Latest / Booked On Rock with Eric Senich / The 'Jagged Little Pill' Singles: Behind The Hits [Highlight From Episode 298]
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Let's go through the album's six singles. The album opens
- 0:03Speaker 1: with All I Really Want. It was the last song
- 0:06Speaker 1: written for the album. Glenn Ballad says, Alanis was really
- 0:09Speaker 1: spent by the time they put this song. Together.
- 0:11Speaker 2: Yeah, it was. But that line about the sweater, you know,
- 0:14Speaker 2: the backwards inside out. They just thought that that was
- 0:17Speaker 2: a great opening to the album because that really was
- 0:19Speaker 2: like the question leading into the rest of the album
- 0:22Speaker 2: to come.
- 0:22Speaker 1: The lead single from the album's track Too You Ought
- 0:24Speaker 1: to Know. A couple famous musicians appear on the track,
- 0:27Speaker 1: Dave Navarre on guitar, Flee on bass. Were they in
- 0:30Speaker 1: the same studio at the time this was? I can't
- 0:32Speaker 1: remember the story. There was some connection.
- 0:34Speaker 2: Yeah, it was actually through Guio Siri, who knew he
- 0:37Speaker 2: was part of Maverick, so he knew Lee and Dave Redhutchley.
- 0:41Speaker 2: Peppers went not on two at the time, and I
- 0:43Speaker 2: think the idea was they were really trying to figure
- 0:45Speaker 2: out where to kind of pivot or put Alanis. You know,
- 0:49Speaker 2: alternative radio was breaking at the time, it was super huge,
- 0:52Speaker 2: and I think there was an idea that she could
- 0:54Speaker 2: find her footing in there, but they needed to have
- 0:56Speaker 2: this really strong Rock Backbone, and so those two of
- 0:59Speaker 2: course added to the album. And yeah, I think k
- 1:02Speaker 2: Rock then was like, sure we should play this because
- 1:04Speaker 2: look who's on it.
- 1:05Speaker 1: Elnis thought about changing the lyrics at one point, but
- 1:08Speaker 1: Glenn Ballor talked her out of it. Why did she
- 1:09Speaker 1: want the lyrics to be changed?
- 1:12Speaker 2: I think she almost thought, am I going too far?
- 1:15Speaker 2: Should I really be saying these things? And I think
- 1:18Speaker 2: she at a point had qualms of opening up as
- 1:21Speaker 2: much as she did, and that of course being the
- 1:23Speaker 2: first song, which was her decision, but I think she
- 1:26Speaker 2: had a moment to pause and maybe reconsider hand.
- 1:29Speaker 1: In my pocket. She and Glenn were being hard on
- 1:31Speaker 1: themselves to come up with this song on this particular day.
- 1:34Speaker 1: So Alanis decided to start write about whatever's on my mind,
- 1:38Speaker 1: whatever I'm feeling.
- 1:39Speaker 2: Yeah, and that song is such a great kind of
- 1:41Speaker 2: snapshot of life in your twenties, all the contradictions, all
- 1:44Speaker 2: the weird ways life kind of confuses you. And it
- 1:48Speaker 2: was just what she was thinking about and a great
- 1:49Speaker 2: example of her stream of consciousness writing.
- 1:51Speaker 1: And then you learn another huge crossover hit number six
- 1:54Speaker 1: on Billboard about life lessons and how they can be
- 1:57Speaker 1: hard pills to swallow, Alanis, she did swallowed some hard pills.
- 2:01Speaker 1: When she arrived in La, she was robbed a gunpoint.
- 2:03Speaker 2: Yeah, it's weird. Alana's has been robbed several times in
- 2:05Speaker 2: her life. It's super strange. But the most pivotal was
- 2:08Speaker 2: when here she was this innocent Canadian fresh to LA
- 2:11Speaker 2: and got a stark slap in the face of reality.
- 2:13Speaker 2: When she was walking home one night from the gym.
- 2:16Speaker 2: She had two backpacks with her one head her jim gear.
- 2:18Speaker 2: One had her lyrics in her notebook with the material
- 2:20Speaker 2: of Jagged Little Pill, and she was robbed at gunpoint
- 2:23Speaker 2: and she was on the ground and she was just
- 2:25Speaker 2: praying in her head, please take the one bag and
- 2:27Speaker 2: not my backpack with the lyrics in it, And thankfully
- 2:29Speaker 2: they did it.
- 2:30Speaker 1: Head over Feet when she wrote this, she was experiencing
- 2:33Speaker 1: a new kind of relationship.
- 2:35Speaker 2: Yeah, so everyone thinks, you know, she was tagged as
- 2:37Speaker 2: as angry young woman when she came to the surface,
- 2:40Speaker 2: because if you ought to know, and the passion in
- 2:41Speaker 2: that song, but there's so many emotions on this album
- 2:44Speaker 2: and Head over her Feet is really about feeling in
- 2:47Speaker 2: love and it was about a friend who had turned
- 2:49Speaker 2: into something more and it was just really pure emotion
- 2:51Speaker 2: about feeling very content with someone.
- 2:53Speaker 1: You did mention ironic. This all started with something she
- 2:56Speaker 1: said while she and Glenn were having lunch.
- 2:59Speaker 2: Yes, actually would meet for meals. It's how they would
- 3:01Speaker 2: start their sessions. They would just have a conversation, tea
- 3:05Speaker 2: food in a studio and that's how they would get
- 3:07Speaker 2: the sort of wheels moving and turning to start creating
- 3:10Speaker 2: the song for that day.
- 3:11Speaker 1: And I had no idea she took so much heat
- 3:13Speaker 1: from the grammar police on the song. I really didn't
- 3:16Speaker 1: know who cares. The song's great. But yeah, she could
- 3:20Speaker 1: have called it coincidental, right if I know.
- 3:23Speaker 2: But like it wouldn't have the same ring to it.
- 3:25Speaker 2: But it's you know, she's been a good sport about it.
- 3:27Speaker 2: She's redone the song for modern times. You know, she
- 3:30Speaker 2: did it during COVID about waiting for your Amazon package
- 3:32Speaker 2: to arrive. I mean, she's gonna