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Mark Belling Podcast #115:   The fatal flaw in Tucker Carlson's argument that US needs to warm up to Islam and disconnect from Israel.  Trump's hold on GOP voters remains strong as anti-Trump Congressman Thomas Massie loses his primary. · The Mark Belling Podcast

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  Speaker 2: Most people tend to be followers other than in the
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  Speaker 2: narrow fields in which they fashion themselves to be experts.
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  Speaker 2: Because we have so many people that are sheep, the
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  Speaker 2: current whole genre of influencers has taken hold. If most
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  Speaker 2: people need to be led, that means there have to
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  Speaker 2: be at least some people that they're going to listen to.
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  Speaker 2: How do you get led if you don't know who
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  Speaker 2: it is that's supposed to be your leader. For that reason,
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  Speaker 2: I think when a bad idea or a flawed idea
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  Speaker 2: is thrown out there, you can't ignore it. You have
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  Speaker 2: to debunk it, or at least explain why it's a
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  Speaker 2: bad idea or why it's flawed. I'm bringing this up
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  Speaker 2: in the whole context of Tucker Carlson. You know, for
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  Speaker 2: the last number of months, one of the questions I
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  Speaker 2: get asked all the time is what's happened to Tucker?
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  Speaker 2: The cousin of that question is what's happened to Candace?
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  Speaker 2: And now the new question is what's happened to Began. Well,
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  Speaker 2: I'm not here to dive into all of those right now,
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  Speaker 2: although I'm going to lude to it a little bit
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  Speaker 2: later on. But I do want to talk about one
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  Speaker 2: of the points that Tucker Carlson has been making lately,
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  Speaker 2: because it's very flawed. I'll introduce it for a moment
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  Speaker 2: here and then we'll get into it. In his criticism
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  Speaker 2: of the United States relationship with Israel, he states that
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  Speaker 2: we're cozying up to the wrong religion. That Islam is
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  Speaker 2: a religion of hundreds of millions, billions of people, and
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  Speaker 2: the entire Middle East is Islamic. We're much better off
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  Speaker 2: developing a stronger relationship with Islam. I've been worrying about
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  Speaker 2: this one little, tiny country in the middle of all
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  Speaker 2: of this Islam, the Jewish state of Israel. Now, on
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  Speaker 2: its face, that may make some sense, but it's a
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  Speaker 2: very flawed idea, and I want to explain why that
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  Speaker 2: is essential, not an option on its face. Where Tucker
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  Speaker 2: is arguing seems logical. And what I found is in
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  Speaker 2: our world right now, fewer and fewer, maybe it's always
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  Speaker 2: been like this, Fewer and fewer and fewer people question anything.
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  Speaker 2: People have come to just embrace whomever their influencer of
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  Speaker 2: choice is. We've made fun of people on the left
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  Speaker 2: who listen to those dingbats on the view and clap
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  Speaker 2: it every everything that they say without even thinking about
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  Speaker 2: how stupid it is. Some of argued the same thing
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  Speaker 2: on the right that whatever Trump says, some of these
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  Speaker 2: people go along with, perhaps so on all of the
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  Speaker 2: different wings now of what passes itself off as conservatism.
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  Speaker 2: They're influencers who say this, or opinion leaders who say that,
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  Speaker 2: and people I think tend to embrace what they want
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  Speaker 2: to believe, and my whole career has been spent trying
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  Speaker 2: to avoid that, to make people think things through and
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  Speaker 2: be open to conclusions that they don't want to reach,
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  Speaker 2: very very hard to do. One of my sayings on
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  Speaker 2: the radio show that we need to crank out right
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  Speaker 2: now is that rationalization is the second strongest human drive.
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  Speaker 2: We have a desperate need to justify the things that
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  Speaker 2: we have done and the things that we believe in.
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  Speaker 2: Very hard to admit you're wrong, very hard to say
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  Speaker 2: that an idea that you thought made sense turns out
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  Speaker 2: to be stupid. And indeed, in this dilemma that we face,
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  Speaker 2: Islam and it's moved, at least among many, toward radicalism.
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  Speaker 2: And the problem this presents is it's just very easy
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  Speaker 2: to believe, well, if we weren't so dog gone tied
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  Speaker 2: to Israel, all these radical Muslim governments and organizations, they'd
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  Speaker 2: be fine with us. And I think that that's one
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  Speaker 2: of the things that Tucker is peddling right now, except
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  Speaker 2: it's raw. Here's the reality, and the reality is based
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  Speaker 2: on just looking at what's going on in the world.
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  Speaker 2: There are numerous nations and cultures that have opened themselves
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  Speaker 2: up to Islam, including by the way, to a large
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  Speaker 2: extent here the West, it's been a very very difficult coexistence.
