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Martin Armstrong: The Need WW3 to Mask Dollar Collapse & Force CBDC · Man in America Podcast

• 0:13
  Seth Holehouse: Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to Man in America. I'm your host, Seth Hullhouse. Right now, we're seeing a lot of rumors of war. World War three is, for a lot of people in their perspective, right around the corner. And it's pretty concerning because this isn't some joke.
• 0:31
  I mean, we literally just had Putin have a huge parade as he visited North Korea as showing their solidarity their solidarity and their alignment, you know, really against, you know, America and NATO. You're seeing a lot of other things happening, lot of posturing. There's discussion about the draft here in America. So there's all these indicators that are showing that something is coming. And a lot of experts are saying, yeah, like World War three.
• 0:54
  This is what's coming. It's real. It's not a joke. And so joining us today to help make sense of this is one of the best people in my opinion when it comes to understanding geopolitics and war, and that's Martin Armstrong. So we're talking about why these discussions of war happening, what's really going on, how the financial system affects war, what will happen with the election, how it affects that, and a whole lot more.
• 1:19
  So, folks, please enjoy the interview with Martin Armstrong. Mister Armstrong, it is a pleasure and an honor to have you back on the show. Thank you very much for giving us your time today.
• 1:31
  Speaker 2: It's always a pleasure to be with you. You're one of the few people actually know how to ask real questions.
• 1:38
  Seth Holehouse: That's that's a that's a quite the compliment coming from you. I I appreciate that. So well, let's just let's just dive straight into the real questions then. The talk right now is World War three. There's obviously there's a lot of things that you know, there's bird flu.
• 1:53
  There's who's gonna be, you know, president. There's a lot things going on, but if you look at not just the talk, but all the different indicators, the, you know, the economic war for the new rounds of sanctions against Russia, the Russian, you know, ships and submarines off the coast of Florida and Cuba, we just had Putin meeting with king Kim Jong Un with a huge, you know, as you'd say, ticker tape parade, you know, like, really massive parade happening in North Korea. So it seems like there's a lot of indicators that show that we are on the precipice of a real World War three. And you're persona I oftentimes go to, I wanna understand the cycles of war, the cycles of economics, their relationship between each other, and timing of things. So what do you see is from your perspective and your research, is World War three around the corner?
• 2:44
  Is it a real possibility? What do you see playing out? Because I'd love to hear your thoughts on this.
• 2:51
  Speaker 2: Yes. I mean, I don't think there's a question. You have to understand that Biden is just really a hand puppet. And I'm not being political here. And this is part of the problem.
• 3:09
  The the real role of the president in a cabinet meeting is supposed to be the referee between all these agencies because effectively, they all are like two year old children. They all went their own way. Right? And because he's not there, you have the neocons being led really by Blanken at this stage, and they just simply want war. And I've known a lot of these neocons for for for decades.
• 3:46
  And I can tell you even back in the days of of Ronald Reagan when I was down there, Reagan wanted to meet with Gorbachev. And they said, oh, you can never trust a Russian. So I think, basically, they just grew up hating Russia and China because they were communists. And when communism fell, they just turned it into racism. You know, there's no other explanation for it, really.
• 4:18
  But these people, unfortunately, have weaseled their way into positions of power. And you have to understand they're not Democrat or Republican. I mean, I know Bill Crystal. He even spoke at one of our conferences back in the 90s. And I used to argue with him.
• 4:48
  His position was that if you removed all these dictators in the Middle East, you create peace, Regime change. And I said, you know, this I argued this is not gonna you know, that's crazy. Now Bill was in the White House chief of staff for Dan for Quayle in the Republican side. Now he's over advising the Democrats. Why?
• 5:11
  Because they just want war. And they'll go either side, whoever's gonna give a talk. And, unfortunately, you have a lot of I just got back from Europe. Same thing over there. The main reason you have this tendency to go towards war is that financially, the system is collapsing.
• 5:41
  And you have Blinken, for example, threatening China. We're going to go into Taiwan, blah, blah, blah, all this stuff. Well, China is the number one holder of U. S. Debt.
• 5:55
  And they sold 53,000,000,000 in the first quarter. So then you have Janet Yellen. And that's what I mean at these cabinet meetings. Janet Yellen hopping on a plane running over to China, say, please continue to buy our bonds. And they go, well, what?
• 6:12
  We should buy another hundred billion so you can buy missiles to shoot us? You know? I mean, it's it's just total chaos at this point. I I honestly, I've dealt with Washington for nearly fifty years. I've never seen such chaos in my entire life.
