Latest / Magic Divorce Club Podcast / Ep 23: Before You Organise Your Life, Do This (A 3-Minute Calm First Reset)
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- 0:01SPEAKER_00: Welcome to the magic divorce club podcast.
- 0:05This is your space to successfully navigate your divorce with
- 0:10confidence and create
- 0:11SPEAKER_00: a roadmap to the life of your dreams.
- 0:15SPEAKER_00: I'm your host Hannah Harvey.
- 0:16I'm the author of How to Divorce Sober and I have helped
- 0:20thousands of women to
- 0:21SPEAKER_00: process the trauma of divorce and step into an exciting future.
- 0:27Please like and subscribe because this really helps my little
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- 0:45SPEAKER_00: Hello and welcome to the Magic Divorce Club podcast.
- 0:49SPEAKER_00: It's me, Hannah, and this is the new year.
- 0:54SPEAKER_00: This is our first 2026 podcast of the year.
- 0:59SPEAKER_00: How are you doing?
- 1:01SPEAKER_00: That was a lot, wasn't it?
- 1:03SPEAKER_00: That whole Christmas thing is not for the faint of heart.
- 1:08SPEAKER_00: And if this was your first Christmas going through divorce...
- 1:14SPEAKER_00: My heart has been with you.
- 1:16SPEAKER_00: Like, it's a lot, even if you're not going through divorce.
- 1:19SPEAKER_00: So navigating everything that you have,
- 1:22SPEAKER_00: just,
- 1:23SPEAKER_00: I really hope you're giving yourself a massive pat on the back this week.
- 1:27SPEAKER_00: Kids are back to school.
- 1:30SPEAKER_00: Things are starting to settle a little bit.
- 1:32And,
- 1:32you know,
- 1:33this is the time that we can exhale and kind of go,
- 1:37wow,
- 1:38okay,
- 1:39that was a lot.
- 1:40SPEAKER_00: And I really want...
- 1:41really want you and me and all of my friends and my loved ones
- 1:44to acknowledge that
- 1:46um we did some good stuff there and some of it would have been
- 1:50fun and some of it
- 1:51lovely and other times just overwhelming because that's that's
- 1:55the nature of the
- 1:56season and then on top of it we add new year's day where we're
- 2:02meant to suddenly up
- 2:05SPEAKER_00: what's the word like
- 2:09SPEAKER_00: completely change,
- 2:10SPEAKER_00: can't think of the word,
- 2:11SPEAKER_00: but completely change everything that we want to,
- 2:14SPEAKER_00: all in one fell swoop.
- 2:17So,
- 2:17you know,
- 2:18holding that too,
- 2:19I always feel that energy and I actually really like it.
- 2:23SPEAKER_00: Like on the 1st of January, I'm like, ooh, what is it that I want to do?
- 2:28And for those of you that came to the December workshop in the
- 2:31Magic Divorce Club,
- 2:32SPEAKER_00: we were doing some really beautiful stuff there of kind of
- 2:37gently letting go of the things that are no longer serving us
- 2:41from 2025 and what we
- 2:45aim to do is ease into rather than like big goals and um I
- 2:51don't know what are we
- 2:52going to achieve this year the idea was to work out how we want
- 2:57to feel and then to
- 2:59SPEAKER_00: choose a word
- 3:00So it becomes like your anchor and the thing that you can keep
- 3:04coming back to when
- 3:05SPEAKER_00: you feel a bit stressed and just out of sorts,
- 3:10SPEAKER_00: not yourself and lost.
- 3:13SPEAKER_00: Like this is the anchor.
- 3:14SPEAKER_00: So for me, my word for 2026 I've chosen is consistency.
- 3:21SPEAKER_00: And I've chosen this because...
- 3:25weirdly it feels exciting and a bit scary because normally I'm
- 3:30quite all or nothing
- 3:32like if you've read my book you'll know I had issues with
- 3:35addiction I continue to
- 3:37SPEAKER_00: have them um as like a coping mechanism so um
- 3:43consistency is like learning to do the opposite so instead of
- 3:48working working burn
- 3:50myself out or emotional eating um all of those kind of things
- 3:56this idea of a base
- 3:58like a habit so that I don't have to think because it's already
- 4:02ingrained into my
- 4:04SPEAKER_00: existence you know over time little bits and
- 4:08SPEAKER_00: That feels like genuine relief that I can go,
- 4:12SPEAKER_00: oh,
- 4:15I have this thing in place so that I don't need to worry about
- 4:18certain things.
