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Joe Rogan Experience 2463 Steve O · Bedtime Stories

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  Speaker 1: The Joe Rogan Experience.
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  Speaker 2: Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day.
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  Speaker 1: Headphones, no headphones? Yeah, I don't need headphones.
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  Speaker 2: We're going no headphones. Fuck it. What's up, dog?
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  Speaker 1: How are you? Well, dude, it's been a roller coaster
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  Speaker 1: for me, man.
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  Speaker 2: Since the last time I saw you?
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  Speaker 3: Big time.
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  Speaker 2: What happened?
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  Speaker 1: Well, let's see here. The... The year of 2022. Last
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  Speaker 1: time I saw you, I think it was 2023. Was
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  Speaker 1: it that long ago? I think it was, man.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. And, man, dude, I was on high the year
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  Speaker 1: of 2022. Like, we had our Jackass movie in theaters,
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  Speaker 1: number one. It was big. Like, you know, my profile
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  Speaker 1: was all, you know, like, white hot. The world just
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  Speaker 1: opened up from the pandemic, and everybody had stimulus money
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  Speaker 1: and they were just revenge spending. Everyone wanted to go
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  Speaker 1: out to shows and there were no interest rates. Money
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  Speaker 1: was free. It was just like a perfect storm for
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  Speaker 1: me to have the most successful year of my life.
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  Speaker 1: Like more than double what my next most successful year was.
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  Speaker 1: And then like, I don't know, maybe I just got
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  Speaker 1: like super, super high on that, you know? Like, and
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  Speaker 1: it was just like, I was just kind of printing money,
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  Speaker 1: you know, like selling merch like crazy and like everything
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  Speaker 1: was just going so well. And I don't know if
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  Speaker 1: maybe like you become more successful and like people get
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  Speaker 1: angry at you, you know, but there's a point after
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  Speaker 1: that where I felt like, man, the internet turned on me,
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  Speaker 1: kind of, you know, like I saw a lot of
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  Speaker 1: negative comments, people saying that, All I do is promote merch.
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  Speaker 1: There's a bunch of different stuff. I legitimately agree. That's
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  Speaker 1: my thing. When I see a negative comment about me,
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  Speaker 1: if I agree with it, then it really bothers me.
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  Speaker 1: I've got to do something about it. I've heard you
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  Speaker 1: say that. Taking criticism constructively is super helpful.
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  Speaker 2: It's very helpful. The problem with the Internet is it's overwhelming.
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  Speaker 2: It's too many voices, too many different people. That's why
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  Speaker 2: I would never recommend for a person like you to
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  Speaker 2: even read the comments.
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  Speaker 1: Right. What I did was— Do you have a dick
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  Speaker 1: tattooed on your right eyebrow?
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  Speaker 2: Is that what that is?
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  Speaker 1: That's exactly right.
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  Speaker 2: How long do you have to keep that for?
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  Speaker 1: I don't have to keep it for any amount of time.
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  Speaker 2: Is that a bet or anything?
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  Speaker 1: It is a bet how long I last before I
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  Speaker 1: get lasered off.
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  Speaker 2: And is there a money value to this bet?
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  Speaker 1: No, it's more of an experiment.
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  Speaker 4: Oh.
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  Speaker 1: But I've been doing really well with it.
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  Speaker 2: It's not even a good dick. It's like a weird dick,
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  Speaker 2: like a banana dick.
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  Speaker 1: It's pretty awesome.
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  Speaker 2: And it was— I think you're bad at taking criticism.
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  Speaker 1: And— It was done by Post Malone.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, well, it makes it even better.
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  Speaker 1: It makes it awesome. Yeah. I don't expect to keep
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  Speaker 1: it forever, but I was very shocked when I got
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  Speaker 1: it that my life didn't really change a whole lot.
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  Speaker 2: Eh, it's you.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Like if, you know, Marco
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  Speaker 2: Rubio got a dick tattooed on his forehead, he'd be like, hey,
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  Speaker 2: take his fucking clearance away.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. But in any case, man, like... I, uh, I just,
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  Speaker 1: you couldn't be more right. There's so many voices and everything,
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  Speaker 1: but I agreed with a bunch of stuff. And, um,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I spent like 2024, 2025, like, like very mindfully, um,
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  Speaker 1: addressing the, you know, the criticism with which I agreed.
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  Speaker 1: And I felt like I made like really good progress,
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  Speaker 1: you know, like sort of, uh, repairing my my reputation
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  Speaker 1: even though maybe i didn't even need to.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think you needed to.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe not but uh and and then coming into 2026
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  Speaker 1: i was like wow i did this i i uh
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  Speaker 1: texted you i was like dude i got on this
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  Speaker 1: mr beast thing i won the whole damn thing and
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  Speaker 1: uh you know the this video he made 30 celebrities
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  Speaker 1: compete to win a million dollars for charity Oh, who
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  Speaker 1: were you on with? Uh, dude, it was, uh, Matt
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  Speaker 1: Rife was one of them. Oh, cool. Saul Volcano. Oh, nice.
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  Speaker 1: Howie Mandel.
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  Speaker 4: Nice.
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  Speaker 1: Diplo. Nice. The Bella Twins.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, so that's a crazy group of people.
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  Speaker 1: It was really crazy.
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  Speaker 2: So there was 20? 20 people? 30 of them.
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  Speaker 1: 30?
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  Speaker 2: Oh, wow.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. 30, like, like not half-assed celebrities by any measure. And, uh, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I won the whole damn thing, which was.
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  Speaker 2: So what was involved? What'd you have to do?
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  Speaker 1: Um, there was, uh.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it was an exercise in promoting his Beast
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  Speaker 1: games on Prime, which, by the way, is the most
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  Speaker 1: phenomenal TV show that I've ever watched.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, my daughter was just telling me about it. She
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  Speaker 2: was saying it's so good.
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  Speaker 1: It is unbelievably good. And I'm not being.
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  Speaker 2: Paid to say that. He's a wizard, man. That dude's
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  Speaker 2: very smart.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I got that.
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  Speaker 2: He's like a really interesting guy because he's kind of
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  Speaker 2: open about what he does and he tells people how
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  Speaker 2: to do it.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: You know, like how to manipulate the algorithm and how
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  Speaker 2: to get people to get excited and click on your
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  Speaker 2: link based on what the image is and the text says.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: He thinks about all that shit. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I was able to have him on my podcast like
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  Speaker 1: right when the thing came out. Uh-huh. And he was
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  Speaker 1: telling me that he was pretty close to recording a
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  Speaker 1: podcast with you On the top of the pyramid? Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I couldn't make it out there. I didn't have the time.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. But he's amazing. And I thought when that thing
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  Speaker 1: came out, I was like, man, this is just going
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  Speaker 1: to be life all the time.
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  Speaker 2: Well, here's the thing. People got mad at him. They
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  Speaker 2: got mad at him when he was filming in Egypt
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  Speaker 2: because he was filming with Zahi Hawass. And Zahi is
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  Speaker 2: the– what is the head of the Ministry of Antiquities?
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  Speaker 2: Is that what it is? Or he was at one
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  Speaker 2: point in time. He was one of them. my most
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  Speaker 2: controversial podcast guest. People did not like him because he's
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  Speaker 2: kind of, he pushes a narrative in defiance of all
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  Speaker 2: the evidence that has been sort of uncovered by all
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  Speaker 2: these other people. It's like, there's this evidence that shows that,
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  Speaker 2: you know, the pyramids are Okay, so you're not talking
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  Speaker 2: about Mr.
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  Speaker 4: Beast.
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  Speaker 2: You know Mr. Beast, because Mr. Beast did something with him,
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  Speaker 2: and a lot of people online were mad at him
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  Speaker 2: for having this guy on.
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  Speaker 1: And it's the guy who pushes the narrative.
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  Speaker 2: Nobody knows how they built the pyramids. And he's like,
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  Speaker 2: they built it because it was a national project. And
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  Speaker 2: I was like, come on, bro. That's a fun thing
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  Speaker 2: to say, but that doesn't tell me how they got
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  Speaker 2: all those rocks there. Tell me how they got 2,300,000
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  Speaker 2: stones that weigh between 2 and 80 tons of rock.
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  Speaker 2: And they moved him to the mountains, some of them,
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  Speaker 2: 500 miles away. Well, tell me how they did that.
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  Speaker 2: Tell me how they aligned it to true north, south, east,
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  Speaker 2: and west 4,500 plus years ago. And it's more likely
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  Speaker 2: plus than minus. I mean, nobody knows. So that was
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  Speaker 2: really controversial. A lot of people are mad at Mr.
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  Speaker 2: Beast for that. In the algorithm that I have, people
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  Speaker 2: are calling him a shill and letting this guy say
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  Speaker 2: nonsense on your show.
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  Speaker 1: Wow, okay.
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  Speaker 2: So that's the point. It's like, don't listen.
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  Speaker 1: Right, right, right.
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  Speaker 2: Nobody gives a shit. None of Mr. Beast's fans are like,
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  Speaker 2: we're going to abandon him. He had a song he
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  Speaker 2: lost on spitting out propaganda. Nobody cares, man.
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  Speaker 4: Right, right.
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  Speaker 2: There's just too many voices. Right. Look at yourself. If
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  Speaker 2: you feel like, oh, I'm kind of whoring out my
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  Speaker 2: merch too much, just back off of it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. That's what I did. That's what I did.
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  Speaker 2: He gets shit. For everything because he's uber successful.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 2: So everything he does, like it could be like he
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  Speaker 2: only gave away a million dollars in charity. It's fucking ridiculous, man.
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  Speaker 2: Like you'll never make all those people happy. They don't
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  Speaker 2: want to be happy. That's a big part of what's
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  Speaker 2: going on. You're jumping into a pool of mentally ill
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  Speaker 2: people and trying to stay clean. Hey, guys, guys, guys,
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  Speaker 2: let's be reasonable.
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  Speaker 1: They're not reasonable.
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  Speaker 2: They're fucking suicidal. They know what a gun tastes like.
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  Speaker 2: They've had it in their mouth recently. This is not
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  Speaker 2: a place where you're going to get like rational discourse.
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  Speaker 1: Right. But again, it's when I agree with stuff that.
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  Speaker 2: Right. That it bothers you.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: But do that to yourself.
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  Speaker 1: Right. Right.
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  Speaker 2: Just look at yourself. Take a moment.
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  Speaker 1: Like did like there was a i don't know if
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  Speaker 1: i was burned out like if i was touring but
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  Speaker 1: like um there was a point going through 2022 in
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  Speaker 1: particular 2023 where like i just i would lose my
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  Speaker 1: mind over people being disruptive in the audience at my
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  Speaker 1: shows like i don't even want to um call them
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  Speaker 1: hecklers because I think like heckler has like a connotation
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  Speaker 1: of wittiness to it. I'm talking about just drunk shitheads
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  Speaker 1: just yelling out and disrupting the show. And I would
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  Speaker 1: take the position, I'd be like, man, you know, this
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  Speaker 1: whole audience of people paid their hard-earned money to come
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  Speaker 1: see this show. And this one person yelling out is
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  Speaker 1: just fundamentally disrespecting everybody who's here and I'm not standing
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  Speaker 1: for it. I'm trying to, you know, and I would
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  Speaker 1: be like, I would snap, be like, no, I would
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  Speaker 1: be throwing people out. What happened was everybody thought I
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  Speaker 1: was a dick, you know? And like, maybe so, like
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  Speaker 1: maybe I was burned out and it was like- You
• 9:58
  Speaker 1: were overreacting, overreacting and like that's that's another piece of
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  Speaker 1: criticism that I really really took to heart and now
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  Speaker 1: it's been over two years like well over two years
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  Speaker 1: since I even scolded an audience.
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  Speaker 2: Member or threw them out that's great just gotta kinda
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  Speaker 2: put that energy out there at the beginning we're all
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  Speaker 2: here to have a good time You know, we're all
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  Speaker 2: here to have a good time. Let them know. It's
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  Speaker 2: like if someone's yelling out, like, come on, man. Keep
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  Speaker 2: it to yourself. Stay calm.
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  Speaker 1: Hold it together. If I get, like, really pushed in
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  Speaker 1: an egregious situation, the farthest I'll go is I'll say, hey,
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  Speaker 1: you know what, guys? I used to get really bent
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  Speaker 1: out of shape over people being disruptive, but I don't
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  Speaker 1: do it anymore. And that tends to– That's good. And
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  Speaker 1: as soon as I stopped reacting so much– Like the
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  Speaker 1: problem mellowed out.
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  Speaker 2: But you got to realize like your entire career, you've
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  Speaker 2: kind of been a disruptor.
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  Speaker 1: Sure.
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  Speaker 2: So it's kind of natural that disruptive people would be
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  Speaker 2: attracted to come to your show.
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  Speaker 1: Of course. Of course.
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  Speaker 2: And then you're saying, please be polite at this moment
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  Speaker 2: in time.
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  Speaker 1: Right. Yeah. Like you're about to see me put some
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  Speaker 1: things up my butt and I demand respect.
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  Speaker 2: Is that what.
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  Speaker 1: You do in your show?
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  Speaker 2: You put stuff up your butt?
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  Speaker 1: It's a multimedia show. So, um, So, of.
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  Speaker 2: Course, you put something up. It's multimedia. Self-explanatory, Jamie. What's
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  Speaker 2: with the questions, Jamie?
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  Speaker 1: God. Right.
• 11:26
  Speaker 2: I still to this day cringe when Tim Kennedy choked
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  Speaker 2: you unconscious and let you drop. I was mad at him.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I was mad at him. He didn't have to let
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  Speaker 2: you drop like that.
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  Speaker 1: I did ask him to drop me, which was wrong.
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  Speaker 2: I would have said no.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I would have said no. If you made me
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  Speaker 2: do that to you, first of all, I would have
• 11:43
  Speaker 2: tried to talk you out of it. But then I
• 11:45
  Speaker 2: would have said there's no way I'm going to let
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  Speaker 2: you drop.
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  Speaker 1: In hindsight, it wasn't particularly funny.
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  Speaker 2: Not only was it not funny, it was like super disturbing.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: I would have put a cushion under you at the
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  Speaker 2: very least.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: You know, like a nice, like one of them judo
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  Speaker 2: pads where you throw people on.
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  Speaker 1: Especially being choked out in and of itself is not.
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  Speaker 2: Not that bad.
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  Speaker 1: It's not really a dangerous thing.
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  Speaker 2: Probably not the best way.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know what the data is. I don't
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  Speaker 2: think a lot of jiu-jitsu people have done double-blind placebo-controlled
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  Speaker 2: studies on tap or no tap. What's the best for
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  Speaker 2: your brain? Right. I can't think it's good that your
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  Speaker 2: brain gets shut off for a few seconds. I can't
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  Speaker 2: think it's good.
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  Speaker 1: One of the gnarliest things I've ever done in my life,
• 12:28
  Speaker 1: if not the gnarliest, way back in 2003, we had
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  Speaker 1: just had the first Jackass movie come out. While filming
• 12:38
  Speaker 1: for the first Jackass movie, One of the bits that
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  Speaker 1: it was never used because it was too dark. Too
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  Speaker 1: fucked up? Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: For jackass?
• 12:46
  Speaker 1: For jackass. Right.
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  Speaker 2: Do you have a clip of this?
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  Speaker 1: Of what? I'm sure that it exists. Okay. But you'll
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  Speaker 1: appreciate this. Okay. The legend Gene LaBelle.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, Judo Gene.
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  Speaker 1: Judo Gene, the legend.
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  Speaker 2: Real legend. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Like, they had Gene LaBelle. They lined up the
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  Speaker 1: whole cast of Jackass, and he just went down the line.
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  Speaker 2: Just choked it all out?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and, like, the swiftness with which he got it.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, he was a brutal man.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it was just like, and he was just like.
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  Speaker 2: I'm sorry. Super nice guy, but a brutal man.
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  Speaker 1: Right, and it wasn't even brutal, though. It was, like, gentle.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, really?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it was just so fast.
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  Speaker 2: His style was known for being particularly painful. My friend
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  Speaker 2: Silvio Pimenta was one of his students, and he was
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  Speaker 2: one of my first jiu-jitsu instructors. And he taught me
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  Speaker 2: a bunch of Gene stuff, and I was like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: what a mean guy. Some of his stuff was so mean.
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  Speaker 2: It was, like, knuckles in your neck and, like, real
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  Speaker 2: crazy shit that Gene would do to people.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: It was, like, particularly painful.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, there we go.
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  Speaker 2: There you go. Out cold. Oh, yeah, that looks gentle.
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  Speaker 2: Super gentle. No, I'm not even kidding. Like, the way
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  Speaker 2: he's doing it. I mean, his technique is so flawless.
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  Speaker 1: You know, that– Chuck Liddell was really good at it, too.
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  Speaker 1: He choked me out one time. Who did he.
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  Speaker 2: Punch in the arm full blast? Someone like that. One
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  Speaker 2: of you guys.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, that would have been before Jackass.
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  Speaker 2: Was it Jason Ellis? I forget who it was, but
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  Speaker 2: someone let Chuck... Full blast, right hand them in the arm.
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, well, that arm's useless for a couple of
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  Speaker 2: months now. That's not like your buddy punching you in
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  Speaker 2: the arm versus chuckle. He's going to rip some stuff
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  Speaker 2: apart in there. He might blow your shoulder out. Like,
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  Speaker 2: that's crazy to let that guy hit you.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, what a sweetheart too.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, he's a great guy. Chuck was the weirdest because
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  Speaker 2: when he was in his prime, like you look at him,
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  Speaker 2: he was so scary because he's tall. He was fucking
• 14:45
  Speaker 2: built like a brick shithouse, mohawk, tattoo on his head.
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  Speaker 2: Super kind. Like you talked to him, super calm and relaxed.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, he spent a bunch of time with Chuck.
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  Speaker 2: Great fucking guy. Great fucking guy.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, so Gene LaBelle, like Chuck just lays this all
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  Speaker 1: down one by one. Okay. They considered it too dark.
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  Speaker 1: They didn't even edit it.
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  Speaker 2: Just because he went unconscious?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: What year was this?
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  Speaker 1: 2002 that we filmed the first one.
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  Speaker 2: People weren't used to being choked out yet. The UFC
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  Speaker 2: didn't really get big until 2005.
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  Speaker 1: Right, because of Chuck.
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  Speaker 2: Really? Well, it was really because of Stephen Bonner and
• 15:19
  Speaker 2: Forrest Griffin.
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  Speaker 1: Right, right, right, right.
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  Speaker 2: That one fight on the ultimate. It's crazy. One fight
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  Speaker 2: on the ultimate fighter changed the course of the history
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  Speaker 2: of the sport.
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  Speaker 1: That was the premiere on Spike, yeah. Uh-huh.
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  Speaker 2: Because there was a good fight before that. Diego Sanchez
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  Speaker 2: beat Kenny Florian. So that was before that. That was
• 15:39
  Speaker 2: a really good fight too. But that was like Diego
• 15:43
  Speaker 2: beat his ass. Whereas the Stefan Bonner-Forest Griffin fight was
• 15:48
  Speaker 2: a crazy, like, completely even fight.
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 15:52
  Speaker 2: And two dudes who knew each other really well, and
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: they were fucking going for it. They said that during
• 15:57
  Speaker 2: the time, you know, like maybe a million people were
• 15:59
  Speaker 2: watching it at first, and the peak was like six
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: or seven million, which for them was nuts. So what
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: that meant was everybody was calling their friends. and go, dude,
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: turn on Spike TV right now. This is crazy. And like,
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: what is this? Like, no one knew what it was
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: back then. Like, they had heard of Hoist Gracie, but
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: no one knew that it was gonna be on TV,
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: and they're like, boom, that was it. And then they
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: had Chuck as the champion, which was the perfect champion.
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: For an emerging sport. This guy was just a seek-and-destroy
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: psychopath with a tattoo, like, kanji tattoo on his head
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: and a mohawk just fucking starching people.
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: Woo! I remember that era, too.
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: Wild time.
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: I mean, year 2000 was when Jackass came out on MTV. And,
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: I mean, at that time, you couldn't watch video on
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: the internet.
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: That was the dark times. That was when it was
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: banned from... Cable and you could only watch I got
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: DirecTV because it was the only way you could watch
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: the UFC That's why I got DirecTV.
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: And The media just wasn't so fragmented at that time
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: there were only so many TV channels There was no
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: social media no video on the internet right so when
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: something hit on a basic.
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: Cable it hit big yeah, yeah.
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: And I think the most views and The most concurrent
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: viewers on MTV that we got was like 4.5 million.
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: And that.
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: For cable, that's a lot.
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: That moved the needle in a big way.
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: That's unheard of now.
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: Which is really kind of crazy if you think about it.
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: That's how much things have gotten diluted because there's so
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: many shows. It's impossible to watch everything.
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: Every time I turn on Apple TV, there's some new
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: interesting show. Yeah. There's a fucking million of them on
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: Amazon Prime that you've never even heard of that are
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: really good. They're all over the place.
• 17:50
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I had a really great conversation
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: with Mark McGrath, the guy from Sugar Ray. Oh, really? Yeah.
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: I just fell in love with this guy. I had
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: him on my podcast. Yeah. He made such a valid
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: point about how the 90s, 90s nostalgia is so rad
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: because it was really the last time when everybody watched
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: the same shows on TV together. Right. You know, like
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: all the albums came out on the Tuesday or like whatever,
• 18:22
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• 19:45
  Speaker 2: Well, we knew when albums were going to be released
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: and everybody got excited about it.
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we knew. Van Halen. Yeah.
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a fun time. It was an interesting time.
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: And it was a time, like, before the internet, you
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: had to find out about stuff from friends.
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: You know? Like, I remember I was headed to a
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: gig with this dude. God, I wish I could remember
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: his last name. But he was really funny. Johnny something.
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: Fuck.
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: I'll remember it eventually. But we were on our way
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: to this comic from Connecticut. We were on our way
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: to a gig together. And he's like, have you heard
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: of the Brand New Heavies? And I go, no. Who
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: are they? He goes, it's a jazz band. And they
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: linked up with a bunch of rappers and made this
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: Heavy Rhyme Experience album. It was fucking incredible. I'm like,
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: I would have never found out about this.
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: That sounds sick.
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: Oh, it's sick, dude. There's one with Gangstar that's great.
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: It's getting hectic. It's fucking great. Because it's like you've
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: got this music that's like this real live band music.
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: Sort of like how that Tiny Desk show does it now.
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: See, I don't even know the Tiny Desk.
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: But you've got like Cool G Rap.
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: Oh, dude, Cool G Rap.
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: That's it. Johnny Rizzo. How did you do that?
• 20:57
  Speaker 4: That's another trick.
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: How the fuck did you do that? Shout out to
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: Johnny Rizzo. Is he around still? He was a funny dude.
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: He had like a rubber face. The dude could make
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: the craziest faces. It was so funny.
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Back to the choking out thing. I think the
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: reason why it was dark and disturbing.
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: Because you guys were twitching.
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the twitching. When you get choked out, you're twitching.
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: That's just waking up.
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: It's a little bit upsetting.
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: That's hilarious. All the shit you guys did that they
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: left in.
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: Well, yeah. And another big problem is that with the
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: choking out, it's particularly imitatable. That's something that we.
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: Got to worry about.