• 6:30
  And so they know they're going to default. The way historically a government defaults is when you're in these Ponzi schemes and you have to sell new debt to pay off the old. What happens is is it begins to crash when you can't sell the new debt anymore to to pay off the, you know, the old debt. That's when the default comes. I know a lot of people are saying, oh, you know, 34,000,000,000,000.
• 7:03
  That's not the issue. The issue is as long as they keep rolling it, that's fine. Doesn't matter. It could be, you know, a quadrillion. But when people stop buying, that's the problem.
• 7:16
  And you got two factors here. One, you've got Blinken just looking after his own self interest of creating war. And I did put out, you know, on on our blog, I did the research. It's very curious that Blinken, Victoria Newland and and even Garland, they all trace their heritage to where? Kiev.
• 7:45
  It's a conflict of interest. And, you know, they basically say that their families were prosecuted by the Russians. This they should not be in these positions. That's a that's a conflict of interest. They're driving us to war for personal vendettas.
• 8:06
  And people have to understand this, and they really should be hauled out of there. But Europe is a basket case with the debt issues too. And, you know, when you have everybody supporting Ukraine and all this stuff and Estonia, all
• 8:28
  Speaker 3: of Ukraine falls, we all fall. I mean,
• 8:31
  Speaker 2: it's it's nuts. And then then you had Estonia, you know, the minister come out and said, well, Russia should be we'll break it up into different parts. Can you imagine if Russia said that about The United States? You know, I think it would be taken seriously. You know?
• 8:51
  And I don't see any choice here but war. I mean, Putin Putin's the only adult in the room. He knows what and just look at our press and how bad it is. Putin comes out and says about, you know, is this where you're going to go with World War three? But we got this.
• 9:15
  We got this. And the West says, oh, he's threatening war. No. He's trying to warn you. Wake up.
• 9:20
  Is this where you want to go? If he wanted to go to war, he would just push the button. Right? And you don't it's like a barking dog doesn't bite. You know?
• 9:31
  It's he's trying to war in the West. And the people behind him are the Russian neocons. Just like we have ours, China has theirs, etcetera. And they just would like, you know, love to kill every American. You know, just the same way Lincoln would like to completely kill every every Russian.
• 9:54
  You know, it's these people, I think, have just never gotten over the Cold War. You know, things changed, and they they did not. Unfortunately, they're doing everything they can to bring us towards, you know, this precipice. And, you know, Putin is having to respond because these guys behind it keep saying, you're a fool. We told you, you know, this is not a war with Ukraine.
• 10:24
  This is a war against The United States and NATO. NATO. And he's having to, know, actually, you know, confront that issue. This has got nothing to do with Ukraine anymore. And When you mentioned It's just crazy.
• 10:41
  Seth Holehouse: Clarify. So you mentioned the the debt and how the debt ties into works is really important because, you know, I've talked a lot on this show with various guests about, you know, the money printing and the the trillions and trillions of dollars in debt. And what you're saying is that, if I was saying correctly, is that it's not the amount of debt. You know, we could have $200,000,000,000,000 in debt. As long as the countries around the world keep buying up that debt, we've got a stable currency.
• 11:05
  But I've I've looked recently at some of the charts showing that China is you see a direct correlation of dumping US treasuries and buying gold. Right? So they're converting their their The US debt they're holding into gold, which is not good for us. So what you're saying is that it's it's the wind that the demand for the dollar drops around the world, that's what then causes that currency and all that debt then becomes a problem because the Ponzi, you know, the Bernie Madoff can't find the next customer to pay the last customer, right? Correct.
• 11:37
  How does so two questions for you. One is that are you seeing a trend of more countries dumping US debt to the to to a point that would be alarming to you? And then following up with that, which I'll I'll come back to with you, is how does having a war reset the monetary system? How does having a war get them out of trouble with the monetary system? So you you can answer either of those questions as you'd like.
• 12:04
  Speaker 2: If if just look historically. Every time you have a war, World War one, World War two, even in The United States, they're a revolution. Alright? They did not honor the debts of the previous government. This is how they get out of it.
• 12:19
  Oh, we're a new government. All right? And they basically default on all the debt of the previous. This is standard. And I can tell you I mean, I have, you know, very deep sources.
• 12:36
  What's going on is the whole digital currency thing. It's it's really the IMF created a digital coin. And a lot of people don't seem to understand this. The the real agenda here is they want war. That then necessitates gives them the excuse to default on all the debt.
• 13:02
  The dollar is to be replaced with the IMF coin. Alright? Everybody will then have digital currencies, which will then internationally trade through the UN, alright, and the IMF. And the the UN is planning, honestly, to raise its status by being the peacemaker. That so they want war and then say, see, we saved the world.