- 4:20SPEAKER_00: So that's where I'm coming from this year.
- 4:23SPEAKER_00: And I guess,
- 4:24SPEAKER_00: you know,
- 4:24SPEAKER_00: for you guys today,
- 4:25what I'd really like to look at is if you're trying to organise
- 4:34everything,
- 4:36Right now,
- 4:37like your whole life,
- 4:39I would love you to do what I'm going to share today first.
- 4:43SPEAKER_00: So, you know, if you have...
- 4:50SPEAKER_00: Got to today, the 8th of January, and gone, oh, it's all lost.
- 4:55I tried to do certain things from the 1st of January,
- 4:59and I've already let it go.
- 5:00Like,
- 5:00if your brain is feeling messy,
- 5:04if you already feel like you've failed,
- 5:08SPEAKER_00: I want you to know that you haven't, for one.
- 5:11This whole year is for us to play with the whole time and we
- 5:15get to choose now what happens.
- 5:18A lot of things that are going on for you will not be at all
- 5:22your choice and it
- 5:23SPEAKER_00: will feel out of control,
- 5:25SPEAKER_00: but you'd get to choose the stuff for you.
- 5:30And the reason things feel messy and overwhelming is because
- 5:34your body doesn't feel safe.
- 5:39SPEAKER_00: So,
- 5:40SPEAKER_00: you know,
- 5:40SPEAKER_00: if you're trying to get organized,
- 5:42SPEAKER_00: but you keep freezing or spiraling or,
- 5:47SPEAKER_00: you know,
- 5:47SPEAKER_00: wanting to get into a fight,
- 5:49SPEAKER_00: all of those fight,
- 5:51SPEAKER_00: flight,
- 5:51SPEAKER_00: freeze,
- 5:52SPEAKER_00: fall responses,
- 5:54SPEAKER_00: this is for you.
- 5:55SPEAKER_00: You know,
- 5:57SPEAKER_00: the people that I'm working with,
- 5:59SPEAKER_00: the clients within the Magic Divorce Club,
- 6:01SPEAKER_00: my one-to-one clients,
- 6:03A huge part of what everyone is struggling with is things like
- 6:09divorce admin.
- 6:11SPEAKER_00: There's just so much of it.
- 6:12SPEAKER_00: You're trying to get your head around all of the little threads.
- 6:16SPEAKER_00: And it's super overwhelming.
- 6:18SPEAKER_00: And it can feel like, for me, I was like, oh, this is so grown up.
- 6:22SPEAKER_00: I don't even know where to start.
- 6:24SPEAKER_00: I'm just a kid.
- 6:25SPEAKER_00: I'm just a kid.
- 6:26SPEAKER_00: Even though I'm like 40.
- 6:30SPEAKER_00: Messages from your ex.
- 6:34Massively triggering at times,
- 6:36calling you out,
- 6:37telling you off,
- 6:38telling you certain things.
- 6:40SPEAKER_00: They can all spiral, you know, really uncomfortable feelings within you.
- 6:47SPEAKER_00: Making money decisions,
- 6:49worrying about your kids and that constant tension of like
- 6:53having to live in limbo.
- 6:55SPEAKER_00: It's not a nice space.
- 6:57And I always say that divorce is like learning how to live in
- 7:02uncertainty because
- 7:04SPEAKER_00: there's just so many unknowns out there.
- 7:07So our job is literally to look after us and to help our bodies
- 7:12feel safe as much as we can.
- 7:17SPEAKER_00: Divorce puts the body into threat mode.
- 7:22SPEAKER_00: Because it's a fight you didn't necessarily want.
- 7:27SPEAKER_00: So you're up against something.
- 7:29SPEAKER_00: And there's all these other factors coming in all of the time.
- 7:33SPEAKER_00: And so your brain often is trying to fix like 50 things at once.
- 7:40SPEAKER_00: And it's just not physically possible.
- 7:44SPEAKER_00: So,
- 7:45SPEAKER_00: you know,
- 7:45that is why organizing can feel so difficult because you're
- 7:49trying to think your
- 7:52SPEAKER_00: way out of the situation you're in,
- 7:56but really you can't because your body is panicking and doesn't
- 8:03feel safe at all.