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: If it's something that little kids could pretty easily imitate,
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: then that's more problematic for us. But in that whole experience,
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: Ryan Dunn just came away feeling qualified to start choking
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: people out himself.
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: Oh, no.
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: I don't know that Ryan Dunn had any kind of...
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: combat sports background I kind of doubt it I think
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: it was literally just from this one experience with Gene
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: LaBelle kind of watching it happen having the experience himself
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: he just started choking people out and back then I
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: had a wildly different style of tour but I was
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: on tour nonetheless and Ryan Dunn would be with me
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: on tour he would say to the audience who wants
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: to get on stage and get choked out and even
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: back then I was like out of my mind on
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: drugs And I was like, please don't be doing this.
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: It really, really bothered me. It made me so uncomfortable.
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: I would leave the stage when Ryan Dunn was choking
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: out audience members.
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: Oh, that's so crazy that they signed up for that.
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: Right. And people would be jumping up and down, like, please, please, please.
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: Did he let them down?
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: He didn't drop them? He did let them down.
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: That's very kind of him.
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: But it bothered me so much until the one day
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: when I'd been on cocaine for, like, three days in
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: a row, and I was feeling a little bit self-conscious
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: about how little, like, very intense footage that I had
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: been generating. And I was like, you know what? Today's
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: my day. Ryan Dunn choked me out. And so he
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: did it once, and then he did it again. We
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: spent the whole day. Six times in a row. And
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: each time, it became more Like violent, throwing me down.
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: So that's number two.
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: It seems like he's having fun with your body after
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: it's out. He's sort of just ragdolling you.
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: Dude.
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: Six of them in one day.
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: That's too much.
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: Oh, my God. The last one.
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: I would imagine that rarely happens in training.
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: Usually you tap out.
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah. After this one, I think there's two more. And
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: the last one. is just so upsetting.
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: This one?
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess it's the one where you threw me
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: on my head.
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: Oh, dude.
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like right.
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: I don't want to see. No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I landed right on my face, dude. Fuck, man.
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: Why did you do that?
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: Because.
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: You wanted it to be more exciting?
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: I think that.
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: And the cocaine.
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah. There was cocaine falling out of my nose in
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: the shot because I put it there. Jesus Christ. Jeez, boy.
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: I think that's probably the gnarliest thing. Yeah. But in
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: any case, so.
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: Did you get hurt from that at all? I think
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: I had a broken tooth. Oh, from falling on your face?
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: Did you get hurt at all from the repeated chokings?
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: I don't think so. No? It's pretty amazing, given what
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: I've put myself through. Oh, incredible. Both professionally and personally, that, like,
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: I have good recall. Yeah. You know, pretty.
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: How many times, Johnny told me he's been knocked out
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: unconscious 16 times. How many times do you think?
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: I'm not at that level. I got knocked out in
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: the WWE ring on Monday Night Raw. This was a
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: heavy one, man.
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: Which you hit with?
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: It was an elbow that really put me out.
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: Who hit you?
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: Umaga. His fighter name in the WWE was the Samoan Bulldozer.
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: Bro, Samoan's got some happy bones. You want to get hit.
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: By a Samoan? Yeah. I bet you can bring that
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: one up real easy. Monday Night Raw, Steve-O and Chris Pontius.
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: We were promoting the second Jackass movie. So we're going
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: to get in the ring. We're getting in the ring.
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: We're doing a whole match. And it's fascinating the way
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: that they... kind of block out what the matches are. It's,
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: it's kind of like a jam band, you know, like
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: a jam band that you've got like the kind of
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: tentpole moments and then you just kind of fill it in.
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: But it's like, there's going to, this is going to happen.
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: This is going to happen. This is going to happen. And, um,
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: what was to be the last move, uh, it's called
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: a splash where this 350 pound Samoan bulldozer is going
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: to jump off the top rope. And with me laying
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: on the ground and body slam off the top rope.
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: But what I didn't understand, what I didn't know, is
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: that the match for it to be over, that means
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: the person who lost stops moving.
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: Oh, that's the only way?
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: Well, you're not supposed to move around after that.
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: Oh, you moved around.
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: I moved around.
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: So he put you to sleep.
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he jumped off the top rope and it was
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: such a devastating blow. that I couldn't help but react,
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: you know, I was like, oh, you know, like, whoa, like,
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: and I'm laughing and rolling around, like, I can't even
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: believe it, and he's looking at me like, oh, now
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: I'm disrespecting him, because I'm moving around, so, so he
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: hits me again, and, and I'm confused, because I understood
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: that what just happened was supposed to be the final move,
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: but now he just hit me again, and I'm like,
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: what are you doing, you know, like, But he's like,
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: if I'm going to move around, he's going to keep
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: hitting me.
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: Nobody told you that?
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: Right. And so then he hits me again. And... Right there.
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: This is gnarly.
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we got pretty radical. Yeah, there's a... Okay, this is... Dude,
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: he drops his elbow. They didn't even show the end
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: of the match. They went to commercial... because it was
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: too dark for the WWE to show. See right there,
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: now it's supposed to be over, but I'm moving around.
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: And so now he's kicking me, and I'm like, wait, dude,
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: I think that elbow was what put me out. And
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: they cut to the commercial, I don't remember leaving the ring. Wow.
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that elbow looked pretty fucking hard, dude.
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, right there.
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: But it's also all the other banging of your brain.
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: I mean, this is a lot of banging of your brain.
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: The body slam is a banging of your brain.
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you definitely got a concussion from that one, son.
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: Those dudes get concussions all the time. You don't think
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: about it because you think, oh, it's wrestling. It's pro wrestling.
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: But just the physical contact is unavoidable. Those guys, when
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: Hulk Hogan came in here, man. It was one of
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: the saddest things. I had met him a long time
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: ago in Beverly Hills. I ran into him in front
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: of a cigar bar. I was like, holy shit, he
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: was gigantic. And then I met him the second time. Well,
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: I met him another time when he and I did
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: a Spike TV thing.
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: It was awesome.
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: And then he came in to do the podcast, and
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: he had so many back surgeries that he was like
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: six inches shorter.
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: Oh, wow.
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: It was crazy. It's because they have to fuse all
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: of his discs, and he had a cane everywhere, man.
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: He was fucked up. And he said it was from
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: that thing that he would do where he would drop
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: down on his ass with an elbow. So every time
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: he did that, he fucked his back up. I mean,
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: think about how big he was in his prime. 300-plus pounds, right?
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: So every time you're dropping down, your body's taking the
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: shock on your ass bone of 300-plus pounds flying through
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: the air and bouncing off the ground. So all of
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: his discs got herniated. You had to get them all fused.
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: It was horrible, man.
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: Those guys get fucking busted up.
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: The Rock is like a weird, he's an outlier. Because
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: I don't know what kind of physical issues he has,
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: but he doesn't seem to have any. Like I worked
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: out with him. He's mobile. He could do stuff. He
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: looks amazing. So I don't know how he got through
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: that insane long career and not got busted up.
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. I feel like Stone Cold Steve Austin is
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: in reasonably good shape too.
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know about that one. But
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: I know a lot of those guys, man, they leave
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: that career and, you know, they have fake hips, fake
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: backs fused. Everybody has something wrong.
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I've been pretty lucky. Like for the most part,
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: you know, I've had some hardware in my ankle. I've
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: had hardware in my collarbone. I had meniscus surgery on
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: my knee.
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: That's it for your knees? Just one?
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: Just one. And it was an elective one, too. Like,
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: it was a partially torn meniscus.
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: Why'd you decide to get it snipped?
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: Because I was told that it would be better. I
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: don't know. Like, in the long run, my knee would
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: be better for it.
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I had it done on my left knee. And
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: it was pretty good until a skiing accident a few
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: years ago. And it's been, like, irritating the shit out
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: of me since then. Then I've had a few other
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: little injuries with it. But the thing about it is
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: like that cushion, once it's gone, it's gone. Like it
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: doesn't come back. And that cushion is kind of important.
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: Like my knee always felt a little loose. Like that
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: cushion really goes banging around in there.
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: They do replace meniscus. They use cadaver meniscus. But it's
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: not 100%. It doesn't always work.
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: I think they have to cut the entirety of your
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: meniscus out and put a cadaver one in there and
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: then sew it in place.
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: That recovery from that meniscus surgery was rough.
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: Really?
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: I thought that was one of the easiest ones.
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: For me, man, my knee really hurt for quite a while.
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: Were you doing anything for it? How long ago was this?
• 31:39
  Speaker 4: 2006.
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: Is that what you said?
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: How long was it? The knee surgery? The meniscus was recent.
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: That was 2023.
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: Oh, okay. Well, get on some peptides. That'll probably help it.
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: I was. I was doing peptides. Yeah. Donald Cerrone.
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: Oh, there you go.
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: He got me dialed in with the folks at Transcend.
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: He works with those guys.
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: That's how he got super jacked after he retired.
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: Right. I just travel so much. Right. That like all
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: of these things that need to be refrigerated and you're
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: traveling with the ice pack and it was like.
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: I get it.
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: It's just like kind of too much.
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: You know what a simple solution though is?
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: What's that?
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: Just get yourself one of them little Yeti thermoses. Put
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: some ice in there. Put your peptides in there. Throw
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: it in your bag. Simple. That's it.
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: It keeps it cold. Seals up.
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: I was doing testosterone, too.
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: You stopped?
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: I did.
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: Why'd you stop?
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: I just kept forgetting. I was like, oh. And I didn't...
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't want to say I didn't notice anything.
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: Because there are different things going on in my life
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: that I could have attributed... But, like, having stopped taking it,
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: I don't notice really any difference.
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: Did you get your blood work done before you took it?
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: Well, I did. I got my blood work done by
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: the folks at Transcend.
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: And, you know, they prescribed it to me.
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: What did they say your levels were?
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: I think my testosterone was, like, 300. Oh, that's pretty low.
• 33:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: It's on the low end of normal.
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: There's other stuff you can take, though. There's stuff called, well,
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: you don't need to take peptides. But there's other stuff
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: you could take that could ramp up your natural testosterone.
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: Right. I've been doing more, like, strength training, too, and
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: I know that that.
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: Helps a lot. Yeah, that does it.
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: There's a bunch of different things, like deadlifts and squats.
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: They ramp up your testosterone, especially Zurcher squats.
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: I could certainly get back into all that because, you know,
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: I love the idea of, like, being super healthy and longevity.
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's good for you. Feel better. Feel better. Think better.
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and my baseline is pretty good, too, like, I've
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: got my whoop band. Seeing you with a whoop is
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: kind of hilarious.
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: I'm a little concerned about my health.
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: I love it.
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: Contrary to all my actions for the past 40 plus years.
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: Right. I love it so much.
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: It's great, right? You get so much data.
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: Find out if you're sleeping well.
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: What's your HRV like?
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: I don't know, man. I haven't worn one in a while.
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: Right. It's pretty good. Because today I'm 113 HRV.
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: I don't know if that's good. Is that good?
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: It's super good.
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: Congratulations.
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah. That's awesome. My average is like 90. I don't know.
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: That's great, man. So you're working out. You're feeling good.
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Nice. Taking care of myself.
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: Just avoid those blows to the head, son.
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure.
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: Especially as you get older. It seems like a lot
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: of people, when they get older, they're really hard to
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: recover from.
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: Right. The last Jackass movie we did, the fourth one,
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: Jackass Forever, they had this huge treadmill thing. It's a
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: treadmill for horses. And they got us... They got us
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: just humming. And all of us... A bunch of us,
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: the cast, dressed up in marching band. Like, with marching band. And, like,
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: we're marching, playing our instruments. And one by one, we
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: jump on this treadmill.
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: And it was hilarious. But, dude, I got knocked out
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: so cold. I wonder if you could bring that up, Jamie. Like,
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: I was... Out, out for like a, you know, maybe
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: the longest I've ever been.
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: How did you get knocked out? What happened?
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: I hit my head. You just fell? Yeah, like as
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: I got spit off the end of this treadmill.
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: Oh, Jesus Christ.
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: You just kind of jumped on it?
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: So it looks like Knoxville went first.
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: Oh, my God. Oh, my God, dude.
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: So everyone is awake, and I am super not awake
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: at all.
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: Oh, Knoxville's bleeding from the head? Yeah. You guys are
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: so ridiculous. What a silly way to make a living. Yeah,
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: don't do that anymore.
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that.
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: Oh, boy.
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that might have been my worst concussion. Really? But
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: there's been more than that even. Not 16, but.
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: The one that hurt me the most was Johnny Knoxville
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: when he was in that store and Butterbean beat him up.
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, oh, my God.
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: That was crazy. That one bothered me. Because if you
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: know how hard Butterbean hits, that's just a silly thing
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: to sign up for. Let that guy beat the shit
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: out of you. And then even after he's down, Butterbean
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: had him get back up and put him away. Like,
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: don't let him do that.
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: Especially Butterbean, man. That guy... There's a highlight reel of
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: him putting giant men to sleep. You know, I do
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: not want that guy punched you in the chin.
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: Talk about sweethearts, too, man. What a butter bean.
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, up until that moment.
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: There's a thing with those guys, though. They're so accustomed
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: to hurting people.
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: It's like, you want to sign up for this? You sure?
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: I'm sure. Okay.
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: And they're just going to do to you what they've
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: done to a bunch of other people that decided to
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: box them.
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Man, looking at that trip, that really was gnarly. Gnarly.
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: Not good. I mean, you were flying through the air
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: and landed on your fucking head. Not good, dude.
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: Not good.
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: That's probably why you forget to take your peptides. I
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: read a story about Jim McMahon, the football player.
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: What?
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: That's his name, right? The guy from the Chicago Bears?
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Jim McMahon was the quarterback, right?
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the quarterback. And I think it was a Sports
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: Illustrated article. And they were talking about, like, he can't
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: remember anything. He'll be standing in the middle of his
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: living room not knowing why he's there, where he was going.
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: Doesn't know where his keys are. Doesn't know where his
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: phone is. Just like. can't it's just like like it
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: just blacks out comes back blacks out comes.
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: Back you'd imagine that that would be more for like
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: linemen because every single.
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: Play those days though the quarterbacks got taken out back
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: in those days that's the 80s you gotta think of
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: how much harder the game was but i'm not obviously
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: not a football aficionado or expert by any means but
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: from what i've been told the rules are much more
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: favorable today to protect the quarterback right okay And back then,
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: those dudes got hit. And it's not just that, man.
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: It's also all the different years you played. Those all count. Like,
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: just because you're only getting knocked out a couple of
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: times as a professional in the NFL, what about all
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: the times you got knocked out in high school? What
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: about all the times you got knocked out in college?
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: Those guys, man, I have a massive amount of respect
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: for football players. I mean, I've watched a lot of
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: high school games in Texas, and I've watched a lot
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: of college games at UT. It is a fucking brutal sport.
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's no wonder that's the American pastime. It
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: is a psychotic fucking sport.
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: I love it.
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: It's fun to watch, man. I've become a fan.
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: What really I think was the smartest thing the NFL did,
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: they got into the routine with the NFL YouTube channel.
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: At the conclusion of every game, they upload a video
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: to YouTube of which is a condensed version of the
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: game that runs anywhere from, like, 10 to, you know,
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: like 10 to 15 minutes.
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: So, like, you can watch.
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: Super digestible. More than highlights. Like, more than SportsCenter. But, like,
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: you know, you're only seeing the awesome stuff.
• 39:19
  Speaker 4: Man was involved in Nexus. It was one of the
• 39:21
  Speaker 4: dirtiest plays.
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: In NFL history.
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: Oh!
• 39:23
  Speaker 4: He just got slammed after the play.
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: After the play, slammed on his head.
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: That's crazy. I think this.
• 39:30
  Speaker 4: Took this end of the season, this play. I don't
• 39:33
  Speaker 4: know which game of the year it was.
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: Oh, my God.
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's not cool, man. Yeah.
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: Look at him. Oh, my God. That's crazy that that
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: dude did that. And what did he get, like a
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: one-game penalty or something?
• 39:44
  Speaker 4: Oh, back then, I don't know.
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, back then it was probably pretty mellow.
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: Back then they probably gave him extra steroids.
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: Good job. But I hope this reaches the NFL when
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: I say this, is that as much as, by the
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: end of the season, whatever it was, 2023, 2024, I
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: was so invested because I was watching these digestible YouTube
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: videos that by the time the playoffs rolled around, I
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: was subscribed to every single different platform because now, like,
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: the stakes are so high, I got to watch the
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: whole game. Like, they really converted me.
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: Oh, that's great.
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was the smartest thing I did. That's wise.
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: I mean, because you think about it, there's a lot
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: of downtime in football.
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: In between plays, a lot of this, a lot of that.
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: People talk.
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: The best thing, but I have a really, really important
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: thing that I want the NFL to know is that
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: they were, the thumbnails, a lot of the times gave
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: away the outcome of the game. And this was a
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: problem that the UFC had for a while. I would
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: be doing my shows, especially if I'm in a comedy club.
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: I've got the second show on Saturday night, so I've
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: missed the whole pay-per-view event. Now I get back to
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: my hotel room, and I'm going to watch everything, the
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: whole thing. But then when I go into the video
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: on demand, and the thumbnail shows the video, the winner
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: of the main event, like, celebrating. Right. You know, like,
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: it's like, oh, so I reached out to Dana. I'm like, Dana,
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: the thumbnails are giving away. And he's like, took care
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: of it, man. Just got off the phone with the
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: head of Disney, the president of, you know.
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: That's nice to have that kind of pull.
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: Right. And I wish I could do that for the NFL.
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: They don't always do.
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: Maybe they will. Maybe they will now.
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they don't always give away the game. But for
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: the love of God, please make the thumbnail neutral. Because
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: the reason why we're clicking on this video is because
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: we don't want to know what happened. We want to
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: watch it and enjoy it.
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: Right. And so how long are these condensed games?
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: Anywhere from like 8 to 16 minutes. Wow.
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: That's smart.
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: And it's so exciting because if you see like a
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: punt or a kickoff, you know something awesome is going
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: to happen because they'll never include a punt or a kickoff.
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: unless it gets run all the way down for a
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: touchdown or if there's a turnover or something like that.
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: So it's like, ooh, you get excited when you watch
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: these videos if there's a punt.
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: Right, that makes sense. UFC does a good job with,
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: they do these videos that shows all the knockouts from
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: a particular event. So anybody who just wants to see knockouts.
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: Yep, I've been seeing that. And I've been in situations
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: already since the Paramount deal where I gotta go back
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: and watch the whole card. And Paramount, like, it's pretty awesome, man. Like,
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: on ESPN.
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: It's not very intuitive, I gotta say. It's a little
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: clunky when you're searching for the show. Because you go to, like,
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: live TV to watch it, and then if it's not
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: on live TV anymore, like, if you go out, you
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: pause it, and you come back and try to, and
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: you click on it, it doesn't work, and then you
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: gotta find it, and then you gotta go to home
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: and And then you got to go down to the
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: UFC and then search out each individual. And then it
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: brings you up a grid of all the stuff that's
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: on TV right now. And then if you click on that,
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: it's not playing anymore. So it tells you it's not on.
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: You got to go back again to home. It's like,
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: where the fuck is it? Like, just have a little
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: UFC thing where I could click at the homepage and
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: it shows all the matches, what's live, what's not. Just
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: a little clunky. I think ESPN Plus kind of had
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: it down.
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: And I'm just starting to get— You know what the
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: problem with ESPN Plus was, though? What? Is that you
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: scroll through to get to the main card. They would
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: have each fight individually up there. And you've got to
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: blur your eyes because on the thumbnail it says the
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: duration of the fight.
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: You've got a little time stamp. And it's like, oh,
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: damn it. I just saw that the– You've got to
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: not look at that. Yeah. You've got to unblur your eyes,
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: look through the cracks.
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: The problem is when you play it, it will show
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: you how short the amount of time is, how quickly
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: the time is going.
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: Oh, great. Right. You can't ever skip anything because then
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: the time bar will come up.
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: Do you watch anything else other than UFC?
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: UFC? Sports-wise?
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: No, fighting-wise.
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: Oh, man. No. No? No.
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: I've been trying to get Dana White to do a
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: striking league. Because, like, you know, people still boo and
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: complain when things go to the ground. And if the
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: UFC has time to do, like, slap fight, which I'm
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: not really into. But if they have time to do that,
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: do a stand-up-only league because there's other organizations that are
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: doing that.
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: You know what? The Mike Tyson, Jake Paul thing, I
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: understand that they had 100 million viewers.
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: Is that real?
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: I think they did. And then the Jake Paul, Anthony
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: Joshua had maybe 30 million. So it was nowhere near. But, God,
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: I thought that. I thought that.
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: Where'd you get those numbers?
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: Just whatever. I just saw it on the.
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: Because I don't know if Netflix gives those numbers out.
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: Or maybe they did. Did they say it? 108 million.
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: 108 million. Paul Tyson had 108 million.
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: And then Anthony Joshua, I think it was like 30.
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: Interesting. 108 million is crazy. That's a lot of fucking people.
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: It's a lot of people, but what a blown opportunity.
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: When you think, like, okay, now Netflix had, they knew
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: they were going to have that many viewers.
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: If not that many, they knew they were going to
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: have a lot.
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: They had the opportunity to take the boxing model and
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: fix it. You know? And I don't know.
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: But Netflix did?
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: Netflix has only had a small handful of events, though.
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: Understood. But if you look at the UFC broadcast, just how, like,
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: there's just not downtime. You know, it's like people care
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: about the undercard. I mean, you know me, like I'm there. Yeah.
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: I'm there for the first fight past prelim.
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: Some of the undercards are the best fights.
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: For sure. Yeah. And that's why the contender series is
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: so good.
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: Particularly. Yeah.
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: Exactly. Especially when you see some of these guys coming
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: out of the contender series that are so high level already.
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: There's guys that are getting matched up in the undercard
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: that no one's ever heard of. There are two undefeated
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: fighters that could be world champions.
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: For sure.
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: There's guys that are that good now.
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: Right, and that's what's so great about the UFC is
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: that the whole card's good. The production's insane. There's no downtime.
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: It's just like you can sit there for fucking six
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: hours and be thoroughly happy that you're watching the whole time.
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: But with boxing— There's so much time in between the bouts.
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: Yes. They don't do nearly as good a job. UFC,
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: without doubt, is the best promotion in all of combat sports.
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: 100%.
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: In terms of entertainment, production value, the people in the truck,
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: the experts.
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: Right. 100%.
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: They're the best. They're the best.
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying about Netflix is that they.
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: They could have fixed it.
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: They could have fixed it.
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: Well, Zuf is trying to do that now.
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: And thank God they are. Zuf is trying to do that.
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: They're basically using the promotion machine behind the UFC to
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: start promoting boxing. And they're just getting rolling right now.
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: But they signed some really big guys. They signed Conor Benn.
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: They signed Jai Apatea, who's a fucking beast. They signed
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: some legit boxers. So it should be interesting.
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: Boxing is— It is a fascinating sport.
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: It's a mess. I mean, as far as the broadcast goes.
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: Well, I think there's a few companies that know how
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: to do it right. And HBO was the best. And
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: when HBO went off the air with boxing, it was
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: a real bummer because HBO boxing had been around for decades.
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: They were the peak. That was like the best production team.
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: It was Jim Lampley, Larry Hazard or Larry Merchant rather.
