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  Speaker 1: But what aj Hinch is done with a Tiger's team
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  Speaker 1: that's pretty much been in the lead of things, or
• 10:05
  Speaker 1: at least in the conversation of the lead of things
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  Speaker 1: wire to wire of this season, you got Hobby Bias
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  Speaker 1: playing out of his mind. Obviously, having Trek Schouble as
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  Speaker 1: your ace helps. But what aj Hinch has done with
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  Speaker 1: that team, to me warrants a lot of consideration for
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  Speaker 1: Manager of the Year in the American League.
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  Speaker 3: Is he going to get it?
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  Speaker 4: No?
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  Speaker 1: Do I think he has a good reason to get it. Sure,
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  Speaker 1: So I'm gonna go with Hinch.
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  Speaker 2: That's fair. I can see that he's a he's a
• 10:32
  Speaker 2: nice fellows.
• 10:35
  Speaker 3: It's not the Good Guy Award of the Year. It's
• 10:37
  Speaker 3: a Manager of the Year.
• 10:38
  Speaker 1: All right, Let's check out one of AJ's Ruby packs
• 10:41
  Speaker 1: he pulled. AJ, did you buy or sell as far
• 10:44
  Speaker 1: as Arena Club and Pokemon?
• 10:47
  Speaker 2: Do you think I know what a Pokemon thing is?
• 10:50
  Speaker 2: Do you know what that thing is? Exactly? So I
• 10:54
  Speaker 2: did it. I got this. It's a I don't even know,
• 10:57
  Speaker 2: but I got. I got more money than I paid
• 10:59
  Speaker 2: for It's a more Zapto's Articuna g X guard and
• 11:04
  Speaker 2: so I sold it right away. So yeah, I got
• 11:08
  Speaker 2: more money than I paid for it. So I was like,
• 11:10
  Speaker 2: sell now, it's not Pokemon, it's not Pokemon.
• 11:15
  Speaker 3: Pokemon, oh, Pokemon. I apologize.
• 11:19
  Speaker 2: Poky Man, it's closer to Pookey Man. I like Pooky Man,
• 11:23
  Speaker 2: but it's Pokemon. And that's a GX. Anybody knows. Anybody
• 11:27
  Speaker 2: knows it's a g X.
• 11:29
  Speaker 3: It's not true because A J and I are anybodies
• 11:32
  Speaker 3: and we didn't know.
• 11:33
  Speaker 2: Do you guys, remember I was thinking about this the
• 11:35
  Speaker 2: other day, You guys, remember a couple of years ago.
• 11:36
  Speaker 2: I was a while now when they had the Pokemon
• 11:38
  Speaker 2: Go and people were walking around on their phones and
• 11:41
  Speaker 2: they were like running into like stuff. They were like, oh,
• 11:44
  Speaker 2: driving into stuff. There's might be a fake thing over
• 11:48
  Speaker 2: there in the corner. What would you do, Alana? Do
• 11:51
  Speaker 2: you remember garbage You remember garbage pail kids?
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  Speaker 4: Courts?
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  Speaker 3: I remember garbage pail kids. It's the Cabbage Patch Kids,
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  Speaker 3: ugly cousins.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, if I can, if I get in a garbage
• 12:02
  Speaker 2: if I can get a garbage pale Kid card in
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  Speaker 2: my arena club, that would be boss. I gotta see
• 12:07
  Speaker 2: if I can rip one of those packs, because you know,
• 12:10
  Speaker 2: I got packs of them laying around here.
• 12:12
  Speaker 3: Because I saw there's garbage pail kids in arena.
• 12:16
  Speaker 2: I went to somewhere and they had them for sale,
• 12:18
  Speaker 2: and I bought a bunch. It was somewhere, and I
• 12:20
  Speaker 2: got like Adam Bomb large, large, Marge large. Yes, Adam
• 12:28
  Speaker 2: Bomb is my favorite.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, I had six Cabbage Patch kids, you guys.
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  Speaker 4: I was.
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  Speaker 3: I was into it. I was into it.
• 12:35
  Speaker 1: I was into adoption way like a long time ago.
• 12:38
  Speaker 1: See and now I just rescue puppies.
• 12:39
  Speaker 2: But that's a whole other Ironically, my cabbage patch kid.