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  Speaker 2: Look at Europe. Let's just take the UK. The Muslim
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  Speaker 2: influx migrants to the UK who are Muslim has been
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  Speaker 2: in massive number and there's an enormous culture clash. Some
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  Speaker 2: of the progressives in Britain are trying to pretend that
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  Speaker 2: it doesn't happen, while others are rebelling against it. There
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  Speaker 2: are things in Muslim culture and Muslim belief that simply
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  Speaker 2: don't coincide with other civilizations. Some of them have to
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  Speaker 2: do with their views on sex, the role of women
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  Speaker 2: in society, having a multicultural state in which we are
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  Speaker 2: embrace all diversity. Most Muslims don't buy into that. A
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  Speaker 2: fundamental teaching of Islam is and every religion has this,
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  Speaker 2: But a fundamental teaching of Islam is that Muhammad was
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  Speaker 2: a prophet, He's shown the way, and all other beliefs
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  Speaker 2: are unacceptable. The difference is that's saying that something is
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  Speaker 2: unacceptable and allowing others to have that belief is different
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  Speaker 2: than your belief is unacceptable, so therefore you're not allowed
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  Speaker 2: to have it. If we could just snap our fingers
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  Speaker 2: and get along with the nations that are governed by Islam,
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  Speaker 2: how come nobody else is able to do it. The
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  Speaker 2: only nations that essentially are allied with these strong Muslims saying,
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  Speaker 2: are other Muslim states. Some of the countries like just
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  Speaker 2: take Russia and China. Have you noticed that Russia and
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  Speaker 2: China don't allow Muslims to move into their countries. There
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  Speaker 2: is a minority population in China, the Wakers, who are Muslims,
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  Speaker 2: and China has been doing its best to wipe them out,
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  Speaker 2: to exterminate them. They can't coexist. On the other hand,
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  Speaker 2: there is a long history of Western cultures being able
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  Speaker 2: to coincide with Jews, the vast majority of I don't
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  Speaker 2: think I've ever met a Jewish person who's trying to
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  Speaker 2: convert me to Judaism. I don't think it's ever happened.
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  Speaker 2: We have a common in our country historical footing. We
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  Speaker 2: talked about our Judeo Christian values. The thing about Islam is,
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  Speaker 2: you know, all of these major religions, they all accept
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  Speaker 2: a portion of the Bible, and Islam accepts much of
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  Speaker 2: the Biblical story. They just say that all of this
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  Speaker 2: that the Jews being the chosen people, that ended, and
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  Speaker 2: there's a new covenant and God is a lah etcetera, etcetera, etcetera.
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  Speaker 2: But when you see jihad, when you see terror groups emerge,
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  Speaker 2: their whole goal is to enforce their radicalized view of
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  Speaker 2: Islam and their belief that their God wants them to
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  Speaker 2: kill everyone who is a non believer. How do you
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  Speaker 2: coexist with that. There's never going to be any appeasing
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  Speaker 2: of it. Let's imagine, and this is a dream that
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  Speaker 2: many apparently wish. Let's imagine Israel's wiped out, that the
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  Speaker 2: Muslim nations that surrounded Flattnet wipe it out, kill all
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  Speaker 2: the Jews in Israel. Do you really think for a
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  Speaker 2: moment that our problems with those Islamic nations will end?
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  Speaker 2: Israel is just one of the things that bugs them.
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  Speaker 2: It bugs them because there's this tiny little speck of
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  Speaker 2: the Middle East that isn't Muslim. They don't like that,
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  Speaker 2: so they want to wipe it out. But once they
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  Speaker 2: wipe it out, they'll take note of all the rest
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  Speaker 2: of the world that isn't Muslim. As I say, look
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  Speaker 2: at the problems in the UK, or look at the
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  Speaker 2: problems in France, there's open hostility to demand by many
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  Speaker 2: Muslims who migrated to that to those countries to move
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  Speaker 2: over to their way of life. There is an intolerance
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  Speaker 2: that makes coexistence impossible. So, without regard to what our
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  Speaker 2: support of Israel should or shouldn't be, this idea that
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  Speaker 2: we have a lot in common with Muslims and we're
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  Speaker 2: better off align with Muslims is not based on reality.
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  Speaker 2: And again I'm not suggesting that every Muslim who lives
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  Speaker 2: in the United States is a threat. Most Muslims who
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  Speaker 2: live in the United States here have found the ability
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  Speaker 2: to coexist, not all. It seems to me that a
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  Speaker 2: huge percentage of the Somali migrants to the United States
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  Speaker 2: muslim have come here with no exire, no desire to
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  Speaker 2: coexist to American values, but they simply want to run scams.
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  Speaker 2: When you take a look at some of their spokespeople
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  Speaker 2: like elan Omar, you see a hatred, a seething dislike
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  Speaker 2: of the United States, which of course makes you wonder
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  Speaker 2: why you come, why they come here, and why they've
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  Speaker 2: migrated to the UK, and why they've migrated to France.
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  Speaker 2: This whole thing is just to tease this notion that
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  Speaker 2: we can have a sane and peaceful coexistence with much
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  Speaker 2: of Islam. I didn't say, ah much of Islam that
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  Speaker 2: is hell bent on world domination and utterly intolerant. Let
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  Speaker 2: me prove my point further. Many in Islam, perhaps more
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  Speaker 2: than half, can't even stand what they considered to be
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  Speaker 2: woosy Muslims. There are Islamic nations, or at least were
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  Speaker 2: that weren't particularly intolerant for the longest time. We got
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  Speaker 2: along with Iran before you know, when they have the
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  Speaker 2: Shah and the oil emirates that were there or right now,
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  Speaker 2: the Gulf States, we get along with the UAE, we
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  Speaker 2: get along with Dubai, we get along with Qatar. To
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  Speaker 2: some extent, those nations are hated by many rat Callai's Muslims.
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  Speaker 2: In Iran, they overthrew them and proceeded to kill off
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  Speaker 2: as many of them as they possibly could. And look
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  Speaker 2: now who is a Ran targeting with what's left of
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  Speaker 2: their drones and the few bombs they can throw up
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  Speaker 2: the Gulf States, and those Gulf States have been covertly
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  Speaker 2: bankrolling terrorism forever in an attempt to keep the radicals
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  Speaker 2: in Islam at bay. Look where it's gotten them. Now.