• 13:31
  This is what's going on.
• 13:34
  Seth Holehouse: So so it's it's a series of things then. Right? It's like, so here, I'll pull up this real quick. Here's the, you know, IMF. Here's one, you know, one recent announcement from 2022, the future of money gearing up for CBDCs in range of currency Mhmm.
• 13:48
  By the, you know, manning director out of Washington DC. So that starts to make sense to me now how this all fits together that the the the US dollar and this, you know, this debt based system they've created is on its last leg. It's it's they've they've they've pulled they've they've squeezed all the juice out of the lemon, and it's basically dead. A war then resets that debt. They can come in whatever then emerges in America post war.
• 14:18
  So, okay, that debt is wiped clean. Right? It's like, know, because that was from the previous organ the previous government. But then what you're saying is that so it's a twofold, though, is that war then wipes the debt, but then once the debt's wiped, that currency system is removed, then the the solution coming in is the central bank digital currency. So that's how debt, war, and CBDC are all tied together and interlinked.
• 14:43
  Is that a good understanding?
• 14:46
  Speaker 2: Yes. A lot of people just focus on The US, and US is actually in the best shape. What really makes the dollar the reserve currency is that we have the largest consumer based economy.
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• 16:39
  Speaker 2: So everybody has needed to sell to the American consumer from Japanese, Chinese, Germans, etcetera. That's how they rose from the ashes of World War two. Now when they were forming the euro, they came to me. I met with them, said this is how we design it, etcetera. And they were pitching that, oh, everybody will pay one interest and it will be, you know, it will dethrone the dollar.
• 17:14
  And I said, this is absolutely nonsense. I said, first of all, you have to end up consolidating all the debt and having a national debt for Europe. They wouldn't do that. And I was told, look, we just want to get the euro through first, and then we'll worry about the debt later. They never have.
• 17:35
  All right. The reason for that was that Chancellor Kohl in Germany at the time, he did not allow the German people to vote on joining the euro. He even admitted afterwards that he acted like a dictator because he would have lost seven to one. So he knew the Germans were very conservative debt wise. So it was his action that said, no, I'll join the euro unilaterally.
• 18:11
  Deny the Germans the right to vote, but you can't consolidate the debt. So that's where we're why we're in this situation. Europe is far worse in The United States because its economy is so Marxist, you know, restrictions, climate change, every regulation under the sun. America is far more free to be able to start a business or whatever. That's why that that's the real backing behind the dollar.
• 18:45
  It's got nothing to do with the government or anything else. And every country is in a fiat system. They all do the same thing. There's no real exception. Now the reason China's buying gold, don't look at it from an investor standpoint.
• 19:04
  They could care less if it goes up or if it goes down. That's not the issue. Once the Biden administration imposed sanctions on Russia, froze their assets, all right, using, you know, giving all the profits now to Ukraine, you have to be brain dead to leave your money in the West. So this BRICS operation has got nothing to do with, you know, gold or anything else. It's it is basically The United States use the dollar as a weapon.
• 19:42
  So geopolitically, you don't own the currency of your opponent. Because what would happen, you go to war US, which is simply default on all the debt that China has. We're not paying you. So it's much more deeper than a lot of people are looking at. It's got nothing to do with with gold or finance and all they think gold's going to go up.
• 20:08
  No. This has got to do with I got to get away from The United States because they're not trustworthy. Biden had gone in and has done actually what Obama, you know, attempted first. Back in 2014 when Russia went to Crimea, Obama went to the SWIFT system and said, we want to remove Russia. And they refused.
• 20:35
  They said, you're not gonna turn this into a weapon. So what did they do? They replaced the head of SWIFT in 2019. He does whatever they tell him. So he's basically committed suicide.
• 20:50
  So now you have China has its chip system. Iran's developing currency in transactions to the ruble is China. No longer the dollar. Blinken and his crew, go, oh, we'll put these sanctions on. That will hurt their economy.
• 21:15
  Sorry, didn't work. You know, they don't understand the world economy. And they're they're like a bull in a China shop just running around smashing into everything. Well, maybe this will work, you know. Their hatred of Russia is just unbelievable.
• 21:34
  And, you know, honestly, I mean, I think that they would, you know, would nuke Canada to get three Russians. I mean, this is what they just hate hate Russians, period. I know one Russian that from thirty years ago, we had met back in Tokyo. And, you know, I was communicating with her and she asked me, she says, why do they hate us so much? She's not in government or anything else, just an average person.
