Latest / Sports Avenue Twisted Podcast / Episode 71 feat. Lindsay Crosby - Spring Training Impressions, Braves Roster Depth, Braves Expecations
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- 0:26welcome to Music another edition of Sports Ave.
- 0:28We have a special, special guest in here today and we've been
- 0:31trying to get this guy for quite some time and a friend of ours
- 0:35from the Tomahawk Talk podcast helped us get him in and we
- 0:38appreciate you joining us and giving us insight about the
- 0:43Atlanta Braves and and he's the founder of Braves today.
- 0:46Lindsay Crosby, welcome. It's an honor for you to have
- 0:50you on. We've been trying to get you on
- 0:51Forever Forever, but we finally have you on and you could also
- 0:54share your credentials of what other work you have done.
- 1:00Oh my gosh, it's I do a lot right.
- 1:03Happy to be here, guys. But yeah, founder of Braves
- 1:06today. We used to partner that with
- 1:08Sports Illustrated. Now it's independent on
- 1:10Substack. It's both a podcast and a
- 1:12newsletter. Both of those are daily.
- 1:14I'm also the host of the Locked on Sports Atlanta postgame show.
- 1:18So after every single one of Braves game, we go live.
- 1:21And then I also do other freelance work for the Locked On
- 1:23Podcast Network covering MLB, covering college baseball, just
- 1:28a ton of stuff. So the best place at Crosby
- 1:31baseball and social media is where I put everything.
- 1:34But happy to be here, happy to talk some Braves and Major
- 1:36League Baseball and Alexandopoulos.
- 1:40Excited to have you a couple years ago a friend of mine
- 1:43mentioned he said that you were one guy to follow on Twitter
- 1:46because your content was good so I followed you ever since then
- 1:51and and you put up great work and I love I love reading your
- 1:54your morning newsletters to to my e-mail so it's it's cool to
- 1:59have you man you know you definitely are plugged in with
- 2:03the Braves and we're ready to get going and ready to get
- 2:06talking all things Lana so let's let's get started and thank you
- 2:11very much for joining us by the way of.
- 2:13Course, of course. Let's let's get this thing
- 2:16started here. So we saw what the Braves have
- 2:19done this offseason. They made moves and we saw the
- 2:24biggest setting was I believe was Robert Suarez, right, and
- 2:27Mike Jastrevsky. Talk about the spring training
- 2:31that's happened so far. What are your first impression
- 2:34impressions about those guys and the other guys and your thoughts
- 2:37about, you know, what has impressed you with the players
- 2:40thus far? I think the two things that I
- 2:44kind of took away from those two guys specifically Robert Suarez
- 2:46and Mike Astremsky is both of them signed with Atlanta knowing
- 2:52that they could have smaller roles than they had last year,
- 2:56right? Suarez led the National League
- 2:57and saves and he said pretty early after he signed like he
- 3:02was going to be the set up man for Rizal Iglesias.
- 3:05So he's take voluntarily taking a step back in deference to the
- 3:08veteran who's been with Atlanta for a few years.
- 3:11And Mike Ostremsky said he had conversations with Alexandopolis
- 3:14about would he play left, would he play right?
- 3:18Would he fill in and center? But knowing when he signed, and
- 3:21it's not true now, but when he signed, they had three everyday
- 3:25outfielders and jerks and pro far Michael Harris and Ronald
- 3:28Cuney junior. And so he signed knowing that
- 3:31like, hey, I'm going to get mixed in somewhere.
- 3:34And both these guys were perfectly OK with that.
- 3:38And a lot of players say that, right?
- 3:39Like they say that they're fine with it, but watching these guys
- 3:42play and watching what they did in spring, they're genuinely OK
- 3:47with that. They're genuinely OK with, hey,
- 3:49we just want to be part of a winning team.
- 3:51We just want to, you know, we, we like the atmosphere.
- 3:55We like the clubhouse. We like the guys we're working
- 3:57with. We like the history of the
- 3:59organization. Mike Ostremsky talked about
- 4:02being a Braves fan as a kid because his his dad or sorry,
- 4:08his grandfather, Karl Yastremsky was close with Bobby Cox.
- 4:12So they've, they've integrated really well in the clubhouse.
- 4:16They're the kind of guys that other players just naturally
- 4:20gravitate to. You know, they're, they're not
- 4:23set out trying to be leaders, but other players just are drawn
- 4:28to them. From a from the perspective of
- 4:31this is a veteran who's been around the league, he's done a
- 4:34lot of stuff and he's here for the right reasons.
- 4:36He wants to win. He's willing to do whatever it
- 4:39takes. We've seen in other teams where
- 4:42you don't have that dynamic. I think about Raffi Devers with
- 4:45the Red Sox last year, right, where he didn't want to move
- 4:48positions or didn't want to change.
- 4:50These guys have come in and said I'll do whatever is needed to do
- 4:53as long as we, you know, have a chance to win.
- 4:55That's what I care about. So that was kind of the big take
- 4:57away from talking to those guys after the signing and then
- 5:01seeing them in spring and seeing what they've done.
- 5:03They've both looked really good in spring.
- 5:05So whereas it's going to have the best velocity of anybody in
- 5:07that bullpen, Ystromski's been a menace out in the box.
- 5:13He's been pretty good defensively in the outfield.
- 5:16So great additions and really the kind of the first offseason
- 5:20in a while that the Braves have been able to bring in guys that
- 5:24they feel like could be impact performers.
- 5:26You have so many locked in starters in this lineup and it's
- 5:29hard to bring in guys and give them a lot of playing time.
- 5:32And this kind of felt like the first year where they could
- 5:34really sell playing time to free agents.
- 5:37And Ystransky is going to be the biggest beneficiary of that.
- 5:42With the season less than two weeks away, it's kind of
- 5:45beginning, much like the season ended for the Braves last year,
- 5:48with a lot of key injuries. Gosh, yeah, it really has.
- 5:52Man, it's tough. Like, like Joey Wentz was just
- 5:57recently, you know, diagnosed, done for the year with the torn
- 5:59ACL. Spencer Swellenbach comes into
- 6:02spring training with elbow inflammation.
- 6:04It was reported long not long after that he had surgery to
- 6:08remove bone spurs. So he he's targeting a summer
- 6:11return 1st. And Waldrip, who was set to have
- 6:14a key spot in the rotation, looked great at the end of last
- 6:17year. You know, I'm a Florida guy, so
- 6:20he's he's kind of my guy there. And he had elbow inflammation.
- 6:26And Joe Jimenez is on a 60 day Illinois recovering from knee
- 6:30surgery. AJ Smith Shaver still recovering
- 6:33from Tommy John early before spring training even started.
- 6:37Hassan Kim had a freak injury with his finger in Korea.
- 6:40And Sean Murphy's also sidelined.
- 6:42And then you had, you know, the unfortunate thing with Profar,
- 6:45which we'll talk about later. But just just talk a bit about
- 6:48what's going on here with the Braves and the injuries and, and
- 6:52how can they kind of gather themselves and recovered heading
- 6:56into the season? Yeah, it's been 2 years now
- 6:59where the Braves have just had absurd amounts of injuries,
- 7:03right? You look at 2024 and they lost a
- 7:06bunch of position players. You know, they had a pitcher to
- 7:09go down. Strider was down for 24, but for
- 7:11the most part the injuries were in the position player group and
- 7:15because the rotation other than Strider was relatively
- 7:19untouched, they were able like they had.
- 7:22I believe they're combined ER Ray rotation and bullpen was the
- 7:28best in baseball. They were like top three in both
- 7:30categories. They squeaked into the post
- 7:32season on the final day. And then last year it was the
- 7:35opposite. They lost all 5 opening day
- 7:39starters on the 60 day IL at the first time.
- 7:43I'm sorry. At the same time, it's the first
- 7:45time that's ever happened in baseball and they just did.
- 7:48They just couldn't recover from it.
- 7:49And then now it's almost kind of a blend, right?
- 7:54You've got, you lost 3 starters this spring.
- 7:58You have two position players on the IL.
- 8:01The one thing I will say about this year is, and Alex
- 8:05Anthropolis specifically, the president of baseball
- 8:07operations, who you guys know well, you know, having covered
- 8:09Blue Jay stuff, is he learns from the mistakes.
- 8:14And I think one of the things he's learned over the last two
- 8:17years is you can never have enough, enough depth.
- 8:22And they came into spring with a lot of rotation options and they
- 8:27made a lot of moves to bulk up the position player side.
- 8:31And a ace told us in the past, I remember asking him about this,
- 8:34probably the 24 trade deadline and he said they've always
- 8:38struggled to build a good bench because the Braves have never
- 8:43really had play time to offer a free agent, right?
- 8:46Like they because they had guys who play almost every game and
- 8:50they had ADA full time DH, they couldn't offer play time while
- 8:54Marcelo Zuna was a free agent. So they trade for Mauricio
- 8:57Dubin, who's literally one 2/3 of every American League Gold
- 9:03Glove for utility players. He's only been three of them.
- 9:05He's won two of them. They signed Mike Ystrimsky.