• 12:43
  Speaker 2: His name was Buddy and he was bald.
• 12:47
  Speaker 3: Ironically, maybe he was actually your kid.
• 12:52
  Speaker 1: Right now, you can get twenty percent off your first
• 12:55
  Speaker 1: lap pack or card purchase by going to arenaclub dot
• 12:58
  Speaker 1: com slash fall and use cod foul All right, guys. Next,
• 13:01
  Speaker 1: Josh Barfield is joining us. Always great to have front
• 13:07
  Speaker 1: office brass joining us on Foul Territory. That is Josh Barfield.
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  Speaker 1: We thought he was going to be wearing a quarter zip.
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  Speaker 1: We were wrong. It is a polo instead, Josh. Great
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  Speaker 1: to be with you, White Sox Assistant GM. According to
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  Speaker 1: Mark finesand a source saying that you're staying with the
• 13:24
  Speaker 1: Pale Hose, sir, not going to the Orioles. Tell us
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  Speaker 1: more about that decision to stay where you're at.
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  Speaker 3: Welcome to the show.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, thanks for having me on. It's good to see
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  Speaker 5: you guys. And yeah, I'm here. I'm staying with the
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  Speaker 5: White Sox. I'm really happy. This has been a great
• 13:38
  Speaker 5: situation for me and my family since day one, from
• 13:41
  Speaker 5: Jerry to Getzi all the way down. You know, they
• 13:44
  Speaker 5: treated us, treat us so well, and I'm really excited
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  Speaker 5: about what we're building here.
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  Speaker 4: You know, we're in a you know, we are in
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  Speaker 4: a rebuild.
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  Speaker 5: You know last year was tough in the first year
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  Speaker 5: over here, and you know, going through the aches and
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  Speaker 5: pains of setting me all the time and the losing record.
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  Speaker 5: But you know, I feel like we're heading in the
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  Speaker 5: right direction right now. We have a lot of good
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  Speaker 5: things happening, a lot of young guys coming up having success. Uh,
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  Speaker 5: you know, the minor leagues, we have guys continuing to
• 14:08
  Speaker 5: uh make big strides down there, and it just feels like, uh,
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  Speaker 5: there's a lot more optimism than there's been here in
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  Speaker 5: the last couple of years. And the guys are playing
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  Speaker 5: better baseball, especially here, you know, post All Star breaks.
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  Speaker 4: So it's been exciting.
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  Speaker 2: I was the one that thought you were going to
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  Speaker 2: be wearing a quarter zip. But do you at least
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  Speaker 2: have khakis on? Like, are you like full scout mode
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  Speaker 2: because you got like you got khakis and a collared shirt.
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  Speaker 2: Is that is that what you're going with up in
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  Speaker 2: Chicago now.
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  Speaker 5: I'm not a khaki guy. I did that the first
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  Speaker 5: year on I was scouting. I'm not a khaki guy.
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  Speaker 5: It's usually like some nice jeans or or some Travis
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  Speaker 5: Matthews slacks in a in a in a polo. There
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  Speaker 5: is there is a quarter zip hanging up in my office.
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  Speaker 5: But it's yeah, it's not all It's not not cold
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  Speaker 5: enough yet.
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  Speaker 2: I wouldn't think I wouldn't think you would completely sell out.
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  Speaker 2: But since a Lona brought it up, I want to
• 14:54
  Speaker 2: hit I want to hit on the whole. Orioles like
• 14:57
  Speaker 2: GM search type of thing we talk about all the time,
• 14:59
  Speaker 2: and we actually kind of gave the White Sox a
• 15:02
  Speaker 2: little bit of a of a hard time for not
• 15:05
  Speaker 2: going outside of the organization getting Getsy Getsy went outside
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  Speaker 2: of the organization to bring you in. When you go
• 15:12
  Speaker 2: and do an interview with the Orioles, how much do
• 15:15
  Speaker 2: you feel like you have to and I don't know
• 15:18
  Speaker 2: how far in the process you got that you have
• 15:20
  Speaker 2: to not give all the White Sox secrets away, but
• 15:24
  Speaker 2: also get some information from another organization that is now
• 15:29
  Speaker 2: like three years ahead of the White Sox in the
• 15:32
  Speaker 2: sense that like they rebuild for a while and now
• 15:34
  Speaker 2: they have a bunch of talent in the big leagues.