• 22:07
  I said, you know, it's what what do you want me to say? They they do just hate you. They didn't do anything. But, you know, I mean, the average Russian, the average American, the average Chinese didn't didn't nobody wants war. War is always created by the elite.
• 22:28
  I think it was the oldest surviving veteran from World War one said so many people died. We should have just taken all the leaders, thrown them in a room, give them a gun, and say, you settle it. And you would save 45,000,000 people. You know? But this is the way it goes.
• 22:48
  Seth Holehouse: So what do you think the timeline of this looks like? So and, I mean, I know that we're still kinda grasping at straws to a certain degree here looking peering into the future, but if you look at just the the tensions that are rising, and and almost every day, new is happening that's showing that we're moving more towards war. I mean, even looking at Putin meeting with Kim Jong Un. Right? That's a significant deal.
• 23:11
  Like, it's a major, display of power. Right? That it's this very strong posturing to the West. So do you think what do you think war would look like? Like, would it be would you foresee something on American soil?
• 23:28
  I mean, what do you think that would look like? And what kind of timeline are you seeing or is Socrates highlighting?
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: The tensions really start to rise in July. And my concern is that just look at the election in Europe on June 9. There was an overwhelming shift to what they call the far right, which is ironic. But today, the far right is the anti war party, and the left is the war party. What they call themselves the centrist.
• 24:13
  Yeah. A centrist, of course. You know? But my concern, you know, and speaking, you know, with key sources in France, the concern is that Macron dismissed the parliament. Even a new parliament can't get rid of him.
• 24:42
  He has to fill, you know, fill out his term until 2027. But Macron is solely in charge of the military. And the parliament is really more on the domestic side. And the concern is that he will he's part of this whole warmongering posture. And criticism of him in France is that he is part of what they call the the de Gaulle dream, that France would lead Europe.
• 25:24
  And so all of a sudden, he went from, you know, peacemaker meeting with Putin, etcetera, to warmonger. And we're we're gonna send troops into into Ukraine, etcetera. He knows that would be World War three. But he's trying to be the leader. He's trying to make France the new leader of Europe.
• 25:46
  This is the concern that, to do that, he is increasing the tensions dramatically and may attempt to do so in July, mainly to to say, see, I was right. So there's a lot of very, you know, deep concern as to what's going on in France. The elections in Europe clearly show really a landslide in the opposite direction. People are fed up with everything from climate change. I mean, you name it.
• 26:27
  I mean, I was just in Rome. And honestly, my family took me there when I was 13. And ever since I've been there, I've probably been the room more than a hundred times, I always went to this one restaurant that my family had taken me to. It was nice. It overlooked Trajan's Forum.
• 26:45
  It's closed. The Via Veneto, they used to be full of of sidewalk cafes. There were maybe three. The the devastation from COVID and the loss of businesses and jobs Italy was quite dramatic. I was, you know, shocked to see, you know, the huge difference.
• 27:11
  But, you know, that brings us largely to our election. And, you know, the computer shows the same thing that Trump would win and it could be quite sharp. And so what's going on there is I can tell you from the very beginning, I mean, our computer had put Apple for whoever was going to be in January '20 '20. I was shocked, but the computer's right. Would not be, you know, would not run again or fill out his terms.
• 27:55
  I was kind of shocked as I was initially thinking, well, maybe if Trump wins, what's that mean? He's assassinated or something? But, you know, when we now look at what Biden is, I can see what the computer was saying was correct. You know? What's happening there is Biden was their perfect president because he's just a hand puppet.
• 28:17
  And they got to all do whatever they wanted to do. EPA outlawed gas stoves and stuff. I mean, grew up with a gas stove. I think I'm still alive. But you have basically Biden initially saying he would not debate Trump.
• 28:36
  He's not worthy of a Trump of of a debate. And now there's two debates scheduled. You have his performance at the G seven Pathetic. You've got newspapers starting to come out and saying he's failing behind closed doors. Working with Washington for nearly fifty years, this is the way they do it.
• 29:02
  We call it a balloon. They float the idea out first. All right. People get used to it. Then what they intend to do is Biden will they know he's going to look stupid at these debates.
• 29:19
  And at the convention, they're going to basically just draft Hillary. Some of the woke people are saying that Newsom should be
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: the vice president. Said, oh my god. I mean, you know, I don't know what, you know.
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: But, you know, they are so got their their head so far up. Honestly, they're having their own ass with this woke stuff. They think that's great, you know. But she will probably end up as the nominee mainly because the talk there is, well, she beat Trump before on a popular vote. I you know, it and there's probably nobody who would more polarize the country than Hillary.