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: Roy Jones Jr. sometimes, George Foreman sometimes, and different fighters
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: would sit in sometimes. And it was the– Jim Lampley
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: is the fucking best. It was the best. It was
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: like the smoothest production. They were the best with the
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: cameras and the production quality. And they'd get you hyped
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: up about the fight with the little pre-made videos. They
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: didn't drag it out. They knew how to do it.
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: HBO did it right. They did it right. But I
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: guess it was like either it was not profitable or something.
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: They just decided to. When they canned HBO Boxing, I
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: couldn't believe it. I was like, after all these years,
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: it's such a crazy thing to do. They were the best.
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: If you had an HBO Boxing card and it was
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: a big fight, fuck, I was pumped. It was like
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: the quality of the product was so high level. And
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: they only put on really great fights. Like if it
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: got to HBO, that was going to be a great
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: fucking fight.
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: Well, comedy specials were the same way, right?
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: Sure.
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And now, you know, now it's weird because it's
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: like the landscape is so filled with different platforms. And
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: some guys take money over visibility. Like there's young guys
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: that have gotten offers for places. And I was like, listen, man,
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: I think you should put it on YouTube.
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: For sure.
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: You're not going to make any money. But you've got
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: to think about that money investing in yourself because I
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: think you're really good. And I think that this material,
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: if you put it on YouTube, it's going to go viral.
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: It will spread around.
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: Way more people will know about you. I– sorely regret
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: my approach because my comedy specials are multimedia and I
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: got stuff in there. The whole point of my comedy
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: with the multimedia is to have stuff that you can't
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: even show on Jackass. Extra naughty Jackass movie collides with
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: the stand-up show. I love that. I have so much
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: fun with that. When I put out my last one
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: I did this thing that Andrew Schultz did, The Moment,
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: you know, like it's a paywall. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: It's this company moment. Right. And that was me trying
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: to make money off this special. I mean, I spent
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: so much making it, you know, but whatever. I wish
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: that I would have had no paywall whatsoever. I can't
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: put it on YouTube, but put it on my website
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: so that I could get the eyeballs because I think
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: in the long run that would benefit way more.
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: Why can't you put it on YouTube? Because of the content?
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: Because... It's too extreme? Nudity, violence, like literally.
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: That's going to be hard to distribute anywhere. Even on
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: a website, even on your website. That's just hard. That's
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: just hard to get out.
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: Now I have my multimedia specials on my website with
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: no paywall, totally free, like no ads.
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: Just go to steveo.com and check it out.
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: Well, Andrew did it very smart. Like if you want
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: to see it now, pay, and then I'm going to
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: put it on YouTube in X amount of months.
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: A lot of people got mad about that.
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: People get mad about everything.
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: Understood.
• 50:42
  Speaker 2: You got to always remember that, man. People get mad
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: about everything.
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: You can't concentrate on that.
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: I think that maybe they're a little bit more of
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: a window because for the people who are like, man,
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: I just spent.
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: Well, tell them what the window is.
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: Just if you want to do it that way, just
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: tell them. I'm going to put it on YouTube in
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: three months.
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: Right. Understood.
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: But it all is like how successful are you, right?
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: So if you're a successful comedian and you do that,
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: then your fans are like, hey, why do you need
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: more money out of me? Why can't you just release it?
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: But if you're a successful comedian that's been kind of
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: banished like Louis C.K. was for a while, and then
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: Louis C.K. has done a brilliant job of putting everything
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: on his website. Like Harold and Pete, his animated show,
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: Lucky Louis, all the different Louis episodes. So what he
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: did was really create his own thing that is like
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: a one-stop shop of all things Louis C.K.
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: 100%.
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: And it's really good.
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: And his mailing list.
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: I'm on his mailing list.
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: Me too.
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: And whenever I see an email from Louis C.K., I
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: absolutely click on it.
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because it's going to be funny.
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: He does it so masterfully.
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's interesting and funny and it's entertaining. It's an
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: entertaining little thing that you get and then he lets
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: you know what he's doing. And he's never pressuring you
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: into it. He's got the perfect balance, I think, of, like,
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: capitalism and still being an artist.
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: You know? It's the way to do it. But, you know,
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: everybody's at their own little path. And the problem with
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: someone like Andrew is he's already, like, really successful. So
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: it's like asking for money for a special. At this point,
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: people are like, come on, man. Just fucking put it
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: on YouTube.
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: My next one, I'm— absolutely determined to have no paywall.
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: Stan Ho Boy said it best. He said basically your
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: special is just an ad to get people to come
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: see you.
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: For sure.
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: Bill Burr said that.
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: That's really what it is.
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: And, you know, it's also like you've got to retire material.
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 52:38
  Speaker 2: You know, just let it go.
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: Oh, it's so hard for me.
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: Let it sail out to sea and light it on fire.
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: It's so hard for me.
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: Of course it is.
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: Of course it is.
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: It's hard for everybody.
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: It's hard for everybody. But it's probably even harder for
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: you because a lot of your stuff is physical. So
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: you have to, like, come up with new things that
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: you could do to yourself. Stable your lip shut and
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: tie your dick to your asshole.
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: I'm so happy with what I've got now.
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: That's good.
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah. All right. I'm thrilled with it. Okay, so.
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: So.
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: I was telling you, like, I spent this, you know,
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: a couple years, like, really.
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: In the darkness.
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: Kind of in the darkness, yeah. And.
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: Being your feelings.
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: Being very mindful of. to adjust my approach in a
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: way that I felt really good about. There was a, um,
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: the beginning of 2025 and I got like really heavy
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: on like, you know, spirituality and faith. I like, I'm
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: that way anyway. Like I really, I really care about that. Um,
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: be January of 2025. I get on, uh, I, I
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: get this opportunity to have Mark Wahlberg on my podcast, right? Like, um,
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: And I'm on there, and he's very big into his faith.
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: Very Catholic, yeah.
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, very big into his Christianity. And I was in
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: the thick of it, too, at that point. I was like, man,
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: you know, like I've been criticism for being too much
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: of a shill and this and that.
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: It really bothered you that much. It kind of did, yeah,
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: because I think because I was— Well, because it was accurate.
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: It was accurate.
• 54:13
  Speaker 3: It absolutely— Right.
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: For example— Last time I was here, I'm like, Joe,
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: my butt wipes for my butthole. And you're like, that's
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: bad for the plumbing.
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: It is bad for the plumbing.
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: You can't flush those things.
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: Dude, what I wish I said in that moment when
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: you said how it's bad for plumbing, I had seen
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: on a package of dude wipes, it said, only flush
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: one at a time and you'll be okay.
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: Uh-uh.
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: Maybe that's true. Now they've got... Did I stop selling
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: those fucking things?
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: Don't flush anything other than toilet paper. Period. Talk to
• 54:48
  Speaker 2: any plumber.
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: I'll tell you. Don't flush anything other than toilet paper.
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: But dude, the internet had a field day when you
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: shut down my butt wipes plug on here.
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: See? I didn't even know about it. Isn't that better?
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: I love that.
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: Isn't that better?
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: I love that.
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  Speaker 1: And they had a field day because, like, me with
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: the shilling and you with the point about the plumbing,
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: and it was just like... And like, fuck, I just,
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: I stopped selling those fucking things. I stopped selling everything.
• 56:31
  Speaker 2: We used to have a sponsor. It's not our sponsor anymore,
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: but I want to tell people to get it anyway.
• 56:35
  Speaker 2: It's a thing called Tushy. You put it on your phone.
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: Oh my God. My dude, every single time I promote
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: Tushy on my podcast, I say it is my favorite
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: podcast sponsor that I've ever had. And I know that
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: that's not a wise thing to say. Like if you're
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: If you think of all the other.
• 56:51
  Speaker 2: Sponsors, I don't care.
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: I don't care.
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: Well, it's not even our sponsor anymore, but I tell everybody.
• 56:58
  Speaker 2: It's not expensive, and it's legit, and it cleans your butthole,
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: and then you just need a little wipe to pat
• 57:02
  Speaker 2: it down.
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: And you're just drying it off.
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: Also, you feel better. You don't feel like you smeared
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: shit all over your butthole. I don't know if you
• 57:10
  Speaker 2: have a hairy asshole, but I do. I'm hairy everywhere.
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: It's chaos down there if I don't trim it. So
• 57:16
  Speaker 2: it's like you're wiping shit on the ass hairs.
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: Sure. And that's, you know, that's like as soon as
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: I started using the Tushy, then I'm like, oh, my God. Now,
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: if I ever find myself having to take a shit
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: and there's not a bidet.
• 57:33
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: Now it's a crisis for me.
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: I know. Now you're like, ew.
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: Now I've got a problem. And that's why having the
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: wet wipes, the butt wipes. It became so important because
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: if I don't have the bidet– I get it.
• 57:48
  Speaker 2: But if you had shit smeared all over your fingernails
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: and your hand, would you be happy just using a
• 57:52
  Speaker 2: butt wipe and then having a sandwich? No, you would not.
• 57:55
  Speaker 2: You would want to wash your fucking hands, right?
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: Well, yeah.
• 57:59
  Speaker 2: Butt wipes are okay. It's okay. It's better than not
• 58:02
  Speaker 2: having them, but you have to throw them in the garbage.
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: So then you have a– shit-smeared wet wipe in the
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: fucking garbage, which is kind of nasty. You walk in there,
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: you can smell the shit, and no one's cleaned it yet.
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: So then you have to have a plastic bag liner
• 58:16
  Speaker 2: on your garbage can. There's no good solution.
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: Those tushy things, I have one. We have them here
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: at all the, it's not a tushy, but it's another company.
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: On all our toilets. We have it at the mothership.
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: Oh, my God.
• 58:28
  Speaker 2: It's the best. You have to have those things. It
• 58:30
  Speaker 2: changes your life.
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: And when you get the tushy Ace, which has the
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: heated seat.
• 58:37
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: The warm water.
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: Warm water's the key.
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: And then it blow dries your butthole. Nice. Nice. It's
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: ready for presentation. Okay, so I sit down with Mark Wahlberg,
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: and I'm talking about this, and I say how leaning
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: into faith really is so important. It's so important to me.
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: And I had this meaningful conversation with Mark Wahlberg about that.
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: And then the day the episode comes out, it didn't
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: even occur to me until the day the episode came out.
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: I was hiking with my dog through a fucking state
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: park in Tennessee and it strikes me, oh my God,
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: I had the audacity. As I knew that the episode
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: went out that day, I had the audacity to cut
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: from this Thoughtful conversation about faith with Mark Wahlberg to
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: an ad for gambling. I was like, oh, my God.
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: I was like, I don't have to be in the
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: comments section to see people saying what a hypocrite. Like, oh,
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: my God. Wait a minute.
• 59:46
  Speaker 2: How does gambling make you a hypocrite?
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: I mean, I just.
• 59:50
  Speaker 2: I don't think that makes you a hypocrite at all. Listen,
• 59:53
  Speaker 2: the gambling thing online, we should probably address this, is
• 59:55
  Speaker 2: a very hot topic. And a lot of people criticize
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: people for promoting gambling sites online. The problem is not gambling.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 2: The problem is people who are addicted to gambling. So
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 2: the problem is self-control. And I'm not saying I'm a
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 2: person who's immune to being addicted to gambling. I am
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 2: sure that given other circumstances in my life, given I
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 2: could have easily gotten addicted to gambling. But I'm not.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 2: And I don't mind gambling on stuff. I think sometimes
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 2: it's probably fun. The problem is people, you saw Uncut Gems, right?
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: Oh, my God.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 3: Best movie ever.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 2: That is gambling. That is the problem with gambling.
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 3: That movie was so good.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 2: Fucking amazing movie. Adam Sandler killed it in that movie.
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 3: It's such a good movie.
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: Never felt so good about it.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 2: But the whole movie, I'm going like, oh, fuck it.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: Don't do that.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 2: What the fuck are you.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: Doing, man?
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 2: Don't do that.
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: Oh, Jesus, Adam. You know what? I made a decision
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: on that day, hiking with my dog. I said, I'm
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: not going to promote anything unless it's good for people. Wow.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 2: Good for you.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: I said, I don't want to do harm, man. Good
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: for you.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 2: I don't think it does harm. I think it does
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 2: harm if you let it do harm, but I think
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 2: food does harm if you let it do harm. I
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 2: think alcohol does harm if you let it do harm.
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 2: I think marijuana, drugs, all kinds of things do harm
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 2: if you let them do harm.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: Right, but it's just in your face.
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 2: I understand.
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: And I don't want to participate in that.
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 2: I get it.
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: And I just haven't done it since then. I feel
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: good about that. That's good. So all these different things
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: that I've done to be mindful, to feel more good
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: about how I approach my life and my career. That's good.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: And then coming into this year, 2026, I was like, oh, man, like.
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: Now with the Mr. Beast coming out, I'm like, oh,
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: this is going to change my life. We got a
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: new jackass movie coming out. I feel really good about
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: how I've restored my integrity. I feel good about myself
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: for myself. And then, Joe, oh my God. Then I
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: have Harland Williams on my podcast. This guy is the most... Genius.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: You can't even understand the guy.
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 2: He's one of the weirdest, funny guys of all time.
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 2: This snake is on this desk because he kept it
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 2: in his pants the entire episode, telling us that he
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 2: had a tapeworm, and then he pulled it out at
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 2: the end of the episode. And I've left it on
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 2: the desk ever since. And when Trump was in here,
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 2: I left it on the desk, and he got so excited.
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 2: He goes, hey, buddy, thanks for keeping— what did he call it?
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 2: Thanks for keeping Dimitri on the desk while Trump was
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 2: in there. He's just such an oddball.
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: He's so magnificent.
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 2: Such a great guy, too.
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: And I record my podcast in an RV, right? I
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: got like three different RVs that I use for it.
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: And one I keep in Los Angeles. So we get
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: to Harlan Williams' house. For some reason, I'm driving. I'm
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: the fucking worst driver ever. And he's got this small driveway,
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: and I'm trying to maneuver it around. And I get
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: out of the van, and I'm like... I don't know
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: how I can be such a fucking bad driver. And
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: just like that, Harlan Williams says to me, he goes,
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: it's AIDS, Devo. You have AIDS. It's just like the
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: most fucking absurd thing. And so going into this podcast,
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: I'm like, all right, now we're entering the realm of
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: the absurd. Let's play with Harlan Williams. At some point
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: in the episode, the most fucking... dumb idea that ever
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: popped in my head. But you wanna be a step
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: ahead and figure out how we're gonna keep this going.
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: Where are we going to next? So I say to
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: Harlan Williams, I think at one point I said, how
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: about politics? Just thinking to myself, this absurd guy, if
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: you ask him about politics, how does his absurdity navigate that?
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: And that's what motivated me. So then, somewhere in this
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: back and forth, like effectively I say like, oh yeah,
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: well all this shit with ice makes perfect sense because like,
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: because the majority of immigrants are murderers, right? This is
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: the most patently fucking absurd comment that I've ever made
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: on the podcast. And yet after it comes out, it
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: gets clipped on its own and It genuinely looks like
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: I'm not kidding. Even though you cut to Harlan Williams.
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: But it genuinely looks like I wasn't fucking kidding. Right.
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: And then I open up my phone and it's like
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: basically rotten hell. You think all immigrants are murderers. Joe,
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: I could not be more the opposite of that. Right.
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 2: You're being sarcastic.
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: I could not have been more like... I could not
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: have been less serious. It was the most absurd fucking
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: deliberately sarcastic thing I'd ever said. And dude, I just
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: like now, and I was in this place. I was
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: so excited. Like, man, I was so excited about doing
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: my podcast. It was going, you know, and then now
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: I'm just like deluged with this tsunami of hate. And
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: that's what, so, you know.
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 2: Did you respond?
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: I did.
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, just say this is just, I posted.
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: On my Instagram.
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: Like for clarification, I said I can't even– I said
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: I was so shocked to believe that this absurd comment
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: that I made was like taken seriously. But like just–
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: I can't believe I'm going to have to do this.
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: But for the record, less than 0.1 percent of the
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: population is ever going to– commit murder. Of course, the
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: majority of no group of fucking people is going to
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: commit murder. But if you want to know how I
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: actually feel, if there's a group of people that's more
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: likely to murder someone, it's ICE agents. You know, like,
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: and so then as soon as I post that, now, like,
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: the whole other half of the world fucking hates me. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I wouldn't have said that either.
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: Right. There you go. You know, like and my sister
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: is my voice of reason. She's like I was like, hey,
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: what do you think about this? And she like made
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 1: like one small tweak. She's like, go for it. I
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: just posted that. I don't even mind. You know, like
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: I don't even mind that. I feel like if people
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: are going to hate me, let them hate me for
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: like how I actually feel, you know. Is that your watch?
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 2: How dare you?
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was my dad. I put my shit on
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: Do Not Disturb.
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 2: Maybe your dad goes through because he's, like, one of
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 2: your favorites.
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's on my speed dial. But, yeah,
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: so it was just a terrible fucking episode that I
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: just went through. And we set this up, like, a
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: couple months ago. Like, this happened, like, maybe three, four
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: weeks ago. So I was, like, when I was texting
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: with you, I was like, oh, man, I was in
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: a– shitty place. I'm feeling really rad, dude. It'd be
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: great to get together. And then now, since then, I'm
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: in a shitty place.
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, obviously that ice subject is a very hot subject.
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 2: People have gotten mad at me for my takes on
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 2: it as well. You just have to speak your mind.
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 2: Say what you really feel.
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 1: If I'm honest, I regret all of it. I could
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: have worded my clarification in a way that made a
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 1: lot more sense. I just, it bothered me so much
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: to be so badly misunderstood. Yeah. You know?
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 2: Well, when you talk sarcastically with a guy like Harlan Williams,
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 2: when you fuck around and you say things you don't
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 2: really mean, that's going to happen. I mean, Duncan is
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 2: the best at that. Like Duncan Trussell, like he will
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 2: have entire podcasts where he pretends he's in the Illuminati
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 2: and he'll talk to another comic who pretends he's one
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 2: of the Rothschilds. Our friend Tony gets– Tony Casillas gets
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 2: on his podcast and what does Tony pretend? A Rockefeller
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 2: or a Rothschild?
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: Rothschild. One of them. Yeah.
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 2: So he– I think it's a Rockefeller. I might be wrong. But,
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 2: I mean, he dyes his hair for the episode and everything.
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 2: It's so ridiculous and people think he really is one
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 2: of those people. Meanwhile, he's a doorman at the mothership.
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 2: But Duncan will go through an entire podcast without breaking character.
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 2: They'll talk about how important it is to control the population.
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 2: They'll talk about how important it is to spread misinformation
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 2: and keep people in the dark and how stupid the
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 2: plebs are.
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm too fucking sensitive, man.
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, it seems like it's not just that you're sensitive.
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 2: It seems like you're seeking out input. You're seeking out feedback.
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 2: And I think you're a little too famous for that.
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 2: I just don't think it's healthy. I've known so many
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 2: people that are loved.
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 1: Loved.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 2: By so many, and yet they'll still find the people
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 2: that hate them and dwell on that. And I've seen
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 2: it with, like, very successful people. It's just Louis said
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 2: it best. Louis C.K. said it best. He said the
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 2: Internet is just talk. It's written down so it seems
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 2: more real. You know, because it stays up there forever.
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 2: But it's just talk, just like people talk at a bar.
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 2: Fuck that guy. You know, people say things and they're
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 2: not necessarily rational. They're not necessarily their opinions aren't necessarily valuable.
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 2: Some of them are and some of them aren't. But
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 2: to go through all that and figure it out. The
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 2: problem is your brain only recognizes threats, danger and people
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 2: that hate you. Right. So you get 100 people that
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 2: love you. One person who says you fucking suck. And
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 2: you'll just think about that guy.
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 4: Oh, no.
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 2: That guy, he used to be a fan.
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 2: I unfollowed him a long time ago.
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 1: Right. Yeah, that makes sense. And you know another thing
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: to that point. Here, I thought that when this Mr.
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 1: Beast video came out and I won a million dollars,
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 1: I gave it to Doctors Without Borders. I just thought, oh, man,
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 1: this is going to be life-altering. And it came in.
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 1: I had one kid come up to me in an
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 1: airport and.
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 2: Say, dude, you're Steve-O from Mr.
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: Beast. And I was like, oh, wow.
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 2: Different generation.
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 1: But other than that, I thought it would be life-altering,
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 1: and it really wasn't. Yeah. Yeah. And then, so now, like,
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: in this little, like, this, whatever you want to call it, backlash, this, like, thing. Like,
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: to me, it feels like the whole world hates me,
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 1: you know? Like, when in reality, it's probably not.
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 2: No. Reality, everybody feels about you the exact same way
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 2: they did before.
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: It's crazy, man. It's crazy because like I'm– like I'll
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: walk around and think like, man, like people are looking
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 1: at me and maybe they hate me.
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 2: I was talking to a friend of mine who was
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 2: one of the earlier ones to get canceled. This was
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 2: quite a few years ago. This was like more than
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 2: 10 years ago. Something happened online and someone said something
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 2: about– something that he said that was patently false. But
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 2: a lot of people believed it and he was– made
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 2: his own statement, but then he said, everywhere I go,
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 2: he goes, I know this was small and it was
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 2: only in the comedy community, but everywhere I went, I
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 2: felt like these people hated me. They knew who they
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 2: were and they were judging me. So it was like,
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 2: it was tainting my feelings everywhere I went.
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 2: Now imagine being Monica Lewinsky.
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 1: Oh my God, I know.
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 2: Okay, so no internet, right?
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 2: So this is like, there's no way to tell whether
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 2: people are siding with you or not. And everybody knows
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 2: you suck the president's dick and you're 20. And you
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 2: have to go to the store. You have to date guys.
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 2: And if you don't blow a guy, he's like, what
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 2: the fuck? You're like famous for it.
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Every time she's probably giving head, she's thinking, oh,
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 2: my God, why am I doing this? This is what
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 2: got me in all this trouble in the first place.
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 2: I can imagine that kind of weirdness. Do you remember
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 2: she did an HBO thing? She did an HBO thing way,
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 2: way back in the day where she sat down to
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 2: talk about what this experience has been like for her.
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 2: And it was weird because there was a guy in
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 2: the audience that like she was like taking questions, I guess.
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 2: And the guy in the audience was like, why are
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 2: you doing this? You say you don't want attention, but
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 2: here you are just getting more attention talking about it.
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 2: And like you could tell she didn't really think that through,
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 2: like that someone was going to have that kind of
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 2: a response. And it was like that was the end
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 2: of the thing.
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 1: I think that, like, you know, when you're in that
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 1: kind of a situation, you want to, on some level, clarify. Right. Like,
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 1: you know, you want to say.
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 2: Your side of it.
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 2: But your side of it, ultimately, for most people, is
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 2: going to be trying to make yourself look better.
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 1: Right? Yeah.
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 2: And I think that's a problem. Yeah. That's a problem.
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 2: Because that's very transparent.
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 2: And people kind of know what you're doing. I think
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 2: it's always better like what you just did where you said, like,
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 2: maybe I did overreact. Maybe I shouldn't have done this.
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 2: Maybe that's a stupid thing to say. Like, be much
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 2: more real about how you feel about things.
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 1: Oh, I fucking blew it, Joe.
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 2: I know, but it doesn't matter, man. I'm telling you.
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 2: This is all in your head. Everybody still loves you.