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: How much of that do you have to like, I
• 15:39
  Speaker 2: don't know, like balance and like go through when you're
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: in those negotiations or interview in every rooms.
• 15:47
  Speaker 5: Yeah, so it's a good question. We didn't get that far.
• 15:50
  Speaker 5: You know, they reached out with interest. You know, we
• 15:53
  Speaker 5: talked here internally with Getsy and with Jerry, and also,
• 15:58
  Speaker 5: you know, my family wanted to make sure you got
• 16:00
  Speaker 5: to keep mama happy.
• 16:02
  Speaker 4: So we talked about it for a while. But and
• 16:04
  Speaker 4: then just got back to them and let them know
• 16:05
  Speaker 4: that I didn't want to hold them up in.
• 16:07
  Speaker 5: Their search, and I just didn't feel like it was
• 16:09
  Speaker 5: the right right time right now. It's obviously a great
• 16:10
  Speaker 5: situation over there. They're doing a lot of really good things,
• 16:12
  Speaker 5: and Alias is a you know, he's done so much
• 16:15
  Speaker 5: in this game, you know, But just didn't feel like
• 16:18
  Speaker 5: it was the right right time and really want to
• 16:20
  Speaker 5: be here to see this thing through.
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: All right, Mart, Like we played together in twenty eleven,
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: you were an intense player, Like you would run dudes
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: over harder. And you're not a big guy, no no offense,
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: but you would hammer dudes at the play. So I
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: know your competitiveness as much as you were the first
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: one out of the clubhouse every single day. That's a
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: different story. How do you take that, how do you
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: take that into your job when you come over to
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: the White Sox and you're like, Okay, well might not
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: win a lot of games. How do you take that
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: competitiveness out of it but also instill it in the
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: guys in youranization, the coaches, in the organization, the everything,
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: because I know how intense you were, and I don't
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: think you can just turn that off.
• 17:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you're right, you can't turn it off, right. We're competitive.
• 17:12
  Speaker 5: I think that's why so many of us play this game.
• 17:13
  Speaker 5: And I think that's the thing you missed the most
• 17:15
  Speaker 5: when you.
• 17:15
  Speaker 4: Get done playing.
• 17:17
  Speaker 5: It's that competing and I think that I get to
• 17:19
  Speaker 5: scratch that itch on this side. And yeah, going through
• 17:21
  Speaker 5: a rebuild, you you lose a little bit of the
• 17:24
  Speaker 5: day to day competitiveness, but it's still that you're trying
• 17:27
  Speaker 5: to keep up with other organizations. You're trying to you
• 17:29
  Speaker 5: still want to win every day, right, You still go
• 17:31
  Speaker 5: out there and you want to win, and knowing that
• 17:34
  Speaker 5: you might be behind the eight ball some nights. But
• 17:38
  Speaker 5: you know, I think the group that we have here
• 17:41
  Speaker 5: from Getsy from Will coming over his first year as
• 17:43
  Speaker 5: a manager, Paul Yannish, our farm director. It's a lot
• 17:46
  Speaker 5: of guys that are playing backgrounds and we all want
• 17:49
  Speaker 5: to compete.
• 17:49
  Speaker 4: We all want to.
• 17:50
  Speaker 5: Instill that in our players. I think it starts from
• 17:52
  Speaker 5: the day they get into the organization. You know, we
• 17:55
  Speaker 5: just have draft recently. We find the guys out to
• 17:57
  Speaker 5: Arizona and we do go through the orientation.
• 18:00
  Speaker 4: We talked about doing winning things, playing winning baseball, and
• 18:03
  Speaker 4: you guys know, like on a given night you might
• 18:05
  Speaker 4: not win, but you could play winning baseball. And there's
• 18:07
  Speaker 4: a there's a brand of.
• 18:07
  Speaker 5: Baseball that we want to uh, you know, we want
• 18:10
  Speaker 5: to show up every night and play for our for
• 18:11
  Speaker 5: our team, for our fans. And you know, I think
• 18:13
  Speaker 5: you're starting to see that with some of these young guys,
• 18:15
  Speaker 5: and uh, you know, hope to continue to build on that.