• 30:13
  And what you have to understand is the neocons are in full control. They've you know, you've got the the the Dutch minister going to, you know, take over NATO. Solid neocon. All these people would, you know, love to just nuke Russia. And so would Hillary.
• 30:38
  And so the neocons, I think, are going to basically steer it so that Hillary gets it because she's one of them. She was involved in the whole attempt to rig the Russian elections back in, you know, February, which even brought Putin to power. And that's why she was blaming Trump. Oh, you know, Putin was interfered. Why?
• 31:07
  Oh, because I I criticized an election. That was not it. It was that she interfered in the February. But it it's I think that's what you're looking at. And that's not the computer saying that.
• 31:25
  That's basically my sources that are saying Hillary. The computer does say that that Trump should win. Now knowing these guys, they are so close to World War three. And I mean, they can taste that power. And the brass ring is right there for them.
• 31:49
  All right. I went to Mar A Largo back in March of twenty when Trump was still president. It was the only time I would say, as you know, I've met so many different heads of state. He actually impressed me. And because he said he wanted to pull the troops out of Afghanistan, but it was the reason.
• 32:13
  He said he wanted he was sick and tired of writing letters to their families to say that they died for a god and country. And to quote him, he said, what are we doing there? They've been arguing over borders for a thousand years. What difference are we going to make? Alright.
• 32:31
  That's why the deep state was so against Trump, etcetera. He's against war. He's even made recent statements that he would end that war within, you know, the first week of of taking office. And he understands that. I mean, look, I was good friends with Maggie Thatcher.
• 32:55
  I never heard I loved Maggie. She was great. She was the Falklands War. But no head of state has ever concerned themselves with the people that die on the battlefield. And the and the broken families, they're left behind.
• 33:12
  And I think it's mainly because Trump wasn't a career politician. I think that was really the difference because everybody else that I have ever met had no problem with that. But they were, like, settled themselves into, well, that's war. So I think that's what we're really looking at.
• 33:32
  Seth Holehouse: So question about Trump. Because you can see that there's a timeline they're rushing to create war before he potentially gets in. Right? Because it's, you know, it's one of his the the foundational things that seems to come about him is he's very anti war, unless needed. But he, you know, he will actively pull us out of wars.
• 33:49
  He sees the bigger picture, and he's not just this warmonger. So considering what we talked about earlier with where the debt is at, and how war becomes a solution to solving that debt, and then bringing in a CBDC. If Trump gets in and prevents us from going into war because I think there is a a a respect, you know, with with Putin and Xi, Kim Jong un, etcetera. They they at least respect Trump as a leader, right, in ways that they don't look at Biden, of course. So if he does get in, we don't go to war, he prevents that.
• 34:23
  What then happens to the debt? Like, because now that they've they've lost the ability to fix that all with their, you know, war clears the slate mentality.
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: Well, he's actually made some comments about basically the debt, restructuring the debt, etcetera. My concern is this. There is so much power on the table for these people. Although the computer says that Trump should win, personally, I can't see how they can possibly allow that. I mean, all these legal process, you know, suits against, they've done just about everything.
• 35:09
  What's left? I think if they cannot rig it one way or the other, they're I'm concerned that they would assassinate him. Create some sort of a false flag, blame MAGA, whatever. I would be the the computer does not like September. September is showing high volatility, craziness, and it seems to be around the world.
• 35:46
  I think that, you know, one strategy that they would have with Trump is you have to create the war before the election. And I wrote about this actually about two years ago. I said the plan was to create some sort of war during the summer of of twenty twenty four. And I say these are these come from the computer, not me. Nobody talks to me in the middle of the night.
• 36:18
  The same thing I wrote at least two years ago, I said, you know, Russia's going to band together with North Korea, China and Iran. I don't think I even needed a computer to figure that out. I mean, really. I mean, if you just basically, you're you're they're all your enemies. So your enemy is my friend.
• 36:44
  I mean, I don't see where that should be a shock. And and then bringing anything into Cuba, of course. And I would do the same thing with Venezuela. And look, I mean, I I am I think that they may create something in September. And Putin is is very smart, And they've done everything they can to try and get him to attack.
• 37:24
  I mean, even giving these F-16s and saying, go ahead, you can go even bomb Moscow if you want. Oh, but we're not doing it. You know? I mean, come on. I mean, this is we're at war.
• 37:35
  They know that. Britain's at war. US is at war. NATO is at war with Russia. This is it.
• 37:43
  It's not declared, but it is definitely there. So they're trying to get him to do something. And what they even did with the f sixteens, okay, we're giving him to Ukraine, but you can park them in Poland and Romania, hoping that he'll at least attack those planes when they're on the ground. Oh, you attacked a NATO country. You know, this is what they want.