- 9:08They bring in Jonah Heim at catcher.
- 9:10They brought in higher caliber backups than they've ever had
- 9:15before because they could sell, having play time.
- 9:18They could say, hey, we have at bats available.
- 9:21We don't have a full time DH. We can rotate you through and
- 9:25then when somebody goes down, you'll be a full time starter.
- 9:28And guess what? It's already happened for Duban
- 9:30and Yasrim Ski. They're already full time
- 9:32starters now. But I think that's the
- 9:34difference, right? If this was like part of the
- 9:38issue in 24 was you lost so many position players that at one
- 9:43point in time that year the Braves were starting like 3
- 9:48different position players who had been DFA D earlier in the
- 9:52season. Outfielder Ramon Lauriano, third
- 9:55baseman Gio Urschella, second baseman Whitmer Field.
- 9:58And then they traded for Jorge Solaire, who was playing right
- 10:03field in place of Ronald Lacuna Junior like they had, they had
- 10:06acquired 4, like 4 ninths of their starting lineup mid season
- 10:11after injuries. Right now, you're in a position
- 10:14where you have a backup, a quality backup who's in the
- 10:19lineup. And at least on the position
- 10:21player side, they're hoping to get Sean Murphy and Hassan Kim
- 10:25back sometime in May. They hope it'll be earlier, but
- 10:29it could be, you know, they're not sure exactly when in May.
- 10:32But when they do that, assuming there's no other significant
- 10:35position player injuries, this should be the deepest bench
- 10:38Atlanta's had in the last decade or so.
- 10:42The questions going to be pitching wise, do you get
- 10:45Spencer Schoenbach back mid season?
- 10:47Do you get Hersen Walter Beck mid season?
- 10:50When you do finally get AJ Smith Schauver back, he had Tommy John
- 10:54surgery. It's probably late in the year.
- 10:56What do those pitchers look like?
- 10:59And does the depth you still have plus the prospects that
- 11:03you're looking at in AAA, is that enough to keep you in
- 11:08contention until you can add a swelling blocker, add a wall
- 11:11drip or whatever? So that's kind of that's kind of
- 11:13where you are right now for the Braves is the injuries are
- 11:17hitting for 1/3 consecutive year, but they have more depth
- 11:21now than they did the first two times it happened.
- 11:27I briefly mentioned at the end of the last question about
- 11:30Profar, he gets that unfortunate, you know,
- 11:33suspension for 180 or 162 games this this time around and full
- 11:40season. How much like how much of A blow
- 11:44is that to the Braves? And you know how like like what
- 11:48where do they go from here with profile?
- 11:50Because I believe he still has one year left on his deal right
- 11:53after this year like. He does have the the 27 season
- 11:57left on his deal. And honestly, I wouldn't be
- 12:00shocked if there was a push in this winter's new CBA
- 12:04negotiation to find some sort of way of like, hey, if a guy has
- 12:09failed multiple drug tests, do we have a way to like, void the
- 12:13guarantee and get out of the deal?
- 12:17As far as like the actual replacing the player, the timing
- 12:21of when it happened, there's nothing you can do.
- 12:23It was early March. All of the rotational
- 12:27outfielders who would have paired up with Mike Ashrimsky
- 12:30had literally all signed within the previous three or four days.
- 12:33Michael Conforto minor league deal with the with the Cubs.
- 12:36Randall Grichuk minor league deal with the Yankees and the
- 12:40Braves are going to be watching. Friday and Saturday are kind of
- 12:43a lot of the big days for veterans on minor league deals
- 12:47to opt out and become free agents, but replacing the player
- 12:53of Profar isn't incredibly easy and they're going to kind of
- 12:57have to absorb it internally. There's just not a lot of
- 12:59quality options you can find at this point.
- 13:02But the they said all of the right things.
- 13:06When they finally got in front of the media, Profar was popped
- 13:10and it was announced on an off day, so no media was there.
- 13:14The next day when everybody was in the clubhouse and the media
- 13:17kind of talked to these guys about it, they all said the
- 13:20right things that, you know, it's unfortunate they can't
- 13:24dwell on it. Bad things will happen in the
- 13:26course of a season. You just have to go out there
- 13:29and do your job. I do think that some of the
- 13:32comments were maybe a little more guarded than fans wanted
- 13:36because to your point, Rob, there is that specter of they
- 13:40could like he could be back on the roster next year.
- 13:43I personally don't think he plays another, he gets another
- 13:46ending in Atlanta. I think that they would rather
- 13:48cut him and you know, when he's eligible to be released and save
- 13:5315, you know, just pay the 15,000,000 bucks for him to go
- 13:55away versus actually letting him come back into that clubhouse
- 14:01simply because everybody welcomed him back after he made
- 14:06a mistake. And they kind of, you know,
- 14:09they, they worked to forgive him and rebuild the relationship and
- 14:14then he did it again. And that's one of those things
- 14:17it's, it's really hard to give a guy a third chance when he threw
- 14:22away the second chance you had given him.
- 14:25And so he does technically have another year under team control.
- 14:28I honestly don't expect him to play in Atlanta.
- 14:31And at this point, I don't know how many teams would be willing
- 14:35to bring in Jerks and Profar simply because, you know he's
- 14:40one. He's one PED suspension away
- 14:43from being banned for life and it's incredibly suspect as to
- 14:47now what he would produce. Not only because one, all his
- 14:52best stats are when he was on PEDs, but two, he'll be a full
- 14:56calendar year plus away from games he wouldn't have played in
- 15:00the game since September of 2025.
- 15:04So when he signs the start of 27 season, he'll be 18 months away
- 15:08from his last game. I just don't know how many teams
- 15:11are going to want a 34 year old who hasn't played baseball in a
- 15:14year and a half. So, so, so you would say that
- 15:19with pro far because he still signed for another year, right?
- 15:22And, and the thing about him is now, so Alex is pretty much
- 15:25stuck with them. But if they have to open up a
- 15:29roster spot just to say, for instance, they call up somebody
- 15:31for the minors or it's through a trade, do you think Alex would
- 15:34have the tendency to still cut him loose or do you think
- 15:38they're going to let him ride? Throughout the way so so you
- 15:40can't actually make you can't cut him until he's reinstated.
- 15:45So they have to carry him all the way through the suspension.
- 15:49Now I don't know the rules as far as if he officially takes a
- 15:52roster spot. They've been really specific
- 15:55with their wording as they've been cutting down cutting down
- 15:58the roster in camp. This is how many active players
- 16:02are in camp. I don't believe he takes a 40
- 16:05man spot while he's suspended, but they can't cut him until the
- 16:08suspension is over. We saw this with Trevor Bauer of
- 16:12the Dodgers. He was on the Dodgers roster all
- 16:16the way until he was reinstated and as soon as he was reinstated
- 16:19they released him. It's kind of what I expect is
- 16:21going to happen here is as soon as he's eligible to be
- 16:24reinstated, they're going to release him.
- 16:26But the Braves can make plenty of roster spots right now.
- 16:30Joey Wince is not yet on the 60 day IL, so that's 140 man spot.
- 16:34AJ Smith Shover is another guy they can put on the 60 day.
- 16:38That's a second Danny Young. They signed him.
- 16:42He's coming out of Tommy John for in May of last year from the
- 16:45Mets. He's probably not going to be
- 16:47back until after mid season. They can easily make at least
- 16:51three 640 man spots if they need to just by putting those players
- 16:57on the 60 day IL. They also haven't done it for
- 16:59Hirsch and Waldrop yet so they can make 3 or 4 roster spots.
- 17:02They don't need the jerks and pro far spot, but they also
- 17:05can't do anything with him until he's reinstated.
- 17:10The opening day rotation now we talked a little bit about it
- 17:14briefly there when with the injury debacle that's going on
- 17:19right now, it stands to be sales Strider, Elder Holmes Lopez and
- 17:25it doesn't on paper doesn't look that bad because you mentioned
- 17:29all the depth that you guys have acquired, you know, and building
- 17:33up a lot of that depth. So just how do you see things
- 17:39going for the guys that are there now?
- 17:41How have they performed in spring?
- 17:43How do they look? How does Chris Sale look?
- 17:46You know, talk a bit about some of them guys and how important
- 17:49those guys are now, especially with all the injuries and if you
- 17:53were to get Schwellen back and and Schaver back, I mean, you
- 17:56guys are looking really, really strong.
- 17:58But in the meantime, just, yeah, just talk about the rotation as
- 18:03it stands right now. Yeah, something that I've
- 18:06noticed recently is all of these guys, their velocity is kind of
- 18:10down in spring, and I think at this point it's intentional.
- 18:16It really feels like when you watch Spencer Strider, when you
- 18:19watch Ronaldo Lopez, even when you watch Chris Sale, it feels
- 18:23like they're deliberately not going Max effort in spring
- 18:26training. And you have to think that's,
- 18:28oh, I have to be available this season because we're not going
- 18:33to get wins back all year. We're we've already, you know,
- 18:37we're not going to have swollen Bach for at least half the year.
- 18:39We're not going to have Waldrop back for at least half the year.