- 8:04SPEAKER_00: And the body will always take control of the brain.
- 8:10SPEAKER_00: So we have three brains
- 8:12SPEAKER_00: within us that have evolved over time.
- 8:15SPEAKER_00: And the first is like the physical,
- 8:20SPEAKER_00: the reptilian brain.
- 8:21And that brain kind of starts at the back of the head and it
- 8:25goes down into the body.
- 8:27So that one is actually the strongest,
- 8:30and it's the one that's gonna take over everything else.
- 8:33SPEAKER_00: It takes over the emotional brain, which is similar to a mammal's brain.
- 8:37SPEAKER_00: And then on top of that, we have the human conceptual brain.
- 8:42SPEAKER_00: So if the one right at the base is like, ah, ah, shitting myself,
- 8:49SPEAKER_00: Even if you don't even realize that's going on,
- 8:53SPEAKER_00: if you're trying to conceptualize and work everything out,
- 8:57SPEAKER_00: when that bit of your brain and your body is freaking out,
- 9:03SPEAKER_00: it's just not going to work.
- 9:04SPEAKER_00: You're going to keep bumping up against different things.
- 9:10SPEAKER_00: So that's why organizing feels impossible.
- 9:14thinking your way out while your body is panicking the
- 9:17reptilian brain is like no
- 9:19SPEAKER_00: thanks so what
- 9:22everything I've learned over the years is that in order to
- 9:27create next steps we
- 9:29SPEAKER_00: have to start with calming the body down.
- 9:32SPEAKER_00: So I call it calm first.
- 9:35We have to feel safe and then once we feel safe we can get some
- 9:40clarity around what
- 9:41SPEAKER_00: it is we want to do and then we can get our next steps.
- 9:46So we don't need a perfect plan today because I promise you by
- 9:49the end of the week,
- 9:50SPEAKER_00: something new will have come up that you haven't planned for.
- 9:53So we're not going too far off into the distance apart from
- 9:57when we're dreaming
- 9:58SPEAKER_00: about our beautiful lives in a few years time.
- 10:01But this right here is about creating steadiness right now so
- 10:07that you can at least
- 10:08make a little bit of headway because a little bit of headway
- 10:12goes such a long way
- 10:14SPEAKER_00: in terms of building your self-esteem.
- 10:19SPEAKER_00: So I want to point out that right now the moon is in Virgo.
- 10:23SPEAKER_00: This is all new to me.
- 10:24SPEAKER_00: I'm very much agnostic around astrology,
- 10:28but I love the moon and I can't help but believe that it does
- 10:33have an impact on us
- 10:34because we're like made of water and it's the same water
- 10:38consistency salt thing as
- 10:41SPEAKER_00: the sea.
- 10:42SPEAKER_00: And if the moon can like move entire bodies of water
- 10:48like the sea that is the same consistency as us I'm like hmm
- 10:53there's got to be
- 10:54something in this and I have had friends who work in A&E and
- 10:57they're like you don't
- 10:59want to work a full moon because everybody's crazy I'm like
- 11:02okay anyway so the moon
- 11:05is in Virgo and what I love about this when I was reading about
- 11:09it is Virgo is
- 11:10SPEAKER_00: really like an organizing type energy
- 11:14SPEAKER_00: So it's kind of perfect right now to go,
- 11:17SPEAKER_00: ooh,
- 11:18SPEAKER_00: yeah,
- 11:18SPEAKER_00: I'm going to dabble in this,
- 11:21SPEAKER_00: but with such compassion for what I'm going through.
- 11:24SPEAKER_00: And by me, I mean you.
- 11:26SPEAKER_00: So if you want to go into this kind of practice,
- 11:29it's with deep compassion for the fact that you've just
- 11:32survived your first
- 11:33SPEAKER_00: Christmas,
- 11:34SPEAKER_00: your second,
- 11:34SPEAKER_00: your third,
- 11:35SPEAKER_00: mine was my fifth,
- 11:36SPEAKER_00: still surviving,
- 11:37SPEAKER_00: you know,
- 11:39SPEAKER_00: after divorce.
- 11:42SPEAKER_00: And so if...