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: Josh who makes the decisions on some of these trades
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: that you guys have to make? Is it? Is it
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: a team effort? Who goes through the prospects and says, hey,
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: we're going to trade Garrett Crochet for Kyle Teal on
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: my draw and that whole package? Who is that you?
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: Is that gets is it? Who who exactly is in
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: charge of all the trades that you guys have made?
• 18:40
  Speaker 5: Yeah, And in the end it gets you. But I
• 18:42
  Speaker 5: think you know, he's done a good job of surrounding
• 18:44
  Speaker 5: himself with a lot of a lot of good people.
• 18:47
  Speaker 4: Uh.
• 18:47
  Speaker 5: I think one of his biggest strengths is that he's
• 18:50
  Speaker 5: very open to information and he filters it and in
• 18:53
  Speaker 5: the end he comes out and makes the you know,
• 18:55
  Speaker 5: the best decision possible for the organization. But uh, you know,
• 18:58
  Speaker 5: it's it's a it's a group here. I think one
• 19:00
  Speaker 5: of the things that he does really well too. It's
• 19:02
  Speaker 5: not a lot of secrets. It's not a lot of hey, guys,
• 19:05
  Speaker 5: get out of here. You know, the big guys are talking.
• 19:06
  Speaker 5: It's everybody's got a piece of it. It's a lot
• 19:10
  Speaker 5: of collaboration here. And you know, in the end, we're
• 19:12
  Speaker 5: trying to use the information. We were trying to use
• 19:15
  Speaker 5: our knowledge of our guys to make the best decisions possible,
• 19:18
  Speaker 5: you know, not only for the short term, but we
• 19:20
  Speaker 5: want to build a consistent winner here. And we know
• 19:22
  Speaker 5: that takes time and that takes talent, and you know,
• 19:24
  Speaker 5: I think if you look back at the Crochet deal,
• 19:26
  Speaker 5: it's so far it's kind of been a win win.
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: For both both sides.
• 19:29
  Speaker 5: You know, Crochet, we knew he was we were trading
• 19:32
  Speaker 5: away one of the best pictures, if not the best
• 19:34
  Speaker 5: picture in the game, and you know that that's got
• 19:36
  Speaker 5: to come at a high price. And you know, we
• 19:37
  Speaker 5: felt like the Red Sox we were able to get that,
• 19:40
  Speaker 5: you know, the return we were looking for there.
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: And you know, all four guys have been three of
• 19:44
  Speaker 4: them have contributed at the major.
• 19:45
  Speaker 5: League level this year, and you know you got another
• 19:47
  Speaker 5: one that's not too far away and Braden Montgomery.
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: Josh, that's a.
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: Great question or a great point that you make, and
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: it actually leads me into my next question. Obviously, you're
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: hoping you get some massive gain in return for a
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: guy like a Garrett Crochet. But when you're watching Crochet
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: on the hill now for the Red Sox every fifth
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: day and you see the success that he's having, he's
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: in the conversation for the Cy Young Award, what goes
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: through your mind, Like, man, that guy could be on
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: our hill, Yet you know you had to trade him
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: for a reason. Kind of take me through that balance
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: of being an assistant GM and watching him have that success,
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: but knowing you guys feel like you made the right choice.
• 20:23
  Speaker 5: Yeah, we knew what we were giving up when we
• 20:25
  Speaker 5: traded him, Like we got to see it really it
• 20:27
  Speaker 5: started in spring training last year when we made the
• 20:29
  Speaker 5: switch to him being a starter, and it was one
• 20:32
  Speaker 5: of his first outing I think it was against the Dodgers,
• 20:33
  Speaker 5: and he just absolutely mowed through, you know, three future
• 20:36
  Speaker 5: Hall of Famers, And from that point on, it was like,
• 20:39
  Speaker 5: this is real and this guy is going to be
• 20:41
  Speaker 5: a good starting picture for a long time, you know,
• 20:43
  Speaker 5: as long as he stayed healthy.
• 20:44
  Speaker 4: And he's done a really good job of that.
• 20:45
  Speaker 5: But knowing where we were as an organization, we really
• 20:48
  Speaker 5: needed to jump start it and we needed to add
• 20:50
  Speaker 5: as much talent as we could. And being able to
• 20:53
  Speaker 5: add for you know, impact players, even though you're giving
• 20:56
  Speaker 5: up one of the top players in the game, you know,
• 20:57
  Speaker 5: we felt like it was a really good return and
• 21:00
  Speaker 5: it allowed us to fill a number of holes with
• 21:01
  Speaker 5: one one bullet.