- 18:42But the actual stuff, a lot of the results for a lot of these
- 18:46guys has been really good. And the thing that I've noticed
- 18:50under the new pitching coaches, right, they brought in Jeremy
- 18:54Hefner from the Mets. A lot of these guys outside of
- 18:57Chris Sale, because he's just who he is.
- 19:00He's a Cy Young winner. You don't mess with him.
- 19:01But a lot of the other guys have added new pitches.
- 19:04They've tweaked what they've done and a lot of what they've
- 19:08been doing this spring is just trying to get more comfortable
- 19:12with the new pitches and the new adjustments.
- 19:15Great Holmes fastball from a rate basis was one of the worst
- 19:18in baseball last year. He's made some adjustments to it
- 19:21to try to make it more effective.
- 19:23Ronaldo Lopez is trying to fix his change up.
- 19:26Bryce Elder has added a cutter. Spencer Strider's trying to get
- 19:30more comfortable mixing in the curveball and the change up.
- 19:34So like yes, the some of these guys have either been injured or
- 19:39have struggled. Bryce Alder was not good last
- 19:41year. He did still have a 50% quality
- 19:44start. Like half of his outings were
- 19:46quality starts. And he's, you can see this
- 19:50spring, his velocity is a little bit better and he's trying like
- 19:53he's added the cutter and some other things to try and try to
- 19:58mitigate the bad outings to be more reliable from a start to
- 20:02start basis. So I'm I'm the person who's
- 20:05strangely high on this rotation simply because seeing a lot of
- 20:11the work they've done in the background, right?
- 20:13Seeing a lot of the the improvement in the quality of
- 20:17the stuff or the number of pitches they have, knowing that
- 20:21the new coaches are working with them and have been working with
- 20:23them. I'm probably the high man on
- 20:25this rotation. I think provided they don't have
- 20:28any other injuries. I think you got these five guys.
- 20:32You have maybe a Schwellenbach coming back mid season or a wall
- 20:35Drip coming back. I don't want to count on both of
- 20:37them, but assuming you get one of them back, I think this could
- 20:40be easily be a top 10 rotation in baseball this year.
- 20:43The only question I would have is what are the workloads for
- 20:47these guys? Simply because all of them minus
- 20:51Elder missed time last year. Can they?
- 20:54Can you get 30 starts out of anybody in this rotation?
- 20:58I don't know if you can, but I think when they're on the field
- 21:01this could be a top 10 rotation in baseball, provided you don't
- 21:04lose anybody else. Well, let's talk about the guys
- 21:09in line in the rotation. And I think the pitching depth
- 21:13to the Braves are is pretty deep.
- 21:14And I like to mention about the Jr.
- 21:16Richie DDA foot Fuentes. I actually want to talk deeply
- 21:20about it and and and Owen Murphy, if you look at Richie
- 21:25and DDA fluentes, they've been they've been catching well, like
- 21:29he they are been insanity to say the least, right, because
- 21:33especially Fuentes, he's been virtually unhittable.
- 21:35If you look at his that he. Has unhittable.
- 21:37He's not giving up a hit in the spring in like 3 outings right?
- 21:40Yeah, right. And, and where do those guys fit
- 21:44in the rotation? Like they say, there's a
- 21:46possibility they could start in AAA, there's a chance that they
- 21:49could crack the rotation. Like where do those guys fit in
- 21:51the in the rotation pole? Yeah, so.
- 21:53So heading into spring training, Fuentes was a bit of an unknown
- 21:57because he ended last season on the minor league injured list
- 21:59with a shoulder issue and he was a little bit late to debut in
- 22:05Grapefruit League play because of just being late to get
- 22:09started in spring and everything.
- 22:10But I think both those guys are going to get starts this year.
- 22:15And I, I feel confident in saying that one of them is
- 22:20probably going to make like 10 starts at the Major League
- 22:22level. Like I think you're at that
- 22:23point and the the issue here is 1 what order do you do them in?
- 22:30Right? Fuentes is on the 40 man roster.
- 22:33Richie is not. So Fuentes is probably the first
- 22:36guy up. But they're also completely
- 22:39different players, right? Fuentes is all ceiling.
- 22:44His his forcing fastball is one of the best in the organization,
- 22:50if not the best now that Spencer Schrider still working to come
- 22:52back from his elbow surgery. He has a a really good gyro
- 22:56slider that he's added this year that he does along with it.
- 22:59He has a splitter that he kind of really can't control.
- 23:03Nobody can control a splitter that well, but even he struggles
- 23:06with it a little bit. But like if he can put
- 23:08everything together, Deidier Fuentes could be an ace.
- 23:13Like his stuff is that good. But the floor is what you saw
- 23:17last year where his ERA was over 10 because he just didn't have a
- 23:22reliable third pitch. And if one of the 1st 2 wasn't
- 23:25there, he just got blasted around the yard, right.
- 23:29And so like, I'm, I'm really high on Digger Fuentes.
- 23:32A lot of the conversation recently, especially after the
- 23:35the Wednesday start or the Wednesday outing for him where
- 23:38he continued to just mow guys down for four innings, is do you
- 23:43find a way to give him a role on opening day?
- 23:46Do you find a way to put him in the bullpen or have him at the
- 23:49Major League level somehow? The flip side of this for Jr.
- 23:53Richie is he is all floor. He throws all three fastballs.
- 23:58He has like 6 pitches. He mixes them up well.
- 24:01He locates really well. And like, theoretically, the,
- 24:05the, the, the value proposition for Jr.
- 24:08Richie is he should be able to, even if he's not getting a ton
- 24:12of strikeouts and not get a ton of whiffs, he should be able to
- 24:16come to the Major League level and, and, and hold his own right
- 24:20away. It's going to be a lot of like,
- 24:22you got to have a good defense behind him.
- 24:23He's going to get ground balls, you know, and that kind of
- 24:26stuff. You're going to need some double
- 24:27plays to erase, you know, a single here and there and all of
- 24:30that. But he can, he should be able to
- 24:33survive right away because he has so many options.
- 24:37He can command them so well, but none of them are on their own
- 24:42awesome pitches, right? Like none of them are are plus
- 24:45pitches or elite pitches. He just has a lot of options and
- 24:49mixes them up. Fuentes doesn't have very many
- 24:51things he can do, but the things he can do, he can do them
- 24:54really, really well. So Atlanta needs to figure out.
- 24:58And by Atlanta, I mean Alex Anthopolis needs to figure out
- 25:03do when you need a starter for the first time, do you go with
- 25:06the ceiling of Fuentes? Do you go with the floor of
- 25:10Richie? Or do you just default to, hey,
- 25:13Fuentes is already on the 40 man roster and Richie is not, so
- 25:16we're going to go with him. But either way, both these guys
- 25:20look like as soon as next season, they can be in the
- 25:23everyday like they could be in the rotation and they can take
- 25:27starts for you every fifth day because they're both incredibly
- 25:32promising players. They just get there different
- 25:34ways. Drake Baldwin, you know, he won
- 25:40Rookie of the Year last year really high on him.
- 25:43He looks fantastic, especially with the bat and being the
- 25:49everyday catcher this season. You guys go and sign Jonah Heim,
- 25:55former All Star, former World Series champion 2023 as his
- 26:01backup, and Sean Murphy, well, he's hurt.
- 26:04How did they split up the the the playing time between those
- 26:08two this year? What do you think about the
- 26:10Jonah Heim signing and, and just this catching rotation,
- 26:16especially when Murphy comes back?
- 26:17How do they divvy up this all up?
- 26:20I think signing Jonah Heim made a lot of sense from the
- 26:24perspective of he's been really good in the past, right?
- 26:29Like he was a gold. It was a gold lover and an All
- 26:31Star in 2023 where he hit like 260 with a OPS in the mid
- 26:37sevens, right? You know, almost a 20 Homer bat.
- 26:41I think signing Jonah Heim switch hitter veteran has been
- 26:45good defensively, has been good offensively, was the highest
- 26:48floor you could get behind Drake Baldwin, who is still a young
- 26:52catcher and is still better offensively than he is
- 26:55defensively. He's not bad defensively.
- 26:57He'd be had a lot better throughout the course of the
- 26:58year. But signing Jonah Heim, bringing
- 27:02him in is something where at worst he's going to give you the
- 27:07exact same thing as all of the backup AAA catchers you had
- 27:11where he can catch once a week. You know, while you give Drake
- 27:14Baldwin a day off and he can hold his own back there.
- 27:17But at best, if you can get him back into something closer to
- 27:22that 2023 form, I mean, he was a three WAR player in 2023.
- 27:27I had almost twenty home runs, had almost 100 RBI.
- 27:30He gives you the ability, if Jonah Heim can can hit before
- 27:34Sean Murphy comes back, you can use Drake Baldwin more at
- 27:38designated hitter. Because the real question is
- 27:41going to be how many times can you stick Drake Baldwin behind
- 27:46the plate in one season? Right?