- 11:43SPEAKER_00: this resonates,
- 11:46SPEAKER_00: it's that a little gentle bit around,
- 11:49SPEAKER_00: okay,
- 11:50we're gonna gently look at how we're gonna organize what we
- 11:52want to do next.
- 11:56SPEAKER_00: And so the calm first,
- 11:58version of this my version is will help your body feel safe
- 12:04first and from there
- 12:06you can start to kind of gently organize little things just one
- 12:11I would say just
- 12:12SPEAKER_00: choose one thing that you're aiming to organize okay
- 12:19So what I would invite you to do is come to a comfortable
- 12:23seated position.
- 12:24SPEAKER_00: If you want to pause this for a second and just go grab a candle,
- 12:29SPEAKER_00: go grab a blanket,
- 12:31like no more than 60 seconds because there's something about
- 12:34when people get ready
- 12:35to meditate that it takes people like 10 minutes to get settled
- 12:39because we're maybe
- 12:40SPEAKER_00: nervous about what's going to come up.
- 12:42SPEAKER_00: But you absolutely don't need to feel that.
- 12:45SPEAKER_00: Get yourself as comfortable as you can.
- 12:51SPEAKER_00: And what you can do is just put a hand on your heart.
- 12:54SPEAKER_00: And if you want to,
- 12:55you could also put a hand on your belly just to let your whole
- 13:00core know that it's
- 13:03SPEAKER_00: safe,
- 13:04SPEAKER_00: that you're here,
- 13:05SPEAKER_00: that you've got it.
- 13:06And I invite you to take a deep breath into your chest,
- 13:13into your heart,
- 13:14expand your ribs.
- 13:18SPEAKER_00: And then as you exhale, let your shoulders drop.
- 13:22SPEAKER_00: Relax down the side of the neck.
- 13:25SPEAKER_00: Relax the jaw.
- 13:32SPEAKER_00: If you feel safe enough to close your eyes, go ahead and do that.
- 13:41Now bring your attention to the feeling of the rise and fall of
- 13:45your chest.
- 13:52So you'll be able to physically feel that with your hand or
- 13:56into your belly.
- 14:05SPEAKER_00: Try and make your inhale longer than your exhale.
- 14:08SPEAKER_00: The other way around, make your inhale shorter.
- 14:11SPEAKER_00: So you could breathe in for four.
- 14:13SPEAKER_00: And then exhale for six.
- 14:43SPEAKER_00: Keep going with that.
- 14:45SPEAKER_00: A longer exhale tells your body that you're safe right now.
- 14:50SPEAKER_00: You could also deepen that feeling by exhaling out through the mouth.
- 15:09SPEAKER_00: Letting all the muscles in your body settle
- 15:16SPEAKER_00: your legs feel heavy,
- 15:18feeling that contact with the ground and then I invite you to
- 15:36ask yourself what are
- 15:40SPEAKER_00: you carrying today that isn't yours to carry
- 15:48SPEAKER_00: And just notice what pops up in your brain.
- 15:57SPEAKER_00: You don't need to fix anything, just notice.
- 16:22SPEAKER_00: Just give yourself permission.
- 16:23SPEAKER_00: You could whisper this to yourself if that feels comfortable.
- 16:30SPEAKER_00: Today I am allowed to do less.
- 16:37SPEAKER_00: And I'm allowed to do it calmly.
- 16:45SPEAKER_00: Just letting that integrate into your body.
- 16:49SPEAKER_00: Letting your shoulders drop.
- 16:52Feeling the muscles in the back of your shoulders,
- 16:55the shoulder blades to soften.
- 17:03SPEAKER_00: Breathing that into the heart.
- 17:09SPEAKER_00: And gently feeling back into your fingers, your toes.
- 17:15SPEAKER_00: Feeling the ground beneath you.
- 17:19SPEAKER_00: Keeping this calm,
- 17:22permission slip with you in your heart as you gently blink open
- 17:27your eyes.
- 17:36SPEAKER_00: Picking in the space that you're in,
- 17:38SPEAKER_00: maybe noticing a few things in front of you and naming them.
- 17:53Now that you feel calmer and steadier,
- 17:57even if it's just 1%,
- 17:59it's making a difference.
- 18:03SPEAKER_00: It's starting to train your body as to what you're trying to get to.
- 18:12From this point,
- 18:13you could choose one thing that you would like to address this
- 18:18week.