• 38:15
  Putin is restraining. And I as I say, he's like the only adult in the room. I think he understands what they're desperately trying to do. But that doesn't put out, you know, remove the threat of them creating a false flag, just like Hitler did with the Bundestag, you know, and set it on fire and blame the communists,
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: you know, who happened
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: to be Polish. And that justified going into Poland, you know. So, I mean, I would be very concerned. And I think they're going to do it after the Democratic convention, which I think is August 19 that week. So the computer definitely does not like September at all.
• 39:06
  And it's showing the tensions rising from July on. So that may be Macron because he also has been suffered a devastating loss. But as I said, the way the French power is, the parliament has the domestic power, but he has the military power. So he does not need their approval. He can do whatever he wants.
• 39:35
  And that's what a lot of people in France are very concerned about and other places in Europe as well. So I I would definitely let's see what happens, but I think they're they're gonna try and create something in September. And if they can create a war and, you know, have one or two scenarios. If Trump does get in, he's trapped into a war. Or they create a war and then basically take him out, died of bird flu or something.
• 40:14
  You know? You know, whatever it is that they would say, I wouldn't trust anything from they they've lied about absolutely every single war to date. I mean, the tapes are out on JFK. He lied to the nation. He and even said, you know, for all he knew that they were just shooting at whales that night.
• 40:39
  We were never attacked. Weapons of mass destruction. I mean, just go down the line. They have never told the truth about a single war, and they're not telling the truth about this one.
• 40:51
  Seth Holehouse: I mean, isn't truth the first casualty of war? Right?
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: Look. I can tell you because I have staff in Kiev and in Donetsk. They swear the election for for Zelenskyy was rigged over there. And but Victoria Newlin, after the revolution, stuck in an interim government, unelected, and ordered them to start the civil war and attack the Donbas. And that's where all this has come from.
• 41:31
  It was not Russia. Russia came in, as he said, a special operation to defend the Donbas against Kyiv, which had launched a a war. I mean, you know, you can look on Google it. I mean, Zelenskyy to make sure that that Putin entered Ukraine the night before, alright, stood up and said, Ukraine is going to arm itself with nuclear weapons. The very night before that's been published.
• 42:06
  I can tell you what's going on in Ukraine. I know a number of people that are in the dissent there. Within every government, you have pro and con. All right? And to put it bluntly, a lot of them say if if Zelensky was on fire, they wouldn't urinate on him until he was dead.
• 42:34
  But that the hatred of Zelenskyy has come when they've it made the front pages of Ukrainian news. There was a peace deal struck. Putin would, you know, told the truth when he was on Tucker. What happened? Boris Johnson hopped on a plane, went over there and said, you're not allowed to seek peace.
• 42:59
  That made the front pages. So the view in Ukraine is that we're not allowed to even seek peace for our own country without the permission of Blinken and Washington. So they view him as as many people are viewing him as a traitor. Actually, on May 7, '2 colonels tried to assassinate him. And they were arrested.
• 43:23
  And he called it, oh, a Russian plot. No, it's not. I was saying months before, I said, anybody's going to assassinate this guy, it's going to be from the inside. They hate him so much that he's just a traitor. He he's not there for the people.
• 43:40
  And since Boris Johnson went over and killed that peace deal, over 500,000 Ukrainians have died. How many more you want? Nobody cares about Ukrainians, and nobody cares about the country. This is all about war with Russia, period. That's it.
• 43:59
  If every Ukrainian dies, oh my god. Look at that. How about that? We have to get Russia. That's all they care about.
• 44:07
  Seth Holehouse: Do you think that we could see any kind of action in your kinetic and and whatnot here on American soil? And do you think that it it could come to that?
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. I mean
• 44:24
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• 45:25
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• 45:31
  Speaker 2: I can tell you I don't know what's been in the press, but from my sources, what these neocons are saying, is that Russians, nuclear arms are old, antiquated, and if you push the button, they probably wouldn't work. This is what they're saying. That intelligence said that Russia was going to retire about 1,500 missiles. So their view is it's all nothing but pounding the chest. And they think that Russia is can be taken.
• 46:13
  You actually had one congressman there from Illinois who thought we could beat Russia in three days. I mean, I I I just you know, fine. He's got more nuclear weapons than we do. So let's say he pushes every button and only five work. I think that's enough.
• 46:33
  You know? I mean, it's but this is what's being said behind the curtain that I hear. Oh, their weapons are old. They're antiquated, and they probably wouldn't work anyhow. Probably.