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 2: You're the same guy. The people who love you will
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 2: always love you. The people who hate you. It's like
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 2: it's very rare that someone who really loves you hates you.
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 2: If they do, they're usually mentally ill and they want to.
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 2: I remember when I was a kid, people would get
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 2: mad if bands became famous. They'd be like, fuck those guys.
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 2: They're sellouts. And I remember we were in high school.
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 2: I go, let me get this trade. This is me
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 2: at like 16. I go, you love them. You think
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 2: they're awesome, right? Yeah. I go, but when more people
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 2: know they're awesome, then they're not awesome anymore because now
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 2: they're mainstream. He goes, yeah. I go, do you know
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 2: how fucking dumb that sounds? Either they are awesome or
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 2: they are not. If they are awesome, more people should
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 2: know they are awesome. And we're all just sitting around
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 2: and a couple of my friends go, yeah. Like, yeah.
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 2: This idea of like being underground is fucking retarded. Like,
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 2: why would you want that? If you're great, people are
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 2: going to find out about you.
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 2: It doesn't mean you sold out. It just means other
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 2: people found out you were great. Like you recognize something
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 2: and you think you're unique in your talent to recognize
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 2: really good music and only you can appreciate it. And
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 2: if other people appreciate it, then all of a sudden
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 2: it's not good. That is the dumbest fucking way to
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 2: think I've ever encountered in my life.
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 1: I mean, it, To be fair, I think that the
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 1: criticism at that point is when— They change. When they're
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 1: trying to reach a more broad audience.
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 2: But there's a lot of bands, for instance, that are
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 2: not doing that. They just fucking hit. People are mad
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 2: at Nirvana for getting big.
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 2: Like, okay.
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 1: I couldn't agree with you more. I'm just being a
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 1: devil's advocate.
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 2: Well, I get it. But my point is it's a
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 2: human inclination. Or you feel like you're part of a
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 2: small select group that really values and appreciates something. And
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 2: all these normies, these fuckheads listening to fucking Debbie Gibson
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 2: or whoever they're listening to. You don't want those assholes
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 2: listening to super cool music. But if it's like Nirvana,
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 2: guess what? It's so good that everyone is going to
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 2: want to listen to that. And then it becomes big.
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 2: You're like, fuck those guys. They're fucking sold out.
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 2: It's just a dump. You're just mad at yourself. You're
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 2: mad at your life. You're mad at your position in
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 2: this universe.
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 1: Well, I think that life is just getting really difficult, too.
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 2: Well, this is now true.
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 2: But we're talking about people were doing this back in
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 2: the fucking 80s. They've always done this, man.
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 2: This is just how people behave. And you add that
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 2: to the Internet and it just everything's accelerated. Right. Times 10,
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 2: times 100, times a million, whatever the fuck it is now.
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 2: And this is just the beginning. We're at the brink
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 2: of something really crazy. As soon as AI takes over
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 2: our society, which is like within years, we're going to
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 2: experience the most radical change this civilization has ever experienced.
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 1: It's literally a perfect storm with just the unsustainable debt.
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 2: Well, that's part of it.
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's a big part of it.
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, that's part of it. But it's like
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 2: even if there was unsustainable debt, you have an artificial
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 2: life form that's emerging that's infinitely smarter than human beings.
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 1: What I'm saying is that— And has autonomy. That the
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 1: unsustainable debt, like already over a trillion dollars just paying
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 1: for the interest alone.
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 1: Like there's all that now like, you know, other nations,
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 1: central banks, whatever, like They want to de-dollarize. They're not
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 1: buying the United States treasuries the way they were. And
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 1: that's like how the United States has been able to
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 1: overspend is because they can sell the treasuries. Now without
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 1: people selling the treasuries, the only buyer of the treasuries
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 1: is the Fed. And they're buying the treasuries with printing money.
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 2: Is that accurate? I think it's pretty clear. Other countries
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 2: aren't buying our treasuries anymore?
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 1: Less so. It's becoming less. Of course, there's still like
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 1: the United States treasuries is the most liquid, but less so.
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 1: So when it becomes more difficult for the United States
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 1: to sell its treasuries, they got to increase the yield,
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 1: which means bigger interest payments. So at a certain point,
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 1: it's like just paying the interest on the debt is
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 1: like a crippling thing. And- by the Fed printing money
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 1: the way they're printing. You can't inflate the money supply
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 1: without devaluing the dollar. So inflation more and more is
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 1: going to be a thing. Maybe not Weimar Germany or
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 1: Zimbabwe inflation, but still, inflation is not going to go away.
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 1: You just can't have the money supply increase without that
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 1: being the case. And so people's purchasing power goes down.
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 1: Their wages aren't going up so like people are getting
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 1: more and more squeezed with how much money they can
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 1: afford to spend and then on top of that AI
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 1: comes and wipes out all.
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 2: Their jobs yeah it's spooky it's spooky because no one
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 2: really knows exactly what's going to happen you know or
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 2: how it's going to happen or how people will be
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 2: compensated in order to keep society functional you know Elon
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 2: has this utopian vision of universal high income Yeah.
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 1: UBI, universal basic income.
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 2: No, no, no. Universal high income. No, his utopian vision
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 2: is that so much money will be generated from AI
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 2: that you'll be able to give people universal high income.
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 2: So they won't have to work. And so they'll be
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 2: able to do whatever they want to do with their life.
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 2: That's the ideal perspective. The problem is, obviously, that people
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 2: find a lot of identity in their work.
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 1: Sure.
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 2: Especially if you went to school for it, you love it.
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 2: This is the thing you've done. You've been a lawyer
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 2: your whole life. You've been a doctor your whole life.
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 2: You've been a this your whole life. And then all
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 2: of a sudden, AI comes in and wipes that out.
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 2: And like, what are you going to do? You're going
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 2: to play golf all day?
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 2: And then you have a fixed income now. Because even
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 2: if it's universal high income, there's no incentive for you
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 2: to work harder and get more things done and make
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 2: more money, which is what drives a lot of people
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 2: and drives a lot of innovation. So then is all
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 2: innovation left up to artificial intelligence? Is that what we're
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 2: really going to do? Because that seems kind of crazy.
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 1: It's so crazy. I wonder, like, what keeps you going?
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 1: I mean, like, you're in here doing these podcasts all
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 1: the time with the UFC with, like, you know, like.
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 1: You don't have to be doing this.
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 2: Everything I do is fun. I love it. I do
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 2: everything I do for free. And I do all the time.
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 2: I do stand-up for free all the time. I do
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 2: guest spots all the time. Everybody does. Every comic does.
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 1: Oh, my God. Did I have so much fucking fun
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 1: at Kill Tony last night.
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 2: Oh, it's the best show. It's the best show on earth.
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 1: He is so unbelievably talented.
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 2: He's the best host of any live comedy show, rather,
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 2: of all time.
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 1: There's no way.
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 2: He's so good at it.
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 1: Like the.
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 1: The amount of time when something is presented that he
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 1: nails the funniest possible thing that you could react.
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like it's written. Like you had a team of
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 2: writers sitting there for a week coming up with the
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 2: best line, and it busts off the top of his head,
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 2: and it's always mean. He's the best.
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 1: Okay. He's the best. I know that he's sensitive about it. Oh, man,
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 1: he wouldn't have wanted me to say I was on
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 1: it last night. Why?
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 2: Why?
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 1: Because before the show, he'd ask the audience, don't give
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 1: away the secret of who's the guest. It doesn't matter.
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 1: All right. Then I'll say one thing because it was
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 1: so funny.
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 2: Don't say what happened because this show is going to
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 2: come out before that happens.
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 4: Right, right.
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 2: Don't do that.
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 1: I'll tell you. It's just, suffice it to say that
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 1: Tony Hinchcliffe has got to be the fastest, wittiest fucking
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 1: comic I've ever seen.
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 2: Well, he's the best at that format. And he created it, right?
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 2: So it's like a genius idea. Have comics do one minute. Dude,
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 2: comics have done one minute the first time they've ever
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 2: been on stage at Madison Square Garden in front of 16,000
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 2: people and fucking ate dick.
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 2: It's a great show. And then he has, you know,
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 2: guys like Dave Attell, Shane Gillish, you, fucking Harlan is
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 2: like one of the greatest guests of all time.
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 1: Donnell.
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 2: Donnell's amazing. He's got, I mean, there's just so many.
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 1: Right. And like.
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 2: Kyle Dunnigan, who does like five different characters that are incredible.
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Such high level comics. Uh-huh.
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 2: Adam Ray.
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 1: I mean, maybe. Well, right. But I'm saying like high
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 1: level feature comics. You know, who aren't, like, super known.
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 2: Who do one minute as well. They're so good.
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 1: They're seeking out to go. I brought my opener from tour.
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 1: A guy who's not, like, widely known, but I just
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 1: love him. And he's so funny. He's so good. And
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 1: he put his name in the barrel? Put his name
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 1: in the barrel.
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 2: That's the thing, too. If people are asking me to
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 2: get them on Kill Tony, I cannot. No one can.
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 2: That is true. That barrel is legit. That barrel is legit.
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 2: You reach into that barrel. Tony grabs whatever piece of
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 2: paper his hands touch, and he pulls it out, and
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 2: that's how it's always been done, and that's how he's
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 2: always going to do it. Because people come to him
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 2: all the time. Hey, could you get my friend on
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 2: the show? He's like, I cannot do that. That is
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 2: the show.
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 1: Thank God.
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 2: It's got to be chance.
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 3: It's got to be chaos.
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 2: That's part of the fun of it.
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 2: And then every now and then, someone that you've never
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 2: heard of comes up and does a minute, and everybody goes,
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 2: fuck yeah, that was awesome.
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 2: And they kill it, and all of a sudden they
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 2: have a career.
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 1: Right. It's great. Okay.
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 2: It's the cornerstone of stand-up, too. It really is. Because
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 2: it's wild. It's like there are no rules. It's no
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 2: holds barred. And you've got great comics on the panel.
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 2: And it has launched careers.
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 1: For sure.
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 2: So because of that, it is so important for us
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 2: having Kill Tony at the club. It's so important because—
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 2: It sets the tone for all these comics to know like, hey,
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 2: this isn't just like some random thing of I don't
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 2: know what I'm doing, how do I figure it out,
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 2: how do I get seen? There's a pathway. And if
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 2: you can get on Kill Tony and if you can
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 2: work your ass off before then and build up a
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 2: real solid routine and go on there and kill it,
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 2: you can have a fucking career. It's real. And then
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 2: the club has two nights of open mic nights and
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 2: there's a real development program and the real talent coordinator,
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 2: Adam Egan, who watches sets and gives you feedback.
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 1: The opener that I'm talking about, and he drove all
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 1: the way from Tampa to be there last night. His
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 1: name's Chris Harvey. I love it. He's 6'4, 480 pounds,
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 1: like missing tooth, beard, funniest guy.
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 2: Where's he from?
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 1: He's from Ohio. Is it Dayton? I'm not sure where
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 1: or not. But I was at a comedy club in
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 1: Fort Wayne, Indiana. And they just set him up to
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 1: open for me. I watched his set. I was like,
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 1: what are you doing for the next three weeks?
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 2: Oh, that's awesome.
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 2: That's awesome. So did he get up on the open
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 2: mic night?
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah. That's why I texted Tony, like, hey, I've got
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 1: this opener. Can I get him on? And Tony said,
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 1: I can get him in the bucket. Who knows if
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 1: I'll pull him out. But I can also get him
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 1: on the open mic to perform for the Booker. So
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 1: he did that. Nice.
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 2: Nice.
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 2: It's important that you can't just get on the show.
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 2: Because then his phone would be just overrun with people,
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 2: get my boy on, and then some of them suck.
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 1: That makes perfect sense.
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you have to just let it happen. If they suck,
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 2: they suck. If they don't, you know, it's like anything
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 2: can happen. And that's part of the beauty of it.
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 2: It's like a real magical moment when you reach into
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 2: that bucket and you pull out a name and Bob Smith.
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 2: And then Bob Smith comes on out.
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 1: And gives it a shot. I mean, dude, I just
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 1: had so much fun, man.
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 2: I don't like being on the end. Because you're too
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 2: close to these psychos. You never know. Like, I'm always
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 2: on edge.
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 1: That's funny.
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 2: You want to be, like, protected by, like, one body.
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 1: Apologies to Tony for giving away that I was on
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 1: it last night.
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 2: He's not going to care.
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 1: You know what I want to talk about? I watched
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 1: Brian Callen's special, very recent, at the Mothership. Like, it was, like,
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 1: you got all these people, like, you know, whenever anybody put,
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 1: that's the thing about, fucking comedy is it's so subjective
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 1: that like it's just if anybody can shit on a
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 1: special if they want and i saw these like the
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 1: youtube videos like oh brian callens this is the most
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 1: worst bomb is gonna like end his career and i
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 1: was like come on like let me i was like
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 1: let me watch this i fucking enjoyed the hell out
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 1: of brian callens special is uh one that he just
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 1: taped at the mothership That's great.
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 2: You got to stop paying attention to people.
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I enjoy.
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 2: Because people want it to suck. Like, there's people that
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 2: think everything... They think Chappelle's last special sucked. Oh, my God.
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 1: Can we talk about that?
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 2: I haven't seen it yet, so... Okay, the... But I
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 2: heard it was awesome for people that I trust.
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 1: The Riyadh Comedy Festival, right? Like, it was such, like,
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 1: an apocalyptic fucking nuclear bomb in the world. Did you
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 1: go to that? I didn't, no. But, like, there was
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 1: so much backlash from people who went to it. And
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 1: there were, like, individual comics had their.
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 1: Their own way of kind of defending their move to,
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 1: you know, a lot of comics were very defensive about
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 1: how they went and, and a lot of them, and
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 1: maybe like were seemed a little bit disingenuous about like
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 1: about in their defense. And then dude, Dave Chappelle puts
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 1: out this special and so unapologetic about him being at
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 1: the Riyadh comedy. It was just like, he, It was
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 1: so fucking masterful.
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 2: He's a master.
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 1: The way he was just like, oh, like I went
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 1: to Riyadh and got paid like a fuck ton of
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 1: money to do comedy and like so unapologetic. And it
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 1: was just like, oh, my God.
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 2: Well, the idea is that you support the regime by
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 2: doing stand up over there, which I think is crazy
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 2: because you're doing it for the audience members and the
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 2: audience members have no say in who their government is.
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 2: They're literally a monarchy.
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 1: I'm not even I don't even have a judgment whatsoever,
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 1: especially because. Have I ever not watched a UFC event
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 1: because it happened in Saudi Arabia?
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 2: Or Dubai or wherever. You don't do that with sporting events,
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 2: but you do it with comedy. I think the idea
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 2: is that comedians are supposed to be social commentators. They're
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 2: supposed to carry a baton for free speech. And one
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 2: of the particularly egregious things that's been attributed to Saudi
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 2: Arabia was the murder of Jamal Khashoggi, who was a
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 2: journalist from The Washington Post. Who was killed at the
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 2: Turkish embassy and they cut him up with a fucking
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 2: bone saw and some dark shit. Yeah, I get it.
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 2: I get the criticism and I get people saying, well,
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 2: I'm going to perform for my audience and my audience
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 2: is over there. And if they say I can't make
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 2: fun of– I think you can't make fun of the monarchy.
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 2: You can't make fun of the leaders or the government
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 2: and you can't make fun of Islam. Or religion. I
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 2: think maybe it might just be religion, period.
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you can't be disparaging of Islam or
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 1: the royal family. Yeah.
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 2: All right, well, you've got to decide then if you
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 2: know what those parameters are. Maybe it doesn't fit with
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 2: your act at all, or maybe you're like, I don't
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 2: have any bits about the royal family, or I could
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 2: just go over and do my act for a bunch
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 2: of people uncensored.
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 1: Right. I mean, I thought about it.
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 2: I see both sides.
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 1: I don't give a shit one way or the other.
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 1: way or the other. My only input here is that
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 1: Dave Chappelle like checkmated. Of course.
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 2: He handles everything perfectly. And again, he's not on social media.
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 2: He's not paying attention to people's opinions of him. You
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 2: cannot because there's so many people that have decided that
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 2: he was a horrible transphobe. For telling a story about
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 2: his transgender friend. Like, I mean, literally told this story
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 2: about this person in his act. And people didn't care
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 2: because he made jokes about trans people. Like, of course,
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 2: it's in the public eye. This idea that you can't
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 2: joke about something is if there's a thing you can't
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 2: joke about, that thing is fucked up. And that's why
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 2: the Lakota used to have like a sacred clown. They
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 2: called it a Heyoka. And a Heyoka was like a
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 2: member of the community that was supposed to make fun
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 2: of everything. And if you couldn't make fun of anything,
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 2: then you knew something was wrong with that thing. Because
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 2: if there's a thing that you can't joke around about,
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 2: that thing has been compromised. Because you can kind of
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 2: joke around about everything if it's actually funny, no matter
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 2: what it is.
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 1: Sure.
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 2: Even tragedy given enough time, you can joke around about it.
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 2: I mean, you could do a 9-11 joke right now
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 2: and no one's going to blink.
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 1: Oh, my God. You remind me of what I think
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 1: was the funniest fucking tweet that I ever saw from
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 1: Jeff Ross. The year, I want to say, was like 2016.
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 1: The Magic Castle in Los Angeles. There was... The magicians...
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 1: A magician was found hanging in a closet in the
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 1: Magic Castle.
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he committed suicide.
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 1: Had taken his own life. Yeah. That morning... Jeff Ross
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 1: tweeted that his last words were abracadabra. That's fucking funny.
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 2: That's such a Jeff Ross type joke. That's a Tony
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 2: Hinchcliffe type joke too.
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 1: Abracadabra.
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, if there's a thing that you can't
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 2: make fun of, that thing is usually bullshit. And if
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 2: that thing is trans people, then you are ignoring that
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 2: there's a glaring hole in this narrative that you're trying
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 2: to push and whether or not people are accepting that narrative?
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 1: You know, I'll be spilling out some of the stuff
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 1: that I have in my current hour, and I really
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 1: don't mind. For me, I feel like the bar's got
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 1: to keep getting higher and keep getting higher. So as
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 1: I went into putting together this new hour that I'm
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 1: touring with, one of my multimedia bits ended up not
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 1: being a really great idea, but I thought, I'm going
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 1: to get a fucking boob job.
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, I heard about that.
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 2: Did you do it?
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 1: I didn't. I was within 10 hours of being under
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 1: the knife. And, like, the universe just intervened, right?
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 2: Because they have to cut your muscle, man.
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 1: Right. Well, like, I mean, you know the.
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 2: Don't they? Or do they go under the skin? They
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 2: go through your nipples?
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 1: You can do it in multiple different ways. I was told...
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 1: I was interested in just the idea... Because... like I, I, I'm,
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 1: I'm now in my fifties. Right. And so like my
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 1: whole new hour is, is the theme of it is
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 1: how the fuck is Steve-O supposed to be in his fifties,
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 1: you know? Like, and so with the putting the stuff
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 1: up my butt section is like the importance of like,
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 1: we're at an age, we got to get prostate exams, colonoscopies,
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 1: you know, that's a real thing. And so I'm trying
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 1: to like destigmatize the prostate exam. Right. I'm sure you are. Right.
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 2: You're definitely not putting things up your ass for entertainment.
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 1: I'm, I'm, I'm blending it together and it's pretty awesome. And, uh,
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 1: you know, one of my things is like, um, you know,
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 1: it's a rite of passage for men in middle age to,
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 1: to one day you realize, holy fuck, I'm getting tits,
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 1: you know, like, like, uh, I, I, I noticed it
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 1: one time. I'm like, I'm fucking, I got dimples, you know,
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 1: like actual fucking under boob over here. And it's fucking like,
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 1: this wasn't supposed to happen to me. And so like
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 1: that kind of was my motivation. I'm like, if this
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 1: is going to happen, then like I'm lashing out at
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 1: father time. I'm going to get a boob job. So
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 1: I had the guy, famous plastic surgeon from Botched, Terry Dubrow.
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 1: On my podcast.
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 2: Is he one of those guys that fixes people?
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Botch. He's great. I love that guy. Happened to
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 1: be brothers with the lead singer of Quiet Riot, too.
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 2: No way.
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 1: Come on, feel the noise. Terry DeBrome.
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 2: That's crazy.
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 1: He was epic. So on the podcast, I was like, hey,
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 1: I'm thinking about a wild, crazy stunt. Like get a
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 1: boob job and then just like film a bunch of
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 1: pranks and stunts and then get it out. You know,
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 1: like wild publicity stunt. I feel like the whole world's
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 1: going to know about it. And he had me take
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 1: off my shirt and he's like, yeah, your skin is
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 1: already loose enough. You could fit double D implants. He says,
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 1: but you got to get them out. Within two months
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 1: or the stretching would be unmanageable.
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 2: Oh, boy.
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 1: And in my head, I'm thinking this is the loudest
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 1: fucking craziest– like this is where the bar is at.
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 2: You need better friends.
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 3: You really do.
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 1: The level of commitment to do something that fucked up. Like,
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 1: I just thought, and I was really into the idea,
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 1: and I got super close.
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 2: Call me next time. Just fucking call me, dude.
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 1: Dana said the same thing.
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, don't do that.
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 1: Dana said the same thing. So now, like, I had
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 1: blabbed it to the media, which is why you'd heard
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 1: about it. So, you know, there are all these articles.
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 1: It's the night before my fucking operation, and I get
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 1: a phone call, like, from the... the doctors whatever guy
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 1: says hey buddy we hit a snag man like uh
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 1: the anesthesiologist backed out you know we gotta reschedule the
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 1: surgery I'm like fuck man so now the next day
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 1: they're trying to reschedule it and I'm I'm uh buying
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 1: groceries in the supermarket in LA and the the person
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 1: ringing me up on the cash register is uh like
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 1: seems pretty evidently transgender and I'm just like dude it's
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 1: like uh the fucking universe is giving me signs over here,
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 1: you know? And so I asked this. Didn't even occur
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 1: to me up to this point that I'm going to,
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 1: that I need to run it by anybody because I'm like,
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 1: fuck it. My body, my choice. Who cares? I'm doing
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 1: a dumb stunt to be crazy. But in this situation,
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 1: talking to this transgender person, I'm like, hey, can I
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 1: run something by you? And I spoke with them. They
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 1: described to me a level of oppression that, That genuinely
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 1: fucking broke my heart. They said, hey, let me tell you. Like,
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 1: I am not allowed to use the bathroom at my
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 1: own place of work. We've got, like, politics.
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 2: That's not true. They're just not allowed to use the bathroom.
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 2: It doesn't align with their biological sex.
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 2: But you've got to realize, they're not all, listen, I
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 2: genuinely think there's people that feel like they are in
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 2: the wrong biological sex.
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 1: Sure. Right?
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 2: But there's also people that are fucking perverts. And they
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 2: have a thing called autogynephilia. And what that is is
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 2: they get a turn on by pretending to be a woman.
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 2: They get excited by it. And they want to be
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 2: around women. And they're creeps. And so you give them
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 2: a fucking Willy Wonka golden ticket to go into the
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 2: women's locker room and the women's bathroom and stare at
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 2: women and pretend you're a woman when you're just a
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 2: crazy man. And you're actually into women.
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 2: That's real too, man.