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  Speaker 2: I want to comment briefly on how Tucker has gotten
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  Speaker 2: to this point. It's a phenomenon and it's going to
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  Speaker 2: be relevant in the next segment that I get to
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  Speaker 2: Thomas Massey losing in Kentucky. Trumpt derangement syndrome is real.
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  Speaker 2: It's a real thing because I've seen the following pattern
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  Speaker 2: play out again and again and again and again and again. Trump,
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  Speaker 2: unlike almost any other American leader or popular figure in
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  Speaker 2: contemporary times, provokes people are just set off by him
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  Speaker 2: in a way that I haven't seen with others, and
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  Speaker 2: it manifests itself like this for many people, they'll find
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  Speaker 2: themselves breaking with Trump on one issue. In the case
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  Speaker 2: of Tucker Carlson, apparently, it's this war with Iran. Tucker
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  Speaker 2: campaigned with Trump, hung around with Trump, Trump's big buddy,
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  Speaker 2: the Republican Convention. He's hanging around, He's hanging around on
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  Speaker 2: election night. He's almost joined at the hip with Trump.
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  Speaker 2: Then Tucker apparently is pounding on Trump to disassociate himself
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  Speaker 2: from Israel and not be involved in, you know, dealing
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  Speaker 2: with a rad and Trump didn't listen to him fair enough.
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  Speaker 2: You're not gonna get everybody to agree with you on everything.
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  Speaker 2: And Tucker has this break. But now, if you notice,
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  Speaker 2: the break isn't just on that. He's railing against Trump
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  Speaker 2: on everything. You've seen the same thing with the movements
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  Speaker 2: that came about back in twenty fifteen and twenty sixteen
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  Speaker 2: of Republicans in the United States where it be can't
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  Speaker 2: call themselves never trumpers. We'll use as just an example,
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  Speaker 2: and I've not to pull it out to pick on it,
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  Speaker 2: but so you can wrap your arms around this. Charlie
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  Speaker 2: Sykes here in Milwaukee, he couldn't warm himself up to Trump.
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  Speaker 2: And the next thing, you know, and he gives I'm
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  Speaker 2: still a concertive. Then he began, I'm not a Republican
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  Speaker 2: anymore if you listen to his beliefs. Now are many
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  Speaker 2: of these others in the never Trump world. They're not
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  Speaker 2: conservative about anything anymore. In other words, they're one or
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  Speaker 2: two or three or four disagreements just led them to
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  Speaker 2: flip on almost everything. Now, I think I know why
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  Speaker 2: this happens. When you break with Trump, if you're prominent,
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  Speaker 2: Trump smacks your back all right. Now it becomes game on.
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  Speaker 2: Marjorie Taylor Green's another example of this. She was pretty
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  Speaker 2: much a lie. I mean, you talk about being joined
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  Speaker 2: at the hip. She hero worshiped Trump biggest cheerleader. Then
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  Speaker 2: Trump told her he didn't want her to run for
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  Speaker 2: the United States Senate in Georgia. Georgia's trum swing state
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  Speaker 2: right now, very very close. They have two Democratic United
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  Speaker 2: States Senators. There's an election. Marjorie Taylor Green wants to
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  Speaker 2: run for the Republican nomination for the Senate. Trump realizes
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  Speaker 2: Marjorie Taylor Green is very polarizing, is going to have
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  Speaker 2: a hard time in her own district, very very popular.
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  Speaker 2: It is a very very Republican district. But in a
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  Speaker 2: statewide election in which you need to get the swing voters,
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  Speaker 2: Marjorie can't get them because they lose her. So Trump
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  Speaker 2: told you can't run for the Senate. She didn't want
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  Speaker 2: to hear that, and the next thing, you know, now
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  Speaker 2: she has to quit the Congress, bashes Trump on everything
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  Speaker 2: out there on the view talking. She totally disassociates herself
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  Speaker 2: from everything he's stood for and now claiming she's Meg
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  Speaker 2: or whatever. And I get that. One of the things
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  Speaker 2: that creates this is, you know, when Marjorie Taylor Green
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  Speaker 2: broke with Trump, on this, and she then you can't
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  Speaker 2: run for the Senate. She fired something back at him.
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  Speaker 2: He slapped her back. Most times when you break with somebody,
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  Speaker 2: they don't slap you back like Trump tends to do,
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  Speaker 2: and it ends up provoking these reactions where people dig
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  Speaker 2: their heels in and wander off, which brings us now
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  Speaker 2: to Thomas Massey curious case, probably the most anti Trump
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  Speaker 2: Republican in the entire US House of Representatives. Kentucky's a
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  Speaker 2: very Republican state, and his district kind of covers the
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  Speaker 2: suburbs of Cincinnati. Cincinnati's on the Ohio Kentucky border, so
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  Speaker 2: the northern Kentucky suburbs of Cincinnati, and then go all
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  Speaker 2: the way over to where Louisville is goes east from
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  Speaker 2: say the suburbs of Cincinnati over to just north of Louisville.
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  Speaker 2: So it's got a lot of the rural areas without
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  Speaker 2: getting the urban vote in there. So it's a very
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  Speaker 2: very Republican district. That's what Massi represents. Massy fashions himself
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  Speaker 2: as a principled conservative. I've argued forever that Trump is
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  Speaker 2: a moderate conservative on many issues. He's not a hardcore conservative.