- 27:48When Sean Murphy comes back, we're assuming he's going to be
- 27:51able to hit now that the hip is finally repaired and that you
- 27:55can, you know, because you have him back, you can use Baldwin a
- 28:00lot of DH. But if Heim can hit, there's no
- 28:03reason that you can't get 500 played appearances out of Drake
- 28:06Baldwin now 200 of them. Maybe as the DH, but he showed
- 28:13last year that he's one of the better hitters on this team.
- 28:16He is fantastic as far as a contact bat.
- 28:20He hit 274 with an OPS over 800 last year as a rookie in Major
- 28:26League Baseball while also playing catcher, the hardest
- 28:29position to adjust to the majors at.
- 28:32So the Heim signing was big if they can figure out what's gone
- 28:37wrong and get him right. And I honestly think that if
- 28:41Heim is hitting, you could either trade him when Sean
- 28:44Murphy comes back or you could keep him on the roster and have
- 28:473 catchers and that would let you play Drake Baldwin at DH 3-4
- 28:51days a week. The job that jerks and Pro far
- 28:53was going to hold until he decided to be a dummy and use
- 28:57PEDs again. Ohh man.
- 29:00I mean. He got spitted once and then he
- 29:02did it again. Like it's just.
- 29:03Yeah, yeah. It's pretty, it's pretty dumb.
- 29:06It's pretty dumb of him. Dumb.
- 29:08Yeah. It's not a, it's not a good,
- 29:10it's not a good look on him especially.
- 29:12It's really, yeah. So let's let's let's get into
- 29:16the whole bullpen aspect. And that was something that
- 29:19Braves had a bit of an issue last year, but it seems like
- 29:22they worked on it this offseason and there's some guys that I'm
- 29:24really intrigued about. So obviously they brought back
- 29:28Iglesias. They said that he's going to be
- 29:29the closer of this team. And they brought Robert Suarez.
- 29:32So he would be the high leverage guy or the 8th inning guy and
- 29:34probably occasionally close as well.
- 29:36And I'm curious to see how you look at everything else that's
- 29:39going back, right. They brought back Jose Suarez
- 29:42for I don't even know how many times.
- 29:44It seems like it's like a Groundhog Day scenario how they
- 29:48have to pick them up through a waiver claim.
- 29:50It brought back Tyler Clinton Joel Pyons.
- 29:53The name that intrigues me a lot is James Karenchick and he's
- 29:58been very impressive and he was with the Cleveland Guardians
- 30:00organization in the past. I don't know what happened.
- 30:03I think it was the injuries that that derailed him and he got
- 30:05caught and then the Braves have picked him up and then you got
- 30:08to Dylan Lee's and and the days ball Hernandez.
- 30:11Talk about the bull bullpen depth.
- 30:13That and talk about how there has been improvement and what
- 30:17has impressed you so far in spring training with the
- 30:19bullpen. Yeah.
- 30:21What are the the issues with last season's bullpen that, you
- 30:24know, you kind of touched on them, they started a little bit
- 30:26last year was they didn't really have another option at closer.
- 30:29One of the things that I like about the way Alex Anthopoulos
- 30:33has built the bullpen and previous seasons before last
- 30:36year was you always had some sort of like veteran former
- 30:40closer or guy with closer like stuff if you needed a backup.
- 30:45Like they had Kirby Yates for a little while back there, right?
- 30:48Former closer ended up siding with LA, but you had somebody to
- 30:53go to if your closer was unavailable or was struggling.
- 30:58We saw Rise of Iglesias struggle last year.
- 31:01A lot of that issue was his slider.
- 31:04He gave up more home runs on his slider in the first half of last
- 31:08season than he had given up in his entire Braves tenure up to
- 31:13last year. Some of it was just kind of
- 31:15fluky, but the issue was you didn't have anybody else you
- 31:19could go to. You didn't have a former closer.
- 31:21You didn't have closer like stuff.
- 31:23They tried Pierce Johnson on a road trip in San Francisco and
- 31:27he gave up two walk off wins to the Giants and two consecutive
- 31:33games over the weekend. They just didn't have a backup
- 31:36closer. You now have Robert Suarez.
- 31:38I mentioned him earlier as far as like leading the National
- 31:41League in saves last year as your setup man.
- 31:44But Dylan Lee is the lefty setup man to go with Suarez.
- 31:50Tyler Kinley, they got him. He's the second guy they've
- 31:53gotten from Colorado that was really good because they tweaked
- 31:56what he did. They just had him start throwing
- 31:58his slider a lot more. They're bringing back Aaron.
- 32:02Bummer. I'm a little bit I've always
- 32:05liked Aaron. Bummer.
- 32:06I'm a little bit skeptical because I need to see his his
- 32:09health. His fastball velocity was pretty
- 32:11low last year, but when he's on and when he's healthy, he's
- 32:16fantastic at getting great. He's one of the best in baseball
- 32:19at getting ground balls and not giving up barrels.
- 32:23He's the second lefty in the pin.
- 32:26Joel Piomps was a was a reclamation project from the
- 32:30Brewers. He had been very, very good for
- 32:33them up until he got, you know, he got injured, had some bad
- 32:36luck. They brought him back.
- 32:38To your note of Jose Suarez, I really don't think Jose Suarez
- 32:42would have made the pin if not for the Joey Wince injury.
- 32:47And I do think that also kind of impacted the James Cairnchak
- 32:50chances here because Karen, check reclamation project.
- 32:54I talked to the pitching lab that he went to over the winter.
- 32:58They fixed a lot of his issues. He had injury issues.
- 33:01He had mechanical issues. He has looked awesome this
- 33:05spring, but he has minor league options.
- 33:08And when they lost Joey Wince. The Braves have 13 consecutive
- 33:13games to open the season, 13 games in 13 days.
- 33:16And they've indicated because starters typically aren't fully
- 33:20stretched out to open the year, they're going to look at using
- 33:25A6 starter. Joey Wince was going to be that
- 33:286 starter. He added the two seam fastball.
- 33:30He prepared all winter to be a starter and then he tore his ACL
- 33:36so Karen Check was sent to minor league camp because he has
- 33:40options and Jose Suarez probably makes the roster as the long man
- 33:46slash sit starter for that opening stretch.
- 33:51Again, 13 games in 13 days. I don't know if he'll be on the
- 33:54roster by the midpoint of April. I mean, it really feels like
- 33:59because they like Fuentes, they have other options to be a long
- 34:04man. They have other options, guys
- 34:06they want to bring up like Karen Jack.
- 34:09If there's no injury after that 13 games in 13 days, Suarez may
- 34:14start once or twice and then they may DFA him again.
- 34:18They've DFA D him before. They've waved him before, they
- 34:20may DFA him to go ahead and add a Karen check or one of the OR
- 34:26Fuentes or somebody else who has better stuff.
- 34:30And I don't think they care that Suarez is a lefty because they
- 34:35already have 3 lefties in the pen.
- 34:37They have Dylan Lee, they have Aaron Bummer, they probably have
- 34:39Dylan Dodd. Like they've got 3 lefties
- 34:41already. You don't need to prioritize a
- 34:43lefty if he's your 4th lefty. Some teams don't have two, so
- 34:48Suarez probably makes the opening day roster.
- 34:50I don't think he's still on this roster by the end of April.
- 34:55The Oakfield situation is, is quite interesting for you guys.
- 35:00You know, you got Ronald Acuna, of course.
- 35:03I mean having him back in healthy is massive for this
- 35:06team. Michael Harris, you know, he's,
- 35:12he got Eli White and Mike Kastremsky.
- 35:14And I get it, spring training in small sample sizes, but they're
- 35:18both in the thousand OPS category.
- 35:20Like they're killing it in the spring.
- 35:21So I think Kastremsky has like 4 homers.
- 35:24I think it's like in like 28 at bat.
- 35:26So it's it's like, it's just like, how do you see this, this
- 35:31all playing out for the outfield?
- 35:32And do you feel like Michael Harris can get back to being
- 35:36that that guy he was in his first couple years in Atlanta?
- 35:41The big issue we've seen with Michael Harris, and it got worse
- 35:45last year was his chase rate. Like he just was one of the
- 35:48worst and he was like Javi Baez levels are just chasing crap out
- 35:52of the zone and striking out on a pitch that was in the dirt
- 35:55down and away. He's walked so much in spring
- 36:01and just looks to be a different hitter at the plate.
- 36:04And we, you know, we kind of thought we talked to him a
- 36:05little bit and, you know, made availabilities in the clubhouse
- 36:08and all that. And he said that he's really
- 36:12been working on his approach, especially early and at bats, so
- 36:18that he doesn't get into a position where you know, you
- 36:22have two strikes and like, you know, it's, it's like a, it's
- 36:25like a 12 count or an O2 count. And you know, they're going to
- 36:30throw you or they, they can always throw you a chase pitch,
- 36:33but you have to expand the zone to protect, right?
- 36:36I'm high on Michael Harris. I honestly think based on what
- 36:39I've seen in spring, this may get the year or this may be the
- 36:43year where he gets back to that guy.
- 36:45You mentioned the the rookie of the year, you know, the 2020
- 36:49guy. I think his ceiling is like
- 36:5230-30 with Gold Glove caliber defense.
- 36:55Like he could be a star in Major League Baseball.