• 46:49
  What if you're wrong? But this is this is I don't know. I don't know how I ended up in this position, but it seems like everybody ends up calling me. I feel sometimes like I'm the international priest. You know?
• 47:07
  Yes. Go ahead. Blow up that city. Use a nuke. Say three Hail Marys, and you're fine.
• 47:12
  You know? I don't know. It's just nuts. They're all crazy at this point.
• 47:17
  Seth Holehouse: They are. And and, gosh, the the world just seems crazy. It's it's hard to look at the way things are right now and not see that there's something's gotta give. I don't know what it is, but, like, the the the current track that we're on is just not sustainable. They're they're it's like we we took the we took the wrong turn a long time ago, and now we're realizing it.
• 47:40
  And everyone's like, oh my goodness. What's this world come to? And so there has to be some sort of big change. And I don't know what it looks like. A lot of times, maybe war might be the precursor to that, but something has to change.
• 47:53
  Like, I don't I can't envision a future for my children that they can grow up in based upon our current circumstances. I I just can't see it. It's not it's not good in that position.
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: I can tell you I've I've probably talked to more central banks than anybody in the world. They are in trouble. Why? Because Keynes in economics is failing. Alright.
• 48:26
  When Keynes came up with this idea raising lower and lowering interest rates to affect us, The US had a balanced budget. So the interest rates affected the private sector, not government. Today, government is the biggest borrower in the system. The central banks have been stripped of their power because raising interest rates to stop inflation only causes it because now the government spends even more. All right.
• 48:56
  So we got interest expenditures exceeding a trillion dollars. When Ronald Reagan came to power, the national debt was 1,000,000,000,000. All right. Now, I can tell you that Powell came out in December and he said the spending is not sustainable. That is the first time the head of of of the Fed has criticized the government since 1951.
• 49:33
  What the number one golden rule in central banking, you do not criticize the administration. He did. Alright. And what he is saying is this is getting out of control. He says it's not sustainable because now you go into war.
• 49:53
  And spending basically just escalates. I think even Trump said, you know, Zelensky came here, got $60,000,000,000, went home in the very next day, says he needs another 60,000,000,000. I mean, Biden has created more billionaires, you know, than any other administration. They're all just in Ukraine. That's it.
• 50:16
  You know, where's all this money go? There's no accountability. Nobody will even take a pen and paper and just look at any of this. It is such a black hole. And and so much of it ends up in the black market.
• 50:34
  Politicians end up with money, you know, off to their their their second removed cousin. So it's not, you know, not theirs. I mean, we are at a precipice, and I agree. This is not sustainable. They they need work to basically create the like you do on a computer, you hit control alt delete, you know, to reset it.
• 51:02
  And that's what our computer is showing is coming in 02/1932. I think we're you know, I get much more, I would say, many more emails today than I did three years ago. I now see your computer's right, 02/1932. Can we even make it that far? But we're looking at the collapse of Republican forms of government.
• 51:30
  We're going to have to create a new form. You know, do we go to a direct democracy where we're at least, you know, they they claim we live in a democracy, but we do not. We don't we're not asked, shall we go to war with Russia or not? Nobody ever asks us that question. They just do whatever they want.
• 51:50
  That's a dictatorship. I mean, even Vietnam, you were 18 years old. You could be drafted to go die for your country. You couldn't you weren't old enough to have a drink. You weren't old enough, you know, to vote.
• 52:04
  But that's democracy. I mean, hypocrisy that these people, you know, put out is just it's it's endless. So I agree. It's not sustainable. Or, you know, the light at the end of the tunnel is that this is all going to collapse.
• 52:21
  And I want people to understand what neocons are. And to save our future, these people have to be dragged out of government. I think it's a generational thing. I mean, back in the, you know, you had red scares in the in the thirties, the forties, the fifties, McCarthy, etc. And they just never got over this.
• 52:49
  I'm not sure the younger generations today have the same attitudes. But these people from that era are just filled with hatred. And it's consuming the entire country. And unfortunately, they've done everything they can to weasel into positions of power. And I find it, as I said, you know, Blinken Garland and Victoria Newland all have direct contact.
• 53:19
  Their families were persecuted for being Jews by the Russians, and they're all targeted to Ukraine. That's not right, and they should not be in charge of this policy.
• 53:33
  Seth Holehouse: I couldn't agree more. Martin, there's a lot to reflect on. Before we sign off, wanna pull up your website. This is where people can can follow you. Armstrongeconomics.com.
• 53:45
  I'll make sure the link is in there below. You've also got you mentioned you recently released this 2020 coup document on here. Also, I'd say the migrant, you know, migrant crisis is probably pretty important as well. But you're you're known for releasing these very, very comprehensive documents. I've got a couple of your massive books sitting on my in my library.