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  Speaker 2: If anything, you'd think that the left would warm up
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  Speaker 2: to him because he's not as far to the right
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  Speaker 2: as some conservatives have been. He's more of a common
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  Speaker 2: sense conservative, and it's the reason why I think he's
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  Speaker 2: been able to attract voters in the middle. For all
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  Speaker 2: of the dislike that people have of his personality, many
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  Speaker 2: of the issues that he campaigns upon are more moderate
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  Speaker 2: and common sensorient in his embrace of the middle classes,
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  Speaker 2: embrace of lower income voters, just the whole, no taxes
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  Speaker 2: on tips, if anything, that would have been a liberal
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  Speaker 2: position in the Pitt Anyway, Massey considers himself to be
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  Speaker 2: a pure libertarian focused conservative, So he disagrees with Trump
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  Speaker 2: on one or two issues, and the next thing, you know,
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  Speaker 2: he can't get out of his own way and he's
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  Speaker 2: bucking Trump on almost everything. So, of course, what do
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  Speaker 2: you think is Trump's been around now long enough. What
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  Speaker 2: do you think is going to happen? If you start
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  Speaker 2: bucking Trump? He's going to buck you. Did I enunciate
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  Speaker 2: that clearly enough? Very dangerous phrase to throw it there. Anyway,
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  Speaker 2: Trump is not going to take it laying down. So
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  Speaker 2: he went after Massy, So Massy becomes even more anti
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  Speaker 2: Trump Meanwhile back in his district, very republican district in Kentucky.
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  Speaker 2: Kentucky one of those states that was a swing state
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  Speaker 2: that's gotten very very republican. However, it's also a state
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  Speaker 2: that will occasionally elect a Democrat. Their governor, Basher is
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  Speaker 2: a Democrat who well run for president, and if he
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  Speaker 2: does run for president, he could win because he's not
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  Speaker 2: as far to the left as most of the loon's
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  Speaker 2: over there in that party. So Kentucky has that well,
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  Speaker 2: it's a very very republican state. It does show the
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  Speaker 2: ability to go and vote occasionally for a Democrat. Eclectic
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  Speaker 2: in their viewpoints is Kentucky. So here's Massy. He says,
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  Speaker 2: I'm voting the way my district wants me to vote. Well,
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  Speaker 2: they may agree with him on some of these things,
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  Speaker 2: but you've also seen that a whole lot of Republicans
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  Speaker 2: are frosted that we can't advance our entire agenda because
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  Speaker 2: people wander off on their tangents. The Freedom caucuses over
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  Speaker 2: here demanding more, and then the moderates are saying that
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  Speaker 2: went too far, and the next thing, you know, you
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  Speaker 2: can't get anything done. So Massey gives ripping Trump primary
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  Speaker 2: election in Kentucky. Was I'm doing this podcast than Wednesday?
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  Speaker 2: It was yesterday. There's a Republican challenger to Massy in
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  Speaker 2: his own district. Trump backs the challenger. A lot of
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  Speaker 2: money is spent by both sides. Massy has the advantage
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  Speaker 2: of incumbency. The people over there know him. Massey lost.
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  Speaker 2: It wasn't a whiteout, but it wasn't that close either.
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  Speaker 2: I think it was like fifty four to forty six,
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  Speaker 2: something in that range. Massey lost. I believe that if
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  Speaker 2: Massey had simply tempered his opposition, you know, you could
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  Speaker 2: vote know on your two or three things, but make
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  Speaker 2: it clear that you still think highly of Trump and
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  Speaker 2: you agree with him on most everything. Trump's criticism of
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  Speaker 2: him would have been tempered and he would have been
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  Speaker 2: able to work through this. But instead the two of
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  Speaker 2: them got into this war. If you get involved in
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: a war with Trump and you're both Republicans, Trump's going
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  Speaker 2: to win. I mean, this just drives people crazy, but
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  Speaker 2: it's true. This year, almost everybody that Trump is endorsed
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  Speaker 2: in a Republican primary in these elections has won. The
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  Speaker 2: same thing happened last week with Bill Cassidy to the
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  Speaker 2: Senator from Louisiana. Cassidy's a conservative, but Cassidy did, and
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  Speaker 2: it was I just think of case of kicking a
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  Speaker 2: guy for the sake of kicking him, because you think
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  Speaker 2: you get a free shot in kick somebody in the
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  Speaker 2: balls that you know can't get up and do anything
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  Speaker 2: about it. Cassidy voted to not only to impeach, but
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  Speaker 2: to convict and remove Trump from office. He did this
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  Speaker 2: in twenty twenty one. In January. Trump had only a
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: few days left in his term. But after the impeachment
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: vote of the House, after the January sixth protest got
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: out of hand, they had the vote in the Senate
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: to convict, you need two thirds. They didn't get to
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: two thirds. But Massey, Republican from Louisiana, and I suspect
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: almost no Republicans in the state of Louisiana supported removing
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: Trump because they all knew it was gratuitous. Massy rather excuse,
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: I said, Massy Cassidy, Cassidy the Center from Louisiana. Cassidy
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: doesn't like Trump. Didn't let you know, he's a senator.
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: He's an old bull, Republican, old guard. It didn't like
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: any of the things Trump represented. Okay, Trump lost the
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: election in twenty twenty. It's two months later. Now this
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: thing occurs. Trump's politically dead. It's the end of it.
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: Let's smack him. As we all know, Trump wasn't dead.
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: Trump backed a challenger to Cassidy. In Louisiana, third candidate
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: ran Cassidy's unpopularity got so great he ran third in
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: the primary. Even the second candidate, who was not backed
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: by Trump but Challengeman he ran ahead of Cassidy. To
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: support for Cassidy of Vappera, you know what, are went
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: done to nothing. I'm not saying that this works in
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: a in a state wide election where all the Democrats vote.