- 36:59The Chase rate's just been awful.
- 37:01I think this might be the year. And Eli White's the primary
- 37:05beneficiary of the juris and pro far suspension.
- 37:07He's one of the fastest players in baseball, 99th percentile
- 37:10Sprint speed last year. Alex Anthopolis told me when I
- 37:14asked about it that they consider Eli White to have Gold
- 37:18Glove caliber defense at all three defensive positions.
- 37:22He has a strong arm, He's incredibly fast.
- 37:24He's got great reactions. And kind of quietly his batted
- 37:29ball data, like the, the actual, you know, the, the, the hard hit
- 37:34rates, the launch angles, all that stuff are actually really,
- 37:38really good. He his issue is he just hasn't
- 37:42gotten consistent playing time. He also had a couple issues.
- 37:46I had a really egregious base running error last year.
- 37:49They kind of killed his confidence and he slumped after
- 37:51that. But I, I'm on the train of Eli
- 37:56White could absolutely have a breakout kind of year where him
- 38:03and and Mike Astremsky combined to cover left field.
- 38:08I do think there's going to be games where Eli White is in
- 38:11right and Ronald Lacuna junior DHS to kind of, you know, have
- 38:141/2 day right not overload his, his, his, his surgically
- 38:19repaired knees and everything. And I'm high on Eli White.
- 38:22I I I everything I've seen this spring, he's seen the ball well,
- 38:26he's drawing his walks, he's hitting for power.
- 38:29The the exit below's are up. I feel I feel surprisingly good
- 38:34about this outfield. I'm probably the high man on
- 38:36everything, but I'm I'm here. I'm here for it.
- 38:40This is the Eli White and Michael Harris breakout year for
- 38:43both of these guys. I.
- 38:45Love it. Me too.
- 38:48It's great. Roster cuts are hot.
- 38:52Roster cuts are happening right now in spring training for
- 38:56pretty much every team at the moment.
- 38:57But right now, if you look at the Braves right now, they're
- 39:00already doing that right now. And we thought that John Gill's
- 39:03been pretty impressive, but he's still 19 years old, but we'll
- 39:06get to him a little bit later. But the names that that I see
- 39:10out there that's actually been opening eyes for the Braves is
- 39:13Dom Smith and Martin Perez. Could you see those guys make it
- 39:18to the main roster? Or if there's anyone else that's
- 39:20not on the team right now, you could talk about those guys as
- 39:23well. I think Dom Smith has a better
- 39:26chance than Perez simply because you can see a very clear and
- 39:31obvious role right like Dom Smith as a designated hitter
- 39:35against right-handed pitching. He's not been bad in his career
- 39:39the last couple seasons against righties and the pro far
- 39:42situation means that you have the playing time at DH to give
- 39:48him. Pro fart was going to be the DH
- 39:49against righties and he was going to play the field against
- 39:52lefties when when Mike Ostremsky took the bench.
- 39:57I think Dom Smith probably gets that.
- 40:01I don't put a ton of stock into spring training results, but
- 40:05it's kind of like the process, right?
- 40:07Like he's he's had good at bats. He's hitting the ball well.
- 40:11He does bring you some veteran stuff.
- 40:14Against right, he's the last three seasons he's hit.
- 40:17I believe it's he has a 104 WRC plus against right, he's been
- 40:22he's been above average against right, he's I think he makes the
- 40:25roster. He does have a little bit of
- 40:27outfield usefulness, but you have enough Outfitters.
- 40:30You don't need him to do that. If something were to happen, God
- 40:33forbid, to Matt Olson, who's not Mystic Games as he's been in
- 40:36Atlanta, Dom Smith would make a ton of sense to take over first
- 40:40base for you. But I, I do think at least early
- 40:43he makes the roster as your DH against right.
- 40:46He's the question for me would be when you get a Sean Murphy
- 40:51back, a Hassan Kim back. If Jonah Heim is hitting, do you
- 40:56keep Dom Smith or do you go to somebody else who can give you
- 41:00more off the bench than a defensively limited Dom Smith?
- 41:05Martine Perez really kind of feels like he's just going to
- 41:09end up being emergency starting depth.
- 41:14The actual stuff in spring training.
- 41:16He like today he gave up six hits to a Phillies lineup that
- 41:21was mostly backups. They had to pull him in the
- 41:24first inning he because he couldn't get the third out and
- 41:27then they brought him back later.
- 41:29He really feels like he's on a minor league deal.
- 41:31He does have an opt out. He can opt out on Saturday if
- 41:35they don't add him to the roster.
- 41:37I don't know if he will, but it really feels like because they
- 41:41have options like Jose Suarez that's been on the roster, the
- 41:45stuff is better, like his velocities, his movements and
- 41:48everything that Perez is probably on the outside looking
- 41:52in. And if, if Jose Suarez had
- 41:56options, if they could send Jose Suarez down and keep Martine
- 42:00Perez, maybe they'd keep him for those first two starts of the
- 42:03year. But because they would lose,
- 42:04they have to lose somebody they probably choose.
- 42:08We'll keep Suarez and we'll lose Perez simply because Suarez's
- 42:13stuff is better and they've seen him do it for the Braves at the
- 42:19Major League level. He had a 7 inning start against
- 42:22the Nationals in September of last year.
- 42:25He allowed two runs struck out. I think he struck out seven or
- 42:27eight in seven innings. I think they keep Suarez over
- 42:31Perez, but I could one more injury and Perez is making the
- 42:35team and that's just scary for a couple Braves fans.
- 42:40Oh man. Article yesterday.
- 42:45Well, it came to my e-mail yesterday morning.
- 42:47It was headlined as Jorge Mateo's roster spot still safe
- 42:51and they signed, you know, we signed up.
- 42:53They signed up for a speed in his defense, but there are some
- 42:56internal options that could give him a push on this roster.
- 43:00Guys like Brett Wisely, Cal Farmer, Eli White pushing for
- 43:03everyday playing time early on. So project the roster a little
- 43:07bit and tell us what we might be looking at come opening day.
- 43:11Yeah, I think you, when you look at guys who were kind of like
- 43:14locked into starting spots, right?
- 43:16You have all of the usual starters, right?
- 43:19You have a Cunha and Olson and Riley and all those guys.
- 43:22Your two catchers are Baldwin and Jonah Heim.
- 43:24I think Jonah Himes, he's not been great in spring, but I
- 43:27think they they're going to go with him versus somebody like a
- 43:30Chadwick Trump. Eli White is a raw is a lock for
- 43:34the roster, right. And so you only have three bench
- 43:37spots to go with. And I think the premise of that
- 43:39article that I was writing was like, Jorge Mateo is here for
- 43:44speed and defense, but defensively, he's not actually
- 43:48been that good other than one season.
- 43:52And so everything else that he gives you, somebody else on the
- 43:58roster is also doing this, right?
- 44:00Like he Jorge Mateo, one of the fastest players in baseball, so
- 44:04is Eli White. You look at the defense.
- 44:07Like Jorge Matteo can play shortstop, so can Brett Wisely.
- 44:12Brett Wisely has also played, you know, the outfield as well,
- 44:16just as many games as Jorge Matteo has.
- 44:19Kyle Farmer is a guy that is not like Jorge Matteo is a liability
- 44:24at the plate. Kyle Farmer has a three-year WRC
- 44:28plus against lefties of like 109.
- 44:31Like he's legitimately, he could be the other half of your DH
- 44:34platoon with Dominic Smith. And Kyle Farmer's been a catcher
- 44:39in his career and so he could also be your emergency catcher
- 44:44because people don't realize this.
- 44:46If you have like, say, Drake Baldwin at DH and you have Jonah
- 44:49Hyman catcher, if Heim gets injured and you move your DH to
- 44:54catcher, you don't have ADH for the rest of the game.
- 44:58You just have to use pinch hitters or you have to let the
- 45:00pitcher bat. You lose the DH if you take the
- 45:03player out of that spot and move him into the field.
- 45:06So having an emergency catcher on the roster would be really
- 45:09useful. So I still think ultimately
- 45:13Jorge Mateo probably makes it, but from a performance
- 45:16perspective, he hasn't really earned the spot this year.
- 45:20And so you're trying to figure out Jorge Mateo, Brett Wisely,
- 45:25Dominic Smith, Kyle Farmer, you probably have two or three
- 45:30roster spots among those four guys.
- 45:33I do think Dom Smith's your DH against righties.
- 45:36I do think Kyle Farmer makes a lot of sense to either be your
- 45:40DH against lefties or you put him at second base and you let
- 45:44Ozzy Alby's DH, right, Give him a chance to not be in the field
- 45:49for 162 games. And I guess that final spot
- 45:53probably goes to Jorge Matteo, but I think they could go with
- 45:55Mateo or Brett Wisely. Either way, you're probably the
- 46:00end of the day, that's the last guy on the bench and he's
- 46:02probably not playing a lot. I want to talk about the depth,
- 46:07the pitching depth in the miners right now.
- 46:10And when you look at the the depth in there, it's actually
- 46:14relatively deep. And I'm curious to see what you
- 46:16think about this because I'm going to mention some names and,
- 46:19and you tell me what you think about that.