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 1: I don't doubt that that's real. And I know that
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 1: it's a super complex, nuanced thing.
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 2: And I don't... Yeah, but here's what's not complex. What
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 2: is your chromosomes?
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 2: Okay? This is the same thing for competing. All these
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 2: fucking mental gymnastics that seemingly intelligent people do to justify
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 2: biological males competing with females.
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 1: I don't think anybody's already done that.
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 2: It's the same thing. Right. It's the same thing.
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 2: And especially speaking as a man who has daughters, like...
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 2: There are creeps. And if you give a creep, and
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 2: I'm not saying all trans people are creeps, but a
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 2: lot of these fucking people that are in trouble for
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 2: going into women's bathrooms dressed as a woman with a
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 2: fucking beard and a heart on are just that. They're creeps.
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 2: They're crazy men. And these crazy men, their entire life,
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 2: they would get beaten up for that. And now all
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 2: of a sudden, they have to be accepted. So you've
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 2: got two things going on at the same time.
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 1: For sure.
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 2: You've got people with gender dysphoria that genuinely wish they
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 2: were a woman or genuinely wish they were a man.
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 2: And by the way, it's men that are the problem.
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 2: No one gives a fuck about trans men going into
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 2: the men's bathroom. Come on in. Who cares? Who cares? Oh,
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 2: a girl's going to shit next to you? Or what
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 2: is she gonna do? She's gonna pee out of a funnel?
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 2: What is she gonna do? Like no one's gonna get hurt.
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 2: No one's gonna get hurt. This is the problem. When
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 2: you allow perverts to have this hall pass to go
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 2: into women's locker rooms and bathrooms. So you can't say
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 2: you're not allowed to use the bathroom where you work.
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 2: That's not true. You're just not allowed to use the
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 2: women's room where other women are in there because you're
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 2: not a woman. And I know you wish you were
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 2: a woman or whatever's going on. Okay. But you're not.
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 1: You make a very, very good point.
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 2: If you're a woman, talk to most women about this. Right.
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 2: Unless they're insanely captured by this woke ideology where they
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 2: can't see reality in the fact that perverts are still
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 2: a real fucking thing Yeah, and this this loophole you've
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 2: given loopholes like there's men in prison I think it's
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 2: like 47 biological males in California are housed in women's
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 2: prisons some of them are sex offenders and Some of
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 2: them in Canada, there's a guy in Canada that they
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 2: had to pay for his boob job while he was
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 2: in jail for being a sex offender and they put
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 2: him in a women's prison.
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 1: I'm not arguing with that.
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 2: There's men who have pretended to be women, gone into
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 2: women's prison, had sex with women and impregnated them. There's
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 2: men who have sexually assaulted and raped women in prison
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 2: that are pretending to be women with functional dicks. All
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 2: they have to do is identify air quotes when you
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 2: just have to identify. That's it. No operation. No nothing. Identify.
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 2: That is bonkers. And do you think they're giving them
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 2: estrogen when they get in prison? Do they give hormone
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 2: replacement therapy to people in prison? I don't know. I
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 2: don't know. But even then, it's still a man with estrogen.
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 2: You can't escape your fucking chromosomes, okay? And until you can,
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 2: until there's some sort of a crisper thing that you
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 2: really want to be a woman, we can turn you
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 2: into an actual woman. Until that happens, what you're dealing
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 2: with is a form of gender dysphoria, which has always
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 2: been classified as a mental illness. Until people became much
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 2: more empathetic and sensitive to people that have this problem.
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 1: Right. And you make a completely valid argument that.
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 2: Um, nobody should be able to tell you, you can't
• 1:39:59
  Speaker 2: do something fucking stupid, like get a boob job because
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 2: they are transgender. That's crazy.
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 1: Understood. My experience was that, um, I didn't get any
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 1: of this, like, you know, since this is a creepy pervert,
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 1: anything like that.
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 2: Um, I just thought they don't have to be a
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 2: creepy pervert.
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 1: Right. Right.
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 2: But it's still a man.
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 1: I understood. I just thought, man, um, I heard what
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 1: they had to say about politicians trying to put them
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 1: in internment camps.
• 1:40:34
  Speaker 2: Who's doing that? What politicians are saying they should be put.
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 1: In internment camps? I think that there was some kind
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 1: of a.
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 2: There might be one kook out there that's saying that
• 1:40:42
  Speaker 2: to try to get attention. There's no movement to try
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 2: to put transgender people in internment camps.
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 1: Okay. Well, then I'll land on this.
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 2: Do you know who's killed more people than ICE this year?
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 3: Trans shooters.
• 1:40:53
  Speaker 2: Trans shooters. Do you know the majority of these high
• 1:40:56
  Speaker 2: school shootings have been transgender people?
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 1: I did not know that. Yeah.
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 2: How many of them? There was one recently. And yeah,
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 2: it's a lot of them. You know why? Because they're
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 2: giving them psych medications. They're giving them a bunch of
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 2: crazy hormones. And a lot of them probably have mental
• 1:41:13
  Speaker 2: struggles already. And they're ostracized from society and fill in
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 2: the blank. And then they're empowered by thinking that the
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 2: world has done something bad to them. And that there's
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 2: like a genocide against trans people and they attack JK
• 1:41:29
  Speaker 2: Rowling and they attack all these people. Martina Navratilova, who's
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 2: like a famous lesbian for being a bigot because she
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 2: doesn't want biological men competing with women in tennis. It's nuts, man.
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 2: And it's like either you go by biology or you
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 2: do not. Either you go by biology. XY chromosome, or
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 2: then you're in this weird fucking gray area where someone
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 2: could just tell you they're a woman. That's how you
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 2: get men in women's prisons.
• 1:41:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah. All right. You've convinced me.
• 1:41:59
  Speaker 2: It doesn't mean you can't be kind.
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 2: It doesn't mean you can't. I try to be kind
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 2: to everyone.
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 2: And if I meet someone who's trans, if they want
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 2: me to call them Stacy or whatever, like, I know
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 2: a couple trans people. My friend Jim Norton is married
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 2: to a trans woman. I'm super cool with them. Hug
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 2: her every time I see her. I'm cool with that.
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 2: But at the end of the day, if I was
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 2: a woman, I, I want biological women in my, I
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 2: think the solution is individual bathrooms whenever feasible. And if
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 2: you want to have an all gender bathroom, good luck
• 1:42:31
  Speaker 2: with the legal ramifications of that. If it's a bar,
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 2: because then any guy can fucking go in there and
• 1:42:35
  Speaker 2: any guy and girl can get it. If it's a
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 2: multiple stall bathroom.
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 2: But, The solution is X, Y, chromosome. And the solution
• 1:42:42
  Speaker 2: is like if a guy walks into the men's room
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 2: with a dress on and he's trans, just leave him alone.
• 1:42:48
  Speaker 2: Leave him alone. Let him go to the bathroom. Like
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 2: what is the big deal?
• 1:42:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:42:52
  Speaker 2: Like at the end of the day, we have to
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 2: understand like what is more important, one person's feelings or
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 2: the safety of all these women?
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:43:01
  Speaker 2: The safety of all these women is much more important.
• 1:43:04
  Speaker 2: So you gotta be kind to people, but also you
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 2: gotta have rules. There's a reason why there's a woman's
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 2: room and a men's room. It's because some men are
• 1:43:12
  Speaker 2: fucking creeps. And if you allow those creeps to just
• 1:43:14
  Speaker 2: put on a dress, well you, and again, I'm not
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 2: saying all trans people are like this at all. You
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 2: can't have that loophole. You can't. Let's say you can't
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 2: have an open border. Doesn't mean that all immigrants are murderers.
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 2: And you don't think that either. Right. But some people
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 2: that sneak across the border, if you don't check, are
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 2: going to be murderers. It's just a fact.
• 1:43:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 2: So you have to have a fucking closed border to
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 2: check and you have to have a gender border, too.
• 1:43:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, God damn it. And my only takeaway from
• 1:43:42
  Speaker 1: my experience that I was relating to you. Is that
• 1:43:45
  Speaker 1: it made me feel compassionate. Well, that's nice. And I
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 1: want to be a good.
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 2: That's good. A better reason would be it's fucking stupid
• 1:43:52
  Speaker 2: to get a boob job. Don't do it. No one's
• 1:43:55
  Speaker 2: going to like you more. I think you're cool because
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 2: you got a boob job at 52.
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 1: I'm glad.
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 3: I'm glad that.
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 2: How old are you now?
• 1:44:01
  Speaker 1: 51.
• 1:44:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's too old for a boob job.
• 1:44:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 2: Even if you're a girl.
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 3: I'm... Unless you just got divorced.
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 2: You're like, I need some new dick. I gotta go.
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 1: I'm really glad that I didn't do it.
• 1:44:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, me too.
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 2: If you were here with a boob... With two giant boobs,
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 2: I'd be like, I don't know what to say to
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 2: this guy. This is so stupid.
• 1:44:17
  Speaker 1: You know who was into the idea and thought it
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 1: was fucking really funny? It was Bert.
• 1:44:22
  Speaker 2: Of course.
• 1:44:23
  Speaker 1: Of course.
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 2: Also, he has his own boobs.
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:44:29
  Speaker 2: Bert goes back and forth, but he's light now. He
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 2: quit drinking for like six months.
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 1: Oh, man.
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 2: He had a little bit of a health scare.
• 1:44:36
  Speaker 1: His– Fucking sitcom on Netflix is so good.
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 2: It's really good. He's funny, man. He's a fun dude.
• 1:44:42
  Speaker 2: It's just like he's another guy that is like a
• 1:44:45
  Speaker 2: little overexposed. He does so much promotion and so much stuff,
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 2: like you. You know, like talking about that thing where
• 1:44:51
  Speaker 2: you get the negative feedback?
• 1:44:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:44:53
  Speaker 2: You get a lot of negative feedback for overpromoting shows,
• 1:44:56
  Speaker 2: but– Don't listen. Don't watch it. Who cares? If you
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 2: think he's promoting himself too much, just don't pay attention.
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 1: Let me run this by you.
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 2: There's shit to be angry about in the world.
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 1: Sure.
• 1:45:07
  Speaker 2: Burt Kreischer promoting a comedy special is not on that list.
• 1:45:12
  Speaker 1: Right. Let me run this by you.
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:45:16
  Speaker 1: Okay, so I decide I'm only going to promote things
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 1: that are healthy or at the very least don't do harm.
• 1:45:24
  Speaker 1: I felt really good about that.
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 2: So what are you promoting that you have a problem with?
• 1:45:31
  Speaker 1: I see this guy, Brian Johnson.
• 1:45:34
  Speaker 2: Oh, the guy who wants to live forever.
• 1:45:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the guy who wants to live forever. I'm fascinated
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 1: by him. I had him on my podcast. He's a
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 1: unique guy. But I see him. He's on this war
• 1:45:47
  Speaker 1: path against AG1. And I'm like... God damn. I'm like. Right.
• 1:45:54
  Speaker 2: But he sells a competing supplement.
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 1: Right. That sounds.
• 1:45:57
  Speaker 2: Here's the thing about it.
• 1:45:59
  Speaker 1: For what it's worth, I drink AG1 every goddamn day.
• 1:46:02
  Speaker 2: It's a vitamin. It's a multivitamin. It's not the end
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 2: all be all. It's going to fix your health. But
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 2: vitamins are good for you. And if you can get
• 1:46:10
  Speaker 2: vitamins and a simple travel pack like AG1 has and
• 1:46:13
  Speaker 2: throw them in your book bag and take them with
• 1:46:15
  Speaker 2: you places, it's better than not having vitamins. Period. That's it.
• 1:46:19
  Speaker 2: That's all it is. I think part of the problem
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 2: that people have with AG1 is maybe they overstated some
• 1:46:26
  Speaker 2: of the benefits of the probiotics and prebiotics. Like when
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 2: people have analyzed the nutrient density of these packs and
• 1:46:34
  Speaker 2: what the ingredients is, that's been their criticism. But criticizing
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 2: a multivitamin that you're taking in a liquid form, that
• 1:46:41
  Speaker 2: seems kind of silly. Is it going to be the
• 1:46:44
  Speaker 2: best thing that you've ever done for your health? No,
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 2: being in shape and eating well is the best thing
• 1:46:48
  Speaker 2: you've ever done for your health. But Having like some
• 1:46:52
  Speaker 2: sort of nutritional insurance, some sort of a little thing,
• 1:46:55
  Speaker 2: a little thing that you add to your food every day.
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 1: It's designed to fill in the gaps in your diet.
• 1:47:04
  Speaker 2: It's a good thing to have vitamins, period. That's it.
• 1:47:08
  Speaker 2: Vitamins are good.
• 1:47:09
  Speaker 1: And it tastes good.
• 1:47:09
  Speaker 2: It's simple.
• 1:47:10
  Speaker 1: A lot of people say aging doesn't taste good. I
• 1:47:12
  Speaker 1: like the way it tastes.
• 1:47:13
  Speaker 2: You know, and if you think it's too expensive or
• 1:47:14
  Speaker 2: you think it's not good enough, then, okay, don't take it.
• 1:47:18
  Speaker 4: Whatever.
• 1:47:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:47:18
  Speaker 2: But if you take it, it's not bad for you.
• 1:47:20
  Speaker 2: There's a lot of things that are bad for you.
• 1:47:22
  Speaker 2: HG1 is not bad for you. It's fucking vitamins. It's
• 1:47:24
  Speaker 2: pretty simple. Pretty simple stuff.
• 1:47:27
  Speaker 1: Okay, good.
• 1:47:27
  Speaker 2: Take it or don't take it.
• 1:47:29
  Speaker 1: Who cares?
• 1:47:30
  Speaker 2: You know, people worry too much, again, about stupid fucking shit.
• 1:47:33
  Speaker 2: You have a brief amount of time in this. You're
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 2: halfway dead, Bubba. You know, you don't have much time
• 1:47:38
  Speaker 2: on this planet to be worrying about stupid shit.
• 1:47:40
  Speaker 1: Thank you, Joe. Yeah. Thank you.
• 1:47:43
  Speaker 2: Don't. Don't do it, man.
• 1:47:44
  Speaker 1: Okay. I just want to be a good guy. Yeah.
• 1:47:47
  Speaker 1: That's my thing.
• 1:47:47
  Speaker 2: Then just be a good guy.
• 1:47:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:47:49
  Speaker 2: But don't worry about it all the time.
• 1:47:51
  Speaker 1: Good.
• 1:47:51
  Speaker 2: That shit ain't good for you.
• 1:47:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:47:53
  Speaker 2: Don't be in your head like that.
• 1:47:54
  Speaker 1: You know what?
• 1:47:55
  Speaker 2: You're in your head worrying about your public image. You're
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 2: in your head worried about where you are in your career.
• 1:47:59
  Speaker 2: You're in your head. Just do your best.
• 1:48:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:48:01
  Speaker 2: Just do your best all the time.
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:48:05
  Speaker 2: If you enjoy what you're doing and you do your best,
• 1:48:08
  Speaker 2: everything's going to be fine.
• 1:48:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Or not.
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 2: Or you die. You know, like you can't control that either.
• 1:48:15
  Speaker 2: So what do you just keep going?
• 1:48:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:48:18
  Speaker 2: Just stop being in your head.
• 1:48:19
  Speaker 1: Everybody.
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 2: Is like, you know, you've got this all mapped out
• 1:48:22
  Speaker 2: and a lot of what you're mapping out is other
• 1:48:25
  Speaker 2: people's opinions of you. Like, oh, there's no better way
• 1:48:27
  Speaker 2: to fuck up your life than to live for other
• 1:48:30
  Speaker 2: people's opinions.
• 1:48:31
  Speaker 1: There you go. Yeah.
• 1:48:33
  Speaker 2: Do self auditing, do some self assessing, you know, there's,
• 1:48:37
  Speaker 2: Many times in my life when I'm unhappy with myself.
• 1:48:39
  Speaker 2: And so I don't. I fix it. Figure it out.
• 1:48:43
  Speaker 2: Fix it. Do better. Fix that. Fix this. Don't do
• 1:48:46
  Speaker 2: as much of that. Do less of this. Do more
• 1:48:50
  Speaker 2: of what you think is good, you know?
• 1:48:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:48:53
  Speaker 2: Try to be a nicer person. Try to be kind. Like,
• 1:48:55
  Speaker 2: it's like you can. But don't sit around worrying about
• 1:48:58
  Speaker 2: what each individual commenter thinks about you. God, that's crazy
• 1:49:02
  Speaker 2: for you.
• 1:49:03
  Speaker 1: I know.
• 1:49:03
  Speaker 2: You're absorbing too much negativity. And this is the message
• 1:49:06
  Speaker 2: that I give to everybody. Look, there's a great benefit
• 1:49:09
  Speaker 2: to social media. It's an amazing tool and it's changed society. However,
• 1:49:14
  Speaker 2: it's just like gambling. It's just like pornography. It's just
• 1:49:18
  Speaker 2: like food. You can get wrapped up in it and
• 1:49:21
  Speaker 2: it can be your whole fucking life if you let it.
• 1:49:24
  Speaker 1: It's been over a decade since I watched porn.
• 1:49:27
  Speaker 2: That's awesome.
• 1:49:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:49:31
  Speaker 2: Good for you. In some people, it's been about five minutes.
• 1:49:36
  Speaker 2: Some people are watching porn on a split screen right
• 1:49:38
  Speaker 2: now while they're watching this. They're jacking off right now
• 1:49:41
  Speaker 2: to a gangbang while they're listening to Steve-O talk about how, oh,
• 1:49:44
  Speaker 2: you're missing out. You know how many people are subscribed
• 1:49:48
  Speaker 2: to OnlyFans? We were looking this up the other day.
• 1:49:51
  Speaker 2: It's like, what are the numbers of Americans? It's something shocking.
• 1:49:55
  Speaker 2: It's some insanely shocking number. It's like 100 plus million
• 1:49:59
  Speaker 2: subscribers to OnlyFans.
• 1:50:01
  Speaker 1: Man.
• 1:50:03
  Speaker 2: And then with women, it's somewhere between like the ages
• 1:50:08
  Speaker 2: of 18 to like 20-something. It's like 10% of the
• 1:50:12
  Speaker 2: population is on OnlyFans.
• 1:50:14
  Speaker 1: As content?
• 1:50:16
  Speaker 2: As content creators.
• 1:50:17
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 1:50:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. So that's what's weird is because like if
• 1:50:23
  Speaker 2: you think about it, if you fuck on camera, right,
• 1:50:26
  Speaker 2: you're a porn star, right? But maybe you're only fucking
• 1:50:30
  Speaker 2: your boyfriend. Maybe you wear a mask.
• 1:50:32
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:50:33
  Speaker 2: But are you doing it for money? What if you
• 1:50:38
  Speaker 2: have sex with other people for money? Is that prostitution?
• 1:50:40
  Speaker 2: So what if they just said, well, let's just legalize prostitution.
• 1:50:43
  Speaker 2: Do you know how many fucking people would become prostitutes
• 1:50:46
  Speaker 2: if they got desperate? Like Uber driver, prostitute.
• 1:50:48
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 1:50:48
  Speaker 2: What do you want to do? Like there's a lot
• 1:50:51
  Speaker 2: of people who would go into prostitution. And some people
• 1:50:54
  Speaker 2: think they should have that right to do that and
• 1:50:56
  Speaker 2: it should be freedom and freedom of expression and freedom
• 1:50:59
  Speaker 2: of occupation.
• 1:51:00
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:51:00
  Speaker 2: And then other people go, that might not be the
• 1:51:02
  Speaker 2: best for society.
• 1:51:04
  Speaker 1: I had this crazy thought at one point.
• 1:51:07
  Speaker 2: What are the numbers for OnlyFans? There's no official numbers.
• 1:51:11
  Speaker 4: It's somewhere in the range of 100 to 150 million,
• 1:51:13
  Speaker 4: but only 4% of those are actually people who pay.
• 1:51:18
  Speaker 2: Oh, how does that work? They're free accounts. Oh, okay.
• 1:51:21
  Speaker 2: So what percent is people that pay? 4%. 4%?
• 1:51:25
  Speaker 1: 4.2%. 4%?
• 1:51:28
  Speaker 2: Oh, so there's 100 million people accessing free content and
• 1:51:32
  Speaker 2: 4% of the users actually compete paid transactions. Wait a minute,
• 1:51:38
  Speaker 2: but does it cost money to join?
• 1:51:40
  Speaker 1: Nope.
• 1:51:41
  Speaker 2: It doesn't cost to join.
• 1:51:42
  Speaker 4: It's up to the person who's making the content.
• 1:51:44
  Speaker 2: So is a paid transaction mean you subscribed? Depends. So
• 1:51:49
  Speaker 2: if you go on OnlyFans, you have to subscribe to
• 1:51:53
  Speaker 2: each person's content, right?
• 1:51:55
  Speaker 1: Yes. Okay. Okay.
• 1:51:56
  Speaker 2: So it's only 4% that are doing that. So over
• 1:51:59
  Speaker 2: 100 million creepers are just checking it out.
• 1:52:03
  Speaker 4: Well, that's where you go. People have multiple accounts.
• 1:52:06
  Speaker 2: Right. That's a good point.
• 1:52:08
  Speaker 1: Why? Why?
• 1:52:10
  Speaker 2: Well, various reasons I wouldn't get into. Jamie's got multiple accounts.
• 1:52:17
  Speaker 4: I've never subscribed to one of those things.
• 1:52:19
  Speaker 2: Of course not. I was joking. So 4% is not
• 1:52:23
  Speaker 2: as much, but it's still. That's 4 million people that.
• 1:52:25
  Speaker 1: Are paying, 4 or 5 million people.
• 1:52:28
  Speaker 2: That are paying. And what are the percentage of young
• 1:52:32
  Speaker 2: girls that are on OnlyFans as content creators? And they're
• 1:52:36
  Speaker 2: not all showing the cooch. Some of them are just
• 1:52:39
  Speaker 2: a little nip slip, maybe just a bikini shot, G-string,
• 1:52:45
  Speaker 2: bend over. But it's still.
• 1:52:47
  Speaker 1: But then you've got like the bad baby chick make
• 1:52:49
  Speaker 1: like $ 50 million on there. I know.
• 1:52:52
  Speaker 2: That's crazy. What did she do on there?
• 1:52:53
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I have no idea.
• 1:52:55
  Speaker 4: According to these numbers, 4 to 4.6 million creators worldwide
• 1:52:59
  Speaker 4: with 1 million of them being in America.
• 1:53:02
  Speaker 2: Oh, that's it? So when they said it's 10% of
• 1:53:05
  Speaker 2: girls 18 to 49– What percentage of girls, not 18
• 1:53:10
  Speaker 2: to 25, I think that was the number. What percentage
• 1:53:14
  Speaker 2: of girls, put that in 18 to 25 in America,
• 1:53:18
  Speaker 2: have an account on OnlyFans? Percentage of girls between 18
• 1:53:23
  Speaker 2: to 25 in America have an account on OnlyFans. Okay,
• 1:53:29
  Speaker 2: let's see here. Let's see what it says.
• 1:53:31
  Speaker 1: 10%.
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 2: 14% of American women aged 18 to 24 have an
• 1:53:39
  Speaker 2: OnlyFans account. That's crazy, dude.
• 1:53:42
  Speaker 1: That is really crazy.