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: It may well be that the backing of Trump would
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: be a negative, for example, in a general election here
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: in Wisconsin. But within the Republican Party, this is still
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: clearly a Donald Trump party, and the overwhelming majority of
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: voters don't like these Republicans who go out of their
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: way to block Trump. In the meantime, there's this. I
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: commented on this story during my hiatus and posted a
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: few things on x which I did a lot more
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: posting on during the four months that I didn't have
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: the podcast. For those of you who stumbled around and
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: just finding my podcast for the first time. I have
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: a May first, a December thirty first podcast, so that
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: means that I got four months in which I don't
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: have much of an outlet, so I would post on
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: X and I think it was during this point. It
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: might have been before. I'm not sure that the whole
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: Nicki minaj thing emerged. Nicki minage is she's now over forty,
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: so she's been around for a while. She's one of
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: the biggest feat female hip hop stars of all time,
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: and kind of out of nowhere. She started posting on
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: social media issue oriented supports of Trump's position. I think
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: one of the first was in support of photo I
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: D for voting and a couple of issues like that
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: she has stayed with us and is not backed a way.
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: There's a big story this week in the Wall Street
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: Journal on page one on how all this came about
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: and how Nicki Minaj's support of Trump has been reinforced
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: by some people that are closed to her, and how
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: people in the Trump universe have embraced this. What you
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: have in the case, and there's been clearly career risk
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: for Nicki Minaj. A lot of older her fans have
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: turned on her and are hacked off. On the other hand,
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: she's made other parts of her fan base more loyal
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: than ever because they see this is the ultimate You know,
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: the whole rap hip hop culture was rebellion, rebellion, rebellion, rebellion.
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: It started with hating the police, hating this, hating that. Well,
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: now rebellion against the popular culture means that you're rebelling
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: against this leftism that says you have to think a
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: certain way. I know there are a lot of people
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: when Nicki Minaj first posts started posting in favor of
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: conservative physicians, they didn't think it was real, and they
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: think thought it would last, and they thought that this
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: was you know, like Kanye or something like that. But
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: it's still happening. She's still there, she seems committed. This
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: seems to me to be the case. And what an
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: artist makes a risk like this. You can say that, well,
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: maybe she's trying to become the one hip hop artist
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: that actually is pro Trump. She's passed her hit making No,
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't say passed her hit making prime. But as
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: I said, she's in her forties. This is when you
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: start transitioning into in all these act more than anything else.
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: Whether it's calculated or not, it just seems to me
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: that it is real and that it is sincere, and
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: that she's a smart, independent minded person who thought things
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: through and came to certain conclusions and is embracing them.
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: As I said in the beginning of the segment, that's
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: rare most people follow the whole thing. I've explained this
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: in the past, I'll do it again. Do you know
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: why Hollywood has left? Because Hollywood has left? Why is
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: most of the music business left? Because most of the
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: music business is left. These people in Hollywood are people
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: that obviously their entire careers and their lives are focused
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: on approval. If you're an actor, you have to have
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: people like you where you're not going to get cast
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: at anything. They're very, very needy people. By necessity, you
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: have to be needy. You have to embrace the love
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: and the world. You want people to spend money to
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: go see you and we'll be your seat on the show,
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: or listen to your songs and so on. So they
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: see that everybody around them thinks a certain way, They're
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: going to think that way too, because they want their approval.
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: You don't want to stick out like the sore thumb,
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: because they'll turn on you. So once Hollywood started moving left,
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: almost everybody in Hollywood we left. The only ones that
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: haven't are those that are independent minded and were able
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: to think things through and say no, I'm not going along.
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: Those people then become opinion leaders. No I think I
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: consider myself to be an opinion leader. Why else would
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: you listen to me? If you didn't think I was
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: an opinion leader. If you didn't think that my comments
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: had value, or I didn't have anything interesting to offer,
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: There wasn't going to be any substance you're why did
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: you listen? But there were certainly all sorts of things
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: in which I'm not an expert. My players in Floyd,
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: I am vexed with this problem that I'm having with
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: a handle on the toilet. It seems simple to fix,
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: but it's defying my fix. So I'm going on a
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: floorida this weekend. I'm gonna have a plumber commit and
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: fix the handle because I know nothing about it. Take
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: any field that you have out there, most of us
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: don't know much of anything about those things. So therefore
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: you listen to people who you think may know more
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: than you. But that doesn't mean even if you lack
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: a lot of knowledge based that you can't think on
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: your own. COVID proved this. Most of us don't know
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: anything about viruses and so on. So when Fauci and
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: a handful of so called public experts said something, some
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: people outsource their brains, even though what we were being
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: told made no sense. We've had viruses forever and ever
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: and ever. When did we shut down all the schools
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: and stop people from going to church? And you have
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: no sports never, So why were we doing here? People
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: could think that part true or Faulcy telling it's not.
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: In all, the virus didn't come out of the Wuhan lab,
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: even though they were doing research on this exact virus
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: in the Wuhan lab, and the first place that COVID
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: showed up was Wuhan. Look At how many people said that.
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: Those of us who said, yeah, it came from the
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: Wuhan lab said that we were spreading disinformation. It was
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: an inability on the part of those people to have
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: an open mind, even if you're not an expert in virology.
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: Is that what the study of viruses is? I think
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: it is virology. In fact, I think that's what they
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: called the Wuhan Lab Institute of Virology or something, I
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: mean in China. I'm sure they didn't pronounce it virology.