• 54:06
  So, again, that's armstrongeconomics.com. Martin, it's it's always a pleasure having you on. I'm sure we're gonna have a lot of updates as the year continues, and thank you for doing what you're doing.
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: Well, it's we're we're heading into the eye of the storm, I guess, from July to September.
• 54:24
  Seth Holehouse: That's true. That's true. Well, thanks again for being here with us.
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: Well, thank you for inviting me. It's always great to see you.
• 54:32
  Seth Holehouse: Thank you. Folks, I hope you enjoyed that interview. I've actually got something really exciting for you. So I'm a big fan of art, and I'm a big fan of people that stand up against the man, against the deep state, the cabal, whatever you wanna call them. And as you probably know, the entire movie and entertainment industry has been completely hijacked by a communist, you could even say satanic agenda.
• 54:57
  And so it's been very difficult to get non communist and satanic, information, especially movies and music, etcetera, that are actually promoting good traditional values, into the mainstream. You remember seeing, Sound of Freedom. It was such a big deal that was playing in theaters across the nation. So there's actually a really, really exciting film called The Relentless Patriot that is now, literally right now, in movie theaters today. You can go see it tonight if you wanted to.
• 55:25
  So this is the here's the Fandango listing, literally. This is did nine zero two one o as a you can see the the this Patriot. You can see it's in it's in playing in movies. This is an incredible, incredible movie that highlights the life of Scott Labeto as an artist that has been completely outcast from the artistic community, but he is standing strong, and what he stands for is absolutely incredible. So I'm gonna go ahead and just play the trailer for it.
• 55:54
  It's a really, really inspiring trailer. I think you're gonna enjoy it. But remember, this is out in theaters right now. So watch the trailer. Go check out your local movie theater listings.
• 56:04
  Find it playing. Go see it. Bring your friends. Bring families. It's one of the few movies that we can actually bring people to that will leave thinking, gosh, I should care more about this country, or gosh, I'm thankful I live in such an amazing country.
• 56:18
  It's also the way that we should be supporting other Patriot artists by going to see these films in theaters, because if enough people go see it in the theater, they'll keep it in the theater longer. It helps with the box office sales. It helps bring more money back into the movie studios that are daring enough to stand up against this entire system. So folks, here's the trailer for the Relentless Patriot.
• 56:43
  Speaker 3: 11 old girl shot in the face because of broke criminal law and district attorneys. Come on. Run. Run. This is a street performance.
• 56:54
  Seems like all the artist activists are on the left. Except Scott Barbato. I do not conform to the elitist isms of the art clubs, and they have left me like a redheaded stepchild. This is my medium in which I shall create, and this is my canvas, the front of the Brooklyn Museum. The first most important thing in school or anywhere else is the pledge of allegiance.
• 57:16
  This is not an pro war protest. This has to do with the increasing level of anti Americanism. You don't keep the criminals in jail? They're gonna keep you in jail. This line is to show respect and honor to those who died, got shot in the fucking head protecting us.
• 57:39
  You try to take that fucking blue line down. I'll paint it till the day I die.
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: When the towers came down, there was absolutely no doubt that that feeling. It was gonna change my life, and it
• 57:54
  Speaker 3: did. When somebody's complaining, I it's so cold out. You know, I did the traffic. And here I am drinking with one of these guys who's got one arm. He's got a hook for another arm, and he's drinking a fucking beer, having a laugh with me, and he's not bitching about nothing.
• 58:08
  I present to you the recipient of this year's VFW Americanism Award, missus Scott Lovato. That's it. I'm gonna paint a flag on a rooftop in every state near a military base. As a veteran, we all fought for the flag in World War two. And today, we wanna see it flying.
• 58:31
  They will never as long as I am alive, they will never take the American flag down. You wanna burn one? Then I will find out where you work, and I will find a building across the street and paint a flag 50 by a hundred so you have to see it every fucking day.
• 58:51
  Mel K: A pro Trump sign on the front wall of the Staten Island home was burned to the ground.
• 58:58
  Speaker 3: The hate I get is astronomical. If everybody liked me, I'd be doing something wrong. My mother's advice, whatever you do with your life, as long as you believe it in your heart and always take care of those less fortunate. My father's advice was, son, take This
• 59:15
  Seth Holehouse: is
• 59:15
  Speaker 3: about control. Are terror. We must unite. We must take a stand. Are you ready?
• 59:32
  God didn't give me a gun and a bayonet. He gave me paint and brush, and I will fight to the fucking death for this country.
• 59:47
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