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: When he said he wanted to be extended when he
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: was traded at the end of the year or at
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: the trade deadline last year, did that send a ripple
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: through the front office trying to like make trying to
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: like navigate that with him and with possible trade opportunities.
• 21:21
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, it was a unique situation and I
• 21:24
  Speaker 5: get it. You know, he's trying to do and his
• 21:26
  Speaker 5: representation is trying to do what's best for him long term.
• 21:29
  Speaker 5: And we love the guy. I mean, he helped this
• 21:32
  Speaker 5: organization a ton. He was a pro while he was here,
• 21:34
  Speaker 5: just a really likable guy on and off the field.
• 21:37
  Speaker 5: So you know, there was no like ill Will once
• 21:40
  Speaker 5: that came out, and I ultimately, I don't think it
• 21:42
  Speaker 5: really changed too much.
• 21:44
  Speaker 4: And you know, in the end, I'm glad he was
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: able to get his extension. But the guy's a gamer.
• 21:48
  Speaker 5: You know, he wanted to take the ball even if
• 21:50
  Speaker 5: we wanted to shut him down last year at any point, like,
• 21:53
  Speaker 5: he wasn't having that, and he just wants to be
• 21:56
  Speaker 5: out there and pitch. And you know, now you're getting
• 21:58
  Speaker 5: to see it on the big stage in a big
• 22:00
  Speaker 5: which is great for him.
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: And you already get to see the returns from that trade.
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: So it's pretty decent. Kyle Tiele and Colson Montgomery are
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: just the like tip of the iceberg for you guys.
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: That's awesome for the White Sox. Your journey as a player, now,
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: most people don't know they need to baseball reference you.
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: You came out hot, you came up, you were a prospect.
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: Your son of a you know, former All Star Jesse Barfield,
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: Like there was a lot behind you. So your journey
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: culminated in playing in the Atlantic League and independent ball
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: playing with me in twenty eleven, Like, there were so
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: many things. What part of your journey as a player
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: helps you the most now as an assistant GM or
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: even as a player development guy like you were with
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: the with the Diamondbacks, or as a future GM.
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think all of it.
• 22:52
  Speaker 5: Really, It's really hard to pinpoint one of it because
• 22:54
  Speaker 5: I think I can relate to a lot of different people, right,
• 22:57
  Speaker 5: I can relate to the you know, the Colson and
• 23:00
  Speaker 5: the Braidens, and the guys that are coming up with
• 23:01
  Speaker 5: a lot of hype and you know, dealing with those expectations,
• 23:05
  Speaker 5: and then at the same time, I can deal with
• 23:06
  Speaker 5: the guys on the back side of it, right, the
• 23:07
  Speaker 5: guys that are grinding trying to make it back. The
• 23:10
  Speaker 5: guys that you know, we the boozers, the guys like
• 23:13
  Speaker 5: that that you went the indie ball route and then
• 23:15
  Speaker 5: made their way back to the big leagues, and just
• 23:17
  Speaker 5: understanding what what you go through with the ups and
• 23:19
  Speaker 5: downs of it. Like there's so much information in today's
• 23:22
  Speaker 5: game is great, and we use that in a lot
• 23:24
  Speaker 5: of our decisions, but also understand understand the human factors
• 23:27
  Speaker 5: that go into it and being able to relate to
• 23:29
  Speaker 5: players and to communicate with players to get the information
• 23:33
  Speaker 5: to them that we want.
• 23:34
  Speaker 4: So yeah, I wouldn't. I wouldn't trade any of my
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: journey for for where I You know, it helped me get.
• 23:40
  Speaker 5: To where I am now, and I think it's going
• 23:42
  Speaker 5: to help me continue as I move forward in this game.
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: Bar I told you I'd keep it real, and I
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: told you if I had the video, we would show it.
• 23:51
  Speaker 4: There's no way you have that video.
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: So in twenty eleven, I'm gonna set the stage here
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: it is so we can just we can we can
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: just watch it.
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: I can someone.