- 46:20So guys like Luke Sennard or Garrett Bowman or Blake Bulk,
- 46:25Halter, Burke Halter, Roddy Munoz, Hayden Harris, Lucas
- 46:30Bronze, a name that's been talked about the last couple
- 46:32years. Like could you see those guys
- 46:35being factors later in the year? Because we knew that injuries
- 46:39for starting and you mentioned it earlier in the episode, the
- 46:41whole rotation was on the IPL to start the year, last year.
- 46:45So I firmly believe that if there's a possibility, could you
- 46:49see any of these guys get called up later in the year?
- 46:53So Harris got a little bit of time late last year.
- 46:57I do think he's going to be in the mix.
- 46:59He's going to be one of those lefties in the pen.
- 47:02I think it depends if they if they lose a lefty, right, if
- 47:07Dylan Dodd is not available, do they swap out Dodd and Harris or
- 47:10things like that? But having options, he got sent
- 47:12down. Blake Burkhalter has moved from
- 47:14a starter to a reliever. That's new for this year.
- 47:17He was a reliever in college. They had him starting.
- 47:20They have him back as a reliever now.
- 47:22But I think the big thing behind a lot of those names, you look
- 47:26at a Lucas Braun, you look at a, you know, a Brett Sears and Ian
- 47:30Maha, Landon Harper. A lot of the guys that you
- 47:32mentioned is there guys who they've been good in the minors
- 47:38and they can give you innings. Like the thing with the Braves,
- 47:42and I talked to Alex and Thomas about this back in December, the
- 47:45Braves have not really wanted to put their starting pitching
- 47:49prospects into the bullpen. They've kept those guys as
- 47:52starters so that they can build those workloads and they can get
- 47:56accustomed to six innings, you know, 5 1/2, seven innings,
- 48:02whatever it is, every 5th or 6th day.
- 48:05And I do think when you get past the Major League starters and
- 48:10you get past the top prospects like a Richie and a Fuentes and
- 48:13even like an Owen Murphy, you've got a bunch of guys that if you
- 48:18need them to take innings, provided they don't get
- 48:21destroyed at the Major League level, these guys can go out
- 48:25there and take 5 or 6 innings a game.
- 48:27Lucas Braun, you know, through like 150 innings last year, a
- 48:32lot of these guys just were starters all throughout the
- 48:35year. I don't think the ceiling on a
- 48:38lot of those AAA guys like a Braun or a Sears or Amaya Super
- 48:43High, but I think the floor is there where if you need dudes to
- 48:48take innings, they can do it. And then you mentioned like a
- 48:51Garrett Bowman, a Luke Senard. Those are some of the legitimate
- 48:55pitching prospects that they expect to be future starters in
- 49:00the majors. Every year there's a guy that
- 49:03the Braves just shoot through the system like just flies up.
- 49:08AJ Smith Chauver went from high A to the majors by May Spencer
- 49:13Schwellenbach went from high A to the majors by June.
- 49:17Luke Sennard is the guy for me that I think you could see him
- 49:22start off in something like, you know, like hi A and end up in
- 49:28the majors by June if everything clicks right.
- 49:31So they have a lot of they have both quantity of like innings
- 49:36and quality of prospects in the system.
- 49:40And I think that's what makes them, I'm not going to say
- 49:44dangerous, but I think that's what makes them less concerned
- 49:49about. We have to go out and sign
- 49:52whatever starters available right now because they know they
- 49:55have all of these guys and they know that a lot like any of
- 49:59these guys could shoot to the majors in two months if
- 50:04everything starts off well this year.
- 50:08Everybody, when they lost Schollenbach, they lost Walter,
- 50:10they lost Wentz, everybody's saying go sign Chris Bassett, go
- 50:14sign Lucas G Leader or whatever. The Braves are confident in the
- 50:18depth that they have. That's why they've said we'll
- 50:21add an impact. We'll add a postseason caliber
- 50:24starter. We're not going to add a #5
- 50:27because we've got number fives at home.
- 50:29We've got number fives in the farm system we can call up at
- 50:32any time. And that's kind of where that's,
- 50:35that's how I feel like this farm system sets up is they've got a
- 50:38ton of options to take starts. My question would be when you
- 50:42get to the postseason, are they comfortable in any of these guys
- 50:46being postseason starters? I don't think they are, but the
- 50:50goal should be get to the postseason first.
- 50:56In February, the Atlanta Braves signed their ace Chris Sale to a
- 51:01one year $27 million contract with a a club option in 28 for
- 51:0630 mil with no buyout. What does it mean to bring back
- 51:11Chris Sale and have him in the in the rotation through 2028?
- 51:15How important is that to the Braves?
- 51:17I think there's two reasons why it's huge.
- 51:20The first one is not having the questions you have about
- 51:26everybody else means that knowing you have your ace back
- 51:31is a big deal, right? We have questions about Strider.
- 51:35Will he ever get back there? Swelling blocks out with the
- 51:38elbow surgery? Like there's so many questions
- 51:40about who would be your #1 starter in a postseason series
- 51:44You brought Chris Sale back for theoretically provided he
- 51:47doesn't just fall off a Cliff. You've got that answer for two
- 51:51years now. But also the size of the deal.
- 51:56The $27 million is the largest single season salary the Braves
- 52:00have ever given out. And the $30 million club option
- 52:05would then, if they pick that up, would be the new largest
- 52:08salary the Braves have ever given out for a single season.
- 52:11And for an organization that lost their TV deal, announced
- 52:16they were doing their own thing. And a lot of fans have this
- 52:19perception of them. It's not true, but this
- 52:22perception of them as being afraid to spend money because
- 52:28they don't want to go into the top of the free agent market and
- 52:34pay those prices to be able to show, hey, we will pay those
- 52:40prices. We just want to do it for known
- 52:43quantities who are already in our clubhouse, who everybody
- 52:47loves and who have performed versus going out.
- 52:51Like if we're if we're going to pay a record contract to
- 52:54somebody, we would rather pay it to a guy who's a leader in the
- 52:58clubhouse than to some random player off the street who's
- 53:02never been in this room before. So signaling to the fans that
- 53:07they're willing to spend the money, signaling to the players
- 53:10that like, hey, we're spending the money we have to spend to be
- 53:13competitive. And then having him back
- 53:16guaranteed for at least one year, if not two, kind of gives
- 53:20you the ability you can set him as the number one and then
- 53:24figure out everything below him. It's a lot.
- 53:26Life's a lot easier if you know who's starting game one of that
- 53:30postseason series. All you have to do is figure out
- 53:33two and three. You don't have to figure out,
- 53:35hey, who's our game one starter. So I, I do think that's a big
- 53:39deal here for the Braves. It's just what he brings on the
- 53:43field, off the field, but then also to the fans.
- 53:48Yeah, let's talk about the depth of the shortstop.
- 53:50Depth specifically. And you know, there has been an
- 53:53issue throughout the years after Danby Swanson has left the
- 53:57organization to sign with the Cubs.
- 53:59They haven't really had a a surefire shortstop since, but
- 54:04they brought back Hassan Kim. Unfortunately, he got injured in
- 54:08a freak accident during during the offseason.
- 54:11Who would have thought about? They traded for Maricio Dubin
- 54:16for Nick Allen from the Astros and I want to talk a little bit
- 54:19about some in the minors. I know that Alex drafted a
- 54:23couple guys in in the system and signed some guys in the system
- 54:26like like for example, Tate's selfie scene.
- 54:30I believe he was drafted in first round and Alex look, Dici
- 54:33was also drafted in the same draft as selfie scene.
- 54:36However, John, John Gill, like talk a bit about him because it
- 54:41seems like he has blossomed out of nowhere and he's only 19
- 54:45years old. I didn't even think about that.
- 54:47I thought he was in his 20s, but this guy's a teen and I believe
- 54:51he's starting what double AI believe.
- 54:53And then you got Jose Pradoma who was a big signing in their
- 54:56national signings couple years as well ago.
- 54:58Like talk a bit about that shortstop depth.
- 55:00Now it's it seems like it's in a better state compared to the
- 55:04previous years. Yeah, the the Braves have it
- 55:07all. Had always been very heavy into
- 55:09drafting, pitching over position players.
- 55:12And this last draft, their first four draft picks were all middle
- 55:16infielders. But John Heal was an
- 55:18international free agent. He turns 20 in mid-May.
- 55:23But the big thing here is defensively he is very, very
- 55:28sound. And this winter, like the the
- 55:32issue with John Heel was always like he adjusted to being
- 55:37stateside. He spent the full season or he
- 55:39spent the entire year in full season ball, 100 games in single
- 55:43A, they skipped him over high A and he spent a week and AA to
- 55:47end the year. And the whole thing for him was
- 55:51he wasn't really kind of like he was showing good contact
- 55:54ability. The defense was there.