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: I think that's what it means. You can still use
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: your brain to ask yourself whether or not this thing
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: makes sense. You're listening to the Mark Belling podcast. This
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: is the Mark Belling podcast. There's an interesting story going
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: on in a Wawaukee right now. In fact, by the
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: time you hear this, the other shoe may have dropped again.
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: We're recording this early in the day or right around
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: midday on Wednesday. Marty Brooks, who's the head of the
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: downtown Milwaukee Convention Center, appears to be on the verge
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: of being fired. He's had the job since I think
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: it was twenty eighteen. I made the comment a few
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: months ago again, I think it was during my hiatus
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: period and amid a social media comment or elsewhere that
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: Brooks is continuing in that position was untenable. Several months ago,
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: there was an event at a downtown Milwaukee bared restaurant
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: and a munch of the high muckety MUCKs of the
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: City of Milwaukee were there. After the event was over,
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: there was an allegation made by a very prominent Milwaukee
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: public figure, and there is zero reason not to name
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: these people. They're making allegations against one another. Jose Perez
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: is the president of the Milwaukee Common Council. That means,
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: if for some reason, Cavalier Johnson stopped being the mayor,
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: Jose would be the acting mayor. He's also a member
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: of the Convention Center board. He's certainly the most powerful
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: member of the city council. Perez claimed that after this
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: event he was touched inappropriately by Marty Brooks, the head
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: of the Convention Center. There was a criminal investigation in
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: a referral to Milwaukee County District Attorney's office, and the
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: DA's office came back and said, we can't prove this
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: beyond a reasonable doubt. So nobody was clear. The DA's
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: office didn't say it didn't happen. What they did say
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: is we're not bringing criminal charges because we don't think
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: he could prove them. And clearly, unless there were cameras there,
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: and apparently there wasn't camera footage of that moment, it
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: was a he said, he said situation. So let's start
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: with this. You've got a guy who's on your board
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: and the most powerful alderman in Milwaukee believing that you
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: committed a sexual assault on him. That's your one of
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: your bosses. Then the next thing, you know, as I said,
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: Brooks is the head of the convention center. That means
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: he sees things. He's myopic in a way that of
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: course he's myopic. All he's focused on was what he
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: thinks is good for the convention center. For the rest
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: of us, we have to balance that again, what's good
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: for the taxpayer, what's good for the regent, etc. But
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: Brooks is looking up for the convention center and he
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: believes we need to get another hotel in downtown Milwaukee,
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: and we need a hotel that's connected to the conventions.
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: That's what he believes. Every convention center head in America
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: believes this because they all think the more hotel rooms
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: that we have down by the convention center, the easier
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: it is to attract bigger and bigger and bigger conventions.
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: This has been going on forever. And then there's the
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: argument in the little argument the chicken in the egg.
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: Do we not have more hotel rooms because we don't
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: have any conventions, or do we not have any conventions
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: because there are more hotel rooms. In any event, Brooks
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: decided to commission a study to see whether or not
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: we need a new downtown convention center hotel. Now I've
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: explained to the past how you what happens when government
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: commissions a study. In the history of these studies, there
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: may be one case I'm just not aware of it
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: where the person hired to do the study doesn't come
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: back and tell you what you want to hear. Let's
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: imagine you're a consultant who gets there gets their business
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: by doing studies for government. You're not going to get
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: any business if you come back and tell them what
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: they don't want to hear. It's like all these consulting
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: firms that are hired to determine whether or not there
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: should be a school referendum. They always claim that should
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: be a school referendum because the people that are asking
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: want to have a referendum, so they don't want somebody
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: to come back, you don't need a referendum, you don't
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: need more buildings, you don't need to spend more money.
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: So Brooks hires this firm. They come back and said, yes,
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: we need a new convention center hotel. Here's the thing, though,
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: Brooks did not get the approval of his board. Brooks
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: is the guy that runs the entity, but he's not
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: on the board. He's like and it's a direct example
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: a superintendent of schools. Now, in school boards, you have
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: way too many of these school boards who seed away
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: all their authority to the superintendent. And maybe over time
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: that was happening at the convention Center authority as well,
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: because prior to all of this, I think Brooks was
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: doing a very good job over there. But he went
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: and commissioned the study, and the study came out and said, yeah,
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: you need a hotel. And the basic idea was to
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: knock down the UW Milwaukee Panther Arena that's the former
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: Milwaukee Arena, and the Miller High Life Theater which is
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: the former Milwaukee Auditorium, and put a hotel there. That
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: is not in the best interests of the entire community.
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: The arena is not only used for UWM basketball, it's
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: used for the Admirals and the Waves and the occasional concert.
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: The Miller Highlife Theater is very underutilized. I think it
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: should have been torn down back when it was the auditorium,
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: but it hosts some things, in particular with regard to
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: the arena, all of the people who use the arena,
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: including UWM, the Admirals, the Wave, and all of their
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: fans now and there's been blowback to this that city
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: officials have been listening to. In addition to that, the
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: consultant study also said, if you do this hotel, you're
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: gonna have to subsidize it. Now, as I pointed out forever,
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: if something needs to be subsidized, it doesn't mean a
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: bad it's a bad idea. It does mean, however, that
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: there isn't enough business world to succeed without the subsidy.
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: We have all these other hotels in downtown Milwaukee that
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: weren't subsidized. Why should they have to compete against the
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: subsidized hotel. And if there is indeed this massive market
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: for more hotel rooms down there, why do you need
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: a subsidy to make it go. So there's significant opposition
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: on the Convention Center board to this proposal, but they're
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: really appalled by the fact that Brooks made the decision
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: to go out and get this study going without them
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: giving them, without the board giving them the greenlight to
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: do it. So I think he's going to be fired
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: and probably rightly. So the thing of it is, I
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: think he's done a pretty good job running the convention Center.