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: Explain what's happening please, Like we need a better setup
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: than just Josh running through the water.
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: Oh well, there was there was awesome music. There was
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: There was awesome music to it. And sorry for everybody
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: on the pot, we were just silent for you. But basically,
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: Josh Barfield needed a little extra cash. He was on
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: his own in Triple A, and some of our good
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: buddies Jeff Larish, Delwyn Young, tag Bose aid challenged bar
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: two walk on water run across the fountain?
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: Was that Buffalowtown Buffalo? It was cold out too.
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: It was free. It's always cold in Buffalo. Or it's July.
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: One of the two ed Josh Barfield needed a little
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: bit of money, So my guy, but Josh Water.
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: Josh, why didn't you take off your socks? There's nothing,
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: nothing worse than what sucks? So why didn't you take
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: off the socks?
• 25:00
  Speaker 4: I mean, why did I do any of this, especially
• 25:03
  Speaker 4: knowing that there was cameras on me.
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: This was when we still had This is when we
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: still had flip phones. But you know, like now, maybe, hey,
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: you pay your minor leaguers a little bit better now,
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: don't you, so they don't have to be doing this
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: kind of stuff.
• 25:19
  Speaker 5: We feed them better, a higher minor league minimums now.
• 25:22
  Speaker 5: So yeah, and there's social media, so guys are a
• 25:24
  Speaker 5: little smarter now. We didn't have social media back then,
• 25:26
  Speaker 5: so you didn't have to worry about that stuff resurfacing
• 25:30
  Speaker 5: the video.
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: The video is courtesy of Jeff Larish, otherwise known as
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: Statue one of the one of the Toledo mud Hens
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: slash Detroit Tiger Great Prospects. Hey, Josh, can you give
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: us White Sox fans an update on Smith and Schultz
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: and Bradon Montgomery while we're at it, where they're at
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: and what their season went like and what the prospects
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: are possibly for next year.
• 25:58
  Speaker 5: Yeah, so you know those through the bigger name coming
• 26:00
  Speaker 5: into the season, and uh, you know, we start.
• 26:02
  Speaker 4: Off with with Braiden.
• 26:03
  Speaker 5: You know, Braiden coming off the ankle injury in college
• 26:07
  Speaker 5: that finished the season and probably.
• 26:08
  Speaker 4: Calls him to fall back a little bit in the draft.
• 26:10
  Speaker 5: He was somebody that we were really excited and we
• 26:12
  Speaker 5: even considered taking it five two years ago, and.
• 26:15
  Speaker 4: We wanted to, you know, get his feet.
• 26:17
  Speaker 5: Wet, so we started them in the low way to
• 26:18
  Speaker 5: start the year. I let get his fet underneath him
• 26:21
  Speaker 5: because he hadn't played in quite a while. And you know,
• 26:23
  Speaker 5: once he hit his stride, you know, he he really
• 26:25
  Speaker 5: took off. He had a great year, finished up in
• 26:27
  Speaker 5: Double A, had success at all three stops, and got
• 26:31
  Speaker 5: hit in the foot.
• 26:32
  Speaker 4: So he's out right now. He finished the season on
• 26:34
  Speaker 4: the I L. But he's going to be back for
• 26:37
  Speaker 4: the Fall League. So we're excited about seeing him.
• 26:39
  Speaker 5: Uh, you know, gets a better competition and uh, you know,
• 26:43
  Speaker 5: Hagen and Hagan and Noah, Uh, two nasty left handed pitchers,
• 26:47
  Speaker 5: two guys that were really excited about. You know, I
• 26:49
  Speaker 5: saw a lot of minor league baseball this year, and
• 26:52
  Speaker 5: I put their stuff up against you know, anybody. You know,
• 26:55
  Speaker 5: there was there was some bumps along the way this year. Uh,
• 26:58
  Speaker 5: namely the control. I got a got away from them
• 27:00
  Speaker 5: at times this year, but you know, the stuff never
• 27:03
  Speaker 5: suffered that.
• 27:04
  Speaker 4: These guys miss a lot of bats.
• 27:06
  Speaker 5: You know, they have a history of throwing strikes, so
• 27:08
  Speaker 5: we know we'll get back to more consistency there.
• 27:11
  Speaker 4: But we're really excited about them.