- 18:20SPEAKER_00: So not your whole life,
- 18:22SPEAKER_00: not your whole divorce,
- 18:24SPEAKER_00: just one thing,
- 18:25SPEAKER_00: an email,
- 18:27SPEAKER_00: a form,
- 18:29SPEAKER_00: just one question that you could send to me or your solicitor.
- 18:37Set yourself a 15-minute timer and go,
- 18:40I'm going to do this one thing this week.
- 18:45SPEAKER_00: And then when the timer ends, you stop.
- 18:49And you kind of pat yourself on the back and go,
- 18:51that was me doing my calm first organisation.
- 19:02SPEAKER_00: Well done if, you know, you went in with that with an open heart.
- 19:07SPEAKER_00: I would love to hear how you found it and what came up for you.
- 19:11If you were able to kind of pick something just small and
- 19:16tangible that you can do this week.
- 19:19SPEAKER_00: that will help you feel slightly more organized,
- 19:22SPEAKER_00: get you closer to the things that you would like to achieve,
- 19:26SPEAKER_00: even just in January.
- 19:27SPEAKER_00: Now, if, you know, this is the kind of
- 19:35thing that really resonates for you you notice that your body
- 19:39responds to my voice
- 19:42and feeling calmer then you know you're not alone in divorce at
- 19:47all and i would
- 19:48love to invite you to come into the magic divorce club magic
- 19:52circle um this is the
- 19:57SPEAKER_00: basis of what i do it's like the calm first energy um
- 20:03And what I have learned over the years is that the way that we
- 20:09can support
- 20:10ourselves in getting through certain things and starting to
- 20:14really achieve our
- 20:15SPEAKER_00: goals is not through shame.
- 20:18We can't shame ourselves into,
- 20:21I mean,
- 20:21you can,
- 20:22but it doesn't last for very long.
- 20:25SPEAKER_00: We can't shame ourselves into doing the things that we want to do.
- 20:30The stick approach,
- 20:31when your body is already going through what you are,
- 20:34doesn't work.
- 20:38SPEAKER_00: It might work for a while, but my experience is that it will end up in...
- 20:44kind of a breakdown so having learned these things the hard way
- 20:49I share this
- 20:50because when I realized what I needed to do was be so kind to
- 20:54myself in a way that
- 20:56made no sense to me because I'd never really witnessed it or
- 20:59seen it in other
- 21:00people um once I understood this I'm like that is the basis of
- 21:04what I do now my aim
- 21:07SPEAKER_00: is to help you feel safe enough to
- 21:10SPEAKER_00: So that you can get clear,
- 21:13you can set boundaries and you feel comfortable and you even
- 21:19can identify what your
- 21:21SPEAKER_00: next step is.
- 21:22So that's what we do every Monday at the Magic Mondays in the
- 21:26Magic Divorce Club.
- 21:29SPEAKER_00: So love you to come and join us for that.
- 21:32SPEAKER_00: And I'd be honored to hold space again.
- 21:35And once we've finished the main kind of bulk of what we do,
- 21:39it lasts 30 minutes.
- 21:41Then we have like a 15 minute check in every week and people
- 21:45can tell me what
- 21:45they're working on and get a little bit of coaching alongside
- 21:49that kind of thing.
- 21:51SPEAKER_00: So yeah, love you to join.
- 21:54SPEAKER_00: And, you know, remember, you've got this.
- 21:58SPEAKER_00: And I love being here for you guys.
- 22:00SPEAKER_00: I've been there.
- 22:01SPEAKER_00: So this is my calling.
- 22:03SPEAKER_00: So I have got you.
- 22:04SPEAKER_00: If ever you want to get in touch with me, please do.
- 22:07SPEAKER_00: And,
- 22:08SPEAKER_00: you know,
- 22:08I can point you to the right resources or I can welcome you
- 22:12into the stuff that I
- 22:14SPEAKER_00: can provide for you.
- 22:19SPEAKER_00: Thank you so much for listening.
- 22:21SPEAKER_00: And if you could subscribe and leave a review, that would be amazing.
- 22:26SPEAKER_00: For all of your tips and tools,
- 22:29head over to magicdivorceclub.substack.com and you can find
- 22:37everything that you
- 22:38SPEAKER_00: need there.
- 22:39SPEAKER_00: You've got this and I've got you.