• 1:53:43
  Speaker 2: That's crazy. 14% of American women aged 18 to 24
• 1:53:48
  Speaker 2: have an OnlyFans account. That is wild.
• 1:53:51
  Speaker 4: It's just an estimate, though, just for argument's sake.
• 1:53:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:53:54
  Speaker 4: Because there are not official numbers, I don't think, in
• 1:53:56
  Speaker 4: any way.
• 1:53:57
  Speaker 1: I had this crazy thought, hypothetically.
• 1:54:00
  Speaker 2: That's a crazy estimate.
• 1:54:03
  Speaker 1: Hypothetically, if you had a brick-and-mortar establishment with a bunch
• 1:54:07
  Speaker 1: of chicks in there. Or else, I mean.
• 1:54:09
  Speaker 2: Right, yeah.
• 1:54:11
  Speaker 1: And an ordained minister so that a guy could walk in,
• 1:54:17
  Speaker 1: pick out a woman, and marry them on the spot.
• 1:54:21
  Speaker 1: So then now that's your wife, and you are consummating
• 1:54:25
  Speaker 1: your marriage. That's got to be totally legal. And then
• 1:54:29
  Speaker 1: as you leave the establishment... You annul the marriage. Is
• 1:54:34
  Speaker 1: that not like– would that not just automatically– That's a loophole.
• 1:54:38
  Speaker 2: That's a prostitution loophole. Well, one thing you could do
• 1:54:41
  Speaker 2: is you could have a thing where you could fall
• 1:54:43
  Speaker 2: in love immediately and get married and then give someone citizenship.
• 1:54:47
  Speaker 1: Right. But as soon as you....
• 1:54:50
  Speaker 2: But they come and visit you. They want to see
• 1:54:52
  Speaker 2: if you're really in love. They're like, how long have
• 1:54:55
  Speaker 2: you guys known each other?
• 1:54:56
  Speaker 1: It's crazy.
• 1:54:57
  Speaker 2: Let me see you hold hands. Let me see you kiss.
• 1:54:59
  Speaker 1: I know a bunch of people who have gotten married
• 1:55:01
  Speaker 1: for just citizenship. Oh, yeah.
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 2: I know a dude who married a girl for citizenship. Yeah.
• 1:55:07
  Speaker 1: But you got to stay married.
• 1:55:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah. He did it for her. She was... Fuck, where
• 1:55:12
  Speaker 2: was she from? I forget. But they didn't even really
• 1:55:15
  Speaker 2: have a relationship. I think she was from Russia.
• 1:55:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah. They seem to tend to be from Russia.
• 1:55:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was just like they made a deal. I
• 1:55:22
  Speaker 2: think it was a financial deal. This is the 90s.
• 1:55:24
  Speaker 2: She's dead now.
• 1:55:26
  Speaker 1: Okay, I want to ask you, do you believe in reincarnation?
• 1:55:30
  Speaker 2: I don't not believe in it.
• 1:55:31
  Speaker 1: I think that there's pretty solid evidence, if not irrefutable,
• 1:55:39
  Speaker 1: but you've got little kids that are giving details that
• 1:55:44
  Speaker 1: check out total... You know, and they know like.
• 1:55:49
  Speaker 2: There's another alternative. That alternative is genetic memory. And so
• 1:55:54
  Speaker 2: we know that some memories are transferred through genes. And
• 1:55:57
  Speaker 2: this is one of the reasons why arachnophobia exists. Arachnophobia
• 1:56:02
  Speaker 2: is an irrational fear of spiders.
• 1:56:04
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:56:04
  Speaker 2: The idea is that at some point in your genetic lineage,
• 1:56:08
  Speaker 2: someone got really fucked up by a spider. Either you
• 1:56:11
  Speaker 2: witness someone dying from a spider bite or you almost
• 1:56:13
  Speaker 2: died from a spider bite. And that memory is transferred
• 1:56:16
  Speaker 2: through the genes. The same with aphidiophobia, which is a
• 1:56:19
  Speaker 2: fear of snakes. There's irrational fears that some people have
• 1:56:23
  Speaker 2: that they attribute to a possible genetic memory. And then
• 1:56:26
  Speaker 2: there's also genetic memories that are in animals that we
• 1:56:31
  Speaker 2: know for a fact. Like a dog does not have
• 1:56:34
  Speaker 2: to be taught. Like I have a golden retriever. Marshall.
• 1:56:37
  Speaker 1: Marshall.
• 1:56:37
  Speaker 2: He's the best. And you don't have to teach Marshall
• 1:56:39
  Speaker 2: to bring a ball back. He's a retriever. He has
• 1:56:42
  Speaker 2: some sort of a genetic memory. And he also, I
• 1:56:45
  Speaker 2: didn't have to teach him to pee in a bush
• 1:56:47
  Speaker 2: and lift his leg. Like he knew how to do that.
• 1:56:51
  Speaker 2: It's in their system, right? There's a bunch of things
• 1:56:53
  Speaker 2: that are in their system. They see animals, they get excited,
• 1:56:56
  Speaker 2: they want to bite them. Like it's not a learned behavior.
• 1:56:59
  Speaker 2: Like that dog's super well fed, but he will fuck
• 1:57:01
  Speaker 2: a squirrel up if he catches it.
• 1:57:02
  Speaker 1: Why?
• 1:57:03
  Speaker 2: Because it's in his genetics.
• 1:57:05
  Speaker 1: It's in his instinct. Right.
• 1:57:07
  Speaker 2: So then with humans, think about all the different things
• 1:57:10
  Speaker 2: that humans learn. Think of all the different fears that
• 1:57:13
  Speaker 2: humans have and how many of them are programmed like
• 1:57:17
  Speaker 2: Rupert Sheldrake had a really important point once about What
• 1:57:21
  Speaker 2: children are afraid of he goes do you think about it?
• 1:57:24
  Speaker 2: What are children afraid of they're afraid of monsters in
• 1:57:26
  Speaker 2: the dark, right? They're they're not afraid of child molesters
• 1:57:31
  Speaker 2: or murderers or rapists and stracar accidents They're not afraid
• 1:57:34
  Speaker 2: of they're not afraid of things that really can harm them.
• 1:57:36
  Speaker 2: They're afraid of monsters and And most children, especially living
• 1:57:40
  Speaker 2: in a city, have never seen a monster, right? So
• 1:57:42
  Speaker 2: why are they afraid of this thing? Well, it's because
• 1:57:45
  Speaker 2: there's a genetic memory of us being preyed on by cats.
• 1:57:50
  Speaker 2: And big cats who killed people forever hid in the trees,
• 1:57:53
  Speaker 2: they hid in the dark, and you would go out
• 1:57:55
  Speaker 2: to get water and they'd fuck you up and kill you.
• 1:57:57
  Speaker 2: And so that is in little kids' memories. So if
• 1:58:01
  Speaker 2: there's these kind of peripheral abstract memories or really... radical,
• 1:58:07
  Speaker 2: sharp memories that don't make sense, like arachnophobia. and things
• 1:58:10
  Speaker 2: like that, it's so possible that it's not just those
• 1:58:15
  Speaker 2: things that are transferred through the genetics but also learned
• 1:58:19
  Speaker 2: experiences and maybe even information. You just don't have a
• 1:58:22
  Speaker 2: way of expressing it yet. That's one of the reasons
• 1:58:24
  Speaker 2: why you'll notice that a lot of the children of
• 1:58:27
  Speaker 2: talented musicians– are really talented, even when they're adopted, even
• 1:58:32
  Speaker 2: when they grew up in different families. They might have
• 1:58:34
  Speaker 2: never even been around that parent, but they have some
• 1:58:37
  Speaker 2: sort of innate musical talent or literary talent or something.
• 1:58:43
  Speaker 2: I think there's some things that get transferred in DNA
• 1:58:47
  Speaker 2: that we're not totally aware of. It's not like you
• 1:58:49
  Speaker 2: get a menu list of all the things that you
• 1:58:52
  Speaker 2: got from your parents. Oh, look, my dad was into history.
• 1:58:55
  Speaker 2: That's why I'm into history. Look at all these things.
• 1:58:57
  Speaker 2: I think there's a lot of stuff that transfers that
• 1:59:01
  Speaker 2: maybe gets filed away and maybe other people have access
• 1:59:05
  Speaker 2: to those memories that you don't. Like there's weird levels
• 1:59:10
  Speaker 2: of memory retention. We were talking about Mary Lou Henner
• 1:59:12
  Speaker 2: from Taxi the other day. What's that disease she has?
• 1:59:15
  Speaker 2: It's not a disease. It's the opposite of a disease.
• 1:59:18
  Speaker 2: It's an amazing ability. She has this incredible ability. You
• 1:59:20
  Speaker 2: can tell her. July 2nd, 1976. She could tell you
• 1:59:24
  Speaker 2: it was a Tuesday. She could tell you what happened,
• 1:59:26
  Speaker 2: what was in the news, who did what, what she did,
• 1:59:28
  Speaker 2: what color clothes she was wearing. Highly superior autobiographical memory. Now,
• 1:59:34
  Speaker 2: imagine if that, whatever that is, that incredible memory is
• 1:59:40
  Speaker 2: passed genetically occasionally and passed into some children. And then
• 1:59:45
  Speaker 2: they don't just get the memory of their own life,
• 1:59:48
  Speaker 2: but they get the memory of previous lives that other
• 1:59:50
  Speaker 2: people have lived. So you think about how many different
• 1:59:54
  Speaker 2: generations of human beings had to exist before Steve-O was born.
• 1:59:58
  Speaker 2: You have all of this DNA and all of this
• 2:00:01
  Speaker 2: information inside of your genes, supposedly. Maybe you can access
• 2:00:06
  Speaker 2: some of that. And that some of it that you're
• 2:00:08
  Speaker 2: accessing might be what we're calling reincarnation.
• 2:00:12
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 2:00:13
  Speaker 2: What is this, Jamie?
• 2:00:13
  Speaker 4: This is the doctor who is a specialist in reincarnation
• 2:00:16
  Speaker 4: at the University of Virginia.
• 2:00:18
  Speaker 2: His name is Dr. Jim Tucker.
• 2:00:19
  Speaker 4: He's continuing the work of a previous— Doctor, I think
• 2:00:22
  Speaker 4: Hammond is his last name.
• 2:00:24
  Speaker 2: Interesting.
• 2:00:24
  Speaker 4: These are the two most repeated stories I've heard about
• 2:00:27
  Speaker 4: that people talk about. There's a kid that repeats stories
• 2:00:30
  Speaker 4: of a plane crash when he was a pilot.
• 2:00:33
  Speaker 2: He's got a lot.
• 2:00:34
  Speaker 4: There's further videos I've watched on this kid. So many
• 2:00:36
  Speaker 4: details are insane.
• 2:00:37
  Speaker 2: Details verified against historical records of a pilot who died
• 2:00:41
  Speaker 2: 50 years earlier matching exactly despite no prior family exposure.
• 2:00:47
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 2:00:47
  Speaker 2: Well, that's very different.
• 2:00:48
  Speaker 4: He went and met people and recognized them, I think,
• 2:00:50
  Speaker 4: and even pointed out some.
• 2:00:52
  Speaker 2: Of the things. Okay, but here's the thing. If that
• 2:00:54
  Speaker 2: kid is not related in any way to this person
• 2:00:57
  Speaker 2: who died from the plane crash, then we're talking about
• 2:01:01
  Speaker 2: something totally different then.
• 2:01:02
  Speaker 4: But what you are getting at, there is discussions of
• 2:01:06
  Speaker 4: this kind of overall work. I think it's on here
• 2:01:09
  Speaker 4: where people talk about that. Deepak Chopra says it's a
• 2:01:12
  Speaker 4: little bit like quantum physics. So how this happens isn't known, obviously,
• 2:01:17
  Speaker 4: because this guy even says.
• 2:01:18
  Speaker 2: It starts, I think, between like age two.
• 2:01:21
  Speaker 4: And by age five or so, all the memories are
• 2:01:23
  Speaker 4: kind of gone and they don't remember this stuff anymore.
• 2:01:25
  Speaker 1: Wow. It's like very fleeting.
• 2:01:26
  Speaker 4: You can't really ask a lot of questions. They have
• 2:01:28
  Speaker 4: to just tell you. And if you start asking too
• 2:01:30
  Speaker 4: many questions, they freak out. Some of the kids start
• 2:01:32
  Speaker 4: crying and it goes away. It's very odd, but there's
• 2:01:36
  Speaker 4: too many cases.
• 2:01:37
  Speaker 2: Well, what's really odd is that it goes away.
• 2:01:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 2:01:39
  Speaker 2: That's really odd.
• 2:01:41
  Speaker 4: As you were saying with Mary Lou Henner, hers doesn't
• 2:01:43
  Speaker 4: even start until she was age 11.
• 2:01:44
  Speaker 2: Interesting.
• 2:01:45
  Speaker 1: So she, it's always little kids. It's always little kids
• 2:01:49
  Speaker 1: that have, uh, memories of, of past lives. And they're,
• 2:01:54
  Speaker 1: they're supposed to name the, um, the Dalai Lama based
• 2:01:59
  Speaker 1: on a kid having a memory, you know, it's supposed
• 2:02:03
  Speaker 1: to be a reincarnation thing. Um, you know, I, I'm
• 2:02:06
  Speaker 1: fascinated by that. And also, um, kind of in the
• 2:02:09
  Speaker 1: same vein of it, um, So many irrefutable examples of
• 2:02:14
  Speaker 1: where consciousness is evident separate from the brain. Like you've
• 2:02:22
  Speaker 1: got the, you know, like people with no brain activity whatsoever,
• 2:02:26
  Speaker 1: you know, like they're officially dead. You know, they're in
• 2:02:29
  Speaker 1: the hospital and they wake up, come back to life
• 2:02:34
  Speaker 1: or whatever the case may be. and they're explaining to
• 2:02:38
  Speaker 1: the doctor what was happening while they were unconscious. And
• 2:02:42
  Speaker 1: to the extent that that can maybe be explained from
• 2:02:46
  Speaker 1: what they were in the room, a lot of these cases,
• 2:02:51
  Speaker 1: they wake up and they say what the doctor was
• 2:02:54
  Speaker 1: doing in a different part of the hospital. Whoa. There's
• 2:02:57
  Speaker 1: a case of a guy, a doctor, he was like,
• 2:03:04
  Speaker 1: had a patient and he's in the cafeteria at the hospital.
• 2:03:08
  Speaker 1: He spills spaghetti on his shirt or something. He's like,
• 2:03:11
  Speaker 1: oh man, I got a stain on my shirt. And
• 2:03:13
  Speaker 1: so he puts his lab coat over it and does
• 2:03:16
  Speaker 1: it up. And then the patient wakes up and says,
• 2:03:18
  Speaker 1: oh yeah, that's how you spilled the shit on your shirt.
• 2:03:21
  Speaker 1: There's a lot of evidence of consciousness operating separate from
• 2:03:28
  Speaker 1: the brain. And I had the most fascinating conversation with
• 2:03:32
  Speaker 1: Duncan Trussell. about the idea that the brain is not
• 2:03:40
  Speaker 1: a generator. It's not a transmitter.
• 2:03:43
  Speaker 2: It's an antenna.
• 2:03:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's an antenna. Yeah. And that explains a lot
• 2:03:47
  Speaker 1: of stuff to me about the soul. I was saying
• 2:03:51
  Speaker 1: to Duncan Trussell, imagine that we're more of a radio,
• 2:03:57
  Speaker 1: like an antenna. You can take a radio, and with
• 2:04:01
  Speaker 1: a sledgehammer, just push... smash it to smithereens. You've done
• 2:04:05
  Speaker 1: nothing to disrupt the actual signal. So the, you know, the, the,
• 2:04:11
  Speaker 1: you know, that signal can now tune in, be picked
• 2:04:14
  Speaker 1: up by another radio. And that kind of explains reincarnation
• 2:04:18
  Speaker 1: to me on some level. And Duncan Truzzle hears that
• 2:04:21
  Speaker 1: he goes, yeah. And he got so many fucking people
• 2:04:24
  Speaker 1: walking around. They'd, They don't realize they're a radio. They
• 2:04:27
  Speaker 1: think they're the fucking Beatles.
• 2:04:30
  Speaker 2: That's hilarious.
• 2:04:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 2:04:36
  Speaker 2: Duncan's so funny.
• 2:04:37
  Speaker 1: He's so good.
• 2:04:38
  Speaker 2: Such a unique human.
• 2:04:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And so all of this stuff is like super
• 2:04:41
  Speaker 1: fascinating to me.
• 2:04:44
  Speaker 2: It is interesting, but there's no answers. So it's like
• 2:04:47
  Speaker 2: there's a reason why so many societies and so many
• 2:04:49
  Speaker 2: civilizations for a long time have believed– reincarnation afterlife that
• 2:04:57
  Speaker 2: there's some sort of disembodied consciousness there's a reason consciousness
• 2:05:01
  Speaker 2: but then it gets really weird it's like they've also
• 2:05:03
  Speaker 2: believed in beings that have come down from the heavens
• 2:05:07
  Speaker 2: so what are those things what are those things what's
• 2:05:11
  Speaker 2: that about who are those people how.
• 2:05:13
  Speaker 1: About near-death experiences.
• 2:05:15
  Speaker 2: Well, near-death experiences you could attribute to a lot of things, right?
• 2:05:19
  Speaker 2: One of the things you could attribute to is an
• 2:05:21
  Speaker 2: endogenous dump of psychedelic chemicals that we know the brain
• 2:05:25
  Speaker 2: makes under stress. And one of the big ones is dimethyltryptamine,
• 2:05:29
  Speaker 2: which we know your body makes. And there's a lot
• 2:05:33
  Speaker 2: of people that think that it's sort of a chemical
• 2:05:35
  Speaker 2: gateway and that what you're doing is getting a peek
• 2:05:39
  Speaker 2: into the afterlife. when you're having these DMT experiences and
• 2:05:43
  Speaker 2: that when you're having a near-death experience, that's your brain
• 2:05:48
  Speaker 2: flooding with DMT to prepare you for leaving this world.
• 2:05:53
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 2:05:54
  Speaker 2: It's just weird that they all have a very similar
• 2:05:56
  Speaker 2: thing about going through a tunnel and a light at
• 2:05:58
  Speaker 2: the end of the tunnel. It's like this, it's a journey.
• 2:06:02
  Speaker 2: And what is, you know, I haven't had a near-death experience.
• 2:06:05
  Speaker 2: I don't know what it's like.
• 2:06:05
  Speaker 1: You know who had one? Jeremy Renner.
• 2:06:09
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 2:06:10
  Speaker 1: With the snowmobile accident. I'm so fascinated by near-death experience
• 2:06:15
  Speaker 1: videos on YouTube. You've got thousands of people who have
• 2:06:18
  Speaker 1: had the experience of dying, been on the other side,
• 2:06:21
  Speaker 1: and they describe what's called life review. There's the saying
• 2:06:26
  Speaker 1: that everybody's familiar with, that when you die, your life
• 2:06:29
  Speaker 1: flashes before your eyes. However, the way that these people
• 2:06:32
  Speaker 1: describe it, it's that on the other side of death,
• 2:06:38
  Speaker 1: like as a spirit, like somehow the concept of time
• 2:06:43
  Speaker 1: is like, doesn't apply anymore. So you've got like, it's
• 2:06:47
  Speaker 1: not like that your life flashes before your eyes because
• 2:06:51
  Speaker 1: time isn't like a, there's no time constraint. So you've
• 2:06:54
  Speaker 1: got like, you know, unfathomable, like immersion, you know, without
• 2:06:59
  Speaker 1: time and that it's not that you're, uh, you know,
• 2:07:04
  Speaker 1: experiencing your life as you, as you experienced it, but
• 2:07:08
  Speaker 1: rather They describe experiencing your life in the most, I guess, important,
• 2:07:14
  Speaker 1: memorable moments from the perspective of the people who you influenced,
• 2:07:20
  Speaker 1: the people who you had an impact on. And it's
• 2:07:23
  Speaker 1: not just from their perspective, but in this near-death experience,
• 2:07:28
  Speaker 1: life review, the way that they describe it, you are
• 2:07:31
  Speaker 1: those people. It's like.
• 2:07:33
  Speaker 2: And every....
• 2:07:36
  Speaker 1: Uh you know all the scriptures all the spirituality like
• 2:07:39
  Speaker 1: there's this this the idea that that's separation is an
• 2:07:43
  Speaker 1: illusion that at the end of the day that there's
• 2:07:45
  Speaker 1: only oneness we're all one thing we're all eyes in
• 2:07:49
  Speaker 1: the same head you know we're all the same thing
• 2:07:52
  Speaker 1: wearing different costumes.
• 2:07:53
  Speaker 2: Right so that begs the question like why are we
• 2:07:55
  Speaker 2: separate like what's the purpose for experience.
• 2:07:59
  Speaker 1: Like the the As I understand it, the way that,
• 2:08:04
  Speaker 1: you know, what I've bought onto is that the universe,
• 2:08:09
  Speaker 1: you know, everything, you know, like God. Uh-huh. In the
• 2:08:13
  Speaker 1: absolute form, God as one thing cannot have experience because...
• 2:08:19
  Speaker 1: there's nothing to relate to, you know? And so God
• 2:08:24
  Speaker 1: in the absolute sense is kind of a, it's pure love,
• 2:08:28
  Speaker 1: it's this pure awesome, but it's very lonely, you know, proposition.
• 2:08:34
  Speaker 1: So the idea of the separation is the universe, God
• 2:08:39
  Speaker 1: like blasts itself into infinite different things to create the
• 2:08:45
  Speaker 1: realm of the relative. So now... There's, you know, we
• 2:08:49
  Speaker 1: have the separation. So now we can relate to one.
• 2:08:52
  Speaker 1: This allows for God to experience itself, which you would
• 2:08:57
  Speaker 1: never be able to do. You would never be able
• 2:08:59
  Speaker 1: to have up and down or, you know, anything. And
• 2:09:02
  Speaker 1: so it's like the whole point is for experience. Right.
• 2:09:06
  Speaker 2: But what's the benefit of experience for God?
• 2:09:11
  Speaker 1: To know itself.
• 2:09:12
  Speaker 2: So this is in regards only to human beings or
• 2:09:14
  Speaker 2: all animals?
• 2:09:16
  Speaker 1: Um. Different, like, the souls. And I go down these
• 2:09:23
  Speaker 1: fucking rabbit holes, dude. Like, particularly recently, I did this
• 2:09:30
  Speaker 1: whole audio book, a modern English version of a book
• 2:09:34
  Speaker 1: that was published in 1857 by a French dude named
• 2:09:39
  Speaker 1: Alan Kardec. It's called The Spirit's Book. And you've got
• 2:09:45
  Speaker 1: all these mediums that he's communicating with and putting together
• 2:09:48
  Speaker 1: this definitive book on spiritism. And the way that that
• 2:09:56
  Speaker 1: book describes it is that animals have souls, but not
• 2:10:02
  Speaker 1: souls with moral implications of the growth. The purpose of
• 2:10:11
  Speaker 1: our separation... And the purpose of our experience is to
• 2:10:16
  Speaker 1: have free will, to have the choice to do good
• 2:10:19
  Speaker 1: or bad or, you know, whatever. But to evolve as
• 2:10:24
  Speaker 1: a soul where you evolve towards being loving and, you know.