• 27:12
  Speaker 5: And you know, with with no finishing Triple A and
• 27:15
  Speaker 5: Hagen finishing Double A and you know, both those guys
• 27:18
  Speaker 5: UH slated to go to the Fall League, you know,
• 27:20
  Speaker 5: we're excited about getting additional looks at them and you know,
• 27:23
  Speaker 5: hope to see them at some point next year.
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: All right, Well, who's the one prospect, one person in
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: the organization that people might not know about that you're
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: really excited about. A prospect?
• 27:33
  Speaker 5: Wise, Uh, I'm gonna give you two's because it's hard
• 27:38
  Speaker 5: to hard to split them up. Cale Bonmer, guy that
• 27:42
  Speaker 5: we took last year, I believe with our second pick.
• 27:46
  Speaker 5: I believe and I don't even know if I'm supposed
• 27:48
  Speaker 5: to say this yet.
• 27:48
  Speaker 4: I think he was just named the MVP of the league.
• 27:53
  Speaker 4: You know, really excited about him.
• 27:54
  Speaker 5: Tremendous athlete, really physical, uh you know, played it, played
• 27:59
  Speaker 5: a strong short stop up and offensively, just really held
• 28:02
  Speaker 5: his own in the consistency from a guy that young
• 28:05
  Speaker 5: in his first full season. As you guys know, there's
• 28:07
  Speaker 5: an adjustment that comes with your first full season, especially
• 28:10
  Speaker 5: for a high schooler.
• 28:11
  Speaker 4: It was really really impressive what he was able to
• 28:14
  Speaker 4: do this year.
• 28:15
  Speaker 5: And then you know, Antonachi, he's another guy that we
• 28:17
  Speaker 5: took last year, you know, not as heralded as some
• 28:21
  Speaker 5: of these other guys, but the year he's been able
• 28:23
  Speaker 5: to put together has been nothing short of like amazing.
• 28:27
  Speaker 5: I mean, he's finished in Double A. He had over
• 28:30
  Speaker 5: eight hundred ops this year. He's going to go to
• 28:33
  Speaker 5: the Fall League. He's another guy that's not very far off,
• 28:35
  Speaker 5: and it's going to continue to get more and more
• 28:37
  Speaker 5: press as you know, as he continues to rise up
• 28:40
  Speaker 5: the ranks, and he's another guy that you could possibly
• 28:42
  Speaker 5: see it at some point next year as well.
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: All Right, Josh, for I let you go as a
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: White Sox fan, I'm raring my white suck shirt for
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: you guys.
• 28:48
  Speaker 4: I love it, guys. And yeah, you're a legend around here.
• 28:51
  Speaker 5: There's not a day that goes by that I don't
• 28:53
  Speaker 5: see a Prazinski jersey in the stands.
• 28:55
  Speaker 4: It's pretty impressive.
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: He's always one. There's always one, Josh. So let me
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: let me it's good and bad. But before I let
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: you go, I got to ask you this question. Gets
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: came out recently said Jerry's gonna let you spend next year.
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: So how much were talking We're talking like a couple
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: of million. Are we talking like enough to make this
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: team decent next year where we can talk about contending.
• 29:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's to be determined. Right.
• 29:17
  Speaker 5: We haven't had those conversations yet. You know those will
• 29:20
  Speaker 5: be upcoming here as we're you know, winding the year down.
• 29:22
  Speaker 5: But you know, either way, I do expect this team
• 29:26
  Speaker 5: to continue to, you know, make make strides. We saw
• 29:28
  Speaker 5: it from last year this year and you know, with
• 29:30
  Speaker 5: this young group, especially some of these guys getting their
• 29:32
  Speaker 5: first taste of it this year, they're going to be
• 29:34
  Speaker 5: a little bit more established and settled in another wave
• 29:36
  Speaker 5: coming in behind them next year. You know you hope
• 29:39
  Speaker 5: the Aero continues to trend in the right direction.
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: Josh, we appreciate it.
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: I'm glad you don't have to run through any sort
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: of buffalo fountains with socks on or not.
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: Good luck this upcoming season.
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: Really it's off season as you guys get ready to
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: get set for the twenty twenty sixth year.
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: We appreciate you taking the time to be with us.
• 29:59
  Speaker 4: Thank you, thank that's have me on great seen you mhmm.