- 55:56The base running was fantastic. He stole 50 bags and single a
- 56:01like bag every other game, but the power hadn't really shown
- 56:05up. Some of that was just hitting a
- 56:06lot of ground balls, but some of that was just a lack of
- 56:09strength. He came in spring training this
- 56:11year looking like a strong safety, like he put on good size
- 56:17and is impacting the ball with a lot more kind of authority and,
- 56:22you know, power behind it. And so he's probably the middle
- 56:27infielder with the highest ceiling in the organization
- 56:33simply because if everything clicks, he has the speed and the
- 56:38stolen base ability, he has the potential for hit tool, he has
- 56:42the defense, but he can also now kind of add in the power.
- 56:47The questions going to be as he plays defense with this new
- 56:52size, can he still defend as well as he did when he was 20
- 56:58lbs of muscle lighter, right, but highest ceiling.
- 57:02And I'm really curious to see what they do between him between
- 57:06Alex Lodis, between, you know, Cody Miller, the third round
- 57:11pick last year out of college. It makes sense that they would
- 57:14probably all kind of be in hi AI know John Hill spent a week in
- 57:20AA, but based on experience wise, you would probably start
- 57:24that guy off in Hi A to start the year.
- 57:26But if you put all three guys in Hi A as a lot of log jam to try
- 57:30to get some shortstop time in. So somebody's going to have to
- 57:33go up to AA to start the year and it feels like it might be
- 57:41John Heal. And if that's the case, awesome.
- 57:44Kim's on a one year deal. He could walk after this season
- 57:47if everything broke right for John Heel, and I'm not saying it
- 57:51will, but if everything broke right for John Heel, you could
- 57:55see him challenging for the starting shortstop job in 2027.
- 58:01I don't think that that's probably, that's probably not
- 58:04going to happen. I don't think they're going to
- 58:07want to go into 27 with saying this is our planet shortstop.
- 58:12They're going to want to have other options.
- 58:13But he's the highest ceiling guy.
- 58:18Alex Lodis is fantastic defensively.
- 58:21Even in college, he chased way too much.
- 58:24So we've got to see him get that figured out, get that fixed.
- 58:28Cody Miller, to me is the most exciting of the three simply
- 58:32because he does so many. He's so defensively versatile.
- 58:37He's fantastic at 2nd, at third, at short.
- 58:41He's got more speed, he's got underrated power.
- 58:44I think he could end up being that utility guy, kind of the
- 58:47successor to Mauricio Duban, where he could play anywhere.
- 58:52If you need him to cover outfield, you need him to cover
- 58:54shortstop for a week while a guy's nicked up.
- 58:56He could do all those things. And then Tate Southocene is, I
- 59:01mean, he's just now 19 years old.
- 59:03He was the first round pick last year.
- 59:05I'm really curious to see how many positions they have him
- 59:09play. There were scouts before the
- 59:11draft who thought that he would be a center fielder in baseball,
- 59:15not a shortstop. So I'm curious to see, do they
- 59:18keep him in the infield? Do they put him out on the grass
- 59:21some? What do they do?
- 59:23I do think it's a little bit of a longer build simply because so
- 59:26many of those prep players really kind of struggle with
- 59:31going from a 35 game high school schedule to 120 game
- 59:37professional schedule. It's a physical grind.
- 59:40I do think he's going to be clearly behind those other three
- 59:43guys, but he could be just as impactful as anybody else.
- 59:48But I do think John heals probably the first one we see at
- 59:51the Major League level. And I get it.
- 59:53Everything breaks right. Could be as soon as 2027.
- 59:59The WBC was on the past couple weeks.
- 1:00:02It just ended last night with Venezuela winning it all.
- 1:00:06Congratulations to them, by the way.
- 1:00:10And yeah, great games. Fantastic games.
- 1:00:14The Braves had a few players in the WBC with Chadwick Trump
- 1:00:18playing for for Netherlands and Nacho Alvarez in Mexico and of
- 1:00:22course Ronald playing for Venezuela.
- 1:00:25The the the winning team. So and he looks great.
- 1:00:29He looked fantastic. So talk about some of the
- 1:00:32performances that you noticed from your guys in the WBC and
- 1:00:38Ronald and and what he and how he looked.
- 1:00:42Yeah, kind of started with Ronald.
- 1:00:44The last time he went to the WBC was 2023.
- 1:00:48He played center field. They didn't have a center
- 1:00:50fielder at that time that they do now.
- 1:00:52And he came to MLB and probably won MVP.
- 1:00:58It was, it was kind of like he played winter balls and he went
- 1:01:01to the BBC and then he won the MVP.
- 1:01:03I'm kind of hopeful that that repeats this year.
- 1:01:06But we saw him running like his infield single against team,
- 1:01:12against Team USA was the fastest Sprint speed that he's put up
- 1:01:20in, I want to say, since 20, since early 2024 or late 2023.
- 1:01:27So seeing that he's fully healthy there, he had, you know,
- 1:01:30lead off home runs, you know, the kind of things that Ronald
- 1:01:34does. He had a big throw that they
- 1:01:36didn't test him. So it didn't count as a as a
- 1:01:38output assist. But he showed that he's fully
- 1:01:41healthy. And Ronald's one of those guys
- 1:01:44where I feel like the confidence is a big deal, right?
- 1:01:47He needs to feel comfortable that he is healthy and has to be
- 1:01:51confident that he can perform to go out there and be his best.
- 1:01:55And I do think that the WBC he likely saw that.
- 1:01:59Hey, I shouldn't have any restrictions this year.
- 1:02:02I can do anything I want to do on a baseball field.
- 1:02:05And when you combine that with a manager in Walt Weiss who has
- 1:02:09been outspoken on, I want to give him time off.
- 1:02:14I want to use him at DH to save his legs.
- 1:02:18If you give him a day off going into an off day, he gets two
- 1:02:21days off. Or if you DH him coming out of
- 1:02:24an off day, it's kind of like you ease him back into action.
- 1:02:28This could be a massive year for Ronald Lecudin Junior.
- 1:02:30I don't think he steals 73 bags again.
- 1:02:34But if you come back to this in on September 18th and say, hey,
- 1:02:39Ronald's close to a 5050 season, I wouldn't be shocked simply
- 1:02:43because of how good he's looked at the WBC and how loose and
- 1:02:50free he's playing. I don't think he has that mental
- 1:02:53concern about the health of his knee.
- 1:02:56You saw it in 2022, right? He came back from the first torn
- 1:02:59ACL and he didn't look like the same guy.
- 1:03:02He was playing tentative. He needed time off.
- 1:03:05You don't see that now and I think that's big for Ronald.
- 1:03:09Ozzie Albee's I think looked fantastic for Team Netherlands.
- 1:03:12He had the first walk off home run in the BBC history.
- 1:03:15One of the issues he had early last year was recovering from
- 1:03:192024's broken wrist. He didn't have any power early
- 1:03:22in the year. We're seeing the power.
- 1:03:25We saw what in the BC yet He popped the home run, had some
- 1:03:27hard hit balls. I feel good about his ability to
- 1:03:31at least maybe not be the classic Silver Sluggy S Silver
- 1:03:34Slugger esque Ozzie, but at least be, you know, able to hold
- 1:03:39his own there at second base. And then Trump got a lot of, you
- 1:03:43know, high level reps if they need to call him up to replace a
- 1:03:47Baldwin or a Haim or whatever, I feel like he's going to be
- 1:03:50prepared to step in, although it's clearly going to be a step
- 1:03:53down off of a Baldwin or a Murphy or a Haim.
- 1:03:56So just lots of good stuff from the Braves.
- 1:03:59Nachos is an interesting one because he is also learning
- 1:04:02catcher to kind of be a more well-rounded utility man.
- 1:04:06So that I think that's interesting.
- 1:04:07But he even had some good games for Mexico, including the home
- 1:04:09run. So there you go.
- 1:04:13Yeah, Speaking of what Weiss, he's heading into his first year
- 1:04:17as the Braves manager. He did have some managerial
- 1:04:20experience in the past when he was with the Colorado Rockies
- 1:04:22for for a brief moment. But what do you think can change
- 1:04:28to clubhouse presence with him? Because Snicker was around for
- 1:04:31quite some time. And knowing the Braves history,
- 1:04:34they love hiring managers who's been part of Braves history or
- 1:04:38Braves alumni's right. So talk about Weiss of how he
- 1:04:43can help his team out thrive throughout the season.
- 1:04:47Yeah, I think the big thing for what Weiss is, is knowing,
- 1:04:51understanding the guys as well as he does and having the
- 1:04:53relationships. Him and Ronald are very close.
- 1:04:56Ronald calls him Hefe, you know which term of endearment in
- 1:04:59Spanish. And and I think the thing with
- 1:05:04Brian Snitker, he was a, he was a player's manager, right?
- 1:05:08He always stood up for his guys, but he was patient, sometimes to
- 1:05:14a benefit, sometimes to a fault. Marcelo Zuna in 2023 after the
- 1:05:18first month of season was batting like O 57 or something
- 1:05:21terrible like that. And snit stuck with him.
- 1:05:25And from after the first month to the end of the year, he ended
- 1:05:28up batting like 300 with 30 something home runs.
- 1:05:31I mean, he was almost a 4100 guy in 2023.