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: I mean that convention center had almost no action before
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: he got here. The Republican Convention held in Milwaukee in
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: twenty four was extremely successful. Now that wasn't entirely Brooks's deal,
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: nor you could even say mostly his deal. Most of
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: the convention was held at the FI Serve Forum. The
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: FFI Serve form is not part of the convention Center district,
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: but they use the other buildings and there was a
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: cooperative relationship there. It was. He was certainly part of that.
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: And the Republican Convention in Milwaukee went as smoothly as
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: anything could possibly go, and it did show that we
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: can handle the giant convention with a lot of attendees
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: and so on in Milwaukee. But whether he inappropriately touched
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: or grabbed Jose Perez or not, Jose Perez said that
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: you did, and he thinks that you did, and he's
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: got more power than cloth than you do. In the meantime,
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: you blow off the rest of the board and just
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: say I'm going to go and do this study because
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: I want to get this thing done. You're not the policymaker,
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: You're the employee. He's put himself in a situation that
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: I say is I just think untenable. I think he
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: can't survive it. And it's pretty clear to me that
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: he doesn't go to survive it. Where are we in
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: the war with Iran? Two days ago, Trump posted the
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: following on truth Social I want you to listen to
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: the whole thing, because it's telling. I have been asked
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: by the Amir Qatar Taman bin Hamad al Thani, the
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia Mohammed bin Soman al Saud,
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: and the President of the United Arab Emirates Mohammed bin
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: Sayed al Nahean to hold off our planned military attack
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: of the Islamic Republic of Iran, which was scheduled for
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: tomorrow that would have been two days ago. In that
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: serious negotiations are now taking place that, in their opinion
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: as great leaders and allies, a deal will be made
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: which will be very acceptable to the United States of
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: America as well as all countries in the Middle East
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: and beyond. The deal will include importantly no nuclear weapons
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: for Iran. Based on my respect for the above mentioned leaders,
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: I have instructed Secretary of War Pete Higgsith, the Chairman
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, General Daniel Kine, and
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: the United States military that we will not be doing
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: the scheduled attack of Iran tomorrow, but have further instructed
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: them to be prepared to go forward with a larfaul
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: large scale assault of Iran on a moment's notice in
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: the event then an acceptable deal is not reached. Then
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: yesterday this from Trump. We're going to end that war
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: very quickly. They want to make a deal so badly.
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: They're tired of this. It's the President.
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: No.
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: I told you to listen to the statement Bury closely. Trump,
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: in his statement of two days ago said, based upon
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: the strong input of the leaders of the Gulf States,
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: we're holding off on our attack. We do have in
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: the Muslim world, in the Arab world, and intermediary that
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: is now on our side, and that's the Gulf States.
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: These countries that are very very oil rich, and the
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: Gulf States and Saudi Arabia and now are increasingly trying
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: to get American tourism. Saudi Arabia spending a fortune on
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: its development program to get tourism going. There's been some hiccups.
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: You know this back Bank World, the Live Golf Tour,
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: the United Arab Emirates, Well that's Dubai and those nations.
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: They don't want a war with Iran. They want the
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: war to be over, and they don't like Iran because
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: Iran destabilizes the region and their whole thing is stability.
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: Let's all make money. So they've been in the same
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: way that Pakistan was brokering because of its relationship with Iran,
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: the Emirates are trying to The Golf States are trying
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: to broker because of the relationship with us. But there's
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: a butt here and that. Butd is it sure reads
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: to me like these Golf states are terrified that Iran
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: is going to keep throwing drones and missiles at them.
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: Iran a few days ago through a missile from a
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  Speaker 2: drone at their nuke plant in the United Arab Emirates.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think that they have the stomach for a
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  Speaker 2: continued conflict. These nations are very, very rich. And the
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  Speaker 2: same way that Trump has criticized Europe for not backing
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: its in the war with Iran and for always hiding
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  Speaker 2: in the corner when something needs to be done, even
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: though we protected them forever. You can make the case
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  Speaker 2: that that's what's happening right now with the Gulf States,
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: that they don't have the stomach for this, and they
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: keep dragging out and dragging out and dragging out. No.
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: On Trump's comment that Iran really wants a deal, I
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: think some in Iran's government do really want a deal.
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: The whole problem there is there's clearly not speaking of
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  Speaker 2: one voice. When we knocked off the leadership, there's like
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: nine or ten different factions now running Iran. The more
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: pragmatic of them want, the ones that want to sell
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: their oil and all of that. I think they do
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: want a deal, and perhaps they're willing to give up
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: on the nuclear ambitions. But the radicalized ones who worldview
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: as premised on the Stone Age, they aren't going to end.