• 2:10:30
  Speaker 2: Where was he getting this from?
• 2:10:31
  Speaker 1: From mediums.
• 2:10:32
  Speaker 2: From mediums. So the spirit world was telling him this.
• 2:10:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And like crazy, like a lot of like that.
• 2:10:42
  Speaker 2: The problem with mediums is the same problem that you
• 2:10:45
  Speaker 2: have with trans people using the bathroom. Some are legit.
• 2:10:49
  Speaker 1: Sure.
• 2:10:50
  Speaker 2: And some of them are just not.
• 2:10:52
  Speaker 1: Right, right, right. Of course.
• 2:10:53
  Speaker 2: That's the issue with anybody saying that they know exactly
• 2:10:58
  Speaker 2: why– what is the difference between the way animals think
• 2:11:01
  Speaker 2: and behave and humans think and behave?
• 2:11:03
  Speaker 1: Well, I think with animals there's– You know, it's– they're like.
• 2:11:09
  Speaker 2: They're in the wild. They need survival.
• 2:11:10
  Speaker 1: Survival. You know, where like– where humans have kind of
• 2:11:13
  Speaker 1: a higher level of like a higher bar to meet
• 2:11:17
  Speaker 1: because we have like more– there's more moral implications to
• 2:11:20
  Speaker 1: the way we conduct our lives.
• 2:11:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, we've also figured out shelter, right? So we're
• 2:11:26
  Speaker 2: a little bit– we have doors. So we're not– we're
• 2:11:29
  Speaker 2: separated from the wild world, which has allowed us to
• 2:11:33
  Speaker 2: have a lot more time to innovate and think.
• 2:11:35
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 2:11:36
  Speaker 2: It might be correct. I think that— It's just interesting.
• 2:11:40
  Speaker 1: It's very interesting.
• 2:11:40
  Speaker 2: Because it's like— the problem is people, like, they buy in
• 2:11:44
  Speaker 2: to things as being, like, absolute truth.
• 2:11:47
  Speaker 1: Sure.
• 2:11:48
  Speaker 2: And especially things that are exciting, like spiritual mediums and
• 2:11:52
  Speaker 2: spirits and channeling and all that shit.
• 2:11:56
  Speaker 1: I think that with the near-death experience, you know, all
• 2:11:59
  Speaker 1: these thousands of people have had the accounts. There's— There's
• 2:12:03
  Speaker 1: this society of near-death experiencers, like official– I.
• 2:12:08
  Speaker 2: Wonder if any frauds slip in there with a fake
• 2:12:11
  Speaker 2: story of almost dying. I don't doubt it. I bet
• 2:12:13
  Speaker 2: they do. I don't doubt it.
• 2:12:14
  Speaker 1: But the consistency across all of these accounts, it's like–
• 2:12:19
  Speaker 1: it kind of like lends legitimacy to me.
• 2:12:22
  Speaker 2: Well, that's the case with the alien abduction experience as well.
• 2:12:26
  Speaker 2: That's another weird one. It's like I want to dismiss
• 2:12:29
  Speaker 2: it outright. I haven't had it, so I'm like, fuck
• 2:12:32
  Speaker 2: these people. It's not real. But man, it gets weird.
• 2:12:35
  Speaker 2: It gets real, especially when you read Jacques Vallée' s work
• 2:12:39
  Speaker 2: and you realize this stuff has been going on in
• 2:12:41
  Speaker 2: the 1700s, 1800s. They just had a different way of
• 2:12:44
  Speaker 2: talking about it because they didn't have the idea that
• 2:12:48
  Speaker 2: a physical craft could fly in the sky that's made
• 2:12:52
  Speaker 2: out of metal. To them, that was alien. It didn't make,
• 2:12:54
  Speaker 2: I mean, for lack of a better word. So they
• 2:12:57
  Speaker 2: didn't describe it that way, but they did describe meeting
• 2:13:00
  Speaker 2: these creatures and being taken away and waking up. Sucked
• 2:13:03
  Speaker 2: up in a light. Yeah, things like that. It's like
• 2:13:06
  Speaker 2: there's so many of those stories. And then the actual
• 2:13:09
  Speaker 2: stories of people that have been supposedly abducted that have
• 2:13:14
  Speaker 2: these stories of these encounters. They're oddly similar regardless of
• 2:13:18
  Speaker 2: where they live in the world, which is real weird.
• 2:13:21
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 2:13:21
  Speaker 2: And it's one of those things. It's like if it
• 2:13:23
  Speaker 2: hasn't happened to you, you really wouldn't be able to
• 2:13:26
  Speaker 2: describe it. Sure. And if it did happen to you,
• 2:13:30
  Speaker 2: you'd be like, how am I even going to tell
• 2:13:31
  Speaker 2: anybody about this?
• 2:13:32
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 2:13:32
  Speaker 2: Because no one else has this experience, so this is
• 2:13:35
  Speaker 2: going to be a crazy thing that I'm going to
• 2:13:36
  Speaker 2: talk about. Everyone's going to think I'm a kook.
• 2:13:39
  Speaker 1: That's been a lot of people's experience, I think, up
• 2:13:41
  Speaker 1: until recently. So now, like, with the way that people
• 2:13:45
  Speaker 1: describe the life review, you know, and they describe, like,
• 2:13:50
  Speaker 1: things where they said something nasty and then, you know,
• 2:13:54
  Speaker 1: they did whatever, they did something like, you know, hurtful.
• 2:13:57
  Speaker 1: And in their life review, they are the person, they
• 2:14:00
  Speaker 1: feel that sorrow and they come back like with like
• 2:14:04
  Speaker 1: such a, maybe remorse, maybe like more like heightened compassion,
• 2:14:09
  Speaker 1: like less, less interest in material things. And, um, and
• 2:14:13
  Speaker 1: I just think to myself, Oh my God, like in
• 2:14:16
  Speaker 1: my life, like when I was such a fucking nightmare, uh,
• 2:14:19
  Speaker 1: with drugs and sex and all the fucking crazy, you know,
• 2:14:23
  Speaker 1: just like, I did a lot of, I created a
• 2:14:28
  Speaker 1: lot of wreckage. You know, I think I was harmful
• 2:14:30
  Speaker 1: and hurtful. I've been better, but even like coming up,
• 2:14:34
  Speaker 1: I'm almost 18 years clean and sober. Even in those
• 2:14:38
  Speaker 1: 18 years, I've, you know, I've had a bad temper
• 2:14:41
  Speaker 1: of like, you know, whatever, like, you know, overly.
• 2:14:44
  Speaker 2: You're a human being, man.
• 2:14:45
  Speaker 1: Right. The trajectory of my life, I believe has, been much, like,
• 2:14:51
  Speaker 1: it's upward improvement, which I'm really grateful for. But when
• 2:14:55
  Speaker 1: I hear about these accounts, when people describing the life review,
• 2:14:59
  Speaker 1: I think, oh, my God, I got to.
• 2:15:01
  Speaker 2: You're worried about a comment section in heaven. That's literally
• 2:15:04
  Speaker 2: what you're sitting here tweaking out about.
• 2:15:06
  Speaker 1: A little bit. Yeah. Like, a little bit. Like, you know,
• 2:15:09
  Speaker 1: I view the remainder of my life as an opportunity,
• 2:15:11
  Speaker 1: like a big, gigantic opportunity to stack the good and,
• 2:15:16
  Speaker 1: you know, like, just be more.
• 2:15:19
  Speaker 2: Well, that's good.
• 2:15:20
  Speaker 3: So I'll just go around.
• 2:15:21
  Speaker 2: Look, anything that gives you motivation to be a good person.
• 2:15:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 2:15:24
  Speaker 2: That's great. If that's how you have to do it.
• 2:15:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I'll keep like a big fucking wad of cash
• 2:15:29
  Speaker 1: in my pocket so I can just give 20 bucks
• 2:15:32
  Speaker 1: to every Uber driver, every homeless person. Like, you know,
• 2:15:35
  Speaker 1: and I think like, yeah, maybe that's just selfishly. I
• 2:15:40
  Speaker 1: want to have a better life review.
• 2:15:44
  Speaker 2: Well, if selfishly wanting to have a better life review
• 2:15:47
  Speaker 2: makes you be a nicer person, that's worth it.
• 2:15:49
  Speaker 1: A hundred percent. Yeah, that's all. And I care about
• 2:15:51
  Speaker 1: that so much. Okay. Yeah.
• 2:15:54
  Speaker 2: So you're in your own head a lot, huh?
• 2:15:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's pretty gnarly.
• 2:15:57
  Speaker 2: Do you have anything else you do that, like, wears
• 2:15:59
  Speaker 2: you out? Do you do anything physical? Do you do, like,
• 2:16:01
  Speaker 2: hard workouts that, like, drain you of anxiety?
• 2:16:04
  Speaker 1: I do, you know, I do yoga every day for
• 2:16:08
  Speaker 1: 30 minutes.
• 2:16:08
  Speaker 2: Oh, that's good.
• 2:16:09
  Speaker 1: That's good. And I get the... Perfect push-ups. You ever
• 2:16:13
  Speaker 1: do those?
• 2:16:14
  Speaker 2: Sure.
• 2:16:14
  Speaker 1: I just got this killer strength machine at my house
• 2:16:18
  Speaker 1: in Tennessee that I haven't been to in fucking two months.
• 2:16:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah. For a lot of people, that's a relief from anxieties,
• 2:16:25
  Speaker 2: like hard workouts.
• 2:16:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 2:16:27
  Speaker 2: Because– Look, there's benefits to having regret because you course
• 2:16:33
  Speaker 2: correct and you become better. But after a while, you
• 2:16:35
  Speaker 2: can't be thinking about it all the fucking time because
• 2:16:38
  Speaker 2: then what you're doing, you're addicted to self-analysis.
• 2:16:41
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 2:16:41
  Speaker 2: And there's a lot of people out there addicted to self-analysis.
• 2:16:44
  Speaker 2: There's a lot of people that love going to therapy
• 2:16:46
  Speaker 2: so they can talk about themselves and talk about their feelings.
• 2:16:52
  Speaker 2: And some of that is really good for you and
• 2:16:54
  Speaker 2: some of that is very beneficial because you can develop
• 2:16:56
  Speaker 2: tools that can help you manage your life. But there's
• 2:16:58
  Speaker 2: also people that are just narcissists and just like going
• 2:17:02
  Speaker 2: to a place where it's all about them for an hour.
• 2:17:06
  Speaker 2: And this is a problem with self-analysis and living in
• 2:17:10
  Speaker 2: your own head. Because you've got to get outside of
• 2:17:13
  Speaker 2: your head. This is the benefit of psychedelics. They get
• 2:17:16
  Speaker 2: you outside your head. And living in that whole, what
• 2:17:21
  Speaker 2: does everybody think about me?
• 2:17:22
  Speaker 1: Let me check.
• 2:17:23
  Speaker 2: Oh, what do I do? Oh, am I a bad guy?
• 2:17:26
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 2:17:27
  Speaker 2: Not good for you, man. It's not just– it's not productive.
• 2:17:31
  Speaker 2: Like it doesn't allow you to do the things that
• 2:17:33
  Speaker 2: you want to do in life efficiently and effectively.
• 2:17:37
  Speaker 4: Whoa.
• 2:17:37
  Speaker 2: What is it saying to you? Serious listening in? Why
• 2:17:40
  Speaker 2: do you have that thing? Get rid of those fucking watches.
• 2:17:42
  Speaker 1: Those are ridiculous.
• 2:17:43
  Speaker 2: Watch should tell you the fucking time. That's it. It
• 2:17:46
  Speaker 2: should be reading emails too. You have a phone.
• 2:17:48
  Speaker 1: Stop. Stop with all this.
• 2:17:50
  Speaker 2: All this shit that you carry around with you. It's all.
• 2:17:52
  Speaker 1: Right. I feel like you're seeing right through me, Joe. Like,
• 2:17:55
  Speaker 1: I do. My head is very fucking mean to me.
• 2:18:00
  Speaker 2: Well, it also could be the kind of people you
• 2:18:03
  Speaker 2: surround yourself with. You know, if you're around other people
• 2:18:06
  Speaker 2: that think more along the lines of, look, You got
• 2:18:10
  Speaker 2: to have radical self-forgiveness for your past. You got to
• 2:18:13
  Speaker 2: let it go. You're not a loser from, you're not
• 2:18:15
  Speaker 2: the guy who got stuffed into a locker in high school.
• 2:18:17
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 2:18:17
  Speaker 2: You got to let that go. And it's hard for people.
• 2:18:19
  Speaker 2: There's people that were so bullied in high school that
• 2:18:22
  Speaker 2: they will go to high school as a fucking grown
• 2:18:24
  Speaker 2: man with children and they will get anxiety and panic
• 2:18:28
  Speaker 2: in that same high school because they still associate themselves
• 2:18:32
  Speaker 2: with who they were back then. And, you know, at
• 2:18:34
  Speaker 2: a certain point in time you have to, you have
• 2:18:36
  Speaker 2: to move on. You know, you have to let it go.
• 2:18:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 2:18:39
  Speaker 2: And You know, it's good to recognize your flaws and
• 2:18:44
  Speaker 2: want to improve upon them up to a point. And
• 2:18:47
  Speaker 2: then you've got to concentrate on what you're doing and
• 2:18:50
  Speaker 2: what you enjoy doing and just doing a good job
• 2:18:53
  Speaker 2: at everything that you do. And one of the things
• 2:18:54
  Speaker 2: that prevents you from doing a good job at everything
• 2:18:57
  Speaker 2: you do is constantly being in your own head.
• 2:18:59
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 2:18:59
  Speaker 2: It can get in the way.
• 2:19:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah. You know, I got this– I moved out to Tennessee.
• 2:19:06
  Speaker 1: I got this big property.
• 2:19:07
  Speaker 2: You got in Nashville?
• 2:19:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah. 45 minutes north of Nashville.
• 2:19:11
  Speaker 2: Okay, so you're out in the woods.
• 2:19:12
  Speaker 1: I'm out in the woods. Yeah, all of the fancy...
• 2:19:15
  Speaker 1: Do you.
• 2:19:15
  Speaker 2: Ever hear a yeehaw in the middle of the night
• 2:19:17
  Speaker 2: and get worried? Do you hear shotguns in the distance?
• 2:19:20
  Speaker 1: No, but I've got these great neighbors, man. You get lucky.
• 2:19:25
  Speaker 1: My neighbors are so awesome, man. I got the place
• 2:19:28
  Speaker 1: in September 2023. How did you choose that area? You
• 2:19:30
  Speaker 1: know what it was?
• 2:19:31
  Speaker 2: I got the.
• 2:19:39
  Speaker 1: I started hearing about people getting notifications from their insurance
• 2:19:43
  Speaker 1: companies in L.A. that their homeowner's policy wouldn't be renewed
• 2:19:48
  Speaker 1: because of the risk of fires. And I was like, dude,
• 2:19:52
  Speaker 1: I live in the Hollywood Hills. It's just a fucking
• 2:19:54
  Speaker 1: exercise in waiting for my house to burn down. I've
• 2:19:57
  Speaker 1: got this fucking house that's uninsurable. And I was like, man,
• 2:20:02
  Speaker 1: I don't want to be waiting for my house to
• 2:20:04
  Speaker 1: burn down. And I wanted to have a bunch of
• 2:20:06
  Speaker 1: land so I can open up an animal sanctuary. You know,
• 2:20:09
  Speaker 1: that's my deal.
• 2:20:09
  Speaker 2: That's cool.
• 2:20:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So I knew that I wanted to, to get
• 2:20:14
  Speaker 1: a place outside of California. And, um, who was, it was,
• 2:20:20
  Speaker 1: it was supposed to be Corey Sanhagen against Islam in Nashville, Tennessee.
• 2:20:25
  Speaker 1: And I was like, Oh my fuck.
• 2:20:27
  Speaker 2: It ended up in different weight classes.
• 2:20:29
  Speaker 1: Oh, okay. Wait, no, no, no, no. Okay. Yeah. Not Islam. Umar. Umar. Yeah. Umar. Yeah. Yeah.
• 2:20:36
  Speaker 1: Thank you. Um, Yeah, good catch. It was supposed to
• 2:20:40
  Speaker 1: be Umar. I was like, oh, my God, I got
• 2:20:42
  Speaker 1: to be there. Fucking so excited. It ended up being
• 2:20:45
  Speaker 1: Corey Sanhagen against Rob Font because Umar backed out somehow
• 2:20:49
  Speaker 1: or other.
• 2:20:50
  Speaker 2: Probably got injured.
• 2:20:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.
• 2:20:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 2:20:52
  Speaker 1: So I'm like, all right, we're fucking going out to–
• 2:20:55
  Speaker 1: I decided that I'm going to go look at properties
• 2:20:59
  Speaker 1: in Tennessee just for a weekend. And the only motivation
• 2:21:05
  Speaker 1: was to go for the fight.
• 2:21:07
  Speaker 4: Oh.
• 2:21:07
  Speaker 1: Because I fucking love the UFC, man.
• 2:21:09
  Speaker 2: Oh, that's awesome.
• 2:21:10
  Speaker 1: I love the UFC. So I went out there.
• 2:21:11
  Speaker 2: Good one this weekend coming out.
• 2:21:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, right, the BMF.
• 2:21:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that should be exciting. Max Holloway versus Charles Oliveira.
• 2:21:19
  Speaker 2: That is a great fight.
• 2:21:20
  Speaker 1: And do the whole fucking card.
• 2:21:22
  Speaker 2: Uh-huh.
• 2:21:23
  Speaker 1: And all the way down the prelims. Like, get the
• 2:21:26
  Speaker 1: fuck out of here. Some of the names on the prelims.
• 2:21:28
  Speaker 2: Super solid card.
• 2:21:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so I looked at properties. We went down, like,
• 2:21:32
  Speaker 1: an all-around. And when I got to this one, 44 acres.
• 2:21:36
  Speaker 1: house with the fucking, uh, additional dwelling unit, like apartment
• 2:21:41
  Speaker 1: on the garage, like, and this trail that goes through
• 2:21:45
  Speaker 1: the woods in a perfect one mile loop. They drove
• 2:21:47
  Speaker 1: us around that trail. I was like, I got it.
• 2:21:49
  Speaker 2: Oh, that's awesome.
• 2:21:50
  Speaker 1: I'm like this place, like they can get me for whatever,
• 2:21:54
  Speaker 1: cause I have to have it, you know, like, Like,
• 2:21:56
  Speaker 1: they're just gonna.
• 2:21:58
  Speaker 2: Well, for a guy like you, like, that's probably a
• 2:22:00
  Speaker 2: great thing to have, too, is just get some peace.
• 2:22:02
  Speaker 1: Oh, dude. When I got out there, I was like, oh,
• 2:22:05
  Speaker 1: my God, I'm not, like, chewing on my lip. I'm not... Like,
• 2:22:09
  Speaker 1: I can breathe. Now the problem is that I'm not
• 2:22:11
  Speaker 1: there very much because I'm always fucking touring and working
• 2:22:14
  Speaker 1: and chasing and grinding.
• 2:22:16
  Speaker 2: Listen, that's... The touring and working is a gift, you know?
• 2:22:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 2:22:19
  Speaker 2: You have the ability to do that. It's way better
• 2:22:21
  Speaker 2: than wishing you could be touring and working.
• 2:22:23
  Speaker 1: Right. I mean, that's how it was when... When I
• 2:22:26
  Speaker 1: started doing comedy, so I got sober in 2008, right?
• 2:22:32
  Speaker 1: Up to that point, I was 33. And up to
• 2:22:36
  Speaker 1: that point, I never thought I was going to fucking
• 2:22:38
  Speaker 1: make it to 30, you know? I was just like.
• 2:22:41
  Speaker 2: You were chaos.
• 2:22:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I was like literally just never even imagined. Like
• 2:22:45
  Speaker 1: I wasn't worried about saving money. I wasn't worried about...
• 2:22:48
  Speaker 1: Like I was just like, ah, I'm going to be dead. Right.
• 2:22:50
  Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden I got clean and sober.
• 2:22:52
  Speaker 1: And it's like.
• 2:22:56
  Speaker 1: Wow, now I'm ceasing to like actively kill myself. I'm
• 2:23:01
  Speaker 1: starting to take care of myself. Maybe I'm going to
• 2:23:03
  Speaker 1: be alive for decades to come. And like, holy shit,
• 2:23:08
  Speaker 1: like 2008, like whatever I had saved at that time
• 2:23:12
  Speaker 1: was just, you know, like, and I'm like, how am
• 2:23:15
  Speaker 1: I going to fucking eat? If I'm going to be alive,
• 2:23:18
  Speaker 1: I'm only like less than halfway through my life. I
• 2:23:21
  Speaker 1: burned every bridge in my career. And, you know, they're
• 2:23:23
  Speaker 1: telling me that if I want to, Like, be, you know,
• 2:23:27
  Speaker 1: clean and sober and have any kind of a good life.
• 2:23:30
  Speaker 1: I've got to deflate my ego. I've got to practice
• 2:23:32
  Speaker 1: spiritual principles. How the fuck am I supposed to be Steve-O?
• 2:23:37
  Speaker 1: Advocate with a deflated ego and on a spiritual path.
• 2:23:40
  Speaker 1: I didn't know if I could continue to have any
• 2:23:42
  Speaker 1: kind of a career as I knew it. So now
• 2:23:45
  Speaker 1: I'm like, how am I going to eat? You know, like,
• 2:23:48
  Speaker 1: my savings just got blasted. And I started doing comedy.
• 2:23:52
  Speaker 1: Going to, like, the Laugh Factory, like, they'd give you
• 2:23:55
  Speaker 1: like 20 bucks, you know, like sign here and they'd
• 2:23:57
  Speaker 1: be like 20 bucks. And then like when the Jackass
• 2:24:02
  Speaker 1: 3D came out, I went on the Howard Stern show
• 2:24:04
  Speaker 1: and I'm like, Howard, I've been in the comedy club
• 2:24:06
  Speaker 1: every night. I'm having a blast. And just by saying
• 2:24:09
  Speaker 1: that on Howard Stern, my lawyer called me up like
• 2:24:12
  Speaker 1: in the next week or something. He says, I've got
• 2:24:15
  Speaker 1: comedy clubs all over the country calling, trying to book you. Like,
• 2:24:18
  Speaker 1: what's this about? And they're offering like all this money.
• 2:24:21
  Speaker 1: I'm like, wait, you can make, what you can make
• 2:24:23
  Speaker 1: that much money like going to a fucking comedy club
• 2:24:26
  Speaker 1: for a weekend like holy shit I'm like I gotta
• 2:24:29
  Speaker 1: fucking figure out how I'm gonna eat for the next
• 2:24:31
  Speaker 1: you know 50 years maybe so I just fucking started
• 2:24:36
  Speaker 1: grinding dude.
• 2:24:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah we've talked about this yeah it's um you know
• 2:24:40
  Speaker 2: I think that anybody who wants to do comedy should
• 2:24:42
  Speaker 2: do comedy and there's a weird thing that happens with
• 2:24:44
  Speaker 2: comedy where it's like there's a lot of gatekeepers like
• 2:24:47
  Speaker 2: oh what is he doing doing comedy right which I
• 2:24:50
  Speaker 2: think is gross But, yeah, I mean, I'm glad you
• 2:24:53
  Speaker 2: found something else. But it's just being yourself, you know.