- 1:05:35Walt Weiss is a little bit more impatient.
- 1:05:38He's flat out told us like he's not as patient as Brian Stinker
- 1:05:41is. And so I do think that being
- 1:05:46able to understand and recognize, hey, this isn't
- 1:05:50working, we need to change something.
- 1:05:52Being quicker to get to that, whether it's like in a game with
- 1:05:56a pitcher who's off or larger picture over a series or a week
- 1:06:01or a month with the lineup or whatever.
- 1:06:04I think that'll be useful. But the thing that stood out to
- 1:06:07me the most about what why it says he's been very good in
- 1:06:09interviews about talking about being open and wanting the data.
- 1:06:16He wants the information that it kind of felt like Ryan Sinker
- 1:06:22didn't necessarily pay attention to.
- 1:06:24He wants the information, he wants the data, and his job is
- 1:06:29to figure out the right way to apply it and relay it to the
- 1:06:34players. And at times, Brian Sitter did a
- 1:06:37lot of things, especially with his bullpen, that felt like he
- 1:06:42was just, he had this idea and he was sticking with it no
- 1:06:47matter what, right? Like, like I handed this thing,
- 1:06:50he would deploy his relievers in a certain order.
- 1:06:53We're going to go this guy to this guy to this guy.
- 1:06:56And it kind of ignored where you were in the lineup, the
- 1:06:59handedness of who was coming up, etcetera.
- 1:07:02And it just feels like Walt Weiss's going to be more open to
- 1:07:07adjusting that a little bit and being more understanding.
- 1:07:12I'm going to put these guys in the best position to succeed
- 1:07:16versus saying, hey, this guy's my setup guy, so he's always
- 1:07:20pitching the 8th, this guy is always pitching the 7th,
- 1:07:23etcetera. Just being a little more
- 1:07:25flexible and a little quicker to pivot if things aren't working.
- 1:07:30I think it's going to be big for the Braves.
- 1:07:34So looking at the the NL ES, sorry, what are some
- 1:07:38expectations that you have for this team, you know, heading
- 1:07:42into the season? I honestly think like I, I, I
- 1:07:48think it's going to be difficult.
- 1:07:49Could it have to require a lot of injuries again for them to
- 1:07:53not be a playoff team? I do kind of waiver sometimes
- 1:07:59about what is the ceiling, is this an NL E winning team or is
- 1:08:04this just a wild card team? But I do think that last year a
- 1:08:10lot of the issues like yes, there was the pitching injuries,
- 1:08:13but before that a lot of the issues they had, they had a
- 1:08:19inordinate number of losses in one run games.
- 1:08:22A lot of that came back to the bullpen, which we addressed and
- 1:08:26they really struggled offensively as they were
- 1:08:29adjusting to a new hitting coach and a new way of doing things at
- 1:08:35the plate and we saw the offense get better in the second-half.
- 1:08:38The offense has been fantastic in spring.
- 1:08:42I see this as a playoff team and I don't.
- 1:08:44I don't think that should be a question of to whether or not
- 1:08:48they will be a playoff team, assuming there's no ridiculous
- 1:08:53number of injuries. Again, my my question would be
- 1:08:58will they win the division or not?
- 1:09:02And I do think it depends on, I'm not super high on Philly.
- 1:09:07I do think that New York has to figure some things out.
- 1:09:12They brought in some quality players.
- 1:09:14They've changed a lot of pieces and they've got to gel everybody
- 1:09:18and they've got to figure out they've got 2 infielders playing
- 1:09:22new positions for the first time ever, right?
- 1:09:25They've got, you know, they're moving Juan Soto from right to
- 1:09:28left. They're counting on Luis Robert
- 1:09:30to figure it out in center field when he hasn't been that guy in
- 1:09:34a couple seasons. Like they have a lot of talent,
- 1:09:37but a lot of questions. The rotation has a ton of
- 1:09:39question marks. I think Atlanta and Philly
- 1:09:43should rightfully probably be the top two teams in the
- 1:09:46division and I see a path for Atlanta to win the division.
- 1:09:49It's just you, you need you need to stay healthy.
- 1:09:53And I think if Atlanta stays healthy, they should be the
- 1:09:55division winners. It's just a question of how much
- 1:09:58do injuries hit them More than they already have this year.
- 1:10:04So to wrap this up, there's a sequence of question I want to
- 1:10:07ask you here. It's a little bit of everything
- 1:10:09that probably equivalates to what the what the question is.
- 1:10:13And the Braves finally got their own network and that's Braves
- 1:10:17vision, right? And it's been too long since
- 1:10:20they should, they should have had a network a long time ago,
- 1:10:23but they finally did. It's never too late on that.
- 1:10:25And also with the profitable, profitable revenue, the money
- 1:10:30they made this past year, it was it was a significant amount as
- 1:10:32well. And how do you look at it on a
- 1:10:35payable perspective? We know that Alex Adopolis has
- 1:10:38been very, very reserved, very calculated.
- 1:10:41And knowing that Terry McGurk is the CEO of the Braves.
- 1:10:44And could you see the Braves AD payroll by the trade deadline?
- 1:10:49Because you wrote on your article that there's a
- 1:10:51possibility they might ride with this rotation.
- 1:10:54There has been rumors that they've been trying to add in
- 1:10:56the offseason. They they haven't really done
- 1:10:59that and they've been going more internally.
- 1:11:01But could you see all any of that happen?
- 1:11:04Things of like things can change in a hurry, Like could you see
- 1:11:07any possible way? I do.
- 1:11:10And I do think one of the things that the Braves have been
- 1:11:12willing to do in recent years is take on money to get players
- 1:11:18right. And I'm thinking about they got
- 1:11:19rise of Iglesias from the Angels by taking on the entire deal.
- 1:11:23Even the Jared Kellnick trade, which didn't work out, was a
- 1:11:26good idea. They took on some dead money,
- 1:11:29like $15 million total in bad contracts to get a former top
- 1:11:35prospect who had struggled with his old team.
- 1:11:38It didn't help that he ended up being a butt head and just a
- 1:11:40dummy and it didn't work out from an attitude perspective.
- 1:11:43He had a bad attitude in Atlanta, but the process was
- 1:11:47sound. And I think Saving Jerks and Pro
- 1:11:49Farce 15,000,000 bucks this year means that they should have
- 1:11:54plenty of money to add between now and the trade deadline.
- 1:12:00And I fully expect them to do that simply because when they've
- 1:12:05been competitive and they've gotten to the trade deadline,
- 1:12:09they have done that. They've been willing to take on
- 1:12:12contracts to get guys, They've been willing to spend more
- 1:12:17money. They want to save at least 10
- 1:12:19million, but there's been trade deadlines.
- 1:12:21They've added $15 million in payroll just to get pieces to
- 1:12:25help the team. I think they're going to be in a
- 1:12:26position to do that where they initially expected their payroll
- 1:12:31to be fifteen $20 million higher than it actually is.
- 1:12:34So I do think they're going to end up adding the questions
- 1:12:40going to be what are they able to get?
- 1:12:43And I guess really kind of what are they going to need?
- 1:12:46I think we all kind of assume they're going to need a starter.
- 1:12:48You can see a scenario where they don't need a starter,
- 1:12:52right? If some of these prospects like
- 1:12:54a Fuentes or a Richie work, you can see a scenario where they
- 1:12:57don't need a starter. The questions just going to be
- 1:13:00what do they add? But I do think they're equipped
- 1:13:03to go out and shop in any aisle they want to shop and go get any
- 1:13:06guy that they decide they need at the trade deadline, provided
- 1:13:11they're willing to move the prospects to do it.
- 1:13:14Well, Lindsay, we appreciate your work.
- 1:13:18Thank you all Like and we've we've seen all your work.
- 1:13:21You don't you do a great job. Great information over here in
- 1:13:23this episode. And I'm pretty sure a lot of
- 1:13:26these fans, especially Braves fans are going to listen to his
- 1:13:28butt. Where can we find you in social
- 1:13:30media and everywhere else? So on social media, I'm at
- 1:13:34Crosby Baseball, the written work, Braves today.com, that's
- 1:13:38also a podcast, Braves Today podcast, wherever you get your
- 1:13:41podcasts and on YouTube. And then once the season starts,
- 1:13:45we'll have post game shows on Locked On Braves and Locked On
- 1:13:48Sports Atlanta going live after each and every Atlanta Braves
- 1:13:52game. Yeah, this was awesome, man.
- 1:13:55Thanks for joining us. It was, it was really fun to
- 1:13:58learn about what's going on with the Braves heading into the
- 1:14:00season, learn about their spring training, even talk a little bit
- 1:14:04about some of their WS WBC guys. So it was fun.
- 1:14:08Hopefully we can have you back down the road.
- 1:14:10But thank you very much, man. It was awesome.
- 1:14:14Thanks for having me fellas, I appreciate.
- 1:14:16It we will place the description below where you can find Lindsay
- 1:14:19Crosby and his work. Till next time, take care, be
- 1:14:22kind to each other. Signing off from the Sports Ave.
- 1:14:24Twister podcast on Wednesday, March 18th, 2026.