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  Speaker 2: They never will. I do believe Ari Fleischer, who he's
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: very pro Israel. He was w Bush's press secretary. He's
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: now a prominent conservative commentator. He's pretty pro Trump. He
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: posted the following an x If the reason the military
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: campaign against Iran did not resume today is because the
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: Gulf States feared they would continue to come under Iranian attack,
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: then the war is over and Iran wanted. If the
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: Gulf States are so fearful that they capitulate and won't
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: support taking out the aggressor, then Iran has the leverage
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: and holds the cards now and in the future. Iran
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: started this war, it's time to finish the job and
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: bring it to a successful end. Now. Again, Fleischer is
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: from this wing of conservatism that believes Iran has to
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: be neutralized. There's also a wing of conservatism wing that
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: believes that we shouldn't do anything about Iran. So what
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: if they get a new and then there are people
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: like me. I think Iran is a terrible threat, but
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  Speaker 2: I also don't support a ground war, and it's possible
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: that the only way to knock out the leadership of
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: Iran is is through a ground war. I think that
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: if what we have accomplished is to drastically weaken Iran,
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: wipe out most of their military, and at least set
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: back their nuclear program, that's a victory. It may not
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: be as big of a victory as we wanted, but
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: it's a pretty good victory. Of course, we're the ones
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: that won the war. They're way off, way worse than
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: we were before this thing got started, So when do
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: you walk away? I think if they don't get a
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: decent negotiated settlement, we should ignore what the Gulf States
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: have to say. I'll go in and hammer them for
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: one more week, try to do even more damage to them,
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: do everything we can to weaken the infrastructure of the country,
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: to create the conditions in which there may be a
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: revolution from within Iran to overthrow that government. But no,
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: I don't support a ground invasion. I think a lot
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: of people on the pro war side of this thing do.
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  Speaker 2: I think that's where you get into a situation in
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: which this becomes worse for the United States than if
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: we didn't do a ground invasion. So when you see
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: people like our inflation, oh no, no, because these are people
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: that desperately want the Iranian government wiped out. And that's
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: the position I'm sure that Israel has, because Israel wants
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: a different regime that's in place there. This is where
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: the Tucker Carlson's of the world get it wrong. But
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: so do some of the people on the other side.
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: Our role here isn't to do what Israel wants. And
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: this is where Tucker's run often what Israel wants, he
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: is what we want, and we're better off. But the
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: regime thing change thing is something that I don't think
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: we can pull off on our own, but we can
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: certainly we get it to the point that it may fall.
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: I use an analogy, but I think this analogized itself.
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: You're listening to the Mark Belling podcast. This is the
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: Mark Belling podcast. As I do this podcast, the Milwaukee
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: Brewers are in first place, which is remarkable because they
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: were nowhere near first place only a few weeks ago.
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: They're hot. Baseball is a very very long season, and
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: I've noted over the years that every team gets really
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: hot twice. If you're a really bad team, your hotness
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: isn't as great as if you're a really good team.
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: But even really terrible teams will have stretches in which
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: they play really good, and even really really good teams
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: will have two stretches of which they play really terribly.
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: There is a debunking of that. The Brewers never had
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: their stretches of really terribly last year. But I think
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: they're in one of their stretches right now of being
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: really really good, and it helps that they're being really
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: really good when they play the Cubs. There's Game three
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: on tonight. As I do this, you may be listening
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: to the podcast after that. If the Brewers can come
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: up with a sweep, it's certainly encouraging in the cubs
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: of the team, one of the two teams you have
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: to beat to win your division. Probably, I just think
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: that once again, the Brewers have extremely good pitching. The
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: young pitching that they have continues to develop under the
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: pitching program that they have. It's led by the best
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: pitching coach in baseball, and barring injury, and they've already
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: had quite a few of them, there's no reason for
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: me to think that they're not going to be right
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: there throughout the course of the season. And which should
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: be scary for the rest of the division is the
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: Brewers are going to be better next year and the
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: year after that. Several of the best players in all
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: of minor league baseball are in the Brewers' farm system. Jason,
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: did you see that home run Thatjesus made hit the
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: other day? Yeah, this is a nineteen year old kid.
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: He's kind of an infield version of Jackson Curio. He's
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: now ranked the number one prospect in all of minor
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: league baseball. They're moving them up very fast. He probably
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: shouldn't already be in Double A, but he's advancing so quickly,
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: and very much like Schurio did in his career. He
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: starts slowly when he's advanced at a level, and then
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: hits his stride and starts freaking out. Anyway, he's still
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: very skinny plan for Biloxi, and they're playing Montgomery, so
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: everything down there is down south. In fact, the league
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: is the Southern League. He hits this home run. I
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: just I've watched a lot of baseball. When a ball
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: there are certain players in which the ball just seems
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: to jump off their bat. I mean, when I first
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: saw Ryan bron he had that. When Christian Yelich was
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: in his prime, he had that that the ball just
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: seems to take off quicker and the swing is just
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: a whip like swing. Maday hits this ball to right field.
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: And in the stadium in Montgomery, they don't have bleachers
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: in that section of right field. They have like a
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: grassy area where fans kind of hang around and just
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: sit there, or they're on a blanket or picking tables
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: and so on. And behind that is a row of trees,
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: and behind the row of trees is a parking lot
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: with the cars. He hits this home run and it
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: goes over the fans that are in the grassy area
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: behind the grassy ear of these streets. It counts over
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: the trees and lands in the apparently smacked a car
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: in the parking lot. I don't know if they came
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: up with a measurement of that. I did check the
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: distance the power alleys. There are three seventy, but this
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: is a little bit closer to the line, so I'll
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: say three point fifty to the stand to the fence,
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: and I don't know how long the grassy area was.
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: But then it went over the trees that are behind
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: the grassy. The guy just screams freak. They have another
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: guy named Cooper Pratt, shortstop. They've already signed him to
• 50:42
  Speaker 2: a long term contract. He's an infield that they've got.
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: An infielder in Appleton is really really good. So the
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: breweries in a season that you might have thought was
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: kind of a holding patterned season, and the newest big
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: guns come around next year. Because they're pitching is so good,
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: they look to me to be good enough to stick
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: with this thing throughout the entire year. That's it for
• 51:02
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