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Gen Toop: Green Peace Campaigner on Tama Potaka backing down on Conservation · Early Edition with Ryan Bridge

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  Speaker 1: A back down from tome of pool Taker on his
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  Speaker 1: plan around the potential sale of conservation land, emphasis on potential.
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  Speaker 2: But over recent weeks it's become clear that many New
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  Speaker 2: Zealanders have been left with a different impression. And that's
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  Speaker 2: on me, that's on us, and I will be taking
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  Speaker 2: out the disposal and exchange provisions from that bill.
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  Speaker 1: There go gentoop Is with us Greenpeace campaign and in
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  Speaker 1: good morning, good morning, you've won the battle. Congratulations.
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  Speaker 3: Oh well, let's talk about what actually happened yesterday, Ryan,
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  Speaker 3: So people across the country spoke out in their droves
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  Speaker 3: against this bill because the Coalish and government misunderstood a
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  Speaker 3: fundamental truth, which is that people from all walks of
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  Speaker 3: life love public conservation land in New Zealand, and yesterday
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  Speaker 3: they finally realized that and they are now scrambling around
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  Speaker 3: trying to fix an unfixable bill. So what happened yesterday
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  Speaker 3: is testament to people power. But this bill is unsalvagible.
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  Speaker 1: Do you know, Jen, I'd agree with you. I think
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  Speaker 1: that you'll write most New Zealanders, and more so than
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  Speaker 1: any other country. I think in the Western world we
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  Speaker 1: all have a bit of an environmental bent, don't we.
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  Speaker 1: No matter what side. So, okay, you're right about that,
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  Speaker 1: But you don't seriously still think that anybody, any minister, Puma,
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  Speaker 1: Pultaker or other, would want to sell off prized bits
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  Speaker 1: of New Zealand's conservation estate, do you.
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  Speaker 3: So this bill has been written from start to finish
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  Speaker 3: to allow public conservation land to be opened up to
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  Speaker 3: private commercial exploitation. So even if National manages to convince
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  Speaker 3: its coalition partners and Shane Jones in particular, to pull
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  Speaker 3: this land sales part out of the bill, the bill
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  Speaker 3: still allows for things like open last minds, private resorts, gondolas, monorails,
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  Speaker 3: you name it to be to be on our conservation estate.
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  Speaker 3: And I think New Zealanders have made it clear.
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  Speaker 1: I agree. New Zealander has made it clear that they
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  Speaker 1: don't want because New Zealanders thought that we were going
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  Speaker 1: to sell Mount Cook, which was never going to happen.
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  Speaker 1: There are these primes.
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  Speaker 3: That was never going to happen because that is an
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  Speaker 3: extral park, it's protected.
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  Speaker 1: That's the impression that people, I think have been left with.
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  Speaker 1: But Jen, let's talk about Let's talk about what you
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  Speaker 1: want to talk about, which is those activities. I mean
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  Speaker 1: a bit of jet boating here, a bit of river
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  Speaker 1: rafting there, maybe a bit of mining on the outskirts
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  Speaker 1: of some conservation estate. Is a very different picture to
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  Speaker 1: the one that I think is being painted.
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  Speaker 3: No, So the government has proposed that they will change
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  Speaker 3: the entire purpose of the Conservation Act and the Core
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  Speaker 3: Mandate DOC so that they have to enable commercial exploitation
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  Speaker 3: of conservation land to the greatest extent practicable under the law.
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  Speaker 3: There are three other major problems with this bill and
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  Speaker 3: I'll cover them for you. Number one is that they
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  Speaker 3: overhaul the concessions framework. They even make it so that
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  Speaker 3: the Minister is able to establish any activity as exempt
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  Speaker 3: without needing a concession from DOC for it to happen.
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  Speaker 3: Number two, they are they are.
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  Speaker 1: Moving stoic because the list thing I think, I think
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  Speaker 1: we're getting off topic. But but coming back to this
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  Speaker 1: idea that I mean, already a lot of our conservation
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  Speaker 1: and state is used for private business. We've got cafes there,
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  Speaker 1: you know, We've got we've got private businesses doing lots
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  Speaker 1: of different stuff on a conservation.
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  Speaker 3: Estate exactly, Ryan. So what's wrong to change? Why does
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  Speaker 3: there need to be any change? That's my question?
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  Speaker 1: Well, what's wrong with a bit more of it. No,
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  Speaker 1: so because we still we make money off the estate
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  Speaker 1: down the bill is.
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  Speaker 3: Not about a bit more of it. So the re
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  Speaker 3: bill removes vital checks and balances on the minister's power
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  Speaker 3: over the conservation estate. And I think we've just seen
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  Speaker 3: that one government can't be trusted, hecked as the custodians
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  Speaker 3: of public conservation land, which is what they are supposed
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  Speaker 3: to be.
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  Speaker 1: So Gin we have to leave it there, I'm afraid,
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  Speaker 1: but I'm enjoying talking to you about this and we
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  Speaker 1: will continue to do so, I'm sure because the bill,
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  Speaker 1: as you say, is not going anywhere as yet. There's
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  Speaker 1: a few clauses being ditched. Gen two Greenpeace Campaign For.
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