Latest / Early Edition with Ryan Bridge / Justin Tighe-Umbers: National Road Carriers Association Chief Executive on road user charges
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Fueld taxes are out, road user charges are in for everyone.
- 0:02Speaker 1: The government scrapping the two tier system where petrol drivers
- 0:05Speaker 1: paid at the pump, diesel and EV's paid per kilometer
- 0:08Speaker 1: though not their fair share, and the new system will
- 0:10Speaker 1: be electronic and reflect our changing vehicle fleet according to
- 0:13Speaker 1: the government. Justin Tayumbas is the National Road Carrier Association CEO.
- 0:17Speaker 2: Justin good morning, Good morning Ran.
- 0:20Speaker 1: What are truckies? And I know people don't like that
- 0:22Speaker 1: term anymore, but what do they think of it? What
- 0:24Speaker 1: does it mean for them?
- 0:26Speaker 2: Yeah, Look, I think what it means ultimately for truckies
- 0:30Speaker 2: road transport operators is going to be that we'll get
- 0:33Speaker 2: our roads paid for in a better way than what
- 0:35Speaker 2: we are at the moment. So there's a big leak
- 0:37Speaker 2: in the bucket, Ryan, and that's you know, we're just
- 0:40Speaker 2: not bringing in enough from the current system, from the
- 0:42Speaker 2: fuel tax at the pump where the numbers billions actually
- 0:46Speaker 2: in terms of what we're behind for what we need
- 0:49Speaker 2: to maintain our current network and hopefully build some better roads.
- 0:53Speaker 2: So no road freight industry will be pleased with us change.
- 0:56Speaker 1: Does it make it cheaper for road freight?
- 1:01Speaker 2: Look, we want to see the network paid for in
- 1:06Speaker 2: a fair share. And what happens when you move to
- 1:08Speaker 2: ruckers the road user charges. You start paying by weight
- 1:12Speaker 2: and distance traveled, which is actually fairer than paying for
- 1:15Speaker 2: what you pay for at the pump, because that just
- 1:17Speaker 2: depends on how efficient your petrol engine is. So road
- 1:21Speaker 2: freight will continue to want to pay for the fair share,
- 1:23Speaker 2: but absolutely plugging this gap, we've got cars that aren't
- 1:28Speaker 2: paying for the fair usage that will certainly make it better.
- 1:32Speaker 1: None of this is coming until twenty twenty seven at
- 1:35Speaker 1: the earliest. Should the government be making it more of
- 1:38Speaker 1: a priority. Should it be happening sooner than that?
- 1:42Speaker 2: Yeah, you could argue that the challenges I guess is
- 1:46Speaker 2: that the government of the Crown is having to put
- 1:48Speaker 2: in grants, taxpayer money is having to go in to
- 1:52Speaker 2: prop up maintaining the road network. So certainly we need
- 1:56Speaker 2: to get on with it. That said, it's a once
- 1:58Speaker 2: in fifty year change. Every country around the world's actually
- 2:02Speaker 2: facing this problem were you've got evs and far more
- 2:05Speaker 2: efficient petrol engines just reducing how roading's paid for. New
- 2:10Speaker 2: Zealand's actually and we're in quite a good position because
- 2:13Speaker 2: we're world pioneers in road user charges. We were the
- 2:16Speaker 2: first to bring it out in the late seventies. We're
- 2:19Speaker 2: still a world leader on it with Electronic Rock for
- 2:22Speaker 2: how trucks pay for it, so we're actually in quite
- 2:25Speaker 2: a strong position compared to other countries.
- 2:27Speaker 1: Justin great to have you on the show. As always,
- 2:29Speaker 1: Justin taiamba's National Road Carry Association CEO.
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