• 2:24:56
  Speaker 2: For sure. You could still be on a spiritual path
• 2:24:59
  Speaker 2: and still do anything.
• 2:25:00
  Speaker 1: Oh, 100%.
• 2:25:00
  Speaker 3: I figured that out.
• 2:25:01
  Speaker 1: I figured that out completely. And I think that the
• 2:25:04
  Speaker 1: point being that I, like, in 2011, like, Jesus, man. Like,
• 2:25:10
  Speaker 1: I had to have been, you know, 52 weeks of
• 2:25:14
  Speaker 1: the year. Like, no way that I wasn't, like. full-on
• 2:25:18
  Speaker 1: fucking engagement for like 45 weeks of that year you
• 2:25:22
  Speaker 1: know that's awesome yeah and and just by doing it
• 2:25:25
  Speaker 1: that much like the repetition it's like oh okay now
• 2:25:28
  Speaker 1: like i'm developing a.
• 2:25:29
  Speaker 2: Craft yeah if you care about it if you care
• 2:25:32
  Speaker 2: about it and you get into it you get better
• 2:25:34
  Speaker 2: at it dude i care it's harder for a guy
• 2:25:36
  Speaker 2: like you that's already famous to start out because you
• 2:25:39
  Speaker 2: know some people they're already famous like i went on
• 2:25:42
  Speaker 2: the road with charlie murphy when he was doing that
• 2:25:44
  Speaker 2: And it was like the ballsiest thing ever. Like Charlie
• 2:25:47
  Speaker 2: was famous for being on The Chappelle Show and then
• 2:25:50
  Speaker 2: starting out doing comedy. When I went on the road
• 2:25:53
  Speaker 2: with him, I think he'd only been doing comedy like
• 2:25:55
  Speaker 2: two years at the time. I'm like, man, this is
• 2:25:57
  Speaker 2: such a ballsy thing to do. Because there's so many
• 2:26:01
  Speaker 2: expectations of you. A, you're Eddie Murphy's brother, which is nuts.
• 2:26:06
  Speaker 2: So you're a brother, one of the greatest of all time.
• 2:26:08
  Speaker 2: And then on top of that, you're already famous from
• 2:26:10
  Speaker 2: one of the funniest comedy shows of all time. And
• 2:26:13
  Speaker 2: you're a beginner.
• 2:26:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 2:26:15
  Speaker 2: Which is wild, you know?
• 2:26:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah. It's a blessing and a curse. Mm-hmm. Because you
• 2:26:20
  Speaker 1: can sell tickets because people know they want to see you.
• 2:26:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah. But you're a— A lot of guys, they get
• 2:26:25
  Speaker 2: together with other people that can help them, you know,
• 2:26:27
  Speaker 2: formulate an act, maybe help them write, help them piece together.
• 2:26:31
  Speaker 2: Maybe if they're not even writing for you, at least
• 2:26:33
  Speaker 2: they can help you consolidate your thoughts and, you know— Right.
• 2:26:36
  Speaker 2: Put together some— like, if you're smart, that's the way to
• 2:26:39
  Speaker 2: do it. Like, hire some people that can help you.
• 2:26:41
  Speaker 1: I've never been able to have people write for me.
• 2:26:43
  Speaker 2: That it's not necessary. You don't have to, but it's
• 2:26:46
  Speaker 2: a good idea for, like, you're a little bit different
• 2:26:48
  Speaker 2: than a traditional stand-up comic, though. You have stand-up comedy,
• 2:26:52
  Speaker 2: but you also do multimedia stuff and stunts and silly things.
• 2:26:56
  Speaker 2: For people that just, like, Charlie was just doing comedy.
• 2:27:00
  Speaker 1: Right. I started out doing that. I would do, like,
• 2:27:04
  Speaker 1: a set of stand-up, and then I would have, like,
• 2:27:06
  Speaker 1: a set of sort of repeatable stunts and tricks at
• 2:27:09
  Speaker 1: the end.
• 2:27:09
  Speaker 2: Right, so this is not like laugh factor when you're
• 2:27:12
  Speaker 2: one of the people on the lineup.
• 2:27:13
  Speaker 1: Right, right, right.
• 2:27:14
  Speaker 2: This is when you're doing your own shows. Yeah.
• 2:27:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's how the tour began.
• 2:27:17
  Speaker 2: Oh, that's awesome, man.
• 2:27:19
  Speaker 1: But yeah, dude, I'm just fucking stoked.
• 2:27:21
  Speaker 2: You're in a good place. You just got to get
• 2:27:23
  Speaker 2: out of your own head.
• 2:27:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, my head terrorizes me a lot.
• 2:27:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you got to get out of your own head
• 2:27:27
  Speaker 2: and probably surround yourself more with people that also are
• 2:27:30
  Speaker 2: not in their own head.
• 2:27:31
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 2:27:31
  Speaker 2: You know, because that shit's contagious. Just like being a
• 2:27:34
  Speaker 2: loser is contagious. Like if you're around people that are losers,
• 2:27:37
  Speaker 2: like that shit can rub off on you.
• 2:27:39
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 2:27:39
  Speaker 2: If you're around people that sabotage their life all the time,
• 2:27:42
  Speaker 2: you're with them, like, then you're wrapped up in their
• 2:27:44
  Speaker 2: shit and you're... Not only are you not progressing, you're
• 2:27:46
  Speaker 2: regressing because you're, like, constantly with this guy who's, like,
• 2:27:50
  Speaker 2: fucking his life up all the time.
• 2:27:52
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 2:27:52
  Speaker 2: Real, you know... Some people have to cut ties.
• 2:27:55
  Speaker 4: Just.
• 2:27:55
  Speaker 2: Try to surround yourself with people from your yoga class.
• 2:27:59
  Speaker 2: Go to a solid yoga class and find solid people.
• 2:28:03
  Speaker 2: Be the type of person that solid people want to
• 2:28:09
  Speaker 2: be around, but also find those people, too.
• 2:28:12
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 2:28:13
  Speaker 2: And both of those things will benefit you. Because if
• 2:28:15
  Speaker 2: you're in your own head and you're around other people
• 2:28:17
  Speaker 2: that are worried about their career, too, and they're in
• 2:28:19
  Speaker 2: their own head and they're freaking out about their comments
• 2:28:22
  Speaker 2: and you're freaking out about your comments, like, jeez.
• 2:28:25
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 2:28:25
  Speaker 2: Stop. This is not good for anybody.
• 2:28:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. And it's helpful, too, to look at the facts.
• 2:28:34
  Speaker 1: You know, like, whatever I've been through, whatever, like... But.
• 2:28:38
  Speaker 2: Even that is thinking about yourself too much. Think about
• 2:28:40
  Speaker 2: your stuff. Think about what you're doing. Don't think about, like,
• 2:28:44
  Speaker 2: I've accomplished so much, and this is why I don't
• 2:28:46
  Speaker 2: have to worry. Like, eh. That don't... You don't get any...
• 2:28:49
  Speaker 2: There's no gas in that. I don't know that that's what.
• 2:28:52
  Speaker 1: I meant, but, like, What I've been going through over
• 2:28:55
  Speaker 1: the last few weeks I was telling you about didn't
• 2:28:57
  Speaker 1: change the fact that our jackass movies, fucking full bore,
• 2:29:02
  Speaker 1: full force.
• 2:29:02
  Speaker 2: There you go. It doesn't change the fact you have
• 2:29:04
  Speaker 2: a dick on your forehead. It doesn't change that.
• 2:29:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like nobody who matters to me has voiced any
• 2:29:13
  Speaker 1: concern about any of it.
• 2:29:14
  Speaker 2: That's all that matters then. It's the people that are
• 2:29:17
  Speaker 2: close to you that really matter. It's just like you're
• 2:29:19
  Speaker 2: just a little too in your own head, bro. I
• 2:29:21
  Speaker 2: hope this helped.
• 2:29:22
  Speaker 1: You know, I really fucking did.
• 2:29:25
  Speaker 2: You're a good dude, man. You shouldn't be worried.
• 2:29:28
  Speaker 1: I care. I care a lot.
• 2:29:29
  Speaker 2: I know you do. But the reason why you care
• 2:29:33
  Speaker 2: is because you're a good dude. But your brain can
• 2:29:37
  Speaker 2: hijack you. You know, your thoughts can run away with you.
• 2:29:42
  Speaker 2: I mean, we've all had it happen before.
• 2:29:44
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 2:29:44
  Speaker 2: You get a thought, it runs away with you, and
• 2:29:46
  Speaker 2: then you've got to bring it back. But you've got
• 2:29:47
  Speaker 2: to get better at corralling that bitch. You know, it's
• 2:29:50
  Speaker 2: like being a dog trainer. You can't have your dog
• 2:29:52
  Speaker 2: shitting all over your house and chewing up your furniture.
• 2:29:54
  Speaker 2: You're like, hey, hey, stop. It doesn't mean you don't
• 2:29:58
  Speaker 2: love your dog. It's like you don't want him shitting
• 2:30:00
  Speaker 2: on your couch. Tell him not to do that. Be
• 2:30:03
  Speaker 2: a good dog trainer. Be a good Stevo trainer. Don't
• 2:30:06
  Speaker 2: let Stevo's brain run away from him and piss on
• 2:30:09
  Speaker 2: the TV. That's crazy. You know what I mean? Same
• 2:30:13
  Speaker 2: kind of thing. You got to train yourself.
• 2:30:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I think that that's perfectly fair, man. And I'm
• 2:30:19
  Speaker 1: super grateful for you, brother.
• 2:30:22
  Speaker 2: I'm grateful for you, too. Like I said, I just
• 2:30:24
  Speaker 2: hate seeing you in your own head because you're a
• 2:30:25
  Speaker 2: great guy. You're fun to be around. You're always very
• 2:30:27
  Speaker 2: thoughtful and very friendly. And don't worry about it, man.
• 2:30:31
  Speaker 2: It's going to be all right.
• 2:30:32
  Speaker 1: Well, thank you, dude.
• 2:30:32
  Speaker 2: And then you're going to come back as a butterfly
• 2:30:34
  Speaker 2: or some shit.
• 2:30:37
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 2:30:38
  Speaker 2: Maybe you'll come back as a World War II pilot.
• 2:30:39
  Speaker 2: Maybe you'll go back in time. That would be wild.
• 2:30:42
  Speaker 2: You have memories of the future.
• 2:30:43
  Speaker 1: I haven't heard about that.
• 2:30:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's because reincarnation, if time's not linear— If time
• 2:30:50
  Speaker 2: exists all at once, like, maybe reincarnation is not linear either.
• 2:30:54
  Speaker 2: Maybe there's people that die and then they have messages
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  Speaker 2: from the future. You know? I mean, that's... Imagine you're
• 2:31:00
  Speaker 2: in the trenches of World War I. You're like, are
• 2:31:02
  Speaker 2: you fucking kidding me? I used to have an iPhone.
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  Speaker 2: I had a watch that was... My dad was calling
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  Speaker 2: me on it.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
• 2:31:08
  Speaker 2: This is so stupid. Now I'm worried about getting eaten
• 2:31:09
  Speaker 2: by wolves in this fucking trench.
• 2:31:12
  Speaker 1: Right. I mean, the idea of quantum physics, quantum mechanics... Entanglement. Yeah.
• 2:31:18
  Speaker 2: All.
• 2:31:19
  Speaker 1: All possible realities all exist all in one moment.
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  Speaker 2: Allegedly. I don't understand it. I've tried.
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  Speaker 1: Right. How's Marshall?
• 2:31:31
  Speaker 2: He's great. He's great.
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  Speaker 1: How old is Marshall now?
• 2:31:33
  Speaker 2: He's nine.
• 2:31:34
  Speaker 1: Wow.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. It makes me sad that I worry that he's
• 2:31:37
  Speaker 2: only going to live for a few more years.
• 2:31:39
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 2:31:39
  Speaker 2: That's what's spooky. Goldens, when they eat well and they're
• 2:31:43
  Speaker 2: well fed, they could live like 15, 16 years. I
• 2:31:46
  Speaker 2: just got to take care of them. It's just like
• 2:31:49
  Speaker 2: thinking about him not being around. It's really hard. We
• 2:31:53
  Speaker 2: were playing today. I take him in the yard, throw
• 2:31:55
  Speaker 2: the ball with him, and we're hanging out and cuddling.
• 2:31:57
  Speaker 2: I just can't imagine a life where that dog's not around.
• 2:32:02
  Speaker 2: He's just a big love sponge. He loves everybody. Everybody
• 2:32:07
  Speaker 2: that comes over the house, the first thing he does,
• 2:32:08
  Speaker 2: he runs up to you, he wags his tail, he
• 2:32:10
  Speaker 2: rubs up against you, and then he lies down because
• 2:32:13
  Speaker 2: he knows you want to pet his belly. He's like,
• 2:32:15
  Speaker 2: come on. You know you want to pet me. He's
• 2:32:18
  Speaker 2: just so used to being touched by everybody.
• 2:32:20
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 2:32:21
  Speaker 2: That's his existence is just love.
• 2:32:23
  Speaker 1: I was in Peru in 2017 with Chuck Liddell. We
• 2:32:29
  Speaker 1: were doing this.
• 2:32:30
  Speaker 2: Where you found that dog?
• 2:32:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I still have Wendy.
• 2:32:35
  Speaker 2: That's awesome.
• 2:32:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 2:32:36
  Speaker 2: That's awesome.
• 2:32:36
  Speaker 1: She's at this point like 11. Wow. Wow. And she's
• 2:32:41
  Speaker 1: slowing down.
• 2:32:42
  Speaker 2: It's like dogs, it's so sad. They don't live long enough.
• 2:32:46
  Speaker 1: I know. You know? But, dude, since Wendy's now retired,
• 2:32:51
  Speaker 1: living on my ranch in Tennessee.
• 2:32:52
  Speaker 2: Well, that's cool.
• 2:32:53
  Speaker 1: And she has become the gnarliest country girl. Like, she'll
• 2:32:58
  Speaker 1: just go out on the property and come back with, like,
• 2:33:02
  Speaker 1: a fucking gnarly deer leg.
• 2:33:03
  Speaker 2: That she found in the woods.
• 2:33:06
  Speaker 1: And she just sits there. That's normal.
• 2:33:07
  Speaker 2: That's normal. That's dog behavior.
• 2:33:09
  Speaker 1: And I've got this ranch cat that I'm pretty sure, like,
• 2:33:13
  Speaker 1: he goes out there and, like, hunts squirrels or whatever.
• 2:33:16
  Speaker 2: He probably kills everything. He probably kills a lot of birds.
• 2:33:18
  Speaker 1: And then he brings them to Wendy. Because I was
• 2:33:20
  Speaker 1: trying to figure out, why is Wendy getting so fucking fat? I'm, like,
• 2:33:24
  Speaker 1: telling my ranch hand, I'm, like, dude, we've got to, like,
• 2:33:26
  Speaker 1: not feed Wendy so much. She's, like, kind of fucking
• 2:33:28
  Speaker 1: getting fat. So he's, like, dude, I've been, like, feeding
• 2:33:31
  Speaker 1: her less, but she just seems to still be getting
• 2:33:33
  Speaker 1: fucking fat. And we find her, like, She cruises up
• 2:33:36
  Speaker 1: with just some big-ass rodent.
• 2:33:38
  Speaker 2: Then she's going to kiss you with rat-asshole breaths.
• 2:33:44
  Speaker 1: Just crunching it. I watched her house a whole fucking
• 2:33:48
  Speaker 1: squirrel to the face and just swallow the whole fucking thing.
• 2:33:51
  Speaker 1: And I know that her old fat ass wasn't fast
• 2:33:57
  Speaker 1: enough to catch a squirrel. The only way is it's
• 2:33:59
  Speaker 1: got to be the cat's killing it and giving it
• 2:34:01
  Speaker 1: to her.
• 2:34:01
  Speaker 2: So the cat killed the squirrel and it's like, hey, friend.
• 2:34:03
  Speaker 2: I got something for you because cats just want to kill.
• 2:34:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 2:34:06
  Speaker 2: They kill so much, man.
• 2:34:08
  Speaker 1: Wild.
• 2:34:08
  Speaker 2: If you let a cat go wild, you basically, you
• 2:34:11
  Speaker 2: want to do harm, let a cat go loose. That'll
• 2:34:14
  Speaker 2: kill thousands and thousands of things. I saw a cat
• 2:34:17
  Speaker 2: the other day on a ranch. It was really wild.
• 2:34:20
  Speaker 2: I turned a corner and I saw it right as
• 2:34:23
  Speaker 2: this cat pounced. So this cat was in the grass
• 2:34:27
  Speaker 2: and it was doing that thing where their back goes
• 2:34:29
  Speaker 2: up and their butt starts wiggling and just flew through
• 2:34:31
  Speaker 2: the air and landed. I'm like, How happy is this
• 2:34:34
  Speaker 2: fucking cat living out here? Like, just being able to
• 2:34:37
  Speaker 2: jack all these poor little unsuspecting animals all day long.
• 2:34:41
  Speaker 2: That's what they want to do, man.
• 2:34:43
  Speaker 1: The guy I bought the property from, he said, you
• 2:34:46
  Speaker 1: will never see a fucking mouse, a fucking rat. He's like,
• 2:34:49
  Speaker 1: this cat, because we inherited the cat Rocky.
• 2:34:51
  Speaker 2: Oh, that's cool.
• 2:34:52
  Speaker 1: He's like, this cat takes his job fucking seriously.
• 2:34:55
  Speaker 2: That's way better than having mice around, that's for sure.
• 2:34:58
  Speaker 2: But they are mass murderers.
• 2:35:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 2:35:01
  Speaker 2: Do you know that, like, House cats, wild house cats,
• 2:35:04
  Speaker 2: feral cats kill billions of mammals every year just in America. Billions.
• 2:35:10
  Speaker 1: Feral house cats.
• 2:35:12
  Speaker 2: Wild cats.
• 2:35:12
  Speaker 1: Right, right, right, right.
• 2:35:13
  Speaker 2: Cats that get left outside.
• 2:35:15
  Speaker 1: Regular old cats.
• 2:35:16
  Speaker 2: Regular cats. Not like cougars. And they kill billions of—
• 2:35:19
  Speaker 2: Billions of birds and mammals.
• 2:35:21
  Speaker 1: B-I.
• 2:35:22
  Speaker 2: Billions. Billions.
• 2:35:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 2:35:24
  Speaker 2: They are so good at it. They love to do it.
• 2:35:27
  Speaker 2: I used to have this like fluffy, she was like,
• 2:35:30
  Speaker 2: I forget what they're called, the kind of cat she was,
• 2:35:32
  Speaker 2: but she was just a ball fluff. Like she would
• 2:35:34
  Speaker 2: just purr when you pet her and like, that little
• 2:35:37
  Speaker 2: bitch was a murderer. They let her outside and she'd
• 2:35:40
  Speaker 2: have a bird. I'm like, this is crazy. She'd jump
• 2:35:42
  Speaker 2: up and snag a bird out of the air. I'm like,
• 2:35:45
  Speaker 2: and she would sit by the window and she'd see
• 2:35:48
  Speaker 2: a squirrel outside and her teeth would start chattering. Like
• 2:35:53
  Speaker 2: she just couldn't wait to bite it.
• 2:35:54
  Speaker 1: Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.
• 2:35:56
  Speaker 2: They make these weird noises staring at birds and squirrels. Like,
• 2:36:00
  Speaker 2: it's just in them, man.
• 2:36:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 2:36:02
  Speaker 2: They're little killing machines.
• 2:36:04
  Speaker 1: Yep. I got a good fucking, I'm going to have
• 2:36:09
  Speaker 1: so many fucking animals.
• 2:36:10
  Speaker 2: That's awesome.
• 2:36:10
  Speaker 1: At this point, it's pigs and goats and cats and dogs.
• 2:36:13
  Speaker 2: That's dope, dude. That sounds like a great life. And
• 2:36:16
  Speaker 2: a great balance to the chaos that you had when
• 2:36:18
  Speaker 2: you were younger. And also a great balance to touring, right?
• 2:36:21
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 2:36:22
  Speaker 2: You're touring in all these cities. You come back home.
• 2:36:24
  Speaker 1: Tweet, tweet, tweet, tweet.
• 2:36:25
  Speaker 2: Oh.
• 2:36:26
  Speaker 1: Oh, dude, I love it so much, man. And it's
• 2:36:30
  Speaker 1: all set up. It's an official 501c3 nonprofit animal sanctuary.
• 2:36:35
  Speaker 2: Oh, so you can take in animals. Like if someone
• 2:36:37
  Speaker 2: has a dog that's been abandoned or a goat that
• 2:36:40
  Speaker 2: they can't take care of anymore. Oh, that's cool.
• 2:36:43
  Speaker 1: Yep. That sounds really cool, man. It's called the Radical Ranch.
• 2:36:47
  Speaker 2: Ah.
• 2:36:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And the website's radicalranch.org.
• 2:36:51
  Speaker 3: Oh, you have a website. Just went live like last month.
• 2:36:54
  Speaker 1: Oh, cool. Like a month ago. In January it went live. So, yeah,
• 2:37:00
  Speaker 1: like people can fucking donate or whatever and see all
• 2:37:02
  Speaker 1: the animals on there. It's pretty rad.
• 2:37:04
  Speaker 2: That's dope, brother. There it is.
• 2:37:07
  Speaker 1: There it is.
• 2:37:08
  Speaker 2: Radical Ranch.
• 2:37:08
  Speaker 1: There's Wendy.
• 2:37:09
  Speaker 2: Aw, look at all those little animals having a good time.
• 2:37:12
  Speaker 1: Believe it or not, that's Photoshop. Is it? You're not
• 2:37:16
  Speaker 1: getting all those animals in one.
• 2:37:17
  Speaker 2: That's Photoshop?
• 2:37:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 2:37:19
  Speaker 2: Oh, okay. That's deceptive. How dare you? I thought you
• 2:37:23
  Speaker 2: were having a party, just like a Disney movie.
• 2:37:25
  Speaker 1: I wanted to have all the animals in one shot.
• 2:37:27
  Speaker 1: That's actually.
• 2:37:30
  Speaker 2: sense. Otherwise, I was like, why didn't that dog chase
• 2:37:32
  Speaker 2: those goats? Why is the goat dealing with the dog
• 2:37:34
  Speaker 2: being right there?
• 2:37:35
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 2:37:35
  Speaker 2: All right, brother. I appreciate you very much.
• 2:37:38
  Speaker 1: Dude, likewise, man.
• 2:37:39
  Speaker 2: It's always good to talk to you.
• 2:37:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I try to be pretty sparing if I'm going
• 2:37:45
  Speaker 1: to hit you up. I try to make sure that it...
• 2:37:48
  Speaker 1: Don't worry about it, man.
• 2:37:50
  Speaker 2: Just be you. Don't worry about it.
• 2:37:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 2:37:51
  Speaker 1: Well, dude.
• 2:37:52
  Speaker 2: It's all going to be fine.
• 2:37:53
  Speaker 1: I appreciate you so much.
• 2:37:54
  Speaker 2: I appreciate you too, brother.
• 2:37:55
  Speaker 1: This was fucking important for me.
• 2:37:57
  Speaker 2: My pleasure. All right. Bye, everybody.